I wouldn't put Gamma Guts that low. It sounds bad on paper, but if you combine it with Scarier Face (a must usually) it basically gives you invulnerability to a lot of enemies like Snowbots, Rats, Crystal Spiders, Freaks, Maggots and generally let's you kill enemies by just walking over them. It makes the Labs when looping a walk in the park, and you'd be protected by Maggots too who might be hard to spot in the heat of battle sometimes. Also, Rabbit Paw can be bad if you don't use a lot of ammo in general, as it will drop so much ammo that it will heavily lower Medkit spawning rates. If you didn't know, Medkits drop when damage is taken, but also if you ammo is lower. The higher the ammo you have in total, the less frequent they will spawn, even if you have 1 hp left. Other that those two things, I guess it's a pretty solid tier list. I mean, there isn't a lot to argue anymore as the meta has been established for years at this point, so it's kind of obvious that things like Strong Spirit or Long Arms are good.
That's totally fair, yeh! My problem with gamma guts is how inconsistent it feels sometimes, like I have to actively be walking into enemies for it to actually apply. As for rabbit paw, I think it applies to medkit drops as well, not just ammo. That said, I never thought about it when you've already got plenty of ammo and won't get the medkit drops you might need, though if you're high enough on ammo, you probably still have plenty of firepower to keep yourself safe for the time being.
@@bonklaclonk8683 You just have to see Gamma Guts as a "dollar store" Boiling Veins. It should be used as an assurance rather than an offensive mean. But again, is not like you are wrong, Gamma Guts sure is more of a niche than an actual strategy, but it's still pretty useful. About the Medkits part, I might suffer more from the lack of them sometimes caused by Rabbit Paw because I main Chicken. No Medkit, no resurrection basically.
In my experience even without scarier face Gamma guts gives you immunity to rats. Just saved me on my winnign run to unlcok melting b skin as yeah it saves you from dmg in the sewers, frozen city, and labs.
Impact wrists doesn't scale with enemy hp, so if you intend to get into later loops it becomes a dead mutation. Also stress is one of the coolest mutations imo for late game. You have your base firing speed which works fine until it's not fast enough which causes you to take damage. Then once your health lowers stress increases your fire rate back to sustainable levels for the situation, allowing you to manage the crowd and heal back up. Stress basically increases your fire rate exactly when you need it to which essentially makes it an ammo management mutation without you needing to make any conscious effort.
I'd put Stress S tier, due to late game, post loop you're probably going to be at lower HP's, and getting to smack things super quick is great. Even at like 7/8 HP, Stress gives you I think a +5% buff to your swing speed. Lot of high-loop players consider it to be slightly below something like Rhino Skin.
Fun fact about Bolt Marrow, it also makes the penetration stat stronger! Shoot a super splinter gun into a crowd while having it and you'll seee what I mean! That alone bumps it for at least B tier for me. Nice list btw!
I really loved hearing you explain your thoughts! I agree that scarier face is incredible (it really helps make cursed caves bearable pre-loop along with many bosses like lil' hunter and captain), but imo trigger fingers feels necessary on loops, so I would just barely rank it as the best mutation (but what do I know, I am no pro at this game, lol). I am also a big fan of stress, I would personally move it up but that's just because I find it really fun :) I pretty much agreed on everything else though! Overall, great list!
Ahh I'm so glad you liked it! Trigger fingers is definitely incredibly good, and unless you have weapons that dont need it (Auto Crossbow, Energy Sword, etc), It can feel incredibly necessary to have. And stress is a super fun perk, no harm in taking it at all!
Awsome video! your contents great and your commentary doesn't feel forced or aimless like a lot of other creators. There aren't many creators that talk about nuclear throne let alone ones that feel like they play the game on kinda the same level as the casual viewer. It feels weird when your watching a video made by this untouchable god and it makes it hard to understand and relate too, It's almost like they've forgotten what it was like when they were not amazing at the game but your content hits that perfect in between. You clearly know what your talking about and have the experience to talk about it without feeling out of touch with mastery of the game. I play nuclear throne a ton and it's one of my favorite games. I only just lopped for the very first time and died on the first level just before the end of 1-1. I beat throne two by cheesing it with eyes lol. I still don't really have a favorite character that I can sit down and play with consistently sadly... I never really tried Fish until recently and he kinda fun, Crystal fells kinda basic, Robot feels kinda clunky trying to eat all the weapons at the end of a level to get amo but im also just not great with him, Eyes is eh and i dont really like pulling enemies towards me despite the idea of bullets avoiding me being great, meltings not only hard but I suck at using the explosion thing, I used to think YV was my favorite but know Idk, I dont really wanna main steroids, Rebel just doesn't click for me, neither does chicken but ive almost never played them, horror is kinda basic but hes funnny lil guy. Idk I'd love to hear what you think or if you have any tips for looping.Ik this is stupidly long but I think your doing great and I'm subbing cant wait to see more of your stuff.
also hell yeah rabbits paw feel so broken especially once you get to the frozen city it feels like you get amo and hps for killing anything at all. I can only imagine what looping with it is like. I'm planning on 100 precenting the game if you have any tips for that I forgot to put it in the main comment and it was also just way too long lol.
I´m NT super fan and this is an incredible video. Of course i´m not agree with you in all of your choices. In my opinion Hammerhead must be in B level or C at least, because it can save you in open areas and without refuge, i use it a lot. The Bolt Marrow is good too, C level at least, splinter pistol and super crosbown are very efective in advanced stages. The rest of your choices are good for me. Congrats.
Another Throne Butt I think is basically a necessity in S tier is for Steroids. It combined with any other ammo Regen ability is a huge deal with how easy it is to blow through ammo with him.
And that's absolutely fine! Having fun is always the most important thing for any game, so don't feel pressured to use a mutation just because I said it's good! This video is just so people might know what to take if they want to do better. If you're having fun with stuff like sharp teeth and shotgun shoulders, use them!
@@bonklaclonk8683 Yuppp, no problem it's nice sometimes to pick them because they are funny, also I just started trying the mutations you recommend in the video and my runs have been completely improved, before I couldnt beat mum when looping, but now I just killed Hyper Crystal in the first try, so thanks a bunch
Bowling Veins te da la capacidad de inmolarte y abrir una pared detonandote a ti mismo y reposicionarte, que junto a Blood Lust te hace recuperarte rapido
i feel like "depends" tier should only have throne butt OR have weapon based mutations in there as well also im interested in how would you tier ultra mutations so if you maybe could rate them in reply that would be great and gamma guts are big life saver as other comments mentioned
I've thought about doing one, but it'd be tough with just how many weapons there are. I'd be fun to try though! Maybe group similar ones together? I might try and figure something out.
Gamma guts is not a mutation that you actively try to use with the exception of standing on top of cop portals (which is very useful; cops are dangerous). Gamma Guts is one of the best layers of protection in the game and im not just talking about rats and freaks. The thing is, even if the enemy deals contact damage, you still won't take any damage if gamma guts kills them quickly enough. For example, if you do a moderate amount of damage to a snowbot, that snowbot NOW CANNOT DEAL DAMAGE TO YOU. Same applies to crystal spiders. It will even save you from dog guardians. I mean, how many times have you died/taken damage to snowbots because the split second shot you landed on it didnt do enough damage to kill it? Now that isn't something that can happen. It also creates situations where you can deal chip damage to a large group of enemies that deal contact damage and then IGNORE those enemies since they can no longer threaten you. They effectively die when only taking a little bit of damage. That isnt even mentioning that Gamma guts is a huge middle finger to debatably the most dangerous enemy in the game; the jungle fly. Very much an A tier perk for me. Would be S but I'm never picking GG over trigger fingers or stress. Also of note; if you are a god gamer the DPS from Gamma guts is INSANE and I've seen god gamers melt bosses you'd never expect them to be able to melt like big dog and Mom. I am not such a god gamer but for those god gamers it may very well be S tier.
I personally treat last wish as a better/worse version of Patience essencially just a reroll if other 2 mutations are bad. Open mind is something you pick only when looking for a GunGun to get the golden nuke launcher achievement. I would put it in the F tier. Scarier face actually takes away 1/4 of enemy HP. I's crazy strong especially for bosses and other bulkier enemies. 35:00 - That's because robot's eating just spawns ammo pichup directly on top of him and since ammo kits have a chance to be raplaced by hp kit then your hp is not full it reasults with hp kit spawning on you thus HP bonus.
I feel that you missed pointing out one of the best utilities for Eagle Eyes and that's using it with triple machine gun/quadruple machine gun or the bouncing shotgun... having those bullets in a straight line is very destructive and makes those weapons more tempting to take.
Oh and for Last Wish, it fully restores Chicken's depleted health, which is situational but could save you. And Laser Brain makes energy melee weapons hit twice!
I have to mention one last thing, Stress is amazing all around but with Rebel, it's just insane. I have a golden assault rifle for him in my save file and he comes out of the gate blasting like there's no tomorrow.
Disclaimer: I'm not one of those super players (my record is only L3). But I do have extensive experience in this game, having completed all achievements. My two most blatant disagreements: Euphoria keeps enemy projectiles on screen longer, it's more harmful than helpful. Definitely an F tier. Gamma Guts is very good. If you haven't damaged a crystal spider or snowbot quite enough to destroy it, and it touches you, it'll die instantly instead of damaging you. You can also ignore small enemies (maggots, rats, labs). Obliterating certain bosses and enemies without spending ammo is just a bonus. Synergizes with Scarier Face. This is A tier. We are in agreement about Scarier Face, though. I rank it as very very slightly above Strong Spirit, and few people do.
I have the game on Xbox and Switch, to me the Switch has gamma guts how it’s supposed to be, however on Xbox gamma guts is super OP, rats can’t hurt you, ever, even without scarier face, same thing with the 6-1 little enemies. AND….. on the switch for some reason Throne 2 gives up after like 30 seconds. (I have yet to see anyone online talk about these inconsistencies)
Cool video but I'm not a fan of the "depends" tier I prefer when people place inconsistent items based on a statistical average of their usefulness (like you already did with some others)
I hard disagree with your F tier choices. Recycle Gland makes ammo consumption for bullet weapons so much more ammo efficient due to it's generous chances which can make expensive weapons like Hyper Rifle and even Minigun into your general use weapon, especially with another ammo mutation. Sharp Teeth is nice to have if enemies end up overwhelming you and is really fun with Rebel with her ability. Definitely better than the stuff in D tier in my opinion. Otherwise good video :)
I appreciate it, thanks! My issue with recycle glands is that it never feels truly consistent enough to be a perfect ammo mutation, especially given that bullet weapons aren't great, and the pop weapons don't work with it at all. As for sharp teeth, it can be nice for clearing out a lot of enemies at once, but requiring that you take damage is always dangerous. That said, maybe I need to try it more lol
- Bullet weapons is like the worse weapon type post loop: low atk/ammo with no way to amplify it, good weapon like mini/ultra mini slow you down and make you vulnable to threats. And recycle only make the consumsion lower without acually fixing it's weapon low dps - Sharp teeth deal at max 10 dame at the cost of 4 hp -> 1 press of post loop weapon. And the better you are, the more loop you can make, the less effectiveness this mutation become For D tier, although they still suck, at least they provide you a chance to have a safer run: Negate melee dame.. better weapon (this is super good if you are looking for Shove or Super FlasmarCanon or any end tier weapon of you choice in particular) Even double mutation crate is good at early.. easier time using shotgun type wp... etc
@@1cupofcoffeeplz852 I always figured Shell types were the worsts since they lacked good pierce potential despite their spread, compared to bullet which can provide good suppressed fire with picks like minigun, double minigun, hyper rifle, triple and quad machine gun, and ultra pistol. Like what shell weapons are you gonna be bringing to loops? I can only really think of wave gun and super flak cannon being good picks for loop gameplay and even then there are better options. I'd say bullet is super viable post loop as a reliable option especially with recycle gland making them so much safer to use.
@@fisheggs9666 Well Super Flak Cannon is good post loop (not the best) as shotgun type. Slug types on other hand are pretty good in general with the exception of heavy Slugger. 22/24 dame per ammo with good fire rate. While their high tier wp dps are the same (Galting Slugger vs Galting Gun). The thing with shotgun is that due to it slow fire rate in general it’s synchronized much better with fire rate increases mutations hence enchanting it’s dps. You also have a safer time with shotgun type with fire and hide tatics. And you also have better alley gun fire with shotgun + shotgun shoulder… Tbh I would also move Shoulder to F tier. But if you compare Shotgun ammo’s type to Bullet ammo’s type alone…
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Recycling gland double minigun will change you as a human being on a fundamental level
Steroid + recycling gland + lucky shot + two double miniguns + stress = IM FUCKING INVINCIBLE
I can no longer taste peanuts and I don't know what to think of it.
@Iskolya. And throne butt
I wouldn't put Gamma Guts that low. It sounds bad on paper, but if you combine it with Scarier Face (a must usually) it basically gives you invulnerability to a lot of enemies like Snowbots, Rats, Crystal Spiders, Freaks, Maggots and generally let's you kill enemies by just walking over them.
It makes the Labs when looping a walk in the park, and you'd be protected by Maggots too who might be hard to spot in the heat of battle sometimes.
Also, Rabbit Paw can be bad if you don't use a lot of ammo in general, as it will drop so much ammo that it will heavily lower Medkit spawning rates. If you didn't know, Medkits drop when damage is taken, but also if you ammo is lower. The higher the ammo you have in total, the less frequent they will spawn, even if you have 1 hp left.
Other that those two things, I guess it's a pretty solid tier list. I mean, there isn't a lot to argue anymore as the meta has been established for years at this point, so it's kind of obvious that things like Strong Spirit or Long Arms are good.
That's totally fair, yeh! My problem with gamma guts is how inconsistent it feels sometimes, like I have to actively be walking into enemies for it to actually apply.
As for rabbit paw, I think it applies to medkit drops as well, not just ammo. That said, I never thought about it when you've already got plenty of ammo and won't get the medkit drops you might need, though if you're high enough on ammo, you probably still have plenty of firepower to keep yourself safe for the time being.
@@bonklaclonk8683 You just have to see Gamma Guts as a "dollar store" Boiling Veins.
It should be used as an assurance rather than an offensive mean.
But again, is not like you are wrong, Gamma Guts sure is more of a niche than an actual strategy, but it's still pretty useful.
About the Medkits part, I might suffer more from the lack of them sometimes caused by Rabbit Paw because I main Chicken. No Medkit, no resurrection basically.
In my experience even without scarier face Gamma guts gives you immunity to rats. Just saved me on my winnign run to unlcok melting b skin as yeah it saves you from dmg in the sewers, frozen city, and labs.
@@rowanwilson5859 for unlocking melting skin b boiling veins and gamma guts are really a must have
For newer players, Gamma Guts also completely protects you from mimics and maggot canisters.
Impact wrists doesn't scale with enemy hp, so if you intend to get into later loops it becomes a dead mutation. Also stress is one of the coolest mutations imo for late game. You have your base firing speed which works fine until it's not fast enough which causes you to take damage. Then once your health lowers stress increases your fire rate back to sustainable levels for the situation, allowing you to manage the crowd and heal back up. Stress basically increases your fire rate exactly when you need it to which essentially makes it an ammo management mutation without you needing to make any conscious effort.
I'd put Stress S tier, due to late game, post loop you're probably going to be at lower HP's, and getting to smack things super quick is great. Even at like 7/8 HP, Stress gives you I think a +5% buff to your swing speed. Lot of high-loop players consider it to be slightly below something like Rhino Skin.
Fun fact about Bolt Marrow, it also makes the penetration stat stronger! Shoot a super splinter gun into a crowd while having it and you'll seee what I mean! That alone bumps it for at least B tier for me.
Nice list btw!
I... Didn't know that wtf lol. That's actually sick though, thanks!
@@bonklaclonk8683homing also is based on bolt size - use it with a splinter gun for amazing homing, absolutely decimates loop maggots
I really loved hearing you explain your thoughts! I agree that scarier face is incredible (it really helps make cursed caves bearable pre-loop along with many bosses like lil' hunter and captain), but imo trigger fingers feels necessary on loops, so I would just barely rank it as the best mutation (but what do I know, I am no pro at this game, lol). I am also a big fan of stress, I would personally move it up but that's just because I find it really fun :) I pretty much agreed on everything else though! Overall, great list!
Ahh I'm so glad you liked it! Trigger fingers is definitely incredibly good, and unless you have weapons that dont need it (Auto Crossbow, Energy Sword, etc), It can feel incredibly necessary to have. And stress is a super fun perk, no harm in taking it at all!
I personally think of Last Wish like a reroll, rather than a mutation on it's own. It's effect is hardly worth considering otherwise.
Great video! I had no idea scary face was so good
Its not this tier list is just trash
Scary face u can kinda see as your weapon dealing more damage it is great
Awsome video! your contents great and your commentary doesn't feel forced or aimless like a lot of other creators. There aren't many creators that talk about nuclear throne let alone ones that feel like they play the game on kinda the same level as the casual viewer. It feels weird when your watching a video made by this untouchable god and it makes it hard to understand and relate too, It's almost like they've forgotten what it was like when they were not amazing at the game but your content hits that perfect in between. You clearly know what your talking about and have the experience to talk about it without feeling out of touch with mastery of the game. I play nuclear throne a ton and it's one of my favorite games. I only just lopped for the very first time and died on the first level just before the end of 1-1. I beat throne two by cheesing it with eyes lol. I still don't really have a favorite character that I can sit down and play with consistently sadly... I never really tried Fish until recently and he kinda fun, Crystal fells kinda basic, Robot feels kinda clunky trying to eat all the weapons at the end of a level to get amo but im also just not great with him, Eyes is eh and i dont really like pulling enemies towards me despite the idea of bullets avoiding me being great, meltings not only hard but I suck at using the explosion thing, I used to think YV was my favorite but know Idk, I dont really wanna main steroids, Rebel just doesn't click for me, neither does chicken but ive almost never played them, horror is kinda basic but hes funnny lil guy. Idk I'd love to hear what you think or if you have any tips for looping.Ik this is stupidly long but I think your doing great and I'm subbing cant wait to see more of your stuff.
also hell yeah rabbits paw feel so broken especially once you get to the frozen city it feels like you get amo and hps for killing anything at all. I can only imagine what looping with it is like. I'm planning on 100 precenting the game if you have any tips for that I forgot to put it in the main comment and it was also just way too long lol.
I´m NT super fan and this is an incredible video.
Of course i´m not agree with you in all of your choices. In my opinion Hammerhead must be in B level or C at least, because it can save you in open areas and without refuge, i use it a lot. The Bolt Marrow is good too, C level at least, splinter pistol and super crosbown are very efective in advanced stages. The rest of your choices are good for me.
Congrats.
Another Throne Butt I think is basically a necessity in S tier is for Steroids. It combined with any other ammo Regen ability is a huge deal with how easy it is to blow through ammo with him.
Super informative! Thanks for making this. I’m pretty new and can’t find a character tier list, would you mind making one like this?
Of course, glad it helped! I've already thought about making one for characters too, I'd be happy to do so! :]
@Bonk Laclonk Please do, this was a cool vid!
@@bonklaclonk8683 don't make it if your anti-rogue bias will be there 😡
@@borcethugg5293 shut up Borce, Rogue is not a good character and I will die on this hill
@@bonklaclonk8683 Put funny triangle man S tier and I will shut up
new nuclear thrown content! such joy
Man, I have 100 hours in the Game, and I just realized that I have been using a LOT of Bad mutations. Well, at least it was fun
And that's absolutely fine! Having fun is always the most important thing for any game, so don't feel pressured to use a mutation just because I said it's good! This video is just so people might know what to take if they want to do better. If you're having fun with stuff like sharp teeth and shotgun shoulders, use them!
@@bonklaclonk8683 Yuppp, no problem it's nice sometimes to pick them because they are funny, also I just started trying the mutations you recommend in the video and my runs have been completely improved, before I couldnt beat mum when looping, but now I just killed Hyper Crystal in the first try, so thanks a bunch
Bowling Veins te da la capacidad de inmolarte y abrir una pared detonandote a ti mismo y reposicionarte, que junto a Blood Lust te hace recuperarte rapido
i feel like "depends" tier should only have throne butt OR have weapon based mutations in there as well
also im interested in how would you tier ultra mutations so if you maybe could rate them in reply that would be great
and gamma guts are big life saver as other comments mentioned
Gamma guts is S tier
Would love a weapons tier list. Feel like I'm ok at picking mutations but picking weapons not so much.
I've thought about doing one, but it'd be tough with just how many weapons there are. I'd be fun to try though! Maybe group similar ones together? I might try and figure something out.
Gamma guts is not a mutation that you actively try to use with the exception of standing on top of cop portals (which is very useful; cops are dangerous). Gamma Guts is one of the best layers of protection in the game and im not just talking about rats and freaks. The thing is, even if the enemy deals contact damage, you still won't take any damage if gamma guts kills them quickly enough.
For example, if you do a moderate amount of damage to a snowbot, that snowbot NOW CANNOT DEAL DAMAGE TO YOU. Same applies to crystal spiders. It will even save you from dog guardians. I mean, how many times have you died/taken damage to snowbots because the split second shot you landed on it didnt do enough damage to kill it? Now that isn't something that can happen. It also creates situations where you can deal chip damage to a large group of enemies that deal contact damage and then IGNORE those enemies since they can no longer threaten you. They effectively die when only taking a little bit of damage.
That isnt even mentioning that Gamma guts is a huge middle finger to debatably the most dangerous enemy in the game; the jungle fly.
Very much an A tier perk for me. Would be S but I'm never picking GG over trigger fingers or stress.
Also of note; if you are a god gamer the DPS from Gamma guts is INSANE and I've seen god gamers melt bosses you'd never expect them to be able to melt like big dog and Mom. I am not such a god gamer but for those god gamers it may very well be S tier.
I personally treat last wish as a better/worse version of Patience essencially just a reroll if other 2 mutations are bad.
Open mind is something you pick only when looking for a GunGun to get the golden nuke launcher achievement. I would put it in the F tier.
Scarier face actually takes away 1/4 of enemy HP. I's crazy strong especially for bosses and other bulkier enemies.
35:00 - That's because robot's eating just spawns ammo pichup directly on top of him and since ammo kits have a chance to be raplaced by hp kit then your hp is not full it reasults with hp kit spawning on you thus HP bonus.
Aquí lo gracioso para mí es que estoy bastante de acuerdo con clasificación de cada mutación.
Boiling veins + Melting is S tier
Me being a beginner (furthest 1st loop sewers) second stomach is basically s tier for me as it just rapidly gets me to full hp
I feel that you missed pointing out one of the best utilities for Eagle Eyes and that's using it with triple machine gun/quadruple machine gun or the bouncing shotgun... having those bullets in a straight line is very destructive and makes those weapons more tempting to take.
Oh and for Last Wish, it fully restores Chicken's depleted health, which is situational but could save you.
And Laser Brain makes energy melee weapons hit twice!
I have to mention one last thing, Stress is amazing all around but with Rebel, it's just insane. I have a golden assault rifle for him in my save file and he comes out of the gate blasting like there's no tomorrow.
@@rogue-like4lifeI don't think you know this but Rebel is a girl, Big Bandit is her brother too.
Disclaimer: I'm not one of those super players (my record is only L3). But I do have extensive experience in this game, having completed all achievements.
My two most blatant disagreements:
Euphoria keeps enemy projectiles on screen longer, it's more harmful than helpful. Definitely an F tier.
Gamma Guts is very good. If you haven't damaged a crystal spider or snowbot quite enough to destroy it, and it touches you, it'll die instantly instead of damaging you. You can also ignore small enemies (maggots, rats, labs). Obliterating certain bosses and enemies without spending ammo is just a bonus. Synergizes with Scarier Face. This is A tier.
We are in agreement about Scarier Face, though. I rank it as very very slightly above Strong Spirit, and few people do.
Useful, thank you!
I have the game on Xbox and Switch, to me the Switch has gamma guts how it’s supposed to be, however on Xbox gamma guts is super OP, rats can’t hurt you, ever, even without scarier face, same thing with the 6-1 little enemies. AND….. on the switch for some reason Throne 2 gives up after like 30 seconds. (I have yet to see anyone online talk about these inconsistencies)
Gamma guts is balanced imo, especially in areas like scrapyard and frozen city due to the fact almost everything usually explodes when near them
I would have put gamma guts and hammerhead slightly higher, I can't count how many times it saved me from a bad spawn/small ennemies
Cool video but I'm not a fan of the "depends" tier
I prefer when people place inconsistent items based on a statistical average of their usefulness (like you already did with some others)
id say bloodlust is easy S tier honestly it feels like a must pick every run for anyone even that arent getting L10 runs
song at 29:45?
Crystal Cave from Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Sky! All the music is from that game except the first song
@@bonklaclonk8683 thanks!!
@spur_ Absolutely! The whole soundtrack to that game is fantastic, can't recommend it enough
I hard disagree with your F tier choices. Recycle Gland makes ammo consumption for bullet weapons so much more ammo efficient due to it's generous chances which can make expensive weapons like Hyper Rifle and even Minigun into your general use weapon, especially with another ammo mutation. Sharp Teeth is nice to have if enemies end up overwhelming you and is really fun with Rebel with her ability. Definitely better than the stuff in D tier in my opinion. Otherwise good video :)
I appreciate it, thanks! My issue with recycle glands is that it never feels truly consistent enough to be a perfect ammo mutation, especially given that bullet weapons aren't great, and the pop weapons don't work with it at all. As for sharp teeth, it can be nice for clearing out a lot of enemies at once, but requiring that you take damage is always dangerous. That said, maybe I need to try it more lol
- Bullet weapons is like the worse weapon type post loop: low atk/ammo with no way to amplify it, good weapon like mini/ultra mini slow you down and make you vulnable to threats. And recycle only make the consumsion lower without acually fixing it's weapon low dps
- Sharp teeth deal at max 10 dame at the cost of 4 hp -> 1 press of post loop weapon. And the better you are, the more loop you can make, the less effectiveness this mutation become
For D tier, although they still suck, at least they provide you a chance to have a safer run: Negate melee dame.. better weapon (this is super good if you are looking for Shove or Super FlasmarCanon or any end tier weapon of you choice in particular) Even double mutation crate is good at early.. easier time using shotgun type wp... etc
@@1cupofcoffeeplz852 I always figured Shell types were the worsts since they lacked good pierce potential despite their spread, compared to bullet which can provide good suppressed fire with picks like minigun, double minigun, hyper rifle, triple and quad machine gun, and ultra pistol. Like what shell weapons are you gonna be bringing to loops? I can only really think of wave gun and super flak cannon being good picks for loop gameplay and even then there are better options. I'd say bullet is super viable post loop as a reliable option especially with recycle gland making them so much safer to use.
@@fisheggs9666 Well Super Flak Cannon is good post loop (not the best) as shotgun type. Slug types on other hand are pretty good in general with the exception of heavy Slugger. 22/24 dame per ammo with good fire rate.
While their high tier wp dps are the same (Galting Slugger vs Galting Gun). The thing with shotgun is that due to it slow fire rate in general it’s synchronized much better with fire rate increases mutations hence enchanting it’s dps. You also have a safer time with shotgun type with fire and hide tatics. And you also have better alley gun fire with shotgun + shotgun shoulder…
Tbh I would also move Shoulder to F tier. But if you compare Shotgun ammo’s type to Bullet ammo’s type alone…
Trigger Finger is the best mutation (yes i main yv)
bro put open mind over gamma, no reason to watch further, author clearly dont know how to play game
Open mind literally worst mutation possible, almost useless in preloop and complitly useless in loop
so wrong about gamma guts my guy
This is a tier list a novice at the game would make.
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