He did NOT bad-mouth the Stooges. He said he didn't particularly like their type of comedy, but he always said, "Moe and Larry were the best". That is not really bad-mouthing.
He was actually the third stooge that I remember the most Mostly because I had two of the movies on vhs that I’d play over and over And he was the third stooge in most or all of the movies made in the 60s
@@UnlicensedOkie DeRita was the only 3rd Stooge (not counting TV reruns of the classic shorts) in everything they produced -- feature films, TV cartoon segments, audio records, comic books, TV commercials, talk shows, live appearance tours -- from 1958 to 1970.
@@UnlicensedOkie If he didn't like the work, the scripts, or the other Stooges, or vice-versa, or anything to do with it at all, the pay or whatever, on the background of such an allegedly negative & cynical attitude as expressed here, he would never have worked with them so steadily for 12 years straight. Looks like the only 'bad-mouthing' to be found over here is against Curly Joe himself by whomever thought up the title of this video. Btw, as a Stooge devotee for 60 years now, I'm probably one of a very small minority of fans whose favorite Stooge has always been LARRY!
Correction: Jerome "Curly" Howard was the BABY of the three Howard brothers who played Stooges. Shemp was born in 1895, Moe in 1897, and Curly in 1903.
Yes I agree shemp was talented.i read that Lou costello knew that with shemps expert comic timing he could steal a movie.i read that when costello found out that shemp was going to be in a movie with him and Abbott costello would have shemps part cut down so he would not steal the movie from Abbott and costello.i saw Africa screams when I was 14 years old.shemp played a similar role a few years before in a blondie movie.
@@CurlysGrandson Fields at a local bar : "Was I in here last night and did I spend a twenty dollar bill?" bartender Shemp "Yeah". Fields : "What a load off my mind, I thought I lost it". BTW - he did a film with Olsen and Johnson and Shemp stole the show.
@@CurlysGrandson hi Bradley, cool you are here, your youtube channel is great, I recently subscribed and I like the three stooges, your grandfather Curly Howard is a legend, your great uncle Moe Howard along with Larry Fine are icons, Joe Derita and Joe Besser did a good job and I love your great uncle Shemp Howard so much, he was amazing. I wish there was an impersonation of Shemp on your channel, I've seen it with Curly, Moe, Larry and Curly G and they're awesome, but I miss Shemp, who knows, maybe he'll appear on your channel too, it would be fantastic. Bradley Server was a pleasure to see you here and I wish you much success.
I don’t get it. So WHEN did Joe Derita badmouth the stooges? You give a history of the group but never evidence of badmouthing. I’ve never heard of that before.
@@kabbey30 Well Shemp was very good also, I mean I think he's right there with Curly, as a kid I didn't think so, but years later I thought about it more and he was pretty funny in his own way.
Sorry wrong. Shemp (Samuel) was the third oldest Of the Horowitz brothers. Then Moses (moe) and Jerome (Curly) was the baby. You should take your own advice.
“ NOT SO HARRRRRD “ !! Remember that from Curly Joe ?? That guy always annoyed me . Anytime the stooges came on , as soon as I realized that Curly or Shemp were not in the episode, I turned it off . The original 2 ( Shemp and Curly ) were one of a kind . That’s the Three Stooges !! On a side note - I had no idea that Shemp was before Curly . I always thought the original 3 were Moe Larry and Curly . Definitely my favorite out of all . Happy Thanksgiving 🦃
@@nashvillecop1 Amen to that !! That was the biggest mistake of the Stooge franchise. It would of been better with just Moe and Larry by themselves. I know that must of been really trying to find a replacement of Shemp and Curly…. But this guy ??? What were they thinking 🤔
Shemp actually left the act in 1932 because he was sick and tired of his boss, Ted Healy's, heavy drinking and cruel practical jokes that he played on him, so he left to go solo, and was replaced with Curly.
Shemp also had what would have been diagnosed today as bipolar disorder. Ted Healy's "teasing, " was hard for him to take. All the Howards suffered from clinic depression, as verified by family members. It's ironic; the Stooges are remembered for the comic geniuses they were, but unless you're a Stooges fan, no one remembers Ted Healy!
@@debrahubbard763considering all the physical abuse that The 3 Stooges had to endure, it’s amazing that they ended up “only bipolar”. Anyone else would’ve “gone totally postal” and got locked up in a padded cell. Half of Larry’s face was calloused from all the slaps he had to endure during his career. In “Brideless Groom” (1947), Christine McIntyre was required to slap Shemp. But being such a sweet lady, she only gave him a light slap. So shemp told her to hit him hard, telling her that one take with a hard slap would be less painful than doing that same take over and over again. So she let him have it and knocked him across the room.
@@debrahubbard763 Healy was allegedly beaten so severely by actor Wally Beery and two mobbed up Hollywood producers, Albert Brocolli and Pat DiCicco, in the parking lot of the Trocadero in December of 1937 that he later died from inflicted wounds. It is possible / likely, however that Healy's death was the direct result of his habitual and copious consumption of alcohol.
Not one single piece of evidence that Curly Joe said anything disparaging about the time he spent as part of the Three Stooges...I don't think that is right to create content on a subject that you can't offer proof of said content.....This then just becomes click bait...F.V. I always thought you had higher standards than this.
WIKI: Paul Albert "Mousie" Garner (July 31, 1909 - August 8, 2004) Mousie Garner and the Three Stooges Stage star Ted Healy worked with three rowdy stooges (showbiz slang for "assistants"): Moe Howard, Larry Fine, and Shemp Howard (and later Curly Howard). When Howard, Fine, and Howard chose to work on their own, first in 1930 and later in 1934 as "The Three Stooges", Healy promptly replaced them with three new stooges. Mousie Garner worked alongside his cousin, Jack Wolf (father of Warner Wolf) and Richard "Dick" Hakins between 1922 and 1936.[1] Mousie Garner continued working on stage and on screen with Dick Hakins, and either his cousin Jack Wolf or Wolf's replacement, Sammy Wolfe, in a musical comedy trio known as The Gentlemaniacs (aka: Garner, Wolf [or Wolfe] and Hakins) throughout the 1920s and '30s. The Gentlemaniacs starred in several feature films and short subjects including After the Show (1929), Swing It, Professor (1937), The Hit Parade (1937), Murder With Reservations (1938) and Radio and Relatives (1940). Garner, however, almost became one of the Three Stooges for two occasions. According to Garner's autobiography, after Shemp Howard died suddenly in November 1955, Moe Howard and Larry Fine wanted Garner to join them in 1956, but Garner was then under contract to Spike Jones as a musical comedian with Jones's band, the City Slickers. Despite Moe Howard pleading his case to Jones personally, Jones would not release Garner; Joe Besser would eventually replace Shemp in 1956.[1] The claim in Garner's autobiography can not be accepted as a whole truth since a similar story can be found in Moe's autobiography, but with Joe DeRita as the protagonist instead of Garner and Harold Minsky instead of Jones.[4] After Besser quit the act in 1958, Larry suggested Garner again as a potential replacement and he and Moe would later rehearse with Garner. However, based on his tryout performance, Moe later remarked that Garner was "completely unacceptable" to the act. Joe DeRita would instead become the "third stooge" in October 1958. Nevertheless, in the early 1970s, DeRita, with Moe's blessing, would invite Garner and Frank Mitchell to join the "New Three Stooges" act, filling in for the ailing Larry and Moe, respectively.[5]
Columbia thought a white man smacking a black man wouldn't have been taken well. They may have been right, but Mantan was funnier than both Joe Besser and Joe DeRita in their stooge roles and I think it would have brought new life to the team - Larry Wolff
Curly Joe was not in any of the Columbia shorts The Three Stooges made from 1934 to 1957. Joe DeRita came on the scene after Joe Besser quit the Three Stooges to do _The Joey Bishop Show._ Joe DeRita appeared with the Stooges in a few full length movies in the 60s. He also appeared with them in _It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World._
@@tictactoejoe MeTV is the best channel on freevee. I just wish they had more episodes of _Dragnet._ It's on at five thirty am and six am but they only have like 30 episodes and keep playing the same ones.
I'm a fan of The Three Stooges output from 1934 to 1957. I just watched their first short "The Woman Haters" a few days ago. I'm not a fan of the movies they made in the 1960s with Curly Joe. I know *everybody* loves the original Curly but Shemp is my favorite Stooge.
Woman Haters and Half Wits Holiday are the two shorts I like the least. Idle Roomers was one of my all time favorites; too bad Duke York, the actor who played the Goon went too soon.
In the late 1970s while attending a comicon style convention in Anaheim, CA, I saw Joe Derita sitting with a group of fans, telling stories. I was in awe, actually seeing a Stooge in person, and started listening to what they were talking about. He spotted me, stopped his story, and snarled, "What the hell are you looking at?" I was so shocked I didn't know what to say, and just walked away. That's what he was like in person. While I have always been proud to say that I actually saw a Stooge in person, it wasn't exactly a pleasant experience.
@@markcampbell7554 Believe me - I've been a dealer at many comic conventions and some of these "celebrities" are assholes. Adam West was one and Bernie Kopel (the guy who played the doctor on Love Boat). If you really want to hear the stories...let me know.
I was there, too, and spent most of the day talking with Joe. I'll bet he meant that as a joke, as he was very pleasant to me and a few of my friends. He was very intelligent and articulate and highly opinionated.
Shemp was in "Private Buckaroo" with the Andrews Sisters and "Pittsburgh" with Marlene Dietrich, John Wayne and Randolph Scott. He also starred in his own short films before he replaced Curly in the "Stooges" shorts.
@@RabbiKolakowski Only one full-length fillm with Healy, Moe, and Larry ("Soup to Nuts", 1930) but he had a busy 14-year solo career before he rejoined the Stooges after Curly's stroke.
@@RJFPme he was in a few I think. Africa Screams was interesting because it also had Abbott and Costello regular Joe Besser who later replaced Shemp in the Stooges.
My own preference is Jerry/Curly but it is easy to understand why someone might like Shemp better. I think that is probably boils down to whether or not one likes Curly's manic style.
I wasn't fond of Curly Joe DeRita. As non-family replacement went, I liked Joe Besser, now I know why, he was a kind man with a kind heart. Curly Howard will always be a fan favorite, but I always liked Shemp. He had a cute, childlike quality about him. Thankful for all their comedy. It still holds up today.
Curly Joe and Joe Besser were terrible as the 3rd stooge. They never fit the dynamic, Joe was too effeminate and just plain not funny and Curly Joe was too old
* @@joshuapeele9679 ~> Although much maligned those Moe, Larry & Curly-Joe feature films were Saturday matinee theatrical successes with the kiddy audiences! ☺
CJ had a funny look and was the right height, but not enough in the way of energy or personality. The others had at least a couple, if not many signature quirks.
Moe intended to continue the act after Larry's stroke and with Larry's blessing brought in long time Stooges foil Emil Sitka to take Larry's place as Larry's brother Harry, but Moe's own health problems prevented them from appearing on film. Only a few publicity photos of this incarnation of the Stooges (Moe, Emil as Harry, and Curly Joe) exist. Also, after Shemp's death, Joe DeRita was considered as a replacement at that time. However, he was unable to join due to commitments he had at that time, and Columbia wanted an actor who was already contracted to the studio, which is why Joe Besser replaced Shemp.
@@markdavis9148 God...I love that scene. It's one of the damn BEST...and the telephone booth scene where they are forcing Shemp to call all his old girlfriends. Brilliant. Nothing like the Stooges... Don't forget to gargle with some old razor blades....
Joe DeRita never said anything bad about the Three Stooges at all. In my humble opinion he was truly funny both as a stooge and as a solo performer during his years in burlesque. I like him a lot.
@@7karlheinz yes derita did say in a three stooges movie when you saw a pie on the table you knew what would happen with that pie.but in a laurel and hardy movie when you saw a pie on the table you did not know what would happen to that pie.
I never watch any stooge episodes unless curly is in them. I never warmed up to besser or derita. Shemp was ok, but curly was meant to fill that 3rd position
True! I wonder who that was and when they lived and died. There is a great shot within an episode called the Lion's Mane (?) in which Moe, Larry, and a newly-returned Shemp are gathered around a sleeping Curly (after his stroke and almost unrecognizable due to the hair he let grow on his face) giving us our only glimpse of all four of the three stooges simultaneously in one frame.
@@griffruby8756 The short was Hold that Lion. The fake Shemp was Joe Palma who was Shemp's double. Joe Palma was born in 1905 and died in 1994 (after Joe DeRita died in 1993).
@@griffruby8756 Go to youtube and type in "Fake Shemp" a couple videos explain and show the shorts. Moe and Larry owed Columbia a few more shorts on their contract and they had to improvise--- and improvise they did.
Shemp did not leave the Three Stooges early on because he wanted to start his own career, he left because he had a falling out with Ted Healy, the creator of the Three Stooges. Shemp didn't care for Healy's excessive drinking and his crass style of managing.
@@SeekingmyFreedom No. Shemp Howard never complained about Moe or Jerome-Curly striking him. There is a lot of misinformation here concerning Joe Derita, Shemp.. Derita never "Bad-Mouthed" the Stooges as Tim reported here; as a matter of fact Derita's widow often told talk show hosts such as Mike Douglas, Dick Cavette..,et al, that Joe had nothing but high praise for the Stooges.
Too bad Curly had health issues. I was born in 1953 and I know he died in 1952. More importantly, in 1952 television was in its infancy and not as big as it is today not counting the DVD and internet. Regrettably, he never got to see his impact on the future as he died young. Great, he was in the short with the lion as he appeared with two brothers. Warm regards to you and it is great to remember Curly's legacy. Question and small point, I see they spelled his name with an e and sometimes without, I assume no real significance?
The Three Stooges were a favorite in our house in the 50, 60’s. My older brother was such a fan of Curley Joe, he would always slap his face from the top of his head down to the face making that crazy sound and then would get down on the ground and spin like Curley Joe. Good memories!
@@FactsVerse That's a hard call to make. All their shorts were off the charts hilarious. But my favorite was Hoi Polloi. I can only imagine how impossibly difficult it would have been to try to make the stooges into high society types. That scenario was one with endless comedic possibilities. Just a treasure to watch over and over again. Heil to The Three Stooges as eternal and immortal kings of comedy !!
My first encounter with the Stooges was their cartoons, so Curly Joe was actually the first of the "third" stooges that I saw.. Later when they began showing them on the UHF channels, the first shorts I happen to catch were with Shemp, and I loved him. My Dad told us there was an earlier stooge named "Curly" and then we started seeing the shorts with him. I, like many fans, did not care for Joe Besser's antics as much, but some of them were still tolerable.
My story is similar. When I was a kid, the Besser films were in theaters. I knew NOTHING about the two guys who came before him! Naturally, when TV started showing the Curly and Shemp films, I saw them as the imposters. Weird, I know....
The classic Three Stooges for me will always be Moe, Larry and Curly Howard. I also include Shemp in the classics as well. I never did warm up to either Joe Besser or Joe DeRita.
I personally can give a pass to Joe Besser, at least he tried to not copy Curly or Shemp, the big problem is he was a great commedian in his own right but he wasn't a good Stooge because the slapstick role wasn't for him. And he quit after few shorts when people noticed he didn't work.
I don't recall Joe DeRita ever saying anything about Moe and Larry, but I will say that the Stooges will definitely be missed. They were the best in slap stick comedy and movies ever.
When I was five years old in 1960 I was smart enough to know the difference between Curly Howard and Joe DeRita. I’ve seen interviews with Joe DeRita in his later years and I never heard him badmouth the stooges directly. I think the worst thing he may have said was that he didn’t think they were all that funny but that he enjoyed his time working with them.
Joe DeRita was a gentleman. He said the comedy of the stooges was not a favorite of his, but he liked them all personally, respected them as performers, and enjoyed working with them.
Notice that DeRita shaved his head and thus did look a lot like Curly Howard. This, plus the need to distinguish him from the preceding Stooge called Joe, led to him being called Curly Joe.
Junior_Rocky: Oh noooo! Joe Besser was a genius in his own right. Compare his quirky antics to Curly Joe Derita who just took up space. Curly Joe may have been a nice guy, but that doesn't qualify him as a True Stooge!
I spent an afternoon with Joe DeRita in August 1976 and he described his work with the Stooges as a "pleasant business association." He was also a little embarrassed about the fact that his tenure with the Stooges was by far their most profitable. He said, "Curly and Shemp did all the heavy lifting, and then I came in and got all the gravy."
You lost all credibility when you said they brought in Moe & Shemp's older brother Curly to replace Shemp. Jerome "Curly" Howard was the youngest of the Howard brothers. Shemp was the oldest, then Moe, then 2 other brothers that didn't get into show business. Curly aka Babe, was the youngest brother.
You are right in saying that Curly was the youngest, Shemp was older than Moe and Curly, but of all the five brothers the oldest was Irving, the second was Jack, the third was Shemp, the fourth was Moe and the fifth was Curly.
I loved watching the Three Stooges as a kid and still do. In 1960 I saw them perform in person at an outdoor water show called Aquarama 1960. Curly Joe was the third stooge.I could always tell the difference between Curly and Curly Joe. I still love watching The Three Stooges.
I think Besser got a raw deal. He was never really given a chance to carve his own niche because Jules White, the main producer of the latter Stooge shorts, kept retreading Curly and Shemp shorts with Joe haphazardly shoehorned in. When they finally started making new stories for the boys, it was too little too late. The plots came off as absurd, sweaty, and cumbersome.
@@randysmith9841 Oh, I really agree. Watching him in any movie or TV program just makes me cringe. It's amazing how long a career Besser had when he was so unfunny.
I remember my mother taking my sister and I to a live performance in Seattle around 1959 or 1960. I was extremely disappointed when I realized that Curly Howard wasn’t performing with them, and this hack Curly Joe was on stage instead. Then I cried all the way home when my mom told me Curly Howard had died years before. “…but I just saw him on TV the day before…!”
Yes, I agree with those who say Shemp was the most talented all round actor/comedian of them all. Moe and Larry were wonderful 'types', but did not really branch out (tho' Moe tried). And, by all accounts, Shemp was the most outgoing and friend connected as well. Curly, of course, was a comic genius; one of the greatest of the 20th century. Poor Joe DeRita came along when they were aging, so the slapstick was toned down as much for that as for kids. DeRita was really just a goofy guy, and following 3 very distinctive personalities, he was rather tepid. Perhaps this was why he was a bit bitter later-tho' you really do not give any examples of that here. Even then, he must have been grateful for a pretty good income for at least a decade as the 3ed Stooge.
I love the Stooges till this day, but I liked the Shemp era the most, Curly was great but many of those episodes the boys were almost like vaudeville characters/actors, they tried to act too seriously as if they were thespians on a broadway stage, it wasn’t until later they became just funnier and sillier and evolved into the goofballs they portrayed, it was all good but the Shemp era was funnier to me because they didn’t take the acting too seriously IMHO
@@CurlysGrandson Yes he was. The contrast of bossy authority of Moe with the child naivety of Curly and the everyman Larry was an ideal combination. BTW I sent some sharpened pictures you may like.
Born in 1958, I didn't start watching the 3 Stooges until 1965. I enjoyed all of their shorts and I'm watching them every night now, time shifted. I liked that Joe Besser stepped in and by 1968 Curly Joe was the 3rd Stooge in the 3 Stooges Cartoons and intros. Again, keeping the 3 Stooges alive, I was grateful for Joe DaRita. I know Emil Sitka was considered as the 3rd Stooge and I think because I saw him in so many other roles in the 3 Stooges shorts, I couldn't get on board with him being the 3rd Stooge. Besides, that would've left a gap in the supporting cast. He, Bud Jamison and Vernon Dent were so important to the shorts as were Ken McDonald and the myriad of both Male and Female players who were the Foils and the Wives or GFs. Having somebody new was the only way to go. I'm glad they did.
I recall where I was at when I heard that Curly Joe had passed away and the reporter said that Curly Joe thought that his time as a Stooge was some of his fondest memories.
I'm fairly certain Curly Joe was always positive about his time with the Stooges. He just didn't personally find their style of comedy funny. That's why their style changed a bit in the later years. (that, and due to their ages) The slapstick was toned down and it became wittier. The jokes became the dialogue and situations - rather than physical. And I think a lot of that had to do with Curly Joe. Granted, from day 1 the Stooges were always very witty. There's dialogue and written humor and turn-of-phrases in just about every short - from signs to episode names. But under Curly Joe they emphasized it and toned down the violence.
Curly was the youngest Howard brother. Shemp (Samuel) was born in 1895, Moe (Moses) in 1897 and Curly (Jerome) in 1903. The two Joes were both younger than Curly.
So where was the bad mouthing? Interesting little mini documentary but misleading title. It seems that curly Joe mimicked both curly and shemp at various points in his career and in both cases using a shaved head and long stringy greasy hair as a prop. Shemp was always my favorite because of the way his hair would mess up after a slap as well as the fact that he was also willing to stand up to moe from time to time
It’s obnoxious when people attack the thing that made them “famous” and paid for their house and car. If you hate it so much, give your residual checks to charity.
I remember him best in Snow White and the Three Stooges, The Three Stooges meet Hercules, and The Three Stooges Goes Around the World in a Daze. He was my third favorite third stooge next to Curly and Shemp respectively.
In the seventies I read a book in which Moe stated that Derita, wanting to pursue more serious work, left the Stooges to "make a western". In the truly mean spirited western, The Bravados (1958), Derita has a serious (uncredited) role as a bogus hangman who knifes a sheriff in the back and is then immediately shot to death for his troubles. Hilarious, when one thinks about it. Terrific western, by the way.
@@eugenekozma2697 Although brief, Derita's performance is memorable. There is immediately something "off" about his character that makes us (and Gregory Peck) distrust him.
@@geraldmartin7703 I never saw the movie I must admit.but on TH-cam a few years ago I listened to a radio interview he gave on a Pittsburgh radio station and he said his role in the bravados was his favorite.
I grew up on every Stooge except for Joe Besser. I actually thought Curly Joe was Curly as a kid lol. But once I learned they weren't the same I still didn't mind Curly Joe.
There isn't a Shemp Shuffle, there isn't a Moe Shuffle, or a Larry Shuffle! Curly Howard is the greatest comedic actor of all time. Yes, there is the Curly Shuffle! Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk, why certainly, lottie dee hottie dee!
I saw the 3 Stooges (with Joe DeRita) at Steel Pier in Atlantic City, NJ in 1960 at the age of 8. Must have made quite an impression, because 62 years later, at the age of 70, it is still memorable. And the video (Super 8) my mother took of the 4 of us is a prize possession.
I've always wondered who spoke for the Stooges at the dedication of their Star on the Walk of Fame. From this video I learned it was Joe Besser. He had lost a lot of weight and it was hard to recognize him but he used the same pattern of speech, in my opinion.
shemp was my instant favorite after curlys untimely passing, not once did shemp ever in any way try to be curly or do what curly did, he had a vision of true comedy , i cant say the same on curly joe obviously he was always complaining backstage on the abuse by moe n larry, it was the whole deal joe hah yes they did their own stunts at times a bit rough
@@-oiiio-3993 that was Joe Besser's trademark characterization of himself, though. He was very popular in film, radio and television and carried over that well-known, comedic persona into his own series of two-reel comedies at Columbia (which lead to Jules White bringing him on board with Moe and Larry). Folks may not like Besser as a Stooge, but it would have never worked if White had tried to develop a different character for him.
I saw "The Three Stooges" live in 1963 when they made a personal appearance at our local movie theater for their movie "The Three Stooges Go Around the World in a Daze"! I was 16 & surprised at how short they were & looked older, but otherwise the same! It was great fun to see them in person, but wished that the 'real' Curly could have lived to be there! R.I.P. & Love to "The Three Stooges" et al!
Yes I recall when seeing both Snow White and The Three Stooges as well as the Three Stooges meet Hercules how I actual did mistake Curly Joe for Curly.
To say that Curly-Joe "bad-mouthed the Stooges" is dishonest. If he hated working with them, would he have kept doing it for 12 years? Sure, he said that he wasn't really a fan of their brand of comedy. But he always maintained that he enjoyed his time as a Stooge and working with Moe and Larry. That's not bad-mouthing as I understand it.
In all fairness, Joe DeRita had a very tough act to follow. The reality is that his performance as a Stooge could not hold a candle to that of his predecessor, "The Real" Curley Howard, and the fans were not fooled.
Many thanks for the enlightening pre-Stooge history of DeRita - I think he added a gentleness to their work plus was good at pratfalls as can be seen with their live TV appearances. (Didn't DeRita try to put the Stooges back into action ?) In defense of Besser - his hyper-energetic and violent slapstick work as "Stinky" the obnoxious man-child was extremely funny on the Abbott and Costello TV series. (Did the great Wallace Beery help liberate the Stooges ?)
I really liked the Three Stooges and so did my parents especially my Dad he always watched them when they were on Television. I liked their "Have Rocket Will Travel" I have it on DVD and have watched it a number of times. I always thought Joe did a great job on the Stooges.He played the part well in my opinion. How he actually felt about the Stooges I didn't know till now!!
@@eugenekozma2697 I fully agree. I feel Joe did a really excellent job on the Three Stooges. He was comic in his role which worked well with how the Three Stooges always were.
I worked the New 3 Stooges as a child. Was on camera from time to time and was there for all the live work. Boy do I have some stories! Your question is do I remember Joe DeRita? Very Fondly!!!
I know he was there but sorry to say didn't think much of of him or Joe Besser. Curly Howard was always my favorite with Shemp my 2nd after Shemp Moe and Larry should have called it quits. Just my opinion. Have a great day everyone.
I Tried And Tried And Tried To Like Joe De Rita, Over And Over I Gave Every Chance To Give The Benefit Of The Doubt But Joe De Rita Was The Worst Stooge All Due Respects!!!
Curly Joe wasn't funny and Joe Besser wasn't much better. Moe, Larry, Curly and Shemp are hysterical. God bless them for the endless entertainment they have provided. Thanks for this post; it was mist informative.
I have the complete series on DVD. Having earlier read of Joe Besser having in his contract that he wouldn’t endure the physical abuse that Curly and later Shemp, had to endure, I assumed that Joe Besser, would be totally disappointing. I was surprised at how wrong I was. Maybe he wasn’t the best fit but he was funny. Curly Joe was funny but since he looked so much like Curly, everyone expected him to be just like Curly, forgetting that they weren’t as young as they were when they started with “Women Haters” (1934).
One fact that is omitted about Joe DeRita that might be posted here is that he made a rare dramatic appearance as the bogus hangman in Henry King's 1958 western The Bravados with Gregory Peck.
Well one has to be a little sympathetic to Joe DeRita. When he joined the Stooges their early stuff was being shown on TV with kids being able to see them. A lot of Parents and Social groups wanted the Stooges to tone down the slapstick and physical humor.
The phone booth scene with Shemp and Moe one of the funniest ever. Joe DiRita was a harmless, vaguely funny fill-in. Joe Besser’s effeminate persona was pretty funny.
I heard it was Joe Besser who was a difficult, temperamental character when off stage and often refused to do certain scenes. And I heard that JoeDeRita would do the best he could at what he was asked to do.
Joe Besser didn't want to be hit so Larry volunteered to take most of the punishment. Emil Sitka recalled that sometimes Curly Joe would get testy while filming the live action wrap-arounds to the cartoons. Joe DeRita probably fit the Stooges better at this point of the career than Joe Besser would have - Larry Wolff.
I was a little kid in the 60's and watched the re-runs. I (we) fully knew that Curly Joe was not our beloved Curly. Shaving the head was not enough. It did not fool us. Just wanted to point that out. I always liked Shemp too. Besser was too much of a whiner. // Oh about Derita - forgettable.
Did the narrator say Curly was Moe and Shemp's older brother? If so, he was incorrect, as Curly was younger than both of them. Personally, I liked Joe DeRita. He wasn't up to the standards of Curly or Shemp, but I thought he was better than Joe Besser. Like him or not, his days with them were the height of the Stooges' popularity.
I just saw the video for Sitka, thanks! Doesn't matter the line-ups, Moe, Larry, Shemp, Curly, Joe, Curly Joe, Emil, Christine and all the excellent main and supporting crew, made the Stooges great! woo! woo! woo! eeb! eeb! eeb!
GREAT Call Christopher!!👊🍻, Yes...."The Firemen" Cameo!!....Also, My FAV' Flick of All-Time....My Girl & I got the opportunity to watch the SPECIAL/RELEASE RESTORED (& GORGEOUS PRINT!!) "Original CinemaScope: Cut of the Film at the Original Big-Screen Theater House here in our Tranquil So Cal' Beach Town around (20) some Years ago.....So...We Sparked up a Doobie of "The Kill...Kill"...B-4 Going in (& with Only about (15) others in this HUGE GRAND Cinema House in attendance) & even though I'd seen the Movie around (10-12) Times (T.V./Cassette) thru the Years since seeing it as a YOUNGSTER at the Theater in Detroit in (1963-4) w/My Dad, WE (She was a few Years Younger than I & had never seen it, though She had a GREAT Sense of Humor & LOVED to Laugh etc) LAUGHED OUR GUTS OUT from the FIRST Scene of " Smiler Grogan" (The Perfect Jimmy Durante') "Over the Cliff/Bucket Kick" Start to the "Mrs. Marcus" (The Wonderful Ethel Merman) "Banana Peel Bloomers Slip" Brilliant End".....Such a WONDERFUL Life Memory FOREVER!!.....🤣🥰
Joel to robots: "Who was your favorite Stooge?" Cambot: "Joe Besser". Crow: "Joe DeRita". In fairness to them both, you should know Joe Besser stepped in only as a favor. By that time, the budgets and production time for their shorts had been greatly reduced, plus Moe and Larry were getting up in years. Also, they were merely making the shorts to fulfill their contracts, knew it was probably the end for them, and didn't realize at the time that TV would make them greatly viable later. As for DeRita, by the time he joined, due to protests by parents, the Stooges had tempered their violent antics and slapstick down a great deal. Also, again, they were truly getting up in years and simply not as fast as in their earlier days. This especially seemed to be true for Moe. So there you have it, and I'm another one who has listened to a couple of lengthy interviews with Joe DeRita and never heard him put down his former partners.
Moe was actually about 5 years older than Larry. Larry, incidentally, was the same age as Curly Howard. Shemp was the oldest Stooge being 2 years older than Moe.
Very true, and of course, Shemp, Jerome and Moe were brothers, so they just naturally worked better together and also had more years of experience working as a trio.
Joe derita was an assett to the stooges in their final years.he had a relaxed style that served the act well.larry and moe were getting older and could not handle that energetic over the top comedy like in the stooges early days.joe Derita was a wise addition.
If you want to know why Shemp left the 3 stooges, it was partly if not totally due the stooges boss Ted Healy. He wasn’t the nicest guy in the world, especially after consuming adult beverages particularly in excess! It’s said that Joe Besser wasn’t keen on the Stooges brand of slapstick, but in interviews he seemed to enjoy the time spent with Moe and Larry. The same could also be said about Mr. Dorita , he had short subject experience and even looked like Curly with his hair cut real short. Why bad mouth the dead? I think we all remember all the 3 Stooges fondly so let’s lighten up!
@@comedyshorts2 Whenever Rich Koz in Chicago would show Besser shorts on Stooge-a-Palooza he got hate mail for it. You have to see the 1949 Abbott & Costello movie Africa Screams Joe Besser and Shemp Howard were in it. I always preferred Derita over Besser.
@@comedyshorts2 Besser was the worst, because he didn't even try to tailor his comedy to fit the Stooges' act. He just kept doing the same unfunny crap he did on "Abbott and Costello" and elsewhere.
Are you a fan of the Three Stooges?
Check this out: th-cam.com/play/PLkXAntdjbcSKy_zuLfln7gbrOQYOv2ga9.html
I'm not subscribing if you can't put up honest titles I'm out if here ....
Yes, i remember him
I've been a fan since I was a kid.
@@marieclaire4935 Same here! the title is grossly inaccurate and very unfair to Curly Joe!
I've been a Ted Healy fan since the early 1970s, and I
collected up to 5 of his movies .
He did NOT bad-mouth the Stooges. He said he didn't particularly like their type of comedy, but he always said, "Moe and Larry were the best". That is not really bad-mouthing.
Exactly.
He was actually the third stooge that I remember the most
Mostly because I had two of the movies on vhs that I’d play over and over
And he was the third stooge in most or all of the movies made in the 60s
@@UnlicensedOkie DeRita was the only 3rd Stooge (not counting TV reruns of the classic shorts) in everything they produced -- feature films, TV cartoon segments, audio records, comic books, TV commercials, talk shows, live appearance tours -- from 1958 to 1970.
@@papagreenemusic I knew he was for all of the movies. Good to know 👍
@@UnlicensedOkie
If he didn't like the work, the scripts, or the other Stooges, or vice-versa, or anything to do with it at all, the pay or whatever, on the background of such an allegedly negative & cynical attitude as expressed here, he would never have worked with them so steadily for 12 years straight.
Looks like the only 'bad-mouthing' to be found over here is against Curly Joe himself by whomever thought up the title of this video.
Btw, as a Stooge devotee for 60 years now, I'm probably one of a very small minority of fans whose favorite Stooge has always been LARRY!
Correction: Jerome "Curly" Howard was the BABY of the three Howard brothers who played Stooges. Shemp was born in 1895, Moe in 1897, and Curly in 1903.
Thank you. I caught that too.
Moe called Curly "Jackie" in Woman Haters.
They called him Babe.
@@tonystracener9078 Whoob WHOOB whoob,,,,how do I know for SOYtin if you or Idchappll is right.
So…Shemp Howard was the oldest.
I consider Shemp the most talented stooge. He was successful outside of the trio. He could also play straight as well as a comic.
Great uncle Shemp was such a talented character actor and his performances in Abbott and Costello’s movies and WC Fields were hilarious!!
Yes I agree shemp was talented.i read that Lou costello knew that with shemps expert comic timing he could steal a movie.i read that when costello found out that shemp was going to be in a movie with him and Abbott costello would have shemps part cut down so he would not steal the movie from Abbott and costello.i saw Africa screams when I was 14 years old.shemp played a similar role a few years before in a blondie movie.
@@CurlysGrandson Fields at a local bar : "Was I in here last night and did I spend a twenty dollar bill?" bartender Shemp "Yeah". Fields : "What a load off my mind, I thought I lost it".
BTW - he did a film with Olsen and Johnson and Shemp stole the show.
@@CurlysGrandson hi Bradley, cool you are here, your youtube channel is great, I recently subscribed and I like the three stooges, your grandfather Curly Howard is a legend, your great uncle Moe Howard along with Larry Fine are icons, Joe Derita and Joe Besser did a good job and I love your great uncle Shemp Howard so much, he was amazing. I wish there was an impersonation of Shemp on your channel, I've seen it with Curly, Moe, Larry and Curly G and they're awesome, but I miss Shemp, who knows, maybe he'll appear on your channel too, it would be fantastic. Bradley Server was a pleasure to see you here and I wish you much success.
@@CurlysGrandson Remember when he turned up as a con man in a Sidney Toler Charlie Chan film, pretending to be an Indian swami? 😄
Narrator: "Curly Joe DeRita was the most hated Stooge ever!"
Joe Besser: "Hold my beer! NOT SO HARD!!!"
Curly Howard: "Look at the grouse! Look at the grouse!"
Besser's 'Joe' with the Three Stooges was far too whiny.
Thinking the same thing. Curly Joe was ok, kinda forgettable, but that's way better than whiny Joe Besser. He was the worst.
@@andypritchard9644 Always thought he was gay, or at least it sounded like he was, the way he talked, that annoying whiny voice, lol🤣🤣🤣
Joe Besser was never funny at all.
I don’t get it. So WHEN did Joe Derita badmouth the stooges? You give a history of the group but never evidence of badmouthing. I’ve never heard of that before.
I was wondering the same thing.
This guy intentionally misrepresents all his videos like this...
I thought the same thing. It doesn't make any sense.
If it ain't Moe, Larry and Curly it ain't the 3 stooges...period!
@@kabbey30 Well Shemp was very good also, I mean I think he's right there with Curly, as a kid I didn't think so, but years later I thought about it more and he was pretty funny in his own way.
Please get your facts straight. Curly was the Youngest of the Howard brothers not the oldest. Shemp was the oldest.
SOITENLY!
@@CurlysGrandson Hey Curly's Grandson, we got us a wisenheimer here!! Nyuk Nyuk!!!! La da deeeeeee!!
Actually it went Irving, Jack, Shemp, Moe and Curly.
Sorry wrong. Shemp (Samuel) was the third oldest Of the Horowitz brothers. Then Moses (moe) and Jerome (Curly) was the baby. You should take your own advice.
@@marcgoff7881 I was referring to The Three Stooges. Not brothers who are unknowns.
Nothing against Curly Joe or Joe Besser, but when Curly and Shemp Howard died,I just couldn’t watch them anymore.😢
“ NOT SO HARRRRRD “ !!
Remember that from Curly Joe ??
That guy always annoyed me .
Anytime the stooges came on , as soon as I realized that Curly or Shemp were not in the episode, I turned it off .
The original 2 ( Shemp and Curly ) were one of a kind .
That’s the Three Stooges !!
On a side note - I had no idea that Shemp was before Curly .
I always thought the original 3 were Moe Larry and Curly .
Definitely my favorite out of all .
Happy Thanksgiving 🦃
Cause Curly Joe simply wasn’t funny. He was TERRIBLE!
@@nashvillecop1 Amen to that !!
That was the biggest mistake of the Stooge franchise.
It would of been better with just Moe and Larry by themselves.
I know that must of been really trying to find a replacement of Shemp and Curly….
But this guy ???
What were they thinking 🤔
@@nashvillecop1
You’re absolutely right.
You must be 110 years old.
Shemp was always my favorite...when Curly & Shemp died, that's the end of the Stooges for me...
Larry, Moe, Curly, and Shemp were funny, entertaining, and talented. Joe Besser and Joe DeRita didn't cut it for me.
Agreed...🖖🏿😎👍🏿
Agreed
For me too.
Gee, I thought they started out as Shemp and Moe and that Shemp discovered Larry in Chicago.
Shemp actually left the act in 1932 because he was sick and tired of his boss, Ted Healy's, heavy drinking and cruel practical jokes that he played on him, so he left to go solo, and was replaced with Curly.
Shemp also had what would have been diagnosed today as bipolar disorder. Ted Healy's "teasing, " was hard for him to take. All the Howards suffered from clinic depression, as verified by family members. It's ironic; the Stooges are remembered for the comic geniuses they were, but unless you're a Stooges fan, no one remembers Ted Healy!
@@debrahubbard763 How do you know?
@ Kevin Miller Larry Fine wrote a book about being a stooge. Also, Mel Gibson did a documentary about them.
@@debrahubbard763considering all the physical abuse that The 3 Stooges had to endure, it’s amazing that they ended up “only bipolar”. Anyone else would’ve “gone totally postal” and got locked up in a padded cell.
Half of Larry’s face was calloused from all the slaps he had to endure during his career.
In “Brideless Groom” (1947), Christine McIntyre was required to slap Shemp. But being such a sweet lady, she only gave him a light slap. So shemp told her to hit him hard, telling her that one take with a hard slap would be less painful than doing that same take over and over again. So she let him have it and knocked him across the room.
@@debrahubbard763 Healy was allegedly beaten so severely by actor Wally Beery and two mobbed up Hollywood producers, Albert Brocolli and Pat DiCicco, in the parking lot of the Trocadero in December of 1937 that he later died from inflicted wounds.
It is possible / likely, however that Healy's death was the direct result of his habitual and copious consumption of alcohol.
Not one single piece of evidence that Curly Joe said anything disparaging about the time he spent as part of the Three Stooges...I don't think that is right to create content on a subject that you can't offer proof of said content.....This then just becomes click bait...F.V. I always thought you had higher standards than this.
I agree, l have never seen any evidence of what is being claimed.
Yep. Total BS title. Big down vote for FV on this one.
Your right.
In my own experience, I have found Hollywood to be despicable in all regards.
Tim is the biggest liar on You Tube!
@@lamontbradford4630 Just for this clip.
I always thought Curly Howard was the funniest. He bordered on genius.
Curly was the funniest, most entertaining stooge. He was my favorite.
@@mainecoon6514 same but however he would later be in bad health sadly
He was a genius. No one even close to him before.
All the Stooges were great, but Curly was a genius.
My Favorite
WIKI: Paul Albert "Mousie" Garner (July 31, 1909 - August 8, 2004)
Mousie Garner and the Three Stooges
Stage star Ted Healy worked with three rowdy stooges (showbiz slang for "assistants"): Moe Howard, Larry Fine, and Shemp Howard (and later Curly Howard). When Howard, Fine, and Howard chose to work on their own, first in 1930 and later in 1934 as "The Three Stooges", Healy promptly replaced them with three new stooges. Mousie Garner worked alongside his cousin, Jack Wolf (father of Warner Wolf) and Richard "Dick" Hakins between 1922 and 1936.[1] Mousie Garner continued working on stage and on screen with Dick Hakins, and either his cousin Jack Wolf or Wolf's replacement, Sammy Wolfe, in a musical comedy trio known as The Gentlemaniacs (aka: Garner, Wolf [or Wolfe] and Hakins) throughout the 1920s and '30s. The Gentlemaniacs starred in several feature films and short subjects including After the Show (1929), Swing It, Professor (1937), The Hit Parade (1937), Murder With Reservations (1938) and Radio and Relatives (1940). Garner, however, almost became one of the Three Stooges for two occasions.
According to Garner's autobiography, after Shemp Howard died suddenly in November 1955, Moe Howard and Larry Fine wanted Garner to join them in 1956, but Garner was then under contract to Spike Jones as a musical comedian with Jones's band, the City Slickers. Despite Moe Howard pleading his case to Jones personally, Jones would not release Garner; Joe Besser would eventually replace Shemp in 1956.[1] The claim in Garner's autobiography can not be accepted as a whole truth since a similar story can be found in Moe's autobiography, but with Joe DeRita as the protagonist instead of Garner and Harold Minsky instead of Jones.[4] After Besser quit the act in 1958, Larry suggested Garner again as a potential replacement and he and Moe would later rehearse with Garner. However, based on his tryout performance, Moe later remarked that Garner was "completely unacceptable" to the act. Joe DeRita would instead become the "third stooge" in October 1958. Nevertheless, in the early 1970s, DeRita, with Moe's blessing, would invite Garner and Frank Mitchell to join the "New Three Stooges" act, filling in for the ailing Larry and Moe, respectively.[5]
He came to a few of our Stooge conventions!
Just a little side note, Moe wanted Mantan Moreland as the replacement for Shemp. But Columbia did not agree!
Moreland wouldfui
Columbia thought a white man smacking a black man wouldn't have been taken well. They may have been right, but Mantan was funnier than both Joe Besser and Joe DeRita in their stooge roles and I think it would have brought new life to the team - Larry Wolff
I can see that working.
@@joanwolff4343 That was one of the problems Columbia had. But Moe was thinking of all the new possibilities for the stooges with Mantan.
There is zero truth to the Mantan Moreland story.
I rarely get to watch "The Three Stooges"; when I DO watch them, they always have Moe, Larry and either Shemp or Curly...NOT Curly Joe deRita.
Curly Joe was not in any of the Columbia shorts The Three Stooges made from 1934 to 1957. Joe DeRita came on the scene after Joe Besser quit the Three Stooges to do _The Joey Bishop Show._ Joe DeRita appeared with the Stooges in a few full length movies in the 60s. He also appeared with them in _It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World._
Agreed
@@ldchappell1 As well as the 'wraparound' fill in sections of the 1960s Three Stooges cartoon show.
metv. Saturdays from 6 to 8
@@tictactoejoe MeTV is the best channel on freevee. I just wish they had more episodes of _Dragnet._ It's on at five thirty am and six am but they only have like 30 episodes and keep playing the same ones.
I'm a fan of The Three Stooges output from 1934 to 1957. I just watched their first short "The Woman Haters" a few days ago.
I'm not a fan of the movies they made in the 1960s with Curly Joe. I know *everybody* loves the original Curly but Shemp is my favorite Stooge.
Shemp is my favorite too.
I love Curly too....but Shemp shorts rock....I find him almost equal to Curly....and in some ways, better.
Shemp was naturally funny and was the actor. He was so funny they cut him out of an Abbott and Costello film.
Woman Haters and Half Wits Holiday are the two shorts I like the least. Idle Roomers was one of my all time favorites; too bad Duke York, the actor who played the Goon went too soon.
Walter Brennan played the train conductor in Woman Haters.
In the late 1970s while attending a comicon style convention in Anaheim, CA, I saw Joe Derita sitting with a group of fans, telling stories. I was in awe, actually seeing a Stooge in person, and started listening to what they were talking about. He spotted me, stopped his story, and snarled, "What the hell are you looking at?" I was so shocked I didn't know what to say, and just walked away. That's what he was like in person. While I have always been proud to say that I actually saw a Stooge in person, it wasn't exactly a pleasant experience.
Sounds like he was a prick.....I was never impressed with the guy frankly.
Sorry to hear he was so unpleasant. That definitely would ruin it for me.
@@markcampbell7554 Believe me - I've been a dealer at many comic conventions and some of these "celebrities" are assholes. Adam West was one and Bernie Kopel (the guy who played the doctor on Love Boat). If you really want to hear the stories...let me know.
I was there, too, and spent most of the day talking with Joe. I'll bet he meant that as a joke, as he was very pleasant to me and a few of my friends. He was very intelligent and articulate and highly opinionated.
Shemp was in "Private Buckaroo" with the Andrews Sisters and "Pittsburgh" with Marlene Dietrich, John Wayne and Randolph Scott. He also starred in his own short films before he replaced Curly in the "Stooges" shorts.
He also was before Curly as mentioned on the video but only one movie
@@RabbiKolakowski Only one full-length fillm with Healy, Moe, and Larry ("Soup to Nuts", 1930) but he had a busy 14-year solo career before he rejoined the Stooges after Curly's stroke.
@@rongarrett1366 yes
He had a small part in a Abbot and Costello movie called African Screams where he payed Gunner . Gunner was a nearsighted hunter in this movie.
@@RJFPme he was in a few I think. Africa Screams was interesting because it also had Abbott and Costello regular Joe Besser who later replaced Shemp in the Stooges.
Might be in minority here but Shemp was my favorite 3rd Stooge.
Shemp is my favorite.
My own preference is Jerry/Curly but it is easy to understand why someone might like Shemp better. I think that is probably boils down to whether or not one likes Curly's manic style.
I love Curly, but I am also a Shemp man.
My father liked Larry the best. I liked Mo, after all every construction is led by a Mo, and I am a Painting Contractor.
@@patrickfennell6372 I’m with Your father, Larry just cracked me up👍
I wasn't fond of Curly Joe DeRita. As non-family replacement went, I liked Joe Besser, now I know why, he was a kind man with a kind heart. Curly Howard will always be a fan favorite, but I always liked Shemp. He had a cute, childlike quality about him. Thankful for all their comedy. It still holds up today.
I'd rather have the Stooges running our country than the two dolts we have now.....
Curly Joe and Joe Besser were terrible as the 3rd stooge. They never fit the dynamic, Joe was too effeminate and just plain not funny and Curly Joe was too old
* @@joshuapeele9679 ~> Although much maligned those Moe, Larry & Curly-Joe feature films were Saturday matinee theatrical successes with the kiddy audiences! ☺
CJ had a funny look and was the right height, but not enough in the way of energy or personality. The others had at least a couple, if not many signature quirks.
Curly Joe was a bit older, as they all were at that point, so it would be unreasonable to expect the same antics from the earlier days.
Moe intended to continue the act after Larry's stroke and with Larry's blessing brought in long time Stooges foil Emil Sitka to take Larry's place as Larry's brother Harry, but Moe's own health problems prevented them from appearing on film. Only a few publicity photos of this incarnation of the Stooges (Moe, Emil as Harry, and Curly Joe) exist. Also, after Shemp's death, Joe DeRita was considered as a replacement at that time. However, he was unable to join due to commitments he had at that time, and Columbia wanted an actor who was already contracted to the studio, which is why Joe Besser replaced Shemp.
Love Sitka....damn that man was funny as hell......
@@dancalmpeaceful3903 `"Hold hands you lovebirds"
@@markdavis9148 God...I love that scene. It's one of the damn BEST...and the telephone booth scene where they are forcing Shemp to call all his old girlfriends. Brilliant. Nothing like the Stooges... Don't forget to gargle with some old razor blades....
@@dancalmpeaceful3903 "BOYZ.....BOYZ"......Agree Comic GENIUS in his Own right dancalm!!👊💥
@@Slamit88 Oh good one...now you got me in the mood to watch some vintage Shemp stooges!
Joe DeRita never said anything bad about the Three Stooges at all. In my humble opinion he was truly funny both as a stooge and as a solo performer during his years in burlesque. I like him a lot.
Me too I adore Joe derita.
@Josh DownhamI did read him saying that he thought laurel and hardy were more witty than the three stooges.
@@eugenekozma2697 Which deserves a big Duh!
@@7karlheinz yes derita did say in a three stooges movie when you saw a pie on the table you knew what would happen with that pie.but in a laurel and hardy movie when you saw a pie on the table you did not know what would happen to that pie.
I never watch any stooge episodes unless curly is in them. I never warmed up to besser or derita. Shemp was ok, but curly was meant to fill that 3rd position
The Stooges were cool. Best line: Moe slaps Larry awake and tells him "Wake up and go to sleep!"
There was a 7th Stooge.------------ The fake Shemp
True! I wonder who that was and when they lived and died. There is a great shot within an episode called the Lion's Mane (?) in which Moe, Larry, and a newly-returned Shemp are gathered around a sleeping Curly (after his stroke and almost unrecognizable due to the hair he let grow on his face) giving us our only glimpse of all four of the three stooges simultaneously in one frame.
@@griffruby8756 The short was Hold that Lion. The fake Shemp was Joe Palma who was Shemp's double. Joe Palma was born in 1905 and died in 1994 (after Joe DeRita died in 1993).
@@griffruby8756 Go to youtube and type in "Fake Shemp" a couple videos explain and show the shorts. Moe and Larry owed Columbia a few more shorts on their contract and they had to improvise--- and improvise they did.
It was funny hearing joe palma try to imitate shemp's beebeebee. He didn't get it right
@@markcornish2519 UH HUH.
Shemp did not leave the Three Stooges early on because he wanted to start his own career, he left because he had a falling out with Ted Healy, the creator of the Three Stooges.
Shemp didn't care for Healy's excessive drinking and his crass style of managing.
I thought Shemp left because he had a problem being hit by Moe. He thought Moe hit way too hard.
@@SeekingmyFreedom No. Shemp Howard never complained about Moe or Jerome-Curly striking him.
There is a lot of misinformation here concerning Joe Derita, Shemp..
Derita never "Bad-Mouthed" the Stooges as Tim reported here; as a matter of fact Derita's widow often told talk show hosts such as Mike Douglas, Dick Cavette..,et al, that Joe had nothing but high praise for the Stooges.
THANK YOU for calling Ted the creator of the Stooges, and at the same time I will always - ALWAYS call them Healy's
Stooges. 😊
Grandpa Curly was the YOUNGEST of the Howard brothers. NOT Moe and Shemp’s older brother
Too bad Curly had health issues. I was born in 1953 and I know he died in 1952. More importantly, in 1952 television was in its infancy and not as big as it is today not counting the DVD and internet. Regrettably, he never got to see his impact on the future as he died young. Great, he was in the short with the lion as he appeared with two brothers. Warm regards to you and it is great to remember Curly's legacy. Question and small point, I see they spelled his name with an e and sometimes without, I assume no real significance?
Patriarch Solomon Horwitz and matriarch Jennie produced a lineage that will never be forgotten. ♥️
You are being investigated for proof of that.
@@rogertemple7193 Easy to find proof! :)
@@edwynnkelley136 AGREED!! :)
The Three Stooges were a favorite in our house in the 50, 60’s. My older brother was such a fan of Curley Joe, he would always slap his face from the top of his head down to the face making that crazy sound and then would get down on the ground and spin like Curley Joe. Good memories!
That was Curly Howard. Not Curly Joe. Shemp and Curly were both great. Different. But great.
Thank you for sharing your life story. Yes, definitely good memories! What is your favorite Three Stooges episode?
@@FactsVerse That's a hard call to make. All their shorts were off the charts hilarious. But my favorite was Hoi Polloi. I can only imagine how impossibly difficult it would have been to try to make the stooges into high society types. That scenario was one with endless comedic possibilities. Just a treasure to watch over and over again. Heil to The Three Stooges as eternal and immortal kings of comedy !!
L.O.L!!!
After Shemp died, the act really went down. Curly Joe wasn't funny.
My first encounter with the Stooges was their cartoons, so Curly Joe was actually the first of the "third" stooges that I saw.. Later when they began showing them on the UHF channels, the first shorts I happen to catch were with Shemp, and I loved him. My Dad told us there was an earlier stooge named "Curly" and then we started seeing the shorts with him. I, like many fans, did not care for Joe Besser's antics as much, but some of them were still tolerable.
I thought Joe Besser was a very funny man, particularly when he was with Abbott and Costello. But he never really fit that well as a Stooge.
My story is similar. When I was a kid, the Besser films were in theaters. I knew NOTHING about the two guys who came before him! Naturally, when TV started showing the Curly and Shemp films, I saw them as the imposters. Weird, I know....
The classic Three Stooges for me will always be Moe, Larry and Curly Howard. I also include Shemp in the classics as well. I never did warm up to either Joe Besser or Joe DeRita.
We love all of them! Thank you for watching our content. Be on the lookout for our next video!
I agree! Joe Besser to me was the worst!
Joe and Curly Joe both sucked and weren't even funny
I never did and never will.
I personally can give a pass to Joe Besser, at least he tried to not copy Curly or Shemp, the big problem is he was a great commedian in his own right but he wasn't a good Stooge because the slapstick role wasn't for him. And he quit after few shorts when people noticed he didn't work.
I don't recall Joe DeRita ever saying anything about Moe and Larry, but I will say that the Stooges will definitely be missed. They were the best in slap stick comedy and movies ever.
When I was five years old in 1960 I was smart enough to know the difference between Curly Howard and Joe DeRita. I’ve seen interviews with Joe DeRita in his later years and I never heard him badmouth the stooges directly. I think the worst thing he may have said was that he didn’t think they were all that funny but that he enjoyed his time working with them.
Not that funny??? Woi oy otta...
It's true he did say that the stooges were not that funny.he felt laurel and hardy were more witty.
Joe DeRita was a gentleman. He said the comedy of the stooges was not a favorite of his, but he liked them all personally, respected them as performers, and enjoyed working with them.
Notice that DeRita shaved his head and thus did look a lot like Curly Howard. This, plus the need to distinguish him from the preceding Stooge called Joe, led to him being called Curly Joe.
Such attention to detail, thank you for sharing this interesting information! Who is your favorite Stooge?
I will have to pick Joe “Stinky” Besser as the WORST STOOGE EVER!!!
Joe Besser is pathetically bad. There's no contest.
Junior_Rocky: Oh noooo! Joe Besser was a genius in his own right. Compare his quirky antics to Curly Joe Derita who just took up space. Curly Joe may have been a nice guy, but that doesn't qualify him as a True Stooge!
I spent an afternoon with Joe DeRita in August 1976 and he described his work with the Stooges as a "pleasant business association." He was also a little embarrassed about the fact that his tenure with the Stooges was by far their most profitable. He said, "Curly and Shemp did all the heavy lifting, and then I came in and got all the gravy."
You lost all credibility when you said they brought in Moe & Shemp's older brother Curly to replace Shemp. Jerome "Curly" Howard was the youngest of the Howard brothers. Shemp was the oldest, then Moe, then 2 other brothers that didn't get into show business. Curly aka Babe, was the youngest brother.
You are right in saying that Curly was the youngest, Shemp was older than Moe and Curly, but of all the five brothers the oldest was Irving, the second was Jack, the third was Shemp, the fourth was Moe and the fifth was Curly.
I loved watching the Three Stooges as a kid and still do. In 1960 I saw them perform in person at an outdoor water show called Aquarama 1960. Curly Joe was the third stooge.I could always tell the difference between Curly and Curly Joe. I still love watching The Three Stooges.
Aquarama? Go Philly girl! I grew up around the corner from the Aquarama!
I always thought Joe Besser was the worst bc of his refusal (for the most part) to take hits.
Plus he was whiny and annoying
@@randysmith9841 terrible he was absolutely terrible
I think Besser got a raw deal. He was never really given a chance to carve his own niche because Jules White, the main producer of the latter Stooge shorts, kept retreading Curly and Shemp shorts with Joe haphazardly shoehorned in. When they finally started making new stories for the boys, it was too little too late. The plots came off as absurd, sweaty, and cumbersome.
Watch the Besser shorts. He takes plenty of belts....and before anyone mentions it, he had no clause in his contract about taking hits or pies.
@@randysmith9841 Oh, I really agree. Watching him in any movie or TV program just makes me cringe. It's amazing how long a career Besser had when he was so unfunny.
Love Shemp - hilarious.
I remember my mother taking my sister and I to a live performance in Seattle around 1959 or 1960. I was extremely disappointed when I realized that Curly Howard wasn’t performing with them, and this hack Curly Joe was on stage instead. Then I cried all the way home when my mom told me Curly Howard had died years before. “…but I just saw him on TV the day before…!”
Yes, I agree with those who say Shemp was the most talented all round actor/comedian of them all. Moe and Larry were wonderful 'types', but did not really branch out (tho' Moe tried). And, by all accounts, Shemp was the most outgoing and friend connected as well. Curly, of course, was a comic genius; one of the greatest of the 20th century. Poor Joe DeRita came along when they were aging, so the slapstick was toned down as much for that as for kids. DeRita was really just a goofy guy, and following 3 very distinctive personalities, he was rather tepid. Perhaps this was why he was a bit bitter later-tho' you really do not give any examples of that here. Even then, he must have been grateful for a pretty good income for at least a decade as the 3ed Stooge.
Curly was the YOUNGER brother.
I love the Stooges till this day, but I liked the Shemp era the most, Curly was great but many of those episodes the boys were almost like vaudeville characters/actors, they tried to act too seriously as if they were thespians on a broadway stage, it wasn’t until later they became just funnier and sillier and evolved into the goofballs they portrayed, it was all good but the Shemp era was funnier to me because they didn’t take the acting too seriously IMHO
Agreed. I loved Curly but with Shemp in the mix those shorts were gold!
Shemp on the Floor doing those Speeded-Up Circle Roll-Rounds ='d PERFECTION!!😜
He bad mouthed the stooges ?
I can't believe it.
And yet he was my favorite one of them all
It worked. As a child, I didn't know Curly-Joe was different from Curly. I didn't realize that Culy was a genius until I got older.
Moe Larry and shemp, Moe Larry and curly are the greatest 2 lineups of the 3 stooges. Curly is my favorite stooge
Yes, I grew up watching reruns of all the shorts those 2 iterations did. Still love those b&w 📺 skits.
Grampa Curly was THE BEST!
@@CurlysGrandson Yes he was. The contrast of bossy authority of Moe with the child naivety of Curly and the everyman Larry was an ideal combination. BTW I sent some sharpened pictures you may like.
The films with Shemp Howard were the funniest if you want to know the truth. He was the funniest stooge.
Born in 1958, I didn't start watching the 3 Stooges until 1965. I enjoyed all of their shorts and I'm watching them every night now, time shifted. I liked that Joe Besser stepped in and by 1968 Curly Joe was the 3rd Stooge in the 3 Stooges Cartoons and intros. Again, keeping the 3 Stooges alive, I was grateful for Joe DaRita. I know Emil Sitka was considered as the 3rd Stooge and I think because I saw him in so many other roles in the 3 Stooges shorts, I couldn't get on board with him being the 3rd Stooge. Besides, that would've left a gap in the supporting cast. He, Bud Jamison and Vernon Dent were so important to the shorts as were Ken McDonald and the myriad of both Male and Female players who were the Foils and the Wives or GFs. Having somebody new was the only way to go. I'm glad they did.
Curly and Shemp will always be my favorites. Couldn't stand Curly Joe or the other.
I recall where I was at when I heard that Curly Joe had passed away and the reporter said that Curly Joe thought that his time as a Stooge was some of his fondest memories.
I'm fairly certain Curly Joe was always positive about his time with the Stooges. He just didn't personally find their style of comedy funny. That's why their style changed a bit in the later years. (that, and due to their ages) The slapstick was toned down and it became wittier. The jokes became the dialogue and situations - rather than physical. And I think a lot of that had to do with Curly Joe.
Granted, from day 1 the Stooges were always very witty. There's dialogue and written humor and turn-of-phrases in just about every short - from signs to episode names. But under Curly Joe they emphasized it and toned down the violence.
Curly was the youngest Howard brother. Shemp (Samuel) was born in 1895, Moe (Moses) in 1897 and Curly (Jerome) in 1903. The two Joes were both younger than Curly.
The video never explained how he bad-mouthed the Stooges. I get that he didn't care for slap stick, but that's not the same as bad-mouthing.
So where was the bad mouthing? Interesting little mini documentary but misleading title. It seems that curly Joe mimicked both curly and shemp at various points in his career and in both cases using a shaved head and long stringy greasy hair as a prop. Shemp was always my favorite because of the way his hair would mess up after a slap as well as the fact that he was also willing to stand up to moe from time to time
Curly Joe & the other guy weren't very good. Shemp & the original Curly were equally good, imho, but nobody could have replaced Larry.
Curly Joe doesn't deserve this type of hate. Not his fault that Curly and Shemp died.
I heard that Curly Joe DeRitas last words were, "Screw you Moe!!"
It’s obnoxious when people attack the thing that made them “famous” and paid for their house and car. If you hate it so much, give your residual checks to charity.
I remember him best in Snow White and the Three Stooges, The Three Stooges meet Hercules, and The Three Stooges Goes Around the World in a Daze. He was my third favorite third stooge next to Curly and Shemp respectively.
Joe DeRita may have hated his short subjects at Columbia, but I'm not so sure that he ever bad-mouthed his time in the 3 Stooges ...
I Love them all.
They were all Excellent to watch growing up.
R.I.P.
You All are Still Much Loved
AGREED!!
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We agree. May they find peace 🔥
Well, I watched this and I'll be darned if I found where Joe bad-mouthed the Stooges.
In the seventies I read a book in which Moe stated that Derita, wanting to pursue more serious work, left the Stooges to "make a western". In the truly mean spirited western, The Bravados (1958), Derita has a serious (uncredited) role as a bogus hangman who knifes a sheriff in the back and is then immediately shot to death for his troubles. Hilarious, when one thinks about it. Terrific western, by the way.
I do want to see that movie.i heard that Joe derita plays a menacing hangman.i think that was his favorite role.
@@eugenekozma2697 Although brief, Derita's performance is memorable. There is immediately something "off" about his character that makes us (and Gregory Peck) distrust him.
@@eugenekozma2697 Although not addressed in the movie, logic strongly implies that Derita's fake hangman murdered the real hangman.
@@geraldmartin7703 I never saw the movie I must admit.but on TH-cam a few years ago I listened to a radio interview he gave on a Pittsburgh radio station and he said his role in the bravados was his favorite.
I grew up on every Stooge except for Joe Besser. I actually thought Curly Joe was Curly as a kid lol. But once I learned they weren't the same I still didn't mind Curly Joe.
There isn't a Shemp Shuffle, there isn't a Moe Shuffle, or a Larry Shuffle!
Curly Howard is the greatest comedic actor of all time. Yes, there is the Curly Shuffle! Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk, why certainly, lottie dee hottie dee!
I saw the 3 Stooges (with Joe DeRita) at Steel Pier in Atlantic City, NJ in 1960 at the age of 8. Must have made quite an impression, because 62 years later, at the age of 70, it is still memorable. And the video (Super 8) my mother took of the 4 of us is a prize possession.
Fun stuff, thank you so much for sharing your life story. You've got insane memory 👍
I've always wondered who spoke for the Stooges at the dedication of their Star on the Walk of Fame. From this video I learned it was Joe Besser. He had lost a lot of weight and it was hard to recognize him but he used the same pattern of speech, in my opinion.
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When I was a kid, we watched these guys every day after school. If a short came on the TV with Bessler or Derita, we switched to another channel.
shemp was my instant favorite after curlys untimely passing, not once did shemp ever in any way try to be curly or do what curly did, he had a vision of true comedy , i cant say the same on curly joe obviously he was always complaining backstage on the abuse by moe n larry, it was the whole deal joe hah yes they did their own stunts at times a bit rough
No one never could replace curly n shemp please pay ur respects to them
You should do a video on Joe Besser. He didn't really fit into the Stooges style of comedy, but he was a still a great comedic actor in his own right.
His 'Joe' with the Three Stooges was far too whiny.
@@-oiiio-3993 that was Joe Besser's trademark characterization of himself, though. He was very popular in film, radio and television and carried over that well-known, comedic persona into his own series of two-reel comedies at Columbia (which lead to Jules White bringing him on board with Moe and Larry).
Folks may not like Besser as a Stooge, but it would have never worked if White had tried to develop a different character for him.
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Agreed on all points.
It was simply a poor fit.
They say Joe DeRIta is the contemplative Curly.
Their was only One, Babe (Curly) and One Shemp.....
I saw "The Three Stooges" live in 1963 when they made a personal appearance at our local movie
theater for their movie "The Three Stooges Go Around the World in a Daze"! I was 16 & surprised at
how short they were & looked older, but otherwise the same! It was great fun to see them in person,
but wished that the 'real' Curly could have lived to be there! R.I.P. & Love to "The Three Stooges" et al!
Yes I recall when seeing both Snow White and The Three Stooges as well as the Three Stooges meet Hercules how I actual did mistake Curly Joe for Curly.
To say that Curly-Joe "bad-mouthed the Stooges" is dishonest. If he hated working with them, would he have kept doing it for 12 years? Sure, he said that he wasn't really a fan of their brand of comedy. But he always maintained that he enjoyed his time as a Stooge and working with Moe and Larry. That's not bad-mouthing as I understand it.
The three stooges were so funny love watching them
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In all fairness, Joe DeRita had a very tough act to follow. The reality is that his performance as a Stooge could not hold a candle to that of his predecessor, "The Real" Curley Howard, and the fans were not fooled.
Many thanks for the enlightening pre-Stooge history of DeRita -
I think he added a gentleness to their work plus was good at pratfalls as can be seen with their live TV appearances. (Didn't DeRita try to put the Stooges back into action ?)
In defense of Besser - his hyper-energetic and violent slapstick work as "Stinky" the obnoxious man-child was extremely funny on the Abbott and Costello TV series. (Did the great Wallace Beery help liberate the Stooges ?)
This is interesting, considering Joe DeRita's wife says in a Stooge documentary his time with Moe and Larry were the best years of his life.
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I really liked the Three Stooges and so did my parents especially my Dad he always watched them when they were on Television. I liked their "Have Rocket Will Travel" I have it on DVD and have watched it a number of times. I always thought Joe did a great job on the Stooges.He played the part well in my opinion. How he actually felt about the Stooges I didn't know till now!!
Joe derita kept the act going for like ten years.he is so unfairly maligned and unappreciated.
@@eugenekozma2697 I fully agree. I feel Joe did a really excellent job on the Three Stooges. He was comic in his role which worked well with how the Three Stooges always were.
We're happy to know that you and your parents enjoyed the Three Stooges! Family time is the best time 😉
@@robertgorton3856 thank you Robert.
@@FactsVerse Thanks, Yes family time is the best times
I worked the New 3 Stooges as a child. Was on camera from time to time and was there for all the live work. Boy do I have some stories! Your question is do I remember Joe DeRita? Very Fondly!!!
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I know he was there but sorry to say didn't think much of of him or Joe Besser. Curly Howard was always my favorite with Shemp my 2nd after Shemp Moe and Larry should have called it quits. Just my opinion. Have a great day everyone.
I Tried And Tried And Tried To Like Joe De Rita, Over And Over I Gave Every Chance To Give The Benefit Of The Doubt But Joe De Rita Was The Worst Stooge All Due Respects!!!
Curly Joe wasn't funny and Joe Besser wasn't much better. Moe, Larry, Curly and Shemp are hysterical. God bless them for the endless entertainment they have provided. Thanks for this post; it was mist informative.
I have the complete series on DVD. Having earlier read of Joe Besser having in his contract that he wouldn’t endure the physical abuse that Curly and later Shemp, had to endure, I assumed that Joe Besser, would be totally disappointing. I was surprised at how wrong I was. Maybe he wasn’t the best fit but he was funny.
Curly Joe was funny but since he looked so much like Curly, everyone expected him to be just like Curly, forgetting that they weren’t as young as they were when they started with “Women Haters” (1934).
One fact that is omitted about Joe DeRita that might be posted here is that he made a rare dramatic appearance as the bogus hangman in Henry King's 1958 western The Bravados with Gregory Peck.
I never liked him and I LOVED the Stooges....of course, my favorites were Moe, Larry, and CURLY!!
Well one has to be a little sympathetic to Joe DeRita. When he joined the Stooges their early stuff was being shown on TV with kids being able to see them. A lot of Parents and Social groups wanted the Stooges to tone down the slapstick and physical humor.
The Stooges were Moe Larry Curly Shemp...period
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Joe deritter made them most money he was great around world in a daz, moviies bad make more then shorts,
The phone booth scene with Shemp and Moe one of the funniest ever. Joe DiRita was a harmless, vaguely funny fill-in. Joe Besser’s effeminate persona was pretty funny.
I heard it was Joe Besser who was a difficult, temperamental character when off stage and often refused to do certain scenes. And I heard that JoeDeRita would do the best he could at what he was asked to do.
Joe Besser didn't want to be hit so Larry volunteered to take most of the punishment. Emil Sitka recalled that sometimes Curly Joe would get testy while filming the live action wrap-arounds to the cartoons. Joe DeRita probably fit the Stooges better at this point of the career than Joe Besser would have - Larry Wolff.
@@joanwolff4343 DeRita at least resembled Curly some, but was FLAT personality wise.....Besser was just a "GRATING" DUD!!....🤮
I was a little kid in the 60's and watched the re-runs. I (we) fully knew that Curly Joe was not our beloved Curly. Shaving the head was not enough. It did not fool us. Just wanted to point that out. I always liked Shemp too. Besser was too much of a whiner. // Oh about Derita - forgettable.
Exactly. In my opnion, the Three Stooges was a family business (I consider Larry family :) ) Derita and Besser were just imposters to me.
Did the narrator say Curly was Moe and Shemp's older brother? If so, he was incorrect, as Curly was younger than both of them. Personally, I liked Joe DeRita. He wasn't up to the standards of Curly or Shemp, but I thought he was better than Joe Besser. Like him or not, his days with them were the height of the Stooges' popularity.
I just saw the video for Sitka, thanks!
Doesn't matter the line-ups, Moe, Larry, Shemp, Curly, Joe, Curly Joe, Emil, Christine and all the excellent main and supporting crew, made the Stooges great!
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Moe Howard, Larry Fine, and Curly Howard were the best team as the Three Stooges, hands down! Shemp was really good too, but this was the second team.
Curly Joe was with them when they made that quick cameo in It’s A Mad Mad Mad Mad World (1963).
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Joel to robots: "Who was your favorite Stooge?"
Cambot: "Joe Besser".
Crow: "Joe DeRita".
In fairness to them both, you should know Joe Besser stepped in only as a favor. By that time, the budgets and production time for their shorts had been greatly reduced, plus Moe and Larry were getting up in years. Also, they were merely making the shorts to fulfill their contracts, knew it was probably the end for them, and didn't realize at the time that TV would make them greatly viable later. As for DeRita, by the time he joined, due to protests by parents, the Stooges had tempered their violent antics and slapstick down a great deal. Also, again, they were truly getting up in years and simply not as fast as in their earlier days. This especially seemed to be true for Moe.
So there you have it, and I'm another one who has listened to a couple of lengthy interviews with Joe DeRita and never heard him put down his former partners.
Moe was actually about 5 years older than Larry. Larry, incidentally, was the same age as Curly Howard. Shemp was the oldest Stooge being 2 years older than Moe.
I would also throw in that both the original Curly and Shemp were very hard acts to follow.
Very true, and of course, Shemp, Jerome and Moe were brothers, so they just naturally worked better together and also had more years of experience working as a trio.
Joe derita was an assett to the stooges in their final years.he had a relaxed style that served the act well.larry and moe were getting older and could not handle that energetic over the top comedy like in the stooges early days.joe Derita was a wise addition.
As a long stooges fan, I have no problems with Curly Joe. Its Besser shorts that hard for me to watch.
If you want to know why Shemp left the 3 stooges, it was partly if not totally due the stooges boss Ted Healy.
He wasn’t the nicest guy in the world, especially after consuming adult beverages particularly in excess!
It’s said that Joe Besser wasn’t keen on the Stooges brand of slapstick, but in interviews he seemed to enjoy the time spent with Moe and Larry.
The same could also be said about Mr. Dorita , he had short subject experience and even looked like Curly with his hair cut real short.
Why bad mouth the dead?
I think we all remember all the 3 Stooges fondly so let’s lighten up!
Agreed 👍
Joe DeRita is to the Three Stooges what Spaghetti-Os are to classic Italian cuisine. BLAND!!!!
Joe Besser was the worst Stooge and universialy hated
Curly Joe was the worst in my opinion. I liked Besser on the Abbott & Costello TV Show.
@@comedyshorts2 Whenever Rich Koz in Chicago would show Besser shorts on Stooge-a-Palooza he got hate mail for it. You have to see the 1949 Abbott & Costello movie Africa Screams Joe Besser and Shemp Howard were in it. I always preferred Derita over Besser.
@@comedyshorts2 Besser was the worst, because he didn't even try to tailor his comedy to fit the Stooges' act. He just kept doing the same unfunny crap he did on "Abbott and Costello" and elsewhere.