DCT Vs Manual (Which one is better?)
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Feel free to leave a comment below and explain what your choice is and why please! Would love to hear your perspectives of why. Thanks for watching!
Hey, I'm looking to replace my focus st(daily). How much is maintenance? Could a older e90 be a daily? I mean like 70k old
@@tlrprice7 as long as it’s not a m3 or 335i e90 maintenance and repairs will be cheap better gas mileage too
What's the use of the 4 door 🚪 if there's just a cage at the back, why not save some door weight and opt for a e92 instead?
I love manual and i want to sell my CTSV V1 to get a e90 manual. I always wanted something V8 thats comfy aggressive stylish and the sound being angry. I got the caddy thinking it was what i wanted. Even though I love it it’s not as connected as i wanted. Also i think u should get the xtrons radio so it keeps the xdrive and gives u the apple carplay
@NY Akio I have been looking at CTSVs but more so 2019-2017 as my next daily as well! CT5 Blackwings just cost so much!
Just got a 2011 Alpine white competition dct with carbon roof. It's a dream come true and I'm only 25!
Personally, DCT hits different on e9xs, but the downshifts on manual e9xs are satisfying, I'd personally choose dct though.
Definitely. Hence why everybody needs both in their garage lol 😂
agree with you 100%, i’m very sure manual e9x m3 is very fun but the dct is the way
@@SpencerBerke lol I have both in my garage and both really are great. The manual does not drive like a typical manual and takes some time getting used to it. But once you get it down it really is amazing. Around town the manual is not the friendliest but the DCT is amazing. Up shifts are fast and down shifts sound amazing.
@@claycrawford9009 auto vs manual bmws are very close fun wise
Gotta love them both
@@claycrawford9009 what do you find odd about the manual ?
I have both and I like them both for diff reasons. For one, it is much easier to feel the diff lock in the MT so I leave the TC off at all times. With DCT, it is the way to go for city traffics and highway pulls. I actually prefer the MT for trackdays because it is relatively low maintenance.
i come from all manual cars in the past (big bmw guy) i found my dream spec in DCT and i’m getting it as a daily but having trouble convincing myself, considering i’ve always had manual, would u mind giving me advice?
@@ctknetwork3008 Hard choice you have there, but I would get the DCT first then add 6MT later when your pocket allows. If I had to pick one vehicle, it would have to be MT.
DCT is just an automatic with an extra step. You might as well get a chauffeur if you aren't going to be engaged while driving.
I have a F82 M4 comp in San Marino Blue with DCT in the uk (ig hr55ngh). DCT all the way. I still love BMW manuals as they feel great). It has a single 2in1 midpipe (which fixes the weed whacker noise of the stock exhaust) and it has the GTS engine, transmission, diff & cs suspension tunes (I have BM3 so will put Stage1 on in the summer). And while it transforms the stock car a lot, the E9x platform is special and BMW will never be able to replicate it ever again in a future M car which sucks. Will pick up a E9x one day (DCT obvs).
I want a dct so I can daily it to work. Currently have a 6speed ; traffic sucks
Definitely manual, it provides full experience and satisfaction compared to the dct counterpart.
I've had a manual e92 M3 for nearly a decade and the stock manual shifter linkage and throws/slop leave a bit to be desired, but nothing that can't be addressed with the aftermarket. I've had manual cars all my life and don't even notice it while driving.
That said, the truth is this: the s65 and s85 engines were designed with their respective 7 speed transmissions in mind (though only the s65 had dct). Both powerplants are high revving, peaky engines with low torque for their power, and take great advantage in having a closer ratio, faster shifting transmission with one more ratio.
So i went with the manual because it doesn't reduce my comfort since i'm very accustomed to it and i like the extra interaction, but unless you're a hardcore manual lover, the dct simply is better matched and performs better in every regard(it weighs slightly more, but its negligible).
Thanks for sharing that!!
@@SpencerBerke My pleasure, much love for the channel and your journey.
DCTs aren't faster when they throw you into the wrong gear. Also, you can't skip gears.
Are DCT shifts more crisp tho compared to a manual rev matching?
Hey man, great video! I drive a DCT M.R. E92 M3 about 60 miles in LA traffic EVERYDAY, and boy am I grateful my left leg isn't double the size as my right one. DCT daily all day, but 6SPD Manual is great for weekends too!
What about e92 335is
I love manuals. I know they aren't faster but I just love the feel of it! But I definitely see the benefits of dct though. Now what about the manual vs. the new zf box in the g80s?!
DCTs aren't faster when they throw you into the wrong gear. Also, you can't skip gears.
@@NikoBellaKhouf2 you control the gears just like you would if it’s a manual. Downshifting two or three times in a DCT is still faster than a single downshift in a manual
@@theofficialwizard2753 No, it's not faster. One shift vs two or three shifts, one shift will always be faster.
@@NikoBellaKhouf2 nah the shifts are so much faster than a manual several can be done as quickly.
@@theofficialwizard2753 And you aren't controlling anything like it's a manual. DCTs are glorified automatics.
I currently own an E92 M3 with the 6-speed manual with the UCP and short shifter and also an Alpine tune. I absolutely love how the car drives. I've owned an E36 M3 and E46 M3 both in manual (albeit the non-manual options are less than stellar) but also owned some AMGs that were all automatic (C55, W211 E55, W204 C63) and adored those just as much in different respects. It really comes down to what you want out of a car. For me, I HAD to have a 6-speed M3. It's just what I've always dreamed of and that's what drove my decision. I will admit the DCT is far superior in every measurable way, but there's just something about rowing gears with the V8! You can't go wrong with either. Maybe one day I'll get into a DCT car and it may change my mind about everything! Certainly not opposed to owning a DCT M3, but the manual is just what I've always wanted. Great video, Spencer! You hit the nail on the head.
Killing it with the upload frequency. Keep up the good work, Spencer!
Thx Nick!
Personally dct, it compliments the cars high and light shifts while making it easy to drive, so advanced used even on f10m5
Just got my 2012 BMW M3 E92🎉 so freaking excited 🥵🥵🥵
I love my DCT, it’s just plain fun everytime I drive.
I couldn’t agree more
I love both trans on the e9x. One thing that helps amazingly with the manual e9x m3 is the clutch pedal spring. Very easy to remove and helps tremendously.
Ive had both.. DCT all day. No question
Getting the perfect rev matches with my 6MT is super intoxicating. Having the computer do it for me would be sad. But there is no right answer
DCT’s are stellar transmissions, but for now I’m a huge fan of how much a manual adds to the driving experience. I have a ‘15 mustang GT and It’s rewarding to build a muscle memory for heel-toe and rev matching, then pair that with chassis and grip management. I’ve yet to drive a DCT e92 but I might need to add one to the garage lol
the intro was hilarious
Ahah thx bro I had fun making it
Every real car guy drives a Manual, we love to drive cars why remove the thing that connects you to the car most
💯👍
I like a manual in a mustang but prefer a DCT M3 (owned a E92 in the past).
Yeah, E9X chassis is awesome for DCT. But I like manual 997’s.
Honestly feel like the manual is clunky tbh
Yeah I went from a manual E90 to a DCT F80 M3.... it is a very SOULESS car! I miss the E90 M3!
DCT wins races
For me, driving cars is all about appealing to the senses. I enjoy a manual transmission because it adds more feel than a DCT, both due to the shifter and that explosive momentum coming into the next highest gear from the small time spent in neutral. I’d also like to mention the enormous satisfaction you get when you nail a rev match just right, sure DCT downshifts are wicked fast but it doesn’t feel as good behind the wheel, at least in my opinion.
My favorite car I’ve ever owned was my manual N55 135i. I drove that car in DCT. Currently searching for an E92 M3 and have driven both transmission options. The entire time I was in the DCT cars, all I could think was “Man I really wish this had a third pedal”. Felt the same about the DCT F80 I owned
I agree 💯 👍
Amen
I have had my E91 330D 6 speed Manual for almost 3 years now. I live out in the country side in Norway, we have a rough winter, but having that manual and rear wheel drive makes snow driving alot of fun. Pluss throwing gears on the straigths are alot of fun. But, if I lived close to or in a city I would go sport auto/dct if it was an option all the way. If I ever get the chance to own an M3 I would probably go with a 4 door DCT just like you. Watched your videos since before you got your blue E90, good content !
save the manuals!
In this car DCT is the king
I have e93 M3 DCT alpine stage 2 tune with DCT tune I love DCT I have M2 to with DCT too I had Shelby manual
Subaru sti manual DCT is my choice
I’m gonna keep saying it , auto/dct for f chassis/ newer bmws and manual for e9x chassis and older
I’m a DCT guy
Same
Can you make a video about what to look out for when buying an e90 M3?
Sure!
Def DCT is Quicker. and is fun . use both center shifter and the paddle
2013 FIRE ORANGE E92 DCT
Bro the intro🤞🏽👑💯,
I prefer DCT much better shifts just my preference
Haha thx bro. Same here.
IMO, DCT with GTS tune makes my E90 come alive. Otherwise, manual is fantastic.
Most definitely.
I got a manual civic as a daily and dct e92 m3. I wish my m3 was manual but tbh the dct is a great gearbox I have no complaints. It’s fun to drive
Dct's are so much better. Everyone told me dct sucks. So when i had one i bought the manual. I drove my friends car, and you can see these cars were made for dct. The 6mt is so sloppy in comparison to an e36 and e46 m3.
stock manual vs dct, go manual. but man DCT is amazing with a TCU and ECU tune
I have DCT N55 135i 6MT M5 540i6 and 6MT M2C and man that DCT is a special transmission I wouldn’t trade any of these cars for any other transmission - I also feel like I would want the S65 with DCT
I think you nailed it, what is your goal. If it's to get the best track times, the DCT is a big advantage. If you just want to have fun with the car and hoon around a little, manuals are a ton of fun.
You might prefer manual for fun, I accept that although I get more fun from a manually operated DCT.
But better? Sequential gearboxes are better and faster than manuals for more than 2 decades...
DCT is like mixing on CD with beat matching Vs Vinyl on turntables.
I've had 2 Audis with DCTs. An S3 and my current RS3. I also owned a manual M2 Competition. I don't think there's a "better" option. It all depends on what you want. If you're looking for speed, then the DCT is better. If you want to have more fun, then manual is the way to go.
Personally I prefer the manual, but I never race or go to the track. I just enjoy a clutch. The problem is that so few cars offer them now so the decision is being made for us.
SAVE THE MANUALS!
SAVE THE MANUALS!
This video is genius, really got me thinking maybe DCT is really the best for daily commute. Which equals for fun;)
Car and driver did text of m3 DCT vs manual and only got .4 seconds I quarter and they said almost ALL of that was from the dct launch control. It's easy to add launch control and NLS yo a manual trans car... More info here:
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Manuals are an endangered species. Enjoy them while you can. Same reason for driving an ///m3 over a Tesla 3 Performance.
I was always a manual person. It’s a personal preference. I drive daily moved to DCT 3 years ago. The evolution of the automatic has gotten better and evolved over the years. DCT for me. ✌🏻
My SMG E46 is a near instant shift. This guy is either full of it or has never driven an SMG E46. I'm not saying the newer ones aren’t faster but he makes it seem as if the E46 model is slow and it’s not.
It’s faster than what a human can shift a stick. I’ll bet that at a track any day of the week
Manual as automatic kills the joy and less handling /traction and control...so the answer is manual all the way up
DCT if the car's super gutted and toed in for track use. DCT is better for super cars just sitting in a light tub.
Manual all day I just can’t get away from not driving stick lol
I would say DCT for the track and the manual as a daily. I drive a 6MT M240i and enjoy it everyday. Great video Spencer.
Both equal for me… M6 garage queen DcT and N54 manual e92.. enjoy both gearboxes
Had both for the e92 m3. Went from wanting a manual to selling it and buying another one with a dct. IMO your driving situation plays a big part daily driving or for pleasure. But mann the down shifts on a dct are waaaay too CRISP let me tell ya.
Maybe work on your rev match and heel & toe game...
upagred to CAE shifter and lighter flywheel
Good to see you back posting regularly and having fun in the videos again.
Thank u Bryan!
the manual is a lot more fun to drive. that extra .2 secs is worthless if you dont drag race professionally
What’s better, broccoli or chocolate? They are both foods, but one is more fun, the other makes more sense.
Lol. The best comment here.
Chocolate is healthy. So you're saying the manual is the best option because it's both healthy and fun 😎
@@NikoBellaKhouf2 So you're defining chocolate by the pure ingredient rather than the popular use of the word? That's fine, but I don't have to follow your definition of chocolate.
Dct>>>
Yessss
You read my mind man haha, I was talking to myself the other day and was like, “Man it would be cool if spencer could do a manual vs dct I can’t decide which one I want.” And here we are, thank you man much love
Great video Spencer!
Thx Parker!!
I’m getting mine tomorrow. I chose a manual for the daily driving experience. It’s very satisfying to shift a manual. The DCT sounds great when it rev matches though.
Manual!! But NGL, DCT’s downshifts with exhaust sound very unique!!
the ignition cuts for a second when shifting...thats what you are hearing....all dcts do this...it's inherent to how they work....
@@BETNCORT Thanks for the info!! Btw, if I ever buy an “automatic” car, it would be either an E92 DCT M3 or F87 DCT M2 Comp.
Manual > dct, but short shifter needed
Great video, it's hard to go wrong with either option but ig it depends on what I would use the car for. Canyon ripper = manual, track car = DCT, and for that reason I'd pick manual. But on a side note I GOT to know where you got that t-shirt from, I love it
i got a manual 320d for my first car. I fucking love it. Allthough the bmw manual transmission feels like shit sometimes. I think in an m3 with that much power i'd prefer the dct just so i don't need to worry about getting the gear in while shifting
my dad has a 2014 skoda superb with dct and imo it's pretty stiff in regular traffic. It just doesn't habe a feeling for the clutch. Manual is more chill
I prefer manual E92 BMW M3
SPENCER WITH THE REGULAR UPLOADS!!! Let’s go!! 🔥💪🏽
Haha yooooo
Anyone that said DCT is a lazy enthusiast
My man kickin out the new vids, that's what I'm sayin! 💪
Thx for watching bro!
Banger
Drive a manual if you like losing
None of your videos you redlined lol
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I've had many manual vehicles but the DCT isn't like any automatic I've ever had. The instant shift performs, you have such fast control over which gear you want. I don't feel like I lose anything - but gain much more convenience in traffic.
I had both. I decided to settle for a manual for now since soon we will no longer have manual options, well on newer cars. So i am enjoying it for now.
Dang it, now I have to buy both!
HAHA, me too bro me too
Manual transmission all the way
I have never driven a DCT in my life. I drive an E92 Manual. Whenever I am stuck in traffic I cuss myself out and tell myself that I should have bought a DCT, but when I am driving in the backroads… it’s all smiles the whole way. I am thinking of buying a DCT M3 as a daily because I cannot daily this manual. I would say it’s all up to personal preference.
Manual 💯. I would rather sit in daily traffic in my E90 M3 manual all day every day. Unless I was physically unable to row gears, I pick manual. More connected w the car. I don’t track, otherwise DCT. Full exhaust, 93 Alpine st 2 tune, h&r w/ stock EDC + spacers.
While owning a 600 hp manual, i prefer the auto, its easier and less work involved. Besides, i don't race, i dont drift, i dont auto cross or rally, 99% of my enjoyment is the straight line power and the automatic is best as that.
ive been driving manual most of my coupe cars... i think DCT is another level thats why v8 s65 plus DCT is great fit in my opinion...i personally think DCT is better than manual it shift faster and it is 7 speed
The manual is an anti-theft device, lol. I love my manual e93, nothing could be better than that sound from behind. To each his own. My car is weekend car, I don't drive in stop and go traffic, don't daily it. It's what I bought it for. Good luck to any of the drivers with these wonderful cars, manual or DCT.
i tested both. for me, the dct is relaxing, fun and fast.
I really enjoy the manual in my v10 m6. To me, the more enjoyable option. It can be a pain when I'm in traffic or when I'm trying to keep up with faster stuff in the canyons. So long term I might buy a dct e92 to compliment it
Also. Gears are too long from factory and shift linkage too sloppy. I've already fixed the shifter and plan on shortening the final drive. It drives 10x better
@@LT64444 i think the ratios are good...what;d you do for a better linkage feel ?
@@BETNCORT Auto solutions shift kit. They are custom made to your needs and the feel is amazing. Long wait but I've tried many options, and this is the way to go
Right on the money...DCT for my every day driver. Hit the M button for instantaneous power, response and nothing beats the down shifting rev matching.
10000%
How about a dct service video? BMW says lifetime but I don't a mechanical system with wear and tear can last a lifetime, unless lifetime = 100k kms
DCT is way faster and easier BUT the real unicorn is a manual weekend only car. Also learning to drive manual and rev match takes years to master. People don't have time for that.
I owned both a manual and DCT E92 M3. Hands down the engine is made for the DCT. The manual in the e92 is badly mated to the chassis/engine.
Smoke DCT everyday yay yay
I have a manual 1996 328is. I’ve never driven a dtc paddle shifter. I can’t imagine dtc can be as good of a feeling as a manual but until I really drive one, I’ll never know. Time to get out there and try one
Daily - 6spd manual works for me. I have almost zero commute. If I was tracking a car on a regular basis I'd buy a DCT
I agree
my first e92 m3 was manual loved the damn thing my 2.e92 m3 (current) is a dct car now i want a manual e92 m3 again but i don't want to sell my dct e92 m3
i guess the answer is both are awesome and get 2 e92 m3s if you can right? why not i am gonna try :)
I'll get a DCT, PDQ when my ALS makes me SOL and I have to apply for SSDI!
Dct any day