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It is actually pretty easy to fit tones to a melody

It actually pretty easy to fit the tones to a melody.

It's quitep interesting, but maybe we should focus more about pronunciation.

0:46 It's spelled "viszlát", not vislát

What about Navajo

note: some other famous pitch accent languages include Japanese and ancient Greek.

It's called wayuunaiki, not wayuu. Thanks for mentionning it though. Indigenous languages and indigenous cultures are almost never heard or spoken about, which perpertuates colonization. There are many indigenous languages spoken in so called Latin America which have nothing to do with Latin. Same goes in North America, like Diné, which was used as a code language during WWII because it's a very complex language. There are also the indigenous languages of New Zealand, Australia and all the African countries. I'm really tired of being subjected to the domination of English, the erasure of indigenous languages and the putting forward of colonial nationalist languages like French, Spanish, Portuguese and so on, which are totally opposite to tribal languages which are often indigenous. Being French, I was very surprised to learn that Gaulish was spoken for around 1000 years on today's French land. Nobody speaks the language now or knows that it ever existed.

WESTERN LANGUAGE ARE HARD SINCE THE TROUBLE GRAMMAR

People learn to ride a bike by riding a bike, people learn to cook by cooking, people learn to speak a language by speaking that language

I don't think Wayuu feels all that difficult to be honest. Japanese word order used to confuse me when I first learned it but now I pretty much got used to it. Also the fact Wayuu uses the Latin script makes it feel so much easier.

For me I have a lot of trouble with highly analytic languages. Especially if they're monosyllabic. This would include chinese, Vietnamese and a few others. I got to around b2 (HSK4) in chinese and it was quite hard. Now I'm studying Thai and it's perhaps even harder

Punjabi, Haryanvi and Khariboli of India are also tonal languages. But most listened Indian music are in these languages.

is it wayuu out there?

Ainu itak an-i 'Ket' itak rehe wa 'Kot' itak Chu-Kot Chuk-chi kor-yak ya-k ut = Sakha Sakha-lin si-khot -e-Alin mountain koryak kerek re-he an-ak-ne a-ru-pak-þe an ya an-te oya pumpo- kol Asin itak yugh ugric yug-khir River mames Bit-yug river Tributary Don! , ket-kheta river krasno-yar-sk-kray Kot-uy Khatanga river what is your tribe name ? we are the people live on the river ket? Tunguska River krasno yarsk Tungus peoples Amur region ! Kat-anga khat-anga river far apart Angara

The presentation is too complex for none native English learners English is not the only language photos and boxes and no real words speaks too fast Vadja was better

중국인의 목소리가 시끄러운 이유를 납득했습니다 그들은 소리의 높낮이를 전달하기위해 필사적으로 목소리를 높혀야합니다😅😅😅

pitch accent is not tone

Some tonal languages are more forgiving with the tones than others. In Thai, from my limited experience, people will still generally understand you if you're close with the tones. Not so in Vietnamese (I'm a fluent Vietnamese speaker). You gotta be exact with those mfs. I was a music translator for awhile (from English to Vietnamese, so we had to take a set melody and translate into Vietnamese). We had to always match the tones with the melody, which was very often torture. But someone else on the team that translated from English to Mandarin said that it's not so strict in Mandarin, they could often get away with using a word with a tone that didn't match the note.

Anecdotal evidence but almost all people that try to learn Vietnamese give up (I've lived in VN for 20 years). The reason its so difficult is because of pronunciation, the sound system is vast and complex, and so many of the sounds aren't found in many other languages. Its so incredibly difficult just to understand and be understood. Essentially you have to climb mount everest just to have a basic conversation, and most people aren't able to do it. Having said that, the grammar is a breeze and the writing system is easy compared to other languages. So once you get past that mt. everest, you'll be golden. Japanese, on the other hand, is comically easy to pronounce. So its easy to have a conversation with someone as long as you've memorized the words. However, the grammar and the writing system are kinda nuts. So you could get lost in the weeds after shooting out of the gate. I think this question is more complex than mr Nye is implying.

Just to help with the tones as you pronounce them in the beginning. I think you should be a bit more aggresive with the pitch changes.

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Japanese is way harder than Chinese. Japan, Korea and Vietnam are collectively called the Sinosphere. Japanese culture is Chinese Tang Dynasty culture replica. Google search for Japanese missions to imperial China and japense missions to Tang Dynasty. Japanese uses three writing systems all originating from China. Hiragana is cursive Hanzi (Han Chinese characters named after the Han Dynasty of China). Katakana is partial Hanzi. Kanji is Hanzi. Whereas Chinese only uses Hanzi, one writing system. Each Hanzi in Chinese only takes one sound (very few have two but they are exceptions) whereas every single Hanzi in Japanese takes at least two pronunciations, onyomi pronunciation that came from Chinese, and kunyomi which is native Japanese pronunciation. grammatically speaking, Chinese is way simpler than Japanese in grammar. I speak fluent Cantonese and Mandarin and can read and write traditional and simplified Hanzi, but Japanese is still hard for me because all three writing systems and two different pronunciations for the same Hanzi are too confusing and too complicated. Not to mention it’s quite useless to learn Japanese compared to Chinese, and Japanese culture is just a Sinospheric Tang Dynasty replica. Chinese is like Latin for sinospheric cultures, except Chinese isn’t a dead language but is the most spoken language in the world, and Chinese economy is number two and has been a world super power since ancient times, so it’s way more useful and less complicated to learn Chinese than to learn Japanese. I don’t see a point in learning Japanese other than their self bragging pro-japan and anti-China propaganda trying to demonize and vilify the mother culture while overly advertising their copycat Sinospheric culture. Not to mention China is way more ancient with authentic culture with way more massive land than Japan. It’s all Japanese propaganda trying to demonize China while overly advertising their copycat culture.

Counterpoint: Ithkuil

This question has passed through my mind and i am exited for the answer

Actually even though a syllable may have a different tone what counts for the tone to be understood is not the mean pitch but the shape of the pitch change : if the tone is gliding, falling, rising, dipping it doesn't matter from or to what height it is gliding, falling, rising or dipping.

Did u just missed mentioning punjabi, a tonal language that rules the indian music industry. That also uses the mixed approach although tends more to retain the tone...

Cherkess or Abkhazian are the hardest languages, not even dedicated linguists understand them because they have the most obtuse phonetics, almost totally lacking vowels. Grammar is by comparison an easy thing to get around, phonetics can be the hardest thing, I speak English (L2) almost perfectly but I will never ever fully understand the pronunciation, on the other hand Basque (also L2 to me) has very easy phonetics and the grammar, while somewhat complex and maybe counterintuitive for Indoeuropean native speakers, is still so logical and almost systematic that it's just a matter of patience.

English is "proto-Indoeuropean"? LOL.

Also when people talk about long words, it's good to remember that how languages are written is quite arbitrary. As a native Finnish speaker I often hear how people are amazed by long Finnish words, and while in some cases they are interesting and carry more meaning than an English counterpart would, often they just are words that could literally be the same in English if the spelling rules for English and Finnish were the same. For example "ylioppilastutkintolautakunta" might seem long until you recognize that it's just literally "high school graduate examination board". In Finnish since ylioppilastutkintolautakunta means a single thing, it is written without spaces between the words. It's a word that is more than the sum of its parts. Mind you, the English word would be longer than the Finnish one if English used the same spelling rules: highschoolgraduateexaminationboard. Looks quite long doesn't it 😅

Bengali (and a lot of other South Asian languages probably) don’t have a fixed order. It can flip and probably makes it really hard for English speakers to learn more or less

this channel is HEAVILY underrated) please keep on making great content!!

Word order is such a strange metric for difficulty, especially since you already used another grammar concept, degree of synthesis. New, diffucult sounds or complicated phonotactics have got to be one of the biggest barriers to language learning yet you didn't mention it.

The entire Asian population: hold our rice bowls

As a Cantonese speaker. Filling in the lyrics has always been hard to do, so hard in fact it is an actual separate job than the singer/composer in the music industry. But the result is beautiful.

Seems like yoda speak to me.

As a language enthusiast, I was glad to find your channel ! ☺️ What is your mother tongue ? And what was the most difficult language to learn for you so far ? :)

Ubykh.

Do any Western academics speak Ket? I'd like to learn to speak it one day.

I worked as a medicine doctor in la guajira, I had a chart of useful words that let me had a somewhat decent conversation with the locals, they would giggle when I mixed up the words or mispronounced them, I have a very thick accent in english, I have no doubt is even thicker in wayunaiki. I could not, for the best of my efforts ever pronounce the sound ü… or tell the difference between the long and short vowels. For example ja’rai jarai… is easy to differentiate in text, but try that in a normal speed conversation with a bunch of other words. But with my conversation skills and the charity of the locals I got to be able to treat basic stuffs. Like itching, flu, pain, eye problems, gastric issues, and detect pregnant women. Which was my most common mispronounced misussed word “Pregnant?” Apparently I always asked if I was pregnant. The same way we have verb conjugation in spanish, wayuunaiki has conjugation for words, teki, is head… but is my head, your head is piki, and that other person head.. is… i dont remember that word. So, i would ask AISH TEKI? And they would look at me, like… how would I know? I should ask AISH PIKI? Then they would reply to me AISH TEKI. Obviously I never learned written wayunaiki, so whatever I am writing, is me writing in spanish whatever I heard. (Just in case) One of my most memorable patients was this grandma who refused to aid my basic wayuunaiki, and would blast me full constructed sentences. For her, I was wayuu, and therefor I should speak the language, didn’t help my last name is a very common last name in la guajira. Im not from la guajira, neither I am wayuu, but my looks and my last name convinced her that I was supposed to speak the language. I would tell her, I am not wayuu, I am “mocaná”…. Mocaná… who are those? She would ask me, and I would explain to her my ancestry, im mixed, but in her head she would only type me as the side of my native american ancestry. It didn’t matter to her my white, arabic or black ancestry, only the native american, and she would scoff when I tell her that the mocaná language is a dead language now… it dissapeared. The cycle would repeat in the next appointment, or she wouldnt take no for an answer, I was wayuu. She didn’t do that to the other doctors tho, only to me. I do look native american, at the time the other doctors working with me, altought also mestizos like me and most colombians, one was more black, the other two were very white. So she would pick me as her doctor and scold me for not speaking wayunaiki properly, good thing her grand daughter always came with her, and translated me whatever she said includding the nagging. 😂

This just means tonal language speakers are at a disadvantage. I mean, singing is an integral part of human experience and for your mother tongue to disable you from doing it with ease and add a difficulty to it.. that is terrible

Are there any new videos planned or anything?

Great video but the name of the language is wayuunaiki

You didn't provide any examples... that would've added to the video.

I’m not even Chinese or speak Chinese and I can tell you butchered all the ma. especially mǎ

English is 'Indoeuropean' but that is not important since it doesn't have much in common with the proto-language.

0:49 Dine-Yeniseian is a hypothetical grouping, I'd suggest you don't use it without mentioning its theoretical

You know what's crazy?! Hungarian language can be SOV, SVO, VSO, VOS, OVS and OSV at the same time. Depends on what do you want to emphasize: SOV: Peti megette a fánkot. SVO: Peti a fánkot ette meg. VSO: Megette Peti a fánkot. VOS: Megette a fánkot Peti. OVS: A fánkot Peti ette meg. OSV: A fánkot megette Peti. All makes sense to say in Hungarian. The power of agglutinative languages (conjugation). 🥰 The "t" suffix makes it crystal clear who ate what. (The "o" sound before that is a complementary sound)

Proto-Indo-European is it's own language... English is just a Indoeuropean language DERIVED from Proto-Indo-Euopean 😂

I think for SVO languages, the most difficult would be one where the object comes first and where the verb isn't in between so either OSV or VSO