We're in Reel Trouble; on the Grounds Repair - Fall Halibut Fishing
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
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I just love how you all stay calm and just deal with the issues. No tempers flaring or yelling, true role models in your reaction in adversity 👏
For sure, scott! Raising tensions even more doesn’t accomplish much, gotta keep a cool head and tackle problems as the arise.
He did say "darn it" lol
Again another great episodes from this incredible family! Adversity just rolls off and they work as an awesome team! No problem, no tantrums, just overcome the problem and move on. So many life lessons for us! We love this family! Just got our box of fish and it is absolutely great! Stay safe out there friends and may the Lord bless and keep you!
The most important thing to me, is that the EIS Family safely returned home.God bless.
Way to adapt and overcome guys. That had to have been really frustrating. Thanks for the watch and those were some nice fish
I grew up on a farm and am a mechanic by trade. I love watching you guys do work a d repairs. This is just a quick fix out on the grounds. Cleans everything up perfectly used never proper products. Good job guys.
Hey Christopher, glad you’re enjoying the videos! Thankfully we had some spare love joys.
I missed this one two years ago. A good video showing how you guys deal with adversity and keep on fishing. You need to find a stronger love joy.
We replaced the LoveJoy with a solid steel coupling from Boston Gear. This was the route we intended to go when we first rebuilt our reel, but finances were tight at the time and we settled for the LoveJoy. All is good now!
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You make it enjoyable to watch fishing shows once again. There is no yelling or drama when something comes up you just keep on fishing and then fix the problem. It’s nice to see you explain everything in detail and easy to understand. I wish you and your family to have great success in all your endeavours.
Proof is, she brought you into this world and she darn will take you out of this world just as easily :)
Haha!
I spent many years working with Lovejoy couplings, I dont ever remember seeing one break. Then again, those I worked with were never subjected to loads like that. Replaced a good many rubber inserts tho. You guys handled it well. I expect the solid steel ones you have ordered will better suit your needs. Good luck!!
Seen a few break over the years of that type and they do make higher torque or load type ones. I think standard is L and C & H are higher torque an strength rated? Then there's grid type and other types made it gets to be cost and down time then what is cheaper & easier when broke to replace and repair. Break downs make for long days and parts runs suck in any business.
Great video! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Excellent on-the-trot problem solving lads! Shame it happened twice ... could have been much worse! Well done fam - enjoyed thoroughly. Looking forward to the next installment. Cheers, and safe fishing fellas! Greets from Sydney, Australia.
The love joy is meant to be that weak link in your spool mechanic for a reason. You want that to break first before a more catastrophic break will occur and cost you maybe thousands.
The line is the weak link. It should break first.
@@EISAlaska I didn't think of that. I guess that is why I'm not a fisherman.
Awesome video guys,just love how nothing seems to phase you guys, always calm and collect no matter what ..or is it just great editing...lol
Stay safe guys and keep on sharing
For sure gazellis! Theres no sense in getting all panicky have to take things as they come.
God Bless you guys !
That long line grind! Love the family teamwork and watching you problem solve together. Positive Vibes, always 🤙
Love all your videos you post. I just love how all of you go about your tasks even when some adversity arises. Very calm and love the explanations you provide for anyone that may not know some of the terms. Superb Family. Keep up the Excellent Work and always be safe.
Those are some monster yellow eyes. One way to release them would be to use a desender device. They are a great tool us sport fishers use. And boats are like trucking. Always something to fix
Ah, the adventure of underway life. Great video!
I love how you guys function so well as a family/team I enjoy every video and when it’s tax time I will be putting in an order I wish I could order all the time but I’m disabled from a car accident and on a very limited budget but I will be ordering I want to taste those awesome fish I see get hauled in stay safe my friends
Hey John, we appreciate you just being here. Thanks for your support!
Modify those lovejoy connections using a zipper. Zip ‘‘em off and zip ‘‘em on. Bob’s ur uncle. Need an adjustable clutch release assembly. Making couplings more resilient will just transfer the loads to more expensive failure points, like the gearbox, drum shaft, or hydraulics.
Oh geez, that's a big backlash!
Install a variable pressure release valve with return on the reel hydraulic motor line. Set for just enough to pull your gear. Saves broken lost gear and broken reel parts. Powerful motor and gear box, will walk right through that reel setup.
If you don't have problems then you aren't doing anything--- another great informative video
What a mess, can you put the reel in neutral and hand reel the line to avoid all the slack line ?.Hair line crack then salt air and moisture wormed its way into that cog/ love joy. that's a neat set up.. loved seeing that ling cod, rubbery flesh but firms up when cooked. It must be expensive with having two boats sitting on the dock with dock fees and one boat not bringing in any revenue. ty for the video guys.
Good thing you have a family member mechanically inclined
Hi there You did well with the problems the bit that broke we call {dogs} over here in NZ a necessary part as you need a weak ling in a system that's cheap an easy fix so you don't brake the the expensive gear ,I worked on a cray boat an the winch had a bridge n straten engine it blew up so I had too pull up the cray pots the old way buy hand arrgg Haa ,good luck,
Way to hang in there guys. I think I would get that part fabricated out of SS like you said. Tight lines.
Yep. Stainless ones are very spendy, but we have machined steel ones on the way.
Why do they call that thing a spider ? Spider's have 8 limbs that Doovarlacky thing has 6 Doova's come off it lol great job guy's. That was a good string of fish then thus happened it's like you bloke's have my luck. If it wasn't for bad luck we would have no luck at all . Great video 👍
Great job by all Thanks for sharing 👍
Hope you all get those issues fixed that stinks! Cool reel is back in business! Nice job! Sheesh busted another coupling... :(
Hello I am watching .from philippines.keep safe all the time good bless you all.
Thanks for watching, enjoy!
I have seen many of the love joy couplings break. How ever it was caused by a deteriorated insert.
We started looking at Apex. You can change the insert out without pulling everything apart.
Good job
Love your videos guys hope you keep doin em!
Nice job!!... 👍
That was hard luck great video
Hand line fishing on the high seas. Woo-hoo. "Haul-i-butt" fishing. The "sintering" powder metallurgy with the very best quality control is not "casting". Sintering can achieve precision but never the strength of casting. I would look into a "shear pin" coupling calculated by torque requirements. Yes you might shear several during the season but parts cost and down time will be minimal. If you do a "no fail" machined steel coupling you stand a chance of failure on the motor and drum shafts. That'd be really bad. Best to all of you. Thanks for sharing.
Cool another awesome episode!
Better the lovjoy then a shaft.
Look up Fenner couplings they make some similar to the Lovejoy, I used them on my trawl winches and never had one fail even though we came fast a lot. Good you had spares on board, mostly we would blow a pipe at an inconvenient moment! Happy New Year from the land down under.
Happy New Year Roger! We replaced them with Boston Gear couplings. Machined from steel, no problems anymore.
Love the vibe on your sled.
Lovejoy does make a stainless version 👍
OK who broke the mirror? These days come to try us all. Hope you have better luck next time guys
Saludos desde Malaga España esos peces que pescais no los hay por aqui escepto el PULPO esta muy bueno a la gallega ver receta en internet cocido y con pimenton picante.
Saludos Pedro el Pescador
What about a double chain coupling , or would that be too strong ?
I was thinking about the same thing. Has to be stainless available to prevent rusting away.
I hadn't thought of that. Low profile, flexible. Great idea. We have new couplers on the way now. Machined from solid steel, they won't fail like a lovejoy will. At the time we rebuilt our reel funds were tight and lovejoys fit in the budget.
Ok NOW you have kinks worked out, it'll be clear sailing to the end of your quota!! 🤞
Oh man broken parts and getting caught up with a little bit of snarled gear oofff 🤣 I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been through it lol the worst I’d say was probably a 10,000 hook ball of gear 😂😭 fun day of cutting and splicing
Oof, indeed! The snap gear is relatively easy to clear, but tub gear...yikes.
Seems strange they work good for 6 years then 2 in one day. Best advice my dad ever gave me was, just because you buy a part new, doesn't mean it's good or not defective. One time I fought with a water pump on my truck , only to discover it had a defect. I exchanged it for another new one and didn't have any problems 🙄🤷♂️
It was odd, but we really think it was a result of the conditions and line. The 4 strand kelon is incredibly strong compared to manline and the combination that and no wind put us directly over the gear. One little swell was all it took to pop those lovejoys. Since then we have replaced them with steel couplings and no more issues.
You guys had a load of problems but my baby brother had the worse. His co-captain was moving my brother's new boat from one wharf to another one and he fell over board sometime before 3 am Thursday morning. Mike was a good friend of my family and he will be missed. Search continues for missing fishing boat captain | CBC News
David, that is terrible news. It saddens us to think of the pain this has brought to his family, friends and the community. May he rest in peace.
@@EISAlaska They found his body on the 15th and my brother is so heart broken.
G'Day,,,Hmmm,,broken coupling,,will do it every time,,this is just a sugestion,,even if you fit the solid coupling,,Install a small relief valve on forward side hose or manifold of motor drive,,this is only to save gear failure,,But you can wind up relief or wind it down reduce presure will save gear,,,
So inlet line to motor,relief valve teed in and a small check valve back to return line form dump side of relief,,
Check valve only to stop reverse flow,,shouldn't matter when drum is in reverse,,unless tank line pressure blow relief,,then ya got problems,,
Hope this helps,,save gear and make line work safer,,not enough horse power to break line,,or coupling..
Edit ,, had a thought,,don't know whether available but in line pressure reducing valve,,again manually operated and set,,this valve is normally open and shuts when pressure get to high..Not sure on back flow,,usually come with a bypass check to allow back flow,,
SO EITHER WAY NEED A CHECK VALVE,,
Thank you for your Films,,very good ,,
I love your son
Awesome
To resolve the lovejoy problem, would it be possible to rig up a tensioner pully not unlike what is used to keep tension on a serpentine belt in a vehicle? Let is take the bouncing stress. Using a stronger lovejoy is only going to move the weak point from it to somewhere else tougher and/or more expensive to fix.
The previous configuration was a splined shaft that went directly into the gearbox, no slippage there. In this case, the pressure relief valve would have kicked in before any gearing gives way, but more likely the ground line would part off whatever its caught up on.
Did your hydrolic psi accidently get turned up ? Before you have a solid Lovejoy made , you need to figure what is the cheapest part to repair or replace , an old man once told me that if I strengthen up one piece or area , I just weakened another . Decide what is the cheapest part to R & R . Love your vidieos, thank you .
Normally that line would part first. This was really tough line that was on the reel from along time ago. It has been removed now. I do need to double check my pressure relief on the hydraulic valve, as usually it would be screaming at me by then. I wonder if it can get stuck? The shafts are 1.5" stainless steel. No way those will fail before the line.
There's a chance Len that Lovejoy might replace your broken parts if you sent in failed pieces. As a mechanical engineer, If I worked for Lovejoy, I would do a fracture analysis to see if something was wrong with the powder metallurgy formulation or the sintering process on the batch of parts your couplings came from. Wouldn't hurt to send them an email explaining your odd two coupling failure experience in one trip..... you might get lucky!
I would consider buying their SS couplings, might be cheaper than parts made by your local machine shop .
Do you line braid or splice your broken long lines or just set aside for junk rope usage? I always line braided my (Dungeness) crab pot lines as time permitted and saved a lot of bucks when good life remained.
Maybe a clutch system would work that way if you get hooked up the clutch can slip if the pressure is to great.
Better to break a love joy vs a gear but still frustrating.
You should have a coupling machined from billet steel.
We have one on the way. Kinda spendy but found what we needed on Ebay and saved about half the new cost. That's why we went with Lovejoy originally as our budget was tight. Sorry about the volume also. Still working on a good setup that won't get destroyed by the elements.
@@EISAlaska Wish I would have known. I am a machinist and welder in Texas. I could have helped.
Can that love joy be made of hard rubber?
Hi Michael. There is a hard rubber spider that goes between the two halves. Although Lovejoy couplers are quite robust, they are made of powdered metal (sintered steel).
We have sourced solid steel couplers from Boston Gear and will replace these.
Sore tomorrow
Love Joy got dry rot and snapped, it happens guys
A guy I used to fish with was positive that neversieze was made from butterfly wings…
Slip clutch, search on farm equipment sites.
Second thought, instead of slip clutch, plate type assembly with a shear pin, they cost a couple of bucks. If you make the love joy to strong you can kill the drive.
Can you not set the pressure on the hydraulic relief valve so it will stop and unwind when the tension is so high, changing to a stainless steel love-joy may only find the next weakest link like a burst hydraulic hose or something worse.
You don't see no birds often when the fish are being gutted.
They can get bad at times. Depends on time and place I suppose.
i use a lot of the same love joys but they are crap, i went to an off brand half the price that are cast steel not cast iron cast steel you can weld with regular 7018 rod, they never brake, the spider craps out once in a wile, also is your re leaf calve on you motor spool valve is set to high it will not go over re-leaf and roll back, there also another type of coupler it 2 metal disks and a rubber tire with metal tab on it on each side the bolts to the disks and sits in a cut out in the hubs and 7/16 bolts holds them in
could a single shaft be put back in the reel to replace the joints? Cost wise would it be more efficent or not?
Get one made from a blank of Billet.
Cool, like a dog clutch! Does the fish tales hydrophilic system have some sort of hydraulic load control or over load sensor?
Spider = Cush drive..
Like you say, something has to give. If you make a stronger love joy gizmo, what will give then?
The ground line would have definitely gave if it hadn't been the tough stuff. Our normal ground line chafes and parts much easier but still strong and durable enough for our needs. Its a lot easier if it does, pick it up from the other end of the set, a quick splice and we're back in action.
EIS Alaska what happens to the line if it breaks? The fish on the hooks are anchored with small weight stuck in a crack?
@@billlink7116 Anchor and buoy setup on each end. If you break off you run to the other end and haul from there. We count our shots of line when we set and haul, so we know if any are left behind should we break off the second end. If that were to happen and it's a a few shots (600 foot shots) or more, then we would lay a set over top of it and try to snag it.
Is there a way you could add a relief valve on this section of the hydraulic supply to limit the torque produced and not fail the lovejoy?
Oh lord Jesus say it ain't so 😳
What were the orange fish you catch sometime
I'm sure this is a stupid question but can't you rap the line around the block several times like a capstan, keeping tension on it should allow enough friction to use the block right? Not trying to be a know it all, just curious.
Its a good question, Marc. It wouldn’t work because there is a peeler which prevents the line from getting stuck in the block. If we were to remove it, it would wind line on the block but only until it got full, there would be no way to slip loops off since the sides taper inwards. Thanks for the comment.
@@EISAlaska so yes it was a stupid question. Sorry just curious.
No worries, all questions are welcome!
I don’t know what the orange fish is or the blackish one. Probably an orange something or other and a black something else.
That is fishing LOL
Never seen fresh caught halibut cleaned......what exactly was he cleaning out with the ice cream scoop?
Hi Andre. Removing the bloodline. Ice cream scoops work great!
Can the gills and guts be used for bait?
What kind of monster are you?? Lol, kidding. Nah, it wouldn’t be worth the effort and most wouldn’t stay on the hooks very long. Maybe for crab or shrimp.
Excuse my ignorance but what is a "share box?"
Why do some people say Alaskan halibut is really turbut and a second or third rate eating fish?
Everytime I have a suggestion I end up feeling foolish. I went for years working in the oil industry here in Western Canada. It was one of my jobs to help mechanics when they showed up. One mechanic showed up with a tool and method I was skeptical about but turned into a learning experience. Have you got the tool of course I cannot remember the name, that allows you to measure the centre of the shaft so when you put on your coupler, you can see if it is centred? If not your coupler could come apart in five minutes or five years. The mechanic showed me how far from true ours was which is why we lost it every three months. Now I'm not trying to insult you, I have used Lovejoy couplers a lot and wondered why something named LoveJoy was being beaten by a hairy maniac at 0200 hrs!!
Lovejoy coupling are designed to allow for a fair amount of shaft misalingment. As the bore and the shaft are machined runout was not really the issue. The real problem and culprit for the failure was shock loading. Lovejoys are made of sintered metal. Essentially a powdered metal pressed under heat and extreme pressure to creat a solid part. While it is quite robust, it is more suited for static loads. When we first rebuilt this reel we wanted a machined steel coupling, but a $350 or so per half it wasn't in the budget. We picked up a few off Ebay to replace the Lovejoy for around $100 each.
@@EISAlaska yeah the Lovejoy soot! I always hated them. Now that you say this I am reminded that we went to a similar coupler. Our pumps moved cold heavy crude and often when it was -30 it took the pump a minute to get to any type of RPM so you can see the problem. Man that was so long ago. I went into the control room after that and my ten computer screens and I, moved oil and gas products around Western Canada and down through Montana. I was good because I had worked in the field for 22 years, so I knew what happened when I started a pump or opened a valve. Things have changed a lot for me. Thank you for answering my foolish question
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sure wish you guys would speak up or get a better mic, all I hear is mumbling, finding myself eavesdropping. id like to go along on the trip so you need to talk loud enough and make your sentences complete, kind of like speech class in school??
Sorry Deb. We will try to speak up, although then it sounds like we are shouting at everyone, lol. We are still trying to figure out what works well and won't get destroyed easily in these conditions.
We do have a good external, directional mic but one can't always face the camera to talk. We try to adjust the volume when editing, but it also adds a lot of popping and hissing so a balance must be found. Appreciate the feedback though.
Sounds good and clear on my end especially for being out in the elements. I have no problem at all. Might get soft or whisperey if the mic isn't in your direction of shoot, all in all I'd say you boys are doing a fine job
It all sounds pretty good to me. Not perfect, but they are out on the open ocean in a fishing boat.
I have no problem hearing what they say.
This is a commercial fishing boat work environment, not a Disney cruise. Diesel engines are loud so different mics could potentially make it better or worse. Im actually surprised we don’t hear the engine *more.* 😀
It's bad luck to have a woman on board. You're lucky that's all that broke. :)