GONDOR Vs RIVENDELL | Battle Report | Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ย. 2024
- This epic Battle report features the forces of Gondor and Rivendell against each other! Led by Boromir and Glorfindel, who will come out on top?
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Great vid gents, loved it. We still need to do a collab ;)
Couple of little rules slips but I know how easy it is to forget things when filming, I think the main one was glorfy calling heroic strength, you have to declare at the start of the phase, not as you come to that fight during the phase.
Keep up the great work.
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Thanks! Yes we definitely need to collaborate!! Drop us a message, any time you want to come down and shoot some battles, we would be game!
As for the heroic Strength, we are terrible with getting things like that wrong as we have only ever played house rules lol. But just to clarify... what difference does it make if its the start of the phase or start of the fight? Would that actually make a difference?
@@HistoryoftheAges it actually can make a difference, i had this situation in an earlier tournament. In this situation there is army x and army y. The leader of army x has a higher fight value than the leader of army y. Lets says there are 2 combats, one combat includes leader x against one enemy model and another combat including leader y and another hero (any hero will do). Now there are two situations, one where you dont follow the order of heroic actions and one that does:
Situation one (not following order): you solve the fight with leader x against a single enemy first, if the leader kills the enemy he cant do heroic actions anymore, so if the second fight is being solved. The leader y (lower fight value) can declare a heroic strike, and the other captain can call a heroic combat. As they will most likely win, leader y now has a higher fight value and can move directly with the other captain to leader x, who has a lower fight value now. Leader x will most likely die now as he can do nothing against it but fight.
Situation two (following the order):
At the start of the fase, leader y calls a heroic strike and the lower hero declares a heroic combat, leader x now has the opportunity to think about the consequences of these actions, so he can spend might too to declare his heroic strike, to make his fight higher (which might save him for being killed).
I hope this helps :)
@@HistoryoftheAges amazing video by the way man! Really enjoyed watching. I need to go play games more often lol.
I've only just started getting back into the hobby after over a decade's hiatus, and I have to say the production value is immense for this. I've watched a fair few batreps over the past few days and this one is by far the best. I hope you guys get back to producing more regularly, you've definitely earned a new subscriber today!
Thanks so much!! Check today's upload for an update on what we're doing going forward 😁
Elves would seem a lot less OP if you didn't throw away your knights and shelter your combat monster hero for fear of S3 shooting. You can't pay points for heroes like Boromir and not get any use out of them.
Yes. Mistakes were made.
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Boromir is really good, but really only if you bring the horse and banner. In that case the fight value would actually have been the same between rangers and normal elves. That's how the more competive MT is mostly played I believe. If one person brings a acceptably competitive list and the other doesn't that doesn't mean elves are OP. they are a solid middle of the pack army in competitiveness I think.
Gotta hit them heroic moves when priority isn't going your way!!!
Hey Guys, love your battlereports! Dynamic and entertaining!
If I might add some constructive criticism:
- If you shoot on a rider, 1-3 hits the mount, 4-6 the rider
- Elvenblades decide the battle in the favour of the bearer from 3-6, not 4-6 as usual
- You might look up Heroic Combats for more dynamic battles
I hope I could help! Keep up the great work!
Yeah we have tried to explain this stuff to them for a while now.
Yeah I was surprised that there were no heroic combats, I’ve only been playing a few weeks but even I remember to use them often. With a beast like Boromir having 6 might, he should have been going crazy in combat
Yeah some mistakes were made. But its inevitable when you are playing, filming and presenting all at once haha. There was some Heroic actions used in combat though in this? But how might is used is a tactical decision, sometimes its better to keep the might to affect dice scores rather than use heroic actions
And heroic strike... Boromir should have striked against Glorfindel.. a no brainer....
Plus Erestor can re-roll to wound
Love this scenario. Good creativity of what could have happened if things went differently in the TA!
Glad you enjoyed! :D
Strength of Minas tirith is in the hammer and anvil. Shield wall with the soldiers takes them to defense 7 making them nearly unkillable by regular troops and then the anvil of boromir and your knights and you’ve beaten the elves! Great game fellas! Keep it coming!
Correction, hammer of boromir and the knights and the troops are the anvil.
What’s the hammer then?
@@Fernandotsui123 Boromir and the knights. Basically your killing power vs. the wall that ties up units in you regs that have shieldwall.
Boromir still will only be wounding on 5/6s
Loved the battle report, the productive values are great !
On the tie with Faramir, I think it would have gone to the elf warrior because elven weapons change the roll off from 123-456 to 12-3456.
When shooting at cav you don't choose if you hit the horse or rider like when striking. you roll, 1-3 hits Mount 4-6 hits rider (note some mounts are so big your more likely to hit them then the rider I.E. fell beast and chariots
Erestor has re-roll to wound on both combat and his throwing daggers (which he also has)
Love the intro and battlefield images 👌 😍
You shouldnt be able to choose who you shoot right? It should be 1-3 horse/4-6 rider
i feel like that was a little loose with the knights.
17:40 - Good to have that gentlemens agreement in place, but you're really missing a trick there. Dismounting models is a huge advantage, I saw you taking it from a points level which is a smart way to work out if it's worth doing something or not - but dismounting a knight, even more so when it's a hero, you absolutely should hit the mount. Not only are you more likely to kill, they take a thrown rider test. Then when priority comes around again, you don't mind because he isn't getting a charge bonus on you with a lance and you're more likely to win the fight as he is now throwing one less dice. There's also the point that he can't shoot off with his horse and grab an objective near the game end. That will and does decide games.
Enjoying the enthusiasm. Be careful when moving your models as I think it looked like it was a bit loose at times. A good practice is to move one model carefully with its full allowance, and then move up those that were behind it quickly, as you've set yourself a little marker. When the knights engaged the first time there was a bit of shuffling the opposing players models about and that shouldn't happen. It's a game of measurements after all.
As others have said, don't be afraid of the bows. Combat heroes need to get their points back so get them in there and get chopping. Heroic combats would be very helpful but that comes later. Don't be afraid to get archers into combat with the rest of your force. Rangers in particular can have spears and have higher fight values than regular troops so definitely worth getting stuck in.
Also, love the theme pitch going into the battle report. Makes it much more fun and easily invested in. Good job guys!
On the upper left corner i see a host of unpainted, yet primed miniatures. Way to go brothers, this is the way of the true wargamer 🤣
Haha that is nothing... off camera we have literally HUNDREDs of unpainted minis. I would say close to a thousand if im honest.
@@HistoryoftheAgeshaha, same problem here. Great job on the wargaming channel and on the lore one(broken sword)!
love ur videos guys. On this here and the lore ones over at tbs. Love mespg tho i would love to see some lotr rpg stuff. Idk if you guys are in to that tho.>3
Thanks! Yeah we would love to!! Just need people to play with haha
@@HistoryoftheAges yeah that is true lol
Love seeing mesbg
Faramir Captain of Gondor failed to show his quality 🤦♂️
Awesome setup!
Thanks! :D
Wait shouldn't the elves be knocked down when charged by Cav? I didn't really see that happen
Excellent video chaps
I used to use a laser pointer with a visible line to check which archers could shoot 👍
That's a good idea!
Great content!
You should improve with your might and heroes management, but that's improve with time!
straight up rooting for gondor
The Quality of your Videos are great.
Yes there is improvement on your gameplay but you know that already.
I hope that you make more BR soon. 1per month should be possible. I mean you have over 200k followers
Not a fan of the negative comments during the game.
I get it’s frustrating when dice do dice, but as soon as you go negative you’re fighting yourself too
Just what I need to relax and kill time!
Awsome stuff and Nice Star Wars helmets by the way!
Hope you enjoyed :)
Electronic music is bit too distracting I'm afraid :/
Noted.
so many errors..:(
i find elf armys not that powerful. its useally there heros that do the job, the elfs are meant to survive as long as they can with shielding and shooting. but once they start losing combats and potentually there numbers they are done. and honestly, a lot of other heros can contend well with the elven heros, boromir, arargorn, azog, balg, majority of monsters, other shooting, so many things can ruin a elf players day.
its why i like mass armys like moria goblins, you dont generally care if one dies, you know you will wear the enemy down.
Elrond as a general is undefeated
Lost the war against sauron in eregion
@@Dryan91 he was tasked with rescuing the noldor and holding out.....which he did. He was not there to drive Sauron out. If that was the case, they would have had to have far more troops.
I gotta say, I didn't like how you said if we listened to the intro, like we are not captivated by your video from the get go. You should have more confidence guys you are awesome.
Haha. Thanks
I feel like James is winning about 7-1 in this series now
Truthfully Gondor would be capable of over running Imladris.
Imladris is full of choke points. Surely it'd be a bloody siege!
@@christopherp72 it wouldn't be pretty. But just the sheer number of warriors in Gondor, Osgilioth, Pelargir, Greater Gondor.....Minis Tirith......yeah, elves are BRUTAL TOUGH MURDER MACHINES but the armies if Gondor are super battle hardened.
Bad deal for Elrond, Elrohir and Eledan.
@@christopherp72 and the Duindain (my spelling sucks) would probably side with Rivendell
@@judowrestlerka Gondor might have the tiniest fraction of a chance as long as they don't have to cross any rivers.
They would first have to find it…
Salty much.
Both insufferable whiners
Hahaha. Why?
@@HistoryoftheAges Nonsense, you guys banter and interact like any true gamer. I’ve thrown dice and cursed the dice gods many times. I didn’t see any of that here…excellent self control.👍🏻😬