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My friend bought one of these as a joke. He fell so in love with it and it’s capabilities that he actually sold his Harley and kept the scooter.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 it's funny i did the same 😂😂😂
That's so funny. My friend bought one as a joke too. (At least he said it was as a joke.) But he ended up really liking it. He's a big body builder dude and looks so goofy on it.
Lol I know of a fourth guy who did the same. He bought it at an estate sale because it was so cheap. He kept joking about it being his new ride and we all knew he flipped bikes weekly so we expected it to be gone soon as he found a buyer. 4 yrs later he's still riding it. I drove it once and it felt pretty good too be honest. Felt like a lighter goldwing with a higher seating position.
Who spends upwards of 11k on a joke?
@@sneat2028 people with money to blow but you can get them used in my area for next to nothing like a couple grand. My friend got his for a couple hundred at an estate sale.
Can we just talk about how sticky that sticky note is
LMAO
Exactly
Cuz its merica made
I can't see because of it.
Seriously, that thing is holding on for dear life
When we get older many people end up with arthritis, and it makes riding a regular bike difficult. So in '07 I bought a new Burgman Executive because it was a step through, had a comfortable seat and had decent speed, acceleration and handling. That step through design made it possible to ride, since the arthritis in my hips made it impossible to throw my leg over the bike like I could many years ago when I was younger. Everyone gets old, and many suffer ailments through the so called 'golden' years. So while it may not be cool for a younger person to ride a scooter like a Burgman, it does allow some of us older riders to enjoy many of the aspects and freedom of riding!
I agree. I have a Kawasaki Vulcan 1600 cc. I am almost 60 and thinking of getting a big scooter. We rode the Piaggio MP3 Wheeler 400 cc in Italy for a week. SO fun and so easy in corners etc. One guy with us had a Burgman 650 and he loved it too. I did not get to ride it, but I could see how fast it was. All the bigger scooters have really comfy seats now too. I don't have arthritis...yet... but I totally see your point about the step through.
@@albauters1 I am almost 70 and riding a Kawasaki Vulcan Voyager. Its starting to get a bit heavy so I may down size to a smaller Honda. But no scooters....Ha!
anything with two wheels is a blast to ride. only the most diehard bike enthusiasts will understand that.
In my twenties and I want a Burgman so bad, screw cool, I saw one and fell in love, gonna use it to tour
Try riding in London then you’ll know why the folding mirrors are a good idea
If you get rid of an HD to ride a Scooter you are upgrading!
i love my burgman. my insurance company calls it a motorcycle. the state of Missouri calls it a motorcycle. i call it a motorcycle.
No matter what it is, if youre riding on two wheels, you're having fun!
Came here to say this; leaving satisfied.
Funny it accelerated faster then you were ready to shift. The little wheels will stop it from being good long range BUT I'm sure they are perfect in town.
I saw a *Suzuki Bergman 650* on a sidewalk in North Carolina once and I was in the market for one at the time.
But after seeing that one I am glad I did not buy one.
Why - My 1st impression was: "That is a fat, ugly scooter". The second was: "That is a very fat, very ugly scooter".
Performance is probably good & the utility in all weather conditions is probably great. But even though I am 56 years old, the overweight looks & huge area the scooter takes up is a serious downer.
I bought a motorcycle with saddlebags instead.
@@4406bbldb The're great long range,don't know where people get these ideas.
I find it funny that most "motorcycle guys" have no clue when getting on a dirt bike. Go ride some trails and mud before you get all high and mighty. I've had a little 50cc scooter that I installed 82cc head/piston/exhaust and such on. It was crazy fun to scoot around on in town. Put gas in it once every couple of weeks. Hand it off to friends without getting nervous. Once you get past what other people think life gets a lot more fun.
I purchased the 2018 model after driving my 2008 model for years, and then recently sold it. I have driven every motorcycle on the market since 1965, from Honda's to Harley's. I average about 8 thousand miles a year, and that's all local riding for the most part. After having a total knee replacement in 2009 in May, I knew two things: 1... I would miss out a half summer of riding because I couldn't through my leg over my motorcycle, and 2... I've never give a damned what people thought of me. So I walked in to a dealer that I've dealt with for 35 years and he had a while 650 Burgman with 4000 miles. I told him that I wanted to try it out. He said "I've known you for 35 years and I know you wont like a scooter". I said, "we'll see". I took it out for 15 mines and LOVED it! It's SO fast that you wouldn't believe it. I've raced 3 Harley 1200s with stock carbs and beat them all. The first thing ALL motorcycle riders will do when riding the scooter is squeeze the clutch lever. WAIT! That's not the clutch! That's the brake! It's a habit that will take a good rider just a few minutes to get past. After that, the Burgman is without a doubt, the BEST two wheels that I have EVER ridden! No Harley, No Honda... NOTHING can beat it for comfort and rideability. I've said to myself many times over that years that I should have bought a Burgman 3 motorcycles ago! Anyway, I loved it so much that I bought a brand new one this past Spring. I dont consider this to be a "scooter". It's big, it's bad, and it's FAST. So if you're looking for something that's easy to ride (no foot controls whatsoever. Just hand throttle and hand brakes) super smooth and fast. Can tear up the curves because the center of gravity is so low, then I highly recommend the Burgman.
wvsky ..I too had them all except a Harley. Just 650 lbs too heavy as I age. Had 400 Burgman...also Best!!
Where are model changes in Burgmans ? 2018 ? Didn't they make a facelift around 2012 or so.. ?
I love my Burger 09 AN400..such a great smile on ya dial type bike..scooter whatever..its great
yes scooters are great had a Yamaha 400 and loved it, but like to do some dirt roads and trails so need a little more ground clearance and skinny tires, so am going to CB 500 X 2019. But even my 400 Yamaha would leave many bikes behind on the windy roads, and it topped out over 160 kph. not bad for a 400.
Open mind, that's what we all need! I have a Triumph AND a Honda scooter in my garage and love them both for different reasons.
This is a motorcycle disguised as a scooter!
Your brain is a scooter disguised as a motorcycle!
In my country we call all 2 wheel vehicle motorcycle.
Motorcycle, Scooter, who cares? As long as it does the trick for you!
I bought my Burgman 650 around 2006. I still have it until this day and I LOVE riding it.
Literally everyone I know who's actually tried one freaking loves it. Everyone who hasn't hates it. Must be a contagious device - going to try one myself today hopefully ;D
I love scooters I love motorcycles anything with 2 wheels bro I will ride any brand I love them
Me too. Got a 125cc twist and go for urban riding/commuting, Got a 750cc sports tourer as a hobby vehicle. If I am honest the 125cc is just as much fun.
I'm with you..anything with 2 wheels and a motor puts a smile on my face every time.
I just love everything motorized lol
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We had a kymco 200, a kymco 300i and now a xmax300. My wife commutes a short distance and the scooter is a perfect option to taking the car.i dont ride anymore, but occasionally take the scooter out for a run.
Reviewers never seem to mention that the 650 Burgman has overdrive. Once you're on the highway and reach 100 kmph put the bike in manual mode, then paddle up to 6th gear which is overdrive. The bike will drop 500 rpm and purr like a kitten at 120 kmph. Make sure to go back into automatic mode if your speed drops below 90 kmph or the bike will lug.
Why ? Why not just use the Automatic Mode, full time ?
@@intergalacticbasketballdro7186 You can use automatic mode full time if you want, but you cannot access overdive in automatic mode. Only in overdrive will your RPM's drop at high speeds. It's easier on the engine and you save fuel.
When i switch to manual at highway speeds it shows I'm in 6th gear already
@@gregorycarpenter What? I had no idea this was a thing at all.... Gotta ask if my dad knows about this - I'll hopefully be taking his for a sping today :D So thanks for the tip!
@@KindOldRaven You're most welcome...!
THOSE MIRRORS FOLD IN SO THAT YOU CAN TAKE INTO YOUR HOUSE THROUGH A REGULAR SIZED DOOR. THAT IS AMAZING.
Indeed, and go in between cars at traffic lights.
@@OohzyJohnDow no I don’t think they built that to break the law! Manufacturers would be sued to hell and back if they recommended that for illegal traffic offends them someone got hurt or killed! Think about it! Apartment door absolutely I do believe that one cause in Japan they use these like cars and put them in there tiny garages and apartments where space is a premium!
@@tammyforbes2101 That's not against the law in most of the world. I don't know any country besides the USA where lane-splitting (filtering) is illegal.
It's for lane splitting man. The whole world does it.
@@morganmitchell4017 well, germany, austria, Switzerland, france, italy, sweden, yeah pretty much all of europe. Just depending where you are it won't be enforced
"I'm not a scooter guy, I'm a motorcycle guy."
Most of the world outside the US: "Same thing"
But it’s not. Technically, if you can step through it, i.e., no frame in the way, it’s a scooter. Motorcycles have “full” frames. Everyone outside the US is just wrong and they can get over it. A licensing requirement does NOT a motorcycle make.
@@vincedibona4687 The definition of a scooter is that its a form of motorcycle 🤓
@@vincedibona4687 "Un unitedstatian I assume"
My wife had the 450. It was so balanced, and smooth. Never a single problem with it in 35,000 miles.
The retractable mirrors are for lane splitting where that's legal to do. These things are for long highway hauls, even seen them outfitted with a trailer. People who buy them know what's up.
And for parking in tight spaces in Paris.
C V I love mine. Wouldn’t change it for anything.
Once you go Burgman 650, you never go back.
Average Joe ..Amen
@@averagejoe7532 I did. Never got on with the thing. I like being in charge of my gear ratios. And it is expensive, a small Suzuki car is cheaper to buy.
Previous owner of a 2007 Burgman 650. You failed to mention the cavern under the seat. Holds two full size lids, with enough room left over for snacks. I've brought home a weeks worth of groceries. That's more than I can carry in my Wing!
Yep; huge cargo bin. I once did an Iron Butt Border-to-Border attempt from Vancouver, BC to Tijuana, Mexico (I didn't make it in 24 hours due to hitting an oil slick in Coalinga, CA that required repair work at a dealership), and I had all my toiletries, change of clothing, rain gear, camera, etc. under the seat. On my way home to Seattle I stopped at a hotel in Redding where there were several touring riders on conventional bikes, and when they saw my Washington plates and no visible suitcases or backpacks they were somewhat curious. When I lifted the seat and started pulling out all my gear and laying it on the sidewalk they were dumbstruck.
Number 1 selling point, convenience.
I need one of these to deliver food with! I live down south it’s warm most of the time but rains all the damn time! Long as the food didn’t get messed up that’s all that matters. I could just hop in my car when I got back may have to change clothes but I’m thinking long as you kept moving it wouldn’t be that bad not sure.
My CB600 could hold at least 3 packs of gum under the seat... so there!
@@tammyforbes2101 It is great for that. I've used mine for Meals on Wheels many years! Three times a week I deliver about 5-6 meals, all nicely carried under the seat.
My Burgman is the best touring bike I have ever owned... and yes I have had Goldwings among other higher displacement bikes. It handles well, has 62 liters of storage under the seat. A glove box and two storage compartments in the dash. It is comfortable because you can put your legs in many different positions. Low center of gravity. Smooth as silk. Quiet. I can ride 500 miles in a day and could keep going comfortably if I wanted to. Can handle two up riding easily. It's a great bike.
@Nomen Clature Yes Sir. I added a top case too and some hard bags. I had 200 liters of storage. The center of gravity is super low. Handles great. Usable torque range. Just an all around great bike.
Here’s some truth coming from an owner of a 2008 Suzuki Burgman 650 motorcycle scooter. Now keep in mind I own a Harley Electra Glide Classic, a Honda Goldwing GL1800 and a Honda Reflex 250 motorcycle scooter. I enjoy riding all of them immensely. But the following information may surprise a few people. And just for the record, I have owned several other types of motorcycles in the past too to make this comparison.
For the most practical fun, handling and overall performance, I prefer riding the Suzuki Burgman the most. The seat is comfortable, the cornering abilities are fantastic, it has great styling, is 100% reliable, acceleration is beyond unbelievable, braking is very effective and excellent night lighting to see the road. The cargo space is huge (take it grocery shopping sometimes) and it is fuel efficient. I took the Suzuki to the Black Hills and road many of the twisty roads out there to compare handling. It was better than anything else in a motorcycle category. Got a few strange looks from other travelers because the idea of seeing a motorcycle scooter design in the Black Hills was a little odd for them. I didn’t mind. It was great fun and never had to worry about shifting either with the automatic transmission.
I take this Suzuki to lots of places. It’s great! Hope others get the opportunity to ride one someday.
Scooters are much more nimble than motorcycles because the engine is longitudinal and at the bottom of the bike.
Nothing wrong with a practical two wheeled vehicle that can filter through city traffic and park for free. Having plenty of storage space is a huge selling point. Just loved the wiggly ears, sorry, mirrors.
Scooters aren't cool in the US mainly because for most riders their motorcycle is a hobby, it's not their primary or only transportation.
Negative, scooters are cool in the US.
They are not as popular in the less progressive cities or towns, but in the Carolina's, New York, LA , San Fransisco, but in Mississippi and Alabama etc. they are a bit slow as those places are in every thing else.
Scooters are more popular than motorcycles in every other part of the world.
I think there's a lot of riders (especially the boomer Harley guys) who think because they got this huge expensive machine they take out when the weather's nice they can look down on people who ride anything different. It's kind of a bummer.
But hey! You're riding a motorcycle and since when is that about caring what other people think?
Grin big and keep the rubber side down.
@@MrGreenelight we may be slow but at least we aren't perverts.
Oh Caz...maybe not to you, but that is your opinion, and EVERYONE has one...
@@zugmeister314 I'm a boomer (70) but never got the Harley thing. Came up through scooters, but like the handling of bikes, too. So I got a used Aprilia Mana GT. It even has storage for my helmet in the "tank". I wonder if my fellow seniors are still living the myth of Easy Rider--- the knight on a horse. They couldn't get their rocks off on D&D or video games growing up because those things didn't exist. So they rode Harleys.
The Burgman is a beast! Hubby and I have owned two 200's, two 400's and we still have a 650 😍
Nice
Mmmmmmkkkaaaaayyyy....
whats wrong with scooter bro? most of the scooter user are more responsible than other type of bike user.
Covering your speedometer with a Bible verse might be the greatest thing I’ve ever seen
Great review. I get a lot of astonishment from people when I ride my Burgman. I go riding with friends who have Harley's, cruisers, KTM, BMWs, etc... They are always surprised at how easily I keep up with them. Then when we stop to eat, they are envious that I can stash all my gear inside it. For me, I use it mostly to commute and its the perfect city with freeways commuter, but I love that I can go on long rides all over the state with anyone.
Where do I get one?? Please tell me, can you order offline?
@@theamazingadventuresofjohn Just guessing, maybe a Suzuki dealer? you can even order one ON-line...
@@mudslinger888 thanks
Perfect commuter. You can get on the carpool or express lane, filter traffic, great gas mileage, cheap maintenance, cheap insurance and fun!
I honestly don't know why more people don't commute on two wheels, with these scooters there is no excuse!
I ride a hyabusa,and a TMAX. The TMAX is way superior for daily commuting on freeways & the odd bit of city streets. The Haya is a beast for the open road & weekend warrioring...😁😎😁
Tmax superior? To what? Definitely not the Burgman.
@@Triangulove Read my comment I compared the TMAX to the Hyabusa. I use both. 😎😁😎
@@Triangulove bruh tmax is way better
I own a 99 busa myself. I also have a piaggio 500 MP3. I also love my hayabusa but the 500 MP3 is a blast to ride. I put forward pegs on it and being able to stretch my legs makes a hide differences my next buy is the Honda nm4. Give it some mods and it should reach 120mph all day long. Gotta love the freedom of the ride.
I have a 500cc 2002 model tmax as my main way of transport.. I love it
I've owned a Burgman 650 and can vouch for this machine. Ridden it through 13 states and up to Toronto, Canada. Taken it to 100 mph many times with no problem. Smooth, amazingly comfortable, huge storage and very reliable. At over 600 pounds, it is superb at holding the road. Despite riding a Goldwing now...I still take it out for a spin from time to time. I highly recommend the Burgman. And sorry guy...it IS a motorcycle...just look up the definition. :-)
Awesome! Well said. 👍
Yea, in Florida my 150cc scooter is technically a motorcycle. Need to get the endorsement
I live in the North Carolina mountains. I was wondering if it rides well in the mountains?
@@thehooptytube If it handles well and has power, why wouldn't it? Of course it is. Just not a dirt bike.
@@thehooptytube It handles very well in the twisties. As far as unpaved roads go, anything up to logging roads is fine. I rode smaller scooters over a lot of gravel roads with more confidence than I would a sport-touring or even adventure-touring bike.
After 35 years on Harley, I finally sold my Roadglide and went with a Burgman 400. So
Much fun. Does well on the interstates. Rides great all around. My hips are shot. So this makes riding fun again. This 650 must be amazing.
I rode my 98 Road glide for years and pulled a big trailer. The seat height got the best of me with age. I'm looking at the 650. I hate not riding. That's my thinking time and space:)
try it and youre sold
Suzuki Burgman 650, the best maxiscooter to travel!!! 😊👍🏼
You should have shown huge storage compartment under the seat. That a big selling point.
Yup. It's a two wheel SUV.
Store all those maxi pads
@Green Lizard You could put a 1-year old under the seat ( I don't recommend it.)
annielfc In my gf’s Vespa 250, the under seat bucket has a warning not to carry living things in it.
@@mr7wi after that last reply, yours was kinda dark lol. but on a serious note, had an accident late last year car driver pulled out on me from a junction 2 months in hospitals,6 operations to date, provide fracture, dislocated hip, damaged knee, nerves and dropped foot, along with limited sensation in lower leg etc, was looking@one of these as no fit controls, of I've got to give up ahem bikes at least don't he to lose out enormously on performer .
I'm in the UK. Do they do a left-hand drive? 🤠
It's same for sll
I am PK. In UK you get centre hand drive
LOL!!!!! HAHAHA! Thats funny.luv it
why would you want LHD ? majority of uk vehicles are RHD. unless I went all stoopid or somesuch??
@@raymondo162 it was a joke!! Left hand drive on a scooter???? Get it now?
How can a motorbike guy be so clueless about motorcycles??
I bought a Burgman 650 Executive about 3 years ago and absolutely love it... Its affordable, versatile, comfortable and fun. I didnt buy it to race Harleys or lane split. I love the history and legacy of HD and other big engine touring bikes...but I wasnt interested in going in debt to purchase! Also burning my behind in the summer engine heat. Buying a HD is like purchasing an I phone...its a fashion statement.....look at me!....all in all...its a great bike....twist and go.......!
That's why you get an older one with the EVOLUTION motor. Reliable a d can be had at around 5k or less if ya look hard enough. Although I was looking at Silverwings and Burgmans too.
I have one..I like Harley's too...but this is great ...easy to ride and fast.....
Someone Brought one of these into the shop I work at.
It’s completely trashed, wouldn’t start, wheels were seized.
I spent about a day on it and now it runs great. I’m actually impressed
Sounds like a brag
@@jimmcmaster6227
Reads like you’re the one with a problem
😂
My favorite thing about my Burgman 650 is the seating position, feet to the slight front of you, and bars at such a nice position, I even sold my Goldwing and kept my Burgman.
Yet ANOTHER of WAY TOO MANY reviews in which the reviewer tries to pretend that he's too macho, too manly, or otherwise too good to ever ride and appreciate a "scooter". This scooter is a motorcycle in every sense of the word, the only difference is you don't have to throw your leg over and it's automatic, (which some motorcycles were as well) and slightly smaller tires. You offered absolutely nothing new in your video other than to say "hey, I'd never own one because my penis is too big (yeah right!), but if you're into this sorta thing, it's kinda cool." Yeah, thanks dude. sigh.
Knowing all the while that if "Mr. Cool" got honest with himself he would admit it's one of the few 2 wheeled machines with plenty of storage capacity to pack that big penis away in a locking compartment.
spot the scooter owner
@rumpleforeskin73 Hahahaha, that was hilarious! Seriously, made my morning! Maybe later when I have more time I'll respond in kind.
Man I’m tired of reviewers apologizing and complaining when reviewing scooters and minivans. People watching the videos are interested in the vehicles so stop complaining and do your job please. Thank you
I had a 650 Burgman just like that one. I have a biker bar 2 miles from my house. Whenever I got on the burgman, I would head over to the bar. I would wait for a Harley to leave and pull out behind him and pass him in front of all the guys out front. The guy would get on it and chase me I would leave him in the dust. Racing Harleys was my favorite pastime on the Burgman. I never even had one come close to beating me. I have owned many motorcycles and had my own repair shop for a few years so I can honestly say this is an unbiased opinion.
The definition of a scooter is a motorcycle with a step through frame. That’s all. They ARE motorcycles. Just not the motorcycles you like. Glad you still sell them and review them though.
that's an underbone motorcycle
So what you're saying is that it's like a bicycle; a "girls" bicycle
@@MikeNeri1
Over compensating for something? Lol
Mike Neri you know what girls like? Scooters. Some girls will get on my motorcycles. Every girl I meet asks to ride the scooter because it’s cute and it doesn’t scare them. So in that respect I agree with you. I won’t even leave home on the scooter without a second helmet. Chick. Magnet.
I have a Cub 70 an Elite 250 and a Yamaha FZ1 they all make me smile in some way .
Requirements for my taste:
1) Gets from Point A to Point B.
2) Makes the trip enjoyable.
If I had the money, I would buy either one of these scooters or a Can Am Ryker, which in my mind has an additional ''cool'' factor. Ride what you want to ride. Ride what you love to ride. Ride because you love riding.
'13 Burgman 650 owner here. Like others, I've ridden many bikes in my 61 years. This is the best one-up touring bike....EVER. Don't need to buy bags/panniers/top cases. Just throw your duffel under the seat and you are good for 2 weeks. 70mph all day long, getting 54mpg. Backroads 55mph, getting 65mpg. I can leave Harleys in my rear view mirror, no problem. Weather protection is superlative. Going crosscountry your WILL encounter rain. No problem on this bike, just keep riding til you're out of it, and you'll come out with wet elbows. I've ridden this "scooter" all over these United States, Canada, and into Mexico. At the end of the day, I just want more riding. It's that comfortable. So smooth I can drink my Starbucks latte on the interstate (yes, I have a cup holder). And the storage compartments in the dash? Man, you'd never believe how convenient those are for shades, wallet, maps, bottles of water, phone chargers, etc, etc. And reliability? Oil and tires, that's it. Best touring bike I've ever owned. No need to go back to a regular bike.
Probably the best and most
“ mature “ comment so far sir ! ( and thank you ) so I’m 64 and I had 2- Hondas , 1- BMW , and 13- Harleys . I’m intrigued with this Burgman bike . 6 spinal fusions , 2 knee surgeries , 3 triple shoulder surgeries . My neighbor is supposed to buy my brand new 2018 Low Rider ( 4,000 miles on it ) and I’m wondering if you tried the 400 before buying your 650 ?
@@rudeawakening3833I never tried the 400. Sat on them many times. Just has much less heft than the 650. My guess is that it would get blown around more when passing trucks. Also, one BIG difference is that the 400’s CVT works by centrifugal forces. The 650 is electronically controlled. Translates into a much calmer ride when tooling around at lower speeds. The 400 has to wind up all the time. I had the BMW scooter for a while. It too worked centrifugally. Always wound up no matter how fast or slow your speed. The Burgman is the Lexus of motorcycles!!
@@rollingstone3017
Thanks for your reply . They don’t make the 650 I’m told ?
Thanks man 😆buy T-Max 530 or BURGMAN 650?
Now I’m sure ! BURGMAN 650 it’ll be my next one ! 😍
Cheers from Japan 🇯🇵
I'm reaching my 40s and my sport bike (GSX-R 1000 K1) isn't so fun anymore. I just want to cruise and sightsee now in comfort. So I can see me getting a scooter for weekends and beach runs.
2:10 Europeans city road are small and filtering and parking those folding mirror will be a great feature.
My father was a life long BMW rider, an avid touring rider. One day I came by the house and there, to my total shock was a 650 Burgman sitting in the garage. Actually, Dad hadn't been riding BMW's for a number of years. As time went on, BMW's got heavier, harder to work on, and a lot more expensive so he took to riding smaller, lighter machines. He settled on a 650cc single cylinder standard motorcycle called an MZ and loved it. So, as I said, I dropped by the house and there's this Suzuki Burgman scooter. Turns out, he was finding it harder and harder to swing his leg over the MZ, especially when he had it loaded up for a trip. He had heard about the Burgman, checked it out, and bought one. He rode that bike all over the US for the next 7 to 8 years and loved it. It was still a 650 so I figured, that the heck! One thing about it though, while it is definitely styled like a scooter, it's not a conventional scooter. Traditional scooters, like the old Vespas and smaller Yamaha's and Honda's have the engine and drive train built into the rear suspension and swing arm. Suzuki's 650 Burgman's engine and transmission are laid out more like a true motorcycle with the engine and transmission forward under the foot boards. The interesting part is the final drive. It's not a belt or shaft as you might imagine but a set of gears placed in order from the output shaft of the transmission back to the rear tire. It's strange but it works. That Suzuki wound up being my Dad's last motorcycle that he did any significant distance riding on. It was a good bike for him.
Ive had most every bike out there. I test rode one of these not long ago and was very impressed. Just might add one to my collection. I was very impressed.
The Burgman 650 is a fine little machine and is much more capable than it's "scooter" persona would imply. I got to ride my fathers a couple of times through the years. I wasn't totally comfortable on it basically because of a lack of experience with it but I could see why my Dad liked it.
You're so right. By today's standards the Burgman is a relatively simple bike. The power-train layout is traditional and down low. The styling is more like a motorcycle with a relaxed position for the rider and passenger. That plus the fact that in almost all cases, just as reliable as a hammer. I don't mind doing some wrench time but as I get older, riding time is far more enjoyable than wrenching. One of the things that did sell me was the final drive. No belt, no chain and aside from an oil check on occasion, maintenance free. Gears spinning in oil. Whuda thunk it?? I have another sport touring bike again as my riding habits have again changed but the Burgman has a place in my garage still. I get a fair amount of ribbing when I ride on some benefit rides but when out of the group it takes a pretty good sport bike to get away from me. They ain't fast by any standard I know of but there are a lot more popular slower bikes out there. All that and I can bring home a weeks worth of groceries without even thinking about where to carry them.
Steven, don't feel the need to make excuses for him riding a scooter ("It was still a 650...it's not a conventional scooter...")
It doesn't matter what he rode, whether it was a tiny Honda Monkey bike or a 2300cc Triumph. The important thing is he was still out there enjoying the road.
You need to do a road trip on a big scooter. Not to prove anything to anyone but yourself. Riding a scooter (big or small) does not define your sexuality, just as riding a Harley doesn't make you tough.
I'm proud of your father; he changed machines to reflect his ability. In doing so he managed to keep riding. More the power to him.
@@68404 - wow dude. You really know how to read a LOT of BS into stuff I never said. I wasn't making excuses for my Dad in any way, shape, or form. The bike he traded off of to get the Suzuki was a 650. Until he rode the Burgman home, I didn't know they made a scooter styled bike with that big an engine. I was just glad it had the same displacement range as the bike he got rid of. I didn't want to see him riding cross country on something 400cc's or smaller. It can be done, but I was a lot more comfortable knowing he was on something that had a little better chance of keeping up with traffic. And where in the world did I say anything about sexuality?? That's your interpretation. Please don't try to lay it on me. Given the overall tone of your reply, I think we're probably not that far apart in our attitudes in such things. I don't care who you are or what you ride. One doesn't have anything to do with the other. That you "ride," is the important part! My Dad rode as long as he could. I will always be proud of that. The part that I was even more proud of, was the fact that he was sharp enough to recognize when it was time to give it up. One thing I most dreaded was the possibility of having to fight him to get him to quit riding but that situation never materialized. He did it on his own and I will forever be grateful for that. I lost my Dad on December 15, 2016. Watching Srkcycle's video on the 650 Burgman just brought back a lot of great memories. That's why I felt compelled to respond here.
I've ridden the 400 and the Executive. I'm a traditional motorcycle rider, myself. But I always get excited when I see a Burgman either on the road or parked in the lot. My mom still has the Executive as a trike, no less. I'm a big fan of them. I think they have a place in just about any stable.
Here’s the thing, if you’re riding in the open air, who gives a fuk whether it’s called a scooter, maxi scooter, motorcycle, or flying carpet...same internal experience regardless of wheel size
The Big Suzuki scooter is just to get you from a to b to c with minimal fuss. It doesn’t have the sound or anything special but it gets you there and makes you wonder what the fuss was ....
I have rode bikes for years and this year took the plunge into scooter territory ..Got myself the burgman 650 and use it for comuting to work and longer highway runs two up with the wife on board ...brilliant handling machine and for me a revelation...only downside is the snotty attitude from other riders who deem scooter riders not worthy enough for a nod or chat .....I took great delight the other day thrashing a big tourer...
it's difficult to know if a scooter rider will nod back at you or will have no clue what you just did haha
They need to rely on the attitude because they cannot rely on their Harleys.
@@tettazwo9865
Not ALL Harley riders ( or the machines ) are crap …
Scooters are underrated. Comfort, convenience, and good mileage. Ugly? Yes, unless you mod the life out of it. But so relaxing to drive.
Here in europe they are all over i have a Yamaha t-max 530 it's the King of scooters
There was a bit of a boom for a while here in Puerto Rico with the off-brand GY6 Chinese scooters. The aftermarket for it was huge with parts from Taiwan. As far as big scooters tho, it never really caught on. I’m a huge fan of the big japanese custom scooter scene. Wish we had em, I’d love to load one out with toys 😈
I have a 2015 650 and love it. Quiet. Smooth. Drive interstate speeds. great to run to the store. Such a blast to ride. Upgraded the windshield. Added some farkels. and BOOM! Love this bike. I have others but it gets most of my time.
And yes, the Speedo is off 6-10 mph at higher speeds. Some people darkside or go with a larger tire and say it corrects it. There are methods of correcting. I just use a GPS and it shows me the actual speed I'm going.
You just look like you have a "domesticated" partner waiting for you at the house......lol
@@DRSmith-wq4td because your "man-hood" is based on stepping on a lever and then pulling with your toe.... yikes, rough to be so shallow... lol
What are farkels and which windshield did you buy? I'm looking to buy my neighbors 2014 650 abs but she's asking 5800 with 15k miles
Does it hold up well and not breakdown all the time? I had a vespa 150 and it has problems overheating and didn't like to go more than 15 miles at a time.
I had one. I put a trunk on it, and road it as you would a touring bike. I had it to 105 once. 😎 You won’t find a better scooter, I mean motorcycle.
Why are you hating scooters?? I LOVE my killer Honda NSS 300. just drive.. no shifting. Smooth as glass. In destructible Honda engine fuel injected.. had more fun on that than anything. Kick that JUNK Harley to the curb!! Love my HONDA NSS 300.
It's a feet -forward motorcycle with wind protection, great braking and handling, and a superb engine and transmission. What's not to like?
This has been my favorite bike I’ve ridden. It’s such a nice ride.
I had the bergman 400. First bike ever owned. Had almost 80k on it when I traded it in. I had of course had the tires go put on every so.ofyen but the drive belt was the only major thing I had go do was replace the drive belt. Loved thst 400.
Actually... the Suzuki Burgman 650 has a frame-mounted engine coupled with a pivoting swing-arm, same as a "traditional" motorcycle. Scooters have their engines mounted on the swing-arm, so... it's really a motorcycle in scooter clothing 🤷♂️
@2:08 - First of all, you need it to drive it into the hotel rooms with you at night. Second of all, we bikers who stay in shady hotels have been doing that for years....but not the "hit the button and the mirror folds in" thing on that one. I'm totally going to buy a Burgman now!!!
You do know that scooter can beat those Harley's in a drag race, right? :)
Anything can beat a harley in a drag race 🤣
@@rods535 Yeah. Even a drag Queen.
Harley's are overweight and underpowered.
Like many of the people who ride them.
My wife had one it will fool you. It got up to speed quickly so It can surprisingly keep up with bigger bikes. Its silky smooth and with that CVT transmission it never seems to working hard. In power mode I believe it has a series of pulleys that electronically changed positions for a quicker response which also created higher RPM's. My wife lost interest in riding it so I sold it. But it was trouble free and ran perfectly. Its a very well made machine.
These have been around for years in Europe. You see them in all the cities. Hence the folding mirrors.
I had a 650, so I know what it will do. I went from SF Bay Area to San Diego. She kicked butt!
Burgmans rock, I love those things.
Scooters are great, ride them all day long and not be fatigued.
If I was on a Harley 883 and a scooter blew my doors off. I would trade it in for a super sport immediately xD
Blocked User 🤣😂🤣😂... exactly
Have you go your supersport yet ?
Lol Got two , R1 and CBR1000RR
I had a 883 Harley and my 400 Yamaha was much faster, it would hit 160 k no problem. Going in to a head wind or up hills on the 883 slowed it down quite a bit but never bothered the 400, Good luck shopping. And by the way the dealer said it was one of the fastest stock 883 he had ridden, and they sold a lot of them.
If I had an 883 I'd cut my balls off to fit in with all the other 883 riders.
I've done 120 mph on a Burgman 650.i think the speedo goes up to 130. when i saw that I laughed, and then my dad said it will do it go try...... 120 on a scooter is hauling ass!!!!!
I would be terrified
I've had 2 Suzuki bikes. They're usually off around 12% on purpose. That 120 was probably more like 105-108.
Same. 120 mph
@Mr.J I use a speedo app on my phone
The Burgman 650 is known to show the correct mileage but the speed reads 10% high. To go 60 you aim for 66, for 70 you indicate 77, etc. I did a test (in a safe location, of course) on mine, using roadside radar and onboard GPS, and it maxed out at an indicated 118MPH, and both the radar and the GPS said I was actually going 106MPH. 10% of 118 is 11.8, and 118-11.8=106.2.
The best "scooter" ever! That being said, give me anything on 2 wheels and you will make me happy, better if it has an engine ( bad knees)! 🤫
I have owned Harleys, Goldwings, Triumph and...My favorite is My 2005 Burgman 400 single :-)
I have a 2007 and a 2012 400 Burgman.......Great little scooter
Scooters are like fat chicks. A lot of fun but you don't want your friends to see you riding one....
😅👏
I remember Cycle World Magazine doing a full review of this machine.
Gave it outstanding reviews. Comfort, power, handling, storage, weather protection all well done.
Ran into a group of them at a rally. All loved it.
A very well done machine. Especially with ABS. Great value.
Ive got a 2009 exec, its my daily rider and i absolutely love it.
Back in the day, when the Gixxer Slingshot was all the rage, i had the Suzi and a Honda Helix scooter. The Helix was a blast. 75mph top speed was as fast as I'd want to go on a 10" x 2.5" rear rim. And the trunk... huge; perfect for groceries. It held about the same as the panniers on an FJR1300.
I love my burgman AN 650 .. recent 1500 euro parts end to end service rebuild . 76 years old and needing to downsize Yamaha NS125. .. Got to sell my Suzi first .. check it out on display in Moto Evora Yamaha ..
I know I've left a comment on here about the Burgman although I'm not sure where in the 1,467 other comments it is. but just a reminder the power button only works in automatic mode above 60 mph. and the 650 executive will out run the Harley Davidson 883. What was HD thinking building a bike that only has a top speed of 90 mph out of the create? I've had my 2011 650 Executive to 115 mph. needless to say I've converted about 6 HD riders so far. Also the burgman 650 executive is technically a mislabeled motorcycle it should have been labeled a step through motorcycle. (Google the definition of a scooter.)
Dude, scooters are SUPER FUN!!! I'll ride anything with 2 wheels and an engine and have fun.
I've been riding for 35 years and for me, as far a daily riders go, scooters are superior for around town work. You can actually carry stuff on a scooter!
Does it come in a liter Hayabusa version? Pure hooligan baby!
best all-around bike or scooter BY FAR....... I have owned in 50 years and dozens of different two-wheelers
My mother bought me a 2018 Suzuki 125 scooter, it is only 8.7 hp, I have to go market and grocery bring stuffs home so couldn't go for a bike (also can't ask mom cause shy, I am grateful for what she gave me out of love). I envied my friends for having motorcycles but soon after I started riding it, I felt fun. Two wheels are fun right? Whenever I get on it I feel like, it's okay, am having fun. I went on a 286 miles (457 KM) ride on my scooter lol and I really enjoyed it. Next time when I will buy a bike on my own I hope I will find the difference in fun of riding a motorcycle and scooter. I don't know why I am typing this here lol. Great video. Thank you.
I test drove a 2007 650cc Burgman. It is a neat scooter, but it is VERY VERY VERY different from a motorcycle! I say that, because, on flat, straight smooth ground, I had both hands off the bars for less than One Second, and at about 50 mph the bars shook so bad, and so fast, I couldn't regain the bike and laid it down. That is the first time I've ever had a wreck or fall on any motorcycle. And I have ridden for over 20 years. I will never encourage someone to ride one of these.
I rode a Burgman and loved it. I could see living on Maui and having one for my only vehicle.
Had a 2010 Exec and miss it dearly. A relative totaled it. I also have a GL1500 Gold Wing and Yamaha 650 Maxim. The Suzuki is great as a commuter. When you have stop and go traffic, the CVT is great. When they have factory cruise control, I'll buy another one.
Don't let relatives ride your machines.
I'm not a religious person myself, but I appreciate your 'words of wisdom' segments.
Also, do a Triumph Thruxton R.
I don't. I give the video a thumbs down because of the bible recitation
You realise how useless God, when you're involved in a motorcycle/motor vehicle accident.
well then do not ride a bike si ssy
well pray to lucifer and see what works out better
@@68404 That makes you an idiot. Think about it. Have a thought, move on.
hello from Dublin,
I bought the very first Piaggio X9 brought into Ireland back in 2000.
It was powered by a Honda Foresight 250 engine and CVT drivetrain as Piaggio had not finished their own unit by the release of the first gen machine.
It cost me ir£4500 including reg tax...I can still remember leaving the showroom straight into busy traffic along the river Liffey...now that's what you call getting thrown into the deep end.
After the 2018 goldwing, I think it’s fair to call this a motorcycle. What’s the difference, floorboards? You can outfit a goldwing with those. Something between your legs? This scooter does have a bump in the middle, and after having one I can say it’s pretty substantial.
I bought a brand new 650 in 2014, still ride it, still love it
Let me borrow it
Yes the Burgervan is a fine scooter, but the Yamaha T-max is way cooler
Mike Kitterhing yep, l love my 15 Tmax with a j costa variator. Eats burgmans for lunch! Oh, and I'm nearly 50 and have owned or rode most everything.
Love to be given a "V" Max and let the poseurs engage in the cycle vs. scooter debate up in the spectator side at the dragstrip. While they watch me destroy every American made V Twin i line up against.
The tmax out handles and out runs the Burg but shame about the storage, the Burgs weather protection is also better. It is an old argument down to personal choice but for me, the Burg wins.
Tmax is the most fun and coolest motorcycle-like scooter. period.
What about the xmax would you choose that or the tmax
After owning Suzuki and Honda 1000s I went to the Burgy 650 and that was tops. So comfortable and easy to ride. I never before put 22K miles on any one bike but that was a breeze.
Have owned Harley BMW Suzuki Honda bikes now at age 78 looking for something smaller and easier, so just bought a Honda PCX 150 and absolutely love it, 😁
I love being on two wheels, motorcycle or scooter doesn't matter it's about riding open air wind in your face, I love my Honda shadow ACE, I'd also love to find a vintage 1965 Vespa 180 super sport , they are bad a$$😎
The brake system is something else. It's got great speed, I believe it displays/gets up to 120 mph, but if you don't have a decent brake system that goes with it, then your toast... and being a Suzuki, this thing has it all. You have never driven a scooter til you drive this thing. I've rode both the 650 and 400, but I believe they also make a 200 model, which I haven't rode. Decent for excursions, A to B travels. You'll definitely turn some heads at the beach with this thing. It's kinda funny, but the laughs are on them when you your conveniently drive to and fro with this little bad boy.
It's not what you ride ...it's as long as you ride😂
Some motorcyclists are such asses about what to ride and what is a “real” bike and all that nonsense. Too bad that the 2 wheel family can not accept other types of bikes. Is this stuff really about insecurities? Ride what feels good. That’s what it’s about isn’t it? My first bike was a Burgman 400. Corey, perhaps you’ll make it to age 60, unless you run your mouth at the wrong dude.
Senior citizens who display their real name and picture on the net are real dumb azzes!
Corey Slater What about people who use fake names and pictures then talk shit and try to insult people?
Ed Victory You mean Some Motorcyclists. I'll ride anything with two wheels and will do freeway speeds.
40mmrrsmith I stand corrected. But I stand by my comments for the most part. See the reply to my comments as an example. Keep the rubber down.
I just hope the dude i run my mouth to is a scooter guy!
Put a little lucas fuel treatment in the gas and enjoy the super speed and power.I rode mine back in 2014 from West Palm Beach to New York City.This a real comfortable Maxi Scooter,designed specially for highways,i also had the 400 and they are both excellent
Man you better be careful riding that thing, people might get the wrong idea and start thinking you're in one of them motor scooter gangs!
We're savage
@@noisepuppet Some of us have black belts that hold our pants up.
Google scooter gang attacks
Scooter gangs are a thing in some countries.
In the UK that is not so funny. Scooter gang members are vicious criminals. In London the police now have a policy of running them over. The threat from them is considered sufficient enough that hitting them with a police car at speed is considered "reasonable force".
So BMW can't be bothered to install a power windscreen on their 25 grand R1200GS ADV bikes, but Suzuki puts like the best power windscreen ever on an 11 grand scooter (yes a new Burgman 650 is that expensive). You could easily tour on that thing, and I've seen people with touring setups on them. The ultimate sleeper, looks as dorky as any scooter, but will pull away from a lot of cruisers, and will outcorner most cruisers haha, also has the room, storage and highway performance to tour haha.
Used to tour two up with camping gear on my Mk 1 Burgman 400 no problems.
I would love to see a sleeper trailer mounted on the back of a Burgman 650.That would be great for a New York to Florida run.
Actually i think the Burgman is pretty futuristic and cool looking.
And probably get 60 mpg also.
This video is over 2 years old. Don't know how I missed it until now. In 2015 I bought a 2008 Burgman 400. My wife and I rode over 1500 miles to Colorado and back. The next year we went from Texas to Cincinnati and back. The next year, we decided why not. We drove from Texas to Washington State, down the West Coast to San Francisco, Las Vegas, Grand Canyon and back to Texas. These bikes are super comfy, have great power (even the 400 with two up) and are loads of fun. I still feel like people are like, why a scooter, and don't give me respect? But I just remember how much fun I am having. We bought a 2007 Yamaha Royal Star motorcycle and went to Washington D.C. and down the East Coast in 2018. It was fun but not as fun, and on our way back through Texas my wife almost had a heat stroke from the engine/exhaust heat coming off the bike onto her. You don't get that with a scooter.
Another thing you don't get is your boots full with water if you go though a puddle.
That is an amazing story , you AND your wife going those distances !
Good for you , young man !
I found a 3-year old Burgman 200 yesterday for $5k, which is exactly what it sold for when new. Just like with cars, I’m going to avoid dealerships.
I don't know if I would trust it as far as reliability. Knew a guy that twice bought Bergman 400s, had trouble with both. The dealership's mechanics would not work on them.
Man, I'm thinking about getting one of these for my wife. Would be nice if my best friend in life was a riding partner instead of a passenger.
Yes me and my husband ride
I am a baby rider only 2k miles under my belt
But I ride my Vespa I just prefer the style and look of Vespa
150 he has his Harley
I can get it up to 65-70 Ish max