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Learned how to drive manual about 7 months ago. My dad bought me an old 325xi and threw me right into it. it is incredible. I don't know if I could ever enjoy an automatic car more than a manual. Best thing ever
I'm from Europe. More particularly 🇵🇹, we all learn how to drive a diesel manual car. In lessons, instructor said to lift the clutch and accelerate just a bit. After I got the license, I got a amazing deal on a car I 'wanted'. It was an automatic E90 320D. I still got it and drive it. I still know how to drive manuals, but lost most of the habit. I may stall the car in launches because of it. I prefer manual cars but automatic are pretty good and save alot of work. But if I could, I would have a manual again.
Nice, man! My mom taught me to drive stick as well, when I was 18 and had just purchased my first WRX (02!). She learned on her 67 Merc Cougar... Can we rename the man pedal the mom pedal?!?
Hello from Germany. I have learned to drive on a manual (Seat Leon). Here in Germany it's normal to drive a manual. We have a Skoda Fabia Manual, Citroen Berlingo Manual. My whole family drives manual, just my grandpa he drives an automatic 😂
In the UK; old people and people that are not very good drivers drive automatics. However, DCT PDK etc etc are more exceptions and are often more preferable to track driving.
@@KirillGavrilenko with modern cars it’s the same in Germany, people want the automatic, because it’s less to do while driving. Manuals are now also pretty much reserved for the sports versions. Anyway how is it going for you in the Ukraine? I hope you and your family are good man!
The positive for manual transmissions is the lower cost of spare parts and lower complexity which means lower labour cost and fewer parts to service during preventive or corrective maintenance.
keeping manuals alive means buying any and every manual car you can...buying new - not used. This also goes for any style of car you'd like to see more of...a hot used market does nothing for future R&D and lineup.
@@alh06 Government policies will always be above what consumers want. ICE will eventually be banned, so even if you want a gas car, you won't be able to get one. Also, before you call me a Tesla fanboy or something, I want to mention that I don't like Tesla and I like ICE cars just as much as EVs.
I’ve probably taught around 10 people. I don’t really mind letting people drive my car because there’s nothing they can’t do that 5 people before them haven’t done.
I'd argue it's also tied to economic equality - most new car buyers are over the age of 30 and are buying vehicles for their families. I think there is a sizeable portion of people who would be willing to purchase manual vehicles, but that same demographic is more likely to work a part time job, have student debt, and thus buy a *used* manual car. So in conclusion - teach someone to drive a manual, discharge their student debt, and mandate a minimum wage of $20/hr :D
Dylan Tully I made a smart decision and went to an affordable state school and worked when I was in college. it's not fair to millions of people to take their tax payer money to bail out other's mistakes. Watch the documentary "free to choose" it explains why simply raising the minimum wage is not the answer.
I just bought my E90 M3 in DCT mostly because of your recommendation. Really enjoying it thus far - hate people that criticize my car for having the “wrong gear box,” or as you said, “not being man enough.”
I agree that the macho attitude has to go! People act like driving a manual is this godly thing, when in reality your grandma can probably do it. These days, if enthusiasts are only willing to consider modern, manual cars, they're limiting themselves. Lots of flavors to try!
I was 13 when my mom took me to drive the first time. And of course, since I live in Brazil, everyone knows how to drive a manual. Funny thing is that a lot of people don't know how to drive an automatic here lol.
I absolutely love the ZF8; the fact that it locks the torque converter after 1st gear makes it so fun to drive. Yet it can be incredibly smooth when you need it. But I need a manual next!
I've driven a few Bimmers with the ZF8, and an M4 with the DCT: it's a great automatic, but still feels empty and lifeless compared to the 6-speed in my M240i
watermelon3878 _ true, that’s a great chassis and drivetrain combo. and cheaper than m2 or m2c which is dream. i think i want a 6mt e92 m3 or f80 if i can find one for a good price and spec but idk i still love this combo for a daily
I'll be honest I drove a manual for 20years, but after getting my m3 DCT, I love it, hitting that m button then shifting down to 3rd with the paddles, it's a rocket.... Beast of a car, but point is try a DCT and you would surprised how good they are
Manual is easy and a ton of fun. Just bought a bmw 340i F30 manual, because i drove automatic often in the last years and it just isnt the same amount of fun. my next car may be Automatic, when i hit the 40s. but i LOVE manual on sporty cars
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No point in a manual car. When cars are starting to steer and drive themselves, not only do you look a little foolish asking for a manual, but you're also investing money in something that won't exist in the future. Not to mention most people can't even shift gears faster than a modern day Toyota with an automatic transmission😂
My dad taught me before my license. I fell in love with it and found a stick shift Subaru Outback for my first car, and I drive it everyday. It really isn’t a hassle to drive at all. I’ve taught 2 of my friends how to drive on it already and they loved it once they figured it out!
The one thing i don't miss about a manual daily, is the occasional gentle crunch into second or 3rd on a FRIGID cold winter morning. That first shift at like 2500 rpm as you're warming up lol
Tedward something wonderful about a manual, like you mentioned in your video is that it made the super cars of the era feel fast. Driving a slow manual car is so much better than driving a slow auto.
I feel like DCTs got a bad rep from previous iterations of it from transmissions like BMW’s SMG transmission in the E36/E46 M3 and the E60 M5. At the time there was no such thing as a DCT so manufactures had to get creative in making a quick shifting transmission for the track which were clunky and weird to operate but was a step forward in the creation of the DCT transmission. In my opinion If DCTs were given a chance from the beginning they probably would’ve been much more popular than they are today.
Very true. I would say that they never had the good manners of a torque converter auto at low speeds and it’s a shame. But that’s just the nature of a clutch I suppose
Exactly, many don’t recognize that DCT is a totally different transmission than SMG 1/2 found in the E36 & E46 M3. DCT with proper tuning is pretty much as quick as it gets, apart from PDK of course.
E92 M3 is my absolute dream car, such a gem of an engine especially with that insanely high redline what a hooligan car it would be for me. Hopefully someday I’ll be able to afford the maintenance and upkeep because that’s what would hold me back considering a 2013 can be had for less than 30k
The manual F type is dead sadly... Since it came out in 2015 my dad knew this was his modern dream car! Last year in October, he ordered the 3rd last manual f type ever produced and the actual last manual with a panoramic sunroof. Of course British racing green and brown seats! Such a great car!
Here in Germany everyone learns driving with a manual car during driving school, to me manual is much more fun in most cases, but for my Z4 35i I opted for the 7 speed DCT instead of manual still 🤷🏻♂️ For the E92 M3 the DCT seems better overall. Still I wanna have a manual car again one day
I had to pause 3 minutes in because you hit two good points right away! My mom always impressed my friends growing up because she could rip in a manual trans. My wife learned to drive in an old 4spd pick-up truck and can drive anything-fast and scary-but can drive anything lol. And my daughter that just got her permit will learn to drive standard before she graduates-I’m sure of it. And you’re right-there is definitely a learning curve with the paddles. Timing and controlling reflexes can be more challenging than one expects.
All about spreading the love! Totally agree that we gotta detach masculinity from manual transmission expertise. So stupid omg. Also, auto rev match in every manual car should be able to be turned off at the press of a button. Don’t make me go into sport mode or turn off traction control or any of that shit. Just. let. me. press. the. damn. button. Also, #respectthestickdrivingmoms
what we need is an SMG with an H pattern shifter: paddles for those that want fast, simple, easy shifts and an H pattern and clutch for those that want to do it themselves. In one car!
I think Volvo actually tried something like that before. I can't for the life of me remember the name of the car, but it was on an old episode of Top Gear!
I drove a dct, it was fun and it was impressive with how fast it shifted, even so, i gotta have a manual. Had to teach myself, it was basically a life goal for me to learn.
I taught my younger sister to drive a manual in a not so easy to learn 3000GT VR-4! I just realized she has owned several manual cars, up to a Mazda 3.
My mom taught me to drive stick. 2006 Scion Xb, basically no power, but it was fun because you could drive it flat out pretty much everywhere, and never get going fast enough to get yourself into any trouble. She owned that car for 10+ years and it was a tank. Still one of the best manual drivers I know, and I thank her for introducing me to the pure enjoyment of shifting your own gears. “The Man Pedal” is a phrase only used by insecure men who think driving a manual makes them better than other drivers for some reason.
My problem is I have a tedious daily drive with heaps of stops and starts to uni and have to reverse parallel park on 25-30% grade hills and I just dont want to do that with a manual, I couldnt be bothered. Its a struggle for my car's DCT, it absolutely hates it and i feel bad for it ever time. If I could have a second car I totally would have it as a manual its just inconvenient as my only car.
People forget that the DCT is fundamentally a manual with a computer controlled clutch engagement mechanism. My perspective is it is both the best manual or the best automatic at the driver's choice.
I used to be upset about watching manuals dissapear. But once I started with automatic gearboxes I dont wanna go back 😂 Veteran cars can have them. And some newer cars if they have +300hp. Might be fun then. But regular slow boring cars has no use for a manual stick. Its just unecessary. If im gonna do the extra work with stick and clutch. It has to be worth it 😅
Taught myself in my 1998 Honda prelude and also own a frs I let people learn manual in Also one of my buddies down the street let me drive his automatic 86 and I have to say its a fun floppy paddle
Hi from the Netherlands! one thing that really blows my mind is how the AT market has dominated the US for a very long time! Here in the EU, you would always have to pay extra for an AT, and then they wouldn't even be on par with the manual like you said. Here in the Netherlands, you do your driver's lessons and exam with a manual. you can opt for an automatic but that does get a note on your driver's license which prohibits you from driving a manual car! If at some point you want to start driving a manual car, you have to retake your driving exam in a manual car (and most of the time some driving lessons are very much recommended!). Only recently there's a visible shift in cars that are sold as automatics (without any upcharge). like you said, it's becoming a numbers game. and nowadays automatics have 8 gears (or even more in some cases) providing better fuel economy which obviously is a big thing here in the EU.
Had a 2012 Focus with a 5 speed and loved it, then traded it for a Jeep with a auto 9 speed (Pure junk) and hated it, finally just traded it off on a 6 speed Kia Forte GT and love it again. I've offered to teach people but no one wants to even try...
The teaching point is very valid. In Switzerland, it used to be that you weren't allowed to drive a manual car if you did your licence with an automatic car. So that's why almost everyone took the manual car license and is able to operate such a car. But a short while ago, they changed the law and it's now possible to drive a manual car even with an automatic license. Because they assume that very few cars will be available with a manual in the future (EVs etc) and that this old license system is no longer needed. Of course this also means that the amount of people actually knowing how to use a manual will get smaller...
Just a curiosity, in Brazil most of our cars still being manual. I don't know exactly why, but the automatic transmission started to be a trend just in the middles of 2000's. When we have the lessons to get our driver license, all the cars are manual, so in fact, everybody that has a driver license in Brazil knows how to drive with the stick. #SaveTheManuals
Manual in bmw’s are rubbery crap with long throws. And I own a manual m3 (which is far better than smg). DCT definitely fits the e92 and F80 M cars better than manual. They’re too big of a car to be in manual anyway
I hope everyone and I who hasn’t been taught stick, will gets their chance. I had one lesson before in a ‘07 Mazda 3. It is the most connected car experience between car and driver. Nothing was more exciting than that. In a manual, I feel like you and the car become one. It’s like an illusion to me. When I get taught in a ‘67 Fastback soon, I wonder how the Mustang will change me and my love for cars.
here in Spain we usually see the whole "oh i drive a manual ok" personality a lot of US youtubers have like "do you want a prize or something? a pin to show people?" cuz like, even my grandma drives manual, the weird thing here is seeing people with automatics that aren't old people
I am from germany and in my opinion, the best is when u can choose. So if you learned how to drive a manual you simply can drive every version of a car. For those who don't know: In Germany if u get your driver's license for automatic, you'e not alowed to drive a manual. In the other case u are alowed to drive both. It is listed in the license. So how is it in america or other countries?
People who gatekeep being a 'car guy' over whether or not your car is manual or auto make being part of the hobby exhausting. I drive and own cars in both automatic and manual. Both are fine. If it's an old car from the 80s or 90s I will probably choose a manual because the torque converter automatics of that era are garbage and unfun to drive, but even modern torque converted autos not just DCTs can be made to shift quick and hold onto gears. Add paddle shifters and they are almost as fun as a manual.
Manual cars might dissapear from new cars, but manual will never go away. Never. There will always be manuals driving around, and there will always be people taking their license with a manual so it always has to be available. Manufacturers should however, make it possible to choose between real manual and automatic.
i used to be only person out of all my friends who liked manual cars (in high school when no one had a car) and now almost all my friends are learning to drive manual
i’ve successfully taught 3 of my friends manual, and 2 of them actually went and bought manual cars. the 3rd guy will probably get one when his current car gives up
Mazda with the mx5 are the only one that put priority on manual box now, there are a couple of others but they come and go and its hard to beat a mx5 gbox , better than any Porsche shifter I've tried yet, great video dude cheers...
i had one automatic then my trans blew and i manual swapped it. it was my daily now i have 4 manual cars, and im really considering another automatic for a daily.
Brilliant.Teach more people to drive manual. Such a simple yet effective solution. I will always own a manual. I definitely don't miss it in my daily like I thought I would, but again a DCT is great daily and does have a learning curve. And you have to hone your craft frequently with the manual. And maybe we could call it a badass pedal, since people who can properly drive a manual are badass?
A thing that many US citizens don't know is the fact that in Europe or partically the European Union you have to do your driving test on a manual or if you don't you're not allowed to drive a car with a clutch pedal which is shown with a certain number on your driving license. So the first car as a cheap option is then of course mostly a manual. Moreover fuel is way!! more expensive in over here than in the US so for long that little fuel consumption advantage was enough of a selling point and moreover most cars have pretty small engines to be more frugal so an automatic would've killed all perfomance that was left. Now more and more cars are coming with good automatics and we will go through the same process as the US does now in about 30 years. I like a good manual any day but I also have an E500 W211 M273 with an automatic and even if they'd sold with a manual I still choose the automatic because come on a Mercedes has to be automatic period. Moreover Mercedes manuals suck and their automatics are supreme. Just drive a Mercedes RWD with a manual and you'll understand.
I think that driving schools should teach manual first. If you know manual you can hop into an automatic or dct and get your head around it within some minutes. If you only know auto and hop into a manual you will have to learn how to drive again basically.
I don't get your point. Manuals are just more fun, no matter what car are you driving. Supercars could make total sense with manuals if you are not just chasing lap times or 0-60 mph. It's also about involvment with the car, and involvment is precisely what you whant in any type of sport car, not just numbers. You feel you will not be able to drive a new Ferrari eith a manual? fine, just get the automatic, but at least as an option should by a manual version. Luxury car are the only ones I could understand if they exclusively come with an automatic transmission. (I apologize for my english).
I prefer an auto for daily driving, sitting in traffic with a manual transmission isn't enjoyable at all I daily drive a 530d with the fabulous ZF gearbox, for that purpose it's perfect; quiet, relaxed and silent. If you ask me a manual has its place in a weekend toy. It's just a sheer joy hooning up and down the twisties, preferably in an analog car without any electronics. For that purpose I have an RX-7 FD3S with a big single turbo. It's the complete opposite; loud, exhausting and tries to kill you if you don't respect it, but is so rewarding to drive and so well balanced! For me neither is per se better, either one has its purpose and that's fine!
Here in Europe, if you want a cheap (used) car, it will be a manual in 95% of cases. Practically everyone: men, women, young or old... knows how to drive one and probably owned one. I have to admit though that slowly but steadily we're also reaching a turning point in favour of AT's when it comes to new cars, because they have indeed become so good.
Remember back in couple years ago, back when I bought my first car, an e30 318i manual, i had never driven a car, let alone manuals, all my “driving experience” are from arcade games like battle gear 4, the one got actual 3 pedals and a gated shifter. Anyway, so i called up the seller, told him to bring the car to my place, was super hotheaded so didnt even negotiated with the price, paid the guy and got the key. Since i didnt know how to drive a stick, a friend who “told me that he know how to drive” was with me, turned out he didnt know shit about it just like me, we were super awkward and asked the seller if he can teach us some basic and drive the car to the parking lot next to my place, the guy was super chill and taught us how to drive it at 10 pm at night. After learning the basic me and my friend were basically learning from youtube how to drive a manual thru out that night. This is the story id tell my friend who wanted a manual but dont know/not sure how to drive one, just do it, you will get a grip on it after a few stalls.
I like your vids a lot and agree with your perspective on “save the manuals.” Also what color interior is that, on camera at least it looks light blueish? Nice trim 👍🏼
I'm from a relatively poor European country that used to be occupied by Soviets, and when I look at local auto market, cheapest cars still come with manual only option. I too drive an old car (average ago of cars here are approximately 12 years) with manual, not really smoothly, but good enough to move around. And if I really hate something, it's those drivers who break right before tram rails or cobblestone streets. F..! It's not like your car's suspension will fall apart from riding over that! Unless it's really stiff and will shake your spine out of shape. XD
One argument atleast is my experience for newer vehicles is that while i do enjoy a manual more and a dct is faster. in the longrun if you use your vehicle enthusiestically/ especially if you modify the engine a dct will more then likely be cheaper in the longrun. Clutches arent cheap and while rebuilding a manual is substantially cheaper..its still not cheap😂. Atleast in the case of vws dsg and manual especially if you run any torque higher then factory the manuals blowup all the time i rarely hear of dsg problems and i and the mechanics ive talked to have never come across a catastrophic dsg on vehicles up too 450-500hp
I have only ever driven manual, and think it is great. But we also have to move away from fossil fuels. One thing that could work here could be biofuels.
I'm tired of people saying manuals are obsolete compared to modern automatics like this channel said. Plenty of people around the world still choose manuals over automatic, usa and australia in particular have people that just like automatics more. It's still down to preference. The only thing I will say is the obvious advantage of a modern automatic is that they are more fuel efficient. I'm tired of people saying driving through traffic sucks with manual....this is just personal preference period. I drove stick in miami traffic for about 5 years straight and also had the option to drive two different bmw sedans with similar specs but different transmissions, i also took the manual even in rush hour in Miami. I couldnt stand sitting in an automatic during rush hour
The funny thing is; within the actual "community" of manual drivers, there is also a superiority complex as well. If you don't heel-toe or powershift or double clutch, etc. you get labelled as amateur. I have an E46 M3 which I autocross, and when I started I was constantly reminded of my lacking shift skills. It took me a good year i'd say to properly learn to heel-toe. Slight irony!
Absolutely! In high school I would set rules for myself to learn. This week I only double clutch downshift. Next week I only heal toe lol. It was awkward and clunky but if you force yourself to do it, it works
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Learned how to drive manual about 7 months ago. My dad bought me an old 325xi and threw me right into it. it is incredible. I don't know if I could ever enjoy an automatic car more than a manual. Best thing ever
I'm still teaching my wife to drive my manual M2. She's doing well on driving on 1st gear now. I'll teach her upshift and downshift in the future.
I'm from Europe. More particularly 🇵🇹, we all learn how to drive a diesel manual car. In lessons, instructor said to lift the clutch and accelerate just a bit. After I got the license, I got a amazing deal on a car I 'wanted'. It was an automatic E90 320D. I still got it and drive it. I still know how to drive manuals, but lost most of the habit. I may stall the car in launches because of it. I prefer manual cars but automatic are pretty good and save alot of work. But if I could, I would have a manual again.
Learned how to drive manual in my uncle’s 930 Porsche when I was 17 😁.
That’s a good uncle
Come to think of it, my mom actually taught me how to drive stick in her 90's model grand am when I was 15 😄
Hell yeah mama!
Nice, man! My mom taught me to drive stick as well, when I was 18 and had just purchased my first WRX (02!). She learned on her 67 Merc Cougar... Can we rename the man pedal the mom pedal?!?
You’ve got an awesome mom
@@latentwagen8644 Haha nice and good idea!
@@yes8032 thanks! She definitely is 😊
I already hear al the europe comments
I'm European too and can drive manual
😂 I have already written such a comment 😂
because too few Americans can drive standard transmission
Hello from Germany.
I have learned to drive on a manual (Seat Leon). Here in Germany it's normal to drive a manual. We have a Skoda Fabia Manual, Citroen Berlingo Manual. My whole family drives manual, just my grandpa he drives an automatic 😂
I drive golf iv on manual too
In the UK; old people and people that are not very good drivers drive automatics. However, DCT PDK etc etc are more exceptions and are often more preferable to track driving.
@@KirillGavrilenko with modern cars it’s the same in Germany, people want the automatic, because it’s less to do while driving.
Manuals are now also pretty much reserved for the sports versions.
Anyway how is it going for you in the Ukraine?
I hope you and your family are good man!
which year? I have a 2000 Seat León 20vt
The positive for manual transmissions is the lower cost of spare parts and lower complexity which means lower labour cost and fewer parts to service during preventive or corrective maintenance.
keeping manuals alive means buying any and every manual car you can...buying new - not used. This also goes for any style of car you'd like to see more of...a hot used market does nothing for future R&D and lineup.
Ehh... cars are going to be electric eventually so driving manual won't be necessary
@@carsondwayne Cars won't be all electric if you continue to buy gas cars. And the electric future isn't as soon as it seems
@@alh06 Yeah ok you can believe that if you want
@@alh06 Government policies will always be above what consumers want. ICE will eventually be banned, so even if you want a gas car, you won't be able to get one.
Also, before you call me a Tesla fanboy or something, I want to mention that I don't like Tesla and I like ICE cars just as much as EVs.
@@carsondwayne Likewise
"Manual Pyramid Scheme" Killed me 😂😂
In the U.K. when getting your license you're in the minority learning in an auto
Automatic license for those people that have 574 driving lessons and still fail tests lol
well I would say anywhere in Europe. Automatics are in minority here. But unfortunately minority which grows year over year :/
I’ve probably taught around 10 people. I don’t really mind letting people drive my car because there’s nothing they can’t do that 5 people before them haven’t done.
Amen to that. The amount of people buying manuals, driving it badly, just because they heard so... or following the hype...
I'd argue it's also tied to economic equality - most new car buyers are over the age of 30 and are buying vehicles for their families. I think there is a sizeable portion of people who would be willing to purchase manual vehicles, but that same demographic is more likely to work a part time job, have student debt, and thus buy a *used* manual car. So in conclusion - teach someone to drive a manual, discharge their student debt, and mandate a minimum wage of $20/hr :D
Dylan for prez
Dylan Tully I made a smart decision and went to an affordable state school and worked when I was in college. it's not fair to millions of people to take their tax payer money to bail out other's mistakes. Watch the documentary "free to choose" it explains why simply raising the minimum wage is not the answer.
I just bought my E90 M3 in DCT mostly because of your recommendation. Really enjoying it thus far - hate people that criticize my car for having the “wrong gear box,” or as you said, “not being man enough.”
There will always be someone who hates on your choices. They can make their own choices with their own money =). And congrats!
At the end of the day you still have a m3 😂
I agree that the macho attitude has to go! People act like driving a manual is this godly thing, when in reality your grandma can probably do it. These days, if enthusiasts are only willing to consider modern, manual cars, they're limiting themselves. Lots of flavors to try!
I was 13 when my mom took me to drive the first time. And of course, since I live in Brazil, everyone knows how to drive a manual. Funny thing is that a lot of people don't know how to drive an automatic here lol.
I absolutely love the ZF8; the fact that it locks the torque converter after 1st gear makes it so fun to drive. Yet it can be incredibly smooth when you need it. But I need a manual next!
I've driven a few Bimmers with the ZF8, and an M4 with the DCT: it's a great automatic, but still feels empty and lifeless compared to the 6-speed in my M240i
watermelon3878 _ true, that’s a great chassis and drivetrain combo. and cheaper than m2 or m2c which is dream. i think i want a 6mt e92 m3 or f80 if i can find one for a good price and spec but idk i still love this combo for a daily
I'll be honest I drove a manual for 20years, but after getting my m3 DCT, I love it, hitting that m button then shifting down to 3rd with the paddles, it's a rocket.... Beast of a car, but point is try a DCT and you would surprised how good they are
This. Easier in traffic, and faster to change gears, as well as more of them! No downsides.
@@richardhammer187 which cost more to maintain the dct ?
I want to learn manual but I don’t know anyone with a manual :(
Just buy one that's the best way to learn. When you have to learn in order to go anywhere you don't need any other motivation
Manual is easy and a ton of fun. Just bought a bmw 340i F30 manual, because i drove automatic often in the last years and it just isnt the same amount of fun. my next car may be Automatic, when i hit the 40s. but i LOVE manual on sporty cars
You don’t know to know anyone, you have TH-cam. I bought a manual car and taught myself through TH-cam.
Anyone can do it.
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No point in a manual car. When cars are starting to steer and drive themselves, not only do you look a little foolish asking for a manual, but you're also investing money in something that won't exist in the future.
Not to mention most people can't even shift gears faster than a modern day Toyota with an automatic transmission😂
My dad taught me before my license. I fell in love with it and found a stick shift Subaru Outback for my first car, and I drive it everyday. It really isn’t a hassle to drive at all. I’ve taught 2 of my friends how to drive on it already and they loved it once they figured it out!
The one thing i don't miss about a manual daily, is the occasional gentle crunch into second or 3rd on a FRIGID cold winter morning. That first shift at like 2500 rpm as you're warming up lol
Tedward yup. Sometimes it’s just part of the fun lol.
Tedward something wonderful about a manual, like you mentioned in your video is that it made the super cars of the era feel fast. Driving a slow manual car is so much better than driving a slow auto.
The Ferrari 456 is a great example of a bad auto ruining a car. I cannot imagine what a Testarossa would have felt like as an Auto
I feel like DCTs got a bad rep from previous iterations of it from transmissions like BMW’s SMG transmission in the E36/E46 M3 and the E60 M5. At the time there was no such thing as a DCT so manufactures had to get creative in making a quick shifting transmission for the track which were clunky and weird to operate but was a step forward in the creation of the DCT transmission. In my opinion If DCTs were given a chance from the beginning they probably would’ve been much more popular than they are today.
Very true. I would say that they never had the good manners of a torque converter auto at low speeds and it’s a shame. But that’s just the nature of a clutch I suppose
Exactly, many don’t recognize that DCT is a totally different transmission than SMG 1/2 found in the E36 & E46 M3. DCT with proper tuning is pretty much as quick as it gets, apart from PDK of course.
this video is so underrated, your content never misses a beat!
E92 M3 is my absolute dream car, such a gem of an engine especially with that insanely high redline what a hooligan car it would be for me. Hopefully someday I’ll be able to afford the maintenance and upkeep because that’s what would hold me back considering a 2013 can be had for less than 30k
The manual F type is dead sadly... Since it came out in 2015 my dad knew this was his modern dream car! Last year in October, he ordered the 3rd last manual f type ever produced and the actual last manual with a panoramic sunroof. Of course British racing green and brown seats! Such a great car!
Here in Germany everyone learns driving with a manual car during driving school, to me manual is much more fun in most cases, but for my Z4 35i I opted for the 7 speed DCT instead of manual still 🤷🏻♂️ For the E92 M3 the DCT seems better overall. Still I wanna have a manual car again one day
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Learned driving manual myself in a 14’ Subaru BRZ.. great Video 👍🏽
For those asking about 7:48, the song name is Yello - Oh Yeah.
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😂 I’m glad someone else appreciates that
POV: You crashed into the safety car in Gran Turismo 4 for the 80th time
I had to pause 3 minutes in because you hit two good points right away!
My mom always impressed my friends growing up because she could rip in a manual trans.
My wife learned to drive in an old 4spd pick-up truck and can drive anything-fast and scary-but can drive anything lol.
And my daughter that just got her permit will learn to drive standard before she graduates-I’m sure of it. And you’re right-there is definitely a learning curve with the paddles. Timing and controlling reflexes can be more challenging than one expects.
I daily my manual BRZ. No regrets and wouldn't trade it for most cars worth under 50-60k. I plan on driving a manual for as long as I can.
All about spreading the love! Totally agree that we gotta detach masculinity from manual transmission expertise. So stupid omg. Also, auto rev match in every manual car should be able to be turned off at the press of a button. Don’t make me go into sport mode or turn off traction control or any of that shit. Just. let. me. press. the. damn. button. Also, #respectthestickdrivingmoms
what we need is an SMG with an H pattern shifter: paddles for those that want fast, simple, easy shifts and an H pattern and clutch for those that want to do it themselves. In one car!
I think Volvo actually tried something like that before. I can't for the life of me remember the name of the car, but it was on an old episode of Top Gear!
yea saab did that before and it was a horrible transmission.
I think the 1970s Porsche automatic was like that. No clutch but the usual gates
Saab Sensonic
Binaural highlight at 7:48
Hmm love your pfp
what was that sound tho?
I drove a dct, it was fun and it was impressive with how fast it shifted, even so, i gotta have a manual. Had to teach myself, it was basically a life goal for me to learn.
I taught my younger sister to drive a manual in a not so easy to learn 3000GT VR-4! I just realized she has owned several manual cars, up to a Mazda 3.
Have you driven an E92 M3 with an Autosolutions short shifter? It’s a big difference. I have one in CT if you want to give it a try!
I have not but I’d be down, thanks!
Great choice buying this Beamer it seems like the perfect daily driver
A really cool car. 😎
My mom taught me to drive stick. 2006 Scion Xb, basically no power, but it was fun because you could drive it flat out pretty much everywhere, and never get going fast enough to get yourself into any trouble. She owned that car for 10+ years and it was a tank. Still one of the best manual drivers I know, and I thank her for introducing me to the pure enjoyment of shifting your own gears. “The Man Pedal” is a phrase only used by insecure men who think driving a manual makes them better than other drivers for some reason.
My problem is I have a tedious daily drive with heaps of stops and starts to uni and have to reverse parallel park on 25-30% grade hills and I just dont want to do that with a manual, I couldnt be bothered. Its a struggle for my car's DCT, it absolutely hates it and i feel bad for it ever time. If I could have a second car I totally would have it as a manual its just inconvenient as my only car.
This is why always left my friends drive my car just so I can hope they can have fun behind the wheel of it want to buy a manual themselves
DCT works well, as essentially it’s a manual with an automated clutch. I love the dct on my e92 M3 Comp pack.
Shorter gearing in the 7 speed suits the high revving nature of the S65 a lot more than the 6 speed. DCT isn’t the best, but it’s pretty great
People forget that the DCT is fundamentally a manual with a computer controlled clutch engagement mechanism. My perspective is it is both the best manual or the best automatic at the driver's choice.
You're thinking of SMG or old F1 gearboxes.. the DCT is fundamentally very different from a traditional manual. Hence, "dual clutch"
I used to be upset about watching manuals dissapear. But once I started with automatic gearboxes I dont wanna go back 😂
Veteran cars can have them.
And some newer cars if they have +300hp. Might be fun then. But regular slow boring cars has no use for a manual stick. Its just unecessary.
If im gonna do the extra work with stick and clutch. It has to be worth it 😅
In Poland probably all drivers can drive a manual. Manual gearboxes in Poland are as common as automatic gearboxes in the US.
Taught myself in my 1998 Honda prelude and also own a frs I let people learn manual in
Also one of my buddies down the street let me drive his automatic 86 and I have to say its a fun floppy paddle
This conversation will be a thing of the past when EVs dominate the market worldwide in a few years.
Hi from the Netherlands! one thing that really blows my mind is how the AT market has dominated the US for a very long time! Here in the EU, you would always have to pay extra for an AT, and then they wouldn't even be on par with the manual like you said. Here in the Netherlands, you do your driver's lessons and exam with a manual. you can opt for an automatic but that does get a note on your driver's license which prohibits you from driving a manual car! If at some point you want to start driving a manual car, you have to retake your driving exam in a manual car (and most of the time some driving lessons are very much recommended!).
Only recently there's a visible shift in cars that are sold as automatics (without any upcharge). like you said, it's becoming a numbers game. and nowadays automatics have 8 gears (or even more in some cases) providing better fuel economy which obviously is a big thing here in the EU.
Had a 2012 Focus with a 5 speed and loved it, then traded it for a Jeep with a auto 9 speed (Pure junk) and hated it, finally just traded it off on a 6 speed Kia Forte GT and love it again. I've offered to teach people but no one wants to even try...
The teaching point is very valid. In Switzerland, it used to be that you weren't allowed to drive a manual car if you did your licence with an automatic car. So that's why almost everyone took the manual car license and is able to operate such a car. But a short while ago, they changed the law and it's now possible to drive a manual car even with an automatic license.
Because they assume that very few cars will be available with a manual in the future (EVs etc) and that this old license system is no longer needed.
Of course this also means that the amount of people actually knowing how to use a manual will get smaller...
Just a curiosity, in Brazil most of our cars still being manual. I don't know exactly why, but the automatic transmission started to be a trend just in the middles of 2000's. When we have the lessons to get our driver license, all the cars are manual, so in fact, everybody that has a driver license in Brazil knows how to drive with the stick. #SaveTheManuals
Manual in bmw’s are rubbery crap with long throws. And I own a manual m3 (which is far better than smg). DCT definitely fits the e92 and F80 M cars better than manual. They’re too big of a car to be in manual anyway
I hope everyone and I who hasn’t been taught stick, will gets their chance. I had one lesson before in a ‘07 Mazda 3. It is the most connected car experience between car and driver. Nothing was more exciting than that. In a manual, I feel like you and the car become one. It’s like an illusion to me.
When I get taught in a ‘67 Fastback soon, I wonder how the Mustang will change me and my love for cars.
here in Spain we usually see the whole "oh i drive a manual ok" personality a lot of US youtubers have like "do you want a prize or something? a pin to show people?" cuz like, even my grandma drives manual, the weird thing here is seeing people with automatics that aren't old people
Back then my dad used to teach me manual, now seems like my dad wants to buy me auto as my first car...
I started to love driving a stick, Im 15 just got my learners permit in June ish. Planning on getting a manual for my first car.
everybody really loves the dct in the e92m3 i want it in manny but dct just seems the better option
I am from germany and in my opinion, the best is when u can choose. So if you learned how to drive a manual you simply can drive every version of a car. For those who don't know: In Germany if u get your driver's license for automatic, you'e not alowed to drive a manual. In the other case u are alowed to drive both. It is listed in the license.
So how is it in america or other countries?
People who gatekeep being a 'car guy' over whether or not your car is manual or auto make being part of the hobby exhausting. I drive and own cars in both automatic and manual. Both are fine. If it's an old car from the 80s or 90s I will probably choose a manual because the torque converter automatics of that era are garbage and unfun to drive, but even modern torque converted autos not just DCTs can be made to shift quick and hold onto gears. Add paddle shifters and they are almost as fun as a manual.
Manual cars might dissapear from new cars, but manual will never go away. Never. There will always be manuals driving around, and there will always be people taking their license with a manual so it always has to be available.
Manufacturers should however, make it possible to choose between real manual and automatic.
I’m so glad I’m a manual.
i used to be only person out of all my friends who liked manual cars (in high school when no one had a car) and now almost all my friends are learning to drive manual
i’ve successfully taught 3 of my friends manual, and 2 of them actually went and bought manual cars. the 3rd guy will probably get one when his current car gives up
It's kind of fucked up to rent someone's car so someone can learn stick on it. Unless they knew and agreed to it.
Put on the parking brake and don’t let them roll away?
Great explanation!!
Also, remind me never to rent you my car...
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I just went to an italian car show and this lady with a fiat 500 abarth had a shirt that said "Real women use three pedals".
I have a hyundai kona with a DCT, I am learning how to drive it properly and I like it so far!
like 15% of cars in the US are manuals lol who makes fun of ppl driving automatics when it's actually rare to find a stick shift
My wife prefers manuals, too. So not only can we drive each others' cars, there's no disagreement over what to buy next!
The nature in your area is so beautiful. So much green 😍.
Summers are great here
Mazda with the mx5 are the only one that put priority on manual box now, there are a couple of others but they come and go and its hard to beat a mx5 gbox , better than any Porsche shifter I've tried yet, great video dude cheers...
Nissan with the Z.
i had one automatic then my trans blew and i manual swapped it. it was my daily now i have 4 manual cars, and im really considering another automatic for a daily.
Brilliant.Teach more people to drive manual. Such a simple yet effective solution. I will always own a manual. I definitely don't miss it in my daily like I thought I would, but again a DCT is great daily and does have a learning curve. And you have to hone your craft frequently with the manual. And maybe we could call it a badass pedal, since people who can properly drive a manual are badass?
A thing that many US citizens don't know is the fact that in Europe or partically the European Union you have to do your driving test on a manual or if you don't you're not allowed to drive a car with a clutch pedal which is shown with a certain number on your driving license. So the first car as a cheap option is then of course mostly a manual.
Moreover fuel is way!! more expensive in over here than in the US so for long that little fuel consumption advantage was enough of a selling point and moreover most cars have pretty small engines to be more frugal so an automatic would've killed all perfomance that was left. Now more and more cars are coming with good automatics and we will go through the same process as the US does now in about 30 years.
I like a good manual any day but I also have an E500 W211 M273 with an automatic and even if they'd sold with a manual I still choose the automatic because come on a Mercedes has to be automatic period. Moreover Mercedes manuals suck and their automatics are supreme. Just drive a Mercedes RWD with a manual and you'll understand.
multi-level manual scheme
I think that driving schools should teach manual first. If you know manual you can hop into an automatic or dct and get your head around it within some minutes. If you only know auto and hop into a manual you will have to learn how to drive again basically.
On my 2nd manual e92 m3 if I could do it again I would have gotten an auto e93 m3
It’s so weird with this car. I wish the manual box felt like a gt3. I’d own it over the dct without question.
I don't get your point. Manuals are just more fun, no matter what car are you driving. Supercars could make total sense with manuals if you are not just chasing lap times or 0-60 mph. It's also about involvment with the car, and involvment is precisely what you whant in any type of sport car, not just numbers. You feel you will not be able to drive a new Ferrari eith a manual? fine, just get the automatic, but at least as an option should by a manual version.
Luxury car are the only ones I could understand if they exclusively come with an automatic transmission.
(I apologize for my english).
I like both.
I prefer an auto for daily driving, sitting in traffic with a manual transmission isn't enjoyable at all I daily drive a 530d with the fabulous ZF gearbox, for that purpose it's perfect; quiet, relaxed and silent.
If you ask me a manual has its place in a weekend toy. It's just a sheer joy hooning up and down the twisties, preferably in an analog car without any electronics. For that purpose I have an RX-7 FD3S with a big single turbo. It's the complete opposite; loud, exhausting and tries to kill you if you don't respect it, but is so rewarding to drive and so well balanced!
For me neither is per se better, either one has its purpose and that's fine!
My mom taught me stick when I got my first car, a Mini, while my dad has no clue how to operate one! The “man pedal” to him is the accelerator hahaha
nice opinion dude I have a lot of respect for you
Thanks Justin
Here in Europe, if you want a cheap (used) car, it will be a manual in 95% of cases. Practically everyone: men, women, young or old... knows how to drive one and probably owned one. I have to admit though that slowly but steadily we're also reaching a turning point in favour of AT's when it comes to new cars, because they have indeed become so good.
0:04 living the RetroWave / Outrun / Miami Vice life for real :D
If one person appreciated it, it was worth it 😂
Remember back in couple years ago, back when I bought my first car, an e30 318i manual, i had never driven a car, let alone manuals, all my “driving experience” are from arcade games like battle gear 4, the one got actual 3 pedals and a gated shifter.
Anyway, so i called up the seller, told him to bring the car to my place, was super hotheaded so didnt even negotiated with the price, paid the guy and got the key. Since i didnt know how to drive a stick, a friend who “told me that he know how to drive” was with me, turned out he didnt know shit about it just like me, we were super awkward and asked the seller if he can teach us some basic and drive the car to the parking lot next to my place, the guy was super chill and taught us how to drive it at 10 pm at night. After learning the basic me and my friend were basically learning from youtube how to drive a manual thru out that night.
This is the story id tell my friend who wanted a manual but dont know/not sure how to drive one, just do it, you will get a grip on it after a few stalls.
11:22 that sound effect lol
We have to save the man clutch.
Your MOM bought an e90 M3?! You got one cool ass mom haha
Haha yeah she had hers first!
The thing with manual cars is that as time goes on they get harder to find & manual cars are more expensive. Are DCT M3s more expensive than manuals?
I like your vids a lot and agree with your perspective on “save the manuals.” Also what color interior is that, on camera at least it looks light blueish? Nice trim 👍🏼
I think it’s called silver novillo and yes definitely has blue in it. Thanks!
You just described me I have a stick A4 and a CVT Nissan as a daily
If i had the money i want one so bad the e92 is so fucking cool
Suacy POV footage as always ;)
Thanks!
Try Z4 with SMG...
I'm from a relatively poor European country that used to be occupied by Soviets, and when I look at local auto market, cheapest cars still come with manual only option. I too drive an old car (average ago of cars here are approximately 12 years) with manual, not really smoothly, but good enough to move around.
And if I really hate something, it's those drivers who break right before tram rails or cobblestone streets. F..! It's not like your car's suspension will fall apart from riding over that! Unless it's really stiff and will shake your spine out of shape. XD
Bro e92 6MT is one most amazing cars bmw ever built lol
One argument atleast is my experience for newer vehicles is that while i do enjoy a manual more and a dct is faster. in the longrun if you use your vehicle enthusiestically/ especially if you modify the engine a dct will more then likely be cheaper in the longrun. Clutches arent cheap and while rebuilding a manual is substantially cheaper..its still not cheap😂. Atleast in the case of vws dsg and manual especially if you run any torque higher then factory the manuals blowup all the time i rarely hear of dsg problems and i and the mechanics ive talked to have never come across a catastrophic dsg on vehicles up too 450-500hp
I have only ever driven manual, and think it is great. But we also have to move away from fossil fuels. One thing that could work here could be biofuels.
I drive a manual because I don't have money for an automatic transmission. next will be auto
I'm tired of people saying manuals are obsolete compared to modern automatics like this channel said. Plenty of people around the world still choose manuals over automatic, usa and australia in particular have people that just like automatics more. It's still down to preference. The only thing I will say is the obvious advantage of a modern automatic is that they are more fuel efficient. I'm tired of people saying driving through traffic sucks with manual....this is just personal preference period. I drove stick in miami traffic for about 5 years straight and also had the option to drive two different bmw sedans with similar specs but different transmissions, i also took the manual even in rush hour in Miami. I couldnt stand sitting in an automatic during rush hour
Can confirm, mom taught me how to drive manual in a '94 Integra
Heck yeah! Also that teggy must have been very cool
Well said sir .....🔥
The funny thing is; within the actual "community" of manual drivers, there is also a superiority complex as well. If you don't heel-toe or powershift or double clutch, etc. you get labelled as amateur. I have an E46 M3 which I autocross, and when I started I was constantly reminded of my lacking shift skills. It took me a good year i'd say to properly learn to heel-toe. Slight irony!
Absolutely! In high school I would set rules for myself to learn. This week I only double clutch downshift. Next week I only heal toe lol. It was awkward and clunky but if you force yourself to do it, it works