Sad to hear of Mick Ives - he had a big impact on my cycling life. His bike shop in Coventry was at the end of the road I grew up on. He was endlessly patient with the kid that would gawp at the bikes I couldn't afford, as well as selling me my first "Race Bike" (10 speed) when I got a summer job at 16, and then rebuilding it when I crashed it too!
You guys are clearly reacting quickly to the change that the GCN+ loss created suddenly. Praise for keeping that alert enjoyment and positivity. I'll keep supporting you, as you adjust, with whatever platforms you go with. Thank you for several years (in my case) of really great inspiration.
362w for an hour and definitely under 60kg at peak race weight that makes Porte on of the fittest humans to ever walk the planet. It is one of the best feelings in life being your fittest and just punching up the climbs like you are on a moto. Being full of red blood cells, water and sugar with your lungs just sucking in oxygen to your working muscles. Rim brake bike with tubulars. Setting PR's. Best feeling! I tried the low carb thing just because of the hype and I felt like I was riding a BMX with 2 flat tires. You just feel like trash. No wonder the low carb crew are so crazy about smashing in all the stims etc even on recovery days.
@ durianriders How long did you try it for? Adaption takes weeks, if not months. You also need to be feeding your body proper protein and saturated fats, so your study of 'one' is probably not optimal!
what is your last ftp test and prove it with a strava link.@@phil_d what is 'proper protein' lol. Who decides if it is 'proper'? The marketing department or some fake natty influencer in the gym pushing the lastest product to noobs? hehe. Come on man. ZERO people are riding faster in ketosis!! There is no such thing as 'fat adaption' where you can magically ride hard with no bonk because your 'body just burns fat like a magic man!' xD
A friend of mine actually found a stolen bike on our local 2nd hand website in Poland. The bike had a name sticker on it. He googled the name and found the bike on some British site where people can post their stolen bikes. He got in touch with both the seller and the owner and with some gentle threats (😉), eventually the owner got his bike back! He even sent my friend a 100£ check (that was super hard to withdraw since we never really used checks in Poland)
@@gcn it truly is! Also I guess I don't have to mention that the guy who was selling the bike, wasn't too smart and didn't remove the sticker and posted very detailed photos of some customizations on the bike 😉 That was so much helpful of him 😉
Yes I ride fasted virtually every time, have been for 3+ years. I even ride 100 miles fasted. It doesn't always work, so I carry food with me, but 3 out of 4 times I just don't eat, my body actuallly performs better riding fasted vs fed. My eating window is usually 4 hours per day, so have become quite efficient at fat burning.
I have the same experience. Ive been eating one meal a day in the evening(zero snacking) and easily do 100mile+ rides wo any bonking or noticeable decrease in energy. Bonking is a sign of sugar/carb addiction and poor metabolic flexibility.
@@MrKadillak I've finally found some people like me! I ride 4 to 5 hours fasted and only drink water if the temp is over 30 degrees. I think that if I ate 120 grams of carbs an hour I would gain weight in a massive way.
The milk bottle is what we photographers would call a diffuser. Basically it takes a point light source and spreads it out. If you are taking a flash photo, it makes the light softer and less harsh. It does this by creating a larger but less bright light source.
I’m 17 years old and I did a 235Mi ride in 17 hours strictly off of fat burning, the first half of the day I ran off bacon for breakfast and second half of the day I ran off some fatty protein bars. For a ride that long it really helped to not have to worry about constantly fueling I could rely off the fat stores in my body to bring me through the day. I did lose 7lbs though! I will say fat burning definitely has its place in the cycling community. It just depends on what your goals are.
Please do a video truly comparing your Fan and Pro kits. Not just the stats, but how they feel and support you when it comes to (4+hr) rides. Get the whole team involved; especially Manon, for the ladies fit.
Cheer up Dan. I did 400 days in a row when I turned 70 ( minimum 15 mi. A day). Unfortunately had to stop because of injury, but still managed 7300 miles that year.
I am currently doing low carb diet to drop weight. I am down 23lbs so far in 4 months. I am doing daily rides at 145W for 1 hr and slowly taking the watts up by 10 each month. I am also doing core exercises and lifting. There are times I can get some nasty food cravings and I expected this. It takes a lot of will power to do low carb. My BP and HR are greatly improved and that is a side benefit I was hoping for doing this. My resting HR is typically in the low 50's to upper 40's. I am 55, 6'4", 225lbs currently and hoping to get under 210 by April 1st. On my weekends I do 2 rides and the first one is fasted. That one goes fine as long as I don't deviate from the power output. If you go over it a lot and really try to push the cravings go through the roof. I had blood work done about 3 weeks ago now and it all came back excellent.
I think people have to realise, we're all built differently. I did a 3 hour 30 mile cycle in October from Paisley to Falkirk. I never had a breakfast and all along I kept thinking I need to take a break and eat or drink but never did. I was absolutely fine when I got to my destination. I have been on a fasting diet for nearly a year, I've lost 4 stone and strava says I'm trending faster. I'm sure I'm fat adapted. I would say that everyone's metabolism is different so do what suits you.
LOL. If you want to lose weight, go HCLF ! Not the contrary. I'm eating tons of carbs, every single day (last time I checked, it was in the range of 700-800g of carbs), to *maintain* my weight (BMI: 19).
Due to my rare disease, and I am not diabetic I have to restrict my carb intake. This has been a real challenge in finding the right balance when doing hard efforts or long rides usually more than two hours in duration.
Agree with thoughts on fasted training. I personally agree with fuel for the work required. High carbohydrate on the big days and lower on easier days. I think the timing of the carbohydrate is more important though
Great question about fasting. I have a BSc in Kin and was an endurance junkie for most of my life. What I found key to fat utilization is to do a couple of morninghour long run or rides without anything but a small coffee. Caffiene releases fat reserves and as long as the effort was 1 or 2, my body learned how to pick fat first. Having low body fat, as endurance bodies do, I was able to tune my diesel engine. Just like sleep high, train low altitude training. I kept my diet at a 50/25/25 . Chosing healthy fats and protiens makes a big differnce. Thanks for the great show
Hi Guys. The milk bottle over a light, is an old camping hack, which turns a torch/headtorch, into a small camping lantern. The whole bottle will light up and illuminate a decent, tent sized space.
Great video gang! Carbs FTW! Fasted training just spikes your cortisol which delays recovery. Froome was trolling with that pic. How on earth can you smash watts next day in the race if you didnt get enough carbs today? Ive ridden probs 1000km with Froome and co in the off season and they always were eating and drinking sugars every hour. You just go hypoglycemic and get dropped or crash if you try to ride fasted over 100w. Then you get home so hungry you bypass healthy low fat options like rice, corn, fruit, sugar etc and go for fatty meals like donuts, KFC, chips etc. The fat you eat is the fat you wear. IYKYK.
Apparently, I have done it all my life. I am a 40 year old and was a pro swimmer for 14 years. Back in the day during my training I would occasionally skip breakfast, and sometimes even lunch and still was able to perform at a very high level. Today, I do about 20 miles of running, 60 ish miles of biking per week and still have the same habits, no breakfast at all and something very small for lunch. At the evening I do my workout and only then I eat. Its not like I purposely not eating and starving myself all day, I am just not hungry, therefore, in my mind don’t need to eat… Anyone else doing something similar? Thanks for awesome content…
It looks like there was a bit of a misunderstanding in the video, as fasted training and low-carbs training are not the same. In fact in the study, there was no fasted training at all: they all had breakfast, but the PCHO group had only fats and proteins for breakfast on low days. So this is not a study on fasted training at all.
I've always done 80% of my rides fasted, but there's an important distinction: 80% of my rides are in zone 1 of a 3 zone training model (polarized). So I'm not burning carbs at that effort, therefore I don't need to consume carbs beforehand. I'm also usually not doing more than 2 hours at that level, but even 3 hours has never been a problem. The 1 or 2 rides per week where I'm doing HIIT sessions, I always eat some oatmeal beforehand and bring carbs with me on the bike.
If you are doing fasted riding it's su[er important to keep these rides easy and stead. Sounds like you're approaching it in the right way - you're got to stay fuelled for those hard efforts though 🍔
With fasted training, I would suffer a bonk quite soon - it seems my engine needs a filled tank to provide a high output. It is already the case when I did not eat as much as usual (I always put in 1.000 kcal with the breakfast), I cannot go as fast as usual. and with around 63kg on 1.77m, my body cannot store that much. And directly after the ride, I already fill the tank again, otherwise I go slower the next day.
I am 54 and not a racer, but I have been low carb for several years and the most active of my life. Biking is my secondary/tertiary sport. I do mountain climbs fully keto with Mac nuts and cheese. I carry way less food than others and have way less human waste to contend with (usually none). It takes a few months to really get fat adapted. My skin is better, my knees don’t hurt as they did on carbs. I know I can make more power with carbs, but the consequence of long term use for me is weight gain and inflammation causing pain. I know as I have had occasional slips. Everyone is different with different goals. I wouldn’t use exclusively low carb for a race, but it is great for daily menu.
The milk carton hack is a good idea. Brightness matters less than area -- drivers are looking for car sized objects at night. A big area is more visible. I've thought about it, but I'd like a better looking diffuser on the light.
I did wonder. It’s my submission and the opening of the carton fitted very neatly around the light with extra black tape to seal it. Definitely think Alex needs to do some tests
The fasted training was very interesting as my coach regularly included it in my programme. We are all very different and complex beings so one size doesn't fit all. I use fasting to control weight (Fast 800 Michael Moseley) but separate to my training regime. It works for me and it's worth exploring to see what works for others. In fairness, one short study needs a lot more work before it can be relied upon scientifically. 7:07
Great to hear it's worked for you! Like you said everyone is different - perhaps the issue comes with fasted diet and hard training. Not fuelling properly for those intense workouts can put you in a real hole 😳
And low carbs is not fasting, if you still eat fats or proteins... more like keto. Some random considerations: + Real fasting and exercising/working out might be good to reinforce ligaments. + Fasting under stress could be bad for the liver, at least longer term. + When I exercise while fasting I feel less soreness and stiffness, but these often come back as soon as I eat...
But the test subjects in the new study were "high fitness" males. Maybe low carb will still work for those who are currently overweight and are trying to lose body fat percentage.
The milk carton looks like a good hack to me. I reckon it’s supposed to light up and give some side visibility, and I hope you’ll test it and let us know. I’ve used similar, but on my front lights. Exposure used to sell little translucent silicone domes to fit the front of some of their lights, but I’m not sure if they still do. You lose quite a lot of beam brightness and reach, but in return get a bright glow that’s really visible from the sides. It seems like a good thing for in town, or on a second light. Also really good to convert the light into a lantern, e.g. in a tent, or for roadside repairs.
If you are NOT fat adapted.....strictly over many MONTHS....you might need to stick with sugar. Prof Tim Noakes is a good source and I follow his "titration during exercise only" approach. But I've nutritionally ketogenic since 2019 so I can go days without eating and still ride extensively. There was a recent marathoner who just did 5 marathons back to back and didn't eat anything! Most people cannot change their life styles to this degree so it's easy to write it off. It just an ideal way for me and optional for everyone else.
Can you describe Tim Noake's "titration during exercise only" approach? My attempts to search for it weren't successful. I am currently on a typical keto diet, except that I do consume some carbs right before/during bike rides.
@@Frostbiker Sure, I had to binge watch years of his interviews to pull out the basic information & as last I check, his book (medical school grade) wasn't published. His suggestion was to use 8-20g glucose per hour during strenuous exercise. Basics are avoid fructose as much as possible, avoid all liquid carbs unless during exercise, understand it will take most people MONTHS to fat adapt. So, I make my own sports drink. NUUN has 4g Dextrose (glucose) per tablet so I use large bike bottles so I add 2-(8g) and consume one bottle per hour. I also add potassium citrate and in hot climates I add Redmonds Real Salt. NUUN told me directly that their product does NOT contain fructose. If doing a Zone 2 ride, water is fine bc your are limiting your effort.
in the last 365 days according to my garmin watch i walked ~5300km, 17k steps/day... i also climbed 11666 floors (36146m?)... walking in a very straight line from where i live (vienna) i would be closing in on delhi by now..... so yes, walking your dog (which made me do all of this) should absolutely count
I was doing so great on the 30/30 challenge...21 days in a row! BUT I hurt my back and I've had to take a few days off 😢 hoping to get back on tomorrow
I wonder if any of the nutritionist in cycling thought about talking to type 2 diabetics. By balancing cycling and carb intake I have dispensed with the need for drugs, similarly balancing carb intake, high and low GI with energy output from training can be the only way to maximise a riders efficient use of foods.
I'm not a pro cyclist although I was competitive nationally in my younger days. I am 53 and have been riding fasted for the last 2 or 3 years. In fact from the 1st Jan this year I have switched to a carnivore diet. My basic diet is 4 eggs and 500-800g of steak a day. I train 6 days a week, 3 running followed by a weight training session and 3 cycling (MTB). My midweek sessions a 60-90 minutes but Sundays I ride 3 to 4 hours. Since switching from low carb to basically no carb I am riding better, feeling stronger and definitely stronger after the 2 hour mark. If I stick to Zone 2 and 3 I feel like I can ride all day. I don't feed at all during rides only add around 1 teaspoon of pink salt to every 2 litres of water. Typically after my ride I am not hungry and will only eat later in the day. I guess if I am racing and riding at a higher intensity it may be different but with the groups I ride with I am still one of the stronger riders in our group. If I eat before a ride I feel lethargic and nauseous if I push hard.
I’m 64 … weekend warrior… MTB trails … do about 80km per week. Been on carnivore (transition) diet for 3 weeks … so far so good but during this early stage I have found that I still need to start my ride with banana / yoghurt smoothie … with butter spiked coffee … and on rides longer that 3 hrs to supplement with 20gm carb bar. From research I trust that I would eventually get along without the carb “boost” as I get more efficient burning fats.
Very sad to hear of the death of Mick Ives. In the mid-sixties I was still a junior but Mick rode as a pro in our club president's team, Mottram Cycles. As I remember, his team mates were Jim Hendry, Derek Woodings and Mick Potts.
Your memory serves you correctly! Mick Ives was team mates with Jim Hendry (who went on to be the Chief Executive of the British Cycling Federation), Albert Hitchen, Eddie White and Derrick Woodings. They raced on the Mottram Cycles - Simplex in 1966 👍
@@gcn Thanks for straightening that out. I remember only riding only Evian Simplex imported gear for years due firstly to the sponsorship of our "local" team and secondly, following racing abroad I realised that Kitching and Holdsworth were horribly inflating the price of imports. Getting back to Mick, he was a great bloke, an absolute evangelist for cycling. And his turnout, for decades, was impeccable.
regarding low carbs......for me over the years i have learnt that your body will let you know how much & what type of food you need, which is down to experimenting what & when & how much your body is telling you, for me weather & intensity plays a big part as i find i am eating for tommorrow's ride,
As stat PhD, I'll just say that n=17 for a 2-way repeated ANOVA interaction is wonderfully underpowered (difficult to detect effect, if true). Unsurprising none found. Need at least n=60. Also, the fact that both groups were provided carbs for high-intensity tests? You'd muddle any effect you'd hope to find.
Richie Porte; what a hero! Greatest achievement: "two kids!!" Kudos to Richie for being such a well rounded person and athlete and kudos to his family for having a down to earth dad.
On that milk-bottle diffuser, not sure I'd want motorists seeing a red light as a side light. And why aren't amber/yellow side-marker lights made for bikes? A set on either fork and on either seat stay would go a long way for us to light up the night.
@@jonmathias6159 Thanks for letting me know that, surprised those are not a common part of lighting systems. And about two decades ago, I did have a pair of battery-powered small lights with plastic amber lenses from somewhere, no idea where I got them as I used to shop the discount section in bike shops et al, and not sure if they were proper side-lights or not but I fabricated a mount and positioned them on either side of the top tube near the head tube. Then I lost track of them for some reason. So thanks for sharing this info, I will look into buying a set or two or three, so important to light up ourselves and bikes and being seen from the sides by oncoming motorists could make all the difference.
@@jonmathias6159 Thanks, I just visited the Brightside site and met the whole family and yes, I see the amber side lights which mount to the front of the head tube and I will buy a pair. Thanks again and cheers for riding with lots of lights on your bike. 😀
Video opportunity to describe the pros/cons of available pricing tiers of lycra kit. I think GCN Tech had done that before, but a new clothing partner is a great time to revisit! Quantify heat and watt savings?
I cycle for enjoyment and my Health. I eat low carb keto for Health and am incorporating targeted carbs to fuel harder rides where a large portion is Zones 4 and up to turbo charge my top end. Carb loading outside of performance needs is not a long term Health strategy. If you are an average joe like me carb loading is not needed.
Hacks/Bodges - why would you need to *see* which cog or chainring you’re in? Pedal resistance is either too high, too low, or just right; you judge by feel, not sight.
2 years very low carb/keto diet. Mostly Z2 training 15 h / week including commuting. FTP marginally higher at 280W from 265W. 20kg lighter (all fat lost) 83kg down to 63kg. N=1 but I know what works for me! Nb I do eat carbs on the run up to and during big races/events
OK so now I want to know where Richie Port did his 107km/h. Hopefully not down I-70! But I'm really struggling for another freeway in Colorado that's steep enough to get that speed on a bike. Maybe Highway 6 from Keystone down into Silverthorne.....which is steep-ish but not steep.
I have been on a low-carb diet for 5 years and have been cycling for 4. I am encouraged that there was no significant difference. I have seen significant improvements as I have increased my cycling. Of course, I am not a pro. My choice of diet had nothing to do with cycling and still doesn't.
Just spent a week in London for the first time in my life. I loved seeing so many using the bicycle in many iterations to get around-not to mention it's a wonderful place to visit. Got as close to your hometown Bristol as Bath. What a lovely area you ride in, and as a bonus, the sun was shining over the fields climbing out of Bath on our bus. I would have loved to have a bike that day! It's worth revisiting in the future.
I rode around with too little food for a long time because they told us „that‘s like the pros do it“. Little did I know about all the EPO and the other stuff. Fuelling right brought me to another level.
Having been effortlessly slim until middle age, I struggled with my weight for years. I tried loads of different diets before going low carb with Fast 800. I lost the excess weight and have kept it off for over two years. What I now do is cluster carb consumption around intensive training, when I’m going to burn them. On non-cycling days, I stick to low carb. Apart from the weight loss benefits, I feel much better - no blood sugar crash, no racing heart etc. I sleep better as well.
Being on a weight loss journey I only want to buy expensive kit when 1, ill look good in it and 2, it'll fit me until it wears out. So last few years ive been buying previous seasons high end kit at reduced prices, last year's kit was (in my opinion)by far your best looking kit and i was excited about getting it when the latest one dropped. For me you guys selling top end expensive kits is no isssue, its just a shame that it seems due to a new sponsor, old kit sales are nowhere in sight. (Not exactly fitting in with being sustainable and reducing waste if all that stocks just been dispossed of) x
I am by far a Pro but 4 years ago I change to a Keto diet and lost a lot of weight, but the best is that my normal cramping with Carbs come to an end if I ride on Ketones- I am doing yearly a one day 230km MTB event in 11h00 and eat very little during the event and feel constantly strong - on medical side the high Carbo / sugar intake over the years are detrimental to your arteries ( oxidation of the LDL) that is the reason you hear of fit Ironman died of heart attacks
One study of 17 subjects is not powered enough to debunk anything. Add it to the list of thousands of studies, many on each side. Complex issue with too many variables. There are also big risks (over long term) of the huge carb intakes that cyclist pursue.
Podcast is a great idea ... although of course, its going to mean that huge swaves are going to be frustrating listening when you can't see what you are talking about ... unless its a podcast with pictures?
I buy high end kit for the most part. But, I really limit myself to one brand of jerseys and another brand of bibs. Fit and comfort are paramount. If I buy outside those brands it would only be through retailers that have a generous and easy return policy. I may be unaware but I don’t think that’s you guys.
Re your comments on speed walkers being as fast as a runner, my first cycle event was 26 miles and I did it in the same time as an elite marathon runner, put my pitiful performance in perspective, beaten on my bike by a runner!
Jonas is right. Taking the example of an athletics sprinter: for a max energy effort, the energy used for first two 2 seconds out of the blocks is from stored ATP. In the next 5-8 seconds, ATP is produced by the creatine phosphate system. Neither of these two systems result in lactic acid. The next system to kick is in anaerobic glycolosis. H+ ions and lactic acid are produced as byproducts of this energy creation process
On my last marathon I had to slow down after 30k. I was on a 03:25h finishing time. But then there was no energy left and I finished with 03:50h. Later I realized that for the whole weeks before I had been eating wrong because I trained hard and didn’t eat in the morning at all and even after the training I ate not enough. I was so focused on a low body weight. So in the end my body was just out of fuel for the big race day. I got myself a nutrition coach afterwards. I realized I concentrated too much on the numbers and the gear but completely forgot my body. There is a really interesting and shocking short documentary about a young female American runner who joined the Nike Team and just got crushed because of a wrong nutrition plan.
Timing on this video couldn't have been better. I started researching this just last night. Previously no matter the training session type, I didn't eat until some time after the training (instead of 18 hr fast, couldn't been reduced to 16 depending how I felt). Was considering just doing fasted on endurance rides and eating something small before and after the VO2/Threshold/Sweet Spot trainings.
I am not trying to win any races at 65, I am trying to maximize my vascular health. The 75% of rides I do fasted are perfect for drawing glucose down into the 70-80 mg/dL range which is great for the old and aging body. It is essentially intermittent CR, CR being the only dietary intervention that actually improves longevity. As for young high performance racers, enjoy the carbohydrates while you can. The carbs and slowing metabolism eventually catch up to you as you age and you will have to modify how you eat and drink (unless you are genetically gifted).
People who follow the two most competent strength training coaches, Jeff Cavaliere and Mike Isreatel, have known for a long time that (complex) carbs are not the enemy. Carb-cycling on the other hand is not a bad idea for weight loss (no, nothing to do with bicycles...)
I tried low carb diets to lose weight and it does work, but when I started eating cards again I just put it back on. Also tried fasted training and it just made me feel sick and weak. Just eat properly now and numbers are good and weight is coming down all be it slower than not eating carbs.
Adding the podcast option are you?? Well then it may be good justification to up your audio game. The room echo gets a bit tiring after about 10 min.. Cade Media and CTS have incredible audio… it would really help boost the quality of the show by adding dampen materials to the room as well as approaching capture differently by rethinking the microphone situation. The audio quality at GCN is the only aspect of production that feels amateurish.
So done properly, our pursuit of cycling performance energizes us for everyday life and fulfills our need for speed and adventure and competition and the whole bit as applicable. Like for me, only five miles or so per day over the past week, but those miles counted big for me for errands in the snow and freezing temps of Central Pennsylvania. And some of those errands were to get a cup of coffee and do some reading, one a book on the keto diet and another about cycling fundamentals including training and nutrition. And tho' I was already pretty much familiar with the contents of both books, it was helpful to read them and see how the chapters explained the various topics. And the take-away from the cycling book was carbs for energy on the bike and the keto was, essentially, low carbs so the body turns to stored fat for energy and weight loss. And I think there is room for both in a cyclist's diet, maybe a string of days keto, then carb up for training and riding. Or not or whatever. And my point is there is room for a lot of variety and healthy applications of this or that and I find it all to be fun and fascinating and so much better than lacking understanding and not paying attention to our intake.
Regarding "The End of Fasted Training," after reading the referenced paper, there are a couple of points you should have mentioned: (a) how many people you know with a VO2Max of 70, with the inference that perhaps the study results do not apply to the general population, and (b) how long the body takes to adapt to fasted training from non-fasted training and vice versa, which is usually longer than the period of this experiment.
I commute fastent to work every morning because I do intermittent fasting (if). I never did that because I believed it made me a better cyclist, but because of all the other health related benefits. I can recommend the podcast episode of Andrew Huberman about if🙏
@@durianriders are you also almost 50? And the purpose of if is not to be shredded. That could be done by going to the gym 6 days a week combined with eating many proteins and having a slightly lower calorie intake than that you burn.
@@durianriders Huberman is a neuroscientist with his own academic research limited to opthalmology. He knows next to nothing about sports nutrition. He's been caught multiple times misrepresenting research studies on his podcast to get across a point he wanted to sell people his sponsors' products.
Huberman regularly overinterprets the research he quotes or either unknowingly, but most likely with a business purpose, mispresents research studies. He's been regularly criticised by peer researchers for doing that.
@@82vitt yeah you must be very careful when someone also promotes products for different sponsors. But to my best knowledge there is not a sponsorship deal for intermittent fasting, so I believe that episode would be pretty accurate. It is also a guest episode, so the knowledges is given by the guest, not by Huberman himself. And how do you think anyone would profit from people engaging in IF?
I have so enjoyed the 30 in 30! I’ve joined you or done a stage of Tour de Zwift (sometimes both) every day. I am so sad that I can’t join Dan on Saturday! I have to squeeze in a ride later in my (West Coast US) day.
9 times out of 10 I listen to the tech and gcn shows as just audio letting it play in the background as I work and sometimes I’ll go back and check out what y’all talk about later
Unless you are a pro rider needing every single calorie for performance and thereby increased income, fasting and a low carb diet (if the carbs are proceeded), might not give you better results, but it gives longevity though autophagy and lower risk of insulins resistance, which causes type 2 diabetes.
Love the show as usual CGN, but come on - 1 study with a sample size of 17 (elite) athletes is very interesting, but is very far from conclusive, especially as it pertains to recreational athletes. Pretty poor science prognostication GCN.
It all depends on how metabolic flexible you are .. if you trained your body in a fasted state, it will be easier for to switch between burning carbs to fats once the glycogen storage are done! I for one do a carnivore diet + train on a fasted state (+12 hrs) every Saturday morning 100k and I never feel the need to take carbs. Again, you have to adapt before you can do this.
would really love to get some advice and guidance on buying second hand bikes and avoiding stolen bikes. All those stolen bikes go somewhere - what do you look for on places like Ebay or FB marketplace or when viewing a bike in person to make sure it's legit? (can I afford an indoor training setup? no. Do I have space for one? no. am I considering getting a cheapish second hand bike for indoor training when there's a storm blowing a hooley outside? apparently so)
Have you ever tried fasted training? 🥖
Yep ,and I felt so dizzy I couldn't even walk 😂
Low Carb diets have no place in cycling - what about for T2 non medicating Diabetics?
@@thediffguy Please take it easy 🙌 Have you gone back to fully fuelling your rides?
Yep, used fasted training to lose weight, but wouldn’t recommend it once your down to your ideal weight.
@@colinb8327 Agreed, It can be very dangerous and you have to stay within your limits 🙌
Sad to hear of Mick Ives - he had a big impact on my cycling life. His bike shop in Coventry was at the end of the road I grew up on. He was endlessly patient with the kid that would gawp at the bikes I couldn't afford, as well as selling me my first "Race Bike" (10 speed) when I got a summer job at 16, and then rebuilding it when I crashed it too!
He was a real gentleman. Very sad news
When I worked at John Atkins Cycles he used to come in regularly.
Definitely a legend.
You guys are clearly reacting quickly to the change that the GCN+ loss created suddenly. Praise for keeping that alert enjoyment and positivity. I'll keep supporting you, as you adjust, with whatever platforms you go with. Thank you for several years (in my case) of really great inspiration.
Thanks! We are still as motivated now, as we were 11 years ago when we started out!
Thank you! We're going to be putting out some great content here on TH-cam. Is there anything you would like to see more of in the future? 🎬
362w for an hour and definitely under 60kg at peak race weight that makes Porte on of the fittest humans to ever walk the planet.
It is one of the best feelings in life being your fittest and just punching up the climbs like you are on a moto. Being full of red blood cells, water and sugar with your lungs just sucking in oxygen to your working muscles. Rim brake bike with tubulars. Setting PR's. Best feeling!
I tried the low carb thing just because of the hype and I felt like I was riding a BMX with 2 flat tires. You just feel like trash. No wonder the low carb crew are so crazy about smashing in all the stims etc even on recovery days.
@ durianriders How long did you try it for? Adaption takes weeks, if not months. You also need to be feeding your body proper protein and saturated fats, so your study of 'one' is probably not optimal!
@@phil_d you have no idea do you bro
@Silidons91 Well, at least I can string a sentence together ... BRO.
What's your argument then, Sis?
what is your last ftp test and prove it with a strava link.@@phil_d
what is 'proper protein' lol. Who decides if it is 'proper'? The marketing department or some fake natty influencer in the gym pushing the lastest product to noobs? hehe.
Come on man. ZERO people are riding faster in ketosis!! There is no such thing as 'fat adaption' where you can magically ride hard with no bonk because your 'body just burns fat like a magic man!' xD
A friend of mine actually found a stolen bike on our local 2nd hand website in Poland. The bike had a name sticker on it. He googled the name and found the bike on some British site where people can post their stolen bikes. He got in touch with both the seller and the owner and with some gentle threats (😉), eventually the owner got his bike back! He even sent my friend a 100£ check (that was super hard to withdraw since we never really used checks in Poland)
That's such a cool story!
@@gcn it truly is! Also I guess I don't have to mention that the guy who was selling the bike, wasn't too smart and didn't remove the sticker and posted very detailed photos of some customizations on the bike 😉 That was so much helpful of him 😉
@@gcn one more thing! That finally proves that name stickers are not only lame. They can be actually useful!
Yes I ride fasted virtually every time, have been for 3+ years. I even ride 100 miles fasted. It doesn't always work, so I carry food with me, but 3 out of 4 times I just don't eat, my body actuallly performs better riding fasted vs fed. My eating window is usually 4 hours per day, so have become quite efficient at fat burning.
I have the same experience. Ive been eating one meal a day in the evening(zero snacking) and easily do 100mile+ rides wo any bonking or noticeable decrease in energy. Bonking is a sign of sugar/carb addiction and poor metabolic flexibility.
@@MrKadillak I've finally found some people like me! I ride 4 to 5 hours fasted and only drink water if the temp is over 30 degrees. I think that if I ate 120 grams of carbs an hour I would gain weight in a massive way.
The milk bottle is what we photographers would call a diffuser. Basically it takes a point light source and spreads it out. If you are taking a flash photo, it makes the light softer and less harsh. It does this by creating a larger but less bright light source.
Always enjoy when you two chaps are presenting together 👏
Glad you enjoyed it! Always fun shooting with these two!
Except when they describe everything for podders
I’m 17 years old and I did a 235Mi ride in 17 hours strictly off of fat burning, the first half of the day I ran off bacon for breakfast and second half of the day I ran off some fatty protein bars. For a ride that long it really helped to not have to worry about constantly fueling I could rely off the fat stores in my body to bring me through the day.
I did lose 7lbs though! I will say fat burning definitely has its place in the cycling community. It just depends on what your goals are.
Please do a video truly comparing your Fan and Pro kits.
Not just the stats, but how they feel and support you when it comes to (4+hr) rides. Get the whole team involved; especially Manon, for the ladies fit.
Cheer up Dan. I did 400 days in a row when I turned 70 ( minimum 15 mi. A day). Unfortunately had to stop because of injury, but still managed 7300 miles that year.
Hopefully the injury was not cycling related.
I am currently doing low carb diet to drop weight. I am down 23lbs so far in 4 months. I am doing daily rides at 145W for 1 hr and slowly taking the watts up by 10 each month. I am also doing core exercises and lifting. There are times I can get some nasty food cravings and I expected this. It takes a lot of will power to do low carb. My BP and HR are greatly improved and that is a side benefit I was hoping for doing this. My resting HR is typically in the low 50's to upper 40's. I am 55, 6'4", 225lbs currently and hoping to get under 210 by April 1st. On my weekends I do 2 rides and the first one is fasted. That one goes fine as long as I don't deviate from the power output. If you go over it a lot and really try to push the cravings go through the roof. I had blood work done about 3 weeks ago now and it all came back excellent.
you mostly lost glycogen
@@christophertan319523 lbs of glycogen 😂?? Seems a bit of a stretch to say that no
I think people have to realise, we're all built differently. I did a 3 hour 30 mile cycle in October from Paisley to Falkirk. I never had a breakfast and all along I kept thinking I need to take a break and eat or drink but never did. I was absolutely fine when I got to my destination.
I have been on a fasting diet for nearly a year, I've lost 4 stone and strava says I'm trending faster. I'm sure I'm fat adapted. I would say that everyone's metabolism is different so do what suits you.
@@AFFootballHighlights glycogen and water mostly lol you'll gain it back as soon as you add carbs back.
LOL. If you want to lose weight, go HCLF ! Not the contrary. I'm eating tons of carbs, every single day (last time I checked, it was in the range of 700-800g of carbs), to *maintain* my weight (BMI: 19).
Have been low carb for a couple of years. Game changing, more energy, don’t bonk on long rides, sleep better; would take some convincing to stop.
Due to my rare disease, and I am not diabetic I have to restrict my carb intake. This has been a real challenge in finding the right balance when doing hard efforts or long rides usually more than two hours in duration.
Agree with thoughts on fasted training. I personally agree with fuel for the work required. High carbohydrate on the big days and lower on easier days. I think the timing of the carbohydrate is more important though
Great question about fasting. I have a BSc in Kin and was an endurance junkie for most of my life. What I found key to fat utilization is to do a couple of morninghour long run or rides without anything but a small coffee. Caffiene releases fat reserves and as long as the effort was 1 or 2, my body learned how to pick fat first. Having low body fat, as endurance bodies do, I was able to tune my diesel engine. Just like sleep high, train low altitude training. I kept my diet at a 50/25/25 . Chosing healthy fats and protiens makes a big differnce. Thanks for the great show
Hi Guys.
The milk bottle over a light, is an old camping hack, which turns a torch/headtorch, into a small camping lantern. The whole bottle will light up and illuminate a decent, tent sized space.
Great video gang! Carbs FTW!
Fasted training just spikes your cortisol which delays recovery.
Froome was trolling with that pic. How on earth can you smash watts next day in the race if you didnt get enough carbs today?
Ive ridden probs 1000km with Froome and co in the off season and they always were eating and drinking sugars every hour. You just go hypoglycemic and get dropped or crash if you try to ride fasted over 100w. Then you get home so hungry you bypass healthy low fat options like rice, corn, fruit, sugar etc and go for fatty meals like donuts, KFC, chips etc. The fat you eat is the fat you wear.
IYKYK.
Apparently, I have done it all my life.
I am a 40 year old and was a pro swimmer for 14 years. Back in the day during my training I would occasionally skip breakfast, and sometimes even lunch and still was able to perform at a very high level.
Today, I do about 20 miles of running, 60 ish miles of biking per week and still have the same habits, no breakfast at all and something very small for lunch. At the evening I do my workout and only then I eat.
Its not like I purposely not eating and starving myself all day, I am just not hungry, therefore, in my mind don’t need to eat…
Anyone else doing something similar?
Thanks for awesome content…
You would have performed even better with a bit of sugar in you first thing in the morning. IYKYK.
Caption competition, this has got to be the first two-tag suggestion, Dan's "16 pack" suggestion and Si's: "Icy what you did there".
It looks like there was a bit of a misunderstanding in the video, as fasted training and low-carbs training are not the same. In fact in the study, there was no fasted training at all: they all had breakfast, but the PCHO group had only fats and proteins for breakfast on low days. So this is not a study on fasted training at all.
Great addition having gcn in podcast, the only downside is the caption competition and the hack/bodge 👌
Thanks, we are actually trying to describe what is being shown in a nice concise way to help out with these sections 👍👍
I've always done 80% of my rides fasted, but there's an important distinction: 80% of my rides are in zone 1 of a 3 zone training model (polarized). So I'm not burning carbs at that effort, therefore I don't need to consume carbs beforehand. I'm also usually not doing more than 2 hours at that level, but even 3 hours has never been a problem. The 1 or 2 rides per week where I'm doing HIIT sessions, I always eat some oatmeal beforehand and bring carbs with me on the bike.
If you are doing fasted riding it's su[er important to keep these rides easy and stead. Sounds like you're approaching it in the right way - you're got to stay fuelled for those hard efforts though 🍔
With fasted training, I would suffer a bonk quite soon - it seems my engine needs a filled tank to provide a high output. It is already the case when I did not eat as much as usual (I always put in 1.000 kcal with the breakfast), I cannot go as fast as usual. and with around 63kg on 1.77m, my body cannot store that much. And directly after the ride, I already fill the tank again, otherwise I go slower the next day.
I am 54 and not a racer, but I have been low carb for several years and the most active of my life. Biking is my secondary/tertiary sport. I do mountain climbs fully keto with Mac nuts and cheese. I carry way less food than others and have way less human waste to contend with (usually none). It takes a few months to really get fat adapted. My skin is better, my knees don’t hurt as they did on carbs. I know I can make more power with carbs, but the consequence of long term use for me is weight gain and inflammation causing pain. I know as I have had occasional slips. Everyone is different with different goals. I wouldn’t use exclusively low carb for a race, but it is great for daily menu.
I think they are fans of carbs.
@@wgjung1 oh for sure. Gels they commonly use are pure sugar
Low carb training does work, but not within 5 weeks. Train at least 6 months on low carb, and the benefits are amazing!
THANK YOU For making it a Podcast! You instantly made my 2-hour drives to work a little better!
Yay! The only way we could enjoy a car ride too 😉
The milk carton hack is a good idea. Brightness matters less than area -- drivers are looking for car sized objects at night. A big area is more visible. I've thought about it, but I'd like a better looking diffuser on the light.
I did wonder. It’s my submission and the opening of the carton fitted very neatly around the light with extra black tape to seal it. Definitely think Alex needs to do some tests
Richie Porte - cycling's loveliest guy
The fasted training was very interesting as my coach regularly included it in my programme. We are all very different and complex beings so one size doesn't fit all. I use fasting to control weight (Fast 800 Michael Moseley) but separate to my training regime. It works for me and it's worth exploring to see what works for others. In fairness, one short study needs a lot more work before it can be relied upon scientifically. 7:07
Great to hear it's worked for you! Like you said everyone is different - perhaps the issue comes with fasted diet and hard training. Not fuelling properly for those intense workouts can put you in a real hole 😳
And low carbs is not fasting, if you still eat fats or proteins... more like keto.
Some random considerations:
+ Real fasting and exercising/working out might be good to reinforce ligaments.
+ Fasting under stress could be bad for the liver, at least longer term.
+ When I exercise while fasting I feel less soreness and stiffness, but these often come back as soon as I eat...
But the test subjects in the new study were "high fitness" males. Maybe low carb will still work for those who are currently overweight and are trying to lose body fat percentage.
The milk carton looks like a good hack to me. I reckon it’s supposed to light up and give some side visibility, and I hope you’ll test it and let us know.
I’ve used similar, but on my front lights. Exposure used to sell little translucent silicone domes to fit the front of some of their lights, but I’m not sure if they still do. You lose quite a lot of beam brightness and reach, but in return get a bright glow that’s really visible from the sides. It seems like a good thing for in town, or on a second light. Also really good to convert the light into a lantern, e.g. in a tent, or for roadside repairs.
If you are NOT fat adapted.....strictly over many MONTHS....you might need to stick with sugar. Prof Tim Noakes is a good source and I follow his "titration during exercise only" approach. But I've nutritionally ketogenic since 2019 so I can go days without eating and still ride extensively. There was a recent marathoner who just did 5 marathons back to back and didn't eat anything! Most people cannot change their life styles to this degree so it's easy to write it off. It just an ideal way for me and optional for everyone else.
Can you describe Tim Noake's "titration during exercise only" approach? My attempts to search for it weren't successful. I am currently on a typical keto diet, except that I do consume some carbs right before/during bike rides.
@@Frostbiker Sure, I had to binge watch years of his interviews to pull out the basic information & as last I check, his book (medical school grade) wasn't published. His suggestion was to use 8-20g glucose per hour during strenuous exercise. Basics are avoid fructose as much as possible, avoid all liquid carbs unless during exercise, understand it will take most people MONTHS to fat adapt. So, I make my own sports drink. NUUN has 4g Dextrose (glucose) per tablet so I use large bike bottles so I add 2-(8g) and consume one bottle per hour. I also add potassium citrate and in hot climates I add Redmonds Real Salt. NUUN told me directly that their product does NOT contain fructose. If doing a Zone 2 ride, water is fine bc your are limiting your effort.
in the last 365 days according to my garmin watch i walked ~5300km, 17k steps/day... i also climbed 11666 floors (36146m?)... walking in a very straight line from where i live (vienna) i would be closing in on delhi by now..... so yes, walking your dog (which made me do all of this) should absolutely count
#CaptionCompetition: Journalist: “Are you Narvaez about the race?”
Narvaez: “Nah, I’m pretty chill”
I was doing so great on the 30/30 challenge...21 days in a row! BUT I hurt my back and I've had to take a few days off 😢 hoping to get back on tomorrow
Don't stress about! Sounds like you've been smashing it! We would love to see you back out there but please go easy on yourself 🙌
I wonder if any of the nutritionist in cycling thought about talking to type 2 diabetics. By balancing cycling and carb intake I have dispensed with the need for drugs, similarly balancing carb intake, high and low GI with energy output from training can be the only way to maximise a riders efficient use of foods.
I'm not a pro cyclist although I was competitive nationally in my younger days. I am 53 and have been riding fasted for the last 2 or 3 years. In fact from the 1st Jan this year I have switched to a carnivore diet. My basic diet is 4 eggs and 500-800g of steak a day. I train 6 days a week, 3 running followed by a weight training session and 3 cycling (MTB). My midweek sessions a 60-90 minutes but Sundays I ride 3 to 4 hours. Since switching from low carb to basically no carb I am riding better, feeling stronger and definitely stronger after the 2 hour mark. If I stick to Zone 2 and 3 I feel like I can ride all day. I don't feed at all during rides only add around 1 teaspoon of pink salt to every 2 litres of water. Typically after my ride I am not hungry and will only eat later in the day. I guess if I am racing and riding at a higher intensity it may be different but with the groups I ride with I am still one of the stronger riders in our group. If I eat before a ride I feel lethargic and nauseous if I push hard.
I’m 64 … weekend warrior… MTB trails … do about 80km per week. Been on carnivore (transition) diet for 3 weeks … so far so good but during this early stage I have found that I still need to start my ride with banana / yoghurt smoothie … with butter spiked coffee … and on rides longer that 3 hrs to supplement with 20gm carb bar. From research I trust that I would eventually get along without the carb “boost” as I get more efficient burning fats.
Very sad to hear of the death of Mick Ives. In the mid-sixties I was still a junior but Mick rode as a pro in our club president's team, Mottram Cycles.
As I remember, his team mates were Jim Hendry, Derek Woodings and Mick Potts.
On second thoughts, perhaps I'm mixing Mick up with Eddie White.
Your memory serves you correctly! Mick Ives was team mates with Jim Hendry (who went on to be the Chief Executive of the British Cycling Federation), Albert Hitchen, Eddie White and Derrick Woodings. They raced on the Mottram Cycles - Simplex in 1966 👍
@@gcn Thanks for straightening that out.
I remember only riding only Evian Simplex imported gear for years due firstly to the sponsorship of our "local" team and secondly, following racing abroad I realised that Kitching and Holdsworth were horribly inflating the price of imports.
Getting back to Mick, he was a great bloke, an absolute evangelist for cycling.
And his turnout, for decades, was impeccable.
regarding low carbs......for me over the years i have learnt that your body will let you know how much & what type of food you need, which is down to experimenting what & when & how much your body is telling you, for me weather & intensity plays a big part as i find i am eating for tommorrow's ride,
As stat PhD, I'll just say that n=17 for a 2-way repeated ANOVA interaction is wonderfully underpowered (difficult to detect effect, if true). Unsurprising none found. Need at least n=60. Also, the fact that both groups were provided carbs for high-intensity tests? You'd muddle any effect you'd hope to find.
Richie Porte; what a hero! Greatest achievement: "two kids!!" Kudos to Richie for being such a well rounded person and athlete and kudos to his family for having a down to earth dad.
Thanks for the link to the paper...
Perfect! Just got done watching Matt Stephens video, now time for the GCN twins!!!!
Sounds like a fun evening 😂
Si's botched leap over the barrier was more epic!
My wife was gutted the Tadej/Dan cycling shorts clip wasn't inserted. Hope that was not dropped because of the podcast and was just an oversight.
Immediately noted the 30in30 ride with Dan. I hope Zwift can handle such a big peloton.
I’m so sad that I can’t join this ride! I won’t be home at that time
It's going to be a great ride 🙌
On that milk-bottle diffuser, not sure I'd want motorists seeing a red light as a side light. And why aren't amber/yellow side-marker lights made for bikes? A set on either fork and on either seat stay would go a long way for us to light up the night.
You can buy them. I’ve used a Brightside amber light fixed to the top tube for commuting for years.
@@jonmathias6159 Thanks for letting me know that, surprised those are not a common part of lighting systems. And about two decades ago, I did have a pair of battery-powered small lights with plastic amber lenses from somewhere, no idea where I got them as I used to shop the discount section in bike shops et al, and not sure if they were proper side-lights or not but I fabricated a mount and positioned them on either side of the top tube near the head tube. Then I lost track of them for some reason. So thanks for sharing this info, I will look into buying a set or two or three, so important to light up ourselves and bikes and being seen from the sides by oncoming motorists could make all the difference.
@@jonmathias6159 Thanks, I just visited the Brightside site and met the whole family and yes, I see the amber side lights which mount to the front of the head tube and I will buy a pair. Thanks again and cheers for riding with lots of lights on your bike. 😀
Video opportunity to describe the pros/cons of available pricing tiers of lycra kit. I think GCN Tech had done that before, but a new clothing partner is a great time to revisit! Quantify heat and watt savings?
Completely agree with the joy of cross chaining ... I always go up Boxhill in the big ring, for the feel good and bragging rights
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I cycle for enjoyment and my Health. I eat low carb keto for Health and am incorporating targeted carbs to fuel harder rides where a large portion is Zones 4 and up to turbo charge my top end. Carb loading outside of performance needs is not a long term Health strategy. If you are an average joe like me carb loading is not needed.
Hacks/Bodges - why would you need to *see* which cog or chainring you’re in? Pedal resistance is either too high, too low, or just right; you judge by feel, not sight.
2 years very low carb/keto diet. Mostly Z2 training 15 h / week including commuting. FTP marginally higher at 280W from 265W. 20kg lighter (all fat lost) 83kg down to 63kg. N=1 but I know what works for me! Nb I do eat carbs on the run up to and during big races/events
OK so now I want to know where Richie Port did his 107km/h. Hopefully not down I-70! But I'm really struggling for another freeway in Colorado that's steep enough to get that speed on a bike. Maybe Highway 6 from Keystone down into Silverthorne.....which is steep-ish but not steep.
I have been on a low-carb diet for 5 years and have been cycling for 4. I am encouraged that there was no significant difference. I have seen significant improvements as I have increased my cycling. Of course, I am not a pro. My choice of diet had nothing to do with cycling and still doesn't.
LOL @ the "clip". Pretty sure I just laughed as long as you did Si!! 🤣🤣
Hi Guys. I think the pen light to see rear cassette in the dark is a hack. I do a lot of riding on unlit country roads and agree this is a great idea.
That's the beauty of Hacks/Bodge it's all subjective 😂
Just spent a week in London for the first time in my life. I loved seeing so many using the bicycle in many iterations to get around-not to mention it's a wonderful place to visit. Got as close to your hometown Bristol as Bath. What a lovely area you ride in, and as a bonus, the sun was shining over the fields climbing out of Bath on our bus. I would have loved to have a bike that day! It's worth revisiting in the future.
I rode around with too little food for a long time because they told us „that‘s like the pros do it“. Little did I know about all the EPO and the other stuff. Fuelling right brought me to another level.
Having been effortlessly slim until middle age, I struggled with my weight for years. I tried loads of different diets before going low carb with Fast 800. I lost the excess weight and have kept it off for over two years.
What I now do is cluster carb consumption around intensive training, when I’m going to burn them. On non-cycling days, I stick to low carb. Apart from the weight loss benefits, I feel much better - no blood sugar crash, no racing heart etc. I sleep better as well.
Being on a weight loss journey I only want to buy expensive kit when 1, ill look good in it and 2, it'll fit me until it wears out. So last few years ive been buying previous seasons high end kit at reduced prices, last year's kit was (in my opinion)by far your best looking kit and i was excited about getting it when the latest one dropped. For me you guys selling top end expensive kits is no isssue, its just a shame that it seems due to a new sponsor, old kit sales are nowhere in sight. (Not exactly fitting in with being sustainable and reducing waste if all that stocks just been dispossed of) x
I am by far a Pro but 4 years ago I change to a Keto diet and lost a lot of weight, but the best is that my normal cramping with Carbs come to an end if I ride on Ketones- I am doing yearly a one day 230km MTB event in 11h00 and eat very little during the event and feel constantly strong - on medical side the high Carbo / sugar intake over the years are detrimental to your arteries ( oxidation of the LDL) that is the reason you hear of fit Ironman died of heart attacks
Could listen to Richie Porte talk all day - so calming!
One study of 17 subjects is not powered enough to debunk anything. Add it to the list of thousands of studies, many on each side. Complex issue with too many variables.
There are also big risks (over long term) of the huge carb intakes that cyclist pursue.
Podcast is a great idea ... although of course, its going to mean that huge swaves are going to be frustrating listening when you can't see what you are talking about ... unless its a podcast with pictures?
A podcast with pictures... Someone should get on that 😉 - Great to hear you like the sounds of a GCN podcast!
@@gcn in the Spotify app I get pictures
I buy high end kit for the most part. But, I really limit myself to one brand of jerseys and another brand of bibs. Fit and comfort are paramount. If I buy outside those brands it would only be through retailers that have a generous and easy return policy. I may be unaware but I don’t think that’s you guys.
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Re your comments on speed walkers being as fast as a runner, my first cycle event was 26 miles and I did it in the same time as an elite marathon runner, put my pitiful performance in perspective, beaten on my bike by a runner!
Jonas is right. Taking the example of an athletics sprinter: for a max energy effort, the energy used for first two 2 seconds out of the blocks is from stored ATP. In the next 5-8 seconds, ATP is produced by the creatine phosphate system. Neither of these two systems result in lactic acid. The next system to kick is in anaerobic glycolosis. H+ ions and lactic acid are produced as byproducts of this energy creation process
On my last marathon I had to slow down after 30k. I was on a 03:25h finishing time. But then there was no energy left and I finished with 03:50h. Later I realized that for the whole weeks before I had been eating wrong because I trained hard and didn’t eat in the morning at all and even after the training I ate not enough. I was so focused on a low body weight. So in the end my body was just out of fuel for the big race day. I got myself a nutrition coach afterwards. I realized I concentrated too much on the numbers and the gear but completely forgot my body. There is a really interesting and shocking short documentary about a young female American runner who joined the Nike Team and just got crushed because of a wrong nutrition plan.
fasted training works fine for me thanks
Drop a red led in a clear water bottle on the seat post and have a 360 degree lamp... good for side visibility at junctions and round abouts.
Timing on this video couldn't have been better. I started researching this just last night. Previously no matter the training session type, I didn't eat until some time after the training (instead of 18 hr fast, couldn't been reduced to 16 depending how I felt). Was considering just doing fasted on endurance rides and eating something small before and after the VO2/Threshold/Sweet Spot trainings.
I do not race I just commute and do a little bit of touring it is still healthier than driving
I am not trying to win any races at 65, I am trying to maximize my vascular health. The 75% of rides I do fasted are perfect for drawing glucose down into the 70-80 mg/dL range which is great for the old and aging body. It is essentially intermittent CR, CR being the only dietary intervention that actually improves longevity. As for young high performance racers, enjoy the carbohydrates while you can. The carbs and slowing metabolism eventually catch up to you as you age and you will have to modify how you eat and drink (unless you are genetically gifted).
People who follow the two most competent strength training coaches, Jeff Cavaliere and Mike Isreatel, have known for a long time that (complex) carbs are not the enemy.
Carb-cycling on the other hand is not a bad idea for weight loss (no, nothing to do with bicycles...)
I tried low carb diets to lose weight and it does work, but when I started eating cards again I just put it back on. Also tried fasted training and it just made me feel sick and weak. Just eat properly now and numbers are good and weight is coming down all be it slower than not eating carbs.
Adding the podcast option are you?? Well then it may be good justification to up your audio game. The room echo gets a bit tiring after about 10 min.. Cade Media and CTS have incredible audio… it would really help boost the quality of the show by adding dampen materials to the room as well as approaching capture differently by rethinking the microphone situation. The audio quality at GCN is the only aspect of production that feels amateurish.
So done properly, our pursuit of cycling performance energizes us for everyday life and fulfills our need for speed and adventure and competition and the whole bit as applicable. Like for me, only five miles or so per day over the past week, but those miles counted big for me for errands in the snow and freezing temps of Central Pennsylvania. And some of those errands were to get a cup of coffee and do some reading, one a book on the keto diet and another about cycling fundamentals including training and nutrition. And tho' I was already pretty much familiar with the contents of both books, it was helpful to read them and see how the chapters explained the various topics. And the take-away from the cycling book was carbs for energy on the bike and the keto was, essentially, low carbs so the body turns to stored fat for energy and weight loss. And I think there is room for both in a cyclist's diet, maybe a string of days keto, then carb up for training and riding. Or not or whatever. And my point is there is room for a lot of variety and healthy applications of this or that and I find it all to be fun and fascinating and so much better than lacking understanding and not paying attention to our intake.
Thanks for your honest review. I love buck knives. My father would always carry his Buck folder
Regarding "The End of Fasted Training," after reading the referenced paper, there are a couple of points you should have mentioned: (a) how many people you know with a VO2Max of 70, with the inference that perhaps the study results do not apply to the general population, and (b) how long the body takes to adapt to fasted training from non-fasted training and vice versa, which is usually longer than the period of this experiment.
I commute fastent to work every morning because I do intermittent fasting (if). I never did that because I believed it made me a better cyclist, but because of all the other health related benefits.
I can recommend the podcast episode of Andrew Huberman about if🙏
How come huberman isnt ripped? I ALWAYS eat some sugars with in 30 mins of waking up and Im absolutely shredded regardless how little I train.
@@durianriders are you also almost 50? And the purpose of if is not to be shredded. That could be done by going to the gym 6 days a week combined with eating many proteins and having a slightly lower calorie intake than that you burn.
@@durianriders Huberman is a neuroscientist with his own academic research limited to opthalmology. He knows next to nothing about sports nutrition. He's been caught multiple times misrepresenting research studies on his podcast to get across a point he wanted to sell people his sponsors' products.
Huberman regularly overinterprets the research he quotes or either unknowingly, but most likely with a business purpose, mispresents research studies. He's been regularly criticised by peer researchers for doing that.
@@82vitt yeah you must be very careful when someone also promotes products for different sponsors. But to my best knowledge there is not a sponsorship deal for intermittent fasting, so I believe that episode would be pretty accurate. It is also a guest episode, so the knowledges is given by the guest, not by Huberman himself. And how do you think anyone would profit from people engaging in IF?
I have so enjoyed the 30 in 30! I’ve joined you or done a stage of Tour de Zwift (sometimes both) every day. I am so sad that I can’t join Dan on Saturday! I have to squeeze in a ride later in my (West Coast US) day.
You should had bring back Wattage Bazooka for the Van der Poel overtakes in Benidorm
I use Morning fasted workouts for weight loss, works great for me.
Hey guys love the program and have followed GCN for a few years now. Any chance you will do a program on Bahrain Victorious and Merida Bikes
#captioncompetition: Cycling gives you Buns of Steel and abs of ice.
Winner winner chicken dinner
Caption Competition
I think my vest looks very ice.
9 times out of 10 I listen to the tech and gcn shows as just audio letting it play in the background as I work and sometimes I’ll go back and check out what y’all talk about later
I'd love to see if the milk bottle on the light works. In theory it should illuminate the bottle and diffuse the light nicely
Unless you are a pro rider needing every single calorie for performance and thereby increased income, fasting and a low carb diet (if the carbs are proceeded), might not give you better results, but it gives longevity though autophagy and lower risk of insulins resistance, which causes type 2 diabetes.
Accurate photo of Johnathan Narváez attempting to protecting himself after his mrs asked why his ride took 6 hours
What’s your greatest achievement?
“Two kids”
Love him. As a dad, I find it tough to make time for bicycling with two kids. Wholeheartedly agree here.
Love the show as usual CGN, but come on - 1 study with a sample size of 17 (elite) athletes is very interesting, but is very far from conclusive, especially as it pertains to recreational athletes. Pretty poor science prognostication GCN.
It all depends on how metabolic flexible you are .. if you trained your body in a fasted state, it will be easier for to switch between burning carbs to fats once the glycogen storage are done! I for one do a carnivore diet + train on a fasted state (+12 hrs) every Saturday morning 100k and I never feel the need to take carbs. Again, you have to adapt before you can do this.
how many av watts?
50 or 60w average?
I was doing my first interval session of 2024 while watching this GCN show. I swear, Simon's voice slows down during VO2 intervals.
Richie answering "pwfaa" to every question 😂
would really love to get some advice and guidance on buying second hand bikes and avoiding stolen bikes. All those stolen bikes go somewhere - what do you look for on places like Ebay or FB marketplace or when viewing a bike in person to make sure it's legit? (can I afford an indoor training setup? no. Do I have space for one? no. am I considering getting a cheapish second hand bike for indoor training when there's a storm blowing a hooley outside? apparently so)
That rear camera mudguard is stupid, it blocks visibility of the rear light. Most drivers look down at it. Daft