I have loved tracking the development of the Dené-Yeniseian language family hypothesis over the years. I remember first coming across it about a decade or more ago, holding my reservations after reading some of the academic opinions on the family. Since then, it seems the hypothesis has garnered even more support, which is great to see. With the knowledge that Ket is also critically endangered, however, it also makes the loss of the language that much greater.
Ket is a fascinating and unique language, and one of unfortunately many on the verge of extinction. Thank you for making this video to spread awareness.
I had the opportunity to take a few classes under Edward Vajda some time ago. He is a uniquely fun and warm man, a great teacher, and is doing some amazing work. I strive to be someone like him.
That's awesome! I emailed him with some questions about this language a while back and thought about the same as you! I’d love to go to grad school at WWU and meet him myself!
I've watched a lot of his lectures here on TH-cam, and I've not seen many professors who seem so passionate about their subjects, I'd love to have him as one of mine!
I admit I like reading about languages and while I do like reading about their structure, words and how they work, I don't understand much without many examples, I prefer and understand more if reading about their history and relations with others Aside from the Dene-Yeniseian connection with Native Americans I think the Yeniseian languages are also cool because some think their speakers were the ruling elite of the Xiongnu (ancestors of the Huns, lived around Mongolia and Siberia in ~ 200 bC) Wikipedia says the Turco-Mongol Sky Deity called "Tengri" might come from Proto-Yeniseian *tɨŋgɨr- "high" one of the "Northern Barbarians" in early Imperial China were called the Jie which might have come from "Kiat" which... would become the Ket I've read there is a proposal (Karasuk) to connect Yeniseian with the Burushaski isolate of Kashmir but it seems to not be supported and there is no work with it alongside with Dene-Yeniseian Thanks for the video, I'll sub and check out the rest of the channel too!
The Brofessor (www.youtube.com/@TheBrofessor) has done a few introductory videos on the language. Also, I plan on making more Ket videos in the future!
@@Kinotaurus I was actually thinking of that lol. But from what I know, it’s hard to get to where the Kets live. And since there’s no accommodation nearby, it makes it a lot harder. But when I’m in the financial position to actually make that happen I would love to try!
How do you define language extinction? One definition says that a language becomes extinct when its last native speaker dies. But if there's only 1 native speaker left, what can they speak to? Or what if a non-native speaker learns the language then teaches it to the descendants of dead native speakers (as happened with Manx)? Could Ket be revived given that it is still spoken?
That’s an interesting idea. I do think Ket could be revived but the possibility is very low. The number of ethnic Kets is only around 1,100 according to Wikipedia. Given this and the sad fact that most of the Ket speaking villages are heavily reliant on Russian Vodka (which keeps the populace in a drunken stupor, Dr. Vajda was almost shot by an alcoholic while recording the language in the village of Kellogg) the possibility for a language revival is almost impossible. However, I would love to see this comment proved wrong in the future Edit: Globalization is also significant in hindering the survival and growth of Ket.
This is my source: unacademy.com/content/ssc/study-material/english/word-roots/#:~:text=In%20the%20English%20language%2C%20there,with%20the%20suffixes%20and%20prefixes. I think you may be confusing root words with morphemes, which are the smallest unit of meaning in a language. I don’t have an exact figure of how many morphemes English has on hand but I am sure it is very high. Thanks for your comment!
@@LeafNye No, I'm talking about root words. The article you linked seems to be AI-generated and unreliable. On Wikipedia you can find thousands of roots strewn throughout lists: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_medical_roots,_suffixes_and_prefixes en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Greek_and_Latin_roots_in_English/A%E2%80%93G en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Germanic_and_Latinate_equivalents_in_English
@@LeafNyeI'm having trouble finding an independent corroborating source, a methodology, or even a complete list of the 120 roots. Your source says that 120 roots "have been identified." By whom and how?
That article is not an academic source; it's a piece of content marketing for a test-prep service. It has multiple grammar and capitalization errors, and cites "self-created" as its only source! This concept of "root words" (or "Root words"--the writers can't decide whether to capitalize this invention of theirs) is not a thing, except in this article. Maybe they mean "word roots"--in which case, the number is wayyyy over 120.
Ainu itak an-i 'Ket' itak rehe wa 'Kot' itak Chu-Kot Chuk-chi kor-yak ya-k ut = Sakha Sakha-lin si-khot -e-Alin mountain koryak kerek re-he an-ak-ne a-ru-pak-þe an ya an-te oya pumpo- kol Asin itak yugh ugric yug-khir River mames Bit-yug river Tributary Don! , ket-kheta river krasno-yar-sk-kray Kot-uy Khatanga river what is your tribe name ? we are the people live on the river ket? Tunguska River krasno yarsk Tungus peoples Amur region ! Kat-anga khat-anga river far apart Angara
The presentation is too complex for none native English learners English is not the only language photos and boxes and no real words speaks too fast Vadja was better
0:05 The only language family spreading between the old world and the new? Excluding families brought over by more recent immigrants obviously, Aren't there still some people in far eastern Siberia who speak a language related to Inuktitut and Yupʼik?
Great job! There is a channel called the Brofessor that teaches basic Ket language in vocabulary
www.youtube.com/@TheBrofessor if anyone is interested
Thank you for the pinned comment
Also tell them the videos are far down
Was gonna say same thing. I love it
@@trottyong glad there are other people who also know this
Its amazing to think that the Dene Yeniseian family exists simultaneously in Siberia, Oregon, and Mexico
Couldnt’ve said it better myself
"Native" Americans came from Siberia
@@pc_suffering6941 yeah but 30k years ago
@@pc_suffering6941 "Native" Eurasians came to Eurasia from Africa.
@@pc_suffering6941no?
I have loved tracking the development of the Dené-Yeniseian language family hypothesis over the years. I remember first coming across it about a decade or more ago, holding my reservations after reading some of the academic opinions on the family. Since then, it seems the hypothesis has garnered even more support, which is great to see. With the knowledge that Ket is also critically endangered, however, it also makes the loss of the language that much greater.
I'm surprised that this channel is so small while having such informing and well made content.
Thanks for the support!
I doubt that this channel will be small for long, the algorithm picks this kinda of stuff up like crazy
Ket is a fascinating and unique language, and one of unfortunately many on the verge of extinction. Thank you for making this video to spread awareness.
I had the opportunity to take a few classes under Edward Vajda some time ago. He is a uniquely fun and warm man, a great teacher, and is doing some amazing work. I strive to be someone like him.
I’ve been lucky enough to have Vajda as one of my linguistics professors! He’s a favorite on campus. Super quirky and fun; fantastic Professor
That's awesome! I emailed him with some questions about this language a while back and thought about the same as you! I’d love to go to grad school at WWU and meet him myself!
I've watched a lot of his lectures here on TH-cam, and I've not seen many professors who seem so passionate about their subjects, I'd love to have him as one of mine!
Thank you so much for informing me about this language. I never knew this even existed but now I really want this to be preserved
I want to learn a verb-heavy language like this so bad, but it's just so hard as an English speaker.
Ditto
You should do a video on the Sámi languages!
Especially kildin!
More people need to know about Ket, it's such a shame that it will die out. I wish there were proper english-language learning resources.
Thank you!! Ket has intrigued me for like 5+ years so its cool to see a video on it :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
Underrated channel asf
this channel is so underrated yet so interesting! keep it up u will grow eventually!
Glad you think so! Thanks!
I admit I like reading about languages and while I do like reading about their structure, words and how they work, I don't understand much without many examples, I prefer and understand more if reading about their history and relations with others
Aside from the Dene-Yeniseian connection with Native Americans I think the Yeniseian languages are also cool because some think their speakers were the ruling elite of the Xiongnu (ancestors of the Huns, lived around Mongolia and Siberia in ~ 200 bC)
Wikipedia says the Turco-Mongol Sky Deity called "Tengri" might come from Proto-Yeniseian *tɨŋgɨr- "high"
one of the "Northern Barbarians" in early Imperial China were called the Jie which might have come from "Kiat" which... would become the Ket
I've read there is a proposal (Karasuk) to connect Yeniseian with the Burushaski isolate of Kashmir but it seems to not be supported and there is no work with it alongside with Dene-Yeniseian
Thanks for the video, I'll sub and check out the rest of the channel too!
the fact that there's (seemingly) as many dialects as people speaking the language is... wow
let's go, would love to learn this language!
Proud to be an early viewer of such an amazing small channel, the beginning of something big fr
Ket is one of my favourite languages ever so it’s amazing that someone covered it! It’s a shame I’ll probably never learn to speak it
The Brofessor (www.youtube.com/@TheBrofessor) has done a few introductory videos on the language. Also, I plan on making more Ket videos in the future!
@@LeafNye thank you!
You guys should go while some native speakers remain
@@Kinotaurus I was actually thinking of that lol. But from what I know, it’s hard to get to where the Kets live. And since there’s no accommodation nearby, it makes it a lot harder. But when I’m in the financial position to actually make that happen I would love to try!
@@justakathings You need to fly from Moscow to Krasnoyarsk, and from there to Turukhansk by plane or, in summer, by river.
this channel is HEAVILY underrated) please keep on making great content!!
0:05 there's also the Eskimo-Aleut languages, there are a couple hundred speakers of Yupik languages in mainland Siberia.
this was really well made gj
You actually know how to say jenisei, awesome!
As a Ket myself I find this very accurate
nice video which allows to know more about this language
! 🙂
Merci!
How do you define language extinction? One definition says that a language becomes extinct when its last native speaker dies. But if there's only 1 native speaker left, what can they speak to? Or what if a non-native speaker learns the language then teaches it to the descendants of dead native speakers (as happened with Manx)? Could Ket be revived given that it is still spoken?
That’s an interesting idea. I do think Ket could be revived but the possibility is very low. The number of ethnic Kets is only around 1,100 according to Wikipedia. Given this and the sad fact that most of the Ket speaking villages are heavily reliant on Russian Vodka (which keeps the populace in a drunken stupor, Dr. Vajda was almost shot by an alcoholic while recording the language in the village of Kellogg) the possibility for a language revival is almost impossible.
However, I would love to see this comment proved wrong in the future
Edit: Globalization is also significant in hindering the survival and growth of Ket.
I also thought of ketamine when I saw the title 😂
you probably don't know who this is, but you sound like MaxLevelIdot settled down and became a langauge enthusiast. epic video
Super interesting!
Your channel is cooler than Ket
Impressive!
89th sub! Keep it up dude!
Thanks, I plan on it!
I love ket!
145th sub! Your videos are awesome
Welcome to the channel!
The people would first need to gain independance from Russija before there could be moves to strengthen the language.
Do any Western academics speak Ket? I'd like to learn to speak it one day.
Vietic languages like Atel Mrengbeu Arem have like ten speakers left
I absolutely understood none of that but great video
Thanks, I'll work on making it more understandable!
Where's the chart at 5:14 from?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeniseian_languages
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The graphics are often too dark and illegible
Thanks for the feedback!
@@LeafNyemaybe use white and lighter, less saturated blue on the grey background
Investing at 392 subs, will be back at 39,200
Thank you! Glad your here for the journey!
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English has way more than 120 root words lol
This is my source: unacademy.com/content/ssc/study-material/english/word-roots/#:~:text=In%20the%20English%20language%2C%20there,with%20the%20suffixes%20and%20prefixes.
I think you may be confusing root words with morphemes, which are the smallest unit of meaning in a language. I don’t have an exact figure of how many morphemes English has on hand but I am sure it is very high. Thanks for your comment!
@@LeafNye No, I'm talking about root words. The article you linked seems to be AI-generated and unreliable.
On Wikipedia you can find thousands of roots strewn throughout lists:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_medical_roots,_suffixes_and_prefixes
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Greek_and_Latin_roots_in_English/A%E2%80%93G
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Germanic_and_Latinate_equivalents_in_English
@@LeafNyeI'm having trouble finding an independent corroborating source, a methodology, or even a complete list of the 120 roots.
Your source says that 120 roots "have been identified." By whom and how?
That article is not an academic source; it's a piece of content marketing for a test-prep service. It has multiple grammar and capitalization errors, and cites "self-created" as its only source!
This concept of "root words" (or "Root words"--the writers can't decide whether to capitalize this invention of theirs) is not a thing, except in this article. Maybe they mean "word roots"--in which case, the number is wayyyy over 120.
叶尼塞语系为什么在短短几十年前就突然消失了
由于俄罗斯政府对人民施加的压力（这是通过谷歌翻译的，所以希望它仍然有意义）
@@LeafNye thank you for your reply. Yenisei dying out within a few decades because of suppression from the russian empire?
Ещё же есть несколько носителей языка.
Uh...English has a lot more than 120 roots m8, even if you're only talking about verb roots...
unacademy.com/content/ssc/study-material/english/word-roots/#:~:text=In%20the%20English%20language%2C%20there,with%20the%20suffixes%20and%20prefixes.
Ainu itak an-i
'Ket' itak rehe wa 'Kot' itak Chu-Kot Chuk-chi kor-yak ya-k ut = Sakha Sakha-lin si-khot -e-Alin mountain
koryak kerek
re-he an-ak-ne a-ru-pak-þe an ya an-te oya pumpo- kol Asin itak yugh ugric yug-khir River mames Bit-yug river Tributary Don! , ket-kheta river krasno-yar-sk-kray Kot-uy Khatanga river what is your tribe name ? we are the people
live on the river ket?
Tunguska River krasno yarsk Tungus peoples Amur region ! Kat-anga khat-anga river far apart Angara
Crazy how most languages in the world are minor and dying.
You can't even imagine how many languages did Russians destroy and extinguish
wait English has only 120 root words? does that include things like "waffle" and "cork" and "flotsam?"
No, it doesn’t include those. I believe I cited a resource on the topic in the description if you wanna check it out!
The presentation is too complex for none native English learners English is not the only language photos and boxes and no real words speaks too fast Vadja was better
What an absolute horror of a language! The world will be a better place when it’s gone!
0:05 The only language family spreading between the old world and the new? Excluding families brought over by more recent immigrants obviously, Aren't there still some people in far eastern Siberia who speak a language related to Inuktitut and Yupʼik?
«Бән ит-aмдаӈа ааӈ ӄа', сябандаӈа интеллигенэр, сагамет ъгат биик ӄа', альгит даӷолей. Ка догот иксиӈ биньдэп туль ӄоматамдаӈа. Бууӈ ейин ӄуусь ареал,хай ка биик бәнь энаӄ ӄапӄат даӈаӄо».
М. Э. Расулзадә
@ket_we
#ӃааряндаӈаCамосознанэй
hello native ket speaker