For those of you curious. The reason why Kratos reacted so harshly to the implication that the Aesir harmed a guest is because in Greece, hospitality is very sacred. Even in the Laconic City of Sparta.
A tradition that became part of the Roman empire and even survived into the middle ages of knights and such where Hospitality was a basic 'law' that if you broke it, you were if, lucky enough, a permanent social outcast. If not so lucky, you'd not be a knight anymore.
Huh, I didn't know that. I assumed he reacted that way because when he learned of what happened between the Aesir and Freyr as a guest, Kratos may have thought of Atreus (since at this point in the story, Atreus is a guest in Asgard) and maybe started to "worry".
There was once a powerful and strategic king who was extremely courageous and always cared for his people. Even so far as he himself accepted death rather than giving up his city. His famous words were "THIS..... IS...... SPARTAAAA!!!!"
@@Bman32x That’s not necessarily true. There was a very robust trade network during the Bronze Age between England and Greece as Tin was a big export in the area and was key to creating bronze. So I’m rather surprised that there wasn’t at least some trade involving Olive Oil.
"They are tools. For specific tasks. A preference would be meaningless" "I Like the axe" "I too like the axe" That line is something I can't stop laughing at. it's just hilarious the way he admitted his preference after saying a preference would be meaningless
Someone already gave a good explanation on why Kratos said that he likes the Leviathan Axe and I would like to point it out here too. It is obvious that Kratos would like the axe more than any other weapon because: 1. The axe was Faye's and it is the only memory he has left from her (well, apart from her ashes, of course) and 2. Atreus said he likes the axe and Kratos loves his son, thus it is plain obvious that Kratos wants to make him happy and, although he may not have a favourite weapon, it is enough to approve Atreus, because he knows that it would make him happy. Simple as that! To be honest, I love how Kratos went from "Zeus, your son has return! I bring the destruction of Olympus!" to "Loki will go. Atreus remains!". It is really wholesome and admirable at the same time!
he was speaking from a tactical stand point...then he speak from an emotional stand point. in a logical sense of what is it he like the axe best then the spear then is the blade and all this from emotional stand point.
@@shock226 The Trojan War is that conflict depicted in the _Iliad_ and from which Odysseus gets lost trying to return home from in the _Odyssey._ It's basically World War Mythological Greece. Almost all the gods are involved in either side and every Greek kingdom comes together to attack Troy. It lasted ten years.
@@shock226 most famous fictional war in myth. Long story short, there was a war, where the invaders couldn’t breach the city walls and the defenders could get a solid position to break the siege. This ended when Odysseus (Greek Hero that is super clever) faked a surrender, where he left a massive wooden horse behind, claiming it was a symbol of their surrender. This tricked the Trojans into opening their gates and bringing the horse into their city walls. So, once their defense was down, a hidden hatch in the horse opened from inside, releasing dozens of Greek soldiers that used the confusion to open the gates and let everyone in, breaking the siege and winning the war. Every since the term “Trojan horse” gets used as a shorthand for something that looks good but in actuality will do harm
Chronologically the Greek timeline is already muddled at best buy I go with the wiki's approach that everything already happened with some wiggleroom in between. We don't know how long Kratos was a god.
Watching this makes me realize just how cultured Kratos actually is. Like he clearly has a strong understanding of stories and glorification and traditional Greek storytelling.
@@kalebsantos72 funny that you bring this up. Did you know that it’s more likely that we’ll educated people are jacked than non well educated ones? The reason is that the same patience and discipline that would lead to academic success is also what is needed for effective bodybuilding.
Yup. Some of Kratos' knowledge include: - Building and playing a lyre. - Vast knowledge of Greek theatre and literature. - Being the authority in terms of ideals such as vengeance and fighting fate. - Architecture, considering he built their house. - A skilled military leader, though that's pretty obvious from the first game.
"You didn't trust me enough to talk through your worries. That's a wound not easily mended." "I'm sorry." "You needn't be. The fault is mine." Bruh every other line of this game just has to be a punch to the gut, doesn't it?
@@atlas956not just that but how much Kratos has influenced Mimir as well. It’s a bit more subtle but when he says “the fault is mine” that’s word for word what Kratos said to Brok when he found out Atreas is sick and Brok immediately blamed it on the Aesir
I love how Kratos pulls out Mimir, so he doesn't miss anything important. Freeing the second Hafgufa, I wondered why he had suddenly pulled out Mimir's head, then the Jelly fish took off into the sky and I was like, _"Aaaaaw,_ he didn't want Mimir to miss it!"
*10 years later when Atreus returns * Atreus: Father see? I have a beard just like yours Kratos:…*removes Atreus fake beard * do you now?? (Cause he’s still Loki the god of deception)
The way kratos says “Is it?” His son saying his beard is growing in will never not crack me up. Something about it is just wholesome and shows how much they have grown as father and son to have these moments
I love the idea of the Horn appearing one day. Like, Odin was like "Check out this big ass horn" and the other gods just go "....Where did you get that?"
I love how Kratos/Mimir explain that every God's physique can be shaped in the same way as a humans. Despite all their God strength, they still have to hit the gym to gain muscles. I love how every character was designed!
It’s hilarious that Mimir trashed himself when he chimes in on Freyr leaving Alfheim “Well he had good reason to leave. Some *jackass* convinced his sister to marry a madman”
I love the conversation of Atreus liking someone, especially the way Kratos asks “is there someone?”. He says with so much genuine curiosity, like he was caught off guard a bit by the idea of Atreus finding someone and is interested in learning who it might be that caught Atreus’s eye. He also sounds a bit concerned, partly because he’s not sure if this someone is a trustworthy person, but I think mostly because he’s asking himself “did I teach Atreus well enough to love?” As we know in the post game where he ask Mimir just that. Genuine curiosity, concern over the person trustworthiness, and of course if Atreus is prepared for love All that in the span of 3 words Laconic indeed (tho probably just me over analyzing)
Does anyone else picture Mimir's body, still in the tree, hand waving as he talks, reacting to things his head sees out in the realms. I picture Odin watching Mimir's hand casually wave like it did when he talked, or suddenly trying to stop something from hitting his head that's not there, like, "...the hell?"
By this point, yes, Mimir’s body would become mummified and freezer burned from the mountain environment; after all, only his head was given the zombie treatment, not his body which would have been too high profile to take back. But the idea that his body was also resurrected through his head and his arms are doing the motions Mimir is unconsciously thinking of is hilarious
My favorite conversation is when Atreus asked why he wasn’t taught with spartan customs not because he thought he was weak it was because he didn’t want him to lose his mothers attributes and wanted him to be a survivor not a warrior
i love that in the 2nd Hafgufa mission, Atreus and Mimir gets awkward when the 2 Hafgufas made the bebes. But if completed with Freya, the commentaries became more sentimental. The writers clearly made this moment not to be hinted with any kind of 'budding relationship' between Kratos and Freya. They came in prepared :D
I really hope Mimir remains a character throughout the series, for however long it continues. I'd love for them to go to Eygpt and Mimir trying to remember all the God's names.
19:28 The way she talks about Hrimthur the Stonemason makes me think that she was absolutely smitten by him, I doubt they actually had a relationship or even another conversation but all the voice actors did such an amazing job for the game Edit: 1:40:00 Now all I can imagine is Freya ripping out Gna's spine and skull and then roaring like the Predator 😂😂😂
Mimir and Shakespeare seem to hand in hand a fair bit. His presence in the Macbeth story, and his time as Puck with the Goodfellows from a Midsummer Knight's Dream.
I get it now. Groa lied by omission because if Odin knew that only Asgard will fall and all the realms will survive, he might have escaped to Midgard or any other realm, thus preventing his death at Ragnarok. But because she lied about all the other realms getting destroyed, Odin stayed in asgard and tried to defend it with all his might and forcing the other realms to help him and inevitably failed.
She also lied about Gjallarhorn. It didnt exist yet, and because Odin wants to be in control and feared others may find it first, Odin had Heimdall make the horn. Groa was far smarter than Odin.
47:55 Nimue was one of the forging Nymphs am omong the Ladies of the Lake. Famous for mostly the mythology of King Arthur and his knights and famously Excalibur. Meaning Mimir is possibly from the area Arthurian legend originated. Aka: Wales/areas of Irish folklore.
He did say in one of his earlier stories that he was part of a group called "the Goodfellows" and that his job was to be an errand boy and jester of a Fairy King. I think he hinted at his identity being Robin Goodfellow, servant of King Oberon before going up north.
Not only that, but they also showed that during the comics where Kratos traveled through Egypt. He tried to get rid of them, yet they always returned to him.
@Tyler Flory as much as he hates them, he would've been pretty screwed if he didn't have them. I think he's over it now and will probably do trying to get rid of them. They missed the opportunity though to have the blades be fancied up in this game by surtr. The blades of surtr with even more immolation damage and more moves would've been great
@@johndodo2062 oh yeah, I'm not denying that he made peace with the fact he'll never get rid of the blades, I'm just saying that at one point before all this, during his journey through Egypt in the dark horse comics, he tried to get rid of them, but every time he did, and fell asleep or let his guard down, they always appeared in front of him. At the point he is in Norse mythos, he knows he'll never get rid of them, so it's better to just use them as something more than tools of a slave towards a god, use them for a better purpose. Then again, that's my interpretation.
@@johndodo2062 oh yeah, I'm not denying that he made peace with the fact he'll never get rid of the blades, I'm just saying that at one point before all this, during his journey through Egypt in the dark horse comics, he tried to get rid of them, but every time he did, and fell asleep or let his guard down, they always appeared in front of him. At the point he is in Norse mythos, he knows he'll never get rid of them, so it's better to just use them as something more than tools of a slave towards a god, use them for a better purpose. Then again, that's my interpretation.
@@johndodo2062 oh yeah, I'm not denying that he made peace with the fact he'll never get rid of the blades, I'm just saying that at one point before all this, during his journey through Egypt in the dark horse comics, he tried to get rid of them, but every time he did, and fell asleep or let his guard down, they always appeared in front of him. At the point he is in Norse mythos, he knows he'll never get rid of them, so it's better to just use them as something more than tools of a slave towards a god, use them for a better purpose. Then again, that's my interpretation.
A lot of content to parse through here - here's a little guide to make it easier. :D 00:00 Atreus Kratos and Mimir Part 1 11:15 Freya Kratos and Mimir Part 1 50:00 Atreus Kratos and Mimir Part 2 1:15:52 Atreus and Kratos on FAYE 1:29:35 Freya, Kratos and Mimir ENDGAME
Loved the list, truly appreciated the work to make it. Perhaps next would be the difference between Atreus and Freya dialogue when participating in side quests. Such as the song of the sands, getting Lunda’s orb, getting the elf journal, etc?
Fair enough. Sorry for the troublesome request. However upon watching the vid, I think you might have missed a few. Such as Mimir telling Atreus and Kratos about the four soul parts.
That bothered me a bit when atreus said baldur had no muscles. He was basically built like Brad Pitt in fight club but a little bigger. I would say he was in pretty damn good shape especially with how short he actually was
Baldur looked more like a mangy vagrant than a god(mostly by his own choice). I think that’s what he meant. It’s a question I asked myself a couple of times: does appearance dictate ability?
Gonna be honest, I chewed through about 8/10ths of Mimir’s stories while stuck in Vanaheim because I couldn’t find the route to the ogre tossing boulders at you near the place with the dam.
Im a huge fan of the Arthurian pantheon, and when Cory Barlog said that all pantheons exist, i was worried the Arthurian one didnt make it. But after hearing Mimir talk about The Lady of the Lake(Nimue), i got all excited that King Arthur, Excalibur, Merlin, exist. Or at the very least, yet to exist.
i feel like mimir reminds me of orkos from gow ascension someone who knows kratos past and the things he's done, who he can confide his feelings and call friend, who will counsel him on how to move forward and he's like the best uncle ever besides iroh
I think my favorite is 4:28 when Mimir sits in awe at the relationship development they’re getting Edit: Alright now I remember hearing my Grandma’s joke from Kratos and Mimir was hilarious😂
Amazing story, he was still a God of War but this time around its a profound and transformational war he won between his nature and his strong will of protecting his son and eventually choosing protection rather than destruction.
That scene where Mimir is on his own custom headstand is way to funny. As he writes his book with his brush in his mouth 😂😂😂 then started at kratos like it's everyday stuff lmao
I love Freya's story about Freyrs visit to alfheim. Her discription about how using a potent blend of Vanir herbs made him *wander*. Almost sounds like 'he was baked off his head and somehow ended up somewhere completely different'. Goodness the sheer volume of Norse lore they packed into this game is astounding. Also love the brutal conversation about how they'd kill Gná, I bet Kratos was thinking 'oh good there's three more of me now.' I love the Valkyries design.
This game is masterful with the serious moments, but I really think the comedic aspect is really under appreciated. They do such a good job with the funny moments.
I just realised that when the Norns told Freya “nothing can be done to change your sons fate” they were being literal, if she did nothing, her son would’ve been fine, they really said it like “nothing, can be done, to change your sons fate” but because she heard it instead of reading it, she didn’t understand the subtlety of their words
i love how atreus ask if mimir like to be in front of kratos, kratos just casually said : we tried sound like a bunch of bros trying doing stupid stuff with each other
Very well done. Appreciate the time it took to bring all these moments into one video. Just one question: the section with Kratos and Atreus learning about Faye in Vanaheim where the other frozen lightning is; wasn't the dialogue different if Kratos went through that with Freya? If so, I don't recall seeing that in this vid.
@@VideoGameSophistry hey just a quick heads up there's a scammer that replied to me pretending to be you in this comment section. They've replied to new comments on this video.
47:55 knowing gow games is all about Mythology with a twist, I looked up this lake nymph mimir speaks about "Nimue" Turns out Nimue is actually the name of lady of the lake from the Mythology of king Arthur and the Knight's of Camelot. Mimirs homeland is Briton. The berserker bosses are also from Briton.
I never heard the line where atreus asked mimir if he would prefer to face forward, i love these conversations definitely one of my favorite parts of the game made traveling the realms so enjoyable
When I got to the Crater in Vanaheim and Atreus was giving his dialogue relating to what we were doing, I thought it would be so much cooler if Freya were here instead as she could share more knowledge and information about the region. So after flooding the riverbed, I halted doing anything there until I got Freya back which was post-game. I was so disappointed that she provided no special dialogue anywhere except for the wishing well. I regretted not finishing the crater with Atreus. Now I can see what I may have missed with him.
I thought mimir learning broks riddle would be as hilarious as it tortured him. Now that I’ve finished the game…I really wish we didn’t have to learn the answer like that
10:00 "...Means yew've got the strength of a gawd no matter what, lad! But if yew want the _physique_ of one, yew betta' start picking heavy things up...and puttin' 'em back dewn!" 😄
Who else felt as ease just listen to the stories. Sometimes it replaced the music when I clean. Just enjoying them talk makes me feel like I'm not alone in the room.
I hope in the next game, Mimir will be the more mythological storyteller guy. In GOW 4 he absolutely nailed it. In Ragnarök, he didn't really gave the same storytelling vibes as the previous game and was more of a main friend character (which is ofcourse awesome!), but I hope they don't dwell on his true mythological character
The fact Mimir mentioned Nimue gave me the most ridiculous hope that Arthurian legend would be the next storyline for the God of War series. There aren't any gods in Camelot, but plenty of sorcerers.
11:02 this is so relatable. My mother gossips like a fourteen year old girl in prep school and then after telling us something juicy or embarassing suddenly goes “But don’t tell her I said that”
Mimir: What about you, brother? Any pre-Fimbulwinter foods you're aching for? Kratos: Olives Mimir: The hell's an "olive"? The single funniest exchange in the entire game for me xD (Also Kratos's reaction to Atreus thinking he's finally growing a beard)
For those of you curious. The reason why Kratos reacted so harshly to the implication that the Aesir harmed a guest is because in Greece, hospitality is very sacred. Even in the Laconic City of Sparta.
A tradition that became part of the Roman empire and even survived into the middle ages of knights and such where Hospitality was a basic 'law' that if you broke it, you were if, lucky enough, a permanent social outcast. If not so lucky, you'd not be a knight anymore.
Huh, I didn't know that. I assumed he reacted that way because when he learned of what happened between the Aesir and Freyr as a guest, Kratos may have thought of Atreus (since at this point in the story, Atreus is a guest in Asgard) and maybe started to "worry".
There was once a powerful and strategic king who was extremely courageous and always cared for his people. Even so far as he himself accepted death rather than giving up his city. His famous words were "THIS..... IS...... SPARTAAAA!!!!"
Same when Mimir said “what the hell is an olive?” Produce would not have made its way up north and not spoiled. Nvm the realms stayed separate.
@@Bman32x That’s not necessarily true. There was a very robust trade network during the Bronze Age between England and Greece as Tin was a big export in the area and was key to creating bronze. So I’m rather surprised that there wasn’t at least some trade involving Olive Oil.
“Death can have me. When it earns me” Most badass quote I’ve heard in a game
38:18 for anyone wondering or if you’d forgotten 😁
@@CosmicTroubles thx
Apparently you weren't paying attention.
"I do not need a snack!" Was much more powerful imo. Lmfao
Clearly all those times he got dragged down to the underworld in Greece when he "died" wasn't death earning him
This is why kratos is the best video game character
The amount that this helps me sleep is insane, the last mimir compilation is like a drug.
Hopefully that intro I voiced doesn’t ruin your sleep rythms
Agree!!! 💯 %
@@VideoGameSophistry With that voice of yours good sir, I think you'll find no issue nor complain with that. You do Audiobooks by chance?
@@CREDLACE What a compliment! No I do not but would always love too.
I thought I was the only one who fell asleep to mimir. Thank you for reassuring me I’m not crazy
"Do you regret it Mimir?" - Freya
" *Most likely* " - Mimir
That line had me smiling for a half hour
"They are tools. For specific tasks. A preference would be meaningless"
"I Like the axe"
"I too like the axe"
That line is something I can't stop laughing at. it's just hilarious the way he admitted his preference after saying a preference would be meaningless
It is more wholesome for me cause it was from faye his wife thats why hes bias to the axe
I like to read it as he says there's no preference in which one for Fighting, doesn't mean he doesn't have a favorite as items not weapons.
Someone already gave a good explanation on why Kratos said that he likes the Leviathan Axe and I would like to point it out here too. It is obvious that Kratos would like the axe more than any other weapon because:
1. The axe was Faye's and it is the only memory he has left from her (well, apart from her ashes, of course)
and
2. Atreus said he likes the axe and Kratos loves his son, thus it is plain obvious that Kratos wants to make him happy and, although he may not have a favourite weapon, it is enough to approve Atreus, because he knows that it would make him happy. Simple as that!
To be honest, I love how Kratos went from "Zeus, your son has return! I bring the destruction of Olympus!" to "Loki will go. Atreus remains!". It is really wholesome and admirable at the same time!
54:30 for those wondering
he was speaking from a tactical stand point...then he speak from an emotional stand point.
in a logical sense of what is it
he like the axe best then the spear then is the blade and all this from emotional stand point.
Kratos canonically fought in the Trojan War...holy shit
remind me what that was
@@shock226
The Trojan War is that conflict depicted in the _Iliad_ and from which Odysseus gets lost trying to return home from in the _Odyssey._
It's basically World War Mythological Greece. Almost all the gods are involved in either side and every Greek kingdom comes together to attack Troy. It lasted ten years.
@@shock226 most famous fictional war in myth.
Long story short, there was a war, where the invaders couldn’t breach the city walls and the defenders could get a solid position to break the siege.
This ended when Odysseus (Greek Hero that is super clever) faked a surrender, where he left a massive wooden horse behind, claiming it was a symbol of their surrender.
This tricked the Trojans into opening their gates and bringing the horse into their city walls.
So, once their defense was down, a hidden hatch in the horse opened from inside, releasing dozens of Greek soldiers that used the confusion to open the gates and let everyone in, breaking the siege and winning the war.
Every since the term “Trojan horse” gets used as a shorthand for something that looks good but in actuality will do harm
Chronologically the Greek timeline is already muddled at best buy I go with the wiki's approach that everything already happened with some wiggleroom in between. We don't know how long Kratos was a god.
He may canonically fought the Termopiles, along the 300th and Leonidas, from that talk about "Hot Gates"
Good to know that Freyr accidently found the source of Bifrost Light by wandering around while being stoned out of his mind
That was hilarious! XD
Watching this makes me realize just how cultured Kratos actually is.
Like he clearly has a strong understanding of stories and glorification and traditional Greek storytelling.
I mean Plato was a wrestler no reason smart guys can’t be jacked
If only he wws that cultured to Baldur...
@@kalebsantos72 funny that you bring this up.
Did you know that it’s more likely that we’ll educated people are jacked than non well educated ones?
The reason is that the same patience and discipline that would lead to academic success is also what is needed for effective bodybuilding.
Ofc he is cultured when it comes to greek, he is greek.
Yup. Some of Kratos' knowledge include:
- Building and playing a lyre.
- Vast knowledge of Greek theatre and literature.
- Being the authority in terms of ideals such as vengeance and fighting fate.
- Architecture, considering he built their house.
- A skilled military leader, though that's pretty obvious from the first game.
"You didn't trust me enough to talk through your worries. That's a wound not easily mended."
"I'm sorry."
"You needn't be. The fault is mine."
Bruh every other line of this game just has to be a punch to the gut, doesn't it?
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this quote is such a great example of how mimir is a wise person and an excellent influence on Kratos‘ parenting
@@TKNelson0169 you're a hero
@@atlas956not just that but how much Kratos has influenced Mimir as well. It’s a bit more subtle but when he says “the fault is mine” that’s word for word what Kratos said to Brok when he found out Atreas is sick and Brok immediately blamed it on the Aesir
I love how Kratos pulls out Mimir, so he doesn't miss anything important. Freeing the second Hafgufa, I wondered why he had suddenly pulled out Mimir's head, then the Jelly fish took off into the sky and I was like, _"Aaaaaw,_ he didn't want Mimir to miss it!"
making it into that nice achievement of 'fullgufa' :p
I love the part when Atreus thought he might grow a beard. That is a funny dad reaction from Kratos.
“Is it??” 😂
Kratos: "Is it?" 😲
Also Kratos: _"...is it?"_ 😏
My dad was the exact same way when it first came in. Kept trying to pull at it and pluck the hairs for fun.
*10 years later when Atreus returns *
Atreus: Father see? I have a beard just like yours
Kratos:…*removes Atreus fake beard * do you now??
(Cause he’s still Loki the god of deception)
Is it 😂😂
The way kratos says “Is it?” His son saying his beard is growing in will never not crack me up. Something about it is just wholesome and shows how much they have grown as father and son to have these moments
And when he swallows the fly and coughs and Kratos' first thought is his previous sickness. Dad Kratos 100% win.
I still can't get over the fact Atreus asked Kratos and Mimir if he should grow out his hair.
Have you seen Dad jokes with kratos?
It's GOLD
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@@pyrflie Males with grow hair are the best. I don't like masculity.
28:56
Kratos: “He died trying to protect her from those would open it.”
Freya: “How did he die?”
Kratos: “Um…let’s move on…”
Best callback to GOW 2018
6:33 - 7:41
"Invulnerable to all threats, PHYSICAL OR MAGICAL"
I lost it
I love that they both say it in unison
Also the fact mimir just summed up macbeth from memory
@@tuttiman55 That for me is a bloody trek, and I just did a test on it this year and I have already forgotten it.
@@clankygamer2230 if you enjoy it enough you'll remember
the best part
I love the idea of the Horn appearing one day. Like, Odin was like "Check out this big ass horn" and the other gods just go "....Where did you get that?"
The mental image alone is hilarious enough
*looks outside one day after pondering the crack* what the fuck is that? … mine now, I guess.
I love how Kratos/Mimir explain that every God's physique can be shaped in the same way as a humans. Despite all their God strength, they still have to hit the gym to gain muscles. I love how every character was designed!
It’s hilarious that Mimir trashed himself when he chimes in on Freyr leaving Alfheim
“Well he had good reason to leave. Some *jackass* convinced his sister to marry a madman”
Odin is a madman but Freya is toxic mother.
@@icysweetnexi haha women☕ lol
@@KD400_ Well she is so toxic.
@@icysweetnexi eh. It's better than Hera. She literally yeeted her own kid off Olympus.
It can always be worse.
@@icysweetnexiat least she tried protecting her child, unlike mothers nowadays
"The hell is an olive?" this got me rolling lol
I love the conversation of Atreus liking someone, especially the way Kratos asks “is there someone?”. He says with so much genuine curiosity, like he was caught off guard a bit by the idea of Atreus finding someone and is interested in learning who it might be that caught Atreus’s eye. He also sounds a bit concerned, partly because he’s not sure if this someone is a trustworthy person, but I think mostly because he’s asking himself “did I teach Atreus well enough to love?” As we know in the post game where he ask Mimir just that. Genuine curiosity, concern over the person trustworthiness, and of course if Atreus is prepared for love
All that in the span of 3 words
Laconic indeed (tho probably just me over analyzing)
And if you notice in how he says it, Kratos had a bit of a crack in his voice. One of the only times Kratos was caught off-guard :v
Does anyone else picture Mimir's body, still in the tree, hand waving as he talks, reacting to things his head sees out in the realms.
I picture Odin watching Mimir's hand casually wave like it did when he talked, or suddenly trying to stop something from hitting his head that's not there, like, "...the hell?"
That would be amusing to see all day Long, Till Ragnarok comes
I could imagine the body would...decayed
By this point, yes, Mimir’s body would become mummified and freezer burned from the mountain environment; after all, only his head was given the zombie treatment, not his body which would have been too high profile to take back.
But the idea that his body was also resurrected through his head and his arms are doing the motions Mimir is unconsciously thinking of is hilarious
My favorite conversation is when Atreus asked why he wasn’t taught with spartan customs not because he thought he was weak it was because he didn’t want him to lose his mothers attributes and wanted him to be a survivor not a warrior
than a sodier i think
We all should be survivors. Not soldiers.
Definetly would love to hear audio books made by Mimir's voice actor.
I listened to the first one. Make a new audible account and you get a free book. You can listen as well
Fun fact: He has the same VA as Senator Armstrong
@@ledlebrgr5380 I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU
The God of War 2018 Novelization Audiobook is narrated by him!
@@ledlebrgr5380 Truly the mother of all omelettes
Basically a glorious hour of Mimir commentary on Odin and Thor's K/D ratio against the Giants
46:46 Mimir's "The hell's an "olive?"" cracks me up every time.
We can all be so thankful to have Mimir in our lives to tell us such great tales of our God of War and Prosperity
i love that in the 2nd Hafgufa mission, Atreus and Mimir gets awkward when the 2 Hafgufas made the bebes. But if completed with Freya, the commentaries became more sentimental. The writers clearly made this moment not to be hinted with any kind of 'budding relationship' between Kratos and Freya.
They came in prepared :D
I really hope Mimir remains a character throughout the series, for however long it continues. I'd love for them to go to Eygpt and Mimir trying to remember all the God's names.
There could be an Avalon saga event, Mimir is from around there after all
@@AndereundIch even better
@@elgordo2162 Kratos with Excalibur?
I don't see reason why Kratos should leave Mimir. Mimir is actually his family now.
19:28 The way she talks about Hrimthur the Stonemason makes me think that she was absolutely smitten by him, I doubt they actually had a relationship or even another conversation but all the voice actors did such an amazing job for the game
Edit: 1:40:00 Now all I can imagine is Freya ripping out Gna's spine and skull and then roaring like the Predator 😂😂😂
For all who didn’t know, the story at 6:15 is a reference to Macbeth, a Shakespearean tragedy. Pretty cool stuff!
Mimir and Shakespeare seem to hand in hand a fair bit. His presence in the Macbeth story, and his time as Puck with the Goodfellows from a Midsummer Knight's Dream.
I get it now.
Groa lied by omission because if Odin knew that only Asgard will fall and all the realms will survive, he might have escaped to Midgard or any other realm, thus preventing his death at Ragnarok.
But because she lied about all the other realms getting destroyed, Odin stayed in asgard and tried to defend it with all his might and forcing the other realms to help him and inevitably failed.
She also lied about Gjallarhorn. It didnt exist yet, and because Odin wants to be in control and feared others may find it first, Odin had Heimdall make the horn. Groa was far smarter than Odin.
how did i miss that Lunda is into Freya!?! best part lmao
I mean, Lunda’s type seems to be two legs and breathing.
Bisexual Icon lmao
If you were a dwarf woman and you saw the sister of the most handsome Vanir in Vanaheim, wouldn't you also be into her?
@@cxfxcdude Accurate.
@@ChaplainPhantasm No I. Her brother is amazing but Freya is terrible.
47:55 Nimue was one of the forging Nymphs am omong the Ladies of the Lake. Famous for mostly the mythology of King Arthur and his knights and famously Excalibur. Meaning Mimir is possibly from the area Arthurian legend originated. Aka: Wales/areas of Irish folklore.
He did say in one of his earlier stories that he was part of a group called "the Goodfellows" and that his job was to be an errand boy and jester of a Fairy King. I think he hinted at his identity being Robin Goodfellow, servant of King Oberon before going up north.
He also talks about Macbeth and the Witches being a real thing that happened
He calls his home "The Isles", as in the British Isles. Scotland and Ireland still had a strong Celtic culture during the time of the Vikings iirc.
The story on KRATOS saying he tried to throw the blades away but they came back, is a fallen god reference.
Not only that, but they also showed that during the comics where Kratos traveled through Egypt. He tried to get rid of them, yet they always returned to him.
@Tyler Flory as much as he hates them, he would've been pretty screwed if he didn't have them. I think he's over it now and will probably do trying to get rid of them. They missed the opportunity though to have the blades be fancied up in this game by surtr. The blades of surtr with even more immolation damage and more moves would've been great
@@johndodo2062 oh yeah, I'm not denying that he made peace with the fact he'll never get rid of the blades, I'm just saying that at one point before all this, during his journey through Egypt in the dark horse comics, he tried to get rid of them, but every time he did, and fell asleep or let his guard down, they always appeared in front of him. At the point he is in Norse mythos, he knows he'll never get rid of them, so it's better to just use them as something more than tools of a slave towards a god, use them for a better purpose. Then again, that's my interpretation.
@@johndodo2062 oh yeah, I'm not denying that he made peace with the fact he'll never get rid of the blades, I'm just saying that at one point before all this, during his journey through Egypt in the dark horse comics, he tried to get rid of them, but every time he did, and fell asleep or let his guard down, they always appeared in front of him. At the point he is in Norse mythos, he knows he'll never get rid of them, so it's better to just use them as something more than tools of a slave towards a god, use them for a better purpose. Then again, that's my interpretation.
@@johndodo2062 oh yeah, I'm not denying that he made peace with the fact he'll never get rid of the blades, I'm just saying that at one point before all this, during his journey through Egypt in the dark horse comics, he tried to get rid of them, but every time he did, and fell asleep or let his guard down, they always appeared in front of him. At the point he is in Norse mythos, he knows he'll never get rid of them, so it's better to just use them as something more than tools of a slave towards a god, use them for a better purpose. Then again, that's my interpretation.
A lot of content to parse through here - here's a little guide to make it easier. :D
00:00 Atreus Kratos and Mimir Part 1
11:15 Freya Kratos and Mimir Part 1
50:00 Atreus Kratos and Mimir Part 2
1:15:52 Atreus and Kratos on FAYE
1:29:35 Freya, Kratos and Mimir ENDGAME
Loved the list, truly appreciated the work to make it. Perhaps next would be the difference between Atreus and Freya dialogue when participating in side quests. Such as the song of the sands, getting Lunda’s orb, getting the elf journal, etc?
@@st5299 So THAT would require another 65 hour playthrough - don't think I'll be doing that one
Fair enough. Sorry for the troublesome request. However upon watching the vid, I think you might have missed a few. Such as Mimir telling Atreus and Kratos about the four soul parts.
@@st5299 Not technically a boat or sled story
Ah I see, thanks for telling me about that.
That bothered me a bit when atreus said baldur had no muscles. He was basically built like Brad Pitt in fight club but a little bigger. I would say he was in pretty damn good shape especially with how short he actually was
To be fair, the only definition of "muscles" Atreus has is of kratos
Baldur looked more like a mangy vagrant than a god(mostly by his own choice). I think that’s what he meant. It’s a question I asked myself a couple of times: does appearance dictate ability?
@@TheCorrodedMan Yes and no.
@@GameLover45408 I see what you mean. Zeus may have looked ninety but he was also a brick shithouse of the Nth degree.
Baldur look like ragnar lothbrok from vikings
1 hour and 43 worth of tales and somehow it still isn't enough for me😆😆 I need more
I need at least five hours of Mimir to have my fulfillment.
@@TheAbyssalStorm Yeah that would suffice 🤣🤣
Indo-European mythology is wonderful
Still twice as long as GOW 2018's.
If Mimir was my teacher. I could listen him the entire school day and I would actually be interested in his stories.
I find it hilarious that Mimir has no idea what the hell an olive was. 😂😂😂
Ikr that shit has me dying no matter how many times i hear it
Rainbow Dash. Good to see you. Say hi Rarity from me please.
Well from Celtic lands to Nordic ones he has literally never seen an olive in his life
*”Smartest. Man. Alive.”*
Gonna be honest, I chewed through about 8/10ths of Mimir’s stories while stuck in Vanaheim because I couldn’t find the route to the ogre tossing boulders at you near the place with the dam.
Best scene here: 1:13:52
Asking 2 bald geezers about growing out your hair. Fucking cruel and hilarious!
Im a huge fan of the Arthurian pantheon, and when Cory Barlog said that all pantheons exist, i was worried the Arthurian one didnt make it. But after hearing Mimir talk about The Lady of the Lake(Nimue), i got all excited that King Arthur, Excalibur, Merlin, exist. Or at the very least, yet to exist.
Yeah dude that was sooooooo cool. I enjoyed the MacBeth easter egg in Alfhiem too.
we’re most likely going to delve into the irish/arthurian pantheon next, despite people’s wishes for egyptian
8:04 Atreus asks to make an instrument and learn music
Kratos gets PTSD of Calliope from Chains of Olympus
i feel like mimir reminds me of orkos from gow ascension
someone who knows kratos past and the things he's done, who he can confide his feelings and call friend, who will counsel him on how to move forward
and he's like the best uncle ever besides iroh
I think my favorite is 4:28 when Mimir sits in awe at the relationship development they’re getting
Edit: Alright now I remember hearing my Grandma’s joke from Kratos and Mimir was hilarious😂
I still love that Kratos' guess for Brok's riddle was the closest
Amazing story, he was still a God of War but this time around its a profound and transformational
war he won between his nature and his strong will of protecting his son and eventually choosing protection rather than destruction.
Jaw must hurt after making this compilation. Thank you for your dedication mate!
That scene where Mimir is on his own custom headstand is way to funny. As he writes his book with his brush in his mouth 😂😂😂 then started at kratos like it's everyday stuff lmao
Did not expect the fangirling Sigrun and the shieldmaidens did at the end there to Freya about Gnà. Almost as savage as old Kratos there.
I love Freya's story about Freyrs visit to alfheim. Her discription about how using a potent blend of Vanir herbs made him *wander*. Almost sounds like 'he was baked off his head and somehow ended up somewhere completely different'.
Goodness the sheer volume of Norse lore they packed into this game is astounding.
Also love the brutal conversation about how they'd kill Gná, I bet Kratos was thinking 'oh good there's three more of me now.' I love the Valkyries design.
at 14:17 i like how kratos said guest cause in greece to treat guests very well and it was a big no no to harm them
When Freya was taking about Hrimthur, "He whispered in my ear..." Tell me why I thought she would finish with, "This is my swamp." 🤣🤣
Thank you for putting these in order dude, its so nice to hear half a story end and hear it be picked back up right after
This game is masterful with the serious moments, but I really think the comedic aspect is really under appreciated. They do such a good job with the funny moments.
Can I just say that EVER single voice is so well casted and pleasant to listen to. I wish there was a 24 hr version of this video
Even though i have beaten the game twice, I still come back to these videos just incase I miss something. Good work bruh. 💯💯
I just realised that when the Norns told Freya “nothing can be done to change your sons fate” they were being literal, if she did nothing, her son would’ve been fine, they really said it like “nothing, can be done, to change your sons fate” but because she heard it instead of reading it, she didn’t understand the subtlety of their words
Mimir's voice actor went off in this one, he so fucking good!
i love how atreus ask if mimir like to be in front of kratos, kratos just casually said : we tried
sound like a bunch of bros trying doing stupid stuff with each other
3:41 this is actually explained in a comic made that takes place before GoW 4! Nice little detail
Arreus: how do i get muscular
Kratos: i lift things up, and put them down.
Very well done. Appreciate the time it took to bring all these moments into one video. Just one question: the section with Kratos and Atreus learning about Faye in Vanaheim where the other frozen lightning is; wasn't the dialogue different if Kratos went through that with Freya? If so, I don't recall seeing that in this vid.
Indeed it was but I didn’t do that
@@VideoGameSophistry hey just a quick heads up there's a scammer that replied to me pretending to be you in this comment section. They've replied to new comments on this video.
14:15 oo, I feel Kratos took that dangerous tone at the implication since Greeks were all about hospitality of one's guests.
Mimir is talking about Macbeth. at 7:05
Finally someone else posted this too!
47:55 knowing gow games is all about Mythology with a twist, I looked up this lake nymph mimir speaks about "Nimue"
Turns out Nimue is actually the name of lady of the lake from the Mythology of king Arthur and the Knight's of Camelot. Mimirs homeland is Briton.
The berserker bosses are also from Briton.
I’ll tell you one thing. Stories sometimes are for entertainment.. but SMS made these stories educational! It’s everything i ever wanted!
“What about you brother, any pre-fimbulwinter foods your aching for?”
“Olives”
“The hell’s an olive?”
"I would've beaten you"
Mimir: "the ghost of Sparta? Nahhhh"
Thank you so much for this, I was waiting a full comp. I really hope you make the full full (2018 and GOWR) compilation one day ♥
TH-cam rules make that sort of impossible unfortunately but just watch THIS when your done here. th-cam.com/video/uG2bR8B8UOc/w-d-xo.html
just add this one and the old one in a playlist
I never heard the line where atreus asked mimir if he would prefer to face forward, i love these conversations definitely one of my favorite parts of the game made traveling the realms so enjoyable
When I got to the Crater in Vanaheim and Atreus was giving his dialogue relating to what we were doing, I thought it would be so much cooler if Freya were here instead as she could share more knowledge and information about the region. So after flooding the riverbed, I halted doing anything there until I got Freya back which was post-game. I was so disappointed that she provided no special dialogue anywhere except for the wishing well. I regretted not finishing the crater with Atreus.
Now I can see what I may have missed with him.
I don't know how they'd work this into a topic of conversation but I would have liked to see Kratos talk to Atreus about Calliope
I can speak for everyone when I say this, thank you for making this
I really needed it because I ran out of stories gling thorough the game ti get platinum
7:30 I I realized halfway through Mimir was talking about Macbeth😭😭
Holy crap that was beautifully created and well put together
Atreus: "... I might get even stronger than you one day."
Kratos: "If you don't, I have failed."
*hardest trap Beat intro*
I thought mimir learning broks riddle would be as hilarious as it tortured him. Now that I’ve finished the game…I really wish we didn’t have to learn the answer like that
Hræsvelgr’s screech gets me every time.
10:00 "...Means yew've got the strength of a gawd no matter what, lad! But if yew want the _physique_ of one, yew betta' start picking heavy things up...and puttin' 'em back dewn!" 😄
I love to come back here n sleep like hell
6:43 I believe he’s on about Macbeth
Mimir: *Telling a story*
Kraits: “HAUUGH!!”
Who else felt as ease just listen to the stories. Sometimes it replaced the music when I clean. Just enjoying them talk makes me feel like I'm not alone in the room.
I hope in the next game, Mimir will be the more mythological storyteller guy. In GOW 4 he absolutely nailed it. In Ragnarök, he didn't really gave the same storytelling vibes as the previous game and was more of a main friend character (which is ofcourse awesome!), but I hope they don't dwell on his true mythological character
The fact Mimir mentioned Nimue gave me the most ridiculous hope that Arthurian legend would be the next storyline for the God of War series. There aren't any gods in Camelot, but plenty of sorcerers.
And mystical creatures and weapons
So long as it’s a land with a god of war, then it’s fair game.
I thought he was describing Macbeth.
@@nathangaspar4989 He did mention that story as well. Separately.
@@acgearsandarms1343 I remembered that as soon as I posted the reply.
That "physical or magical..." had me rolling 😂
46:46 ''The hell's an olive''.
Freya being flustered when Lunda called her fine is great. I agree with lunda tho
11:02 this is so relatable. My mother gossips like a fourteen year old girl in prep school and then after telling us something juicy or embarassing suddenly goes “But don’t tell her I said that”
*Kratos:* "Heimdall is dead."
*Brok:* "Good."
*Mimir:* "But the norns said it's bad."
*Brok:* "Fuck the norns."
Absolute legend.
Mimir: What about you, brother? Any pre-Fimbulwinter foods you're aching for?
Kratos: Olives
Mimir: The hell's an "olive"?
The single funniest exchange in the entire game for me xD
(Also Kratos's reaction to Atreus thinking he's finally growing a beard)
god-tier dialogue all throughout the whole thing. pun intended.
9:41
Its funny that atreus wants to have muscles because hes a god, but doesn't wanna work for them. 😂
I love how they explain a bit that mimir retelling of a story should not be takin literally word for word.
Hello I truly appreciate your content and the time n effort you put into it Especially this video
GoW story is simply amazing. I hope someone make a movie out of it
was worth the wait
OMG I never heard the little awe at 4:30 from mimir when kratos says "If you are not I have failed"
5:06 "Of course you're not." I love that line.
100 minutes of this. Hell yeah
49:50 i love that im not the only one who looks over the edge every time i use the travel