Franz Lachner - Symphony No.8 in G-minor, Op.100 (1851)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 มิ.ย. 2024
- Franz Lachner
Work: Symphony No.8 in G-minor, Op.100 (1851)
Mov.I: Andante - Allegro maestoso 00:00
Mov.II: Andante 16:43
Mov.III: Scherzo: Allegro assai 29:30
Mov.IV: Finale: Allegro vivace 36:22
Orchestra: Slovak State Philharmonic Orchestra
Conductor: Paul Robinson - เพลง
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Lachner's sym.8 is most melodious. It is of a truth that we have never heard many composers. And this one shows that they weren't as popular, but just as prolific. I will be exploring this guy a whole lot more.
Franz Lachner and Bruckner had the same composition teacher, Simon Sechter, so the tow composers rightfully inherited a similar compositional outlook, especially regarding harmony and developmental procedures.
A beautiful symphony. The comparison with the symphonies of Schumann (1841-1851) or Berwald (1842-1845) show how much it was possible to follow different paths. Lachner symphonies were written between 1828 and 1851. The oboe solo at 11:35 strangely echoes in advance Dvorak's use of the clarinet in the the Noon witch, including the silence of the orchestra (part 3 = the death of the child). We can bet that Bruckner was aware of this symphony when writing his, or was sensitive to the Zeitgeist.
Maybe the missing link to Bruckner is Simon Sechter. I see that Lachner also studied under him in Vienna.
Franz Paul Lachner est un compositeur et chef d'orchestre bavarois, né à Rain-am-Lech le 2 avril 1803 - mort à Munich le 20 janvier 1890.
Biographie
Lachner naquit à Rain-am-Lech dans une famille de musiciens. Son père Anton Lachner était organiste municipal et ses frères Ignaz, Theodor et Vinzenz furent aussi des musiciens. Il étudia la musique avec Simon Sechter et Maximilian Stadler. Il devint ami intime de Franz Schubert et fit la connaissance de Ludwig van Beethoven. En 1823, il obtint un poste d'organiste à l'église luthérienne. Il fut chef d'orchestre assistant au Theater am Kärntnertor à Vienne (1827-1829), puis premier chef (1829-1834). En 1834, il devint Kapellmeister à Mannheim (1834-1836). En 1835, il reçut à Vienne le premier prix pour une composition symphonique avec sa Sinfonia passionata, et fut nommé Kapellmeister royal à Munich (1836-1865), devenant une figure majeure dans la vie musicale de la ville. Il dirigeait les représentations à l'opéra ainsi que les différents concerts et festivals. Sa carrière connut un déclin soudain en 1864, lorsque Hans von Bülow, un disciple de Richard Wagner, se vit confier ses différentes charges. Lachner resta officiellement à son poste en congé prolongé jusqu'à ce que son contrat expire.
Mort à Munich, il y fut enterré à l'Ancien cimetière du Sud (buste de Michael Wagmüller).
Wonderful symphony, like all the Lachner's symphonies! Thank you very much for sharing!
Telling that there is something pre-brucknerian in this music does not mean that Bruckner could have written it. But there is often an "air de déjà entendu", a kind of atmosphere that prefigures what Bruckner will later compose. Maybe, as Patrick Becker (as well as J. Sussman, below) told me on this site (in his answer to my comment below), the key could be Simon Sechter, whose most bright students were (among many others, from Wikipedia in German)
Anton Bruckner (1824-1896), Komponist und Organist
Julius Egghard (1834-1867), Pianist und Komponist
Adolf Henselt (1814-1889), Pianist, Komponist und Klavierpädagoge
Theodor Kullak (1818-1882), Pianist, Komponist und Musiklehrer
Franz Lachner (1803-1890), Komponist und Dirigent
Franz Schubert (1797-1828), Komponist
Sigismund Thalberg (1812-1871), Pianist und Komponist
Henri Vieuxtemps (1820-1881), Violinist und Komponist
Lachner was a close friend of Schubert (and their chamber music share many similarities). In some way, it is not surprising to find Lachner on the road between Schubert and Bruckner. Nice example in Lachner's 5th symphony
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after 17'10 with a FULLY Brucknerian sonority of the complete orchestra at 18'10 - 18'30. Twenty full seconds are enough to get convinced of it.
Enormously better than anything played on Radio 3 these days.
Complete new for me but I enjoyed this beautiful music.
Slovakia (where my four grandparents were born) is a small nation with a small population, but it has one of the greatest symphony orchestras in the world! This is an outstanding musical work, which I had never heard before today. Thank you, KuhlauDilfeng2.
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Una obra y un autor totalmente desconocidos para mí pero que me han asombrado. Gracias.
Great and amazing. So beautiful and deep. I enjoyed so much. Thanks for share. From Iran...
Lachner is really one of those work that you can't stop listening until you get to the end.
J’ai très peu entendu parler de Lachner et n'ai jamais eu le temps de l’écouter profondément. C'est désormais chose faite et dès la première seconde quelque chose d'étrange m'arriva : je me retrouvais comme envoûté, submergé. Ici, ni ennui ni somnolence, même si cette musique hypnotique aux accords profonds doit se briser souvent sur le roc de la sidération. Elle établit une telle synthèse de la vision frelatée et de la spiritualité musicale de son époque que c’en est vertigineux !
Je découvre aussi avec grand surprise , je vais poursuivre..
The atmosphere this piece gives off is electrifying! Splendid stuff!
You pick great backgrounds for these pieces 👏
This is a really lovely and inspiring work! Thanks for introducing us to this relatively unknown symphony.
Beethoven, Bach, Mozart, Teleman, and Chopin are great. But there are thousands more composers who have no exposure till now. There is no way a brick and mortar retail music building could house these great composers on vinyl or cd's, nor could my budget afford to get to sample them either. Thank you whoever uploads these with the liner notes!
I came here because of the octopus.
Me too. I thought the octopus is the player as well as conductor !
Nobody on the shore seems too concerned that a giant octopus as big as a city block is hanging around almost completely out of the water. And they think they can "catch" it with two helicopters and a few ropes. I guess I'll just listen to the music now...
Kraken
@@Homunculas Yeah, big scary mutant 🐙 octopus.
Love to know who painted it. Kind of cool
SUBLIME,GRANDIOSO COMPOSITOR,MILLON DE GRACIAS!
Wonderful music! Who is that painting by? It looks like the octopus that Kong devoured in the movie "Skull Island!"
Extraordinary symphony!
A wonderful symphony!
sublime!
How I adore the beautiful movements 2 thru 4!! Only the 1st with its 16 minutes unfortuneately I find rather boring. My favourite part is the haunting passage with the solo flute in the 2nd movement...
Loved it! Thank you for posting. DA
Quite a passionate symphony!
Some of these great paintings would be right at home on a heavy metal CD. Just had another one the other day with some hideous dragon -- August Winding
thank you...:)
Great composer, wonderful music! Where to find a record or a restitution of his 7th symphony op.58?
Bruckner comes to mind when I hear this music.
+Brian Knapp Brian - You are right, Bruckner really does come to mind in the opening introdution - ver primal - the rest is pure Lachner! Shame we can't hear 2,3, 4, 6,& 7!!
Thankfully Bruckner never comes to mind for me. But there is a bit of that loud meandering present.
BRIAN, HEAR BORRENSON,DANISH,AND FRANK AND MOLIQUE , GERMAN WORKS ON YOU TUBE, ALL EXCELLLENT GEMS LIKE LACHNERS MUSIC !!.
@@12corners Oh, we now have 3 on TH-cam, I think the recording was made in 2018 in case you are not aware. I would have loved to hear more Lachner though T_T
@@mrturtle1128the third is glorious
Genial dramatismo.
Go viola openings! ... not to be confused with Go, viola openings!
Viola went to refresh my drink. This is good stuff.
William Schuman has the violas introduce the main theme of his Symphony No. 3, 1st movement.
I've noticed a couple of comparisons of this symphony (the first I've ever heard of Lachner) with Bruckner. I hear more of Schumann and Mendelssohn here, though a great deal more powerful than either of those two. But Bruckner? Too melodious and fast-moving (at least in first movement) to be mistaken for Bruckner. And he finishes a theme before developing the next, unlike Bruckner. (Listen to the slow movement, rather the slowest, of Bruckner Symphony no.3 for an extreme example of not finishing a melody.) Ah! Brucknerian drum-roll at 12:08. Not enough for the comparison.
I'm enjoying it a great deal so far.
.... Edit, as I start hearing the finale after a melodious andante and fun scherzo: Yeah, the orchestra is having fun with this. I am just beginning to realize how formulaic this movement is. Does not diminish my enjoyment. If we want to compare to other composers, I think I hear some orchestration and rhythmic techniques for Mendelssohn and a bit from Shubert's teen-age symphonies. Just with a much bigger and brassier orchestra. (Even though the strings & woodwinds carry most of the music.)
Release the Kraken!
It would be good to credit the pictures you use, if only so we can lookup the artist.
I discovered this week the music of 2 lesser kmown German composer, Franz Lachner and Ferdinand Ries. Both certainly deserves to be better known. I adore the wonderfull piano concertos of Ries and really excellent orchrstral suites of Lachner. As for their symphonies, I personally comsider Ries' set to a much greater discovery than the symphonies of Lachner. There is so much to enjoy and admire in the Ries symphonies, even though it certainly owes much to Beethoven. But for Lachner, his 1 hour long no.5 way too long and repitive for the material it contains. No 8 is much better, although after the promising start, that reminds one strongly of Bruckner, the level of inpiration drops as thr symphony continues
Try Ferdinand Ries' piano concertos! I've listened to all eight of them (numbered 2 to 9!) and have been particularly taken by nos.3 & 8 & 9; especially no.8 in A flat major.
Agree on Ries -- wonderful set of piano concertos but I always forget and go nuts looking for No. 1
@@knownfact4905 Just in case you have not heard this before, Ries has no piano concerto titled piano concerto no 1. In numbering his concertos he did not distinguished between piano and violin concertos. So he called his only violin concerto concerto no 1 for violin and orchestra and his first piano concerto concerto no 2 for piano and orchestra. A strange and as far as I know unique way of numbering concertos.
I must now, after more listening to Lachner's symphonies, I now have a much higher regard for it than 3 years. Very good and I think equal in quality to the excellent symphonies of Ries, although being of a much different characters than Ries' symphonies.
@@ewaldsteyn469 Thanks I did finally learn about that but only after more than a year of rummaging around TH-cam wondering what the heck had happened to Piano Concerto No 1. Anyway I'm a big Ries fan but unfamiliar with Lachner -- looking forward to giving his work a listen. And all thanks to the giant squid!
Art work?
That's a really sad scene of the giant squid fighting for his life while onlookers are cheering. %^(
They'd better back off a little or they're going to become squid food
Some specific parts reminded me of the nightmare before christmas ost
Excelente!! Sólo puedo emplear un calificativo: MAGISTRAL!
Now there's a picture !!! Anyone know what the painting is?
Da ist wohl ein wissenschaftliches Experiment schief gegangen . Aber die Musik ist gut , zum wegtriften .
I assume the picture shows a distant relative of the Tree Climbing Octopus in the Hoh Rain Forest of Washington
u assume koreckly
Cthulhu, baby.
@@robertines1598 -- Wow...Turns out you're right...How'd you know? "In "The Call of Cthulhu", H. P. Lovecraft describes a statue of Cthulhu as "A monster of vaguely anthropoid outline, but with an octopus-like head whose face was a mass of feelers, a scaly, rubbery-looking body, prodigious claws on hind and fore feet, and long, narrow wings behind." Cthulhu has been described in appearance as resembling an octopus, a dragon and a human caricature, hundreds of meters tall, with webbed human-looking arms and legs and a pair of rudimentary wings on its back. Cthulhu's head is depicted as similar to the entirety of a gigantic octopus, with an unknown number of tentacles surrounding its supposed mouth. Cthulhu possibly could have the ability to make people lose their minds by visual contact with the entity."
Great music....but what is the story of this picture? Who, When, What, Why...etc? Very strange. Much stranger than Lachner's music.
+Thomas Andrews. The painter is Eugene Siryk and the painting has the name: Triumph.
+Worldlover Must have been the triumph of the drugs he was taking. Lovely symphony, though.
The great H.P.LOVECRAFT
'
acht opus' comes to mind
Didn't realise the octopuses(octopii?)were so YUUUGE in those days!How did he get it to sit still long enough to complete the painting?
Does anybody know what critics said about his work? Why wasn't he more popular? Just from listening halfway through I suppose the themes do lack a certain memorability.
So far the dang picture is better than the music!
Left over calamari for all.
Wayne Warmack be sure. Remember 20.000 léguas submarina s,Júlio Verne an old tale ,since 1900's maybe