Did Patrick Bateman Actually Kill Anyone In American Psycho? | Ending Explained
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- Patrick Bateman goes on a murderous rampage in American Psycho, but his unstable mental state casts doubt on whether he actually killed someone. Patrick Bateman may not have killed anyone in American Psycho because certain plot points make no sense if we were to assume that Bateman killed anybody. After meeting with a lawyer, Bateman discovers that Paul Allen is apparently alive and well, casting doubt on all his previous murders.
So, did Patrick Bateman actually kill someone? We piece together the evidence in this video.
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The guy saying he just had dinner with paul allen is part of that point that no one can tell these people apart because they're npcs
Thanks bro! This is the point I've been looking for and agree with the most
I was going to comment this exact thing! I bet he had dinner with someone he thought was Paul, but wasn't
I think that the dinner thing was moreso Patrick's lawyers trying to cover-up for their *incredibly silly and deranged* client (Patrick) but that's just me.
Naw they just see each other as Valentino suits and Oliver people glasses. It's a faceless society. The only thing the aristocrats notice is shallow vanity. Remember how Paul Allen doesn't even know he's having dinner with Patrick Bateman? @@brakorinspaceo81
@@brakorinspaceo81 You think that loose a cannon can be covered-up, do you? No one does the shit that he supposedly did and gets away with it.
The director and writer both stated that it bothers them when people assume Patrick didn't kill anybody.
It's clear the realtor lady knows that Patrick killed those people, but would rather just cover it up and sell the apartment.
I wouldn't clean up a MESS LIKE THAT. That's the real American psycho 🤪
All those people he killed if he really killed them had families and will eventually be found. Don't tie me with accessory to murder even if you're as good looking as Patrick bateman
It’s not clear at all.The point of the book is to keep you guessing.Thats what makes it clever.The movie is a joke compared to the book
she wanted to leave it up to the watcher's interpretation but she went too far on the "he didnt kill anyone side"
The entire point of the movie is lost if you assume he didn't kill anyone. The point of the entire book and move is that even when a sadistic and serial killer tries to confess his crimes and ask for redemption, the twisted world of power and money of narcissistic upper society that he inhabits, will cover up his crimes and deny him any catharsis, and think of him as a joke and brush him off. The conversation with his lawyer sums this up. The hallucinations with the ATM machine and the police chase show his own internal logical consistency and sanity breaking down, not that everything he's done is entirely imaginary. Although that is what causes most people to believe that everything has been completely fabricated, It's not the case. He clearly murders the homeless man, and almost goes through with murdering Jean.
It’s just a fun conversation to have. They should be happy people like to discuss and debate this stuff in groups of friends long after seeing the film multiple times.
I don’t know. I think Paul Allen did die, think about, lawyers are meant to give alibis, so them saying they saw and even ate dinner with him in a completely different country is definitely suspicious but not too un realistic. In my opinion I think the lawyer was lying to protect Patrick’s image, and the apartment lady cleaned up the place, she knew it was Patrick who killed and just told him to leave because she wanted to keep it a secret so she could sell the apartment. That or the father (the one ”who practically owns the company” aka bateman’s father) may have paid some people off.
The Lawyer and Paul are the psychological battle in his head. Ultimately the whole movie is a psychological portrayal of a psychological type that seems to be a combo of a few serial killers. There really is nobody. It’s like this is what a serial killer’s mind may look like from the inside. Bateman wants to suppress or “kill” Paul which is his inferiority complex. The lawyer is the rational part of Bateman that says no Paul’s not dead. So his aspirations to be better can not be stopped or achieved. A Psycho trait of course is denial, suppression, compartmentalisation (returning video tapes)
He’s basically tormented from start to finish by his thoughts making him crazy. Again the portrayal of a crazy psyche not actual events. There’s some parallels with the likes of Bundy and other serial killers hence the reference in the movie I’d say.
They all look the same and mix up each others names. I think the lawyer THINKS he had dinner with Paul Allen.
This can't be true, the agent (apartment lady) who was trying to sell it didn't recognise Bateman asked if she was one of her customers, when he says no, she asks him a trick question to finally find out he is a complete stranger randomly walking in there. She only then asks him to leave and not come back. She also says Paul Allen doesn't live here, implying he *lives* somewhere else, not that he's dead and shes now selling the apartment for him.
It's also possible that Jared Leto wasn't actually Paul Allen.. he could've been somebody else that doesn't correct anybody that calls him Paul Allen the same way Bateman doesn't correct anybody when they call him Halberstram. So Patrick could've really killed whoever Jared Leto was and the lawyer had dinner with the real Paul Allen.
And when the guy takes Paul Allen's business card out of his jacket, it could've been a different business card than the one Jared Leto handed him.
@@Damidas but his business card say Paul Allen. Everyone else's correct names are on their business cards even when people get their names wrong verbally.
I'm almost 100% sure that he didn't kill anyone because of what I saw in the ending scene of the film. This brought me personal relief, not because I'm a fan of this actor, but because of the ordinary human feelings that no one actually died.
Harron stated, "One thing I think is a failure on my part is people keep coming out of the film thinking that it's all a dream, and I never intended that. All I wanted was to be ambiguous in the way that the book was. I think it's a failure of mine in the final scene because I just got the emphasis wrong."
Both filmmakers agree that the ending did happen in real life, and Bateman won't be prosecuted for his crimes based on his affluence and high-society status.
First the detective goes to Bateman's office and shows him the CD Bateman used when killed Paul Allen how did he know? 2 men entered the building but just one and a huge plastic bag exit the building somebody gave that information to the detective maybe the guy in the desk in the entrance of the bulding? That is the clue that tells me Bateman commited all the killings also when bateman is with the two girls he make her call to her drug dealer the girl says he is with paul allen AND GUESS WHAT THEY ARE IN ALLEN'S APARTMENT, Bateman deceived everyone with that, the big question here is WHY ARE THERE BODIES IN ALLEN'S APARTMENT? Did Patrick put the bodies there? The girl is selling the apartment and she sees Bateman looking in the closet looking for something she asks Bateman if he saw the ad on the times AND SHE SAYS THERE IS NO AD ON THE TIMES, she asked that question as a trap, she saw the bodies in the closet and Bateman was looking there she is looking Bateman as a suspect ALL THE F MISTERY IS OVER, Bateman is a serial killer and deceived everyone
You can have allusinations when you are on drugs the scene when he saw an ATM asking him to feed him with a cat it could be an allusination from drugs even the whole scene when he shoots at the police it could be a symptom of his sick mind of course he is mentally ill and he is having a mental breakdown for all his crimes when you are a serial killer you are mentally sick he imagined he was being chased by the police BECAUSE ALL THE KILLINGS HE MADE AND AT THE END HE CONFESSED EVERYTHING FOR THE SAME REASON HE CAN'T HANDLE THE BAGGAGE what i believe is that Bateman is the main suspect everyone knows that but also there is a doubt because all the bodies that were found in Allen's apartment the lawyer is just afraid of Bateman you can look it on his face he is eager to not speak with him HE WANTS TO LEAVE IMMEDIATELY if he has been his lawyer all the time why is he missidentifying him and he say he had dinner with Allen because he is seeing him unstable and wants to play along to leave
@@Crying-LightningThe end line really gives it away when he says it means nothing but there’s numerous clues that show the whole thing is merely just the portrayal of a psyche and that none of it is real. It’s conceptual.
@@Crying-Lightning Completely agree ! The ambiguity and crazyness of many scenes and the ending made me think of Bunuel or Fellini (the darker Fellini like "Toby Dammit" loosely based on Poe, in the film "Spirits of the Dead"), so to think the ending wants us to think "All right, this was all in his head, what a relief" is way too simple ! There are many possibilities because the film is after all seen from Bateman's point of view...
That was Paul Allen at Patrick’s apartment. That wasn’t Paul’s apartment
I always thought he never really became the serial killer until the end of the movie
in the book he didn't, in the movie he did, but his environment is such that he literally can't get himself arrested.
That makes no sense whatsoever lol
@@whitemamba0089yes it does.
I think the fact he didn't kill his secretary is pretty compelling. I think she was there, I think he intended to do it but when it came down to it he couldn't, because he'd never done it before. That could also be interpreted as a moment of genuine connection that gave him pause but I think it's clearer evidence for the delusion theory.
It's multiple personalities/schizophrenia/narcissist intellectual brilliance. "It was just my imagination, once again running away with me."
Patrick wants to be noticed in a world full of Valentino suits and Olivier peoples glasses. At least he has a slightly better haircut
Thought… what if that wasn’t Paul Allen that he k!led but someone that was mistaken for Paul Allen so he ran with it to get recognition that he wanted just like Bateman does with so called Paul. Meaning that later in the movie when the lawyer says that he had dinner with Paul, he really did have dinner with Paul, and that Batemen knew that inside knew that Paul went to London and he wanted the release of offing him?
It would actually be funny if he was just as guilty of mixing up the NPCs as everyone else in the film. You may have something there. Definitely a crime committed, the hallucination was the victim. Interesting thought, thank you!
She’s lying man how does someone read ‘feed me a stray cat' there’s no way you just see that it’s hallucination 💯
Bateman definitely suffer from psychosis but not everything in the film was a simply a figment of his imagination
@@dylandesa7682 oh yeah ofc
He absolutely killed people, but the circumstances, paranoia and absurdity, in most cases were in his head. Because of this, locations, events, etc were scrambled in his mind, which is what the viewer of the movie was experiencing. This is why, at large, he ends ups seemimg confused and inept. You're experiencing his self doubt, but because the world is so detached and apathetic, he egts away with the things he actually did. Also, he's on druga so the story is blown way out of proportion.
The bum he killed might have been the only real one
Yo don’t call him a bum! The poor dude died for no reason he was just trying to live
Anyone who's operated a chainsaw understands that you have to hold down the throttle trigger for it to cut. Anyone who ever used a nail gun knows it has to be connected to a very loud air compressor to work.
It's fiction it doesn't really matter for the movie or book
@@Bi6M4C Sure it does. If it were in his reality, these things wouldn't work, but since it's either his fantasy, or a hallucination things don't work as they would in his real life.
I have a nailgun. No compressor needed 😂 also have a chainsaw. Taped down the throttle 😂😂😂
Bateman wants to kill Allen all I hear is batman wants to kill joker
A) Hallucinated the whole thing
B) made it up in his head
My brother that’s basically the same fuckin thing 😂
If something is made up the person knows it's just fantasy. If someone hallucinates it, they think it's real.
Hallucinating and making it up in your head are two completely different things. If you hallucinate you think you're actually seeing it in front of you.
Yet I can make up a scenario in my head and never see it with my "eyes" or think its real.
@@jamesconroy7030 just because you think it’s real doesn’t mean it isn’t in your head. Therefore my point stands.
@@mastatema it’s still in YOUR head, because others can’t see what you’re seeing. Therefore, however real it is to YOU, it isn’t ACTUALLY real to the world.
Which means… say it together… it’s “made up in your head”. NOT rocket science.
@@tubfellow Hallucinations and fantasies are both in one's head, but if he made it up, he knows it's a fantasy.
I always thought it was all in his head simply because of some of the more ridiculous things like the ATM scene and blowing up the cop car. Also, the chainsaw drop scene because the chainsaw would immediately stop running when he took his finger off the trigger.
In the book the ending made me feel like he did something even if he didn't do it all 😮
I think that his hallucinations are part psychosis, part schizophrenia, and part substance abuse. I also think that Paul IS actually dead, and then Patrick realizes that feels good to him. He lets himself think and fantasize about it. There’s no way that he chased someone with a chainsaw and not 1 person noticed, and when the apartment is being sold there’s nothing there. There would be SOME issues and a headline. Paul is dead, and everyone is so generic that everyone mistakes someone else for him.
I think a lot of the cinematography implies that something is off, especially with the cat scene through the helicopter/office confession scene. One shot I love is his reflection in the Les Miserables poster, because he literally is miserable (on the nose but I love it).
I always thought that his farther had paid the detective to keep an eye on Patrick. Get his story straight. While his dad has ppl clean up his mess. That's why he's so messed up at the end. He wants to be held responsible (something he doesn't do the whole movie) he wants to be stopped. I feel ots been this way since he was a boy. His dad basically owns the company he works at. I always felt like his dad wanted him to be president one day.
He’s crazy for sure, the movie shows that either he’s a serial killer in a world where people just are too into themselves to notice anything going on around them or he’s fantasized all of it.
Most stories that turn out to be a dream have the same problem. In Wizard of Oz there can't really be a scene with the wicked witch secretly spying on Dorothy if the whole movie is all in her dream. However, in American Psycho Bateman is either in every scene, or at least narrating. He's always there.
Not only did he not kill anyone but he is everyone around him.
I think Patrick was hallucinating
1. I went with my girlfriend to NY a couple of years ago and even at night the city was packed with people. You CANNOT tell me that Patrick just shoots a woman and half of the the city hasn’t heard it.
2. I live in an apartment and I can hear everything my neighbors do (from doing the deed, to screaming, laughing and their dogs barking). It is impossible no one heard Patrick chasing the woman around with a chainsaw without the police being there within 5 minutes
3. The scene where Patrick shoots at the car with a gun and it just explodes is a dead give away that he’s hallucinating everything. He’s like a serial killer wanna be who has those fantasies on his head but that he can’t just let out.
I personally believe Paul Allen is alive and Patrick just fantasized about killing him until his mind deteriorated to the point where he doesn’t know what’s real and what’s just his imagination
100% correct. I lived in NY and worked in this world at the time. A prominent banker just "disappearing" would have been huge news. As would someone murdering a woman dropping a chainsaw down a stairwell, as if that could happen in real life anyway. In the story, a real estate agent helps remove a bunch of bodies, to get a few thousand dollars commission? Really? Anyway, in real life, if someone goes missing, only a court could sanction a sale of the apartment, which typically wouldn't happen until at least a few years had passed. Bateman was just a weak loser who fantasized about getting revenge on all the people who made him feel bad, and all the gore was in his imagination. His subconscious invented characters like the real estate agent and the detective to explain why these events weren't all over the news (remember the detective says "the family wants this kept quiet").
@@daleviker5884 At the end of the movie, Patrick talks to a very creepy and strange older woman, I think she was a product of his imagination. Basically a part of his mind telling him this isn´t real. If someone found a bunch of bodies in an apartment it would be a HUGE deal and the city would have police everywhere and making investigations. Patrick would be in jail, there´s no way he wouldn´t be. This movie was Patrick´s mind fantasizing about sick and horrific stuff and then he got so lost in his fantasies that he didn´t know what was real and what was not. Remember Jean? the blonde lady that had a thing for Patrick who he aimed a nail gun at and then spared? there is NO WAY that she wwouldn´t report him to the police, I don´t care how much she was crushing on him. Having a nail gun aimed at the back of your head is not something that you can just let go, she would´ve reported him. I think she was also a product of his imagination, like the girl Patrick desired to have that he knew he would never have.
I honestly think the director and writer get a kick out of the confusion caused by this.
The director said everything you see happens so. Think other things 😂
@@sixthwizard2744 When the book came out 99% of people who read it concluded that it was all in his mind, and the writer said it is whatever you want to think. The movie was faithful to the book in giving one hint after another that it was all in his head. But during the marketing, the studios told the writer and director to say that it happened, because slasher films sell lots of tickets but psychological dark comedies don't. The writer and director changed their tune for $$$$.
Baitman can drop a chainsaw and kill somebody but Batman can
Can't
I've not watched this movie but I did see all the killing scenes and the moment he killed someone the entire cinematography changes, he becomes too animated almost like too high on some substance to actually kill someone, it doesn't feel real or even if it were atleast it didn't happen that way.
Bateman IS Paul Allen imo,thats what i got from the movie,they were in Paul's house,yet Bateman moved like he lived there,one side of the coin is Merger& Aquisitions while the other side is Murder&Executions,not to mention how at Paul's house the medicine bottle says Patrick Bateman on it
Paul Verhoven should have directed this film... with all the most gruesome scenes from the book in the film... The homeless guy scene in the book is what creeped me out the most... Torturing a defenceless old bum after offering to help him... The rat scene is probably unfilmable tbh... That was ott torture porn for shock value to readers
I think the apartment building cleaned up that apartment amd hid the murders that took place there because they wanted to rent that prime location and make that money.
After seeing it so many times there were several hints that what he did was real. Like when he dragged Paul's body through the building lobby you see him leave a noticeable trail of blood, yet when he's getting ready to load up the taxi right after with the supposed body, if you look back into the lobby behind him the floors perfectly clean. This wasn't a movie mistake, but meant to show it wasn't happening as Patrick thought it was.
He was marcus not batman!
My take was that he was actually killing people but that people didn't notice because of his social status. Like when he goes to Paul Allen's apartment and it looks like it's being renovated. The way the realtor looked at him and dismissed him, I was just thinking she was in on his "proclivities" and she/they cleaned the apartment up and made it look like a renovation, because he was connected. I guess this is what I get for watching a movie like this as a poor kid. XD
Bro literally just had textbook psychosis
This video was uploaded in 2023 and there was a Philosoraptor meme and other memes from circa 2011?
if he "didnt kill anyone" the whole point of the book, the movie, its criticism of society, isnt there.
and i guess we cant really know if it happened or not, even when the creators tells you it did, its all up in the air
I think everyone was defending and covering up batemans crimes. Maybe they were payed off by the company or his father
where is there ANYTHING that establishes this as even an idea. SDFU
@@gorillaking7486 Yep, plenty of people are just so envious of anyone successful that they want to convince themselves that successful people can literally get away with multiple murders. As if. According to them, the extremely rich Paul Allen gets murdered, but Patrick's father just gives his extremely rich family some money to ignore it. It is beyond stupid.
Fun fact: the rules of attraction james vanderbeek character is Bateman's younger bro.
Interesting that they use footage of the Shining. It's also very likely that all the murder in the Shining isn't real, but just in Jack's mind as he's writing his horror book.
This video: Did bateman kill anyone?, lol i dunno.
So does the book make it clear for any one kill!?
2:48 who's apartment were they in??
How to make a suspense thriller?
Answer: confuse audience
True narcissism movie you never know what the hell happened it’s all just smoke and mirrors
Option E:
Rich apartments have good sound isolation.
The director has stated that everything you see, happens. So… new title for video?
The writer and director just said what Hollywood told them to say. The writer told a very different story when the book was published, and the director made the film consistent with the book (ie, all in his head.) But subsequently they went along with what Hollywood marketing told them was the best way to generate $$$$$$. Slasher films are popular. Psychological satires aren't.
Bateman has a sort of revelation in the whole sequence leading up to him calling his lawyer. "Feed me a stray cat" is obviously not real. Neither does it seem plausible that an extremely meticulous and careful person like Bateman would pull a gun on the street to kill a woman when all he technically did was holding a cat. The real kicker is during the escape when the two police cars corner him. He starts shooting, gets all 4-5 officers AND both cars explode in a fireball and he doesn't get a scratch himself. Bateman looking down on his hand gun in disbelief clearly thinking "That can't be right?!" EDIT: I paused and wrote this halfway through the video only to start it again to see the narrator going through exactly the same thing already. Oh well,,, can't win every time.
Yes he’s a killer. I wish they had put the part in the book where a cab driver holds him at gun point and steals his Rolex and says I know what you did . Bateman asks him why didn’t you call the police and the guy says there was no reward. I can’t say if some of those murders were visual hallucinations or not but he definitely killed people.
Why would there even be a chainsaw in a high rise apartment in a major city 😂
I think he did kill Paul Allen, but the characters just cant tell, because they are too individualistic and superfluous. On the other hand, I dont think he killed everyone as depicted in the screenplay. The movie is constantly bouncing between reality and fantasy. Not knowing which is which was purposeful, because it's a satirical movie.
Even the chainsaw murder, absurd as it is, could mean that Patrick takes advantage of his neibhours' extreme naive condition to do whatever he wants. I mean, this is not actually credible, but just to think of it as a possibility is kinda funny in a satirical way
Great break down of this movie and this question of this movie in particular. I think it was all his imagination.
@aeoneditingservice Where was it confirmed?
no @VeganTotalitarianDictator
wrong, not even the author knows it, 2014 "WTF with Marc Maron" episode @VeganTotalitarianDictator
First the detective goes to Bateman's office and shows him the CD Bateman used when killed Paul Allen how did he know? 2 men entered the building but just one and a huge plastic bag exit the building somebody gave that information to the detective maybe the guy in the desk in the entrance of the bulding? That is the clue that tells me Bateman commited all the killings also when bateman is with the two girls he make her call to her drug dealer the girl says he is with paul allen AND GUESS WHAT THEY ARE IN ALLEN'S APARTMENT, Bateman deceived everyone with that, the big question here is WHY ARE THERE BODIES IN ALLEN'S APARTMENT? Did Patrick put the bodies there? The girl is selling the apartment and she sees Bateman looking in the closet looking for something she asks Bateman if he saw the ad on the times AND SHE SAYS THERE IS NO AD ON THE TIMES, she asked that question as a trap, she saw the bodies in the closet and Bateman was looking there she is looking Bateman as a suspect ALL THE F MISTERY IS OVER, Bateman is a serial killer and deceived everyone
You can have allusinations when you are on drugs the scene when he saw an ATM asking him to feed him with a cat it could be an allusination from drugs even the whole scene when he shoots at the police it could be a symptom of his sick mind of course he is mentally ill and he is having a mental breakdown for all his crimes when you are a serial killer you are mentally sick he imagined he was being chased by the police BECAUSE ALL THE KILLINGS HE MADE AND AT THE END HE CONFESSED EVERYTHING FOR THE SAME REASON HE CAN'T HANDLE THE BAGGAGE what i believe is that Bateman is the main suspect everyone knows that but also there is a doubt because all the bodies that were found in Allen's apartment the lawyer is just afraid of Bateman you can look it on his face he is eager to not speak with him HE WANTS TO LEAVE IMMEDIATELY if he has been his lawyer all the time why is he missidentifying him and he say he had dinner with Allen because he is seeing him unstable and wants to play along to leave
I was gifted this movie several decades ago for Christmas............and enjoyed it very much..........I have filed it in the section with my other favorites like "eyes wide shut , the ninth gate , psycho , the shining , and dressed to kill to name a few...........Patrick is considered a loser and a dork 😢from most that were more successful than himself ( like Paul Allen and Pat 's lawyer at the end ) ............which enraged him .......then there was the medication ( riddle Lynn .....I bet ) ........as much as he confessies throughout the movie makes it obvious no one cares because they are to caught up in the life of self indulgence to take him seriously..........thee attention to detail when Patrick takes good care of himself makes it confusing that he would even attempt to commit murders in a dead guys place and name with a sleuth on the trail that paid just as much attention to detail if not more ( that would have been dumb af)..........the way he answered questions like he was so intelligent 🤓...........but actually...........never quite seen doing a stread of work when at work ( thanks 👍 for the gravy position dad )( hunter Biden.......lol )...........Patrick definitely had a condition that needed constant treatment or ELSE......Period !!!!!!!..........I am also thinking 🤔 thorizine for being by polar instead...........but there are killings that were impossible...........like the prostitutes and no body hearing a thing and the feed me a cat from the atm police car old lady blow up scene ( all figments of - .....)....... But I do think he could have kill some of them..........maybe even Paul Allen........with his lawyer not having a very good memory and all......calling his Davis and what not 🚫.........and there's the detective who was hired by Allen's girl right.........also ...... making mention of a mistaken identity from notes ( guess it was second nature to confuse identities with that yuppy croud and era )...........then theres the gay thingy and the video tape returns.......Pat was a porn addict ( 27.......oh yeah.......those were the hot years........lol..........everyone was obsessed with experimenting at that time )..........if the maker of the movie were to make that sort of movie 2day..........there would be transgenderism all over it..........( Just another sign of these constantly changing times 😮😢 )..........fun flick..........but all the villains in that 🍿 movie section were a bit disturbed 😳...........some more that others of course...........never really found a reason to chase this masterpiece into part two........... didn't really get a good buzz from the reviews there of........some things are just better off left alone i guess. ( However......I did see where there is a new trailer for 2025.......
might have to get some corn 🌽 and check that out .........some of these movie makers have a pretty vivid imagination 4sure..... lol........mout )..... ✌️ 🕊️
Here is the correct answer to the question "Did he really do all that? Or was it all just in his Head?"..... IT DOES NOT MATTER.
What difference will it make if he did really commit those murders or not? He is still insane either way.
More importantly, no matter how much he confesses his crime, people never take him seriously. And even if he does chop body parts in front of a few people, they will just find an excuse to look the other way. Like that real estate lady.
Because people in a capitalist society has been so materialistic, superficial, greedy, immoral, and most of all desensitized, they would not even notice that the person they are conversing with is a serial killer imagining what their intestines look like on a stick.
That's director's mistake. I think it feels like Bateman had psychosis and killed nobody. The movie feels not open ended in any way. The scene with his lawyer should be removed or they should have made it more suspicious. Unfortunately, it definitely feels like all a dream in Bateman's head.
So confusing…makes me wanna see it again, it doesn’t seem to me plausible that he really killed anyone
If you watch the initial Paul Allen intro scene/ business card scene you see that there are two Paul Allen’s, the one played by Jared Leto and another one who is the final coworker to show his card only after Bateman asks him to
Nah bro the real Paul gives him the card earlier in the scene
"Christie" is escaping in the middle of the night though. People are asleep and don't have time to open their doors (probably wouldn't like to in New York in the 80s either). That's enough to count on the "real" side. An iconic Bateman in nothing but sneakers and chainsaw running around, dripping blood everywhere and screaming for then to get Christie with the saw, and that happening so he has time to clean it up fully without anyone noticing,, well, that certainly goes to the "not real" side.
idk if you noticed this as well but on that building, only his light would be on.
Paul Allen' apartment building would have had 24/7 doormen. You don't get into those buildings if they don't know you. Even more so given that Paul Allen had gone missing, such that his family and fiancée were all over it. They and the detective would have closely quizzed the doormen to see if they had noticed anything. But we are expected to believe that a week after he had gone missing, the doormen wouldn't bat an eyelid at someone they didn't know just turning up with two females then leaving a few hours later without the females and carrying a suitcase? Gimme a break. Not to mention the little matter of someone screaming and a chainsaw dropping down the stairwell? The whole storyline is so ridiculous that it can ONLY be interpreted as a fantasy in Bateman's mind. Not one event in this book would be remotely plausible if it was supposed to have been real. The author was able to write all this cartoon nonsense for the specific reason that it was all imaginary.
1:52 who the heck confuses Patrick Bateman for Paul Allen? Who?
Amazing but I am confused
This movie can only work with Bale, other than that the movie is a mind *uck … but I think it says a lot of the book
Is it possible Bateman was in a mental hospital the whole time?
I think he imagined it all and it was all in that book his assistant found . Or cos his dad was the head of the company he covered it up .
I think the safest awnser is probably the correct one. It is definaitly lazy to pick both sides but i dont think patrick fully knows who he is. There definairly is evil in patrick but to your point nobody cares that he is losing it one way or another
it was all in his head.... in the sketches and as he walked around, sat in his car, at his home, etc.
you really think a human can drop a running chainsaw onto a person perfectly from a height?
do automated teller machines really say ‘feed me a stray cat' ?
the neighbors never hear anything or call the cops?
the apartment showing no violence and being in perfect shape to 'give a showing to a potential tenant' gives it away as well (The woman just acts scared because he is acting strange)
lastly, in the director interview she ADMITS IT by saying "didnt want to give the plot away..." and how she wanted it to be more unclear.
great movie though. nice analysis here too!
(sorry, after finishing the vid I see you mentioned a couple of these heh)
It’s quite possible to mix people up , I’ve done that a few times after the event
We just want to know the batemen skincare and gym routine
Don't touch the Rolex!
If you read the original book I personally belived he killed some and hallucinated some.
If you havent read the book, do it.
I think the movie was supposed to be more over the top and comedic than it was to be accurate enough to represent the source material. Just read the damn thing it won't bite.😂 Bale did an AMAZING job portraying the main lead.
Does the book offer any different insight?
Yes! The book is extremely graphic,XXX scenes,violent,gratuitous,sadistic torture.The movie doesn’t compare.Not even close
I just watched the movie, never seen or heard there was a book behind it. The movie conveyed something entirely different to me. I believe that Patrick is a schizophrenic narcissist off his medication. Being the son of a well off personnel therefore having a job via nepotism where he obviously has no skills for his "career". He just wants to fit in. He fabricates dislusion in his imagination both internally and externally. Externally with his girl friend and friends trying to portray an image of himself towards higher esteem... false image. Then internally by material wealth and shallow appearance. Mundane with false images I believe he starts to dwell in his darkest desires. Humans often has that flaw.... imagination that should not appear but dark thoughts still do. I.E example, dark thoughts of when you're on a plane and a baby cry and you ponder what if I threw the baby out the emergency door. Thoughts that are too dark but you would often have for no apparent reason. Patrick constantly dwelled in it. Evidence of his first schizophrenic episode was at the club when he called the bartender a bitch in the mirror. The movie did a great job masking it because towards us the audience, we simply assumed the music was too loud for her to hear. But the mirror was a dividing point between his reality and his fantasy. A great example of why I assume most of the dark imagination was in his head was due to the book at the end where jean reads it, in addition to the pill bottle you find in 2 scenes one in the bathroom with his name on it and another during the phone booth scene. Notice how Jean was only sad in the end where he said to stop sounding so sad all the time, but in the beginning of the movie, he insults her and she is kinda unfazed. My belief is that it never happened, he never said those things.
What about the ending with the apartment lady and Paul Allen's place? it was left ambiguous for a reason. However I simply believe he imagined that room and never been there and just wondered on the floor during renovations. Maybe door was left open and he just wondered while it was left empty for the day. Like a construction site and it's an off day for people. He would just fabricate more delusion in his head. Maybe he never went to dinner and just wandered around. People are saying that in the books the higher society are the psycopath that would cover each other etc and blah blah blah, but I truly believe the ending with the lawyer scene just confirms that nothing ever happened. Maybe Patrick just listens to music and get lost in his own world. His world is a mental illness that descends over time.
Also wasn't it funny that Patrick ate the pills and reality started to kick back in. The movie at the mid point feels like a psychotic moment, not cohesive, kinda random. It felt like it was the climax to a plot in storytelling, but it felt like more of a unhinged pace like a offbeat.
My theory is all over the place. I should be asleep but my insomia hit me and I decided to watch this movie after seeing youtube short. Great film, could get a major huge analysis on this from film direction to story. Even the title is thought provoking. "American Psycho" - the concept of what does it mean to be psycho? is it to be a psychopath? or to have a psychotic mental break? two words that look the same but they are entirely different. For psychotic is, "relating to, denoting, or affected with a psychosis" by definition word for word and psychosis is, "a severe mental disorder in which thought and emotions are so impaired that contact is lost with external reality. psycho is, "an unstable and aggressive person" but the movie portray Patrick has someone who is like a psychopath, "a person affected by chronic mental disorder with abnormal or violent social behavior". I.E example). When Patrick and Jean was talking and all of the sudden his just randomly talks about Ted Bundy a known psychopath. Name drops in film are to draw parrells for the audience.
K I stop now. Theory too big, I type too much. GGWP. Gnite all. But before I leave.... I have one more thing to say.
"Feed me stray cat"
I'm the only person in the world in the public who actually knows the truth about this film.
50% think the killings didn't happen, 50% think the real estate agent cleaned up the murders.
The killings did happen and the real estate cleaning it up for property value is a good guess, but a total joke of an attempt when you know the truth.
i liked the video keep it up !
Bateman was that drunk homeless
Hes going insane, yet still is a killer. I can explain why if you doubt it
Please expand
Average ocd experience
A horror comedy 🎭
I havent finished the video but I was always under the impression that during the chainsaw scene, that was a building that he specifically chose because it was vacant? Just a thought
If u r serious with this video then u didn't understand the movie.
Are all murders Patrick hallucination or are he murder all I disappointed movie not open that much like bret easton ellis in book
well if you don't want people think bateman didn't do it why make suck a wierd ending.
The investigator killed Paul
PLZ CAN ANYONE TELL ME
WAS THE DOG MURDERED OR NOT?
I think that part was true. It wasn't fantastical like some of the other kills. 😢
"No-one knows and nobody cares" - The actual Narrator of the video 😂😂😂 save 5 minutes of your life...
I can't accuse this movie of mirroring the movie A Beautiful Mind, but can not rule it out. A beautiful Mind is about a true story of a man ruled by his own mental illness based on a true story of Professor John Nash. The movie came out in the year 2000, this movie 2001. If, I had time, I would research which script was written first. However, I do not rule it out. Watch both movies and see if you walk away feeling there is a connection.
FYI, there's a movie called 'American Psycho 2', and it starts after his murder spree. So yeah, he did kill those people; the critic is that, well, nobody did care about that. Like in the scene in which Bateman is confused by Paul as being someone else, which he sees as an insult but actually almost everyone in the room look basically the same, the critic is about how shallow and detached the lives of those people are. Not being able to get a reservation into a slightly better restaurant, or a slightly better card made him kill for the first time. Its because they were so shallow that they did became almost equal in everything, as they were following the latest trend; thus the minor details were setting their hierarchy. By perceiving himself as falling behind due to those details, he snaps and starts to kill people to relieve his anger, as in general to Bateman those people's lives had virtually no value except making him feel superior to someone else again.
We are all Bateman.
WHHHHHAAAAATTTTTTTT??? You got so many things wrong. Sooooo wrong. Did ya even watch the movie?
Pseuds think
>this movie is pointless glorification of violence, its all in his head according to my le heccin reddit theory
Smart people think
>this is peak black comedy and a scathing social commentary on the vapidity modern socialites. additionally it is a faithful, albeit abridged, adaptation of the classic novel. a masterpiece.
The Gotham pun lol
Paul Allen was never gonna be a varsity athlete
Bateman IS Allen, Allen is Bateman