“I Protected David Beckham More Than He Knows” | Glenn Hoddle 🏴 | Ep 10
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- Former England manager Glenn Hoddle joins Jeff Stelling to choose his greatest midfielders on the latest episode of the pod.
Which current Premier League star does he thinks still isn’t trusted by England management? Why does every team need a Declan Rice? And what was his reaction to the David Beckham documentary?
Glenn also explains why he dropped Gazza from the 1998 World Cup squad, reveals the real reason why Matt Le Tissier received fewer chances with England, recalls when a football legend tried to unsuccessfully man mark him and discusses why he thinks he was sometimes the recipient of criticism from the press.
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0:00 Intro
1:00 Podcast starts
2:30 Was Hoddle ahead of his time?
7:57 Hoddle's inspirations
9:40 Spurs success with Ossie Ardiles and Ricky Villa
15:30 Getting man-marked by Johan Cruyff
19:40 Why he hardly played Matt Le Tissier
22:30 Managing England
27:50 Beckham's red card vs Argentina
33:00 Hoddle's thoughts on England's current generation (Rice & Maddison)
38:00 Working with Arsene Wenger
41:30 Hoddle's greatest regret and greatest moment
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“I Protected David Beckham More Than He Knows” | Glenn Hoddle 🏴 | Ep 10 - กีฬา
Who is the *_greatest_* midfielder you've had the privilege of watching LIVE?
moussa dembele
He comes from a town in Belgium! 🇧🇪@@anthonyjenkins5170
On a regular basis it has to be Glenn. I saw Cruyff at Highbury in 1970 and the White Hart Lane game in 1983. He was about 37 by then but was still classy.
David Rocastle.
Ohhhhh Rocky, Rocky!! 🙏@@stevestannard6004
Instead of blaming Hoddle, or Beckham for the incident, why can't the millions who abused him just own it, and say sorry for acting like utter morons? It's THEIR fault Beckham was treated how he was becuase it was them doing it, no-ones else.
Bang on mate
Superbly said
Millions? Are you sure?
Millions? You mean the media 😂..
The situation was used by the elites to get Becks in their gang, no looking back for becks, owned forever by the establishment…
Perfect Pawn..
The elite system in England, perfect pawns become knights…
@@Geokinkladzeprobably not millions who actually abused him but the way the press spun it really amplified the situation to the point the whole country disliked Becks at the time, it was disgusting really and a reminder of just how scummy the British press can be.
I was at spurs lodge as a kid about 11 or 12 with my sisters then boyfriend.. all the players had gone but we waited for hoddle for ages. When he did come out he stopped and then ask us if we had tickets for the game that night against Newcastle.. I said we didn’t have then he handed me an envelope with 2 tickets for that nights game.. even had glen hoddle on the ticket.. we was go overjoyed what a nice touch! I went back the following week to get the ticket signed.. glen is such a lovely lad 🤍 coys ….. Shame we got beat 3-1 🤍 COYS
CANT SMILE WITHOUT YOU
Hoddle used to live close to me on Rye Hill Road in Essex in the 80’s and I remember all the kids on the nearby estate would continuosly knock on his door for autographs, and he was always willing. I must have had at least six or seven autographs from him and not once was he rude. Despite not being a Spurs fan he was my football idol as a kid, absolute world class.
Love that ❤
Wow....what an intelligent, well spoken individual. I didn't know too much about Glenn, but I was impressed. Great episode. Thanks a lot, Jeff.
Growing up Hoddle was fhe first player i rememing watching, and thinking,.thats how i want to play football , never got close😂😂😂, but what a player. Pure and utter class.
Should have taken Gazza to france 98! He was outstanding at that time and we desperately needed him! And Le Tissier!.....thanks Glenn!
Totaly agree💯
@colingeddes2172 Thank you. I heard from extremely reliable sources that most training sessions was him showing off, he couldn't match Gazza's uper body strength and neither could he get the ball off Gazza, same with Le Tissier. Jealousy is a disease!!
Gazza was past it and going off the rails. And Le Tissier was great for a moment of magic, but he didn't do much else. There's a reason no England manager ever gave him a run m
@kb5509 England drew with Gazza dominated the game against an excellent Italy side. He was man of the match! He was lightyears ahead of David Batty and other midfielders we had at that time. the only decent one we had was Scholes. Gazza was not past his best, hence his performance against Italy. Le Tissier wasn't given a proper shout, merson was a class player too, but again we will never know.
@@LordFlashheart.11 playing well in 1 game doesn't mean you're still at your best. He was terrible in his last season at Rangers, which English fans delight in calling an amateur league. His fitness was notably poor as well.
He then went to Middlesbrough and was significantly worse than Merson, who did go. He also wasn't as good as Steve Mcmanaman by that point, who was also familiar with the system Glenn played from Liverpool under Roy Evans. And David Batty performs a completely different role. He was better than Gary Neville but I wouldn't play him at right back.
Still think to this day, that Beckham flick was a yellow at best, It wasn't a red card in a million years. It was silly, but a yellow at best
What did the rules state at the time? I can't recall. I watched it live and was a bit surprised at the red, but I'm pretty
sure that the referee went by the book. This was 1998 not 1978 and ANY kind of contact like that resulted in a red card.
England would have won the match in normal time, I reckon. Argentina were not that great post-1990, England were
superior, Owen's goal is one of the greatest top-flight goals of all time, it's a glorious piece of strength and skill from
such a wee young guy.
Then again, it just adds to the mythology, the mad rivalry between England and Argentina, which is the REAL rivalry, not Germany, not even Scotland, I say this as a Scot. Our rivalry petered out in 2000, it's not the same now, although it will rear up big time if we meet in the Euros or World Cup. England have Ireland in the Nations League this year! Oh, baby!
Brilliant interview with a genuinely nice bloke!
Such a nice bloke that takes the piss out of disabled people
What a load of cobblers. We all have ears and eyes. The man should have been a man and stood up the young man 💯
I remember seeing Hoddle in a park in Harlow once - it was a hot day and he was driving a convertible Mercedes - he looked cool - never forget the moment
Awwww how sweet lol
@@matthewdoyle3877 lol - are you an adult :-D
A marvellous player & an artist with a ball at his feet.
I will never forget once the golden goal was disallowed against Argentina and half the team were celebrating in the corner, firstly the look on Sol Campbells face as he turned around and realised it wasn't a goal and then Darren Anderton sprinting the length of the pitch to deny the goal at our end. Absolutely epic match.
I am really surprised they didnt even touch on the Eileen Drewery incident. That for me was his David Icke moment. Did he realise that so many people thought him quite mad after that. He was never trusted back into high level management afterwards and did he realise how crazy some of his comments were perceived ,particularly about deserving to face up to bad things from a previous life through reincarnation
if hoddle thinks the media don't understand him, this interview would be the perfect time to ask him about his grossly offensive disability comments from 1999 - he always claims to have been misquoted, but refuses to ever talk about it to correct the record
Oh get over yourself
@@spendover I'd love to, but my disability means I need a hoist to do so
@@andrewharrison7767 oh whatever
@@andrewharrison7767😂
He was grossly misquoted - it was an inference brought in by the interviewer, who had heard that Hoddle believed in aspects of Buddhism and therefore the possibility of reincarnation.
The snide questioner then cast a classic trope regarding reincarnation at Hoddle, (i.e. that people carry debts into this life, and are faced with challenges as a result; she then pressed the issue, raising the topic of one debt being physical disability).
Hoddle, who as an honest man, replied that if she wanted to make that inference, he couldn't argue, was then vilified as someone who believed disabled people deserved to be as they were, almost as a punishment.
I always thought that if we damn Hoddle, who wasn't even an avowed Buddhist or believer in reincarnation at the time, and was simply answering an abstract question as he thought it, then we'd have to damn half of Asia, which is slightly ridiculous.
Even if someone does believe in reincarnation and this inference, it does not mean that they have no compassion for those affected by disability, In fact, in Hoddle's case, quite the opposite. Any serious inquiry into Hoddle as a man reveals that he is actually well-liked in football circles and has done much charity work in his time, certainly since retirement.
I think he has made a mistake by never talking about it, but then again, I haven't had my career and character assassinated for making innocent comments, so maybe he's simply too wary.
Hoddle wasn't quick and didn't go past people but he was one of my favourite players growing up. He had a great touch vision and scored stunning sublime goals.
"fear is debilitating" Could not agree with that more, fear stops most of us succeeding. Fear is debilitating
I'm screenshotting this.
Hoddle & Waddle should do a comeback tour, it'll be a doddle, and I ain't talkin' no twaddle ha ha
We'd be in the front row for sure 😅
I'd love an hour long, prog version of Diamond Lights!!!
Respect to Glenn. It would of been so easy to become defensive and attack the Beckhams. Showed his humbleness and class
I met Glen last year and he had time to talk to me about his days playing against my club (Liverpool) back in the 80s. I remember watching him there. Top bloke.
Scored a brilliant goal at the Kop end the day Liverpool won the league in 1981/82.
this is how to conduct an interview - well done to you both
Hoddle doesn't get the credit he deserves he was an absolutely world class player in the 80s.
Extra time.....well said glenn.....fantastic interview
i dont know him for anything but the Gazza situation, cant remember him winning anything as a manager
Not a perfect man (none of us are). A great player (none of us are).
As a player, amazing
As a manager, flawed
As a pundit, ok
As a man, don’t know him
I was really hoping Jeff was going to ask what his beef was with Le Tissier and why he didn't get a call up to the 98 squad
He did, he had Paul Scholes.
Hoddle totaly shit on Le Tissier for no apparent reason. He obviously didnt like maverick geniuses. I respected hoddle as a player and coach, but his man management skills left alot to be desired.
@@colingeddes2172 when did he shit on him?
He did explain 🤷♂️
@@spendoverdidn't go deep enough. Saying he had paul scholes was an easy answer when players like Le tiss should have made the squad at least as an impact player
I protected Glenn Hoddle more than he knows.
Best technical coach england ever had shame about his ego ..it was always gonna get him sacked ...shame though
What ego??
Just listen to Glenn and in my opinion He is the most skillful English player that I have seen and I have seen them All with the exception of players who played in the 40/50 era
Hoddle was the most balanced two footed player ever. Oozed class and elegance. His passing and vision was outerworldly.
Why didnt Jeff ask him about taking up a job in footy management ???
Hoddle should never have been made to step down from the England job. The press twisted his comments re disabled people. Okay, whatever he said he should have probably kept to himself, but he was the best manager we've had since Bobby Robson. Hoddle may have just won us a Euro or world Cup.
He wouldn’t have he’s a shit manager and he did take the piss out of disabled people and whenever asked about it these days he changes the subject he meant what he said he’s a knob and was shit at every club he managed and England
top man our Jeff
Beckham's actions wasn't Hoddles fault.
Beckham made that choice and has to live with it,Hoddles press conference back in England supported Beckham and pleaded with fans to support him
Yeah after throwing him under in France.
@@MrGts92 the truth may hurt.
Only the sensitive ones get touchy
@@garybarnes556 True, Hoddle and his supporters are very sensitive to any criticism towards himself
@@MrGts92 Hoddle outspoken and it was true of Beckham's actions
@@MrGts92 not going to deny comes across as odd.
But I admire how outspoken Hoddle is and was right about Beckham.
Fantastic player had the pleasure of seeing him against Liverpool 81 scored a cracker into the Kop 25 yrds fortunately as a Liverpool fan we went to win the match and league 3 1 .... He's rite what he said about the FA Cup I hate what they have done to it and the lack of respect it's now given
He would walk it in this era. Great player
Tactically speaking, Hoddle was one of the best managers.
Yep. Proper channel.
What documentary are they on about ?
Beckham didn’t know about Glenn’s Amethyst
England got to penalties and choked - rather than own up to it, Hoddle threw a young kid under the bus.
Bang on
Southgate did something similar but blamed the fans
Actually he protected his players by switching focus to the fans, similar that he choked and seemingly didn’t accept the responsibility. Could be argued selecting players to take pens that have barely had a kick all tournament is throwing them under the bus
No, that young kid threw England under the bus.
@@NH-bz9jv seriously? It was at worst a petulant flick of the foot, not a flying two footed tackle. The focus should have been on the cheating twat Simoene and the pathetic ref
The best England manager we have had since Ramsey, bar none!
Robson was a great manager. He also got treated like shit by the press.
I never understood the hate Becks got. Yeah he got sent off but the real villain was standard argentina tactics. Hard game....cheat! 💪😂
Bullshit clear to see you ripped him apart
i only watched Platini live once but wow he was fantastic
When and where did you watch him?
@@Tricky181 The Moulin Rouge.
To either ask David Batty to take a penalty in a World Cup shootout or if Batty Volunteered to accept Batty putting himself forward either way is a shocking managerial decision.
Hoddle has a lot of pluses but leaving Gazza out in 98 is not one of them. How do you not take a player that good he scares the opposition?
Did the Daily Mail write the headline? Great interview, pity it has to focus on a headline grabber!!!!!
Who's the best midfielder I've seen on TV
As a Chelsea fan it's got to be Lamps
Avoided the le tiss question - hatrick for England B in run up to 98 World Cup, and not included in squad of 30 - creative genius who could have made an impact as sub - ?
It wasn't even a sending off incident, the ref overreacted.
You're wrong, sorry. You can't kick someone.
@@christopherbristow2492 damn right - you kick a player and you get sent off
The greatest Tottenham player of all time.
If he didnt want Gazza at the world cup in 98 ..He should have definitely taken le tiss ....we lacked creativity .Ironically after the qualifier against Italy in Rome .Gascoigne was immense and famously said he wont drop me now ......
Beckham got himself sent off, no one else.
so he deserved the abuse?
Glen my man, you did not protected David at all, you more than threw him under the bus
No mate, he defended him fully, I remember it clearly.
@@NH-bz9jvclealry didn’t the see the interview after the game then he threw him right under the bus and look at all the shit and young man had to deal with death threats and abuse to him and his famous in the streets and glen said fuck all about it if David didn’t have United team mates and Fergie who did protect him he wouldn’t even be here now
@@willtallis5275 embarrassing comment get out of beckham’s hole.
I do feel Glen should have said it was t a red at the time. I don’t remember him saying that in the interview after the game, or at the press conference after. He cudda said it wasn’t a red, I remember me being one of a few, and ally McCoist who’s moment and fan, saying it wasn’t a red, I told everyone I could it was hinted but they wouldn’t have it… wish Glen at the time had said it wasn’t a red, saying it months/years later could have been better… but, yes, he did say please don’t make him a scapegoat… that was ok but not enough, say it was no red and shouldn’t have been sent off, that would have helped. But I’m a Glen fan.
@willtallis5275 a he said was going down to 10 men cost the team the win ,which us correct
Bang out of order how the Beckhams portrayed Hoddle in the docuseries.
Or exactly the right way based on how hoddle blamed him for England exiting WC 98
Beckham is a bellend who lusts after a Knighthood from King Tampon.
I'm with Beckham's....but I am a real fan of the player hoddle
Hope you ask Merson why he threw Matt Le Tiss under the bus.
It was a massive loss to the national team that put us back years. Hoddle 'got it'. Just such a shame he was such a plonker, otherwise we really could have built something.
Beckham fouled Simone … fact shouldn’t have got sent off but the fact remains
He didn’t foul him. He was fouled! Then he flicked his leg out at Simeone, barely any contact and was sent off. Look it up.
The greatest English player ever. While i think he was sadly lacking in terms of humility and made some terrible choices which i believe were partly to massage his ego, there is no doubting his quality on the pitch. His vision, ease on ball, and passing range were unmatched. No disrespect to them but the likes of McDermott, Kennedy, Reid, etc should never have kept him out of the team
I presume it's covered but didn't Hoddle say something bad about disabled people, I swear I remember that being a thing... Might be good to hear his view point on it. Because if it's what I remember; it strips him of all the good memories of him I have as a player and manager!
Simon Jordan needs to get him in!
If Gazza was injured (not a serious injury) surely you take him anyway and keep him on the bench, monitor his training, have him rally the other players? You take that chance with a big player. Honestly seems like Hoddle just wanted to get rid of Gazza because of the tabloids and any potential controversies.
This comment shows how little you know about football. Jesus🙄
You don't waste a spot on someone who's not fit, just had a really bad season, and has well known substance issues. Especially when you've got the likes of Mcmanaman and Merson that can step in.
He'd also probably be a nightmare around the squad if he wasn't playing, he was pretty disruptive when he was playing.
If you've got Messi, Ronaldo, Pele and Maradona fixed as 1-4, is Dalglish really ahead of the likes of Cruyff and many others?
@@kb5509 spot on.
Never really liked glenn hoddle amazing footballer with a massive ego
He was a good player but he should own his behaviour and comments he made often ill chosen. People have to ask themselves if he was so brilliant why is he not universally liked. He is Marmite. Personally a pr..k but that’s my take
Southgate might not have hoddles crazy religious views and super ego but ..he also lacks his bravery and naous on the touchline ..i know what id rather have
Nonsense
#doubt
What Hoddle did to Beckham was unforgivable! Proved himself to be a total prick!
Did, you listen to the pod or you cant hear it from the noise of the bandwagon you jumped on ?
@@deanwarde7126he can say he didn’t but we all heard the interview after the game and he then him under the bus for defo and he never came out and told people to stop the hate against him either did he no he didn’t becuase he’s a prick and always has been
He chucked Becks under the bus. FACT!!!
Would Hoddle make a good England manager even though hes been out of the game for a while ??
Of course not. He hasn't managed in 20 years, and he didn't do a good job at any of the teams he managed when he did.
Nope...he was garbage then and garbage now... can't handle the big names
What a load of bollocks…..Muhren and Thyseen the best foreign players of that time….
What does that have to do with anything Mr Ipswich?
Might have been a good player but he was an awful self indulgent manager. On the Beckham piece, don’t kick an opponent and get sent off…then you don’t give people the opportunity to throw you under a bus.
The problem with Glenn -is that too over-confident- arrogant needs a re-dress. His faith got in the way - trying to push his beliefs onto others - at Swindon he was a player above the league - but your star fades - needed more grounding on management- but ultimately a chap too much full of himself.
Yup, he's been up his own arse all of his life and still won't dial it down. He's the classic example of a manager who should have kept his mouth shut. Being a pundit suits him - nonstop yammering.
I can't remember a time when Scholes wasn't appreciated?? Only Sven showed him disrespect and at school and all my mates loved Scholes and if he wanted could of played for every team in the world and they wanted him. But he never had a agent,never done interviews and never played the wannabe popular game coz he didn't want attention. To win ballon dors, motm, potsa, and everything else you had to play the game ehich he refused to do
No you didn’t Glenn. You threw a young kid under the bus to millions because he made a mistake in a game of football.
Beckham was a young kid? He was a spoilt brat.
@@lesliejameskellaway5527define spoilt. He was from east London for Christ's sake.
@@lesliejameskellaway5527how was he spoilt? He made own money and made a better life for himself and his family overall.
@@MrGts92 on £100 a week, I suppose?
@@lesliejameskellaway5527go on then ? How was a working class boy from east London with a gas fitter father and a hairdresser mother spoilt? He worked his socks off to become a United legend and captain of England . Nothing was given to him
Blame the penalty takers.simple
I don’t dislike Glen but he chats absolute bollocks
Great footballer but a bit of a crank lol
The treatment from the media and those so called English fans was a act of pure evil and glen huddle should have protected Beckham and stood by him. and shouldn't have taken David batty over gazza and FIFA cheated England allowing the dirty Argentina player fowling Beckham throughout the match the and sole cambell scored a perfectly good goal that was chalked off we where cheated by FIFA and all them people that abused Beckham should be ashamed themselves
20 mins in and I’m bored to tears
He's such a boring guy, just states the obvious, no sense of humour, but a perennial pontificating pundit.
In my opinion, Glenn Hoddle is the best English player ever, he was a genius......❤
Chill out. He wasn't the best English centre mid in the 80s, let alone best ever.
@@kb5509 just my opinion 👌🙂
@@tixomayarn6730 why is that your opinion?
Genius player, no doubt about it
Because he could do everything with both feet, his vision -skills and as a playmaker was on another level, he did see everything on the field ,
Just take a look at some video with him on TH-cam...
Many years ago 82/83 possibly, queued for autographs outside Roker Park (Spurs won 2-0, so players had no excuse to snub us kids).
Archibald and Hoddle, especially GH, got mobbed walking to the team bus. Both signed autographs.
Garth Crooks just walked though us all, straight onto the bus. Absolute tosser. He was nowhere near a star as GH at the time. 20:58
I’ve never ever forgotten that.
Other notable nice blokes I remember as a kid - Little Danny Thomas, Coventry possibly?
Trevor Brooking - stood in the rain signing for us kids before getting in the WHU team bus.
@petercoles373 I think I know you. If I’m correct you were a teacher and your mother in law across the road from me.
Ivan campo
No you didn’t glen he was young guy and look at what he had to deal with we all heard your interview and still you deny it this many years later never liked this guy d3sth threats and abuse all the time mail sent to his house his family geting abused in the street all becuase of you
What rubbish. Jeff clearly hasn't watched the 98 Argentina game since. The game was really low quality apart from the goals. Argentina were awful, too. In fact, Batistuta was so poor that he was subbed. Veron was poor. The Beckham red made the job far harder. But both teams were subpar.
Croatia were superior to both England and Argentina in that World Cup, but that World Cup was always going to be about Brazil and France. The Final was a disaster, of course. People thought that Ronaldo had died at first, can you imagine if we thought that about Messi in Qatar 2022? The world would have went insane. It IS insane!
Hoddle is a bellend if he thinks he "protected" Becks...
I have NEVER EVER heard him even HINT at that before, this is a brand new revelation, ie. made up shite.
@@GordonCaledonia agreed.
The dullest pundit ever trying to extricate himself from the fact he threw becks under the bus. Great footballer, shite human being
The karma worked, though! Beckham went to win the Champions League and Wrestlemania XVI.
As a player and manager he never won anything and hste the way he stifled our talented players like Gazza,Le tissier, Wright etc like he was amd he done the same thing
Hoddle was just born in the wrong country. To be honest England still play the kick and rush style to an extent.
People who say they were born in the wrong country are bellends. Kevin Keegan never spouted shite like that.
Another great podcast Jeff, hoddle has always told the truth on becks and Gazza. He gave Beckham is debut and did his best to protect him, I remember Beckham warming up for games not fully focused on the tournament, he was more interested in walking around with he Rolex than he was the world cup
You obviously know nothing about Beckham. Listen to people like Roy Keane, Ferguson, Zidane, Figo, cantona etc etc. Beckham was dedicated to the game and was always a committed trainer and professional.
@@monrush not doubting that at all, but u cant deny the fact that all the fun fair around him, he he purposely brought on himself did not affect his career
@@KingKong-ee8hc ok. How did the extra curriculum activities definitively affect his career? His on the pitch career
@monrush ask Sir Alex Fergusson, who said Beckham lost his dedication after hooking up with Victoria Adams.
Glenn hoddle spoke a load of bullshit the whole interview. Matt le tisier snub reason was just dumb.
We always lose
Arsenal fan here, so I don't have much love for mostly wimpy, ex Spurs players, but to me, Hoddle became a clown to me firstly because of his single with Chris Waddle - Diamond lights, then bringing his religion/faith into his England tenure and finally for not taking Paul Gascoigne to the world cup in 1998. Criminal 🤷🏿♂️
Hoddle genuinely sees himself as, "One of the Greats" of English football and he... isn't. A silky player, great passer, scored some great goals, but he was what they used to call, "a luxury player" not a pragmatic player, certainly not a good enough manager to manage England. He just always, always comes across as a twat, sick of seeing him on pundit panels. Sick of 97% of pundits, what a network of ninnies that is!
Let me guess.. he's going to whine about being underappreciated in England... He was idolised by spurs fans and admired by fans of other teams..the whole myth about england not having flair players in the 60s' 70s and 80's is just that.
Of course it is and we have the footage and news articles of the time to prove it.
Well thats bollox
Jeff’s laugh is horrible
Bible basher
Rubbish. Get your facts right before spouting crap.
@@benleatherland7020 he's a bible thumping weirdo