Bryan made a very valid comment that I had to reply to and I'm certain many of you think the same thing. Bryan is 100% correct about the repetitive information in this video, if you've been listening to me for a while, or I have sent you all the scent control documents. However, just like when I wrote the instructional bowhunting books, I had to write the second and third books with a lot of the same information as the first book because I couldn't assuming that the reader had read either of the other books. So, since this is going to be a series of videos encompassing scent control, which is extremely important, I felt like I had to begin by discussing repetitive things (to many of you) about TV guys, misuse of ScentLok, some of the technology, swirling winds and thermals, how I had to hunt when I paid attention to wind direction, etc. I'm being very serious when I say, if you have been listening to me for a while, you can likely dismiss watching this and maybe even part 2, but I have to lay a foundation for new listeners. Please bear with me as the proper care, use and storage will be in part 3 and there will be a part 4. The next video this Friday evening will be a kill story.
Like me!!!! Getting into bow hunting this year completely new here!!! and it’s helps me get all the info thank you for saving me years and years of mistakes !!!
Thank you so much it helps no matter how many times you repeat it you're trying to help I don't know why people try to be negative or oh you're doing this wrong or oh you're doing that wrong when you're simply trying to help them
The only person that ever made 100% true statements on scent controll.i found you a couple years augo & have been practicing what you preach & i do not get winded anymore.you have to truly dedicate yourself to it to be sucsessfull.thanks for all the " real" info.from arkansas.
@@ninjagodzilla6402 seen that you were saying how helpful this has been for you and it’s made a major difference for me but when I tell my fellow hunting buddys no one believes it or even try’s…
@@Louisiana8critter_getter yes.i to have a couple buddys that dont even think about the steps i take.and they dont kill many deer.they shoot young deer off of feeders.but i hunt natural & i hunt bucks & does.yea some people just will never get it i guess.but thats ok.more for us.
I adopted his scent control method. Try to copy it to the fine details. Was skeptical until 3 does fed in toward me down wind from 60 to right under my tree. Not spooking them allowed me to shoot a nice 5 year old 8 point. Cheers from Mississippi John.
@@johneberhart4062 have you ever noticed that your scent lok procedure really closely resembles surgical sterile field? I’m in medicine and I immediately picked up on that
@@collinslangley361 I've never even heard of surgical sterile field but it really sounds cool! Do they use activated carbon clothing, or some form of membraned suit that doesn't allow any air flow?
It’s not activated carbon but they do use sterile drapes and control airflow. The entire concept is minimization of bacterial transfer from your skin to the patient being operated on. You start by thoroughly washing your hands up to your elbows (kind of how you use the baby wipes) hair is always netted and controlled. You wear multiple layers etc. i just noticed that because a lot of the bacteria in your skin (the kind you’re controlling with the wipes) and trapping under a carbon suit are the same ones that can cause post surgical infections
Good morning Mr. Eberhart . I am an aging bow hunter . I started hunting out 1974 . Moved from a Bear Whitetail Hunter recurve bow to a Jennings Model T compound bow in 1976 . Shot my first buck from a platform in and old apple tree in Letchworth State Park in Wester New York . I too have had to turn down the poundage on my Bear Species EV bow to 40 pounds . So, Because you have reduced your poundage over the years as well my question is what is your arrow setup ? Total weight for example . I am concerned about the right arrow setup for my low poundage . Thanks for any feedback you might have time to offer .
On my second hunt with Scentlok and following your advice regarding rubber boots I was climbing my preset tree when I heard a scratching sound below me - I looked over my shoulder and there was a fox standing two front paws on the tree looking up at me - when our eyes met you could see the shock on his face - he jumped back but then stopped to look up as if to say ‘what the?” before trotting off - half hour later a hog deer spiker walked past - when he hit my entry trail I expected him to expode but instead he turned and followed my trail to the base of the tree and then stood looking around as if thinking ‘what is that?’ Eventually he strolled off - I know spikers can be dumb but I was sold after those two incidents
I quit watching the TV guys over 15 years ago. It's mostly shameless plugs for this product or that, while shooting big bucks on intensively managed private property (often inside a high fence).
@@underdogoutdoors I love those guy on THP, but they are hunting out west where things are quite different concerning the numbers of mature bucks and hunting pressure.
The only time I have ever been winded in my scent control suit is when i got something on the suit that contaminated it. The stuff works. I never hunt the wind!
Very interesting. Genuine question, though. This might sound like a joke, but I’m actually curious - why does activated carbon clothing not absorb all of the odor when a human passes gas while wearing it? I’m not saying it cannot absorb human odor, clearly you have had incredible success with it. But why is a fart any different? It seems odd that human gas could pass through the suit if it’s able to capture all other human body odor.
That's a simple one, a fart has force behind it and if your wearing a permeable ScentLok suit, some of those odor molecules will pass through before the carbon can do its job in adsorbing it. Odor molecules that freely emit from our bodies without being under a forced air situation, are easily adsorbed by the activated carbon.
@@johneberhart4062 gotcha. And human breath doesn’t have enough force to get through the filter? That’s the only other hang up I have. It seems any type of air pressure would push through the suit if a fart does. Breath, air pressure from movement pushing air out of the suit, etc. I can understand it greatly reducing odor, but to achieve 100% containment seems like it would have to be an air tight design. Maybe I’m not fully understanding.
Upcoming video's already loaded will be a 1980 Michigan public land kill story this Friday (20th), Part 2 of scent control will be on the 27th and another 2007 kill story (with my son Jon in Kansas) on June 3rd and then I will likely post a proper care video and then a video on the ScentLok Saddle Hunter suit I designed as it will be here a little earlier than I thought it might.
I feel kind of late in the game getting into this comment board at 10:18ET John I commented before to you about scentlok. I've been in it since the get-go. I just can't buy into the carbon alloy. I wish that I kept the pictures of what I call dingo balls. Of the carbon that was built up in big spheres throughout my undergarments. I plan on using scentlok and still use scentlok regardless but I really hope they increase quality control. I know this stuff works. I just need a product that can work as hard as I do. As I have said in the past I would go back to the green, hard as cardboard outfits that they had when they came out with it. That stuff worked. I just wish I knew how many cycles I could hit it in the dryer with and still be able to recharge the carbon.
Gregg, I actually agree with your comment to an extent, their garments are getting better (other than their gloves which are poorly made) from what they used to be. And 20 years ago when I would wash my suits (I never wash them anymore), I would have the carbon ball up in lumps. Never happens when properly de-adsorbed in the dryer only. Great comment though.
John, if you ever have any interest in hunting the mountains of western NC reach out. I would love to see what you could pull out of here. The bucks get very old in those larual thickets but everyone around here has trouble killing them, a lot simply die of old age. Extremely hard to get to arears in rough terrain. I think mostly due to constant swirling wind . You have a better scent control regiment then anyone I know. Thanks for all your info !
Iv been using scent lok for as long as I can remember? Before I started using scent lok , I would hear deer snorting ,and blowing at me almost every time I went to the woods. Far as I’m aware of , I haven’t had a deer smell me one time since Iv been using it. He’s telling the truth concerning about not worrying about the wind direction. We have had deer come in from straight down wind on a numerous of times. Once you use these products, and realize they actually work, you want hunt whitetails without them any longer. I like the jumpsuit myself. I use the gloves , the head and face mask. Fully dress in other words in scent lok. I see these big time show celebrities, all time on hunting shows , saying things like,( he caught our wind , and busted us), are (the wind has changed direction so we have too move places.). All these things could had simply been eliminated, by scentlok. I’m not saying the wind direction isn’t important, a hunter should put ever advantage to his side that he can, however it’s not that important if you have scent lok on. I make my on scent killer spray,I play the wind game when I can, and I always go too the woods with full confidence that no matter what ever takes place , a deer isn’t going too smell because of the scent Lok products. So for whatever it’s worth I’m a 60 year old , honest man , telling you my pass experience with scent lok products.It’s the real deal, worthy of the price if your a serious deer hunter.( Get You some, you want regret it, but you must wash it and use it as directed, and never ever put it on until you get to the woods. I know John recommends not washing it , and I agree up to a certain point.If you sweat, a lot in them, are have them really muddy, are bloody, that kind of thing they will need cleaning, however don’t do it unless it’s necessary).
My experience has been similar. Sometimes I don't think it is that they can't smell you at all. They think you are gone or are much farther away than you are and therefore are not a threat.
John I love your videos and thanks for all of them! Had a question? I just turned 41 the 7th and I use to hunt when I was younger and through my twenties and thirties I competed in mixed martial arts,so I didn't really have any time for hunting. I'm getting back into hunting now and actually killed my first buck two years ago. I'm just getting into the scent control thing but what about your bow? Or your sticks and platform? Just started targeting box and I didn't get to that I was watching last year on public land. Really enjoy public hunting and it's replaced the competition drive from competing. Plenty of time to prepare for next year but would like your info on what you do for other things than your clothing? I worked as an arborist for years so saddle hunting came easy and I actually have your saddle. I made some mods to it but I really enjoy your saddle! Going to use it next year as well but I'm going to put magnets in the panels. We have Amish in my area that do that work as well.
Hey John … I like the video and got large respect … I did see you with a face mask that wasn’t scent lock … do you sometimes not wear the scent lock and just do the best you can with wind direction. Also do you have any suggestions to a scent free suit besides scent Lock… maybe cheaper in price ?
One of my biggest thoughts on scentlock was the “reactiviation” of the carbon. In my water treatment classes, we talked about how activated carbon is used in treating odors in wastewater and drinking water treatment (which has me more curious about using scentlock). However, I was always confused about your reactivation process. Activated carbon needs to be in temperatures between 500 to 800 degrees Celsius to reactivated, of which a dryer cannot reach. So have you really reactivated the carbon in your gear?
Well, you're halfway correct. To reactivate activated carbon to its pristine state (with ZERO molecules in the pores), you need to heat it to 1450 degrees, while under pressure in the absence of air. To de-adsorb it for further hunting use, a dryer does the job at 150 degrees and that was proves at Rutgers University in a laboratory by a scientist that works exclusively on activated carbon studies. That test was mandated in a lawsuit against ScentLok and they passed it with flying colors. De-adsorption at lower temperatures works in the exact same manner as low heat ranges (80 to 90 degree sunny days) which causes molecule to energize and expand, and that is why there are expansion joints in concrete highways, steel structure bridges, high rise structures with steel frameworks to name a few.
One more Q… what ur take on blockers outdoor’s cold fusion Carbon Vs. scentlok’s cabin alloy? Is it the same? Deer lord I want to use scentlok but god it expensive. Blocker outdoors a bit cheaper. Thanks again for ur knowledge
This is why I like John. He doesn't bull shit. I can't stomach most tv show deer hunters. Their regality is not mine and never will be. I hunt a very high pressure public areas with low a deer density. There is no such thing as getting the wind right to be able to access a stand location unless you want to add miles and extra river or lake crossings your walk. As for clothing, I think people hate on Scentlock and the like because they think all they have to do is put on a Scentlok outfit and it will act like a magic cloak. When it doesn't they get upset. Their expectations are too high. I don't do all the stuff John does, and I still have seen a large increase in my success. Everything I wear is Scentlok now. I have to hunt hard just to see a deer let alone get a chance to kill one. I rarely if ever get busted. Deer blowing at me in the near distance is a thing of the past. In 25 years of deer hunting I have only had the opportunity at 5 mature bucks. All but one came after I started wearing Scentlok. The 3 I killed were all with Scentlock. One came from down wind. One stood on the trail I walked in on just an hour before. The other was on a morning with a swirling wind.
Then you're doing something wrong is your head completely covered hands completely covered pants over boots and all clothes scentlok including all your clothes underneath your outer suit
@@dennybirchfield I'm still using traditional head covers because scentlocs are gigantic! I've called them and begged them to make a cover alot smaller
I absolutely believe that activated charcoal will absorb scent. However, I'm not convinced that domestic dryers will reactivate it. I've looked for the Rutgers study, but, haven't been able to find it.
Hey john, ive heard you say that once you wear a base layer its contaminated and does not go back in the box, shouldn't scentloc take care of that? Also, after a scentfree soap shower do you put on "scent free" clothing for the drive out to the woods? Im thinking if you take that shower it would be useless to just put on any clean smelling clothes out of the dresser.
Last year I took the plunge buying Scentlok and it’s really eyebrow raising Had a doe and mature buck cross my entrance trail and not a signal response from them It’s almost unbelievable what this stuff does
It is unbelievable and when I began using it, I never thought I would end up totally negating wind direction, just thought it would aid immensely in getting more opportunities and having deer wind me less.
@@johneberhart4062 I wore on a day that was in the 20s and blowing 20-30 mph and never got cold… got sick with Covid and the flu the following day but 🤷🏼♂️
Hello Mr. E, what is ur take on soaking the hunting clothing with activated carbon powder mixed with water and air dry it. Have u tried this? Would this be as effective as scentlok? If u tried this does it work and how long? If not why?
Great question!! It would depend on what location I was going in to hunt and what the wind direction was on the hunt. If it were a location where I was 90 plus % certain the deer would come on a specific route and the wind was correct from my tree, I would leave the ScentLok behind. In a bedding area where deer could come from any direction, the saddle would be left behind. It would be situational for each specific. Overall, the saddle would be left behind most often as I fell absolutely naked without my ScentLok clothing on.
Does scent blocker use activated carbon legitimately the same as scentlok? I got a lightweight blocker set about 10 years ago. but from what I’ve heard you say before is that scentlok is the only company w the patent for the activated carbon. That still true today ?
What about the scent blocker suits how do they differ from scent lok ? I’ve used both but not sure if one is better than the other? What’s your take on them John??
Scentlock bought out Scent Blocker way back. I don't know if they are still connected. Scent Blocker doesn't use activated carbon, at least the newer stuff anyway.
He mentioned ozone in another video I believe and don’t quote me on this but he uses ozone to clean odor from his vehicle but doesn’t use it on his gear because ozone is also a foreign scent that could spook a mature buck
ozone breaks down vey rapidly prolly by the time you get your clothes out of the bag, put them on then walk to your stand itll be all dissipated. however for a quick dry washing of hunting clothes, im very into ozone. works amazing for quickly breaking down organic odors i use a generator i made and a plastic tub cause its easier than bringing a functional washing machine. just dont breath too much of it, it definitely has an odor but because it dissipates so quickly its great for freshening up my gear without worry.
OK John I know you touched on this before but I’m still kind of puzzled if I put my scent lock suit on and do everything the way you describe I still have a huge walk in to get where I am hunting if I change my clothes and put my scent lock on anywhere around my spot that I’m going to be hunting then I am leaving scent in the area and on my walk in
@@trackingwatertrails4914 I'm a profuse sweater as well and need to do a video on entries and exits and what to wear to keep from sweating. In some southern climates I think it would be impossible to keep from sweating even if wearing shorts and a T-shirt. Like you, I think that garment control on long walks is a huge deal. One of my main goals over the years has been to go all season with sweating on my entries and exits and during many seasons I've done it on every hunt. I wear as minimal as possible on entries according to weather and oftentimes will wear one of my older ScentLok lightweight base layer tops and bottoms to my tree and change out at the base of the tree. The older base garments had the exact same carbon liners as the suits so it had the same coverage concerning adsorption. Their newer base garments have lass carbon and some panels have zero. I've kept my old stuff and only use it when I need for entries and exits as its like wearing a ballerina suit.
@@johneberhart4062 I have tried so hard to try to limit as much scent that changing at the base of a tree has always concerned me so much I have even changed at the top of the tree, but then I think about wind direction so I become so confused.
Wind speed and direction are always important variables due to the fact that a mature buck will typically move with the wind in his favor as he knows that his nose is his primary sensor. So it is always a good idea to factor the wind speed and direction into the equation when calculating probabilities of a mature bucks movement patterns. The scent control via activated carbon is definitely great advice, however certain junction points can be a real problem. Mouth breathers, especially those that drink a lot of alcohol and coffee will always have to avoid being upwind of a mature buck, no matter what they do with activated carbon. Also, there are guys in the hunting industry that know how to get it done on a mature buck so attempting to destroy your competition in that manner is quite crude and untrue when you use a blanket statement as if you’re the “god” of whitetails and everyone else is inferior. You’re a great hunter no doubt, but show some class and respect for other guys that have proven to be successful throughout the years. The combination of knowledge of the truth, passion, respect, and proven success are the keys to being a respectable role model and good teacher.
John Eberhart isn't trying to destroy anyone. He's calling out the so called experts that claim there's no way to fool a deer's nose. These TH-cam "experts" obviously haven't gone to the lengths required to get the most out of Scent-Lok. John Eberhart has, and so have I. Yes, guys can be successful without Scent-Lok, it's proven every year. But I wonder how much more successful they would be if they used Scent-Lok correctly. And, I think John Eberhart's record speaks for itself. He's earned the right to be outspoken.
He does say “it might seem arrogant or cocky”.. but he is speaking about guys that hunt dream states and make it seem more difficult for tv when the reality is the “mature buck” they are hunting has never been shot at and walked by them multiple times, smelled them and might even think they are harmless because they plant the food they eat..I don’t think he is trying to destroy any competition because he doesn’t have a tv show. But I get what your saying and he does come off arrogant sometimes but I still like him and his knowledge.
Glass bottle, wide mouth.... you will see one in his backpack video and also on his "Mommy of Death Wagon" video on Greg's G2 Outdoors channel (he's the Army guy from Tethrd)
Good stuff John. Your evolution with Scent Lok sounds awful familiar to me. It took a while through trial and error to figure out how to properly use it. There is no doubt in my mind that it works when used properly. I have the results to prove it on my wall…none of which were shot during my pre scent lok days. I think most of the guys who try to poo poo it just don’t want to go through the effort. That’s fine, just say that. Don’t try to dismiss it as fairy dust. Most of the guys dismissing it also look like they haven’t taken a shower in a week too so that shows what their regiment is like. I could go on and on
You've got that right, I can tell immediately just by looking at some peoples hygiene or interior of their vehicle or house, if they are detail oriented enough to do a scent control regimen.
@@johneberhart4062 exactly! And then there’s the guys who say to only hunt a spot once or twice and after that it’s burnt out. Not for me. I don’t pound any spot but can certainly hunt several times. The amount of deer crossing my entry trail and not even batting an eye is too many to remember. There’s just so many advantages to using a scent control regiment.
@@johneberhart4062 Thanks for the reply! I feel the same. I take it plus sent locker showers and so on. Shot Two two year in A row over 140 the biggest 158 and last year had one in the 150's at 15 yards and my limb cracked. All on high pressured MN state land. Thank you for all the info you provide in these videos!
The TV guys are a joke. If they hunted the public that I do, I'd chew them up. We work our asses off year round to single out a decent 4 year old every other season
@@johneberhart4062 I’m with ya man, I put your videos on all the time just to learn and listen. You have taught me as well as several other hunters to be more efficient and successful. Learned more from you than any of the tv guys
Good video… two problems I have. 1. Saying hunters are lazy assuming They can afford technology if they don’t use it. It would be lazy TO use this stuff. You’re essentially turning public land bucks into high fence deer. Be a man and muck it out the traditional way with wind. 2. Second you confirmed you got paid more than a penny from scentloc your credibility disappears Still like this… something to think about here
Typical criticism of jon‘s ideas about scentlok is that since he hunts so high, this negates a lot of the scent by itself. Anybody out there who uses scent lock hunting from the ground or very low with consistent success?
Sorry Mike but I have always hunted relatively high in comparison to most other hunters so I don't get picked. Before using ScentLok I got winded frequently from the heights I hunted. That's back when I used archaic milkweed to track thermals and swirling wind currents, so obviously I saw my thermals gong to the ground. If you use milkweed, you must have witnessed the same thermals.
@@johneberhart4062 do you ever hunt the more remote northern michigan swamps? In most of the thick cedar/black spruce swamp habitat I hunt, its hard to imagine having a decent shot at anything being very high up in a tree. There's just so much cover and low branches it would be impossible to shoot an arrow through. I sometimes can clear shooting lanes but sometimes it's even too thick for that so I'm forced to hang low
@@ajdrew252 Yes, I've hunted in a couple cedar swamps in the Up in the 80's and in a couple around Harrison. You are 100% correct, if you get too high, you can't see squat. In cedar swamps I was typically about 12 to 15 feet up the tree and had the tree cleared out for very specific runways. I once took a buck from a cedar at 6 yards and I was only 12 feet up the tree. I felt like I could touch him. I rarely hunt that type of ground anymore and when in timber as in a swampy bedding area or timber with understory, it's rare when I hunt below 25 feet to my feet.
@@johneberhart4062 thanks for the feedback. Good to know I'm not the only one. I typically am in that 15ft height range. I get caught by deer every now and then, mostly by scent but sometimes they see me...but it beats sitting on the ground. It's a tough game up here in northern lower peninsula with the thick habitat, vast wilderness, smaller deer that don't see humans very often. I imaging the UP is even harder!
John, I’ve taken a lot of information from your videos and podcasts and am a better hunter because of it. I want to offer some feedback on this video because I don’t feel it lives up to the rest of your content. I’m more than half way through this video and I’ve yet to learn anything about the procedures for developing a scent control regime. It’s been a half hour of talking shit about other hunters and telling anecdotal stories. Great deer camp banter but this is not educational. You have made your point that the wind and scent control matter. Beyond that nothing useful has been conveyed and I’m now at the 40 minute mark. Thanks for the videos and the effort as always. But this one seems far more like shop talk than educational.
Bryan, thanks for your comment and you are 100% correct about the repetitive information if you've been listening to me for a while, or I have sent you all the scent control documents. However, just like when I wrote the instructional bowhunting books, I had to write the second and third books with a lot of the same information as the first book because I couldn't assuming that the reader had read either of the other books. So, since this is going to be a series of videos encompassing scent control, I felt like I had to begin by discussing repetitive thing (to you) about TV guys, misuse of ScentLok, some of the technology, swirling winds and thermals, how I had to hunt when I paid attention to wind direction, etc. I'm being very serious when I say, if you have been listening to me for a while, you can likely dismiss watching this and maybe even part 2, but I have to lay a foundation for new listeners. Please bear with me as the proper care, use and storage will be in part 3. The next video on Friday evening will be a kill story.
Seems like he can talk about whatever he wants in his video, he’ll put out the hands on in another video and it’s fun talking shit about “hunters” hunting tame deer..
Good video like what you have to offer. But I have killed a lot of bucks 6 point or better every year. I clean my clothes a keep them in a tub but don't use sentlock. An I don't get winded it important a deers smell but if every human oder spook them they would be running scared every second of the day.
Heres the thing rubber boots arent scentlock lined or infused so ive always seen bicarbonate spray good for hitting your rubber boots with before going into the woods...John how can you say that your completely scentfree when your boots arent scentlock boots? My point is that technically your suit isnt 100% scentlock if your not head to toe? Im not talking about the throat of the boot im talking about the actual bottom rubber sole of the boot and the sides that are exposed?
Rubber boots don’t have seams to let scent out. The only scent coming out of the boots is at the top, therefore having scentlok pants over the tops of the boots would trap the scent coming out of the top
@@clayton8869 my point is until they make a rubber "scentlock" infused boot you can completely wrap your feet in then you cant say your using 100% scentlock because the very bottom of your feet arent protected by scentlock.
@@clayton8869 im not talking about the inside of the boot im talking about the outside of the boot...thee outside actual rubber of the boot that touches the ground.
@@vonbirddog2713 Have you ever even considered why trappers for wolves, coyotes, fox use rubber boots?????????? Because rubber doesn't allow odors through them. If trappers used leather or cordura boots for dog style predators, they would have a lot of empty traps. Next????
I am a Believer and set lock I watched it work with my own eyes when she walked across my trail you mature oh no you know and now catch you all the time she hit someone and I'm sure it was my ground s*** but I kind of had that cover with those nose jammer she She hit that stop for a second and now you ate it in turn Around went the other way thought about it and come right back right through my SIM cone and the wind was blowing dead in her face she never spooked or nothing I mean she got a little Larry I don't think it was toward human I think it was just a unknown sense to her to her I'm that nose jammer but if I wouldn't to use it she might not have like stopped on my trail at all I watched it worked 2 or 3 times so far away with the wind blowing dead in her face I'll never go back I'll never go Away from sentlok
Here's a test I'd like to see. Fill a bucket with activated carbon, hide drugs in the middle of it, making sure carbon completely surrounds it.... then see if a drug dog alerts on it.
That would be a good test, but I don't know if it would work. Drug dogs are trained to react to ANY minute amount of drug odor molecules and if less that 1% of the odor was identifiable, it would likely be enough to trigger a trained dog. Deer will accept minute amounts of predator (we are their main predator), danger odors as they would just think the danger is too far away to be a threat. Also keep in mind that when deer with a properly used ScentLok suit, that the 1 to 2% of odor the hunter may emit, is immensely diluted into the environment before any of it would hit a deer's nose. Trained dogs are smelling thing at point blank distances.
@@Dennis-mf8sw You do realize that odor molecules are emitting from a dead corpse and rising to the top of the water and this happens for a long period of time.
You’re probably right about a lot of stuff but dude the level of arrogance you have in every video you post is enough to make me want to just go watch Whitetail Habitat Solutions.
I feel like the proof is in the trophy collection……….so this man’s talk is not cheap at all and it’s amazing he’s willing to hand out his hard earned knowledge for free.
Gather around everybody and listen to Grandpa tell everyone how he shot 4 P&Y bucks in 60 years in Michigan a state where there's only 8 bucks and they live underground.
Bryan made a very valid comment that I had to reply to and I'm certain many of you think the same thing. Bryan is 100% correct about the repetitive information in this video, if you've been listening to me for a while, or I have sent you all the scent control documents. However, just like when I wrote the instructional bowhunting books, I had to write the second and third books with a lot of the same information as the first book because I couldn't assuming that the reader had read either of the other books. So, since this is going to be a series of videos encompassing scent control, which is extremely important, I felt like I had to begin by discussing repetitive things (to many of you) about TV guys, misuse of ScentLok, some of the technology, swirling winds and thermals, how I had to hunt when I paid attention to wind direction, etc. I'm being very serious when I say, if you have been listening to me for a while, you can likely dismiss watching this and maybe even part 2, but I have to lay a foundation for new listeners. Please bear with me as the proper care, use and storage will be in part 3 and there will be a part 4. The next video this Friday evening will be a kill story.
Like me!!!! Getting into bow hunting this year completely new here!!! and it’s helps me get all the info thank you for saving me years and years of mistakes !!!
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Thank you so much it helps no matter how many times you repeat it you're trying to help I don't know why people try to be negative or oh you're doing this wrong or oh you're doing that wrong when you're simply trying to help them
The only person that ever made 100% true statements on scent controll.i found you a couple years augo & have been practicing what you preach & i do not get winded anymore.you have to truly dedicate yourself to it to be sucsessfull.thanks for all the " real" info.from arkansas.
Makes me laugh that you can’t even help people by telling them this I’m a firm believer an never get busted anymore
@@Louisiana8critter_getter who are you talking to?
@@ninjagodzilla6402 seen that you were saying how helpful this has been for you and it’s made a major difference for me but when I tell my fellow hunting buddys no one believes it or even try’s…
@@Louisiana8critter_getter yes.i to have a couple buddys that dont even think about the steps i take.and they dont kill many deer.they shoot young deer off of feeders.but i hunt natural & i hunt bucks & does.yea some people just will never get it i guess.but thats ok.more for us.
I adopted his scent control method. Try to copy it to the fine details. Was skeptical until 3 does fed in toward me down wind from 60 to right under my tree. Not spooking them allowed me to shoot a nice 5 year old 8 point. Cheers from Mississippi John.
Thanks and congratulations
@@johneberhart4062 have you ever noticed that your scent lok procedure really closely resembles surgical sterile field? I’m in medicine and I immediately picked up on that
@@collinslangley361 I've never even heard of surgical sterile field but it really sounds cool! Do they use activated carbon clothing, or some form of membraned suit that doesn't allow any air flow?
It’s not activated carbon but they do use sterile drapes and control airflow. The entire concept is minimization of bacterial transfer from your skin to the patient being operated on. You start by thoroughly washing your hands up to your elbows (kind of how you use the baby wipes) hair is always netted and controlled. You wear multiple layers etc. i just noticed that because a lot of the bacteria in your skin (the kind you’re controlling with the wipes) and trapping under a carbon suit are the same ones that can cause post surgical infections
th-cam.com/video/dpYOml02OBQ/w-d-xo.html
This is the video we used as med students and it’s a basic walk through of the procedure
Good morning Mr. Eberhart . I am an aging bow hunter . I started hunting out 1974 .
Moved from a Bear Whitetail Hunter recurve bow to a Jennings Model T compound bow in 1976 . Shot my first buck from a platform in and old apple tree in Letchworth
State Park in Wester New York .
I too have had to turn down the poundage on my Bear Species EV bow to 40 pounds .
So, Because you have reduced your poundage over the years as well my question is what is your arrow setup ? Total weight for example .
I am concerned about the right arrow setup for my low poundage .
Thanks for any feedback you might have time to offer .
Thanks for being honest and just throwing out facts appreciate your knowledge. No bs just facts.
On my second hunt with Scentlok and following your advice regarding rubber boots I was climbing my preset tree when I heard a scratching sound below me - I looked over my shoulder and there was a fox standing two front paws on the tree looking up at me - when our eyes met you could see the shock on his face - he jumped back but then stopped to look up as if to say ‘what the?” before trotting off - half hour later a hog deer spiker walked past - when he hit my entry trail I expected him to expode but instead he turned and followed my trail to the base of the tree and then stood looking around as if thinking ‘what is that?’ Eventually he strolled off - I know spikers can be dumb but I was sold after those two incidents
Awesome video. Thank you for taking the time to make it
Another great informative video John! Looking forward to the next one!
Not as many people watch the TV guys anymore, now that there's TH-cam & even other more hunter friendly platforms emerging.
I quit watching the TV guys over 15 years ago. It's mostly shameless plugs for this product or that, while shooting big bucks on intensively managed private property (often inside a high fence).
@@chrisdolan9515 Even "The hunting public" on TH-cam has had some episodes that resemble the TV guys system.
@@underdogoutdoors Yeah, like when they all went to Bear bows a year or two ago (maybe still use the product, not sure).
@@underdogoutdoors I love those guy on THP, but they are hunting out west where things are quite different concerning the numbers of mature bucks and hunting pressure.
The only time I have ever been winded in my scent control suit is when i got something on the suit that contaminated it. The stuff works. I never hunt the wind!
Great video! Calling out all the “experts”! Keep calling it how it is!
It is what it is.
Very interesting. Genuine question, though. This might sound like a joke, but I’m actually curious - why does activated carbon clothing not absorb all of the odor when a human passes gas while wearing it? I’m not saying it cannot absorb human odor, clearly you have had incredible success with it. But why is a fart any different? It seems odd that human gas could pass through the suit if it’s able to capture all other human body odor.
That's a simple one, a fart has force behind it and if your wearing a permeable ScentLok suit, some of those odor molecules will pass through before the carbon can do its job in adsorbing it. Odor molecules that freely emit from our bodies without being under a forced air situation, are easily adsorbed by the activated carbon.
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@@johneberhart4062 gotcha. And human breath doesn’t have enough force to get through the filter? That’s the only other hang up I have. It seems any type of air pressure would push through the suit if a fart does. Breath, air pressure from movement pushing air out of the suit, etc.
I can understand it greatly reducing odor, but to achieve 100% containment seems like it would have to be an air tight design. Maybe I’m not fully understanding.
Upcoming video's already loaded will be a 1980 Michigan public land kill story this Friday (20th), Part 2 of scent control will be on the 27th and another 2007 kill story (with my son Jon in Kansas) on June 3rd and then I will likely post a proper care video and then a video on the ScentLok Saddle Hunter suit I designed as it will be here a little earlier than I thought it might.
I feel kind of late in the game getting into this comment board at 10:18ET John I commented before to you about scentlok. I've been in it since the get-go. I just can't buy into the carbon alloy. I wish that I kept the pictures of what I call dingo balls. Of the carbon that was built up in big spheres throughout my undergarments. I plan on using scentlok and still use scentlok regardless but I really hope they increase quality control. I know this stuff works. I just need a product that can work as hard as I do. As I have said in the past I would go back to the green, hard as cardboard outfits that they had when they came out with it. That stuff worked. I just wish I knew how many cycles I could hit it in the dryer with and still be able to recharge the carbon.
Gregg, I actually agree with your comment to an extent, their garments are getting better (other than their gloves which are poorly made) from what they used to be. And 20 years ago when I would wash my suits (I never wash them anymore), I would have the carbon ball up in lumps. Never happens when properly de-adsorbed in the dryer only. Great comment though.
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John, if you ever have any interest in hunting the mountains of western NC reach out. I would love to see what you could pull out of here. The bucks get very old in those larual thickets but everyone around here has trouble killing them, a lot simply die of old age. Extremely hard to get to arears in rough terrain. I think mostly due to constant swirling wind . You have a better scent control regiment then anyone I know. Thanks for all your info !
Iv been using scent lok for as long as I can remember?
Before I started using scent lok , I would hear deer snorting ,and blowing at me almost every time I went to the woods.
Far as I’m aware of , I haven’t had a deer smell me one time since Iv been using it.
He’s telling the truth concerning about not worrying about the wind direction.
We have had deer come in from straight down wind on a numerous of times. Once you use these products, and realize they actually work, you want hunt whitetails without them any longer. I like the jumpsuit myself. I use the gloves , the head and face mask. Fully dress in other words in scent lok.
I see these big time show celebrities, all time on hunting shows , saying things like,( he caught our wind , and busted us), are (the wind has changed direction so we have too move places.). All these things could had simply been eliminated, by scentlok.
I’m not saying the wind direction isn’t important, a hunter should put ever advantage to his side that he can, however it’s not that important if you have scent lok on.
I make my on scent killer spray,I play the wind game when I can, and I always go too the woods with full confidence that no matter what ever takes place , a deer isn’t going too smell because of the scent Lok products.
So for whatever it’s worth I’m a 60 year old , honest man , telling you my pass experience with scent lok products.It’s the real deal, worthy of the price if your a serious deer hunter.( Get You some, you want regret it, but you must wash it and use it as directed, and never ever put it on until you get to the woods. I know John recommends not washing it , and I agree up to a certain point.If you sweat, a lot in them, are have them really muddy, are bloody, that kind of thing they will need cleaning, however don’t do it unless it’s necessary).
My experience has been similar. Sometimes I don't think it is that they can't smell you at all. They think you are gone or are much farther away than you are and therefore are not a threat.
John I love your videos and thanks for all of them! Had a question? I just turned 41 the 7th and I use to hunt when I was younger and through my twenties and thirties I competed in mixed martial arts,so I didn't really have any time for hunting. I'm getting back into hunting now and actually killed my first buck two years ago. I'm just getting into the scent control thing but what about your bow? Or your sticks and platform? Just started targeting box and I didn't get to that I was watching last year on public land. Really enjoy public hunting and it's replaced the competition drive from competing. Plenty of time to prepare for next year but would like your info on what you do for other things than your clothing? I worked as an arborist for years so saddle hunting came easy and I actually have your saddle. I made some mods to it but I really enjoy your saddle! Going to use it next year as well but I'm going to put magnets in the panels. We have Amish in my area that do that work as well.
Hey John … I like the video and got large respect … I did see you with a face mask that wasn’t scent lock … do you sometimes not wear the scent lock and just do the best you can with wind direction. Also do you have any suggestions to a scent free suit besides scent Lock… maybe cheaper in price ?
Great video John!
Great information John keep it up.
That's the plan
One of my biggest thoughts on scentlock was the “reactiviation” of the carbon. In my water treatment classes, we talked about how activated carbon is used in treating odors in wastewater and drinking water treatment (which has me more curious about using scentlock). However, I was always confused about your reactivation process. Activated carbon needs to be in temperatures between 500 to 800 degrees Celsius to reactivated, of which a dryer cannot reach. So have you really reactivated the carbon in your gear?
Well, you're halfway correct. To reactivate activated carbon to its pristine state (with ZERO molecules in the pores), you need to heat it to 1450 degrees, while under pressure in the absence of air. To de-adsorb it for further hunting use, a dryer does the job at 150 degrees and that was proves at Rutgers University in a laboratory by a scientist that works exclusively on activated carbon studies. That test was mandated in a lawsuit against ScentLok and they passed it with flying colors. De-adsorption at lower temperatures works in the exact same manner as low heat ranges (80 to 90 degree sunny days) which causes molecule to energize and expand, and that is why there are expansion joints in concrete highways, steel structure bridges, high rise structures with steel frameworks to name a few.
One more Q… what ur take on blockers outdoor’s cold fusion Carbon Vs. scentlok’s cabin alloy? Is it the same? Deer lord I want to use scentlok but god it expensive. Blocker outdoors a bit cheaper. Thanks again for ur knowledge
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This is why I like John. He doesn't bull shit. I can't stomach most tv show deer hunters. Their regality is not mine and never will be. I hunt a very high pressure public areas with low a deer density. There is no such thing as getting the wind right to be able to access a stand location unless you want to add miles and extra river or lake crossings your walk. As for clothing, I think people hate on Scentlock and the like because they think all they have to do is put on a Scentlok outfit and it will act like a magic cloak. When it doesn't they get upset. Their expectations are too high. I don't do all the stuff John does, and I still have seen a large increase in my success. Everything I wear is Scentlok now. I have to hunt hard just to see a deer let alone get a chance to kill one. I rarely if ever get busted. Deer blowing at me in the near distance is a thing of the past. In 25 years of deer hunting I have only had the opportunity at 5 mature bucks. All but one came after I started wearing Scentlok. The 3 I killed were all with Scentlock. One came from down wind. One stood on the trail I walked in on just an hour before. The other was on a morning with a swirling wind.
I'm still getting busted from time to time with scentloc. Second year using them. But I Will say, they make mighty fine warm and comfortable clothing
Then you're doing something wrong is your head completely covered hands completely covered pants over boots and all clothes scentlok including all your clothes underneath your outer suit
@@dennybirchfield I'm still using traditional head covers because scentlocs are gigantic! I've called them and begged them to make a cover alot smaller
Scentlok torno scentlok I'm still going to look and see what way the wind is blowing for a walk in the woods it's just who I am
@@mr.skeptical3071 If you use a traditional headcover, and not a ScentLok headcover with drop down facemask, you WILL get winded!!!
@@johneberhart4062 thier head covers are huge!! I wish they would make one that is very snug, I have a pretty small head
thanks im going get complete set of scent lock suit
I absolutely believe that activated charcoal will absorb scent. However, I'm not convinced that domestic dryers will reactivate it. I've looked for the Rutgers study, but, haven't been able to find it.
I read it. It used to be available online. Everything John is saying is truthful.
Hey john, ive heard you say that once you wear a base layer its contaminated and does not go back in the box, shouldn't scentloc take care of that? Also, after a scentfree soap shower do you put on "scent free" clothing for the drive out to the woods? Im thinking if you take that shower it would be useless to just put on any clean smelling clothes out of the dresser.
John,
I wear eyeglasses. When I use a a drop down face mask I find the fogging of my glasses irritating. What can you recommend to help with that.
Last year I took the plunge buying Scentlok and it’s really eyebrow raising Had a doe and mature buck cross my entrance trail and not a signal response from them It’s almost unbelievable what this stuff does
It is unbelievable and when I began using it, I never thought I would end up totally negating wind direction, just thought it would aid immensely in getting more opportunities and having deer wind me less.
@@johneberhart4062 working so good I bought that B E fortress pants and jacket last year too lol
@@stanp6383 Now that is a heavy suit for really cold weather.
@@johneberhart4062 I wore on a day that was in the 20s and blowing 20-30 mph and never got cold… got sick with Covid and the flu the following day but 🤷🏼♂️
@@stanp6383 No doubt, it is the warmest suit they offer and for this year the insulation in that suit is Primaloft. Ever try a heated vest?
Hello Mr. E, what is ur take on soaking the hunting clothing with activated carbon powder mixed with water and air dry it. Have u tried this? Would this be as effective as scentlok? If u tried this does it work and how long? If not why?
Cattails make a good substitute for milkweed
If you had to pick 1 item to leave behind for a hunt would it be your hunting saddle or scentloc?
Great question!! It would depend on what location I was going in to hunt and what the wind direction was on the hunt. If it were a location where I was 90 plus % certain the deer would come on a specific route and the wind was correct from my tree, I would leave the ScentLok behind. In a bedding area where deer could come from any direction, the saddle would be left behind. It would be situational for each specific. Overall, the saddle would be left behind most often as I fell absolutely naked without my ScentLok clothing on.
Does scent blocker use activated carbon legitimately the same as scentlok? I got a lightweight blocker set about 10 years ago. but from what I’ve heard you say before is that scentlok is the only company w the patent for the activated carbon. That still true today ?
John, have you ever covered how you handle scent control on your saddle?
Found it
Scentlock does nothing in South Florida bow season but create a TON of extra sweat.
What about the scent blocker suits how do they differ from scent lok ? I’ve used both but not sure if one is better than the other? What’s your take on them John??
Scentlock bought out Scent Blocker way back. I don't know if they are still connected. Scent Blocker doesn't use activated carbon, at least the newer stuff anyway.
What is your opinion on Ozone? More-so using ozone bags to impregnate clothing with ozone?
He mentioned ozone in another video I believe and don’t quote me on this but he uses ozone to clean odor from his vehicle but doesn’t use it on his gear because ozone is also a foreign scent that could spook a mature buck
@@Slooperdooper99 I would agree that it may spook mature bucks, it makes sense, thank you!
ozone breaks down vey rapidly prolly by the time you get your clothes out of the bag, put them on then walk to your stand itll be all dissipated. however for a quick dry washing of hunting clothes, im very into ozone. works amazing for quickly breaking down organic odors i use a generator i made and a plastic tub cause its easier than bringing a functional washing machine. just dont breath too much of it, it definitely has an odor but because it dissipates so quickly its great for freshening up my gear without worry.
@@anotheryoutuber_ I agree 100%, I use an ozone bag for the past 3 seasons for clothing.
OK John I know you touched on this before but I’m still kind of puzzled if I put my scent lock suit on and do everything the way you describe I still have a huge walk in to get where I am hunting if I change my clothes and put my scent lock on anywhere around my spot that I’m going to be hunting then I am leaving scent in the area and on my walk in
Overall what I’m trying to accomplish is being able to enter and exit with a little Scent as possible but my body likes to sweat
@@trackingwatertrails4914 I'm a profuse sweater as well and need to do a video on entries and exits and what to wear to keep from sweating. In some southern climates I think it would be impossible to keep from sweating even if wearing shorts and a T-shirt. Like you, I think that garment control on long walks is a huge deal. One of my main goals over the years has been to go all season with sweating on my entries and exits and during many seasons I've done it on every hunt. I wear as minimal as possible on entries according to weather and oftentimes will wear one of my older ScentLok lightweight base layer tops and bottoms to my tree and change out at the base of the tree. The older base garments had the exact same carbon liners as the suits so it had the same coverage concerning adsorption. Their newer base garments have lass carbon and some panels have zero. I've kept my old stuff and only use it when I need for entries and exits as its like wearing a ballerina suit.
@@johneberhart4062 I have tried so hard to try to limit as much scent that changing at the base of a tree has always concerned me so much I have even changed at the top of the tree, but then I think about wind direction so I become so confused.
How are you able to eliminate the human scent caused by your exhaling?
Scent Shield Men's Deodorant Gum
Paramedics don’t really use activated carbon much anymore. Same with the ER.
Where can we get the scent control documents?
Wind speed and direction are always important variables due to the fact that a mature buck will typically move with the wind in his favor as he knows that his nose is his primary sensor. So it is always a good idea to factor the wind speed and direction into the equation when calculating probabilities of a mature bucks movement patterns. The scent control via activated carbon is definitely great advice, however certain junction points can be a real problem. Mouth breathers, especially those that drink a lot of alcohol and coffee will always have to avoid being upwind of a mature buck, no matter what they do with activated carbon. Also, there are guys in the hunting industry that know how to get it done on a mature buck so attempting to destroy your competition in that manner is quite crude and untrue when you use a blanket statement as if you’re the “god” of whitetails and everyone else is inferior. You’re a great hunter no doubt, but show some class and respect for other guys that have proven to be successful throughout the years. The combination of knowledge of the truth, passion, respect, and proven success are the keys to being a respectable role model and good teacher.
John Eberhart isn't trying to destroy anyone. He's calling out the so called experts that claim there's no way to fool a deer's nose. These TH-cam "experts" obviously haven't gone to the lengths required to get the most out of Scent-Lok. John Eberhart has, and so have I. Yes, guys can be successful without Scent-Lok, it's proven every year. But I wonder how much more successful they would be if they used Scent-Lok correctly.
And, I think John Eberhart's record speaks for itself. He's earned the right to be outspoken.
He does say “it might seem arrogant or cocky”.. but he is speaking about guys that hunt dream states and make it seem more difficult for tv when the reality is the “mature buck” they are hunting has never been shot at and walked by them multiple times, smelled them and might even think they are harmless because they plant the food they eat..I don’t think he is trying to destroy any competition because he doesn’t have a tv show. But I get what your saying and he does come off arrogant sometimes but I still like him and his knowledge.
@@V1KTOR33 he is brutally honest living in the midwest the amount off racked bucks he has harvested is proof off his success
Hrs not a teacher he's a world class whitetail hunter in mutilple states he gives his opinion only that's it. He's never claimed to be the God of deer
Nothing you said has any truth to it
What do you use to pee in when your on a all day hunt John? Thank you sir for your time and info.
Glass bottle, wide mouth.... you will see one in his backpack video and also on his "Mommy of Death Wagon" video on Greg's G2 Outdoors channel (he's the Army guy from Tethrd)
Just pee off your stand.
@@cjr4497 lol I’ll let you test that one out for yourself.
And what suit would you suggest I u could only get one
Forefront which is a midweight suit and a midweight headcover.
Thank you sir you are awesome
Trust the Process
Good stuff John. Your evolution with Scent Lok sounds awful familiar to me. It took a while through trial and error to figure out how to properly use it. There is no doubt in my mind that it works when used properly. I have the results to prove it on my wall…none of which were shot during my pre scent lok days. I think most of the guys who try to poo poo it just don’t want to go through the effort. That’s fine, just say that. Don’t try to dismiss it as fairy dust. Most of the guys dismissing it also look like they haven’t taken a shower in a week too so that shows what their regiment is like. I could go on and on
You've got that right, I can tell immediately just by looking at some peoples hygiene or interior of their vehicle or house, if they are detail oriented enough to do a scent control regimen.
@@johneberhart4062 exactly! And then there’s the guys who say to only hunt a spot once or twice and after that it’s burnt out. Not for me. I don’t pound any spot but can certainly hunt several times. The amount of deer crossing my entry trail and not even batting an eye is too many to remember. There’s just so many advantages to using a scent control regiment.
What is your opinion on chlorophyll? I take it every fall.
I think it helps. For certain, it can't hurt.
@@johneberhart4062 Thanks for the reply! I feel the same. I take it plus sent locker showers and so on. Shot Two two year in A row over 140 the biggest 158 and last year had one in the 150's at 15 yards and my limb cracked. All on high pressured MN state land. Thank you for all the info you provide in these videos!
@@staroutdoors3361 That is awesome
Chlorophyll...more like borophyll.
The TV guys are a joke. If they hunted the public that I do, I'd chew them up. We work our asses off year round to single out a decent 4 year old every other season
I don’t think there is a 100% way of beating a deers nose but I think you can get close enough that a deer will think I it’s old scent.
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I doubt it and don't care. Reality is reality!
@@johneberhart4062 I’m with ya man, I put your videos on all the time just to learn and listen. You have taught me as well as several other hunters to be more efficient and successful. Learned more from you than any of the tv guys
If one farts in a scentlok suit, it can not be smelled?
I shit myself in 1
@@Briguy933 lmao!
Was just a joke hahha
Good video… two problems I have.
1. Saying hunters are lazy assuming
They can afford technology if they don’t use it. It would be lazy TO use this stuff. You’re essentially turning public land bucks into high fence deer. Be a man and muck it out the traditional way with wind.
2. Second you confirmed you got paid more than a penny from scentloc your credibility disappears
Still like this… something to think about here
When is the regime
I wrote a comment on that Denny
Typical criticism of jon‘s ideas about scentlok is that since he hunts so high, this negates a lot of the scent by itself. Anybody out there who uses scent lock hunting from the ground or very low with consistent success?
Sorry Mike but I have always hunted relatively high in comparison to most other hunters so I don't get picked. Before using ScentLok I got winded frequently from the heights I hunted. That's back when I used archaic milkweed to track thermals and swirling wind currents, so obviously I saw my thermals gong to the ground. If you use milkweed, you must have witnessed the same thermals.
@@johneberhart4062 do you ever hunt the more remote northern michigan swamps? In most of the thick cedar/black spruce swamp habitat I hunt, its hard to imagine having a decent shot at anything being very high up in a tree. There's just so much cover and low branches it would be impossible to shoot an arrow through. I sometimes can clear shooting lanes but sometimes it's even too thick for that so I'm forced to hang low
@@ajdrew252 Yes, I've hunted in a couple cedar swamps in the Up in the 80's and in a couple around Harrison. You are 100% correct, if you get too high, you can't see squat. In cedar swamps I was typically about 12 to 15 feet up the tree and had the tree cleared out for very specific runways. I once took a buck from a cedar at 6 yards and I was only 12 feet up the tree. I felt like I could touch him. I rarely hunt that type of ground anymore and when in timber as in a swampy bedding area or timber with understory, it's rare when I hunt below 25 feet to my feet.
@@johneberhart4062 thanks for the feedback. Good to know I'm not the only one. I typically am in that 15ft height range. I get caught by deer every now and then, mostly by scent but sometimes they see me...but it beats sitting on the ground. It's a tough game up here in northern lower peninsula with the thick habitat, vast wilderness, smaller deer that don't see humans very often. I imaging the UP is even harder!
@@ajdrew252 I found the UP to be rather easy, there are just so few deer since they brought in the wolves.
John, I’ve taken a lot of information from your videos and podcasts and am a better hunter because of it. I want to offer some feedback on this video because I don’t feel it lives up to the rest of your content.
I’m more than half way through this video and I’ve yet to learn anything about the procedures for developing a scent control regime. It’s been a half hour of talking shit about other hunters and telling anecdotal stories. Great deer camp banter but this is not educational. You have made your point that the wind and scent control matter. Beyond that nothing useful has been conveyed and I’m now at the 40 minute mark.
Thanks for the videos and the effort as always. But this one seems far more like shop talk than educational.
Bryan, thanks for your comment and you are 100% correct about the repetitive information if you've been listening to me for a while, or I have sent you all the scent control documents. However, just like when I wrote the instructional bowhunting books, I had to write the second and third books with a lot of the same information as the first book because I couldn't assuming that the reader had read either of the other books. So, since this is going to be a series of videos encompassing scent control, I felt like I had to begin by discussing repetitive thing (to you) about TV guys, misuse of ScentLok, some of the technology, swirling winds and thermals, how I had to hunt when I paid attention to wind direction, etc. I'm being very serious when I say, if you have been listening to me for a while, you can likely dismiss watching this and maybe even part 2, but I have to lay a foundation for new listeners. Please bear with me as the proper care, use and storage will be in part 3. The next video on Friday evening will be a kill story.
That's why the title says part 1.
Tonight is the TH-cam video you want to watch and be patient, the on hands begins about 9 minutes in.
Seems like he can talk about whatever he wants in his video, he’ll put out the hands on in another video and it’s fun talking shit about “hunters” hunting tame deer..
Good video like what you have to offer. But I have killed a lot of bucks 6 point or better every year. I clean my clothes a keep them in a tub but don't use sentlock. An I don't get winded it important a deers smell but if every human oder spook them they would be running scared every second of the day.
Heres the thing rubber boots arent scentlock lined or infused so ive always seen bicarbonate spray good for hitting your rubber boots with before going into the woods...John how can you say that your completely scentfree when your boots arent scentlock boots? My point is that technically your suit isnt 100% scentlock if your not head to toe?
Im not talking about the throat of the boot im talking about the actual bottom rubber sole of the boot and the sides that are exposed?
Rubber boots don’t have seams to let scent out. The only scent coming out of the boots is at the top, therefore having scentlok pants over the tops of the boots would trap the scent coming out of the top
@@clayton8869 my point is until they make a rubber "scentlock" infused boot you can completely wrap your feet in then you cant say your using 100% scentlock because the very bottom of your feet arent protected by scentlock.
@@clayton8869 im not talking about the inside of the boot im talking about the outside of the boot...thee outside actual rubber of the boot that touches the ground.
@@clayton8869 Thanks Clayton
@@vonbirddog2713 Have you ever even considered why trappers for wolves, coyotes, fox use rubber boots?????????? Because rubber doesn't allow odors through them. If trappers used leather or cordura boots for dog style predators, they would have a lot of empty traps. Next????
I am a Believer and set lock I watched it work with my own eyes when she walked across my trail you mature oh no you know and now catch you all the time she hit someone and I'm sure it was my ground s*** but I kind of had that cover with those nose jammer she She hit that stop for a second and now you ate it in turn Around went the other way thought about it and come right back right through my SIM cone and the wind was blowing dead in her face she never spooked or nothing I mean she got a little Larry I don't think it was toward human I think it was just a unknown sense to her to her I'm that nose jammer but if I wouldn't to use it she might not have like stopped on my trail at all I watched it worked 2 or 3 times so far away with the wind blowing dead in her face I'll never go back I'll never go Away from sentlok
If it wasn't for activated carbon you'd be able to smell refineries from 150 miles away
this video / comment section is so dumb lol
Stop telling people!!!! If the hunting community figures this out, competition will get real tough! Lol!
Here's a test I'd like to see. Fill a bucket with activated carbon, hide drugs in the middle of it, making sure carbon completely surrounds it.... then see if a drug dog alerts on it.
That would be a good test, but I don't know if it would work. Drug dogs are trained to react to ANY minute amount of drug odor molecules and if less that 1% of the odor was identifiable, it would likely be enough to trigger a trained dog. Deer will accept minute amounts of predator (we are their main predator), danger odors as they would just think the danger is too far away to be a threat. Also keep in mind that when deer with a properly used ScentLok suit, that the 1 to 2% of odor the hunter may emit, is immensely diluted into the environment before any of it would hit a deer's nose. Trained dogs are smelling thing at point blank distances.
But it would be an easy test to throw together. I'd be curious to see.
@@davetoms63 Yes it would.
Well trained dogs can scent a corpse under several feet of water.
@@Dennis-mf8sw You do realize that odor molecules are emitting from a dead corpse and rising to the top of the water and this happens for a long period of time.
You’re probably right about a lot of stuff but dude the level of arrogance you have in every video you post is enough to make me want to just go watch Whitetail Habitat Solutions.
talk is cheap I want to see some videos this fall of you shooting deer in your downstream scent stream.
You have got to be kidding, right?
I feel like the proof is in the trophy collection……….so this man’s talk is not cheap at all and it’s amazing he’s willing to hand out his hard earned knowledge for free.
You obviously don't know who this guy is!
@@johneberhart4062 LOL well if you swear by these scentlock suits then it shouldn't be that hard to get it on film right?
@@MrArcher51 And you believe everything you see on film? That's pretty naive in itself.
Gather around everybody and listen to Grandpa tell everyone how he shot 4 P&Y bucks in 60 years in Michigan a state where there's only 8 bucks and they live underground.