POLICE K9 vs "SCENT CONTROL" Products (Do They ACTUALLY Work??)

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  • In this episode of Seek One, we have a police drug sniffing K9 test five different hunting scent control products.
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ความคิดเห็น • 857

  • @contemporaryprimitiveman3469
    @contemporaryprimitiveman3469 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    True story- a few years ago I knew a trespasser was hunting my land. I found where he was driving into a neighbors land, hiding his truck in a low draw, and walking in to hunt mine. He left his truck with a bottle of scent blocking spray on his tailgate.
    I emptied the bottle and refilled it from my bladder and put it back on his tailgate.

    • @alaskaprimal907
      @alaskaprimal907 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s awesome!

    • @mikemellon80
      @mikemellon80 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s is the best thing I’ve heard in a long time

  • @jbrooksy
    @jbrooksy ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I would love to see this test done with John Eberhart all suited up in his scentlok gear.

  • @CodyV207
    @CodyV207 3 ปีที่แล้ว +256

    Always remember, our grandpa’s used to walk into the woods after working all day, lean up against a tree and smoke a cigarette and kill big deer.

    • @conservativeprodigy2604
      @conservativeprodigy2604 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      And most likely the wind was NOT blowing towards the deer. Otherwise they wouldn’t have killed big deer

    • @kpautorepair1438
      @kpautorepair1438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Uphill both ways

    • @shanewhitman4312
      @shanewhitman4312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@conservativeprodigy2604 you would think so but I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been out turkey hunting and sitting in the blind smoking a cig with no scent covers or anything considering we’re hunting turkey and had big deer walk straight up to the blind and stick there heads in

    • @mk5gaming888
      @mk5gaming888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      My grandpa would always smoke his cigars and would kill deer. He always said it doesn’t matter what you smell like it only matters where the wind blows. Always keep that in mind.

    • @Backdaft94
      @Backdaft94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Yeah and we aren’t hunting the same deer that Grandpa did either.

  • @dustinrigsby1919
    @dustinrigsby1919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I’ve always been convinced that scent blockers never work to hide your scent. All they do is paint an illusion that you are farther away from them than what you really are which gives you an advantage. Also the deer rarely get close enough to pinpoint the source before it’s too late!! Enjoyed the educational purposes of the video tho.

    • @davidhammer154
      @davidhammer154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Bingo. Most deer have encountered humans and human smell many times. But as they touched on at the end the key is reducing the smell to a level they dont feel that the threat is nearby. In other words its so weak they thing it is either days old or far away. I tried ozonics last year combined with scent control and i had many deer downwind under 50 yards and they were spooky as heck but they didnt blow and they didnt run off. Without anything in the past when they got downwind it was game over. Deer blowing like crazy and running off looking back right at me lol

    • @jimc9253
      @jimc9253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You never totally eliminate human scent

    • @charlessprayberry1048
      @charlessprayberry1048 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidhammer154 went out past few days hunting small piece of property 60 acres and had deer spooked from my morning stand in the afternoon hunt I was close enough to hear them blowing 3 different times through the afternoon… last time I went out I rubbed pine all over me and had a doe with two yearlings come up to my tree got a lil scared but didn’t blow feel like you can not really ever cover up your scent from an adult deer

    • @tonyviers-de9qi
      @tonyviers-de9qi ปีที่แล้ว

      Most people dont know what it takes to eliminate your scent. Most of the remaining people are too lazy to go through it all. Wind is your friend….. use it

    • @pathaggerty45
      @pathaggerty45 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The ticket is to be down wind

  • @jamesdodson9417
    @jamesdodson9417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I seen a drug dog hit a bundle of dope wrapped in tape and that was vacuumed sealed and that was dipped in transmission fluid vacuum seal again then wrapped in carbon paper vacuum sealed again and inside a welded metal container inside a gas tank and the dog hit it like nothing, I couldn’t believe it , these k-9s don’t get enough credit for their capabilities also the dedication from the Handlers . Great test thanks for y’all’s hard work .

    • @primalcritters
      @primalcritters 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel like the drug packer should have gotten some serious props for all the effort though. I'm sure he got a lot of jail time instead. But seriously, I appreciate that dedication

  • @cethmar3638
    @cethmar3638 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I would like to see John Eberhart do his "scent control regime" and jump in one those boxes just to end the debate. The only scent control is the wind. Period.

    • @jackbuys3711
      @jackbuys3711 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      my exact thoughts. Let John set the rules and everything and let the dog go.

    • @scottbrowning2784
      @scottbrowning2784 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm sure he would if he hunted dogs trained to follow human scent.

    • @cethmar3638
      @cethmar3638 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scottbrowning2784 so you admit he is not scentless. End of debate...

    • @scottbrowning2784
      @scottbrowning2784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cethmar3638 🤣

  • @meghan7547
    @meghan7547 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Only way to beat the nose, be downwind of it, period

    • @sixthday132
      @sixthday132 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Period

    • @samschetter3847
      @samschetter3847 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I always hunt down wind because of the way our property is layed out and me and my family have killed big deer and I personally have never been winded by a deer you just have to learn how to have good scent control

    • @meghan7547
      @meghan7547 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@samschetter3847 Pretty much impossible for an animal to smell you if you are downwind of it. Basic and simple, be downwind

    • @samschetter3847
      @samschetter3847 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@meghan7547 yea and have good scent control... just in case the animal circles around you always happens to me.

    • @YT-DAD-BASS-ASSASSIN
      @YT-DAD-BASS-ASSASSIN 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Truth

  • @casualobserver77
    @casualobserver77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Fun fact: nose jammer used in Central FL will attract BIBLICAL PLAGUE levels of love bugs. (During love bug season of course)
    It will ruin your hunt.
    Ask me how I know lol

  • @brandonballinger9714
    @brandonballinger9714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I think scent control is like wearing camouflage while deer hunting. It’s more of a mental/confidence situation. Neither are necessary hunting deer. If you are a good hunter you KNOW what works. And it’s not scent sprays and fancy camo. If you hunt the wind and use proper techniques you can wear a pink dress and some of your dads Brute cologne and still kill deer. JS

    • @boatrvme8478
      @boatrvme8478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hunt the wind...the end!

    • @davidmendenhall4090
      @davidmendenhall4090 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yeah, people forget the Whitetail was almost hunted to extinction by guys wearing plaid wool jackets, with brass framed 44-40s, smoking cigarettes!
      Biggest thing is not letting them know something is afoot so they start trying to counter your wind strategies and low hunting pressure. I've been within 4' of a does in turkey season, several times, with no scent cover, but she couldn't see me and didn't care about the scent cause humans aren't a threat in spring.

    • @boatrvme8478
      @boatrvme8478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davidmendenhall4090 during rut a few years ago I was hunting in ground level box and an 8 point walked up to box and stuck his nose into my shooting window after I had 5 minutes before sprayed some doe in heat out window as wind was swirling!!!! I could have thumped him on nose! It happened so fast I couldn't record.

    • @boatrvme8478
      @boatrvme8478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@davidmendenhall4090 dont forget the .30-30! Some say say more deer have been killed with .30-30 than any other rifle. It has been around since 1895!

    • @jared_122
      @jared_122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      As Fred Bear said the best camouflage pattern is sit down and be quiet your grandpa hunted deer in a red plaid coat

  • @WillWildsOutdoorAdventures
    @WillWildsOutdoorAdventures 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've done a ton of hiking & backpacking in my life & have filmed some of it, one of the reasons I got into hunting is I would see deer & bear just walking through the woods making ton's of foot noise, talking to my camera, no scent control, no camo, white shoes lol, moving briskly, no care of the wind & I still run up on something at least every other hike/trip. Not always but most of the time.
    Since I've been learning to hunt & controlling my speed & just walking slowly & trying to avoid stick's & pine cones I'm seeing only slightly more deer. I feel like there is a divide between the hiking/backpacking & hunting community, from this side looking in the hunters assume a lot of times they are the only person "out there" when in reality you have hikers, backpackers, surveyors, schools, loggers, farmers, poachers, homeless, meth heads & all kinds of other random things that go into places you think are really remote. A lot of animals are used to people & I truly believe don't care nearly as much about us as many of these videos claim, & I ask this if HUNTER X claims scent control really really works like a lot of these talking heads do then what other thing's are they telling you that are also BS that they support?
    Again all that is from a intermediate backpacker & noob hunter but if you just focus on walking slower, not being to loud & going in the woods a lot/covering ground you will be fine getting close to & seeing animals. Some of these critters including the deer & bear are often drawn to sound so one could even say making the right noise helps, I've drawn in a number of deer over the years just making noise or getting something out if my pack & there it is peeking at me from 20 yards away, really my dudes just go out there & go slow you will be fine you don't need to do most of the thing's I've seen in a lot of these videos. But this video is gold.
    In my backpacking/hiking encounters the deer would always hang out for a moment or walk a little closer then leave but one thing that DOES work is a fawn/doe call to bring them back. Once the deer pops out of sight hit that call a few times & so far it will bring them back for another look.
    Hope this helps! Don't fret the small stuff too much you will see nearly the same amount of deer just walking through the woods as the guy spending tons of cash soaked in deer piss moving at a snails pace.

    • @charlessherman7335
      @charlessherman7335 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Most of what you said it true, but there is a difference in being able to see an animal and being able to harvest an animal. In most bow hunting situations they have to get within 30 yards and not be alerted by your movement. Which for most people means being in a blind or up in a tree. I see deer all the time when walking my dog, but normally they are crossing the trail or you just see a white tail and hooves, neither of which I'd be able to take a shot at in a hunting situation.

    • @midwestracksrodsoutdoors
      @midwestracksrodsoutdoors 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@charlessherman7335 agreed. In addition, there's a difference between the tolerance level of a young deer and a mature deer.

    • @ryanburns3921
      @ryanburns3921 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All true statements. I have seen some videos and podcasts talking about the possibility of pheromones playing a role in what the deer do when they smell us. It's been proven that animals, including us, give off different pheromones depending on mood. So the theories researchs/hunters are trying figure out is what types we give off when we're in a "hunting mood" or "predator state" vs in a "joyful hike state". It will be interesting to see what people come up with to test this in the future.

  • @kaitlinscott7760
    @kaitlinscott7760 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love Mattis! Found him on tik tok awhile ago! They’re my favorite! I love seeing what he can do, but I was sobbing when I seen the videos of his retirement 😭

  • @thesowderfamily2374
    @thesowderfamily2374 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I see a flaw in this and that’s they should have sprayed every box with the sprays and then the person. That way the dog doesn’t focus on the box with the spray, because every box has the spray and the dog will solely rely on the smell of a person. Amazing video either way.

    • @kraxl_1034
      @kraxl_1034 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well the only issue with doing that is the fact that the woods doesn’t t smell like scent killer so if the scent killer does have a smell that the deer or a dog could pick up then you would know not to use that brand

    • @thesowderfamily2374
      @thesowderfamily2374 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kraxl_1034 I agree with you on that, I didn’t think about it that way.

  • @guswirgau5292
    @guswirgau5292 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Kg, Chris bee and seek on all in one day, wow

  • @RealRadNek
    @RealRadNek 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Back in 2013, I decided to research what is in the most effective scent sprays and I came across a study of a chemist who tested which scent sprays work the best and why. He used live cultured bacteria. Then he published his own DYI formula based on his findings. He demonstrated that his formula actually did kill the germs that cause odor but he also demonstrated that all sprays are limited as far as effectiveness which I think is demonstrated by the dog in your video. This formula was very close to some of the top brand of 2013 as best he could tell. I made his scent spray formula for several years for pennies on the dollar for store bought. If you want to know the formula for the most effective scent spray, I published it on my channel back in 2013 here - th-cam.com/video/-CTVSGngwsU/w-d-xo.html - If you don't want to watch the whole thing just go to the 1:12 mark for the formula and take a screen shot. This formula works as well as any scent spray CAN work but the effectiveness is limited by the very nature of scent sprays. Great content guys, thanks for sharing.

    • @zachbrazeau3886
      @zachbrazeau3886 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome channel, you got a new follower lol

  • @trevormullard3063
    @trevormullard3063 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I'd love to see how the the same test would be out of treestands.

    • @strikeforcek9149
      @strikeforcek9149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You'd have the same result, because of the flaws in the testing methods used and all the cross contamination issues.

    • @softaildiaries
      @softaildiaries 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you'd have the same results because of the walking path to the stand. How long until the scent path is off the ground is the real question?

    • @strikeforcek9149
      @strikeforcek9149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@softaildiaries yeah, the cross contamination that's created during this entire process eliminates the results from being anything else other the therm showing that a dog can indicate on par.
      Your foot scent trail will be there for quite a long time, and brush scents even longer. There's "tracking" and "trailing" for our scent dogs. Tracking is finding the scent on the ground, and trailing is finding the scent in the air when they stick their heads straight up.
      When going to the stand any brush, branches, leaves, ground foliage, or other things youn brush against are going to contain your scent. Given that even if they took descented showers, they more than likely did all of the following that contains powerful scents that re-contaminate themselves
      - dried off with scented towel
      - walked through house with scent signatures all around
      - touched door handles, equipment, and other items that left scent on them
      - drove in a vehicle that resaturated them with tons of scent
      - perspiration when getting going to and from the stand
      - the list goes on and on of ways they resaturate themselves.
      So, all of that leaves a scent trail to follow even if dousing yourself in stuff to implode and neutralize the main scent molecules because you can't get every single square MM of your body and clothes. And since we know canine olfactory abilities are unimaginably superior to most, you're not fooling it just with some sprays unless you put EXTREMELY strict scent control protocols into place to eliminate any cross contaminating.
      But these sprays don't "mask your scent" to the point of making you invisible either. They're designed to give you a weaker scent signature left behind for deer to smell, so they liken your scent trail with a much older or further away scent so that they will likely come in range.
      If deer thinks your further away, they'll come closer in. But, literally NOTHING will beat being downwind of them or a dog even. But, even then, the really mature ones will circle around wide to catch any drifting scent downwind before they move into an area just out of caution and experience.

    • @softaildiaries
      @softaildiaries 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@strikeforcek9149 thanks for the reply, you guys are awsome. You are truly blessed to have such a good pup. He's way better then most deer I encounter. Thanks for y'all's service!

    • @miketaylor3143
      @miketaylor3143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@softaildiaries like they said in the video though, the dog is looking for the scent, and gets a reward for finding it, the deer will avoid it in most cases, i like the skunk analogy, is it enough to scare it off, or does the deer live and habitat close enough to other human areas where the scent is present most times... too many variables. wind is your best weapon, but i'll try anything to make that deer come 10 yards closer... and then of course the rut where they just don't seem to care...

  • @pulpfiction2122
    @pulpfiction2122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    As someone who has worked heavily with ozone sanitation, I highly advise against being in a confined space with an ozone generator. I've seen people get hospitalized do to leaks in their homes.

    • @christiangraham4579
      @christiangraham4579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yes concentrated ozone can be very dangerous even deadly.

    • @chriswright6767
      @chriswright6767 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it safe to use in a ground blind ?

    • @pulpfiction2122
      @pulpfiction2122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chriswright6767 It really depends on the size of the generator, the size of the space, and the duration it's going to run. A couple minutes might make your lungs feel weird, but won't send you to the ER. I still wouldn't recommend it though, it's really not good for you to breathe in.

    • @christiangraham4579
      @christiangraham4579 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chriswright6767 you don’t want to be in close proximity with ozone for a long period of time. I would say no. But it depends on how much ventilation you have. And at that point the ozone wouldn’t be doing much to sanitize your scent.

    • @eddiewhitehead6335
      @eddiewhitehead6335 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've seen that first hand being in apartment maintenance for a few years, they won't let you in that unit if the ozone machine is running.

  • @connornettles1576
    @connornettles1576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    I’d like to see a similar test, but instead of being in a box on a ground go to the next level. Put yourself in a tree stand/saddle at hunting height. Will that height make a difference? Will the dog be able to pick out the tree you’re in? Just something that came to mind while watching. Good video

    • @sixthday132
      @sixthday132 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      I'm a K9 handler and did that test on a friend in a 20ft ladder stand. My buddy was in a scent lock suit, rubber boots, freshly showered with scent killer shampoo and doused with scent killer spray. He was hidden in a 6 acre block of timber. I sent the dog from the downwind side and he found the target like he hadn't showered in days.

    • @matt.denney
      @matt.denney 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@sixthday132 so basically, hunt the wind haha

    • @nathanschool4355
      @nathanschool4355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Hunt the wind. Simple as that. If you only have one stand and it’s the wrong wind. Sit on the couch, enjoy your time with family. Then when the wind is right you will be more successful! A strategic hunter is better than the hunter who goes out every day.

    • @matt.denney
      @matt.denney 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@nathanschool4355 facts. That’s why you set up multiple stands on a property and hunt them solely dependent on the wind.

    • @nathanschool4355
      @nathanschool4355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@matt.denney yes if it’s large enough and you have good access to the stands

  • @officerfoxtrot3633
    @officerfoxtrot3633 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    I think a big factor is also attentive-ness or attention.
    For this test, the dog is focused and actively searching for something he knows is there. A deer is passively scenting the air for something that may be there while it’s attention is focused somewhere else.
    The key is to mitigate your scent and play the wind to a degree where so little of your odor makes it to the deer they overlook it. It doesn’t matter if they smell you if it’s minimized to a degree where they either don’t notice it or they dismiss it.

    • @StoriesUnshown
      @StoriesUnshown 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And, do one test in the morning and in the evening due to thermals rising and falling

    • @andrewflatt1453
      @andrewflatt1453 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Absolutely correct, couldn’t have explained it better myself

    • @mikeymac7867
      @mikeymac7867 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But a deer also has much better olfactory sensitivity than a dog (I've heard 1000x better), and as a prey animal, will avoid anything that is "wrong".
      Avoiding being upwind is a better approach imo

    • @chrisunruh6485
      @chrisunruh6485 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s exactly what I was going to say. It’s a cool experiment but all we learned is if you’re running from the cops and they bring out the dogs you’re screwed. lol for real it was a neat to watch though

    • @carltonbottenbley2118
      @carltonbottenbley2118 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is 100% true, I have had dogs walk right past their favorite food and miss it in the grass and then telling them to search is a elevated to their senses that there is something there because the dog is trusting their handler. So this isn’t a test of smell at all.
      Passively smelling is way different then active alerted smelling. Just like the handler said he is active using a search pattern. Deer scan and move and smell passively and in most areas are used to some human smell think WMA. But if a deer is in a heighten state of alertness there isn’t a single thing that it won’t run from a smell or a bird chirp or stick snapping or a squirrel. That’s why we hunt bedding areas because the deer a calm and not alerted and relaxed so they are actively looking for threats.

  • @Re-liner_outdoors
    @Re-liner_outdoors 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Y’all should have got John eberhart! I heard he had his skin replaced with a scent lock suit.

    • @Chalz108
      @Chalz108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      John eberhart is a scent lock robot sent to us from another universe to sell us scent lock products and he also kills big bucks

    • @MrShysterme
      @MrShysterme 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except key areas remain cordura to put up with abrasion.

    • @MrShysterme
      @MrShysterme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Chalz108 Scenterminator?

    • @Chalz108
      @Chalz108 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrShysterme "key areas" if you know what I mean 😏😉

    • @connorjacoby8434
      @connorjacoby8434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      John eberhart takes it to a whole new level compared to these guys. Only handles the cloths with clean gloves, air tight totes, face mask, etc.. He might not completely fool a deers nose but I believe he does a good enough job to make them believe he isn't close and a threat

  • @curtisethridge1746
    @curtisethridge1746 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great job guys ! I agree with everything that your test may have proven. BTW I had a German Shepard that looked just like your K-9 friend there and his nose was incredible. Sometimes I think we overthink scent control products. By far the best scent control product is the wind and it has to be in our favor or your busted. I have tried everything and I can’t say anyone one product worked better than the others. Now days I just look for cedar trees and pine trees and rub the oil from the young trees on my clothes and boots. I also put my boots in a box with corn in it when in the truck. It may not work but it saves me
    money for better arrows and broad heads by not buying expensive sprays that may or may not work. Lol ! Thanks guys ! Great job !! 👍👍

  • @B.r.i.a.n.1
    @B.r.i.a.n.1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Myth busters did an epic scent show. Proved you can not beat a dogs/deer nose!
    That dog is amazing, and he's having a blast!.... Lucky puppy. Great handler and buddy.

  • @buckeye6256
    @buckeye6256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Something I learned 20 years ago was to hunt high. Like no less than 23 feet and have never had a deer wind me since I started doing that. I never use sprays or Any of that junk. But enclosed box blinds work to.

  • @stevenjones4054
    @stevenjones4054 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Got to remember that in early bow season the bucks are a hell of lot more smarter than when the rut happens
    When I was younger and rutting my scent of smell was locked in on one thing and just like the deer makes you lose focus on your surroundings,I almost got killed several times myself

  • @reverencehunting
    @reverencehunting ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating videos guys! thank you for taking the time to put all this together!

  • @rdsii64
    @rdsii64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    So does this mean that I should just concentrate on wind direction when I hunt, and not worry about "scent control"?

    • @calebbolen2634
      @calebbolen2634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That was literally the conclusion I just came too

    • @lancescott1453
      @lancescott1453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Bingo

    • @dualthreatoutdoors
      @dualthreatoutdoors 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sprays are a waste but Scentlok is much better

    • @cagfd7
      @cagfd7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nothing will fool a deer's nose. HUNT THE WIND!

    • @ElevatedTines
      @ElevatedTines 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I always use elk or deer piss on my soles and legs, doesn't cover it up but it absolutely does not say human 🤣 and I've had does and fawns follow up behind me and walk past with me in the bush off the trail. I held my rifle out and she walked by grazing it close

  • @greathornedowl3644
    @greathornedowl3644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love the channel. Having a good time with friends wherever you go. Think bow hunting, especially deer hunting, is a lost art. Love the Christian bend - thanking God. Keep up the good work.

  • @michaeltibbs8660
    @michaeltibbs8660 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    100 percent smoke covers human scent and deer don’t relate that to a threat for the most part . You guys should try a smoker from tractor supply see if it helps you game changer for me

    • @thatred7.379
      @thatred7.379 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree 100%

    • @dishpointer
      @dishpointer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have used a bee smoker with wood chips for over 20 years with excellent success . Deer don't associate the smoke with humans. It works! Think about it. The only reason you don't see the big companies advertise it is because they can't make money on it. Try it and you will be convinced.

    • @BowhuntingRoad
      @BowhuntingRoad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hope you are not actually serious.

    • @BowhuntingRoad
      @BowhuntingRoad 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dishpointer So do you think the deer cannot smell you and the smoke? I don't think I could buy that.

    • @dishpointer
      @dishpointer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BowhuntingRoad I'm not saying they can't smell you, I'm saying using smoke doesn't alarm them. They don't associate it with a human. You can believe what you want. I've used smoke for 20 years and I know it works. I still use scent control on my gear and use soap, I just add smoke to everything before I go out. The only draw back is you smell like a campfire when you get home and need to shower.

  • @metal_mo
    @metal_mo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    11:07 I was wondering when the payback for the eyeball spray at the beginning was going to happen. LOL

  • @themaxamealianomega
    @themaxamealianomega ปีที่แล้ว +1

    id love to see this test using scent block stuff with active carbon

  • @shannoncountyoutdoors118
    @shannoncountyoutdoors118 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The last part about killing me it sounded like a Joe Biden speech 😂😂😂

  • @pehenryjr
    @pehenryjr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My hunting mentor explained it to me as simply as this cover scents are still scents! 8-9 months out of the year the deer are walking through the woods never ever smelling Hunter specialties, dead downwind, nose Jammer... Until you come creeping

  • @BowhuntingRoad
    @BowhuntingRoad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think most people are not gullible enough to think that we can eliminate odor, or just hunt while ignoring the wind. There are a few, I suppose, who don't figure this out right away but they eventually learn that eliminating odor is not an attainable goal. But there is a lot of value in reducing human odor, which is what I use Scent Killer for. Reducing ground scent while traveling to and from your hunting location is a good example. th-cam.com/video/ax8vMJMnV3s/w-d-xo.html

  • @HangImHigh
    @HangImHigh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    man you just killed the sales of Sent Keller like 50%

  • @jameslong654
    @jameslong654 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Need to try this again with the ozonics system. I don’t see how it would work just like “scent eliminators”

  • @christopherpusey2735
    @christopherpusey2735 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The dog is just focusing on Lee’s ground scent well first it’s euphoric recall then it’s groundscent super cool video though

  • @jonathankohl6264
    @jonathankohl6264 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Educational video. Props To the police officer for taking time help out with his K9. Seems like there is absolutely no way to get rid of or hide your sent. The deer will just smell you and whatever you spray.

  • @SamCarris
    @SamCarris 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Drew said "Lee's in one of these middle boxes" and I thought, well don't say it now Mattis knows! Doof.

  • @tanandtrent
    @tanandtrent 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    21:52 Literally inhuman reflexes. Trainer throws the ball from behind the dog and he notices it hit the box and snatches it up right before it hits the ground.

  • @blakewells9010
    @blakewells9010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    “Goats are like mushrooms, if you shoot a duck I’m scared of toasters” is what he meant to say at the end

    • @nathanh3975
      @nathanh3975 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know that meme 😂 have it saved in my phone 😂😂😂😂

  • @theironfisherman9814
    @theironfisherman9814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Would urban deer be used to smelling human scent regularly ?

    • @bryce8174
      @bryce8174 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We live in the country and are always up in our woods doing stuff and I always wondered if deer weren't as leery of human scent, meanwhile my friends who are big hunters always say stay out of the woods as much as possible during the hunting season as to not get scent all over, personally I think if deer are use to seeing and smelling humans all the time who aren't posing a threat, they'll be less scared of them

    • @matthewkreider9023
      @matthewkreider9023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I hunt the same kind of areas they do. 80 yards from mansions with joggers and walkers all over. The deer still know when you're in the woods as a posed to walking down the road.

  • @jd9008
    @jd9008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Should have tried smoking your clothes, then smoke all the boxes with a bee smoker. Do it with natural surrounding material. Pine needles, oak leaves, maple leaves. Id be curious about that.

  • @jamesstaley9490
    @jamesstaley9490 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best chances, are when the buck is rut crazed, and wind in your favor, or hunt where deer are use to alot of human scent which is not where most of us hunt. Great show, and content.

  • @louis.g7647
    @louis.g7647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    scent killer products aren't meant to "kill" odor, its more or less made to make you seem like you are further away than what you actually are.

    • @jivarie
      @jivarie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      scent elimination isn't going to make any difference. The only difference is walk in super early. The colder the trail, the better. Beyond that, you're just playing the wind.

    • @louis.g7647
      @louis.g7647 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jivarie listen dude. I’m not giving tips or anything, I’m just letting you know what scent eliminations were made to do.

    • @BowhuntingRoad
      @BowhuntingRoad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Scent killer kills odor that's why it's called scent killer. It will not eliminate odor, just reduce it. Which is what we have known all along and what this video showed. There is value in reducing odor.

  • @dennistrelinski1003
    @dennistrelinski1003 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks! What if the wind was stronger? Or not swirling? And maybe start the dog 100yrds plus. Good work

  • @brettcall6
    @brettcall6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The best way to do this was to take the same item and place them in all of the boxes with a different spray on that item and see which one he goes to first. Once detected, remove that one and then let him do again, and each time remove the one he detects till you get down to the last one. Eliminate the reward so there is no incentive for him to return to the same box.
    I’d be curious to see which scent eliminator, or cover scent is the last one standing.

  • @kyleb8191
    @kyleb8191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like how Jeff Sturgis has put it before. Anything that may minimize your scent trail coming and going to and from the stand. Not word for word but along those lines

  • @country_gbrony721
    @country_gbrony721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would like to know if any product reduces your scent enough to make a deer think you’ve already left? Obviously deer come across predator scent all the time and they must be able to detect concentration or they’d be running all the time. I’ve seen deer come in 30 min after a bear and not spook so they must have known the bear was gone.

  • @CMMC-zb1gw
    @CMMC-zb1gw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video. I want to take a moment to say how much I appreciate y’all’s efforts. This video was not cheap to make. Great job!

  • @4dzone
    @4dzone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great test was quite entertaining. I kinda see it like, you will always know when your wife or kids buys French fries and eats it in your car. The fries scent no matter how much febreeze was sprayed will still linger and I can still smell both.

  • @justinanderson1492
    @justinanderson1492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Follow up with the broadhead video from last year? What y’all shootin

    • @dkjphills79
      @dkjphills79 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed.... not a fan of mechanical bh. What is the broadhead of choice for the 2021 season.

  • @southoutmcknight3263
    @southoutmcknight3263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Pretty cool video. Best thing to take from your video like you said “hunt the wind”.

  • @timber4896
    @timber4896 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I’m 35 years into bow hunting and I’ve never believed any of this crap! If you can smell O zone a week after it’s been in your truck ,imagine what the deer are learning😂 Play the wind people.

  • @ua7833
    @ua7833 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The dog is trained to search by smell. And in any case, she will find the odor neutralizer by smell. For the test to be real, you need to spray all the boxes with an odor neutralizer, and place a person also covered with the same odor neutralizer in one box.

  • @rubencarlos7715
    @rubencarlos7715 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve always known that you can’t hide your scent. But you can dilute it, so maybe the deer thinks your are farther off and doesn’t panic. Maybe it won’t realize you are behind the bush taking aim and about to kill it. Every little bit helps now how about testing the Hecs system
    That would be interesting too

  • @a.barker9178
    @a.barker9178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for spending the time doing this. I loved watching. Good Dog!!!

  • @ajmaltais1270
    @ajmaltais1270 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love this idea, but I have a question. Do you think b/c the k9 was present during the spray down(s) and use of ozonics that he associated those smells to Lee of the bat? This would skew the results as he was not only picking up on Lee, but he was following the associated scent from the spray downs. I think it would be more controlled if the k9 was off site completely before each test.

    • @charlessprayberry1048
      @charlessprayberry1048 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s a great question but the k9 can 100% smell them and the spray and May even relate the spray with the human but can def still smell the human on the hat shirt doesn’t matter there really is no way to hide drugs from a k-9 the can smell through cadaver bags vacuum sealed even though those will minimize the smell drastically! What I’ve seen and heard is you can minimize your smell by using natural items in the locations you hunt and not get the deer to blow but be a lil frighten which I feel they won’t remember as long as when they blow and leave knowing something was there

  • @hollywoodhefner2
    @hollywoodhefner2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't think scent eliminators get rid of your scent totally. What I think is that it helps lessen your scent. So instead of a deer thinking you're 40 yards away, I think the scent eliminators make the deer think you're 80 yards away.

    • @martychrisenberry408
      @martychrisenberry408 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's what I have observed with these sprays. I personally think It can make the deer think that a human has been their but it has been several hours. That's spraying my boots for ground scent.

  • @randywilliams4388
    @randywilliams4388 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a prime example of why I just cover myself in elk piss rather than scent cover.

  • @Katie-1015
    @Katie-1015 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome Job guys! Mark and Mattis take the win! There’s nothing this amazing guy can’t find or do!

  • @BestCosmologist
    @BestCosmologist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That dog is amazing.

  • @paddleyourowncanoe926
    @paddleyourowncanoe926 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think there were more deer killed when there were no scent sprays on the market. My father killed many deer while smoking in a deer stand, but he ALWAYS hunted down wind. I say save your money and just hunt the wind, you'll be fine.

    • @chickenjoe1003
      @chickenjoe1003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      but did he kill Big deer? anybody with a cigarette and a rifle can kill many deer

    • @paddleyourowncanoe926
      @paddleyourowncanoe926 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chickenjoe1003 He killed 16 deer during the time he was able to take me and he killed deer ranging from spikes to 4 11-pointers.

  • @JM75814
    @JM75814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lol I thought Sleepy Joe closed out the video

  • @CCRider5312
    @CCRider5312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    HERES A TIP FROM A HUNTER WITH 47 YEARS EXPERIENCE.......
    The best thing I’ve found a person can use for a cover scent for hunting is this: Take a big storage container/Tote & put all your hunting clothes, hats 🧢, face masks, anything you going to wear on your body, even your backpacks 🎒 Ect.
    .....Then put it all in the tote & go to Tractor Supply/Lowes/ Home Depot Ect.and buy a bag of Cedar Tree 🌲 shavings.
    THEN SPREAD THE CEDAR SHAVINGS IN WITH THE CLOTHES AND PUT THE LID ON IT AND SHAKE THE SHAVINGS IN REALLY GOOD WITH THE CLOTHES & OTHER ITEMS.
    Leave it sealed up in the container at least 24 hours before going hunting. Then take the clothes & items out on hunting day right before you’re going hunting. Then pull items out one at a time and shake the shavings back into the container.
    Deer and wildlife know the smell of cedar trees🌲so they don’t pay that smell any attention, it’s natural to them.
    Also bugs, biting flys, and insects will not bother you either, they hate Cedar trees 🌲! Also Buy you some cedar masking spray or raccoon 🦝 urine Spray to spray on the bottom of your boots 🥾. So when you walk in it masks the smell of your line of travel. These are natural smells in the wild that wildlife smell on regular basis. If U do this and you’ll see more & spook less deer 🦌 away, trust me!!
    My favorite cover scent on my boot 🥾 bottoms if I’m gonna be hunting in a tree 🌳 stand is 1 squirt of raccoon 🦝 urine on bottom of each boot sole before I walk to my stand. If I’m gonna be hunting on the ground I use the cedar scent on bottom of my boots🥾 before I walk in. I’ve had deer 🦌 to come to the tree 🌳 & look up at me in the stand & my face was fully masked, I didn’t move a muscle and the didn’t get spooked. Who knows what they was thinking, maybe they thought I was one heck of a big Cedar raccoon nest up there 😂idk 🤷🏼‍♂️? But of all the things I’ve used to mask my scent & I’ve tried them all, take it from an old timer..... that method works better than all that spray to spray your clothes With for Deer and other wild game.
    The only thing I’d add to the cedar shavings and raccoon 🦝 urine or cedar spray on the boots 🥾 is this:
    Take a earth scented body wash & shampoo and take a scent free shower. That’s the method I’ve used for the last 25 years and I’ve had great success. If you’re hunting any part of the country that does have cedar trees growing in that area it works. U wanna get up close and see more deer 🦌 you try that and see! 😉

  • @calvinh.8882
    @calvinh.8882 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I trained my German Shepherd to find anything by letting her smell new toys and then throwing them into some thick woods. She always found them pretty fast, and one day I was sighting in my new bow and one arrow missed the target and somewhere in the field behind it, and I looked for it for a while but couldn't find it, so I brought my dog out and for fun, I walked her into the field and took another arrow and let her smell the fletchings and told her to find it, and she started searching, and it didn't take long and she started pawing at the grass, and I walked over there and she dug through the grass and about an inch into the dirt and there were the fletchings on the lost arrow. I was shocked! lol.
    If you have private property you hunt, start leaving the shirt you wore hanging in different trees on different parts of the property every time you go out there. After a couple of months, the deer will be so used to smelling you that they'll no longer be scared of your scent.

  • @eugenejohnson8635
    @eugenejohnson8635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Theses dogs can smell people throw concrete walls

  • @vtcrafter6626
    @vtcrafter6626 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing I see lacking is you didn’t spray your boots. Every step is potentially a scent trail. I’ve questioned how well these sprays work. Great test

    • @bluelinewhitetails6205
      @bluelinewhitetails6205 ปีที่แล้ว

      they had been walking all over that area. tracking would have been highly unlikely.

  • @joepiddington1896
    @joepiddington1896 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wish you guys tried a full Scentlok set up with face and head gear

  • @brendenhill9128
    @brendenhill9128 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to see mattis again seen him on tic tok for a while

  • @chase0854
    @chase0854 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well the dog is trained to smell humans but deer I’ve stood out in the middle of the woods and not move and I had deer walk right past me

  • @rchilsstandardpoodles8029
    @rchilsstandardpoodles8029 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Some of that crap is only good for removing waterproofing from your hunting clothes... just play the wind and save the money on more tags. Lol

  • @robertpatterson3406
    @robertpatterson3406 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What gets me is if you hunt downwind so they can’t smell you then all of your attractants are blowing the same way so they wont be doing you any good either so you have just been ripped off twice by the hunting money industry .

  • @joshuamarkmurray
    @joshuamarkmurray ปีที่แล้ว

    As a trainer and handler. The handler continued to walk the song into the target. Although the dog would have found it in the end, the handler cheated the speed.

  • @stanleyblackwell2066
    @stanleyblackwell2066 ปีที่แล้ว

    My grandad always told me to try no to shower the day before and if u do unscented soaps and never use deodorizers!!

  • @KyleC0430
    @KyleC0430 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seen the limousine in Loganville yesterday 🧐

  • @Z33Garage
    @Z33Garage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    82 scent control reps thumbed this down

  • @TheDeviIDogg
    @TheDeviIDogg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think the most adorable thing is he has a shirt with his dog on it, what did humans do to deserve dogs?

    • @samyish
      @samyish 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We literally created them. That's why we deserve them.

    • @TheDeviIDogg
      @TheDeviIDogg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@samyish I'm pretty sure humans didn't create dogs, we've definitely messed up dogs with breeding and all these other things though

  • @bigd1708
    @bigd1708 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonder how he would have done by having the wind in favor of the ’target’? Similar to how we were taught to hunt years ago…

  • @mikeholley4488
    @mikeholley4488 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    seems he just looked into the boxes on the ozone test and alerted on the wrong box.

  • @givemaboot
    @givemaboot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

  • @stevespiel3829
    @stevespiel3829 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    With the ozonics the dog sat by the wrong box.. watch again

  • @clayton.waymire
    @clayton.waymire 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    MATTIS FROM TIKTOK I LOVE HIM!!!!

  • @Wspatch1987
    @Wspatch1987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i wish you guys would have tried wearing a scentblocker or scentlok gear and see if that would have worked. i have never believed in the sprays because they give off an odor that i can smell. and if i can smell it..... but the activated carbon in the clothing has me intrigued whether it would have worked. thank you for the time it took for you guys to put this together. definitely debunks the theory

  • @ryanburns3921
    @ryanburns3921 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was fun to watch even though most everybody knew the likely outcome.
    I have seen some videos and podcasts talking about the possibility of pheromones playing a role in what the deer do when they smell us. It's been proven that animals, including us, give off different pheromones depending on mood. So the theories researchs/hunters are trying figure out is what types we give off when we're in a "hunting mood" or "predator state" vs in a "joyful hike state". It will be interesting to see what people come up with to test this in the future.

  • @davidcrump2348
    @davidcrump2348 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Use some of the clothes in a bag inside all the other boxes and let the person in one box. You can tell a different scent in the box without the same scent in it. The difference is a human is in one of the boxes

  • @PNY15458
    @PNY15458 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I believe most deer will tolerate a certain amount of human scent. It's like with us humans when we smell a skunk. If the skunk sprays something and we get such a nose full of it that it makes our eyes water, we turn tail and get the heck out of there because we don't know where the skunk is and we see it as a possible threat. But if we smell the same source from a distance of 200 yards, we don't like it but find it a lot more tolerable. I believe the purpose of scent control products is to bring our scent down to the tolerable level where a deer believes we are 200 yards away when in fact we're only 20.

    • @craigdavis7743
      @craigdavis7743 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not an expert at all but if i have a theory that deer or other animals learn to associate certain scents with danger. But that behavior is learned based from their experience associated with certain scents.

  • @woodsbikes6130
    @woodsbikes6130 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I realize that I'm seeing this video a year later but, one thing that comes to mind is, there was no mention of the "target" guy bathing with scent control soaps before or even using scent control wipes during the tests to reduce/remove his natural body scents.
    So maybe the dog was able to smell the guy's natural body scent or even his deodorant or soap he used in his morning shower through the products being tested.
    Besides that, when the 'target" guy petted the dog and such, maybe the dog became familiar with the guy's natural scent and used that to his (the dog's) advantage.
    Anyway, just some thoughts.

  • @johndyer9232
    @johndyer9232 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, basically if the wind sucks for a location find somewhere else to hunt that day. A deer’s sense of smell is even better than a dog’s. Always play the wind.

  • @zzz7zzz9
    @zzz7zzz9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this is part of the reason why i always choose to still-hunt deer, and almost never use my treestand. i prefer "hunting" the deer, and in doing so, you can use the wind to your advantage.

    • @huntfishexplore7636
      @huntfishexplore7636 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Best way I've found in a stand is to place your stand with the wind carrying your scent into an open field or pond, so they literally can't get downwind

  • @Colton_Trotter_Fishing
    @Colton_Trotter_Fishing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys should try kill drift

  • @cayugawolf1
    @cayugawolf1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Deer can become familiar with the scent control odour just the same as a human odor. Therefore an experienced deer will associate the scent control with a predator. 😊

  • @garrettstraffon608
    @garrettstraffon608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don’t think the dog was starting far enough away

    • @zinfendal0
      @zinfendal0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am sure the dog heard him as well when he was outside the box...

    • @garrettstraffon608
      @garrettstraffon608 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zinfendal0 hear him breathing in the box to

  • @MrBillTroop73
    @MrBillTroop73 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, play the wind, of course, but I also use scent control products. My rational has been, if deer catch my reduced scent, they'll probably think that I'm farther away than I really am.

  • @caleblucas7046
    @caleblucas7046 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Next time yall should use Scent Thief! Haven't been winded 6 years.

    • @gordonc615
      @gordonc615 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I never believed in scent thief till last year... its the best! Long story short my female dog went into heat and messed up a baby male dog to wear he had to get an operation. I used scent thief and it killed her smell and had the dog able to calm down.. ppl don't realize it numbs those receptors... its awesome

  • @henryjames3580
    @henryjames3580 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Black pepper works good

  • @jeffstamps5159
    @jeffstamps5159 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very impressed thank you

  • @brianrice6993
    @brianrice6993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So scent blockers don’t work? Huh. Excuse me I got to go fill my tires with nitrogen now.

    • @ericc3784
      @ericc3784 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I laughed way too hard at that… thanks dude.

  • @dwhunter8904
    @dwhunter8904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Take it from a old K-9 handler......you cant fool the dogs nose. And a deer lives by his nose much better than a dogs.

  • @jameswalters4358
    @jameswalters4358 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I thought it was extremely enlightening.

  • @dennistrelinski1003
    @dennistrelinski1003 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I use evercalm and it works….. makes me think, what if there where dog treats in all the other boxes?

  • @mariusbuciuman307
    @mariusbuciuman307 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    And you guys didn’t use smoke as cover scent?

    • @BowhuntingRoad
      @BowhuntingRoad 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This was not about cover scent. There is no effective "cover" scent.