Porsche Taycan Facelift Full Tour! Software, Range, Charging, Design, Suspension, & More Detailed

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  • Kyle visits the Porsche Development Centre Weissach to check out the new Taycan facelift! In this video he walks you through all of the updates to the 2025 model year including new features and improved performance across a wide range of competencies. Enjoy!
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  • @wiktorturo2417
    @wiktorturo2417 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

    Amazing what Porsche did with this car. Also I didn't noticed Kyle mentioning this in the video but regen went up form 290 to 400kW. Crazy numbers

    • @swimshadey
      @swimshadey 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Does this equate to a stronger 1PD feel?

    • @wiktorturo2417
      @wiktorturo2417 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@swimshadey I don't think so. In Taycan regen is implemented when you press the brake pedal. When off throttle car is mostly coasting.

    • @swecreations
      @swecreations 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That should mean this can probably out-range a lot of similar-horsepower ICE cars on the Nurburgring now with regen on.

    • @sub7up.
      @sub7up. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@swecreations Not at all, will stil consume 40% battery and regen heats the battery.. sadly it's stil one lap wonders at the ring if pushing it..

    • @swecreations
      @swecreations 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@sub7up. Maybe if Misha Charoudin is driving it but don't think you'll be getting 40% out of the battery in one lap. Also from what I saw they've been doing pretty well around the ring.

  • @benelliotschmitz7070
    @benelliotschmitz7070 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    such a great car. German engineering !!!

  • @abeatingheart
    @abeatingheart 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Nice refresh! Why reinvent the wheel? Update it with more power, endurance, and sportiness. Keeping it real since the Porsche 356.

  • @jeromeandre4915
    @jeromeandre4915 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    E-Porsches starting to grow on me with all these vids Kyle!

  • @KyleConner
    @KyleConner 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    If one of you guys could create chapters I’ll add them to the video! I’ll get to them by the end of the day but if you beat me that would be helpful as always. 🎉

    • @davidfujkk8018
      @davidfujkk8018 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If porsche really wants to beat every one in the game,they should use battery cells with over 450 wh/kg energy density,and they should manage to have a battery pack with atleast 400wh/kg in pack level energy density,CATL will massproduce it's automotive version semi solid state condensed battery early summer this year with over 450 wh/kg in cell energy density,porsche taycan turbo s weighs 2280 kg din which is 15 kg weight reduction and considering that much more power and range and battery size is amazing but if they manage to have CATL semi solid state battery in their taycan line up they will have 400 kg weight saving from the battery pack and they can reduce the weight of e drive units with another 80 kg from drive train,if they do this taycan turbo s will weigh 1800 kg din and a lot more range and performance i hope they will do what they should do to be the best

    • @jackhammer078jack4
      @jackhammer078jack4 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They did to focus on charging infrastructure

  • @dusty-vo8gh
    @dusty-vo8gh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Cool colab with Porsche. Nice seeing Porsche pushing the envelope on EV just like ICE.

  • @bullshitbingo2259
    @bullshitbingo2259 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Crazy quality tech and engineering which really pushes the industry forward

  • @florianhaffner3910
    @florianhaffner3910 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Porsches always have been amazing. Its impressive how they nailed it with their first EVs without prior experiences

    • @blob2092
      @blob2092 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      still far behind tesla, but still not bad. Too bad ferdinand porsche aint no Elon Musk

    • @nafnaf0
      @nafnaf0 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would say the first gen Taycan was just okay. Sure it did some things really well, but the range was kind of low, especially at the price point, the supported EV charging infrastructure wasn't and still isn't that great, it looked kind of ugly, it was very expensive, and had terrible depreciation (35% to 40% 5 year residuals, even worse with the 'Turbo' models). For this model, range has been significantly improved, it should support NACS, it looks better, it is still expensive, and depreciation is TBD at this point. It may be good enough overall to be considered a good, but still not great car overall. To contrast, cars like the 992 911 or BMW X5 45e PHEV are truly great cars

    • @user-qp2ex2ip6v
      @user-qp2ex2ip6v 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@blob2092how do you define the statement "Far behind Tesla" ? 😊
      Teslas claim mileage numbers that they can't deliver. The only advantage I see with Tesla compared to any other EV is, price and self drive features. Both have nothing to do with the car as an EV.

    • @airheart1
      @airheart1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠@@user-qp2ex2ip6vmm.. don’t forget actual OTA updates. You can’t understate the benefit of improving the vehicle endlessly and fixing little issues like ‘recalls’, with nothing but an overnight download. Do not kid yourself that Taycans haven’t been under multiple recalls that required service center visits, that Tesla would have fixed with an OTA update. It’s kind of a big deal imo. I’m NEVER going back to a car that can’t OTA update every aspect of the car, besides actual hardware changes. And there’s no reason Porsche can’t do this, except they lack the know how and integration in their systems. Pretty big negative in my book. But yeah, Taycan has quite a few pluses too. Not enough for me. CCS infrastructure.. cost and lack of bleeding edge tech, can’t be overcome by the ride, to me. I don’t need a track car. I want the smartest, bleeding edge tech vehicle I can get my hands on. Yeah, there’s other considerations too.. but for my use and needs, still only 1 option I see to date with the tech, speed and usability I want.

    • @user-qp2ex2ip6v
      @user-qp2ex2ip6v 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@airheart1 every EV including Nissan Leaf does OTA updates!!! I hope you realize OTA updates are just software. Anything to do with the car, no OTA is going to fix it. 😀
      I clearly said this... every EV has picked up what Tesla has. The only area Tesla has domination is FSD and Price. They can do that price maneuvers because they have their shoddy build quality. No magic happens without compromises boys!!!
      I hope you read that statement by Musk that BYD and other Chinese EVs can eat up EV market of many companies like Tesla!!! By the way, tesla is manufactured in China too 😂

  • @larsvaneynde4281
    @larsvaneynde4281 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    By far the best looking electric car on the market.

    • @lt6532
      @lt6532 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      By far the best car on the market

  • @Observerification
    @Observerification 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Porsche definitely needs to understand the crucial role of great team of software engineers for building great cars in this new era.

    • @josefv8708
      @josefv8708 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They have already. The New Chief of CARIAD, the Software Company within VAG, is now lead by the former Director from Google who developed Android Automotive and was the Software Lead at Rivian, too.

    • @LeeC_808
      @LeeC_808 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed. Pre-facelift version has so many gremlins and quirks

  • @berthogendoorn2133
    @berthogendoorn2133 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I can say you get what you pay for, truly a performance drivers car with top level tech, great Porsche, always improving your design!

  • @FarhoodEnsan
    @FarhoodEnsan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    That's a ~20% power density increase in the battery (going from 83 to 97 kwh while losing a couple percent of the weight too). Amazing progress! 100 kwh should definitely be the new standard with the density increases. I'd say 120 kwh at this weight and efficiency is where you start getting similar range to a gas car on 80 mph highway drives (350+ miles) and get a reliable 12 minute charge (assuming 5-55%) and 2:15-2:30 hr drive cycle which would be ideal. Currently my 2022 model 3 LR gives me a 12-14 minute charge and 1:30-1:45 hour highway drive cycle which is not bad, but can definitely be improved.

    • @swecreations
      @swecreations 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Think the fact this doesn't heavily drop off in charge speed past 50% like Teslas (at least the non-standard-range models, the ones with LFP batteries charge fast all the way) do will matter a lot as well. If Teslas could do 18-20 minutes to 80% like a lot of modern electric cars do then that 1:45 would be closer to 2:30-2:45. Instead they charge super rapidly to 50-60% and then 80% takes 25-30 minutes in total.
      Of course if you drive below 80 mph then 3-4 hours is easy.

  • @Cloxxki
    @Cloxxki 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    382 mi in internal testing...estimating the EPA range?
    WLTP 423 mi confirmed, it seems.

  • @LearningFast
    @LearningFast 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    I am good with the charging speed of this vehicle. I honestly wouldn’t ever need faster charging than this. I can’t go to the bathroom and get a soda faster than this will charge. That is good enough for me.

    • @ianpalin8318
      @ianpalin8318 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Because you will struggle to find a working charger, Tesla is king!

    • @obieWanmotivation
      @obieWanmotivation 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@ianpalin8318 Actually, (1) you won't struggle to find a working charger and (2) Porsche and most manufacturers will be using Tesla chargers by the end of this year through next year. Telsa is not king😂

    • @Harrythehun
      @Harrythehun 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree, soo glad that this fantastic car exists!!

    • @akhilsharma2712
      @akhilsharma2712 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@obieWanmotivation bro for 200k you get less hp than an 80k plaid; if you're rich then yes go ahead and buy this but for 99% it's a terrible value; just buy a gas Porsche instead or Model S Plaid

    • @BVZTIII
      @BVZTIII 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@akhilsharma2712 less hp, but a lot more car regardless. The 17 second difference between this one and the Plaid on *illegal* tires speaks a whole bible about how those drive.

  • @zachkane7378
    @zachkane7378 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You should let me put that Land Rover LEGO together and I'll Mail it back lol.

  • @pikachusolu1606
    @pikachusolu1606 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    porsche really is perfect man.. you can literally pick any model and it will be amazing. loving the new taycan. time to save up!

  • @andrewhurstcars
    @andrewhurstcars 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Porsche have made a big jump with this. Will be great in the Race to Vegas & 10% Denver challenges.

  • @ampedampson5140
    @ampedampson5140 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    please buy one kyle

  • @TesLatino
    @TesLatino 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wow. That was amazing. What an improvement! Well done by Porsche.

  • @amigajoe
    @amigajoe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I -love- the light-up badges on the id.4, and on this update !

  • @computercrack
    @computercrack 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    The Taycan just obliberates the competition. The CT is just epic and my dream car in this colour green +trim all blacked out. The suspension is the best in the world I can tell you and everything else is just awesome!!!

    • @hardywoodaway9912
      @hardywoodaway9912 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      the competition for 250k is pretty slim though

    • @TheMadmax0609
      @TheMadmax0609 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Almost no one will buy this car. It's $250k and there are better options for about 1/3rd the price.

    • @bullshitbingo2259
      @bullshitbingo2259 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​​​​​​​@@TheMadmax0609 EVERY higher end Porsche costs 100-250k and this just falls right in that price range. The competition is also in this price range. For Porsche customers the price is nothing to frown about.

    • @TheMadmax0609
      @TheMadmax0609 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bullshitbingo2259 this car has loses over 50% of its value in just 3 years... The software is buggy and Porsche is not good with updates. Also, Taycan sales have dropped over 40% YOY.
      Just because something is expensive doesn't mean it's good.. 👈 now you know

    • @TheMadmax0609
      @TheMadmax0609 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bullshitbingo2259 want to know something else that's going to open your eyes? In the last decade Porsche has only increased the 911 Turbo S horsepower by 110. Yet the price has increased from $160k to over $230k. 🤣
      Porsche owners are the biggest idiots in the world.. they buy a new Porsche, then park it in their garage to keep the miles off of it. They shell out money every month for insurance and then every 6 months they take their Porsches back to the dealership to have the oil changed and serviced for $2000.
      People are storing Porsches in their garages to keep the values up.. which enables Porsche to increase the MSRP of the same damn car every year without really upgrading it. 🤣🤣👏👏👏
      Imagine buying something, making insurance payments, and not using it.. brilliant idea. 👍

  • @Cloxxki
    @Cloxxki 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    On winding dry roads, the CarManiac team in Germany like the Taycan's active ride, said it was more comfortble than having you head be slung out in corners. Less movement in the seat. Perhaps they dialed it in. The extreme execution may actually be safer/faster?

  • @derjansan9564
    @derjansan9564 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I visited the Porsche Factory in Leipzig just yesterday, where they build the Panamera, Macan and Macan Electric. There were a few Oak Green Panameras there and they just stood out from allo the other ones. The color is so great for a Porsche.

  • @MWWOOD
    @MWWOOD 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    dannnnngggg that oak green😍

  • @LegginzPlans
    @LegginzPlans 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Will this taycan be compatible with Apple CarPlay 2.0?

  • @MatildaAndFriends
    @MatildaAndFriends 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ok, seriously want one of these now. Sigh, 2-3 years away - something to look forward to!

  • @Y2Kvids
    @Y2Kvids 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What is the ICE equivalent in KW , Charging Speed vs Pumping Fuel (@35% efficiency ) .

  • @wizkashifa
    @wizkashifa 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Saw this in the Macan configurator. I really like the light up Porsche nameplate in the tail lights, pretty sure it’s new.
    Car looks a bit more “taught” kinda like the Highland refresh.

  • @milesyounghamilton
    @milesyounghamilton 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would love Kyle to do a teach in series on EVs and technicals on low and high voltage, charging, suspension, chillers, motors and battery packs. I have an entry level understanding and what to learn more but it’s all quite technical

  • @gregkramer5588
    @gregkramer5588 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Nice job Kyle!

  • @LearningFast
    @LearningFast 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This car finally proves that an EV is just as viable as any ICE vehicle for a road trip especially once it gets access to the NACS Superchargers.

    • @mtnman1984
      @mtnman1984 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The updates also show how quickly this tech will improve as more manufacturers gain experience, or real world data, on their architectures.

    • @davidfujkk8018
      @davidfujkk8018 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If porsche really wants to beat every one in the game,they should use battery cells with over 450 wh/kg energy density,and they should manage to have a battery pack with atleast 400wh/kg in pack level energy density,CATL will massproduce it's automotive version semi solid state condensed battery early summer this year with over 450 wh/kg in cell energy density,porsche taycan turbo s weighs 2280 kg din which is 15 kg weight reduction and considering that more power and range and battery size is amazing but if they manage to have CATL semi solid state battery in their taycan line up they will have 400 kg weight saving from the battery pack and they can reduce the weight of e drive units with another 80 kg from drive train,if they do;this taycan turbo s will weigh 1800 kg din and a lot more range and performance i hope they will do what they should do to be the best

    • @IvanNedostal
      @IvanNedostal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@davidfujkk8018 Volkswagen Audi Group is planning something "big" in battery space, in few years, but until then, i think these speeds are absolutely nonissue. one coffee for 50% of range / 50 kWh .... PLENTY

    • @bellumCretatus
      @bellumCretatus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      At the moment NACS would make it worse. At 400V chargers like all Superchargers, Taycan charges dog slow.

    • @IvanNedostal
      @IvanNedostal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bellumCretatus dog slow in this case means exactly as tesla does?!

  • @chassdesk
    @chassdesk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want that green taycan so bad! Fire 🔥 so sick

  • @FthePump
    @FthePump 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love our Taycan, but these upgrades and range are so cool. Bummed we can’t have them.

  • @kekeseb
    @kekeseb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    @KyleConner Do you know if the "old" Taycan will get its software updated to the new UI and functionality?

    • @iMaxPatten
      @iMaxPatten 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Extremely unlikely - the new vehicle has a different chipset and OS entirely. The old Taycan may get updates still but it will not be the same system as this new one

    • @kekeseb
      @kekeseb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@iMaxPatten You didn't watch the video...

  • @mcunha81
    @mcunha81 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love how serious Porsche is taking the EV cars,great video

  • @ronald4life1
    @ronald4life1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing car, they really stepped it up. Hopefully it trickles down to the Etron GT as well

  • @wuchengranschiiet9992
    @wuchengranschiiet9992 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love it

  • @bwherry
    @bwherry 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So Kyle - didn't you have a Taycan on order? What's the latest on that? Transferring to an order of a refreshed version or...?

  • @vhol93
    @vhol93 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    awesomeeeeeeeeee !!!

  • @derekwalsh1935
    @derekwalsh1935 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you link the Panamara video? I can’t find it anywhere

  • @andrewt9204
    @andrewt9204 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wish it was something I could afford, pretty amazing car. I would want to be able to use the SC network though and I don't think most locations will be V4 for a long time. Unless non-telsa charging networks get just as good or better.

  • @MaestroWenarto
    @MaestroWenarto หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this car and I had 2 of them, I think I am going to get this version

    • @subiediaries6157
      @subiediaries6157 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      let me buy it after youre done with it, get the green CT

  • @craig8638
    @craig8638 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Any inkling as to when the electric Cayman will be available?

    • @Knnnkncht
      @Knnnkncht 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Its getting tested here in Germany since over a year, maybe 2025/26?

  • @masimilianzo
    @masimilianzo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any more details on how they got improved efficiency? It’s a big step up

  • @89bazoly
    @89bazoly 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beautiful car.

  • @TheArtofDisruption
    @TheArtofDisruption 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ll take the Cross Turismo as is! BEAUTIFUL!

  • @watchesandburgers
    @watchesandburgers 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks GREAT. I'd love to see a review of the new Apple CarPlay features/screens. Keep up the great content!

  • @berthogendoorn2133
    @berthogendoorn2133 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have forgotten, but is the battery pack have a higher voltage than the last generation, at 33% 790volts?

  • @Cloxxki
    @Cloxxki 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    A lighter battery despite the much greater capacity, that's a relief!
    Tesla has been upshowing them with how light the Plaid is. Now 4-5 kWh more in the Taycan, is very welcome.
    Suspension and chassis integration seem to help them a good bit.

  • @Molishious
    @Molishious 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I agree about the oak green. Epic!

    • @nafnaf0
      @nafnaf0 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Neo Oak Green is not nearly as exciting as it would have been if they had offered the genuine OG PTS Oak Green. The Neo Oak Green is a bit brighter and not as rich as the old school PTS Oak Green.

  • @rmce1234
    @rmce1234 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What colour is the of the saloon? I’m just ordering a Turbo S and love that colour.

  • @bahman_gi
    @bahman_gi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    excellent

  • @magnesium_subsoil_94
    @magnesium_subsoil_94 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ayoooo great to hear that you’re a fan of Autogefuhl

  • @benvanmil6761
    @benvanmil6761 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Personal preferences are just that, styling issues can't be criticized, performance is a whole other topic.
    On the styling topic, the green would never be my choice neither would the cybertruck but I did spend $350 on the VW ID4 lit rear badge 😊

  • @Cloxxki
    @Cloxxki 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very cool that the suspension runs on 800V. Tesla needed 48V just for the steering motors?

    • @Cloxxki
      @Cloxxki 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mdebart8678 Why is 12V a fail, if Tesla has 12V and 48V next to HV?
      Seems like the 400V vs 800V all over again. 400V cars can work fine with fast charging, unless batteries outgrow it.

  • @williamclark6466
    @williamclark6466 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So if you are picking the color I have to get my Cross Turismo in, then are you paying for it too? ❤ Thank you Kyle. You are the best!

  • @explorer2129
    @explorer2129 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey Kyle love the review a friend of mine his daughter just got the Taycan electric loves it..has anyone ever told you your a dopelganger for the actor in the Iron Eagle part one movie. Referring to the actor with the glasses and same hair color and same voice which is weird but funny. Love the review spot on.

  • @richardh3587
    @richardh3587 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Weirdly my id4 is able to stay in sport mode from start to start. Wonder why they can’t do it in the taycan?

  • @paouvous
    @paouvous 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am worried about battery longevity though. This battery went from 20 Celsius to 49 Celsius in four minutes. Are there limitations to how often one can fast charge like this?

  • @NicklasToft
    @NicklasToft 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hows the battery guarantee ? :P

  • @urbanstrencan
    @urbanstrencan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For me is Nato Green with bronze wheels on Tycan Crossturismo ❤❤😊😊

  • @TheAdventureAuto
    @TheAdventureAuto 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    48:36 is a NACS ad if I've ever seen one lol

    • @YTYTYTY7
      @YTYTYTY7 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That will literally break your back doing that for lifetime of Taycan. lol

    • @Knnnkncht
      @Knnnkncht 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Because superchargers cant Charge 800V cars?

  • @RudyOMP
    @RudyOMP 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I wish you showed the new CarPlay integration

  • @LeeC_808
    @LeeC_808 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hopefully they got the electronic gremlins sorted. Amazing car but sometimes I swear it absolutely sucked at the software side of things. Love the new wheels on a side note

  • @danimper2517
    @danimper2517 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing!!!

  • @jonpetter8921
    @jonpetter8921 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I actually like the new dashboard/infotainment layout of new Porsche. Like if we haven t enough screens every day.

  • @MF-et5nk
    @MF-et5nk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Don't forget about the outrageous base price even before pricey Porsche options are selected. I'll wait a few years when these become available at CarMax.

  • @Mobile_Dom
    @Mobile_Dom 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the 10% challenge in this is going to be interesting, unless the charger bugs out this is going to kill it

  • @Tstarke97
    @Tstarke97 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Laying the smack down on the Model S!

    • @therealbettyswollocks
      @therealbettyswollocks 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would still go for the Model S. And that’s from a 2x Porsche owner.

    • @nafnaf0
      @nafnaf0 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@therealbettyswollocks I can't get over the looks of the Model S though, I think it is ugly. This new Taycan looks pretty good. At least the Model S has decent depreciation though (~55% 5 year residual value), unlike the Taycan which is terrible (~38% 5 year residual vale)

    • @andr0373
      @andr0373 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean for 2-3x the price sure…also no data on longevity for the Porsches

  • @carlosquinones9198
    @carlosquinones9198 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you think any of the software updates that were added to the facelift Taycan will make its way to the older Taycan?

  • @fdashiell
    @fdashiell 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you please do a video on why so many non-Tesla DC Fast chargers are offline? It seems there are no moving parts. Why do Electrify America and EVgo have so many EVSE offline? What is the technical challenge?

  • @Teslaverse
    @Teslaverse 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    also there is a german car guy used to be on tv does youtube now and has its own tuning shop anyway he used to work for porsche is very higly connected to the top of porsche, drives concept cars that nobody has ever been in, not even people from porsche. im talking about JP performance, in one video of the last year one of the porsche officals said that electric vehicles are no where near to the peak of technology. they are working on a hugh battery with ~200kwh but lighter then current 80kwh which will charge in 10 min from 0 to full and has a range of several 1000 km... thats a statement, and made me think that my model y performance right now is basicaly just a toy. the future of e mobility will be mindblowing.

  • @Boomtendo4tw
    @Boomtendo4tw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How much can it tow. Wonder if this can tow some loads farther than a cybertruck

  • @barryw9473
    @barryw9473 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any way to get OPD on a Taycan?

  • @delenius1
    @delenius1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    On a Tesla v3 supercharger, would it only get 160kw (400v * 400 amps)?

    • @josefv8708
      @josefv8708 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, Tesla is outdated

  • @richie_bodo
    @richie_bodo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Best car ❤

  • @10secondsrule
    @10secondsrule 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wagon looks like an unbelievably good car and the one I’d go for have I had the money. Next life maybe.

  • @wydryfly
    @wydryfly 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    hmmm, should I trade in my Panamera ST for the new Taycan?

  • @souhaibtouati9330
    @souhaibtouati9330 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    J1 is the internal name of the Car, the plattform is called MLBevo

  • @swimshadey
    @swimshadey 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He definitely showed Kyle the new EV Boxster at the development center lol

  • @PrzyjemnePieniadze
    @PrzyjemnePieniadze 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Is the battery chemistry on this car standard or is it something new ???

    • @josefv8708
      @josefv8708 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do not know this, but it charges with about 3C, which is same like other 800v Systems, too...100kwh Battery and 300kw means 3C.
      Kia charges at 230kw and has a 77kwh Batterie...3C, too.
      Means this is nothing especially high, but the charging curve is the most interesting, which is kept very long, very high.

    • @RacingDuck
      @RacingDuck 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a new chemistry. It can charge from 15 °C with full power, where the old needed 35 °C .
      It's really quite amazing.

    • @Cyrribrae
      @Cyrribrae หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Recent body I saw said it was so nmc, but with a different formula. More nickel, less manganese and cobalt. I think.

    • @RacingDuck
      @RacingDuck หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Cyrribrae it was explained that they moved from NMC 622 to NMC 811. The numbers are ten percent of the makeup, so more nickel and less manganese and cobalt.

  • @sg222
    @sg222 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great car. I know more than 300 kW charging sounds great. But if we look at on C rating basis, it is quite similar to other 800V cars from Hyundai/Kia. Approx 3C. 😊.

    • @bullshitbingo2259
      @bullshitbingo2259 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, that is true. E-GMP by Hyundai/KIA has 3.0-3.1C (77.5kWh battery and 235-240kW charging power) and the
      Porsche Taycan has 3.1-3.2C (105kWh battery and 325-335kW max charging power)
      Which is why I would not stress about longevity. It has super fast charging speeds but it is also pretty save at the same time. The Taycan is such an awesome EV.

    • @GraysonCarr
      @GraysonCarr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Many EVs will do 3C charging, but how many of them hold 3C all the way up to 65%? Most only hold 3C for a minute or two.

    • @sg222
      @sg222 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GraysonCarr which are??? To be clear I am talking about good engineered cars. The E-GMP cars will like the new taycan do 10-80% in about 18 minutes. Even the the model y with byd blade batteries are pulling 3C for very long and will do 10-80 in approx 20 min.

  • @guyg2005
    @guyg2005 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What is the warranty on the battery?

    • @peteravolio2695
      @peteravolio2695 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      4yr/50K miles

    • @guyg2005
      @guyg2005 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not the car. The warranty on the battery. Tesla is 120K miles or 7 years. If you are going to charge @ 300kw that will take a toll on the battery.
      @@peteravolio2695

    • @sub7up.
      @sub7up. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      8 year / 120k miles in Europe

  • @Whatisthis195
    @Whatisthis195 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It’s awesome what Porsche is doing, but it sucks that the only “real” Tesla competition is coming from a manufacturer/car that isn’t attainable for the majority of people.

    • @jeffsteyn7174
      @jeffsteyn7174 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah. This tech will trickle down to audi (etron gt). Then vw and seat/Skoda.

    • @josefv8708
      @josefv8708 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jeffsteyn7174not directly...this is J1 used in Etron G, too. Even the electric Macan uses PPE which supports HUD for example...not available in J1.
      PPE will be used in Q6 and A6 Etron...in Future there is a common shared 800v Platform called SSP for entire VAG.

    • @abraxastulammo9940
      @abraxastulammo9940 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@josefv8708The Taycan with HUD is the one with more hefty dashboard behind the curved screen, it exists for years 😅

    • @Cyrribrae
      @Cyrribrae หลายเดือนก่อน

      You don't think Kia and Hyundai are real tesla competition? Think all these brands that are doing well in EV design are currently focusing on slightly different things, and that is a good thing IMO

    • @Whatisthis195
      @Whatisthis195 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Cyrribrae I guess I wasn’t really thinking about those. But I’m talking more about the charging curve, battery range, etc of the Porsche, it just feels so far ahead of anything else, even Tesla. Tesla has the network to back it up though.

  • @Cloxxki
    @Cloxxki 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This platform would be so lovely for a REAL stationwagon. Like a Jaguar XF, BMW i5 (bummer that one), E-Class (EQE seems decidedly meh, by intention), even Audi A6. The Audi RS6 if made BEV might as well be on the PA platform rather than rumoured PPE shared with Macan?

    • @Knnnkncht
      @Knnnkncht 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Well the A6 etron avant will be on the PPE Platform, Same as the Q6 and Macan

  • @Teslaverse
    @Teslaverse 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i saw many of these videos about this car, and they always go to the same porsche charger, does it also charge this fast on public infrastructure?

    • @sub7up.
      @sub7up. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes it does, my etron rs gt wich is rated at max speed 270kw.. i've seen 275kw at the Ionity 800v chargers.. 😂❤

  • @Joe-hw4xq
    @Joe-hw4xq 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Battery chemistry and who is the supplier?

  • @enriqueali
    @enriqueali 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I still prefer British Racing Green, which is a slighter darker shade

  • @ultrastoat3298
    @ultrastoat3298 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is out of spec going 4K now?

  • @peterburdett8131
    @peterburdett8131 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can’t believe you believe the front looks are similar.the old one was ugly, finally Porsche has fixed it

  • @jeffsteyn7174
    @jeffsteyn7174 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    If porsche says 2.3 i likely 2 or 2.1

    • @4literv6
      @4literv6 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good point! And if the dual motor can do 936hp for brief 10s overboost periods , what will the upcoming rumored tri motor that lapped the green hell at 7:07 do? Maybe 1150hp+ for 10s? Bet the tri motor gets labeled taycan turbo gt3rs and costs over 250k. 😀

    • @Knnnkncht
      @Knnnkncht 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      And Probably no 21 min preparation time for a Rolling start on prepped surface Like Model S plaid 😉

    • @abraxastulammo9940
      @abraxastulammo9940 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@4literv6Who rumors tri motors? The Mission R had two for 800 kW of combined power.

    • @4literv6
      @4literv6 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@abraxastulammo9940 every single one of the publications who desperately desire a tesla killer is who!
      The version with aero which did the 7:07 nurburgring time was supposedly a tri motor variant.
      Which makes sense because the taycan is heavier by 400-600# over a plaid&slower, so it would need more than 2 motors and 938hp briefly to do a lap time that quick. Its likely a tri motor of 1,200+hp, maybe even 1,300-1,500hp as the nevera 2s faster had 1,900+hp at 5,100# 🤔

  • @nielshunniche1
    @nielshunniche1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kyle. Does it really only have 4G for updates 🤕😳

  • @slepppper
    @slepppper 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you please add kilometres and kilometres/h as an asterisk when you talk about miles

  • @garyclark6747
    @garyclark6747 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I appreciate Porsche’s doubling down on power transfer efficiencies of 800V architecture. Hopefully the North America charging infrastructure will accommodate more robustly these 800V platforms and what they’ve proven to be a better way not that it had to be proven. We’ve always known reducing charging losses are exponentially improved at these higher voltages. It’s fantastic that Porsche is optimizing chemistry and cooling to maximize this potential. 💯#phenomenalchargingtech 1:00:21

  • @michaels1004
    @michaels1004 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just played a little with Porsche configurator. $247K !!!! For people who didn't get it - two (2) hundred forty seven thousand dollars! I said what I said. Thanks.

  • @thenerdyarab7622
    @thenerdyarab7622 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I wish I could afford one.

  • @zoner__
    @zoner__ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Big upgrade.

  • @777Outrigger
    @777Outrigger 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Charging curve, Wow! What have they figured about about the battery to keep it from degrading prematurely? I would guess maybe they haven't. But for someone like me, not a big deal. I don't do fast charging very often, and would use it sparingly, but very nice to have on a road trip. I'm not so sure about someone who fast charges all the time.

    • @andr0373
      @andr0373 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Agreed, anyone can charge a battery fast, how does that last though

    • @bullshitbingo2259
      @bullshitbingo2259 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Even tho the charging speed is mad crazy the C charge rate isn't. 105kWh total battery capacity and a 335kW max charging power is 3.2C. That is similar to the E-GMP platform of Hyundai/KIA. So the stress on the battery isn't mad crazy.
      Besides that Porsche has put a great amount of development into temperature management. The cooling and heating capabilities are massive in this car, it was developed with track days in mind.
      You get max charging power already at 15.5°C or 60°F battery temperature, which isn't very high im comparison to the competition which normally needs 25°C or 77°F and more.
      This gives you more thermal headroom for quick charging without overheating the battery. Porsche has the best temperature management and performance buffers.
      So Porsche figured out the two most crucial aspects to battery life, battery stress and battery temperature management.
      Of course the user still needs to follow good practices like not letting your EV sit at a super high or super low SoC but there will be no additional degradation of the batteries due to these high charging speeds. Porsche knows what they are doing.

    • @777Outrigger
      @777Outrigger 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bullshitbingo2259 It's not about the charging power, but the charging curve, which on the Porsche stays really high even as the battery fills. I clearly said I didn't know if they've discovered something while charging at high power deep into the battery, but that I doubted they had discovered something every one else hasn't. I never claimed to speak from any expertise on the Porsche battery or it's BMS.

    • @bullshitbingo2259
      @bullshitbingo2259 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​​​​​​​​​​​​@@777Outrigger No just looking at the charging curve alone is meaningless in terms of battery stress, at least if we are talking about 5-75% SoC range (the Taycan chooses 65% as the first threshold to slow down a bit and again at 80% to slow down further).
      Only above 75% a flat charging curve at high levels become a problem which is why charging speeds fall drastically from there on. The charging curve within the mentioned range of SoC is mostly just thermal stress related and I explained how Porsche improved on this.
      If you have a 200kWh battery (like the Hummer EV for instance) and you charge it with 400kW it is only a 2C charge rate. The 400kW could easily be hold steady until 75%. Not much stress on the battery here.
      400kW is much higher than the 330kW from the Taycan but it would not mean that the charging session would be quicker overall or that the stress on the battery is higher. 2C means it takes 30min to fill up the battery.
      Thermals (charging curve) and C charge rate are of course based on the technical specifications of the battery chemistry to begin with, but the 3.2C of the Taycan isn't anything crazy and the NMC chemistry used is also nothing special.
      Due to the good battery temperature management the charging curve of the Taycan can stay flat at a somewhat high charge rate of 3C. The combination of these factors is what counts.
      To put that into perspective:
      The E-GMP Plattform from Hyundai/KIA could achieve similar charging results to the Taycan if they would improve on thermals as they have to slow down way earlier than the 65% SoC of the Taycan due to overheating. Check out the video of Björn Nyland about the charging speed.
      10-80% is under 19min in E-GMP cars, not far off from the 16min of the Taycan.

    • @777Outrigger
      @777Outrigger 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bullshitbingo2259 Color me skeptical. I think it's an act of faith on your part that somehow Porsche is doing this in a way that won't lead to higher battery degradation. Everyone's talking faster charging speeds, and if it was this easy, everyone would be doing it.
      And I don't think it's all about heat. That maybe the biggest part of it, but overloading the battery cells is part of the equation too. And that becomes more likely at higher states of charge.
      And how many EVs have a 200 kWh battery pack? Not the norm for sure.

  • @rossmatheson4303
    @rossmatheson4303 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That bit at @8.40 is completely wrong, eh? The original Turbo S is 761 in launch control and 570 normally, so the new model's basic isn't more than the old models launch control overboost as stayed is it?

  • @bavariancarenthusiast2722
    @bavariancarenthusiast2722 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great job from Porsche - it's not a facelift it's a jump for a new model. Great