I think a DPT can be incredibly useful IF it's applied in the right way. Think critically about the material you're taught, and figure out how you can apply it to help your patients, and you can make an enormous difference in their lives.
@@phdeadlift thanks Ben I agree with your stand point I actually get some shit for being strong in DPT school advisor said shave bread and lift lighter weights 😂
As a PT I agree with most of what you said. I personally HATE it when patients really want a diagnosis. Or when they come in with a "inflamed bursa" and they know because the doctor raised their arm and it hurt. I also used to think that if you get a patient back to 50% they can figure out the rest since it is so sport specific. ( Most can't) My PT clinic does not have 700lbs of weights. Treating sport specific injuries without being able to screen the actual lift or other sport movement makes it very difficult to scale back to 100%.
This is exactly my experience with PT. Many of them will see the diagnosis and give you a list of exercises to do. The good ones start with a full body assessment.
I have been to probably 10 PT offices over the years for bilateral tennis elbow. More often than not, it’s a student treating you based off a cookbook recipe for XYZ injury. At $20 copay a visit I typically go on TH-cam, and put the money towards bands or whatever for working on the injury myself. A lot of places now use completely unproven methods such as cupping and TENS stimulation to seem like they’re providing a greater service. In the end, i saw a surgeon and got both elbows fixed as a definitive treatment and I wish I had done that 3 years sooner.
I've been going through this over the last few years. Have had a few injuries related to heavy lifting and almost all PT I've tried has felt lackluster, some to the point of incompetence. They can very rarely relate past common "everyday" injuries, they rarely do assessments but instead just focus on the exact point of pain, they give you lightweight exercises to do and keep telling you that it can be fixed, just need to pay for some more PT. Never any scaling or load management over time. One PT I had literally didn't assess me at all, just asked me where it hurt and would then bring out a massage gun and hit the area for about 10-15 minutes (not going back there).
Im gong to start this with an apology, im sorry you saw a shitty PT, I know there are plenty, and it sucks to be stuck with one as a strength athlete. As a physical therapist that works specifically with a ton of strength athletes, I really dont think this video comes close to how physical therapy is/should be applied. Do I think many of my peers in the field fall short? Sure. But not a single PT I work with treats based off diagnosis. You are describing the kinesiopathologic model, which they stopped teaching and replaced with bio-psychosocial (which is an evidence based version of what you are saying we should be doing, and we are) We assess deficits, we treat deficits, and restore function. Ive gotten multiple lifters back up to 600+ and even 700+ pound deadlifts. Plenty of PT's have understanding of load management and progressive loading back to demands of sport. Throwing around "99% of PT's dont do this" makes me think you went to a NovaCare or other corporate PT Mill, did poorly, and are now lashing out on a profession that you have very little understanding of.
Had a great experience with my PT two years ago. Herniated C5-C7; protrusions on the left side. We had imaging to base the treatment around so it wasn't like we had to figure out what the issue was.
6:35 hit me hard. I recently sprained my back on a deadlift, but because of fear of making it worse, I stopped lower body work for 2 weeks and I did very light weight rows, stiff legs and good mornings. In terms of percentage it was 30% of my injury weight. That took months before I dared to continue ramping up my weights. Essentially I wasted about 5 months to get back to training weight, even though it might have been just a muscle strain.
Idk if you intended to show us other slides but I think the format could improve if you did something similar to Dr. Mike’s videos (Renaissance Periodization). Where the slides are overlayed beside your head. And if we could see the other slides lol
Thanks for this video topic and glad you're back! I was wondering why the background slide wasn't changing until I saw your comment and link to the slide presentation. I'm a techy, if you want quick help on some recording setups or recording the right slide, let me know I'm happy to help. Btw, I'm on Phase 2 of your Powerlifting + Mindpump collab program and loving it. Probably going to do your free 8 week course next. Thanks for everything you do.
I agree to the scenarioes you are talking about. PT's are often to hung up diagnosis and corrective exercises and dont scale load, exercise selection (and so on) to the patient. My problem with this video is that it presents PT as "diagnosis --> corrective exercises" when in reality it is much more commen finding PT's that cater to athletes and use correct scaling and other useful tools for rehab. So in short i think the title might have triggered me little (i know im a little snowflake) being a PT myself and seeing loads of brilliant therapists. Dont take this angry criticism, its just my thoughts and an opening for dicussion 🤝
I am currently with a ruptured ACL and I found a PT at the gym I am going to, who is also into powerlifting thus I kinda feel confident that working with him should bring me back to an actual full recovery,might as well get awesome results without surgery. At the moment of writing this I only got my MRT results but havent seen an actual Doctor yet so yea😅. I don’t know what answer I expect from you but one thing is for sure. You’re the man and thanks for the video!
I would stick with it for as long as you continue to progress! Hypertrophy training really doesn't require a lot of variety until you're at a very advanced level.
This is great content. How much of stress in daiy life, training, work, relationships etc. do you think woud play a part of your reaction to injury? Do you think your daily stress levels would have a great impact on your inflamation and your recovery?
One channel I kept coming back to even though it was dormant for a long time was this one. Such good content. All the best in your BB journey. Not sure if we were supposed to see the slides, but I don't think we could. If we're not supposed to then you may as well expand your video to full screen.
Could definitely give you some feedback. The lecture information was great. If you're going to use slides, actually use them. You can even use AI tools to develop a quick presentation for you if you've written out the bullet points and sub points.
Lol I’m in DPT school
I think a DPT can be incredibly useful IF it's applied in the right way. Think critically about the material you're taught, and figure out how you can apply it to help your patients, and you can make an enormous difference in their lives.
@@phdeadlift thanks Ben I agree with your stand point
I actually get some shit for being strong in DPT school advisor said shave bread and lift lighter weights 😂
As a PT I agree with most of what you said. I personally HATE it when patients really want a diagnosis. Or when they come in with a "inflamed bursa" and they know because the doctor raised their arm and it hurt.
I also used to think that if you get a patient back to 50% they can figure out the rest since it is so sport specific. ( Most can't)
My PT clinic does not have 700lbs of weights. Treating sport specific injuries without being able to screen the actual lift or other sport movement makes it very difficult to scale back to 100%.
I'm so glad Ben is back, honestly just having this dude post consistently keeps me motivated.
It keeps me motivated too :)
This is exactly my experience with PT. Many of them will see the diagnosis and give you a list of exercises to do. The good ones start with a full body assessment.
I have been to probably 10 PT offices over the years for bilateral tennis elbow. More often than not, it’s a student treating you based off a cookbook recipe for XYZ injury. At $20 copay a visit I typically go on TH-cam, and put the money towards bands or whatever for working on the injury myself.
A lot of places now use completely unproven methods such as cupping and TENS stimulation to seem like they’re providing a greater service.
In the end, i saw a surgeon and got both elbows fixed as a definitive treatment and I wish I had done that 3 years sooner.
Love the videos, glad you’re back.
Thank you!!
I've been going through this over the last few years.
Have had a few injuries related to heavy lifting and almost all PT I've tried has felt lackluster, some to the point of incompetence.
They can very rarely relate past common "everyday" injuries, they rarely do assessments but instead just focus on the exact point of pain, they give you lightweight exercises to do and keep telling you that it can be fixed, just need to pay for some more PT. Never any scaling or load management over time.
One PT I had literally didn't assess me at all, just asked me where it hurt and would then bring out a massage gun and hit the area for about 10-15 minutes (not going back there).
Welcome back Ben! Glad to see you in good spirits and making videos again!
really enjoyed this thanks ben
I'm glad! Thank you!
I’m in my third year of undergrad and plan on going to DPT school afterwards. I’ll try and be one of the good ones.
Then you will be!
Hey, great info, but it looks like you were clicking through slides but it didn't change over in the video
I know :( I have an explanation and link to the slides in the description!
it's great you're back
I have been thinking this for years. Thanks for the video!
Im gong to start this with an apology, im sorry you saw a shitty PT, I know there are plenty, and it sucks to be stuck with one as a strength athlete. As a physical therapist that works specifically with a ton of strength athletes, I really dont think this video comes close to how physical therapy is/should be applied. Do I think many of my peers in the field fall short? Sure. But not a single PT I work with treats based off diagnosis. You are describing the kinesiopathologic model, which they stopped teaching and replaced with bio-psychosocial (which is an evidence based version of what you are saying we should be doing, and we are) We assess deficits, we treat deficits, and restore function. Ive gotten multiple lifters back up to 600+ and even 700+ pound deadlifts. Plenty of PT's have understanding of load management and progressive loading back to demands of sport. Throwing around "99% of PT's dont do this" makes me think you went to a NovaCare or other corporate PT Mill, did poorly, and are now lashing out on a profession that you have very little understanding of.
Had a great experience with my PT two years ago. Herniated C5-C7; protrusions on the left side. We had imaging to base the treatment around so it wasn't like we had to figure out what the issue was.
6:35 hit me hard. I recently sprained my back on a deadlift, but because of fear of making it worse, I stopped lower body work for 2 weeks and I did very light weight rows, stiff legs and good mornings. In terms of percentage it was 30% of my injury weight. That took months before I dared to continue ramping up my weights. Essentially I wasted about 5 months to get back to training weight, even though it might have been just a muscle strain.
Idk if you intended to show us other slides but I think the format could improve if you did something similar to Dr. Mike’s videos (Renaissance Periodization). Where the slides are overlayed beside your head.
And if we could see the other slides lol
Thanks for this video topic and glad you're back! I was wondering why the background slide wasn't changing until I saw your comment and link to the slide presentation. I'm a techy, if you want quick help on some recording setups or recording the right slide, let me know I'm happy to help. Btw, I'm on Phase 2 of your Powerlifting + Mindpump collab program and loving it. Probably going to do your free 8 week course next. Thanks for everything you do.
At generic PT office, "Alright Bob, today we're gonna pull 765 for 3x3"
I agree to the scenarioes you are talking about. PT's are often to hung up diagnosis and corrective exercises and dont scale load, exercise selection (and so on) to the patient.
My problem with this video is that it presents PT as "diagnosis --> corrective exercises" when in reality it is much more commen finding PT's that cater to athletes and use correct scaling and other useful tools for rehab.
So in short i think the title might have triggered me little (i know im a little snowflake) being a PT myself and seeing loads of brilliant therapists.
Dont take this angry criticism, its just my thoughts and an opening for dicussion 🤝
Would be great to see you have a discussion on this subject with Adam Meakins
I am currently with a ruptured ACL and I found a PT at the gym I am going to, who is also into powerlifting thus I kinda feel confident that working with him should bring me back to an actual full recovery,might as well get awesome results without surgery. At the moment of writing this I only got my MRT results but havent seen an actual Doctor yet so yea😅. I don’t know what answer I expect from you but one thing is for sure. You’re the man and thanks for the video!
extremely thoughtful and useful perspective. Thanks for sharing!!
I'm really glad you liked it!
Barbell medicine....the Biophychosocial model mate....
How long do you recommend me to use your intermediate bb program? or doing it 1 2 meso and a bit changing like your free 8 week powerbuilding ?
I would stick with it for as long as you continue to progress! Hypertrophy training really doesn't require a lot of variety until you're at a very advanced level.
This is great content. How much of stress in daiy life, training, work, relationships etc. do you think woud play a part of your reaction to injury? Do you think your daily stress levels would have a great impact on your inflamation and your recovery?
One channel I kept coming back to even though it was dormant for a long time was this one. Such good content. All the best in your BB journey.
Not sure if we were supposed to see the slides, but I don't think we could. If we're not supposed to then you may as well expand your video to full screen.
Yeah, I've always had trouble video editing :( There's a link to the slides in the description!
Good to see you back. I’d like to see a Ben pollack Dr Mike colab
More of these for sure 😎
What is your opinions on neurological patterns that cause over active muscles? posterior restoration Institute specialize in PT focused on this.
Could definitely give you some feedback. The lecture information was great.
If you're going to use slides, actually use them. You can even use AI tools to develop a quick presentation for you if you've written out the bullet points and sub points.
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Appreciate you!