Against All Hope: Chris Herren on Addiction, Sobriety & Redemption | Rich Roll Podcast
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- Former NBA player Chris Herren recounts his battle with drug & alcohol addiction, his path to sobriety, and why service is key to his recovery. To read more about Chris and peruse the full show notes, go here👉🏾bit.ly/richroll794
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00:00:00 Intro
00:02:48 Speaking to College & HS Athletes
00:06:34 The Importance of 12-Step
00:08:16 Painting a Picture of Early Childhood
00:09:03 "Cocaine became my therapy"
00:12:44 The Struggle with Addiction and Fear of Failure
00:14:22 Fall River was a Tough Town
00:15:33 Bill Reynolds as a Mentor
00:17:59 Introduction to Alcohol
00:20:45 Dorm Room Cocaine Experience
00:22:52 Cocaine was my truth seum
00:25:24 Failing Boston College Drug Tests
00:26:17 The Pain of Disappointing Mom
00:26:39 Advice to Your 18 Year-Old Self
00:28:35 Jerry Tarkanian's Belief in Second Chances
00:30:17 Back to Show
00:31:15 Emotion Instead of Talent
00:37:27 Starting His Pro Career in Denver w/Mentors
00:38:36 How Getting Traded to Boston "Broke me"
00:40:08 Playing Basketball in Europe
00:40:41 Denying the Help of an Opiod Blocker
00:41:52 Getting Up to 1600MG of Oxy a Day
00:42:49 Taking Oxy Before Big Games
00:46:47 Traveling to Europe with Oxy
00:48:13 Sting-Turned-Silent Intervention in Istanbul
00:51:15 How "Unguarded" Came to Be the Doc It Is
00:52:42 More About the Pivot from "Worst Day" to "First Day" with Students
00:55:03 Speaking to your Inner Child
00:56:53 Returning to the Addiction Story
00:58:38 Where the House of Cards Finally Falls: Schoolbus Story
01:00:08 Having Suicidal Thoughts in the Ambulance after OD
01:03:26 How Addiction makes a Family Sick
01:04:47 Story of How a Nurse Intervened to Save his Life
01:05:22 How He Got Introduced to Chris Mullin
01:06:00 Never Meeting the Man Who Put Me in Treatment
01:08:31 Turning Life Around at the Pot Sink
01:12:59 The Impact of Sharing Personal Stories
01:19:43 Celebrating 15 Years of Sobreity
01:24:16 Need for Mental Health Support in Sports
01:27:24 Advice to Parents: Rely on Professionals
01:28:56 The Importance of Being Vulnerable with Your Kids
01:30:31 Marijuana Psychosis
01:34:51 The Holistic Approach at Herren Wellness Center
01:36:45 Criticism of Short-Term Treatment Programs
01:38:45 Predictors of Long-Term Sobriety
01:41:04 The Honor and Responsibility of Helping Others
01:48:09 The Power of Storytelling
01:53:15 The Freedom of Recovery
01:55:24 Credits
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The Herren Project sponsored my son Michael for sobriety. I will be forever indebted for this gift. Unfortunately, he came home on Thanksgiving and used that night and died. In his memory, money was raised to hopefully support another kid in his or her recovery. I am trying to speak on his behalf and share his story Thank you to the Herren Project for giving me the strength to do this.
im so sorry for your loss. You are incredibly strong, I wish u the best.
I wish I knew what to say. I send love, gratitude and respect for your strength.
They obviously trained him for the dangers upon release.
Great program.
Your story, life experience riveted me . Your direct explanation belies an indescribable level of torment .
I’m so sorry. There are really no words for the grief you must feel.
Man, this was my all-time favorite guests that you've had on here. I'm in the middle battling addiction, and this conversation has really given me hope.
We are here for you. You got this
You can do it! Don’t think twice!
We hear you, we see you; you're not alone.
Hold on to that hope, and don't let go. The storm will pass and you'll come out stronger and wiser.
We believe in you!
Surrender is the answer. No more fighting against or battling against addiction.
Complete and total surrender is key.
Then you can work on and for a new way of life. Through a total change of personality.
This will change your reality.
Keep comin back. Just keep comin back. That's how it starts 👍
This dude is the real deal. I met him at a Highschool speaking in PA. He about 6’2 and he seemed 9 feet tall cause he’s my hero
From someone who's been down this road this was just one of the best podcasts I've ever listened to.
I was in rehab watching a video on him and i got a call my brother died...i got it and im still sober
"Hurt people hurt people." That's a powerful statement!
I was in a halfway house with Chris when i was 20, I was chaotic and getting high while I was there. I ended up getting thrown out and as I was leaving with my irish suit case he stopped me and told me I wasnt ready for the life I was about to live...He was right. Great human, we used to play basketball to kill time, he never took a single shot.
Very interesting story and wish you the best with your recovery. Also...was him not taking a shot some type of metaphor or something to benefit you or do you know why?
Hopefully you have found recovery 🙏. I'm 37, had my first recovery experience at 20, and relapsed. It wasn't easy, and not recommended, as I almost died many times, but I have found recovery for the past 5 years, but do the math, it took many stumbles to get here
Hoping this gives ya hope friend 🙏
I can relate, been booted from many sober homes
@@markwest8960 well I think the answer is very simple, when you’re dominant in any sport or martial art, it’s not fun to just school your partner with dominance , what’s more fun is allowing them to work by lowering your speed and movement to allow them to even have a chance to “play the game” in jiu-jitsu it’s what most black belts will do if they’re mature
And wise , it’s what rare lower belts do and I guess it could be a metaphor for life, something like :games aren’t fun if you don’t have a real challenge , and sometimes
You gotta step down your abilities to make it a challenge and make it fun .
Thinking of my young self brought tears to my eyes. I was out there for 30 years.. Happy to say I have 2 and a half years sober now.. This guy is a true hero
My rock bottom was when I was 34 . Been sober now for 7 years now . Never going back to that sinful life . Sometimes no matter what you tell a kid ….they have to go through it themselves. We all have our own journey 🙏 get help if you need it
Alcohol is so normalized & socially accepted but is behind so much evil in this world. We need our God-given inhibitions. I wish more people could see Alcohol for what it is
Alcohol is poison. Drunkards will not inherit the Kingdom of God.
Jesus Christ Crucified for your sin is the only way to Salvation. Do not love the world or the things of the world.
@@kate60read the rest of the chapter. Don't just quote one verse.
@@kate60 its people like you that say these things that don't allow people to grow and get better. Please stop this toxic mindset. You are not helping many.
I remember the story of Chris. He graduated a year before me. I went to New Bedford High, which was the city 20 min. from Fall River. I had no idea the depth of what he went through. I’m so sorry for all his pain, but I believe his true calling is what he is doing now. He has an amazing rehab centers but I have heard it’s extremely hard to get into. Not sure if that’s true. I love his honesty and reliability. Keep changing people lives!! God bless you Chris!
My mother was/is an alcoholic. My entire childhood, and even into university, my lief consisted of fighting to keep her alive. Trying to convince her to quit. Trying to believe she loves me even though she used me, manipulated me, just to get her next drink. I never thought I would be the same. But lately, I've been drinking more and more, using it as an excuse to calm myself, when having to work at home, when socialising, even when home alone when there is something in the fridge or cabinet. Just because it's there. I am scared, I see it slowly creeping in. But I haven't had enough self discipline or control to stop... This podcast hit me hard. Thank you.
Please go to wn aa meeting and share what u just said
They will understand and let u be you.
God bless ,💜
@@shirleyfrost9909 thank you. I've decided to do Dry January. I've shared this with a few close friends, and trust that I will commit and make it through.
Unquestionably one of the most impactful conversations you’ve had here, a deep gratitude to you both. My loved one is struggling with alcohol addiction and while he’s begun the work of recovery, he’s not ready for AA. So I chose to care for myself and also lead the way by attending my first Al-Anon meeting a few days ago. I will definitely be returning. Recovery is for everyone and it is possible. ❤
Go to your doctor and get on naltrexone 50mg daily prescription. It immediately curbs the craving for alcohol. Non-opioid and non-addictive. Research it. No need to struggle. No need for AA or counseling.
😊awesome. Ive stayed off the booze for over 1 month, it really does get easy. Lots of steak and some fun hobbies do the trick
Addicts are some of the strongest people I've ever met, and some of the wisest. The pull of that addiction is intense. Two books that have helped some people are The Easy Way by Carr and 30 Days to Sobriety by Harper Daniels for mindfulness exercises. It's a mission that one goes on to recover. My heart goes out to those who have been trapped a long time by the addiction.
You’re 100% correct
This is day 1 after another relapse in my battle to find and keep sobriety. Over the past year, both Chris and Rich have been amongst the voices that helped instill some hope in my heart during moments when thinking of another day was really difficult. Last Saturday after yet another bender finding this video was, for me, nothing short of a miracle. Thank you very much for everything you have been doing to show addicts and alcoholics, such as myself, that there is a way out of this path of suffering, misery and despair. You are a profound source of inspiration for this alcoholic here. May God bless you always!
I recently just did it. I got 4 months now and a baby on the way. You can do this man. It’s really tough but you can do it.
Aa helped me same as theee dudes. Just so you have something to do atlwast when your waiting for the obsession of the mind to leave you
AA has been a life saver for me. Just over 11 months alcohol free and loving my new life. Good luck on your journey to sobriety!!
Hey Luis,.I speak from experience when I tell you that giving up alcohol is like being reborn. I know it's not easy but you have to do this! When you stop you will fall in love with life 🫶🙏
I’m back on day 1 as well💖
Chris I lost both my father and husband to alcoholism and I really get it when you say that the relationship was too close for you to help your father. I lived that sense of helplessness too. Thankyou Rich and Chris. Best yet.
I think I was in 7 grade when I had my first Budweiser 40oz and that was it, I remember thinking I was a big shot hanging with the older guys. I wish I could go back in time and talk to myself but I’m so determined to be there for my children.
I know FOR SURE that hearing you guys stories is having an amazingly healthy impact on me. Please keep it up Rich , because not every one of us has access to therapists and AA meetings and there's a way to recover without professional help but no way one can do it totally by himself. Your podcast is gold for those of us struggling with low self esteem, addiction and lack of motivation to improve ourselfs but who are not totally out of control... Peace 🙏🙌
You obviously have access to YT, which means you have access to AA meetings on Zoom 24/7/365. "Get busy livin, or get busy dying"!
This is wild. I am 47 years sober...Thanks to a Message Carrier who showed up in 1992. And simply showed me how to get relief spiritually day by day. Without this woman I would have been long gone by now. In 2014 I had a 6 hour spine surgery. ONE day post op I was informed this Angel from God gently passed away
So happy for Chris. Glad to see where he's at today and everything he's accomplished in his sobriety. He's helped thousands. Fall River is a rough place. Tough city. A lot of people don't make it out. Chris now has the ability to give back to the youth there. That's his greatest gift.
To anyone out there who suffers from any type of addiction know that you are no less than any non “addict” we are all brothers and sisters going through life the best way we could.. no matter where you are you are not alone even if you feel lonely, there are good hearted people out there you extend your finger to them they reach out to you with their body and soul.
You are loved ❤
Thank u
I’m REALLY glad to here has physicians that can support those who are impacted by his story. Leaving them raw can be detrimental. I’ll have 15 years sober in January. Fully agree that year 12-15 were the hardest years for me as well. And reducing stigma is really key, words are powerful and matter. Covid was the hardest year in my recovery. But ‘by the grace of God’ - Congrats on 15 Chris! 👏🏻
Why was 12-15 hard for you?
You just get into recovery 2.0. You’re dealing with healing deeper roots not just the surface level stuff - that’s if you’re doing the work. That requires a lot of self reflection, honesty and transparency with yourself and others. It’s hard stuff. Plus Covid happened. We change quite a lot every 10 years, so it’s just natural evolution and facing the hard stuff - head on and sober.
@GretchenHoechner the reason I ask is I'm 15 month sober and to think it gets harder is a scary thought lol It is hard work, but it's good work, worthwhile work, the work we do on ourselves that is. I would rather this then continued destruction in addiction. Congrats on your clean time and good luck on your journey!
@@temprary580 yes always good work! much better than wasting your life away. Keep taking it one day, one hour at a time! My sobriety is like gold to me, no one can take away the hard work and time I've put in - let along the wisdom and character I've gained along the way. Plus you have the opportunity to help people! The whole point of sobriety is being sober-minded. Life is hard, but its much easier sober than drunk. :) (the easier softer way isn't reality) Encourage you to find a sponsor and get into some AA meetings if possible, makes things a lot easier!You got this.
@@temprary580lol I feel you on this one I’m 12 months clean I’m really good shape but 12 years of this pain and just gets harder all of sudden man just the words 12 to 15 hit her again makes me terrified 🙈🙈 lord and mercy
Wow what an incredible conversation. I related on so many levels. I have just celebrated 10 years clean and sober and COVID hit our fellowship so badly in South Africa. You have inspired me. Thank you so much!
This interview deserves 20 million views.
I have seen so many struggle with addiction. I can't imagine the how hard it is. His calling was to help other people, that is his gift 🌻👣✨️
My brother-in-law died a few months ago from alcoholism. He absolutely refused to stop, didn’t even try. It was like he felt invincible. When the doctor told him he was going to die, it was too late even if he stopped drinking, he looked utterly surprised.
I love this interview. My brother passed away age 56 basically due to alcohol problems. It was extremely hard for him and me. He also tried many things. I tried to help him several times. He was clean for many years paid everyone back he owed. But the alcohol kept coming back to him. The last day I physically saw him was the day I dropped him off after having an alcohol implant. He didn’t want it actually (2nd time) and was furious with me and the world. He died about a year after that. Complicated story. Very emotional for me this. I did speak to him on the phone for about 2 hours in the April. He died may 20th. I feel sometimes I should have tried harder to help. But I think some people just never get over their addictions. Well done to Rich and Chris for successfully quitting.
I’m so sorry. Hang in there.
You're correct sometime people can never get over their addiction. No matter what you say or try if the individual is too far along the addiction, its virtually impossible for them or anybody else to help them get back over it.
I’m so sorry ☮️💟✝️
I was a whiskey drinker for 20 years, I haven’t had a drop of alcohol in 3 1/2 years, I never went to rehab or any kind of meetings or 12 step program. I tapered down for 3 years. It was the hardest thing I ever did, I drank out of trauma relief, no one ever wakes up one day and says, let’s get fucked up and fuck up our family and life, it definitely poisons you slowly. I have no desire for it, but my life was completely shattered and I’m still trying to put it back together. So much to even go into. It definitely was Devine deliverance! ☮️💟✝️
I’m a 47 year old woman from Tulsa Oklahoma ❤️💜❤️
These guys look so heathy and calm it's hard to imagine them in the depths ... great podcast and thanks to Chris for his honesty
Beautiful seeing two amazing men be so transparent and raw. Thank you.
This has to be one of the best RR podcasts ever- I've listened to alot of them over the years and this is pure, unpolished, and powerful. Thank you for sharing.
Been waiting for this one. He is a big part of my sobriety.
its episodes like this that make this podcast so unique and incredible. thank you rich and Chris
Thank you Rich Roll. We need good hero stories like that of Chris Herren. He is as real as they come.
Just left a 30 day treatment center today. Im also from fall river, Massachusetts, YOU KNOW! Thank you chris and rich. Inspiring stuff
Thank you so much, guys. One of the best, beautiful episodes ever.
I'm 2 years 2 months sober. I was a daily drinker. It has been a deep experience what has been revealed to me. I was a bigger mess than I could see back then. It's true what they say, that the addict is blind to the ugliness of his/her disease.
I was no older than ten watching Chris at Selland Arena. My grandparents used to take me down to the floor when the players ran out and I’d high five him. I thought he was the coolest dude on the planet.
My sister committed suicide after an awful battle with addiction. My brother’s addiction has been ten times worse but he’s somehow still living and at this moment sober. Alcoholism, mental illness, and substance abuse were the prevailing themes throughout my childhood and young adult life, mostly spent in Fresno. It ravaged mine and so many other families I grew up with.
Today I’m on the other side at 34 and am living out most (if not all) of my dreams. But it could have been me. I got lucky, and walked through the right doors to meet the right people at the right time.
I’ll probably never meet Chris, but if by some twist of fate I do I’m going to give him a big ol’ hug. His story gives hope to those living in utter despair; the darkest corners of society. It makes me happy to see him and his family doing well. He deserves it.
As the daughter of a father in recovery, I am just so thrilled for Chris' children and the beautiful relationship he has built with them. Great podcast and once again struck by the ease with which you interview and speak with your guests, Rich. All the best to both of you.
I’m about six weeks off drugs. I’m having a day where I’m fighting that demon back. The reason I’m saying this to you is I’m about to be a dad. To a daughter in about two months. I needed this. Thanks for commenting
One day at a time, Kevin. I promise you, she will be so proud of you! She needs you!
Thank you Rich and Chris for such an impactful discussion that felt raw, vulnerable and oh so touching. I literally gave it 100% of my attention and it touched my core. Love the idea of ‘the first day’ rather than just the last. When I think about how far we, as broken toys, have come; we are all amazing. ❤
Thank-you I need this video today. I’m completely alone and struggling with alcohol.
The best defence against alcoholism is finding a way to be comfortable with the idea of never drinking again in your life. It’s the only solution. There’s no “fixing” alcoholism. There’s only life-long abstinence. Hang in there 😊
Anything is possible through- neuroplasticity, read Joe Dispenza and Andrew Huberman
Don't be alone. Never Alone Never Again.
Get a support group/network.
Slow down, take it a day at a time. Even one second at a time. Everyone has there own personal journey. Very similar to everyone else but slightly different, in our own personal way. Try,try,try and then try again.
Never give up, get upright and moving forward. You will find your way, when you find yourself. Love and Respect, Peace.✌
Find an AA meeting that is for women only, and start living in the solution, instead of the problem! "Struggling", "battling", and "fighting" will only lead to failure! Stop focusing on "not drinking", and start focusing on the root problem..."SELF"!
@@mcwaltertubeIt's called having a "spiritual condition"!
Although I didn’t succeed at a sport like Chris, I succeeded in other ways and I live with the fear as Chris does. I’m battling my own disease, and it comforts me to see this. I’ve admired Chris for quite some time. He’s my recovery hero, and I’m trying to get where he is.
This is one of the best conversations I have seen so far, on the podcast. I love watching Rich Rolls Podcasts , it has become my favorite and go to from day to day. Glad to have this staple in my collection. Thank you Rich. Peace Plants Namaste! Be still!
Thank you Rich for welcoming Chris Herron and his story, battles, journey and the powerful message he shared and shares daily. Chris’s story hit so close to my heart, by far my most favourite so far for me.
Thank you
Dave
What an incredible story. Chris is so honest, open and raw. I pray this gives hope to those who need it. What an inspiring human.
Brilliant statements about sleep and tracking and breathwork and meditation Best person to understand struggling and addiction.
One of the most impactful conversations. I have heard and talked with Chris many times. This conversation has me in tears several times. Sobriety is work and this was a raw conversation that shows that.
Thank you for the reminder to stay sober and prioritise beloved people and your goals over the addiction which brings only suffering and nothing else. Hug both of you 🤗
Chris Herren is a fantastic example of turning your pain into purpose. This guys documentary and interviews/speeches really helped me when I was in the midst of my opiate addiction. Thank you for everything Rich and Chris. Your work is appreciated!
I've seen damn near everything Chris has up on TH-cam. This conversation was incredible. Ive been to treatment to beat Adderall fairly successfully. Sadly im still not living my best life but dammit Chris gives me hope and inspiration. Love this guy!
I just quit Adderall last week. Did you deal with depression afterwards?
No words large enough- beyond grateful for this honest vulnerability xxx
Awesome interview. So glad they mentioned about reality of lots of recovery center don't care about recovery just a money business. I'm blessed for the gift of sobriety. Thank you God
This interview was intense and raw. You both have so much courage. Thank you for sharing your time with us.
My new favorite interview. I was familiar with Chris Herren's story. His recovery journey and commitment to helping others is commendable. Interesting that he never loved basketball. So glad that he found his purpose, it's gift to all of us. Just as RR is. Thank you RR & CH.
Dude looks great. Hats off to ya for stopping that poison going into your veins. Chris you inspired me to quit. Can't thank you enough.❤ Love my brother
Chris is Awesome The Pills Are The Worst January will Be 2 Years Sober For Me 💪🙏
A very moving and impactful conversation, and easily one of your best episodes, Rich. I’m grateful to you both for what you’ve shared and for your commitment to serving others.
This guys story is amazing, ive struggled my whole life, its a positive message for anyone of us, thank you.
"Struggling" is living in the problem. Sobriety is achieved by "Surrendering", and having the "Willingness" to actually move your feet differently!
I think Chris Herren's story is quite frankly one story than can't be over assessed, over heard, and over understood. He hasn't received the coverage he deserves and quite frankly I'm glad he did an interview with Rich Roll.
Thank you for the work you do, Rich. I've been sober for over five years and you, your book and this podcast were part of the community that helped me get there.
He came to my high school back in 2010 and I never will forget the lessons he taught that day.
What a amazing, powerful and raw conversation! Thank you both for this episode and being so vulnerable!!! ❤
4 months here, pure willpower, it’s very odd…I feel like I know a secret that not many know. Life changing.
Willpower? As a recovery person myself the root of change for an addict isn't willpower, it's surrendering.
Great. It was the willpower to say no for me. @@injacreatives9680
@@injacreatives9680
Yes indeed
Not will power
Higher Power
@@MsAdventure531 😂😂 no…
PTSD... Ruminating... Drug addiction, every time I go back there. Memories that are confusing good/bad. Repeating my history, sometimes I gloat about what an idiot I was. Imagine! Other times I am sick to my stomach or cry. For me, it is not a place to keep my thoughts for long, if at all. Maybe some fear of falling back.
I am a high school teacher and coach from Warwick, RI. Chris spoke at my school about ten years ago and his message continues to resonate and remain more relevant each day. I especially like the introduction of the marijuana psychosis portion he describes; this is what I see each day with my students and student-athletes. The impact marijuana is having on my high school students today is incredible. My students think there is nothing wrong with smoking weed all day. Many of them meet in the lavs to smoke, eat edibles, stay up all night, sleep in class etc. I try to have tough and honest conversations with them but the psychosis is real. Society is sending them the message that smoking weed is great and that everyone does it and that there are no risks involved in its use. I have read "Basketball Junkie" over and over again. I, too, have always been a Bill Reynolds fan. Please continue to do your great work!
I respect what you're saying but that sounds a bit one sided. I smoke almost everyday and have been for ten years to treat my anxiety disorders because I don't take Benzos, and not once have had psychosis or messed up my life because of just marijuana. But, for others it can ruin a lot of things. So yeah there are dangers to it, but it drastically differs for each individual. Its never been a problem for me. I've even gotten a 98 on a Biokinetics test I took in college where I was stoned off wax. It all depends
@@tommyroelroel4518 got you beat by then years yet it sill ruined my life when i got in an unrelated car accident but smelt like weed.
My two grand daughters started with pot in Minneapolis because all of their teen friends didn’t think it was a drug because it was legal in some states. They are now both addicted to fentanyl and 2 great grand kids in the system.
This was a fantastic podcast! Strong, raw and impactful. Thank you Chris and RR for your continued inspiration.
One of the best Rich Roll Podcast ever! Everyone who will listen to this podcast will be affect greatly by it, regardless if they are addict or not!
Beautiful message, great interview! I agree with Chris, change the negative language and the negative self talk taught in the 12 step rooms of recovery.
I’m 15 days sober off a wicked benzo battle and watched Chris’ 30 for 30 in rehab. Thank you Chris for the motivation.
Fair play one of the toughest detoxes worst than oxy, pregabs combined keep going.
I got a lot of inspiration from Chris and his words. It was the little spark that started the fire in me to get clean. Thanks, Chris!!
26:32 she does know you became sober. You did give it to her
This really helped. I needed to stop. Month no weed, 2 months no alcohol.
Wow.
So much humanity…
Thank you both forever for sharing your journeys with everyone and for the reminder to all of us, that we can do better for ourselves and each other
I wanted to express how much I enjoyed the message you both spoke. I have been in active use for the last 20 plus years, and have encountered allot of the issue's surrounding around how long it takes for someone to PROPERLY detox. That is an issue I personally can contribute to my lack of being successful in staying sober. Thank you both.
This is a great interview, Rich! What a story!
35 years sober here. A good friend of mine called me the other day and told me that a mutual acquaintance just passed away from an overdose. We were all in recovery at one point many years ago and he couldn’t continue the journey. He left two boys without a father. It’s so sad…
Just finished the book Dem0n Copperhead by Barbara Kingsolver yesterday, and oh my goodness. Her novel touches on addiction, childhood and gave my a perspective like no other.
Thank you for the encouraging podcast. The courage you both have to become sober for years is awesome in the true word. I appreciate the stories and truths told. Very inspirational and connect on some levels. Thanks again.
What a brave and humble interview. Thank you for this.
great interview. thankful for these conversations. bless.
A student of mine told me about Chris last year and when I looked him up I didn’t really find anything other than a few articles. This was the perfect format to hear his story and it resonated heavily with me. Thank you Rich for bringing out the best of your guest!
Why this is so good , when I get my own podcast I want Chris on my podcast. Me and him would be great friends in real life. I’m 3 years alcohol free !
Absolutely outstanding, thanks for the vulnerability and honesty, such an empowering listen. Love and gratitude 🥰🙏
This was SO AMAZING! What a hero! Both of them! Thank you!!!
Wow, I love your pod cast so much. So many of your episodes have genuinely changed the way I look at life and have helped guide me. This episode was so powerful. I love it. Thank you!
This was a fantastic podcast, great questions & conversation. Thank you both.
You continue to do meaningful work. Thank you Rich.
Best show I have ever seen! So inspirational. Thank you
Amazing. Two incredible men . Thank you for this.
What a freaking miracle you both are. I'm so grateful that I got to experience this podcast. Thank you, Rich.
Friend of Bill here! ✌️
Another awesome upload Rich, I'm stoked for this one. Besides making the NBA and being amazing at Fresno at the collegiate level (shout out to Tark and Skip), he was transcendental in High School - read Fall River Dreams.
Thank you for these posts. They are inspiring
I love this!! It spoke to my spirit!! Let's get it done!!!
What an inspiring episode. Thank you guys.
I love your brutal honesty what an incredible podcast. Both of you guys are warriors. Thank you soo much.
Richard please continue what you doing regarding substance abuse - God bless you
This is why you are here Rich. Awesome interview from the hart ❤ greetings from Holland
Incredible story of perseverance by Chris! You are blessed to have such an incredible wife and your story has helped the world 10x's over! Thank you for sharing. Thank you Rich for introducing me to Chris's story!
Had me in tears multiple times while driving. "I have to be there for my kids, they can't wonder where I am". Broke me
Wow! This is so inspiring! Thank you
Much respect! I'm glad Chris is doing better.
Loved this conversation 😊