I never understood Mihrimah problem with Selim there was never an explanation for her favouring Bayezid over Selim NOTHING I would have understood if she fear Nurbanu influence and control over him but she openly shows how much she disliked him for no reason Amazing writing
30:12 THATS A TRUE MOTHER who loves and protects her children!!!! Bravo , true amazing valide sultan to her children. Mahidevil who???? She never cared for anyone.
Selim was truly saved by nurbanu from such mum who Instead of taking care and focus on them She is still after the throne Not only selim beyazid but mirimah selim too She tried to end him for beyazid if not for nurbanu
Hi I am SHOSSHOLOCCOO same MarissaKass, CamiyePolat, same StacyOliver, GünesÇelik, AyşeNur. Don’t listen tome and tomy accounts. I amcrying evreyday. I know Hurrem was best sultana, best mother and she loved Sulyman the most. I am her biggest fan!
We don't have have the same definition of class Mihrimah when you are talking about Hurician. They blame Nurbanu and sure she had faults but what they expecting her to do? Do nothing and risk to lose Selim and Murad because of the fratricid law? Mihrimah who dislike to get it of Mustafa is most radical now for Selim. Point of divergence with her mother. Bu twhatever said it is clear that Selim will win as he have a better brain than Bayezid ( who seems to not have). In the show Hurrem can have not a long intelligence term ( she is cunning and smart) but she never see that Bayezid and Selim were always arguing and now is too late. She never anticipated this despite her daughter's warnings. And now it is too late. Worst is that she send Nurbanu as a concubine while Hurrem recognize her intelligence... So it is not a surprise that Nurbanu became to have more plotting and smart movie for saving her son just like Hurrem ( as she surpassed the young Hurrem as she was not impulsive like her). But I always wonder what where thinking Suleiman and Hurrem historically by breaking the rule one son one concubine, because sure they have hard time ( especially Hurrem) as the fratricide law was not abolish and the one who will become Sultan must eliminate the others ( Murad III first don't want to execute this law but finally his coucelors told him he didn't have choice at is was see as a"duty") especially when you know they were smart? Selim and Nurbanu learn for that error and stop to have children when Murad was born. That's why I think that the Hurrem historicaly didn't have a good long-term intelligence and I think she is overrated at least where i'm from because many of people I met she's the smartest 'self made queen" ( queen Fredegonde was far more clever and win all her battles for example as finally she make her son Clothaire II the winner of the "Faide" a terrible war between Merovigians in postumous as she assure well her plans, Hurrem postumous could't save Bayezid ) unlike other sultana like Nurbanu, for example Rustem a vizier who will become a very precious ally to her was accidental to because at the start he married Mihrimah (which is understable she wanted the best for her daughter) it was Suleiman who want this wedding, with Suleiman they broke the law a concubine a son while the law of fratricide was always violent until the ascension of Ahmed I (and even after there were sehzades executed because paranoia and temptations were great ),etc... And I say that this regretting her demonization and thinking that she was smart and a very good diplomat. But like I said before it is only my view :)
The problem with one one child that they could die of disease or murdered. Then they would still be left out .Otherwise I’d course it would be great not to resort to fratricide.
@@brizagarcia7673 Yes I can clearly understand but we see the problems. I mean if they really want to make more they should stop to Selim ( as sehzade abdullah die in history). and even then it could already pose a big problem. Selim only reluctantly went to other ocncubine to produce other sons when he became Sultan as he only had Murad in case he died childless and did not return to Nurbanu to produce other sons so to avoid this kind of problem
Hurrem is such a good mother. Always protecting her sons. And then there is Mahidevran always dreaming on throne and using her son.
SAINT hurrem my god who. We worship
SINT hurrem my god who. We worship
SINT hurrem my god who. We worship
I never understood Mihrimah problem with Selim there was never an explanation for her favouring Bayezid over Selim NOTHING I would have understood if she fear Nurbanu influence and control over him but she openly shows how much she disliked him for no reason
Amazing writing
Yeah it's stupid, like she's not guilty in the series of intrigues and schemes as well.
@@Sky-tv4wb exactly
@Leo yes it was forced
SINT hurrem my god who. We worship
SINT hurrem my god who. We worship
Selim was right, completely stunned his hypocrite mother with those truth bombs.
30:12 THATS A TRUE MOTHER who loves and protects her children!!!! Bravo , true amazing valide sultan to her children.
Mahidevil who???? She never cared for anyone.
Selim was truly saved by nurbanu from such mum who Instead of taking care and focus on them
She is still after the throne
Not only selim beyazid but mirimah selim too She tried to end him for beyazid if not for nurbanu
Hi I am SHOSSHOLOCCOO same MarissaKass, CamiyePolat, same StacyOliver, GünesÇelik, AyşeNur. Don’t listen tome and tomy accounts. I amcrying evreyday.
I know Hurrem was best sultana, best mother and she loved Sulyman the most. I am her biggest fan!
Hurrem is best mother! Mahidevran was eviil and after throne! If Hurrem was Mustafa’s mother he would be saved!
@@shoshokikocockerspaniel67l8 what brought mahidevran now
She lives I yiur head rent free 😀😁😅🤣😅🤣
Hürrem didn't try to kill Selim. What on Earth?
22:29 exactly, Ibrahim agha who did the same as Ahmed we all know what happened in episode 82
Hurrem was best mother! Always loved her children equally! Mahidevran should learn from her! Worst mother!
SINT hurrem my god who. We worship
SINT hurrem my god who. We worship
SINT hurrem my god who. We worship
23:01 how dare Ahmed try to order the valide sultan? Oh wow , Ibrahim version 2 is here
Ahmed is nothing compared to Ibrahim 😂but Hürrem's line was pretty cold
@@hussainsultanzada6123 Ahmed talked to her as Ibrahim did
We don't have have the same definition of class Mihrimah when you are talking about Hurician.
They blame Nurbanu and sure she had faults but what they expecting her to do? Do nothing and risk to lose Selim and Murad because of the fratricid law?
Mihrimah who dislike to get it of Mustafa is most radical now for Selim. Point of divergence with her mother. Bu twhatever said it is clear that Selim will win as he have a better brain than Bayezid ( who seems to not have).
In the show Hurrem can have not a long intelligence term ( she is cunning and smart) but she never see that Bayezid and Selim were always arguing and now is too late. She never anticipated this despite her daughter's warnings. And now it is too late. Worst is that she send Nurbanu as a concubine while Hurrem recognize her intelligence... So it is not a surprise that Nurbanu became to have more plotting and smart movie for saving her son just like Hurrem ( as she surpassed the young Hurrem as she was not impulsive like her). But I always wonder what where thinking Suleiman and Hurrem historically by breaking the rule one son one concubine, because sure they have hard time ( especially Hurrem) as the fratricide law was not abolish and the one who will become Sultan must eliminate the others ( Murad III first don't want to execute this law but finally his coucelors told him he didn't have choice at is was see as a"duty") especially when you know they were smart? Selim and Nurbanu learn for that error and stop to have children when Murad was born.
That's why I think that the Hurrem historicaly didn't have a good long-term intelligence and I think she is overrated at least where i'm from because many of people I met she's the smartest 'self made queen"
( queen Fredegonde was far more clever and win all her battles for example as finally she make her son Clothaire II the winner of the "Faide" a terrible war between Merovigians in postumous as she assure well her plans, Hurrem postumous could't save Bayezid ) unlike other sultana like Nurbanu, for example Rustem a vizier who will become a very precious ally to her was accidental to because at the start he married Mihrimah (which is understable she wanted the best for her daughter) it was Suleiman who want this wedding, with Suleiman they broke the law a concubine a son while the law of fratricide was always violent until the ascension of Ahmed I (and even after there were sehzades executed because paranoia and temptations were great ),etc... And I say that this regretting her demonization and thinking that she was smart and a very good diplomat. But like I said before it is only my view :)
The problem with one one child that they could die of disease or murdered. Then they would still be left out .Otherwise I’d course it would be great not to resort to fratricide.
@@brizagarcia7673 Yes I can clearly understand but we see the problems. I mean if they really want to make more they should stop to Selim ( as sehzade abdullah die in history).
and even then it could already pose a big problem.
Selim only reluctantly went to other ocncubine to produce other sons when he became Sultan as he only had Murad in case he died childless and did not return to Nurbanu to produce other sons so to avoid this kind of problem
SINT hurrem my god who. We worship
SINT hurrem my god who. We worship
SINT hurrem my god who. We worship
23:30 you know fatma , because you forgot your place, who are you to talk like that and interven in matters that don't concern you?
22:16 under what audacity this pasha talks like that to a valide sultan?
Here we all see ibrahims version 2, Ahmed.
24:43 :))))