What caused Patrick's change of heart?
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She is objectively the nicest person in Patrick Bateman’s life.
That homeless dude with the dog was pretty nice to Patrick
@@jimmybags6598Not really he was just there interacting with him. He didn't know Patrick to be nice to him
He knew how hard it was to find a good secretary in New York at that time.
This was an actual problem during the 80s.
😂
LMAOOO
The quandaries of killing or not killing your secretary with a nail gun was a common issue back then?
😂😂😂
@@Joseph-ic8xd no, finding another worthy afterwards was common issue
She's the only one characterwho listens to Patrick when he speaks
I think this is actually pretty accurate.
Bingo , good job dude
What about that gay dude who made Patrick wash his gloves?
@@deidra-v6575 what about him? Patrick was kinda opening up to his assistant with his line of questioning. It's not even comparable with his other interactions.
@@craineyfit8619 that's true but the comment was about "characters who LISTENS to Patrick when he speaks".
It's the empath meets the psychopath.
No such thing as an empath
@@revenant097you have posted cringe my dude
Empath was literally created by Star Trek as a psychic alien race my dude. People that claim to be empaths are saying they are real life Star Trek aliens.
@@revenant097 the dark empath community would like a word
@@JohnHoltPrimalTraining No, it's actually in the English dictionary buddy, and "Conspiracy Theorist" came from the CIA. What's your point?
I think he almost smiles right before he says “I might hurt you”. He played the role of an actual psychopath soooooooo freaking well
"you have to leave now and never come back here. Have you ever heard of insect politics? Neither have I, insects don't have politics."
Bro what?
@@Joe-yw9jm its from the fly
@@Joe-yw9jm bro Brundlefly
Hahahahahshs good one
Damn, I gotta watch the fly now. Soooo good
he was truly expressing his desire to contain his murderous intent, while using language that would suggest he was simply turning down her affections. If she were able to see the double meaning in his words… she would be screaming.
What was the double meaning of when the creepy realtor lady was saying "I think you should leave. Don't come back"
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@@thekidskushed There was no real double meaning to that but rather context. They covered it up.
When Patrick showed up, he immediately checked the closet (the scene of the crimes, which the lady knew because they covered it up). He then proceeded to get caught in a lie with the newspaper back and forth. So the Lady basically knew at this point that he is the killer, but since she still wanted to profit off the place, she just told him to leave and never come back there again. At leasts thats my interpretation
@@thekidskushed That was one of the creepiest parts of the whole movie
@@ericking2207 funny how such a cheap (budget wise), actionless and short scene can be one of the most impactful. Just a simple conversation that leaves you tense and makes you feel that Patrick (as dangerous as he is) is the victim and in danger.
@@billyrj973 Yeah. It's like, after a few words, she can sense the evil in him. And he can sense that she senses it. And she goes full OG / self protect / don't f**k with me mode right away.
"You bad boy", That's what saved her.
She's lucky she asked the right suggestive questions that planted the idea in his conflicted mind that he really had the option to let her leave unharmed.
He didn't want to kill her. Stop implying some intention to manipulate him, the point was that she is genuine and actually cares for him, she isn't a psychopath materialist hedonist shallow facade of humanity like everyone else in the film and book
@@Nikotheleepic The frustration you feel in your response is literally everyone playing Hogwarts Legacy right now. It really is a whole ass mood. 👍🏾
That call saved her, because it made him compare Jeanne to Evelyn. One cares and listens to him, while the other doesn't. I know for a fact he didn't love Jeane, but he did care for her because she made him feel human.
"Don't just stare at it, eat it".
Patrick is psycopath he is not normal if he normal he probably fuck with her😂
I think
A) Patrick was never a killer, so he couldn't actually kill the gay guy and this woman in real life, bc irl he is a weasel, people pleaser, incompetent jerk
B) she was the only one who see him as a person, and the whole american psycho persona was an escapism for Patrick to stop being a grey suit from the many. She see her as an individum, so killing her wouldn't make him more individual, it woul make him less
I have the same theory. The Patrick Bateman character is a paranoid schizophrenic. This is obvious. The killings are just fantasies in his head and the movie skirts between reality and PB's delusions. The biggest tell of this is the scene with the realtor. She is is part of reality and part of his delusion is having killed Paul Allen.
Exactly. He's a dork, like Manu others, he just feels like he can be different.
At the end of the movie I also thought that he wasn't a killer, as many did, but the director years after clarify that he does was a killer, (also has allucinations ofc) the point is that people was so selfish and only watch for themselves that didn't confuse people with other people, that's what happen at the end with the lawyer thinking that he ate with the guy (i dont remember the name) in London.
He was a killer this has been confirmed already
@@keeganwilson9062 it really hasn’t. The author left it deliberately ambiguous.
Jean was the only person Patrick didn't feel disgust towards. Thats why he couldnt do it.
This is the moment Patrick Bateman became the American Psycho
When he realized there was no air line connecting to his nailgun
The thing is, with a personality like His, he should expectedly kill her and assume that she'll just be the same as any other person out there in the world. But the more he got to know her, the less he saw her as another npc and more like the person she is: she's way dif than the pther characters in the movie. He's not used to that.
Patrick wasnt the only psychopath in that film
„You can always be thinner look better.“🗿🍷
A moment of true clarity for Bateman.
She was genuine
I think he didn’t want to have to get a new assistant.
I hope they get together
😂
Haha
I hope they get a date at some very special place. Maybe called like dorsia or something 😂
They get married in the book
Watch the movie kid😂
Very nice. Now let’s see Paul Allen’s comment
he changed his mind cause of the minor inconvenience of the phone, not because he felt any sense of empathy for another human being
I love how he’s barely holding it together saying “I don’t think I can control myself” for her sake
The outlaw had mercy
I think he felt a bit naked because he got caught in a lie so embarrassingly. He told her he wanted a meaningful relationship and then the other girls leaves that message completely exposing the lie. I think he felt exposed and maybe even a little embarrassed which ruined the fun for him.
This exactly feels like the one girl Ted Bundy didn't kill
I think it was seeing the stark difference between the 2 women that did it. His narcissistic, cheating, future trophy wife fiancee, and his loyal, naive, pure soul secretary. He decided that because she had a soul unlike his other victims, she deserved to live.
He was acting on impulse, so when the phone rang, it distracted him enough to let go of his impulse. It’s a rare moment in the film where he actually displays some form of empathy, as well.
The way that Patrick moved in behind her,he’s done that before.
His hate for Resse Witherspoon made him take pity for her.
Bro he was honest the guy knew that if she stayed he would take advantage of her in a bad way what a saviour move right there.
I see it as the scorpion who DIDNT help the frog across the pond. Because the scorpion knew that by its own nature it would kill the frog if it jumped on. And so the scorpion gave the frog fair warning
Because she is beautiful.
She's one of the only people who Patrick knew was 100% real. Her and Louise. Both used Patrick's first name and were not perfect or trying to be.
Only sincere person in the entire film
My dumbass over here thinking the short would provide an answer 😂
Good comments. She was the most grounded, real person in what was otherwise a very real superficial 80's.
He doesnt actually kill anyone in this movie. Its revealed at the end that he hallucinates all his murders.
This scene is amazing. It shows how no one can be 100% evil.
Kindness saves all of us
His mind never changed , she changed which made him think different . If he can change her mind then maybe he could change his own culminating in a new response or reaction
Patrick doesn't deserve her...she is innocent...
He knew jean was an innocent person caught in the crossfire of a soulless society
He didn’t kill her cause he forgot to connect the compressor
She was about to have her happiness at last but awww so sad 😩😩
He remembered he had to return some videos.
Her honesty
Is all his murders symbolic
All? Mhh no. Most? Yes.
What about the bum or the cat in the atm lol
@@victorespino5650 I think the night where he becomes completely crazy and kills tons of people in a row is only in his mind. It starts with the cat indeed, and the fact that the machine shows "Feed me a stray cat" proves that it's just an hallucination. However some of the other murders are probably real.
@@Matth_M All the murders are real. It’s just that his perception of reality started to get warped after the ATM moment.
This is the only time in the movie where he shows anything near true human emotion. Something about her triggered that reaction, but he would have killed her had she stayed. He might even have made her death worse than the others because of how he felt (if only fleetingly).
She can fix him
In his eyes personally it’s probably bc she listened to him, like he said wear better outfits so she did. So he spared her and it was 100% also her that got her spared bc we all know she could’ve smiled and just changed the convo instead of letting it be awkward, she fled when she got the chance and if she didn’t right then and there he’d snap back. But if we wanna get artsy yea he saw her as a human rather than someone who saw others as pawns and easily mixed up names
Let’s see Paul Allen’s empathy.
He could not kill her because she was authentic. You see, in the whole movie she is the only one he had an actual conversation.
If you don't like that comment, how about this one. Sigma men can't love, they can only not kill.
I think this part of movie is very special. Although it may seem unlikely for him not to kill her in a real situation, it shows that human nature is sensitive to sincerity, kindness and innocence.
Chloe Sevigny is such an amazing actress. She should get more recognition😍❤️🔥🤩
she's pretty and was nice to him.
One of my favorite actors fr. He kills every role
I think by far the most accurate interpretation of him sparing her is not that he genuinely felt a shred of empathy, its that she listened to him, she clearly had depth and wasnt an archetype like everyone else in the show. It wasnt that he cared for her, its that she was never dull or shallow in a single sentence, so patrick saw something in her. Its not empathy as much "humanity" or simply a personal connection of some sort. And its all haluncinated lol
It's not hallucinated the creator even said lol tired of seeing these comments
No he changed his mind when he realized the nail gun was not hooked up to an air line...
She's so beautiful btw
He wasn’t wearing his rain suit that’s why. Didn’t want to make a mess :)
What change of heart? He never actually even hurt anyone….
Naturally pretty, looks like she hasn't had anything done to her face
Yes indeed. Chloe Sevigny is indeed very sexy 😘.
He had The Ed Gein conundrum going on….
That nail gun ain't connected to NOTHING
She should've said i got return some videotapes
Patrick Bateman has a sort of OCD, when he gets anxious he kills to alleviate that feeling. It's also the only way that he can express himself due to his lifestyle, and the people he surrounds himself with.
He doesn't want to kill his assistant because he cares about her in his own messed up way, basically because she looks up to him unconditionally, and cares about what he has to say.
The Phantom Thieves entered his palace (Dorsia) and stole his treasure.
I always thought he stopped because he got distracted by the phone message
She was the only real potential victim... All the other ones were in his head ...
He seemed quite confused upon meeting someone who wasn't an NPC
Slight smirk when he says, "hurt you". Getting ONISION vibes
No change of heart the phone just ruined his murder
in the book he sees a life with her and cares for her
The phone call knocked his "momentum" off and saved her life. If she stayed he would have killed her. It wasn't empathy that he was feeling. It was just a temporary state of mental sobriety from the awful blood lust that many psychopaths and serial killers describe. Sort of like how some people need a lot of foreplay before the real action begins, except the call from his girlfriend ruined the moment for himself. There are several accounts of real serial killers picking up girls hitchhiking or around women in vulnerable situations and for whatever reason they help them instead of killing them like they do the rest. Their state of mind shifted that night or something about the potential victim took them out of their typical blood lust state of mind. This scene is a similar situation, except for Patrick it was his girlfriends voice, it probably depresses him to hear her voice because she reminds him of how empty and shallow his real relationship is with her. It spoiled the fun for him and he's left to sit and reflect in a state of nihilistic introspection at his hollow life.
God what a beautiful scene
In the novel, he says Jean *"who is in love with me and who I will probably end up marrying.”* I think though it's because she is the only person in the story that truly cares about him.
She clearly wanted him. The jealousy and insecurity she might feel from the phone call is enough for him I think.
If the Joker and Batman had a child.. it would be Patrick
I think that he wasn’t in the mood to kill anyone after the phone call he received, but idk.
If she only knew at that moment how close she was to never taking another one of his phone calls
He's such a good character probably the most depth I've ever seen
I think its more along the lines of, the phone call ruined the mood rather than caring for her. Maybe he was worried about getting caught since reality hit with the phone call that his whereabouts at the time were known. idk just cant really see caring coming into it with him. "meaningful" relationship for him is murdering.
You're thinking about it too much. It's hard to find a good secretary
Why is no one talking about how hilarious it is for him to say he wants a meaningful relationship with someone special while holding a nail gun to her head
He felt empathetic while targeting her with the nail gun
I think its because he knew she cared for him & he himself wanted her for her genuiness as compared to the others. But as soon as his fiance called, you can see his sadness realization that he couldnt be with her & chose to conform to the "yuppie" life style.
It was just the phone call, nothing else
i believe the theory that he actually didnt kill anyone and hes just severely mentally ill with major psychotic episodes.
It isn’t her that changed him. He’s a psycho. He killed and innocent dog for gods sake. She ain’t special. He was just caught off guard
Back when the voice answering machine would snitch you out
Anybody else disturbed by the fact the air nailer isnt hooked up to a compressor!?
Working with her, he sees a small part of her humanity.
Throughout the movie, remnants of Patrick's humanity peak through his facade
Thx TH-cam shorts. I just watched this movie again
Took me a long time growing up understanding why it seemed like lots of women were attracted to the most dangerous guys, and it's not because they're actually attracted to them a dangerous guy that will fuck up your life and the guy that's dangerous to anybody that will try to fuck with you look very similar the one that will fuck you up just as much as the people that try to mess with you are just a little bit more outgoing or examples of good ones are very far and in between so a lot of times you get mixed up. I'm still trying to figure out what is the male equivalent of this
It’s just me Casper 😂
He was judging her every action studying her wanting to know if she was like all the others who were soulless and weren't special but was a carbon copy of a copy.