Touhou: The Early Years
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to anybody curious, the touhou series is divided into 2 different eras of games... the first 5 run on an old Japanese pc architecture that requires an emulator these days. these games rarely get talked about so I figured as a newcomer to the series it might be fun to actually start with the first few games as few Touhou players do!
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It’s official, grayfruit has played more touhou games than most touhou fans
the average touhou fan don't know its a game
we call them "secondaries" fyi
so true
@polinskitom2277 the games?
Thats me youre talking about
Seeing old, out of the way games like these being played is rather fun, it's like we're doing some archeology
You described it perfectly
More like modern anthropology
It’s like we’re going back to the past, to play some shitty games that suck ass perhaps
To be fair, while these games are a bit "out of the way", their association with the Touhou series pretty much guarantees nobody will forget them. The third, fourth and fifth games even have bit of a fanbase, considering.
@@FamilyTeamGaming Eeeeh, I mean, old games just don't get talked all that much after their time in the sun on release already passed.
Specially when the games are on languages not widely available to the western world and more obscure software that usually has less robust emulators like something like the NES.
When I played Evo Search for Eden for the pc98 I had to some manual fiddling to get the game to work and every time there's some little hurdles that say what you can do these days, of buying an old game in gog or steam or a virtual console you're losing bits of people who might be interested, but not interested enough to put the effort to fiddle with sometimes quite fiddly emulators.
While the pc98 games are more known because of their association with windows Touhou, I'd say it's fair to call them obscure because the barrier of entry for the average schmuck to get interested enough to play them is quite high compared to like, just finding a download of EoSD or buying the games on steam, as I'm sure there's a large contigent of Touhou fans themselves who aren't aware of these games aside from them existing if it wasn't because the series still counts them for the numbering and surface level info that is available on the various Touhou wikis.
I've never seen such a drastic variance in stakes in a game, where the bad ending might mean the end of the world, but the good ending might mean you smell good from now on.
I mean I would take the risk, world damnation versus saving $20/month on body care
that's pretty standard for the rest of the series
@@Mordecrox Nawww, I would rather choose World damnation over $20 per month, for body care
play Touhou
The early Two-Whomst'ves really radiate that "experimental indie game" energy. Hell, even the basic breakout clone has a pretty unique identity to it.
Here's a fun fact. Zun is a great artist when it comes to physical art. He just doesn't know how to make digital art very well, even now.
Also, the characters' ages are nebulous due to his art style. Though it's generally agreed that Reimu is an adult, because she drinks alcohol and Zun doesn't like underaged drinking.
Ages are very much a non-factor in Touhou because it is whatever Zun wants it to be. Sumireko still does not drink, even tho she should be an adult by now.(Unless it is a stated thing that Doppelgängers don't age)
@@lpfan4491 Drinking age is 20 in Japan, so even adults can't drink for a little while and Sumireko ain't THAT old. She's like 18 max.
@@mousysaint9143 She was like 15 when she entered the series and more than 5 years passed since then.
the l0li-looking characters are kinda umcomfortable, but other than that, i like playing Touhou
@@lpfan4491 wow
i was absolutely NOT expecting greyfruit to play ANY of the touhou games, let alone decide to do them in order
Dude same.
It's GrAYFRUIT. Of course he'd do it in order.
ikr, last thing id expect is him starting with touhou 1
@@testhekid ikr? The majority of people believe that Touhou 6 is the first one
@@ironmaster6496 me included, lol
I'm sad that the Yuuka attempt was cut off the earliest, I feel like the reaction to her line of "Genocide is just a game" would've been... interesting
same that's my favorite line in the series
he completely missed it in the original stream
i was searching the comments to find someone talking about how unhinged yuuka was in the pc98 games and lo and behold i found someone with a matasoup yuuka pfp
heyo matasoup yuuka is hot as fu- i mean uh is based af
@@steepslopesmm2Mine is "Dog meat"
The reason for the common perception of powercreep amongst Touhou characters is that within canon, we actually don't know for *sure* how strong anyone particularly is. Most characters are youkai, and want to come across as strong, so their powers are **self defined**. For example, the character Remilia Scarlet is a high class egotist vampire and claims she has the power to "manipulate fate". We have literally never seen this happen in any way, and she also lied about being a descendant of Dracula, implying she's inclined to lie.
All fights in touhou are essentially playfighting (maybe more akin to fencing?) where characters fight with spell cards, where every bullet is just like, an airsoft bullet. It's very rare we see anyone trying to actually KILL or anything.
but she might be telling the truth as her sister does actually have a really powerful ability. So both Scarlet sisters having busted powers would make sense.
The probable reason why Remilia never uses her ability is it would most likely be considered "cheating" in a danmaku battle
i hear you, but consider: it's funnier if she just straight up lies about it
@@FlippinEgg damn brat, tricking an adult
lying about your power, mesugaki vampire correction
💢💢💢😭😭
@@lyrebird5982 disgusting...
Meanwhile Flandre who definitly has the power to kill and just won't because she lives the basement neet-life:
32:49 "bitch you in the most honk shoo pajamas I've ever seen" is one of the funniest things I've heard in so long.
the funniest part of the toby fox touhou thing is that he says "indie games" with a japanese accent literally seconds before saying prawject
Toby breaks accent.
I mean, he’s trying his best.
@@SlyHikari03 I'm sure that takes more effort than just staying in the accent.
@@sansprobus7209 yeah…
I mean..
You never know with Toby..
induru games
Yep the prawwjekk
If Touhou was so good why isn't there Threehou
Hello fellow Dunkey fan
@@skeetsmcgrew3282 Dunkey?
@@skeetsmcgrew3282 Dunkey!?
Drama Monday ?!
Threehee
33:07 i really admire grayfruit's ability to finish his sentence with a perfectly consistent tone before reacting to some insane shit
The Jerma joke was too real. Both him and Joel don't like shitting on bad games, it's real funny.
I feel like Dan from Gamegrumps is another example
I mean it depends on the game with Joel.
Fun fact: in Phantasmagoria of Dim. Dream, the final boss, Yumemi, on lunatic difficulty, is programmed to never get hit until you die at least once. She is regarded as one of the hardest Lunatic bosses to this day.
neat
What about PoDD Lunatic NO MISS NO BOMB 1CC videos?
@@thedropperofdroppedItems you are still allowed to die
I’d like to acknowledge that a portion of twitch chat was absolutely livid that grayfruit was playing the touhou games. It was very funny.
livid, why
@@commenteroftruth9790because touhou sucks
@@BorfieKai u smel
@@BorfieKaiL + Worship Hakurei
TOUHOU?!
The notificación appeared and I literally got jumpscared
I can't belive Grayfruit is playing Touhou, im so happy
Edit: Funny Video, loved it, I hope Grayfruit continues,my fav games are probably not coming soon but I sure hope my boy enjoys the next games enought to make more 2hu content
dont worry, he played the bad ones.
@@gremlinman9724 💀
I have never seen someone type 2hu and that's amazing.
The two-hoo thing is ironic, right? Like, I cant tell whether or not people know it isn't pronounced that way
i like how he noticed "totle" but not "HARRY UP" flashing on screen 18 times
5:05 You'll notice that this song ("Now Until the Moment You Die") from a game made in the mid-90s starts with the same lick as Dragonforce's "Through the Fire and Flames" released a decade later.
Holy shit.
I’m not the only one that noticed that.
Even their names have similar energy to them
It's def not the same, but the first few notes are similar
Oh, I know it as "Time Will Tell"
@@Just.Kiddingyeah that's what they said
Grayfruit being bad at the game
The Game:
You Need to Kill Yourself **NOW**
Man, I wish more people covered the PC-98 era Touhou games. Most of the community sorta forgets about them until someone brings up Mima's existence.
well i mean, they are arguably non-canon even tho thats still debatable, and they are pretty easy compared to the later games more intense bullet patterns
@@Sleepy_Kitsune You say that its pretty easy but I legit wanted to rip out my fucking skin on Touhou 2's extra stage
@@Discopope i meant as compared to later games, bullet hells are always a challenge in general
It's also because out of the 5 games,
One of them is HRtP, which isn't even bullet hell, so most people ignore it on principle,
The next is, SoEW, which close to nobody likes,
Then PoDD, which.... Has a very small but dedicated fanbase but I'm really not entirely convinced many care outside of it care about it that much,
And then finally you get LLS and MS which are alright games, but still not many would play it because of the accessibility of even playing them to begin with, on top of the fact people might not necessarily care for how the design of the series still needed many layers of polish even that late on.
The saddest thing is that it has arguably the best villains of the series: Yumemi, Shinki and obviously Mima.
And i mean actual villains not misguided or literal antagonist (they're still great characters nonetheless, just not evil)
" *Project.* "
- Toby Fox
Actually, he said it correctly; Touhou Project's official name doesn't use the japanese word for project (whichever it is), it actually uses "project" even in its original language. Moreover, this is weirdly common in Japan; Smash Bros in japanese still uses english terms too, such as "Game Set!" instead of simply "Game!" in english.
Having heard so much about them, I just realized I have literally never seen a single clip of actual Touhou gameplay.
The bullets are eye candy for viewers, a hellish labyrinth for players. Both perspectives are enjoyable!
Either the YT algorithm or you're actually not that interested to search the gameplay
I guess I should formally welcome you to touhou! I hope you enjoy your stay☺
ps: don't forget to bomb
@@ScarlettTheFemboyLover Or charge/trance/glitch-exploit, if available
For anyone confused about the story, all touhou bullet hell fights are a special type of non-lethal duel between yokai to settle disputes.
. . .in hind sight, this seems to why, in Undertale, the monsters release magic bullets as communication, and can't hurt one another with them.
well, that lore is only established in the Window era. In the PC-98 one however, it's the fucking free-for-all hellscape no-rule-allowed kind of bullshit there.
fix the typo before its too late.
>nonlethal
Definitely not in the PC98 games buddy, they shoot to kill in those games
as @residentfacehead3465 says, the typo needs to be fixed @strikermodel since that is a not nice parody name of Undertale. I can't say more ok? Just know that typo is unfortunate.
It's too late... 💀
Can’t wait for thouhou the prequel to fouhou
Don't forget houhou and souhou!
Oh boy, Gexuma and Touhou, along with Grayfruit? A delicious mix for certain
Pretty convenient timing; the demo for Touhou 19 released a few days ago, and it actually brings back the 2-player gameplay style from Touhou 3 (and 9) into a more modern game.
As someone with no attachment to this series, besides being a fan of early YPTMVs and hearing a ton of U.N. Owen covers, I'm excited to go on this ride and see what the buzz is about.
This… was a crossover I didn’t expect.
He’s mentioned the series offhandedly on occasion in VODs, so I did figure he’d get to the Touhou games eventually; but somehow seeing him play them still feels strange… excited to see what he thinks of the windows-era games, though, and if he’ll try any of the spin-offs/fighting games and such. Probably not, but you never know.
2:25 I _think_ it's a super compressed and zoomed-in section of either the Mandelbrot set or a cross-section of the Julia set (some kind of fractal pattern, there are many online explorers if you want to find the exact location). Not biological or anatomical, but similar structures do arise in nature.
That's the gate to Makai, the demon world
I say this with complete sincerity, I love Touhou 1's visuals. The whole game is so enthralling but those visuals are what I live for.
It's so cool that they made a whole game series based off of that one music video
And that it, itself, has good music
I hope the "smell good" ending becomes a running joke in grayfruit
Saw the Beetlejuice musical last night, HIGHLY recommend.
I know nothing about Touhou but yeah it was pretty cool I have a Sandworm friend now :)
Idk what that has to to do with anything but I'm so proud of you Flaherty
@@moxy1296 It doesn't because I know nothing pertinent to the video's topic
Also thanks I will water them every day :D
I thought the first games were like lost to time and unplayable at this point, holy shit
I love that Zun was already a good composer
Nah, they're still up there if you know where to look. Some people even went the effort to get the actual PC-98 series computer.
They argubly should have been, really. Touhou 1 and 2 in particular barely sold and they are the least popular of these games. Under the same circumstances, many other games would have become lost media, they got lucky.
8:48 so we’re just gonna ignore the game told us to “Harry Up”
Good old engrish.
Finally a Touhou streamer who doesn't bombard me with useless information about how a character's decapitated head is allegedly a huge meme in japan
Yukkuris?
Hey man, take it easy!
Its not decapitated, its just a head, the same way a smiley face isn't a decapitated head
I like that gray now puts visual aids of references he makes. Very good, very helpful, less esoteric
Glad to hear that about Gexuma she* makes excellent edits !
Does that mean there won't be fan edit of grayfruit on the other channel ?
I still plan to continue making fan edits! I've made a couple since the King's Field video, the main reason there hasn't been more is just because I have a lot to do at the moment and less time to do them in.
Gexuma, I don't know if you'll see this, but this is some seriously solid editing
I was not expecting grayfruit Touhou, but i'm not complaining. It's also nice to see PC98 again, it's been a while since I've played these games...they're quite charming for their place in the series.
I promised myself to never interact with Touhou content ever so I could make a game called "Touhou but I've Never Played Touhou" and this video released while it was in development and I am so finally glad that after finishing the game I get to watch yet another Grayfruit masterpiece.
Cap or real?
@@lpfan4491 second thing on Itch if you search for "Touhou", somehow.
Wowza
I know Grayfruit said that he won't play ALL of the Touhou games because that would be completely unreasonable, but I hope that he gets Lark to play the Touhou fighting games at some point, like their street fighter streams.
ZUN: don't upload the endings to the internet.
The fandom: Why?
ZUN: _Uh…_ Because they should be earnt by beating the games by yourselves…???
The endings: *Somehow, Reimu being crucified by Marisa*
Zun:"Fans should translate the games, I know I couldn't."
Also Zun:"Fans are not allowed to upload the endings online, even in textform."(Which is required for fantranslations)
Fans:*Hurt in confusion*
@@lpfan4491 To be fair, uploading a translation patch isn't quite the same as uploading the endings online, since you still have to beat the game to watch them.
Holy Grayfruit Gexuma crossover! Love their fan edits, glad to see them become a main channel editor!
Lmao, in the first game it actually says 'HARRY UP' instead of 'HURRY UP'
40:08 For how long has the Touhou fandom existed and with how many English-speaking people are in said fandom, it's surprising that I've only seen like two or three "fanarts" (Deviantart edits) that actually use that joke.
it is impressive how u maintain commentary while playing these games
Was waiting for the first edit, thank you for this Gexuma
Greetings fellow gungeon fan
it blows my mind that folks hated the first games visual. i think they have an incredible charm; esoteric and ominous behind a veneer of cuteness.
I'm inclined to half agree. HRtP has a very "nightmare-core" aesthetic that's completely unique to it. It wasn't even carried over into the sequel. If you treat the background art of the game kind of like trippy paintings then they're absolutely fascinating like that.
It's just that admittedly they're a bit of an eyesore as you're actually playing the game, which is especially compounded by HRtP just overall playing weird in general.
To this day I still appreciate HRtP for how eerie it is. It especially fits as the first Touhou game, where Spell Card rules aren't established, and Reimu's still very young and inexperienced but has to go to Makai/Hell regardless. Not to mention, a lot less powerful ability wise, not being able to fly and with a main weapon that can backfire easily.
Tbh, I wish the other games were more like it.(Except storywise because TH1 barely having one really annoys me. Fighting angels, evil eyes, ghosts, demons and gods really requires more elaboration than "they exist. Some of them are taken from mythology, some of them aren't." Like, what? xD)
Im genuinely so happy Gexuma has became an editor of your channel, I've been watching their videos for eons now
so glad grayfruit is playing TEE HEE that's awesome
MICHAEL IS
COMING
Gexuma moving on up in the world!
Very excited to see more!
I'm gonna be that weirdo SHUMP fan and recommend some supplemental material:
For those interested in the music, I'd strongly recommend Akatsuki Records. Really killer vocal track arrangements of several character themes. Gave me whiplash hearing Sariel's theme in it's PC 98 rendition and being able to recognize it.
If the idea of the weird VS SHUMP gameplay of Touhou 3 interested you, I really recommend Twinkle Star Sprites. It's on Steam and Switch and is a blast in local VS.
31:07 ah yes, I too remember the tiktok dance that was literally *just* standing on a boat!
Actually, this is sarcasm, but that would be kinda funny, “the newest trend in fashion is the sit down and shut up.”
Your PC-98 emulator's set up a little wrong.
- You haven't installed the PC-98's OPNA/Yamaha 2608 sound samples, which means the epic drum backing on all of the music is missing. These go in the same place as your FONT.ROM does
- You're not running the game window at a multiple of 640x400, which is what causes the crushed-looking graphics in places, and the out of place block of texture/white cursor around the bottom-left corner of the screen
My favorite bit of Touhou is a friend telling me:
"This character never had an official look / design and the best view you get of her is zooming into WAY into the background during her one appearance.
She's the 2nd most popular character in the franchise."
Is it Koakuma?
@@fhornmichaelmac Gonna say yes
@@buff00n3ry you're probably thinking of Momiji. Yeah she's crazy popular for a character with 0 relevance and barely an official look, but she's not "second most popular", that's a bit hyperbolic.
Also fun fact, Reimu doesn't really know what god her shrine holds. It's possible that Reimu IS that god.
The "Live Reimu Reaction" killed me on the spot. That was funnier than it had any right to be.
Good to see grayfruit dipping his toes into the early days of the toohoos! Touhou 3 has one of the best final boss themes in the entire franchise, don't @ me.
Dimension of Reverie from 4 is highkey a top tier Touhou song as well
Okay, the game’s manageable and actually fun on easy mode (Touhou 3), but once you reach normal mode and up, it’s just a bunch of near-unavoidable NONSENSE. Hitboxes aren’t clear, and the AI only seems to take damage when I take damage. I can be at full health, dodging the bosses attacks, but the AI never seems to die even when it’s at half a heart, and that’s the worst part of them all. It’s such a huge tryhard. Whenever you dodge a bullet, there seems to be another one waiting for you, and not being able to hold the key to shoot is annoying too. I keep dying on the Semifinal and final stage, even though I beat it first try on easy (Reimu). I’m playing as Marisa, btw
At least with Touhou 6, the patterns are hard, but they make sense and you can beat them with practice, which is why I like the game. It’s a good challenge and the game never made me want to punch my screen once, even on normal mode
But with Touhou 1, 2, and 3, it seems to just be BS after BS and at that point it’s just absolutely rage-including. Touhou 1 is addicting, but controlling the ball will drive you insane. Touhou 2 is just boring, clunky and a bunch of nonsense near the end especially at the final boss, whos attacks will make you wonder what in the world is going on. I had a great normal mode run (no deaths and only used 2 bombs) but I got frustrated at level 2 because I couldn’t tell what were bullets and what weren’t, and even if I did, I would already be dead because the movement is so dang clunky. Touhou 3 is on par with 1, but it still has a lot of BS. They haven’t aged well at all as PC-98 titles. They fail at being a good challenge and it seems that the difficulty is from unfair, poorly made mechanics
Luckily, I have self control and rationality, unlike people in those TH-cam rage compilations, so I’m not going to be breaking my literal device over some old bullet hell video game, lol. At least the soundtracks are good and the character designs are cool too especially Marisa’s. I tried it again and managed to beat it on normal mode with all of my continues (Marisa). I didn’t lose any of my lives on the last continue. I tried it again and managed to beat it with Mima on normal mode using 1 continue and on my last life (I didn’t 1CC it, I just died 5 times in total. 1CC is using 0 continues). That doesn’t mean that I really like the game, though. I just wanted to have something to back my words up. I was naive to think that I could 1CC Touhou 3 on normal mode. I probably won’t try Touhou 1 and 2 on normal mode, though. (Okay, I DID try it but I got bored/frustrated and quit after a while. xD)
TOUHOU 4, THOUGH. Now that’s a DIFFERENT STORY. I tried it and woah. FINALLY, a GOOD PC-98 Touhou game that has held up well! 1, 2, 3 has caused me so much pain, I honestly had low hopes for LLS but once I played it, I was shocked at the quality increase compared to its predecessors. Graphics are better and don’t hurt your eyes, music is still solid, controls are solid, art is better, gameplay is way, way better, and most importantly the patterns are fair and not just a bunch of near-unavoidable BS on your screen while still being a good challenge! They may seem daunting at first, but like EoSD, once you practice them it becomes easier and a fun experience. One nitpick I have is that sometimes I can’t see the enemy projectiles clearly but that’s just a nitpick.
Anyway, it’s not bad and i liked it! I hope Touhou 5 is good too! :)
Am I going insane or did it say "HARRY UP" in touhou 1
awesome fun fact: mimi-chan (who is also the best touhou character) originates from a manga called "don't leave me alone daisy". it is terrible and it somehow got an anime adaptation. please do not read or watch it !
grayfruit isn't going to rest until he's gone through every series in chronological order
although i have to say, i think this might take a bit longer than metal slug or street fighter
20:20 i blame mugen in general, this isn't a fault of touhou itself but mugen being a rat race of who can make the most busted character. And then theres the meme characters and actual fighting game characters which are based. Touhou in general is goofy and whimsical, not edgy. The closest thing to edginess is maybe the komeiji sister's backstory (which is overplayed as hell) and maybe Yuyuko's? Yuyuko's backstory is a little sad but not really edgy.
Bad ending where Marisa burns Reimu alive? PC98 Yuuka? These are like actual edgy things in this series that come out of pocket.
At least Mugen gives Touhou fans Reimu's mom, often called Sendai Hakurei which then appeared in Osana Reimu
Nice Video. I hope you don't plan on putting the entire Windows Era into just a single video as well, It would be a handful.
22:58
I don't know about TH3, but the later vs. danmaku games in the Windows era have it so that the CPU characters just die on a timer, with very little care for what happens in between that timer ending. Sometimes, you can even see the CPU going through bullets, because they're only set to die after hitting that timer.
3 is like that too. It's worth noting that certain characters have attacks that confuse the AI and can score "unplanned" hits, though, which can end fights prematurely.
In this game, those are Reimu's yin-yang orbs, Rikako's gears and Yumemi's crosses.
touhou is one of those series you see the internet talk about all the time yet you could never comprehend what it even is about
Congrats on your first ever 1CC! ❤ Interestingly enough, you're the second person I'm aware of whose first 1CC was in the third game.
While I wish I had been there to advise you, as I know a lot about these games, I'm glad you decided to start with the PC-98 Era, they need more spotlight. ❤
Seeing the Funny Peggle streamer play the very game series I've been obsessed with since I was literally a child is awesome. These games are so fun even if I suck at them.
I remember I loved the first game when I started getting into it at that age, as I thought it was so edgy and cool how 'mysterious' it was. Nowadays I just laugh at it because of the hilarious typos(i.e. "TOTLE" and "HARRY UP")
The first Touhou actually aged really well I gotta say. It's style is very distinct and the pixel art looks good. Not to mention the bullet patterns look really cool. I especially like the one that looks like raindroplets.
there's no way we just watched the same video
while i agree on the whole style thing and it aging well (enough), that is still a game i would absolutely not touch with a 10ft pole. out of respect.
@@18themxxn_ It has aged about as well as a NES game, which can be either a compliment or a roast depending on which NES game we compare it to. All things considered, I too would say it has aged well; not exceptionally so, but it's still perfectly enjoyable nowdays.
It's amazing how much jump in quality there is to touhou 6.
Also amazing to see ZUN's art style completely change as the century turns. Touhou 5's is all dark, sharp, vibrant, and 90's anime style; Touhou 6's is soft with whites and pastels, almost looking like watercolor to an extent.
It's impressive how the third (1v1) game has the kind of humor you'd see in 2014. My girl got an Intercontinental Balistic Missile as a pet/broom, that's quality Gen X/Z humor
This is probably the video that's gonna convince most my t gal friends to start watching you
real
jerma and grayfruit will finally have a 100% audience overlap
I should also remind the one to send grayfruit the touhou zip file cuz that'd be useful
Yeahh...ZUN didn't really start on the worldbuilding or the concept of "Gensokyo" until the 7th game and it didn't solidify like until 9th or 10th game.
Before that it really was just some generic eastern magic land where silly stuff happens.
eyyy Gexuma got hired
Nekoproject 21/w or dosbox-x is way better for pc-98 emulation
but for proper percussion you have to find the OPNA samples the sound chip uses and put it in the folder of the emulation
glitches like the typing box in 1 and W not showing correctly will be fixed
6:17 Also Asriel shares the name of Azrael from the bible, which is an angel of death, along with Sariel.
I really enjoy the first game, let alone the rest of the original five.
They’re all so weird and jank, but you can see them clearly improve with each entry.
But they all consistently have great soundtracks, despite the primitive hardware.
I like how the two things majorly holding TH 1 back are that the collission detection sucks and certain bullet patterns are so big that they don't even spawn correctly. Fix the jank and the game looks 100 times better because the actual gamedesign somehow manages to hold up, sometimes actually better than Touhou games afterwards ironically.
Of course, it will take a long time until that actually happens because the gameplay-commnity be like "My replay-compatibility! Can't lose that 💀"
@@lpfan4491
I wish ZUN would try the Touhou 1 design again, even for a .5 spinoff entry in the series.
Maybe in Touhou 20.5. And he’ll do a really sick arrangement of Eternal Shrine Maiden just to hit it home.
…
Ha.
Right.
😢
Always love seeing Grayfruit indulge in his love of all things shmup/danmaku.
I have original copy of all PC-98 touhou! ( Which needs great skills of dealin' to get 'em )
At 5:08 that theme sounds dangerously similar to "Through The Fire And The Flames"
I love me some Touhou "PROJECT"
every time i watch this i forget reimu canonically offers gay marriage to one of the bosses, and then promptly murders her completely and fully to the point she has to be stopped from digging her a grave to put her in
"canonically"
Remember, PC98 games are not canon
yes yes, i know mima is not returning
Became "canon" because of mistranslation and sadly you believe that
the only character reimu felt gay for was homophobic 💔
I always forget how different and experimental the early touhou games are, and then 6 onwards zun solidified his style and it's more or less always been the series we know and love from there. Hope you keep playing and I'm glad you had fun with the early entires of the series ^^
The second game really just said "oops she died. oh well, time to bury her."
you are about to expose me to a fandom i've known but ignored for YEARS, grayfruit
17:13 come back when you're a little, mmmm, stronger
at long last! The grayfruit touhou video.
So far, 1 is a decent game and kind of addicting. However, what holds it down is the annoying mechanics like the ball and also the controls aren't really great like the later games. the music was pretty good in the youtube uploads but when i booted the actual game up, it was kind of ear piercing, but i kept it on for the first attempt. for the second attempt, i just turned it off altogether and just put a mega man music compilation over it (LOL). so once you combine all of this, attempting to control the ball was just driving me crazy and in addition to other stuff, i just gave up at boss 3 (hell route) and boss 2 (makai route). character designs are good, though
2 was just extremely mid. the controls are clunky and there was a lot of BS in the game. So much so that i just bomb spammed the final boss and was begging for her to just die already. Somehow i beat easy mode first try after using all 3 of my continues. the graphics are decent but kinda eye cancer at times. The character designs were good and the story was compelling, though. You'd expect a sequel with a cool name like "Story of the Eastern Wonderland" to be absolutely epic, but it was okay at best, tbh.
So yeah, that's my opinion on 6, 1, and 2, so far, lol
If it ever happens, I would love to see grayfruit’s reactions to the Touhou 6 art.
i like that if you do bad in touhou 2 the game tells you to kill yourself
Marisa:"In eastern wonderland, the witch burns you."
my primary exposure to touhou 1 is that someone made a mod for sonic robo blast 2 (famous sonic fangame / technically a doom mod) in which there was a level where the gameplay was just. touhou 1. like down to the visual
33:15 "Cool fuckin' Move" - Marisa Kirisame
I've been a Touhou fan for a long time now but I've never actually seen the good endings for any of the PC98 games and, comedic elements aside, woo boy am I glad I didn't try. I do like the official Touhou novels that Zun has written so I think he is a competent writer but... Well... We all have to start somewhere I guess.
There is actually a crossover berween Touho soundrack and undertale soundtrack called "U. N. Owen was a true hero".
I have NEVER clicked on a grayfruit video faster, and I'm an isaac chump. Great video, and here's hoping more touhou slips into the scraps!
Holy shit Grayfruit and Touhou, literal match made in heaven
The dialogue with Meira and Reimu is actually a bit mistranslated and is far easier to "misunderstand" from Reimu's perspective in Japanese.
For example, Meira is not "here for the Hakurei", she basically stated that she wants to take Hakurei. No "the".
So, Reimu thinks Meira is there to take Reimu, and so a-okay with it.
Almost every line of dialogue between the two is either mistranslated, or has stuff added that wasn't there, like Reimu calling Meira "stupid". No such thing happens in the Japanese version. She just asks her if she is okay about that if Reimu wins, she will basically date Meira.
Also, One thing lost in translation is that Meira is putting up a front with the way she speaks, and gets so embarassed by Reimu gaying all over the place, she drops the act and cutely states: "Uuu, I don't want to lose~"
I find it INTERESTING whenever Tohou appears in English/Non-Japanese media.🤣
wasn't expecting touhou, might actually learn what touhou is about
Touhou 2 was the precursor, 4 and 5 ended up being the base form of the rest of the series. Games in the 3 format have popped up a couple times though. 9 and 19. (19 isn't out yet, but the trial version released recently, this past weekend)
I don't think the PC-98 games or #6 have held up particularly well, personally. There are people who like 6 and I'm not one. xD
Speaking of 6, if you want U.N. Owen in context, you'll have to 1cc Normal and unlock the Extra Stage, then get to its boss. But that's for NEXT TIME™.
I'm a career Easy Mode player because I am not amazing at video games. Through perseverance I've managed to 1cc most of the main series, except 1 and 2. Interesting seeing someone play the games for the first time. I started with 7. Imo a good game. Not beginner friendly though since a lot of the game is a lot more puzzle-pattern-y. My personal favorites are 9, 10, and 11. 9 for being casual dumb fun, 10 and 11 for being imo the best overall gameplay experiences.