I could see the price making more sense if they included additional habs, that way you could have 1x1s, 2,x1s, and so on that could match the new style. But only providing a 2x2 hab feels like an odd decision.
Not even that, a full ship aesthetic package. Like having an out of place hab seems silly without a full matching set of things like landing gear, engines, cockpits. Etc
$10 would be an appropriate price for an extensive DLC that actually adds some decent content and functionality to the game. Like a functional expansion of the ship builder with many new parts and building options. But this? Maybe for people who have too much money and too low standards.
I mean... $10 bucks might also get you a weapon skin in another game. It's all too expensive, but it's not out of line from what other games are already charging.
@@wdavid4 Never forget that Bethesda pretty much started this abysmal trend in gaming with their horse armors! And for that alone, i'll NEVER give them my money anymore!
Ikr?! I posted on the sub hoping someone could recognise what tunes it is and so far I've had no luck. Rly want to know if they're sea shanties given the "Mariner" theme 😊
I would want at least a ship with all unique new parts for $10, including new cockpit, weapons, docker, engine, landing bay, cargos, and shields. A hab only is waaaaaaay below passing grade for a paid mod.
Well I shouldn't say the only "good" thing. The lighting options were desperately needed imo. Take your video for example....why should anyone need a flashlight to see things in a hab?
@@Buzz_329 The irony of that is Bethesda KNOWS about the lighting issues inside Habs, have TRIED to fix it and as you can see, I STILL have to use a flashlight to showcase Habs.
My problem with Creations is that there is no way to know if you are actually getting quality for the price. I would never pay $10 for something like this.
If price is the issue. What would be a good price on this? $4.99 feels more appropriate. An entire system of habs themed in pirate may warrant $10? I bet they are testing the market right now with this.^^
I think $2.99-$4.99 is good IF it was also an entire package, so one of each size + Cockpit and the 22 Decorations. Then, like you say, they could come out with other themed Ships.
@arnograbner4741 Really? No. And I won't but they are taking advantage of console owners and mo one told me this was gonna be part of a finished game when I paid for it. It's just bad, greedy behavior. If gamers don't call this kind of BS out, it'll just get worse. The fact gamers have been pre-ordering stuff that's crap or broke on release for years is why this greedy behavior continues and why they get away from it. But those gamers are growing up and maybe things will change. We, as gamers, created this mess. Now we have to get a clue and stand up against greedy bad behavior. Considering the decision they're selling are in the game already. They're just letting us use them now. They're not new creations.
I wish they made the PLAYERS OPTION: to place our LADDERS in the hab, in different areas..LOL 2:19 ...WOW that is a good looking MARINERS interior. 4:21...I love the empty variant , the best. Worth only a cup of coffee and cookie at our local coffee shop. LOL $12 cad 5:12... *A Clinometer* can be used to measure heights of trees, poles, towers, and buildings. You can also use it to measure slopes for preliminary surveying, grade work, and site drainage. Vertical angles can be measured as well for engineering and surveying projects, satellite and microwave dish installation and more. *A Marine Clinometer* ... are used to measure the inclination of a ship's hull, aiding in navigation and ensuring safety. Measuring the tilting of a ship is of utmost importance. If the ship tilts more when the waves are high (known as rolling of the ship) then it could lead to a ship capsizing. With the help of clinometers, it becomes easier to find whether the tilting of the ship is dangerous and within the danger-free limits. 5:21... *A Compass within a Wooden casing, for floating* It looks like to me...or its a *Barometers* , which are instrumental devices used to measure atmospheric pressure. In the maritime industry, these devices are invaluable for several reasons. One of their primary functions is predicting weather changes. 5:54...I love my *Area rugs* ...they help to set clear boundaries in rooms and transform one big room into distinct sitting areas.
I'm sure it's only a matter of time before a proper "Place Doors/Ladders" Mod is out officially. There's already been an unofficial version that had some issues now and again.
The silliest part for me is they had all thos creators in the video talking big ideas (Dude wants to build a Dyson Sphere)... actuality, one overpriced undecooked 2x2 hab.
@@charlescoryell4239 they were able to work with the ck for months. It was intentionally hold back to let them work on stuff, so they can sell something on release now.
@@charlescoryell4239the main curated gang of paid mods had access to the kit for a while longer Since they were working together directly with Bethesda.
My hope, stick with me here, is that for the $10 we get the 2x2 and 22 decorations now, then later on we get additional Habs/Cockpit and other pcs themed the same for free (as part of the initial $10 price). I know, it's a stretch considering BGS hasn't bothered to fix problems with Starfield that have existed for 9 months but hey, I guy can dream amiright.
@@delindsay I commented it elsewhere as well, but the shared interiors of the habs just feels like a smack to the face when they sell habs at such prices, Taiyo needs a new interior with Japanese Technozen style and Stroud the classic nordic style with wood, as it is having 4 of 5 manufacturers share a style with just a color swap is unacceptable.
@@mightywoll3 You're not wrong and I've had this conversation with others before. I feel like BGS started with Nova (as detailed as it is) then the suits realized how long and expensive it was going to be to create 4 more Staryards totally unique and to save costs they had them mirror sets.
They stole Captain Jack Sparrow's cabin and want to charge us $10 for it. Gaming in 2024 is indeed glorious! Thanks for covering it so I know not to waste my money.
whats hilarious is there, is a mod in the store for 5$'s that while isn't new models and such like this seems to be, it gives you multiple new parts with a crimson fleet theme.
It seems so out of place as a hab on the ship but the furniture is at least usuable at an outpost. Unless you use mutiple empty mariner habs and design them your way i'd say give it a try i guess
The part I dont understand is the scale of economoics of microtransactions. Selling 1 person an overpriced $10 item... or is it better to drop the price to 50 cents, and sell it to more than 20 people. Discount stores make more revenue than premium brands cause they have more customers
I'm 100% with you on that as I've run Companies most of my life and ALWAYS prefer a fair price for a reasonable product. Customers tend to be happier and the volume of product sales is higher thus less spoilage/waste (if you're in an Industry that has food for example).
@delindsay what's to his point even more, this is a digital item. It costs NO money to scale and replicate. Drop it by 5 dollars and sell it to thousands. I think this should be like 99cents per imo. 10 bucks should buy you a big pack of Habs
I bet a fair number of people will buy this simply because they couldn't have any mods before. Got to hand it to Bethesda for making mods easy to install and use but at the end of the day the market will decide if the price point is sustainable. For me If this mod encompassed the entire range of habs including workshops, etc. I would probably consider it but it's pretty jarring when you walk out of that into a completely different aesthetic.
I mean, someone will make one for free lol. Whoever at Bethesda said yep this is worth 10$ is crazy. There’s a mod that 7$ and that gives about 60 new items to outpost! Either way I think the hab looks good, but someone will make something similar for free thanks to the kit.
I bought the top package prior to release, so even though I don't have to pay, this is BS. What disappointed me most about Starfield was how lame the building turned out to be. This hab is what I envisioned us being able to do, not only in our ships, but in our bases. Instead we got army tents and quonset boxes. : / The only good news here is the release of creation club. Hopefully modders will now do what Starfield left out.
@@ryanremias My first response on reading your reply is to suggest you get outside and get some fresh air. A walk in nature can do wonders! To the first part of your reply, you are welcome you compare Starfield to other games, but I am not bound by that and chose not to. My focus was on Starfield, like it or not. To the second part of your reply, I will quote my post and wonder if you even read it, "The only good news here is the release of creation club. Hopefully modders will now do what Starfield left out." Sheesh!
Even worse in the UK where they basically just switched $ to £. So getting on for $13 (although I guess less if you buy credits in bulk). Like my hand is moving so quickly towards my wallet right now. Any time... Any time now...
The price does seem kinda high but I mean it’s all optional content, people could charge whatever they want for it. Would’ve been nice to get some more habs or ship parts with it tho. All in all I’m happy mod authors will be getting more money, and if Bethesda benefits enough it could serve as a market sample for other developers allowing this kind of extensive mod support in their games.
I crashed my Xbox about 10 times in one evening trying to do that. But hawt dayyyum the Villas look sweet AF. It's such a cool mod imo 🥰 half the builds are VERY skyrim vibes. You could basically build your own Whiterun on any planet you want. Plus Tank Girl put in some outdoor "street lamps" which are big epic looking wooden post things.
I spent $30, something on starfield thanks to gamepass. Just paid for the premium upgrade so i could play early. I still got the creation credits. Just a side note.
Back about Oct-Nov iirc, the Modding community was tired of waiting for the Creation Club and BGS kept stringing them along. I didn't hear much after that and now that it's finally out we'll get to see if it explodes with good Mods or kind of waffles.
@@delindsay The quest is also overpriced. Like, I finished the whole quest (only one) like in fifteen minute. The weapon is cool and outfit is fine, but that's it. Short quest, not worth $7 imo. For $3, would be ok. Quest is shorter than the free one with less narrative element...
@@delindsay I would say on the short side, but memorable. The quest takes place in a few locations and the ending made my heart race for a few seconds because I have the difficulty cranked way up.
@@GameBoyDame Indeed. Look, I enjoy Starfield and have like ~330 hours into it. I've made ~80 videos on it. But I also have a brain in my head and can realize that BGS no longer cares about actually finishing their games properly because they know Modders will do it for free. As example, Photo Mode inside Habs and general Hab lighting IS STILL BROKEN 9 months after launch.
@delindsay Don't forget the ECS constant location is still bugged for many players. Shattered space isn't even out yet, and they have the nerve to charge for $70 of "creations." This is what these shills defend. I'll sleep just fine at night, pirating these. Screw Bethesda and anyone who defends this trash.
@@delindsay The only way I see myself getting this is for the new outpost/ship decorations, since all of the new furnishings would go great with the TGS Luxury Homes outpost module creation (which I do have & plan on activating once I get all the achievements I actually care about).
FO4 DLC (not even mods!) where half that for entire thematic collections! Far Harbour was only $20 and that was MASSIVE. This is such a scam... Do we know what percentage the mod authors are getting?
I remember FO4, I think I bought all the DLC and yes, I felt like I got what I paid for. I don't know the % split but am considering getting into modding, it's just such a steep learning curve.
@@Paydirt90847 I hear ya, and yeah, as long as there are "whales" out there willing to buy every microtransaction from Studios, they'll continue to exist and get more ludicrous in price.
You have several locations that wouldn't do anything to the interior, but, I also wonder if the Devs went as far in detail to change how the wood work works with a Window cavity? Thanks for the suggestion, I'll test it out when I get time!
I think its kind of cool, but not $10 cool. People really need to not buy things like this, train corporations to not over price things to catch some whales. But as long as people buy things like this in enough numbers they will keep doing it.
As in you bought the Ancient Mariner, enabled it and went into the game and it's not in the HAB section (should be near the top)? Also, do you have other HAB type Mods enabled as well, if so try moving the Ancient Mariner to the bottom of the load order (last thing to load) and see if that fixes it.
@@monkishmeerkat Then the only thing I can suggest is contact Bethesda Support (be ready for a long wait to respond). help.bethesda.net/#en/home/product/1218
@@delindsay If they'd also given us a 2x1 version, I would have had no qualms. As it is, t haven't spent any of my "free" credits yet. Nothing was compelling enough that I was ready to.
Actually, he had the furniture in another space, so it seems like you do get the furniture pieces. Still not worth the money for me. This is not what I would put in a spaceship.
So the chest has unlimited space ? I can store all my resources/guns/clothes/food etc without having to go to the lodge every time to craft or upgrade something? I bought the CE so i have the 1000 points i just dont know what to use them on.
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@@delindsay To be fair Bethesda has stepped up their game since being bought. I see them fixing this one themselves, at least more than they have in the past anyway.
Very nice, but what happens if you move the hab or even remove it, do the contents of the chest gets properly moved to regular ship inventory? And i wonder if you can build the chest even if you don't use the hab for the current ship.
@@rolandsprenger9249 You're welcome and there will be more to come as Mods start trickling in to the official Creation Club. I'm going to hold off on doing videos about Mods not officially supported by Bethesda, at least for now.
100% no way Todd or anyone of the Suits at Bethesda care that "Modders are out doing them for free". It's more like "Hell yeah, they'll finish and fix our game with ZERO COST to us! Winning."
Yeah, apart from the unlimited storage chest, not worth $10. And besides, so different from any other habs available in the game and don't match the space theme. Pass. I'll wait for an unlimited storage chest available separately.
I think I've seen one of the rugs before, and maaaaybe one of the wooden end tables? But the other 20 decoration items are most definitely new. And that "treasure chest" being unlimited storage is DEFINITELY a new thing, even if it doesn't play nice with crafting benches/research tables. Neither does the safe in the Lodge, but lots of people use that.
I don't mind giving Modders "Tips" when I use great Mods they've created because all that money goes to them. When BGS does crap like this, I guarantee they're taking a cut of the Mod cost from the Modder (This Mod was created BY Bethesda so doesn't exactly fall under that category).
Kinda disappointed. If they did a whole series of these, with more hab variants and maybe even some structures, it would be worth it for ship building. But one hab that is off theme with the rest of the ship... I'll pass.
@delindsay I love the idea of small-time modders making small companies and making a profit instead of asking for donations. People complain about microtransactions, but I see a lot of TH-cam or Podcaster that complain about this crap switch to pay subscription based models to make a profit. I rather spend 10 dollars of my paycheck for someone doing hard work and creating a community than listening to someone tear community's down for likes and shares.
@@Digdoug82 As I stated in the video, this Hab was created by Bethesda not the Modding community. I agree with you that giving money to hard working Modders for great Mods is a good way to keep the community making great things.
Modders go to Bethesda asking to work with them, not the other way around. Lol They don’t recruit individual modders. They also make their own mods and have modders on staff. There were a few that didn’t qualify because in the past they profited from mods when Bethesda was asking them not to do so. One mod team even had their mods locked behind a paywall. Right now I’m enjoying the free mods. I may buy the town builder later. If I was a modder and I wanted to stop working for a company, then I would just stop. I wouldn’t announce it to anyone.
This is why I bought it, to showcase it to everyone so you all could make an informed decision whether to purchase or not. As I said, if it wasn't for making an informative video out of it, I doubt I would've paid $10 for a Hab and some decorations.
@delindsay this shit always pisses me off and then it amounts to nothing because community modders always do more and better but bethesda keeps trying to figure out how to profit off them and still get the benefits that Skyrim saw with modding.
@@wolfhors3_660 Tin foil hat time... I think secretly Bethesda enjoyed the bonus Revenue when Zenimax owned them and pushed them hard to monetize as much as possible to make the sale to Microsoft look better on paper. Once they got that cash bug, internal conversations were probably held to determine how to keep that rolling as much as what they could without the Players completely revolting (par for course with nearly all "AAA" Studios the past handful of years). And as you can see, not enough people pushed back against the monetization of Fallout76, Fallout Vaults or w/e it's called, and now Starfield. They TRIED with Fallout 4 and too many pushed back so they withdrew, but just bid their time.
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00:00 - Intro
02:20 - Normal
04:26 - Empty
05:04 - New Decorations
06:34 - My thoughts
I could see the price making more sense if they included additional habs, that way you could have 1x1s, 2,x1s, and so on that could match the new style. But only providing a 2x2 hab feels like an odd decision.
It does indeed.
The only other logic I see to justify this would be that they will continually update it with Habs and decor, you get for free
@@agentmaine8126 Let's hope so.
Not even that, a full ship aesthetic package. Like having an out of place hab seems silly without a full matching set of things like landing gear, engines, cockpits. Etc
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$10 would be an appropriate price for an extensive DLC that actually adds some decent content and functionality to the game. Like a functional expansion of the ship builder with many new parts and building options. But this? Maybe for people who have too much money and too low standards.
Accurate.
I mean... $10 bucks might also get you a weapon skin in another game. It's all too expensive, but it's not out of line from what other games are already charging.
@@wdavid4 Never forget that Bethesda pretty much started this abysmal trend in gaming with their horse armors! And for that alone, i'll NEVER give them my money anymore!
Record player starts playing.
Me: *MINUTEMEN RADIO FLASHBACKS*
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Ikr?! I posted on the sub hoping someone could recognise what tunes it is and so far I've had no luck. Rly want to know if they're sea shanties given the "Mariner" theme 😊
I would want at least a ship with all unique new parts for $10, including new cockpit, weapons, docker, engine, landing bay, cargos, and shields. A hab only is waaaaaaay below passing grade for a paid mod.
That's my take on it.
Why is the bed in the hallway?
HA! I asked myself the same question when I 1st saw it.
Only good thing here are the lighting options (lamps, chandeliers, etc) which currently there are NONE in starfield!
I do like the Chaise and Bed but I get you.
Well I shouldn't say the only "good" thing. The lighting options were desperately needed imo. Take your video for example....why should anyone need a flashlight to see things in a hab?
@@Buzz_329 The irony of that is Bethesda KNOWS about the lighting issues inside Habs, have TRIED to fix it and as you can see, I STILL have to use a flashlight to showcase Habs.
Yea I can't wait until the first high quality lighting ENB mod.
@@Buzz_329 👆
My problem with Creations is that there is no way to know if you are actually getting quality for the price. I would never pay $10 for something like this.
That's part of why I bought and showcased this one, so the Players could see it in detail and make an informed decision before they buy.
If price is the issue. What would be a good price on this? $4.99 feels more appropriate. An entire system of habs themed in pirate may warrant $10? I bet they are testing the market right now with this.^^
I think $2.99-$4.99 is good IF it was also an entire package, so one of each size + Cockpit and the 22 Decorations.
Then, like you say, they could come out with other themed Ships.
That's like Horse Armor DLC on Red Bull....
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Was gonna say the same. Definite horse armor vibes.
Horse armor was far worse. It was $5 in 2007? money and it gave less. This still sucks and is not worth it, but horse armor was far worse.
So I paid 55 for the game and they want to sell me a hab with decos for 10?
Yes. And $7 for a Quest too.
@@delindsay oof! How much is horse armor 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nobody force you to buy anything!
@@arnograbner4741 Nobody is forcing you to watch this video.
@arnograbner4741 Really? No. And I won't but they are taking advantage of console owners and mo one told me this was gonna be part of a finished game when I paid for it.
It's just bad, greedy behavior. If gamers don't call this kind of BS out, it'll just get worse. The fact gamers have been pre-ordering stuff that's crap or broke on release for years is why this greedy behavior continues and why they get away from it. But those gamers are growing up and maybe things will change. We, as gamers, created this mess. Now we have to get a clue and stand up against greedy bad behavior. Considering the decision they're selling are in the game already. They're just letting us use them now. They're not new creations.
I wish they made the PLAYERS OPTION: to place our LADDERS in the hab, in different areas..LOL
2:19 ...WOW that is a good looking MARINERS interior.
4:21...I love the empty variant , the best. Worth only a cup of coffee and cookie at our local coffee shop. LOL $12 cad
5:12... *A Clinometer* can be used to measure heights of trees, poles, towers, and buildings.
You can also use it to measure slopes for preliminary surveying, grade work, and site drainage.
Vertical angles can be measured as well for engineering and surveying projects, satellite and microwave dish installation and more.
*A Marine Clinometer* ... are used to measure the inclination of a ship's hull, aiding in navigation and ensuring safety. Measuring the tilting of a ship is of utmost importance.
If the ship tilts more when the waves are high (known as rolling of the ship) then it could lead to a ship capsizing.
With the help of clinometers, it becomes easier to find whether the tilting of the ship is dangerous and within the danger-free limits.
5:21... *A Compass within a Wooden casing, for floating* It looks like to me...or its a
*Barometers* , which are instrumental devices used to measure atmospheric pressure. In the maritime industry, these devices are invaluable for several reasons. One of their primary functions is predicting weather changes.
5:54...I love my *Area rugs* ...they help to set clear boundaries in rooms and transform one big room into distinct sitting areas.
I'm sure it's only a matter of time before a proper "Place Doors/Ladders" Mod is out officially. There's already been an unofficial version that had some issues now and again.
@@delindsay Wow...can't wait till that Ladder mod comes out....I feel like I am playing Snake and Ladders in my 3 level ship..lol
@@kan-zee Agreed.
The silliest part for me is they had all thos creators in the video talking big ideas (Dude wants to build a Dyson Sphere)... actuality, one overpriced undecooked 2x2 hab.
... yeah...
The creation kit has been out for less than 24 hours
@@charlescoryell4239 Actually, by the time I recorded this video it had been out just a few hours.
@@charlescoryell4239 they were able to work with the ck for months. It was intentionally hold back to let them work on stuff, so they can sell something on release now.
@@charlescoryell4239the main curated gang of paid mods had access to the kit for a while longer
Since they were working together directly with Bethesda.
$10 for a single hab is a fucking joke.
My hope, stick with me here, is that for the $10 we get the 2x2 and 22 decorations now, then later on we get additional Habs/Cockpit and other pcs themed the same for free (as part of the initial $10 price).
I know, it's a stretch considering BGS hasn't bothered to fix problems with Starfield that have existed for 9 months but hey, I guy can dream amiright.
@@delindsay I commented it elsewhere as well, but the shared interiors of the habs just feels like a smack to the face when they sell habs at such prices, Taiyo needs a new interior with Japanese Technozen style and Stroud the classic nordic style with wood, as it is having 4 of 5 manufacturers share a style with just a color swap is unacceptable.
@@mightywoll3 You're not wrong and I've had this conversation with others before. I feel like BGS started with Nova (as detailed as it is) then the suits realized how long and expensive it was going to be to create 4 more Staryards totally unique and to save costs they had them mirror sets.
Well, bought the Premium Pack to play early access, sooo... I like wood, too 😏 Thanks for the great video (and for buying this to showcase it to us 😉)
You're welcome.
Knowing how Bethesda does things, they made only this one hab and will now rely on the modders to expand it out to other hab sizes using the CK.
And it's sad that you're probably correct.
Wow 6 Passengers for 1 Hab
I... didn't even notice that, good catch!
They stole Captain Jack Sparrow's cabin and want to charge us $10 for it. Gaming in 2024 is indeed glorious! Thanks for covering it so I know not to waste my money.
You're welcome.
whats hilarious is there, is a mod in the store for 5$'s that while isn't new models and such like this seems to be, it gives you multiple new parts with a crimson fleet theme.
There is indeed.
It seems so out of place as a hab on the ship but the furniture is at least usuable at an outpost. Unless you use mutiple empty mariner habs and design them your way i'd say give it a try i guess
They could have thrown together a solo or 2 person ship and just had a bounty hunter ship for $10
Agreed.
Yeah, never buying any creations. Big Beth can take those MTs and shove em.
I can't say I blame you.
The part I dont understand is the scale of economoics of microtransactions. Selling 1 person an overpriced $10 item... or is it better to drop the price to 50 cents, and sell it to more than 20 people.
Discount stores make more revenue than premium brands cause they have more customers
I'm 100% with you on that as I've run Companies most of my life and ALWAYS prefer a fair price for a reasonable product. Customers tend to be happier and the volume of product sales is higher thus less spoilage/waste (if you're in an Industry that has food for example).
@delindsay what's to his point even more, this is a digital item. It costs NO money to scale and replicate. Drop it by 5 dollars and sell it to thousands. I think this should be like 99cents per imo. 10 bucks should buy you a big pack of Habs
I bet a fair number of people will buy this simply because they couldn't have any mods before. Got to hand it to Bethesda for making mods easy to install and use but at the end of the day the market will decide if the price point is sustainable.
For me If this mod encompassed the entire range of habs including workshops, etc. I would probably consider it but it's pretty jarring when you walk out of that into a completely different aesthetic.
@@TheHst2112 That's pretty much the consensus, people would likely buy it IF it was a suite of Habs instead of just one.
I think the business plan is charge $10 X people buy it at $10, wait 6 months drop the price and get those people who they lost due to cost.
Rediculous they don't just add it free of cost. At least they could make it maybe 5 bucks at the most.
The price is certainly a bit much for what they delivered imho.
I mean, someone will make one for free lol. Whoever at Bethesda said yep this is worth 10$ is crazy. There’s a mod that 7$ and that gives about 60 new items to outpost! Either way I think the hab looks good, but someone will make something similar for free thanks to the kit.
Agreed.
I really like that aesthetic. Just not sure if I like it $10 worth, but maybe. Would be more worthwhile if it also included a 2x3 and 3x3
BTW, thanks for reviewing CC content. I haven't upgraded yet, so I've been curious what's there.
@@douglasb5651 No worries and you're welcome.
I bought the top package prior to release, so even though I don't have to pay, this is BS. What disappointed me most about Starfield was how lame the building turned out to be. This hab is what I envisioned us being able to do, not only in our ships, but in our bases. Instead we got army tents and quonset boxes. : /
The only good news here is the release of creation club. Hopefully modders will now do what Starfield left out.
You're 100% on point here.
@@ryanremias My first response on reading your reply is to suggest you get outside and get some fresh air. A walk in nature can do wonders!
To the first part of your reply, you are welcome you compare Starfield to other games, but I am not bound by that and chose not to. My focus was on Starfield, like it or not.
To the second part of your reply, I will quote my post and wonder if you even read it, "The only good news here is the release of creation club. Hopefully modders will now do what Starfield left out."
Sheesh!
10 bucks should be a decently small sized DLC, no idea why someone thinks this is worth 10 bucks.
I don't think there are many Players who think this is worth $10, yet here we are.
Even worse in the UK where they basically just switched $ to £. So getting on for $13 (although I guess less if you buy credits in bulk).
Like my hand is moving so quickly towards my wallet right now. Any time... Any time now...
Yikes.
there's a lot of furniture i like
Yeah, the Chaise and bed are my favs.
The price does seem kinda high but I mean it’s all optional content, people could charge whatever they want for it. Would’ve been nice to get some more habs or ship parts with it tho. All in all I’m happy mod authors will be getting more money, and if Bethesda benefits enough it could serve as a market sample for other developers allowing this kind of extensive mod support in their games.
As I stated in the video, this isn't from a Modder, it's Bethesda official.
@@delindsay yeah I know, still doesn’t change anything I said.
Are you going to do the $6 luxury homes mod? Looks interesting but no one has showcased it yet.
I'll think about it. I don't usually showcase Outpost things but I'm not against it because it does look cool.
@delinsay @starbirds5128, @MillsBuilds did it, just so you know...
@@RawenWarCrow Ok good to know, thanks.
@@RawenWarCrow yeah but not all of the habs as it would “take hours” nor did they show all the rooms in what they did show.
I crashed my Xbox about 10 times in one evening trying to do that. But hawt dayyyum the Villas look sweet AF. It's such a cool mod imo 🥰 half the builds are VERY skyrim vibes. You could basically build your own Whiterun on any planet you want. Plus Tank Girl put in some outdoor "street lamps" which are big epic looking wooden post things.
Interesting , Thank You .
Welcome.
I spent $30, something on starfield thanks to gamepass. Just paid for the premium upgrade so i could play early. I still got the creation credits.
Just a side note.
6:54...Why are MODDERs thinking of abandoning Bethesda ??
Back about Oct-Nov iirc, the Modding community was tired of waiting for the Creation Club and BGS kept stringing them along. I didn't hear much after that and now that it's finally out we'll get to see if it explodes with good Mods or kind of waffles.
At least the 700 credit Trackers Alliance quest seems to have been worth it. I enjoyed it.
May I ask, how many Quests did you get for that $7? Was it a long chain, short one, memorable, etc?
@@delindsay The quest is also overpriced. Like, I finished the whole quest (only one) like in fifteen minute. The weapon is cool and outfit is fine, but that's it. Short quest, not worth $7 imo. For $3, would be ok. Quest is shorter than the free one with less narrative element...
@@Zaraphiel That's just... shitty imho.
@@delindsay I would say on the short side, but memorable. The quest takes place in a few locations and the ending made my heart race for a few seconds because I have the difficulty cranked way up.
@@bradleys6646 Fair enough and thanks for your input.
People were absolutley dogpilling in me for saying I wanted to pirate these mods....
"Todd the God" Cult out in full force bashing anyone who dares to criticize Bethesda after the creation Club dropped and we saw BGS' greed.
@@delindsay It's insane how brainwashed most people are.
@@GameBoyDame Indeed. Look, I enjoy Starfield and have like ~330 hours into it. I've made ~80 videos on it. But I also have a brain in my head and can realize that BGS no longer cares about actually finishing their games properly because they know Modders will do it for free.
As example, Photo Mode inside Habs and general Hab lighting IS STILL BROKEN 9 months after launch.
@delindsay Don't forget the ECS constant location is still bugged for many players. Shattered space isn't even out yet, and they have the nerve to charge for $70 of "creations." This is what these shills defend. I'll sleep just fine at night, pirating these. Screw Bethesda and anyone who defends this trash.
While this is pretty cool & has some cool new furniture options, I would have to say that Elianora's Crimson Fleet hab set is a far, far better deal.
The Crimson Fleet set is 100% a superior deal!
@@delindsay The only way I see myself getting this is for the new outpost/ship decorations, since all of the new furnishings would go great with the TGS Luxury Homes outpost module creation (which I do have & plan on activating once I get all the achievements I actually care about).
@@DJ_Bonebraker I can totally see several of these pcs in those Luxury Homes.
$10 for one hab. No
If they had created an entire suite of Habs, each size, and Cockpit to match then maybe.
FO4 DLC (not even mods!) where half that for entire thematic collections! Far Harbour was only $20 and that was MASSIVE. This is such a scam...
Do we know what percentage the mod authors are getting?
I remember FO4, I think I bought all the DLC and yes, I felt like I got what I paid for.
I don't know the % split but am considering getting into modding, it's just such a steep learning curve.
Thanks for the tour!
It's too expensive for what it is. Like the interior of the hab but without a head it is useless for me.
Fair point.
Ten bucks? for a single hab? No fucking way. not a chance. Thats predatory.
"But, but... it's Bethesda... they can do no wrong!" says the Todd the God cult whenever anyone points out any flaw with a BGS game lol.
@@delindsay😂lmao, it do be like that sometimes. Its a shame its gone like this is really is, but what can ya do
@@Paydirt90847 I hear ya, and yeah, as long as there are "whales" out there willing to buy every microtransaction from Studios, they'll continue to exist and get more ludicrous in price.
This should be a kit with at least 4 different sizes in the same style, for the price.
Or one of each size, complete and empty + a Cockpit.
I wonder what the hab looks like with windows...
You have several locations that wouldn't do anything to the interior, but, I also wonder if the Devs went as far in detail to change how the wood work works with a Window cavity? Thanks for the suggestion, I'll test it out when I get time!
I'll w8 till it's inevitable free during some time in a few years from now.
I'm sure there will be sales, packages (for cheap), "free" promotion periods, etc.
I think its kind of cool, but not $10 cool. People really need to not buy things like this, train corporations to not over price things to catch some whales. But as long as people buy things like this in enough numbers they will keep doing it.
I'm seeing it only getting worse in the past handful of years.
Do we have console mod support yet? I might try it out if so, but there’s no way in hell I’m paying for creation club lol
The Patch notes specify Steam users, so PC only at this time.
There's more than the hab btw, there's a BUNCH of decorations you can place.
Try watching all of the video before commenting in future! 🙄
@@paulchurchill5045 😆
Mine don't work, it doesn't show up.
As in you bought the Ancient Mariner, enabled it and went into the game and it's not in the HAB section (should be near the top)? Also, do you have other HAB type Mods enabled as well, if so try moving the Ancient Mariner to the bottom of the load order (last thing to load) and see if that fixes it.
@@delindsay I don't have any other mods overlapping it or anything and I tried moving it around in the load order but still nothing.
@@monkishmeerkat Then the only thing I can suggest is contact Bethesda Support (be ready for a long wait to respond).
help.bethesda.net/#en/home/product/1218
That chest is kinda good but the price tho :/
Wish they at least gave us more habs than just 1
Like 1 of each type of Hab size maybe.
@@delindsay If they'd also given us a 2x1 version, I would have had no qualms. As it is, t haven't spent any of my "free" credits yet. Nothing was compelling enough that I was ready to.
@@lisaarmato6911 Fair enough.
It's nice, but not worth ten dollars, if the hab came in different sizes or you got the furniture to use in other places, maybe then.
Actually, he had the furniture in another space, so it seems like you do get the furniture pieces. Still not worth the money for me. This is not what I would put in a spaceship.
You get 22 pcs of Furniture as well.
Bethesda has given us all Stockholm syndrome.
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So the chest has unlimited space ? I can store all my resources/guns/clothes/food etc without having to go to the lodge every time to craft or upgrade something? I bought the CE so i have the 1000 points i just dont know what to use them on.
IT does, it just isn't available to craft FROM. You'll have to pull items out for that.
@@delindsay that works for me. As long as i dont have to keep going back and forth from the lodge.
Not worth it but I’m not opposed to other real money rooms coming. Hell I pay for ships in Starcitizen so this is cheap
Fair.
One hab for $10 is certainly not worth it. Even with the items. Hopefully we'll get better ship mods from creators.
I have no doubt Modders are going to go ape shit on Starfield, fixing all of it in short order.
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It's like it was more fun making the fab model (for devs) than it is buying and using it in game. :) No gameplay value.
We are paying for Bethesda employees to have fun making a game, rather than them making a fun game.
@@NicholasWilliams-uk9xu Indeed.
@@NicholasWilliams-uk9xu Perfectly said!
Will just wait until a modder does the same for free. I've got the 1100 credits. But I'm not using all of it on one mod. That's just crazy. lol
Oh I have no doubt Modders are going to completely fix the game, make it into what we should've all gotten 9 months ago.
@@delindsay To be fair Bethesda has stepped up their game since being bought. I see them fixing this one themselves, at least more than they have in the past anyway.
@@crazytastie Here's hoping that's accurate.
Very nice, but what happens if you move the hab or even remove it, do the contents of the chest gets properly moved to regular ship inventory? And i wonder if you can build the chest even if you don't use the hab for the current ship.
Yes, they do. It was a change made for the 1.11.36 patch. And yes, the Chest works in your Outpost also.
@@delindsay Oh nice, so just owning the creation unlocks the new recipes then.
@@rolandsprenger9249 Correct.
@@delindsay Excellent, thanks a lot for doing these test videos 👍
@@rolandsprenger9249 You're welcome and there will be more to come as Mods start trickling in to the official Creation Club. I'm going to hold off on doing videos about Mods not officially supported by Bethesda, at least for now.
Really that's what you get for 10 bucks. Tod how does it feel to have moders out doing you for free.
100% no way Todd or anyone of the Suits at Bethesda care that "Modders are out doing them for free". It's more like "Hell yeah, they'll finish and fix our game with ZERO COST to us! Winning."
Good god that’s minuteman music!!!!
I didn't realize that, good catch.
is the hab free to add to the ship without using credits
No.
Yeah, apart from the unlimited storage chest, not worth $10. And besides, so different from any other habs available in the game and don't match the space theme. Pass. I'll wait for an unlimited storage chest available separately.
Fair point.
If they did sell the chest separately it will probably still be 10 dollars so buying the hab will be cheaper.
@@lasko24 Probably.
Can the exterior be painted like normal habs?
Yes, it paints just like any other Hab.
$10 for one Hab is just a scam at this point
Hard to argue with that logic.
Are any of these actually new or are they assets that are already in the game that have just been turned into usable items?
I don't have a good answer for that unfortunately.
I think I've seen one of the rugs before, and maaaaybe one of the wooden end tables? But the other 20 decoration items are most definitely new. And that "treasure chest" being unlimited storage is DEFINITELY a new thing, even if it doesn't play nice with crafting benches/research tables. Neither does the safe in the Lodge, but lots of people use that.
For a single hab, maybe $1 at most. No way is this worth $10. Will not get it.
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Not gonna pay for mods lol. Not a cent.
I don't mind giving Modders "Tips" when I use great Mods they've created because all that money goes to them. When BGS does crap like this, I guarantee they're taking a cut of the Mod cost from the Modder (This Mod was created BY Bethesda so doesn't exactly fall under that category).
It's pretty cool hab, but as 10$ paid mod its quite shameless greed and show how totally out of touch they are.
Unfortunately.
Don't you get 2 new outfits and a gun? And the hab?
The Gun skin, Suit and Observatory are the Free Mods (from BGS), this one (also from BGS) is the $10 option.
Is this a joke? 10 usd for that?
I think these days it's a running theme with "AAA" Studios, 1 upping each other as to whom can be the most scummy.
I'm willing to pay for some good content, but this is underwhelming. It's just dark, feels like a submarine. A bed in the hallway?
Bed in the hallway indeed.
Kinda disappointed. If they did a whole series of these, with more hab variants and maybe even some structures, it would be worth it for ship building. But one hab that is off theme with the rest of the ship... I'll pass.
Fair point indeed.
Thanks for your video, keeping my hard earned money in my bank, let's hope the moding community doe's better?
I'm 100% positive there will be a complete overhaul of the Ship builder by Modders. It may not be one all inclusive Mod, but it'll happen.
Muy caro por lo que tiene pero es bonito.
Agreed, looks great but expensive.
It's ridiculous. This is far far worse than horse armor.
But, but, Bed in a hallway!
Well worth it
I mean, as long as you're happy with the purchase.
@@delindsay loving this and the prefab home mods. Creations are amazing
@@Digdoug82 The Creation Kit is absolutely a great addition (that should've been available from day 1) I'm just iffy on micro transactions in general.
@delindsay I love the idea of small-time modders making small companies and making a profit instead of asking for donations. People complain about microtransactions, but I see a lot of TH-cam or Podcaster that complain about this crap switch to pay subscription based models to make a profit. I rather spend 10 dollars of my paycheck for someone doing hard work and creating a community than listening to someone tear community's down for likes and shares.
@@Digdoug82 As I stated in the video, this Hab was created by Bethesda not the Modding community. I agree with you that giving money to hard working Modders for great Mods is a good way to keep the community making great things.
Modders go to Bethesda asking to work with them, not the other way around. Lol
They don’t recruit individual modders. They also make their own mods and have modders on staff. There were a few that didn’t qualify because in the past they profited from mods when Bethesda was asking them not to do so. One mod team even had their mods locked behind a paywall.
Right now I’m enjoying the free mods. I may buy the town builder later.
If I was a modder and I wanted to stop working for a company, then I would just stop. I wouldn’t announce it to anyone.
nope. 😎
just pirate this shit, this is unacceptable.
If you figure out how let me know. I'm not paying $10 for this.
Hell no don’t even need to see this shit I refuse to pay shit for mods lmao
Nobody is "forcing" you to buy anything! So relax!
Fk that! Anyone that purchases crap like this is the ones destroying games . Let them keep that nonsense.
This is why I bought it, to showcase it to everyone so you all could make an informed decision whether to purchase or not. As I said, if it wasn't for making an informative video out of it, I doubt I would've paid $10 for a Hab and some decorations.
YOU will not tell me or other people how and for what I will spend MY money! Nobody is "forcing" you to buy anything!
@@arnograbner4741 NOBODY is telling YOU anything bro, move along.
So wait, Bethesda's pet modders didn't make this?
No, and I'd wager actual Modders will make superior options... for FREE.
@delindsay this shit always pisses me off and then it amounts to nothing because community modders always do more and better but bethesda keeps trying to figure out how to profit off them and still get the benefits that Skyrim saw with modding.
@@wolfhors3_660 I doubt they'll ever recapture the "magic" of Skyrim and it's success, no matter how hard they chase it.
@delindsay they could, they just won't.
@@wolfhors3_660 Tin foil hat time... I think secretly Bethesda enjoyed the bonus Revenue when Zenimax owned them and pushed them hard to monetize as much as possible to make the sale to Microsoft look better on paper.
Once they got that cash bug, internal conversations were probably held to determine how to keep that rolling as much as what they could without the Players completely revolting (par for course with nearly all "AAA" Studios the past handful of years).
And as you can see, not enough people pushed back against the monetization of Fallout76, Fallout Vaults or w/e it's called, and now Starfield. They TRIED with Fallout 4 and too many pushed back so they withdrew, but just bid their time.
Imagine being upset over the creation kit that just dropped 😂watch when those free mods start hitting like fo4 can't wait
I love your vids but I won't be watching anymore "creation" reviews. It's not you it's bethesda.
I don't blame you one bit. And no offense taken.
damn i figured it was gonna be bad but this is baaad bad. so bad i almost hit the dislike button lmao
Preaching to the choir!