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- =Anime: Frieren Beyond Journey's End (Episode 21)
=Scene: Frieren vs Danken
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I know that everyone comments on how Frieren and Fern both only use normal attack and defense magic, but I think everyone's missing out on how the two of them actually have very different styles. Sure, both of them wait a bit to assess their opponent, but Fern is the epitome of "if I hit it enough, it'll break" while Frieren is more "I only need one shot if it's the right shot."
Correction, they only use normal attacks to fight other human mages. We’ll see different stuff in the future
@@Oklahomie95yes we did
We now see that the reason for this difference is that Fern has a talent of casting spells insanely quickly, so she just can overwhelm her opponents with Zoltraaks.
machine gun vs artillery
@@Alex_Fishman zoltraak is not a weak spell, either. yes, it's basic offensive magic, but it scales. it's as strong as you can manage casting it.
_Frieren a legendary mage, won against the demon king_
Denken: "Nah, I'd win"
frieren has lost 11 times, including i think 6 to humans. Its not impossible she loses.
@@valzor2562 she'd probably loss only to geniuses and weirdo like fern and ubel, or even to someone wirbel who has binding magic
Spoiler
Denken's master did beat Frieren so badly he didn't even remember having fought her when they meet later, so...
@@mr.commonsense6645 Denken himself is a genius and the second most influencial sorcerer in the world so
@@somethingelse4282 not as much as fern and not as much as lernen who's below fern.. spoiler ahead..
Lerner could see that frieren is suppressing her mana but couldn't see through serie suppression but fern can..
people forgot that she fought the demon king, won and is still alive. What do they expect really?
Well she became a myth and only few people know of her at this point, 😅
it's foreshadowed that the fight vs demon king might not have been brute force match, frieren's main strengths are abnormally high mana, mana concealment, 100% hate towards demons, dirty tactics, "magic missile" spam and abusing the weak points of defensive barriers
for all we know she yolo death beamed demon king in the back while they were gloating or something
Hard to say I'm not sure the human mages have any knowledge at all about her except that she was in the party of heroes.
@Jinnai89 she's good at dismantling complex spells too. She was the one who helped greatly in the study of zoltraak, destroyed serie's barrier and one more future event not shown in anime
@Jinnai89 SPOILER WARNING
what about during the second stage of first class mage exam, when Frieren and Fern fought against Frieren's doppelganger? Fern got blasted against the wall by Frieren's doppleganger, and she said something along the lines of "So this is the pinnacle of magic. Incredible, Frieren-sama", which Frieren then commented on how it has been 80 years since she had to resort to that. I'd assume that Frieren used that when she fought the demon king?
I like how in this universe, the mages aren't just weak bodies who can use magic but also use their staff's as weapons and charge right in to deliver magic or physical attacks.
Well in the same episode Denken and the other dude straight up square up against some other dudes hand to hand lmao
Considering the size of those staves, they would do a lot of damage if they were used to club someone in the head. Not to mention some have blade tipped staves like Ubel and Wirbel
a lot of fantasy RPGs back in the day (and I guess until now) actually do that!!! Which makes sense, since if you have a limited pool of mana then you wouldn't really use magic as loosely as you would. + their staffs/staves are usually so big.
magic in this anime is done wonderfully.
@@MahiMahi-yu5jo Yeah the staffs are interesting in this universe as some use them and others use smaller wand like objects. It seems that in some cases as well, they are not physically with the mage until the mage calls upon them from, hell if I know, some pocket dimension maybe. It makes me wonder the role of them and if they are truly needed for a mage to execute magic or they just serve as an extension of the mage to enhance power. This is a great fantasy world here, we will be going over many theories for years to come.
If you look closely in the beginning Frieren shot 1 Zoltraak beam to the side and then 7 beams simultaneously afterwards. That's a total of 8 beams shot. Denken blocks 1 right away, and then 6 chase after him afterwards which he also blocks. So that's 7. That means the one that flanked Denken at the end after all of his attacks was one of the beams Frieren shot in the very beginning. She did the same move as the super dead angle Zoltraak shot against the Sleep/Plant Monster with Sein. That's how she was able to surprise Denken and that momentary distraction was enough for her to close the distance and hit him point blank ending the fight right there.
Frieren knew what to do from the very beginning and executed her plan to perfection. I love the attention to detail and how subtle it was. They never gave us an explanation as to how Frieren did it but it's right there if you look close enough.
Underrated comment. That was great attention to detail on the animators' part 😍
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Oh man, good eye! Thank you.
God damn. Good spot...
Congrats! U figured it out.
Now after the EP 25 and 26 I finally see how much she actually held back here...
I was about to say that. She was probably just learning what he could do without revealing too much of her own power. She could have ended the fight when she wanted.
Remember that she taught Fern that all she needs to use to defeat the mages of this era are basic attack and defense magic.
@@VaguelyRowlet Is important to remember that the basic attack and defense are top tier spells.
Is just is the perfect starting point to learn magic.
Its never weak both of then...hell Mastery of both of then made Fern an absolute monster.
What i am saying Zoltraak is cool as hell.
@@arqueiroXD agreed
Another thing to remember is that Himmel got made at her for using so many flashy and far more devastating spells, so shes probs been only using basic spells since then... Ofcourse we dont know what spells she used against the Demon King.
Others: Mages, stay at the back and use AOE skills.
Frieren: *nukes Denken in the face*
HAHAHAHAHA!
Denken: I cast THIS PUNCH
@@daniv8865 *>Shin Shoryukens a dude
I love how Denken went from, "I'll crush her" to "This was practically a combat lesson for a trainee."
I just watched this ep. I don't know if he ever thought he could beat her. I think he was just keeping her occupied while his partner takes out Frieren's partners.
Spoiler:
In the later parts of the manga, we will get to know Denken and his master (the demon Macht). Besides, Denken turns out to be a real Goat
The way she gets pushed back by her final attack makes it look even more powerful, and reminds me of Megumin.
I think she created a shockwave by blocking her own spell and that's why she knocked back.
It gives the feeling of a shotgun, and it's cool as heck
1:27 Denken: LIGHT OF SABER!!
Spells having recoil is honestly a nice touch. Shows the spell having a tangible impact in force.
Probably cast a block spell while charging at him. Spell hit, and magic boom'd.
Those who says Denken is overconfident with saying gonna defeat Frieren. It's more about magis is visualisation, he needs to be able to think he can defeat her right from start or its an absolute impossible. Also Denken always think how to defeat the mage every first time they met (this can be see future in 3rd test with Serie)
(Very slight manga spoilers)
Not to mention the fact that, if I remember correctly, it was Frieren who inspired Denken to become a mage in the first place. He is _very_ aware of just how powerful she is - she's essentially his rolemodel, even if he only knew her from the stories told about her. She's a living legend to him.
yeah, visualization is 100% the key. even half thoughts would've made victory impossible. in magic, you have to fully commit even if means you look delusional.
"Do you really think there's a mage in this world greater than Serie??"
Out pops Frieren 5 seconds later
Techincally he's still right.. Frieren is somehow not greater than Serie
She mightve broken her Barrier, but she's nowhere close to Serie. Her knowledge is unlimitedly vast. And most importantly, shes a mage of war, Her offence is gonna be brutally stronger than her defence.
as Serie stated..Frieren lacks technique for someone her age..this is due to her honing her mana restraint to fool demons..
Age. What differentiates Serie and Frieren is age.
Plus Serie is fundamentally different from Freiren.
Serie is as far beyond Frieren as Frieren was beyond Aura
People in this comments section acting like Denken is surprised Frieren won. Denken KNEW who she is, but he HAS to win, he has a grave to visit. He's not about to just raise a white flag, especially not a man of his status, the royal court mage.
ISTG.
They have their minds corrupted(trained) by Shonen genre, thinking that fights are only for testament of strength and protecting the world.
I adore how Denken's first impression is just another arrogant old fool who's about to be put down, but when he gets more screentime it turns out he's wise, experienced, and _determined_ to visit that grave.
also visualisation is an important aspect of this magic system. if u could not at least visualise a success then losing is inevitable. arrogance/confidence is almost a necessity to be a powerful mage. Ubel comes to mind, if she thinks she can cut something she will, and that's why she can cut sense's hair but not average defence magic.
@@BoopaKingI definitely thought he was going to be an arrogant throwaway side character until he cast off his cloak and went in with his fists. Every time after that, when he would appear on screen, I was like, oh baby it's THE DENK!
Ignore the people asking for 60fps, don’t ruin the art
Fr, it should be a crime to shove animation through a frame interpolater and calling it 'improved'
wtf this was 30 fps??
I see it as just plain old disrespectful to the hours and hours of painstaking work that goes into it
@@baconofburger8784 Pretty much all cinema and anime is in 24fps. You don't notice because adding frames doesn't really add anything. On the contrary, when done poorly, as is usually done while trying to interpolate things into 60fps, it ends up looking a bit wrong. In games 60 is pretty much mandatory but that's only because of things like input lag and the aspect of interactivity itself
@@baconofburger8784This was between 12 to 24 fps as all of animation of quality.
12 fps is the lower limit that make a moovepent fluid and after 24 you dont see any major difference.
Pass the 24 mark and your animation will be so fluid it will look extremly bad and blank because it wont be able to attract your sight into what matter the most, making the anime sometimes completly unwatchable
It doesnt means you cant pass the 24 fps, but it means that 12 to 24fps is the best ratio for anime.
(Compared to video game which try to insert you YOURSELF into the world, animation try to show you a story. Hell even video game will drop artificially the framerate in cinematics by just butchering 2/3 of the transition frame)
What really make animation standing up is more about how well made it is crafted and not the actual fps
In fact one mahor technique to make a moment more impactfull is to lower the fps : with low fps your eye will stuck more in the moment with low fps, making it stand up more.
Think when you had lag in a game, but instead of ruining your fun the lag actually get on in a spectacular moment !
You can also animated thing with different fps : for exemple a character moovement could be at 24 to make it more fluid and less visible, but an attack he makes could be at 12 to show how powerfull that blow is.
Or to just give a totally different animation style like in spider verse. (The whole oscar winning moovie and its sequel are mainly in 12 fps btw)
The application and variation is fcking endless, animation got infinite potential
Dude changing well made anime into standarised 60fps anime is a sign of stupidity and ignorance
Just wait until Frieren spams the "see through your clothes" magic. I'm sure that's what ultimately brought down the demon king.
Nah, it was the blow kiss
Pretty sure it was the "Make Paper Airplanes Fly Better" Spell and the "Can't Bite Your Tongue While Talking" spell combo that took out the demon king.
Frieren: *The Strongest sorcerer in history*
*VS*
Denken: *The Strongest sorcerer available*
Uh no that’s definitely completely wrong
@@quasalviber9496i mean, denken is the strongest sorcerer available isnt it?
@@itzjp8559 Both are really strong, obviously. But Lernen, Serie's student just seems to be stronger than Denken as he was able to noticed Frieren's instability in her mana control as well as successfully injuring her, both of which are feats Denken was incapable of accomplishing. And for the strongest mage in history, Serie is quite obviously the one, seemingly rivaling or even stronger than the demon king
They don't know you are referencing jujutsu kaisen
Frieren is like the 3rd strongest charector who is ALIVE in her verse.
I really appreciate your channel, unlike many others you don't ruin the artwork by forcing in fake frames just to make it 60fps and you don't cut scenes up like you're having the biggest ADHD tweak of your life.
Usually they do it under the pretense that they will evade copyright claims and/or fool the algorithm, but that's a fallacy, if the algorithm wants it flags those videos and take them down, most publishers however don't give a flying fuck and don't do it unless you outright upload their whole episodes, industry as a whole has been very lenient when it comes to scenes only, so once again thank you and I wish all those other mongrels started doing the same, blocked so many channels that do this crap since they flood my recommended feed.
absolute facts my g
Yeah fuck those other channels
Spitting truths
Subbing to this channel and following your example.
I'm sick of the jump cuts and loud music, Let me see the clip so I can decide if I want to support the official release, That said where can I get the physical box set?
There are several series I'd have never watched if it hadn't been for TH-cam clips. I've always said videos like this are free advertising.
The Frieren Anime combat theme is titled Zoltreck. Qual must be happy that his magic is ao defining that combatants are litterly dancing to it.
I just want to see Serie go full power against someone. Just imagine how cool would that be.
To be fair, now that we look back on it there is literally only 2 mages in the entire series that have used more than like 2 spells in combat, and it's Denken and Frieren, not saying he ever had a chance but he's definitely not weak
I love that during this scene the Male Exam Examiner asks a rhetorical question where he thinks he knows the answer. "Do you really think someone's power can beat the sages?" then the show answers that dumbass question by playing the hype song motif and having Frieren emerge from the flames. 10/10
finally a video that isn't edited by a kid to annoy the hell out of anyone watching it.
Now Imagine if she had gone full out, and used the blow kiss move?
learning the basics will grant you the most power. I was surprised when they showed other types of magic I thought only the basics were there yet it shows how good Frieren is in teaching giving the basics and showing how strong it is.
I think its that most mages will become weaker trying to specialize in a magic type than if they just learned the "basics". Fern for example is the absolute best at mana concealment, that even the best mages can't track her while she's moving. That's also if they know to look for her.
@@Krab17 The basics mostly work because Frieren (and Fern) have an absolutely monstrous mana pool compared to basically every human mage. You see she uses more complex magic when fighting her clone. Regular mages are most likely better off specializing in other magic to take down an opponent as fast as possible (like Denken tries to do) rather than making every battle a mana pool battle.
the basics to everything are essential. fern is out there with tim duncan hitting bank shots from mid-range because it's nearly unblockable.
@@mikmikxxd basics and mana control are the escence of developing more mana capabilities, more control and flamme said that if you can show less mana than you have, you mostly will have the upper hand facing demons and other mages, fern has a very high control of mana, so the basics are better for her, because she need something simple to control better, if she used fancy spells she only would be wasting mana, so focusing in the basics (and the basics can kill a demon) fern and frieren does not need more fancy magic to fight, fern is too good with basics because is mostly what she trained since she was a child, that and his mana control.
When frieren fought her clone in the 2nd exam she used fancy and powerful spells because she was facing herself, an enemy with the same amount of mana, and the same battle experience, so she can not use the basics totally because she knew that she were going to fight back counter elements and the oponent have no problem using nuke spells, but as they said, the copy of frieren did not has full protection against the new version of zooltrak, that is why frieren said to fern to attack her with that attack, wich in the human magic era zooltrak was a simple and efective spell, frieren develop it to do more damage and even destroy demons, that is why the demon who was sealed figure the barriers against zooltrak need too much energy, and have some time to be deployed, but even that barrier could not stop big material attacks,because it will need more time to be deployed and more mana comsumption, that is why frieren said that she could not win against a big attack of the water girl that beat the earth guy, because they usually can not have a defense spell against those attacks.
1. Fern basically has 100/100 Sneak.
even frieren had no clue when Fern tailed her during fern's birthday. Linie only detected Fern at the last possible second but only cuz she activated a spell at Lugner.
2. She is even Faster than the last remaining great mage. she is incredibly Quick. she is FAST af
3. She has monstrous mana pool.
4. but most importantly she can hide her mana pool and make everyone understimate her which is the greatest advantage.
Conclusion: if you are up against Fern, it means you are already deadge
1:43 we now know how frieren did this move
"Do You Really Think Theres a Sorcerer Alive Thats Greater than Serie?"
Maestro:
DUN DUN DUN DUN
DUN DUN.
The way they both deflect their first attack with that mirror fast sequence was so damn cool, this is the animation style so many tried to repoduce but couldn't 🤤🥴👌
Bro should use his fist instead of magic against Frieren.
considering she just casually dodged all the attacks of the armor when dealing with Aura. it wont work like that
What a gentleman of you, I guess your mom taught you well how to treat a lady.
@@atrudokht I think chivalry is out of the window when facing an absolute monster like Frieren
@@atrudokhtequal rights = equal fights
@@romanshorif2330🤣🤣🤣🤣
Freiren was out of anyone league as an opponent, and Denken knew that yet he fought her. Thats admirable.
He knew that the amount of mana he had comparable to her's who's an elf was little. So decided to go all out from the beginning.
Frieren: And thats, my dear aprentice, how you beat up an old man
Fern: 👿
serie like sit in libary for thousand year when Frieren explore the world for thousand years
Serie was already insane when Frieren was just getting her real start.
not really, she stayed put for the vast majority of it, from when she presumably parted ways with Flamma to when Himmel comes to see her. the reason she's so powerful is because she's basically been training her raw mana reserves for that 1000 years
@@brendansoucy2220this isn't accurate with everything the manga has shown, but it is accurate with what the show has shown so far.
Serie suppressed mana is equal to frieren unsupressed mana
@@ObiwanNekody i can't speak for manga, I'm just going off the show
"That's my battle Toddler..." --Fern probably..
"Don't worry about Frieren. I will deal with her..."
"You sure..? You're not underestimating her?"
"Of course not! I am one of those analytical, insightful and intelligent arch types, remember?"
"That's great, Denken! So what's your plan?"
"Uh.. plan? I thought I'd just fight her normally and win with my superior magic..?"
"..."
1:14
“Do you really think there’s a mage in this world greater than Serie?”
With the build up of the music and the shot of Frieren bursting through the fire ITS SO COOL
you know someones strong when they spend the every fight using basic spells and still stomping the competition
Remember Denken is a Student of one of the seven sages of destruction demon, that Frieren herself wouldn't dare to fight it head on.
is this in future chapters in the manga?
Manga
@@hisokamorrow9867frieren kind of destroyed soltair tho. Who is on the same level as macht.
The problem is matchup, Freiren needed a countermeasure to Macht having an instakill spell and His immense physical strength combined with his ability to turn himself into gold for defense.@@Ilikefeatherymangoes
@@Ilikefeatherymangoes Compatibility matter. Macht only troublesome due to diagoldze spell. Magic in this world is rock-paper-scissors. Not typical powerscaling.
After seeing frieren fight her clone, it would have been crazier if she actually used other more complicated spells
She did, against the Nameless. Big spoiler talk tho.
Theyre talking about if she used them in this specific fight@@snuckel4
They should be thankful. They’re not demons. Or Frieren wouldn’t have gone easy on them
It's just another tuesday for Frieren
How they portrayed Frieren when she fights could easily be perceived as the villain, so badass.
Frieren is so old, she probably inspired Tsun Tzu, "do not interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake"
*I know the irl credit is different
Next episode (25) we will see the first time Frieren use different offensive magic
I really like the detail that last spell Denken used was literally the spell to hit weakspots of defense magic as we are told some episodes earlier when fighting for the first time with Serie clone. It shows that despite knowing that he is gonna loose he was to the end no out of options
Denken be strong at the "nah I'd win" department
Now next episode is the boss of the dungeon: A Perfect Replica
Denken’s comments on exhausting mana has a different vibe this week huh
Make it 12.42 fps.
Spoiler: hv just realized about the counter attack. It’s used to make her opponent focused on defense n stood still. Becoz Frieren couldnt detect mana at that slight second.
after this fight and frieren vs her-cloneSelf, we know frieren cutting the distance because she can not cast the zoltraak faster than fern, just imagine if fern can also cutting distance, fern would end any fight real fast
Doesn't mean Frieren can not protect herself and wait out her barrage with mana left to spare. During the fight we saw Frieren able to do that with Fern surprising her.
For someone second only to serie in term of raw power and probably better spell analysis than even serie she really is often underestimated
Not many in that age know her anymore. Only a couple few. Why Denken believed he would hold any candle however is questionable though since he knows who Frieren is and that Frieren fought his master 600 years ago and lost but given she fought and survived and how she was part of the "lets yolo the demon lord" group there was no way he could defeat her. And thats assuming he didnt know about Frieren facerolling Aura and Qual like its nothing (if he did its even more questionable)
I mean, in magic maybe, but i'd still argue maybe the other high elf monk guy would be stronger then her, just because he's way older.
denken my goat
Okay but she literally fought Denken, comfortable defeating him, all while analyzing the barrier to decide how to break it down
pretty sure she enjoyed the fight
Definition of "Made you look."
Love the Samurai Champloo ending.
Modern mages: *_spell goes burrrr_*
Legendary elf who was part of the heroes party and lived 1000 years prior: *_…Exodia...OBLIDERATE……no wait…was it KAMEMEMEHA….or was it….duck it!_*
Frieren Quality slice of life - violet evergarden and fighting scene - fate series.
make it 2 fps
Nah, 1 fps I wanna watch a PowerPoint.
@@cupcakewithatophat1131 Nah, make it 1 frame per HOUR. I wanna watch paint dry 😏
It's like Michael Jordan vs Bob from accounting play 1 on 1 basketball.
que pantuflas es eso de el final, todos los videos ahora lo tienen
Denken might have had a better chance at winning if he started a fist fight with Frieren.
Hey buddy, is your channel monetized by uploading anime videos as it is?
What's the name of the music in this? Can't find it anywhere.
It's not released yet. It will be released later this month.
Hi! It's released now. The ost's name is "Knife to the Throat" by Evan Call
@@FishyLiviaFanytastic Thanks, I was listening to it on the day it dropped!
Man, it’s sad seeing people trash talking Denken. It’s like they forgot about how magic works immediately after they explained it. You need to be able to visualize yourself defeating your opponent to even have a chance.
A “reality check” is paradoxical in the Frieren universe because magic is, at least in part, a self fulfilling prophecy. If you believe you cannot beat your opponent, then you will not be able to. And if you do believe you can, then you might. If both believe they can defeat their opponent, then it comes down to who can visualize it better. Frieren was better in that regard, but it’s not fair to say Denken was foolish for trying. Denken also tried to imagine beating Serie but he was unable to.
This the next one that will be removed by Sony?
getting big nanoha vibes from this
Man hit her with the DBZ barrage special. And just like in DBZ it didn't do shit.
You have to understand what you are dealing with boy! Being runt only brings your demise.
must suck not being the MC in a ln series
Bro did dumb thing
disagree this was a chad thing to do
I wonder what Serie's apprentice Lernen had for offense compated to Denken. Denken has a lot of firepower for Sense and Genau to comment on it but Frieren had trouble with Lernen.
I really find it funny that denken knew who frieren is and yet he still thinks he can beat the shit out of her like bruh you know that she defeated the demon king
SHE COULD HAVE HELD BACK
I just noticed that Frieren and Denken have somewhat similar staffs? Anyone else notice?
So I've seen a few of these clips and I gotta ask, is this just loli Overlord? Is there a point to these invincible all knowing power fantasy characters?
Truly a Saitama moment
This Anime is such a weird experience as some1 who speaks german.
Huh
@@friedhotwings all the names are german words, regular ass ones. Frieren means for example feeling cold or to freeze something. And Denken means thinking.
@@dogwithsunglasses4051 I’m aware
0:01 why does it looks like they’re just exchanging boom vine sound effects💀
Now, why did you have to put that thought in my head?
Because both of them are based.
Make it e^iπ fps
❤
❤️🔥
When a control deck pilot realizes he needs to switch to being the beatdown, but the better control deck already had three counterspells in hand
Do we see any other mages using a full spherical shield like Frieren does?
Fern does during her training.
They try not to use it as it sucks down more mana than smaller sections. Its just the aoe nature of denken’s attack here that made her use the sphere
Go frieren
1:15 all that to all but confirm that frieren is weaker :/
spoiler alert. denken defeated a strong demon in eldurado arc so he is also strong but ofcourse frieren is stronger. 😊
Only because he was gifted a direct counter spell by Serie. Otherwise he would’ve died instantly :)
@@friedhotwings Even without the curse. The Demon was roughly on Frieren's level.
Wanna know some really powerful spell
1. Pregnasus on zur bellos
2. Smallus ballarus
3. Premaculus ejacturus
Imagine knowing you're fighting her and saying such cringy things
Huh
@@friedhotwings "I'm going to settle this quickly"
Like, I felt super embarrassed he even thought that
@@RipleySawzen it’s a lot more complex than that, not cringe at all. Magic is a world of visual imagination. If you can’t see/imagine yourself winning in a mage duel, you’ve already lost. It’s important for mages to believe they can win a battle. It’s not unreasonable for Denken to assume he can settles things quickly because 1. Frieren is concealing her mana and 2. the flame tornado he used was a solid strategy that was meant to exhaust Frieren’s mana by forcing her to maintain a perfect defense sphere which she explained in ep 3, would consume all of a typical mages mana in seconds because of how much mana it consumes. This coupled with the fact that Frieren was concealing her mana, it makes perfect sense that Denken would believe that his flame tornado would’ve exhausted Frieren’s mana. Not cringe.
@@friedhotwings It's like walking up to Mike Tyson with a pocket knife and telling him he better prepare to meet his maker. Sure, you COULD shank him with that knife. There's a very slight possibility. But she's the one who helped kill the demon lord. She's also more like if Mike Tyson and Bruce Lee fused into one. It's absolutely ludicrous that he thought he could beat her, even for a minute.
Visualization is only half of the equation. You can visualize anything you want and it won't so squat if your opponent can also visualize defeating it. He should have saved his energy for an easier mark.
@@RipleySawzen yikes, my comment went completely over your head. Apparently you forgot that Frieren has lost to 11 mages with less mana than her in the past. But go off I guess. Don’t reply back to me ( I won’t read it), I don’t have time for blatant ignorance.
Make it 29.94 fps
Been contemplating to watch this but I hate stupidly OP characters unless its just a joke like one punch man.
Her personality is rather dull too, yet everybody is singing this show praises, even getting tattoos. Like what am I missing here
I mean she is far from stupidly op especially as the story goes on. and her personality is the show. a immortal dealing with the death of the people who she cared for and learning how to deal with it
@@mark1A100 are all elves in that world immortal? As in lord of the rings immortal? (Elves dont get old and sick but can be killed and get into fatal accidents)
She is OP in the Goku OP way. Like she'll never lose a fight we can see except for cases where they need the other characters to exist to save her. But this is just standard anime writing.
@genericscout5408 never lose a fight? Thats very op.
@@randomenvelope it’s called plot armor. Every story kind of works this way for the majority of the story, by definition being author’s pet makes you OP. The difference is Frieren is designed OP but isn’t merely given immortality for no reason.
Can anyone remember me why stark is needed at all again? with how OP mages are, non-mages seem little more than innefectual cannonfodder
Some monsters are highly resistant to magic and are therefore better countered by purely physical means, and having a meatshield makes it so that it's easier to keep your distance from your opponent.
Mages are weak against physical attacks, especially the defense magic they use. No matter how fast a mage can cast, a warrior will always be faster, and stronger. Compare Frieren's spells to Stark's Lightning Strike, Frieren needs a considerably long cast time, especially for spells like the blackhole while Stark is carving mountains with single strikes.
Manga spoilers:
A certain warrior completely overwhelms Stark and nearly kills Frieren, but he ultimately lets her live. Mages are great at launching powerful attacks, but are easily beat by agile, skilled warriors.
There are also greater demons that specialize in close combat, who, based on the prior info, are going to absolutely massacre any mage they encounter. Rivale the bloody god of war, who razed Stark's village, is probably unbeatable for any mage, since he was likely even stronger than Eisen.
There are also magic nullifying stones that can absorb all magic in an area. Rendering all mages useless. They haven't been a major factor in the manga, yet?
Holy fuck this is a stupid question
Wrong translation. I don't know who they hired for this sub but it is so far very disappointing and blatantly wrong sometimes.
Do people actually enjoy this circle jerk shows? The main characters always winning so easily is so boring
Because this is not battle shonen where fights and defeating powerful opponents are the most important part of the story
@Pika-no1qv doesn't need to be, but this pretty brand
@@riversidecrooks1921 this show literally take place in the timeline after frieren and her party had defeated the demon Lord. Her strength is at pinnacle of the setting, so narratively it doesn't make sense to have these human mages even come close to her in power. Normally that would be bad if this show is a coming of age battle shonen or if the show is about a journey to defeat some big bad, so the protagonists need to struggle to learn from their mistakes and become powerful enough to defeat the big bad at the end of the story. Frieren isn't like that the big bad/final boss/ demon king already defeated, this show doesn't even focused on actions/battles, it's more like slice of life/adventure that can even go for like 10 episodes without encountering a trouble. Her goal in the story is not to defeat some strong enemy but to understand her human companions.
@Pika-no1qv then it shouldn't have her fighting at all , it's so low stakes that it becomes pointless
@@riversidecrooks1921 how it's pointless when it is not even a important point of the show? Wtf are you talking about
Make it 60 fps
Never, please never slaughter Frieren, pity.
No, that sucks
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You, sir, have picked the wrong answer. Reflect on where your life went wrong to end up here.
wait... stuff actually happens? good lord this anime is a slog ~_~
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She did not beat the damn demon king solo, chill out with that response lol
He is trying to exhaust her mana?😅😅😅
No the opposite. He wants to go all out so the fight ends quickly. So he doesn't run out of mana.
Make it 60 fps
make it look like shit? why?
No
Stop it, get some help