“I Was on £2,500 a Week” How Money Changed Football - Mark Lawrenson
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I found Lawro boring and flat. There was no fun in him. He is very out of touch and not a victim
You thought correctly. 👍
I wasn't a Liverpool supporter,but i was privileged too see Lawro's era.What a team!
The price of buying a home in the 1980's was 30k to 40k. Lawro was making good money if he had invested it.
He loves in the same neighbourhood as Jurgen Klopp so he isn't skint
I had a good job in the 80s at £150 a week.To get £2500 would be millionaire status to me!
Factoring in inflation that was £10k a week. Or half a million a year. Back when a house cost about £15000. Not as much as today but by no means a trivial sum.
true but some of the money players is on is silly, for playing a sport kicking a ball around.
theres homeless out there not getting any help, the world is upside down imo
Mbappe gets over 4 million a month.
@@johnmitchell2269that's one player, not the norm
no one cares about the homeless, it's just virtue signalling...@@clockworkman8210
£10k a week. Most premier league players today wouldn't even get out of bed for ten grand a week, such is the money they get paid for (in many cases) not contributing much to their clubs.
While the rest of us were on 150 quid a week
In 1984 I earned zilch being a striking coal miner but luckily for me the following year after we'd returned to work I was able to earn just under 7k, and that was coal face top earner money 😳 so don't feel too sorry for him 😁
Hats off well said mate, I'm from same era.
In 1984, us postmen were on £95 a week, just a fiver short of smashing through the £100 barrier. A lot of my wages were going towards Lawrenson's wages through the Anfield turnstiles. But they were well worth it with all the success on the field.
I'm a liverpool fan and agree with you entirely , I was about 15 quid a week on a yts which went up to 25 notes a year later,my heart bleeds for lawrenson, mind you he was one of liverpool's most underrated players for me ,I did see him put a tackle in on Alan Brazil who had rounded grobelaar and had an open goal and lawrenson came from nowhere to put it out for a corner,great player ,I digress 😊
To be fair £2500 a week back in the 80’s was good money, you could buy a 3 bed semi for 20k.
It’s good money now 😂
Probably still can in certain areas,
in liverpool you could buy a house a week on 2500K..!
I remember someone saying Charlie Chaplin was making 12 grand a week over a hundred years ago
Man said back in the day 80s 😂 how much you on now bro 5 k a week
£110k in 1984 was an awful lot of money. So put the violins away.
People of Liverpool please take note, your footballers were/are fans of Thatcher.
everyone was when she cut taxes and made it worthwhile ofr businesses and corporations to invest and create wealth, jobs, etc.
I've read that only Michael Robinson and Paul Jewell were labour party supporters in the Anfield dressing room during the 80's. The players were very higher earners even back in the day so it was always going to be Thatcher who would look after them.
£2.5k in the 80s was an absolute fortune ffs
1982 £ 25 p week YTS training job , 6 months later full wage £ 46 then later I was taxed , it was shite money for the graft we did and I never had enough, weekend overtime was £2 an hour
For the 1980's that's great money per week
lol IKR bruv that was the most ridiculous out of touch thing lawro said.... moaning at at 2 and a half grand a week which was mega money back in the 80s, he could've invested in dozens of the most expensive mansions and stately homes in Cheshire on the money he was on in the 80's (no doubt the banks would give him seven figure mortgages as well with collateral from property portfolio so he could buy even more properties) that would be worth over £70m now so maybe he should've invested the money correctly instead of whining about his 'low' pay.
Main reason players from Lawrenson era not swimming in cash is because they didn't invest or have (like todays players) accountants to manage their wealth and agents (thanks to bosman ruling) who can negotiate better contracts and terms for the players.
I have no pity for karens who got paid more than 99% of the UK population moaning about low pay compared to today's players.
As the saying goes "a fool and his money are soon parted"
A great centre back, week in and week out. He and Alan Hansen were an impressive and very successful duo.
Hansen was world class
@@richardevans7035So was Mark , a great full back.
Yea and the average industrial wage was about 100 quid a week.😅
Remember the average pay per week back in early 80s was circ £130 per week. So they were still handsomely paid back then. Which is still 2000% better than the average.
Poor lad! £2500 a week. What Lawro didn't mention was that he was probably on win bonuses, free cars, free food and many other endorsements and perks. I was a time served tradesman earning £76 per week and I never felt the benefits of Thatcherism - totally the opposite. He was a great player mind.
if you are earning £2,500 and the government is taking nearly £2,000 of it every week and your carreer is going to be over by 30 or 32 as most footballers did then would you not be questioning it.?
So in his best year he earned £343,000 in todays money and paid 83% in tax on the bulk of it leaving £58k in his pocket. Still a lot of money but it was a short career and not all footballers had the sense to manage their money sensibly as Lawro said.
I've never really got my head around whether footballers pay is obscene or good value for money given the entertainment they provide for millions of people. It's market forces I guess?
@@trevorbaldwin1 the higher tax rate was anything over 80k
@@realcapitalist1462 I haven't seen the whole video yet but I don't think Lawrenson would have paid 83% tax on £343,000. He was not a top player until the mid 1980s. Thatcher became Prime Minister in 1979 when he was still a developing player at Brighton. By the mid 1980s around 60% for employees.
@@BurnsTennis No that's true and I didn't bother factoring personal allowance and tax thresholds but as munaali has pointed out the higher tax rate started at £80k. Lawro did refer to his "best" year so I took that to be when he was winning European cups with the Reds.
Income tax in 1984 was 50%
104.000 in 1984 is now 322k
A retired football getting divorced after retirement… what a shock .. the women were certainly never just after the money lol
Or he’s home all day under each others feet
@@deathbystereo- stay naive to the world around you bro
@@ActiveArronit has nothing to do with being naive to the world pal lol, you’re just implying that every woman is a money grabber which although in some cases is true its not always true, there is much more nuance to a relationship as to why it falls apart, you saw it during the pandemic where relationships were breaking down because the dynamics of the household drastically changed and people were forced to spend more time with each other than they’d previously had. Mental health also comes into play which alot of professional athletes suffer in retirement, so this blanket statement that all women are evil is stupid and shows where your mindset is at.
@@kiely4561 your trying to sound clever but not really saying anything at all
@@ActiveArron for starters pal its “you’re” trying to sound clever, there’s nothing hard to understand about what I’m saying…even for your level of intelligence.
Willie Miller was on £200 a week at Aberdeen as they conquered Europe in this time period. Source: autobiography
In his book Ronnie Whelan said he never got more than 750 pounds per week pre Premier league era. Niall quinn was on 375 pounds per week in 1990 at arsenal. I was earning 450 pw labouring on the building sites in london. Not everyone was on big money.
He was never paying 83% of his earnings in tax.
That's not how the system worked.
Thatcher reduced it to 60% in 1980. Lawrenson was playing for Brighton in 1980. Jackanory Lawrenson.
@rstevens7711 bang on, also 83% is a marginal rate over a certain income threshold so its not like he was paying 83% on every quid earnings plus didn't (like most footballers then) do the smart thing and hire an accountant to lower their tax exposure so he only has himself to blame for not playing the taxing system.
No the 83% only kicks in once you have earned so much and paid tax at the lower rate so most of his salary would be less. Just like the higher tax brackets work today.
@@imposs-up1hg Top rate of tax for high earners reduced to 60% in 1988. It was controversial at the time to say the least. Thatcher's whole purpose was to transfer wealth from the majority to the rich. The rest is smoke and mirrors. Job done with the support of gullible working people on low incomes who voted against their own self interest throughout the eighties and in 1992 when they had the chance to reverse Thatcherism but instead embraced it after all the damage it had done in destroying Britain.
Still a massive wage then when compared to the wage of an average worker . To say that footballers must be paid obscene wages because their working life is shorter is illogical because if they have four top of the range luxury cars in their drive and live in very expensive houses and still have a fortune left over every week then go elsewhere for sympathy because the working man can just as easily have a short working life through injury or being made redundant .
My Dad was born in 1920 and was a lifelong Charlton Athletic supporter. Back in the day CAFC were a top flight club and won the FA Cup in 1947. He told me that the players were held in awe by the fans because they earned double what a typical factory worker earned. He also said that the players would travel home after the match on the same trams as the fans.
£2500 in 1985 was worth about £9.5k a week in 2024 thats a pretty good salary in either era
The huge difference now though is that the average premier league player will be on £100k a week due to the huge amount of Sky money pumped into today's game.
How horrible it would be for footballers on £250,000 per week if top rate tax over £1m a year was 83%. They would have to struggle along on £2,300,000 a year.😂😂😂
...which would be fine if the tax was spent properly.
Lawrenson is talking absolute garbage, income tax was NOT set at 83%, that is crap. You would have been taxed at 83% for earnings OVER a certain amount, and taxed at a lower rate beneath that. That's still very high, but he is trying to say that he was only keeping 17 pounds out of every 100 he earned and that is bullshit.
Yep. One would have also thought slightly foolish to pubically brag about celebrating Thatcher when he's considered a Liverpool legend.
It's very significant off course if a large part of your wage is subject to such a high tax percentage in which case the essence of the point he is making remains.
True enough
@@italkedtobarzini4015
Lawrenson was a footballer not a Chartered Accountant.
@@LDBROOKS Even a footballer should be able to understand that they are not losing 83% of their entire income to the government in tax.
Rushie should have hired Joey Barton as an interpreter 😂
Watched him 4 corby whence was 40 ,class act
Lawrenson makes out that he was poor on £2500/week. I was earning less than £100/week so even in those days footballers were well paid.
He never said he thought he was poor lol, he mentioned in the video he was on really good money and that you can only be a person of your time when asked about what players earn today, the comparison wasn’t about what the average joe was earning compared to league one footballers it was a comparison to how the game has moved on financially by today’s standards.
I remember hearing Stevie Nicol interviewed and he was apparently on £350 a week when he won the EC in '84...Haaland probably wipes his *rse on £50 notes.....
He played for my local team Moreton Town in the hellenic league before he retired
Be happy with what you earn or change your career there's always an alternative
I remember paying 33% tax in 1981 it was shocking
You must have been earning well !!!
The poll tax in scotland was worse
A large family of 7 mum dad 5 children working age paying 7poll taxes and next door neighbour 1 person paying 1 poll tax.Thats what destroyed maggie. Trial it in scotland also for a year.
@william_marshal that was the basic rate in 1981, basic rate now is 20%
And vat was 8%, it’s 20% now!
There are millions of people who would love that kind of money today - a click bait headline 😮
I'd love to be paid £2,500 a week in 2024, a lot of people today don't earn that in a month either!!!
Lawro is a legend ❤
Mark's predictions for premiership scores was good, wonder if he's doing it on any other site.
On the BBC website 😮
2.5k was a fortune then and for average working person you've made it if you earn 2.5k a week now.
I was earning 25£ a week in 1984 on a YTS scheme so he was rich as fuck on his money
Great player
When football was football!
Mark was part of a fabulous team I had the pleasure of watching many times over the years, he is a fairly laid back character and also says it as it is tbh, nothing wrong with that, if the truth hurts then dont ask a question, stay healthy pal and keep them podcasts coming, really miss you on the goggle box.
I totally agree and I'm a man United fan
In 1974 the rate was 83,,% so Lawro is right ...17pence left out of every £1 earned .....
83 pence in the pound for anything over the personal income tax threshold.
You can't shut ex-footballers up these days for love or money. They can't stop chirping their bollocks off to keep their faces on the telly and keep the money coming in. Shame they didn't spill the beans back in the day; would have made it a bit more transparent to fans to know who was paid what and also to find out the dirty on their team mates. Bit late now to be chirping.
Come on mark s the only kne talks sense,,,people don,t lke honesty ,,,,plus he was an excellent footballer, ,who won everything,,
Keep quiet Lawrenson a proper footie player Dixie Dean was on 1s/6p a week and 2 bob for a win bonus!
Most players never find anything to replace the buzz of playing, that's why some turn to drink or drugs. All that money but retired in your thirties, what do you do ?
What do you do? Get another job.
You can do anything you want ,you have all the time and money but most footballers aren’t the brightest bulb in the house are they ?
The Liverpool fans will be burning pictures of him at the next home game, C
I thought footballers' agents looked after their finances, pensions etc. Unless not all players had agents then.
There should 100 percent be a pay cap on players wages there almost bankrupting there clubs
Years ago it meant more to play football now it just feels like 22 millionaires having a kick about speciialy if your watching abu dhabi city .
Adjust for inflation and that’s the equivalent of £500,000 a year in todays money. Yep, small compared to today’s ludicrous salaries but still not to be sniffed at.
You did well lawro, i was a bricke , head down arse up for 25 quid a day .
Dont get married whatever your job lose the lot ...
2500 a week in 1984 is about 10k a week in 2024 money. Or 40,000 pounds a month.
2500 a week is still a lot of dough
Having listened to a couple of interviews with him it's clear he's a bit of a cooker.
No surprise as being on Merseyside, back then, it was clear he wasn't well liked. Some liked the player but not the man. 🤷
Oh piss off ,Lou Macari was on £55 a week in 1971,Times change but you were doing fine !
Not being funny but 20 years on and I’m still only earning a third of what you earnt Lawro
Unless you're posting from a time machine in 2004, it's 40 years on.
If you think it’s only 20 years on, that’s probably the reason you’re earning so little 😂😂😂
Great player for Liverpool. That’s about it. Very boring personality, boring pundit.he had a very good run as a pundit.
It would have perhaps been a good idea to get a grown-up to do the interview.
Loved Lawro on Motd ,he always spoke truth ,great player too
He looks like he's been dead for three months.
A lot of this 'back in my day' whining...look at the positives: The cost of living was much cheaper. There were no agents to take a cut out of your pay. You didn't have to worry about being caught chasing birds on social media.
I like mark , but remind us what the average wage was for the working man at this time..
£6200 per year in 1985.
@@ricardovosse3841 so he didn't do so bad.
I’m not understanding the criticism, Mark never once said he was hard done by in this video, he’s fully aware he was earning good money for the time, the question was asked as a comparison to what footballers earn today and how much the game has changed financially, most of you are just being triggered by the title without actually taking the time to watch the video.
@@kiely4561 yeah I understand but isn't it good to put a statement like that into context. It's not criticism. Just context..and I did watch it all the fact I picked on this statement would highlight this ..just pointing out that the players in the 80s earned alot more then the fellas that payed to watch them.
£2.500 per week to play bloody football and he thinks he was hard done by? Amazing!
He never once said he was hard done by did you even watch the video or just read the title 😂
He was a very very boring pundit. Why moan when you have been paid over the odds for doing not much by the BBC. I don't want to pay a license fee to make these people rich. The man has made hundreds of thousands of pounds from the BBC.
Great Player In His Time.
Lawrenson giving the poor mouth. 2500 a week and most people living on below 100. Give me a break.
worst pundit ever.
Lawro played here..... th-cam.com/video/0JjlG0tbir4/w-d-xo.html Not a bad workplace!
Lucky him when we are scrimping a petty wage in a care home in charge of human lives and get paid peanuts for the stress implied by CQC pen pushers pressure on us poor carers and crap foreign workers who cannot do the job
Paid a fortune by the BBC for years anyway ...so loaded
How much were the vast majority of those who worshipped the team he played in being paid? It seems that all he thinks about is number one. What an incredibly selfish and ungrateful man.
Lots of jealous comments on here about Lawro, the top players were paid well but it wasn't ludicrous like today. Being part of those great Liverpool teams I think he deserves every penny.
Half of all footballers get divorced or go bankrupt within 5 years of retirement
Nicested ex footballer I've met proper nice guy
He's one of those big heads that thinks you don't know he's one.
I can remember John Barnes holding Liverpool to ransom for £10k a week and being all over the local papers as this is what Roma had offered him ? Hated him for it ! He was never 4 times better than Lawro but then again Lawro was no way near as good as Gary Gillespie ? But a magnificent player and was very generous on night out with our footy team. Indeed came out with us after playing and scoring on the same day and ended up rotten drunk dancing with his t shirt over his head in Flintlocks Liverpool. ! Fabulous YNWA
Mark has finally excepted that he's bald, maybe one day he will shave it to the bare.😂 .
The bloke is a whopper
He's a bitter old man
Lol....every pounds a prisoner 😂
Feeble and bitter Tory
Very hard to like liverpool when thier fans boos its/our national antham.
They say they do not identify as English but of course they want all the benefits of being in the EPL.
I personally wouldnt shed a tear if liverpool were not in the EPL.
Possibly the most boring and negative pundit to appear on TV. Always looked and acted like a relic from the 70's and this interview did nothing but reinforce that view. How he lasted as long as he did on the BBC will remain a mystery. Maybe he fitted in with the culture....
He must have being doing something right to last that long,he has the medals
you dont get medals for being on tv
@@johnflanagan5123
As opposed to Micah Richards laughing every five seconds and making everything about himself due to having a giant ego.
100% agree total negative dinosaur
I thought him a great pundit. A great dry wit. He’s been through the mill health wise physically and mentally and he’s not getting any younger. I meet a lot of people a bit jaded by life and cut them a bit of slack His politics are certainly not mine but so what. Can’t waste energy vetting every person in the world on their politics.
He’s on everywhere now ,hey,your not missed ,he’s lying through his teeth about the tax.Anyone ever known an unbiased red?
Higher rate tax was indeed 83% back in the day with standard rate at 33% , does not take much digging online to find out
Typical Brit. He's had a fantastic life compared to almost everybody, and he's just moaning.
Personalty of a glass of water Nice dandruff all over your top ,£2.5k 40 years ago weekly poor you
Money has ruined football. Now it's just all second rate jobs 4 the boys crap.