Nobody is turning on Nicki, we just wish she would put out music like she used to, and stop gossiping indirectly, which puts her in unnecessary drama & beef. It happens so often now
@@jasminesanders6034 that’s not the same thing at all. Those people rightfully got dragged because they couldn’t push a narrative about Nicki, when she’s not even online. Were talking about recently
@@jasminesanders6034 Nicki was still coming out of a hate train during those hiatuses. But there was a shift where the industry wanted her to win. It happened the moment she beat Jennifer’s case. There were so many messy moments during the roll out where her fans were switching up online after LTISY and none of the major publications reported on it. However! After the Megan rant the media put her in blackout like never before. Even during 2018 she was never in a blackout. BUT they turned a blind eye during red ruby disses, and super freaky girl remix disses. The backlash from the industry is because they did nothing but report favorably on her for an entire year. And they feel like she’s refusing to grow up. Even after the Grammys/ Big Energy situation where Nicki had to go on hiatus and build back all the momentum that she lost, because having a number one wasn’t enough. She had to bitch online.
@@jasminesanders6034They called Ariana Grande all types of homewreckers and dragged her for filth, yet, she bounced back b/c she didn’t address anything. Nicki has to stop addressing everything. Put out some fun music and stop the opp talk and talking in circles on Stationhead.
@legitjusticeim actually right. what happened after nicki responded to hiss? instant #1 for meggy. what happened after moolattoo got buck? instant career boost. she is the #1 and they all get life from her
At times but it's like when someone is trying to bug you and talk shit just for it to not be about you its hard first thing yall bring up is her husband or her child someone on Twitter kept saying he looks like he has Down syndrome like how do you think that is okay to say then yall still bash and try to bully a man that made a mistake years ago like Duh she gone say whatever she fells fits the situation
y’all are so annoying. it’s not about literally turning on her it’s about barbz finally taking the rose colored glasses off and holding her accountable for her nonsense. being a “real fan” doesn’t mean agreeing with everything your favorite artist does and says. i love nicki myself but she’s been wrong and is not the victim a lot of people make her out to be and it’s okay to say that and still be a fan.
this is true! I had to count myself out as a barb cause I cannot stand behind her antics, sometimes. like she needs real friends to tell her get off social media, let's do this instead. I pray for her
This! Nicki has been in the wrong so many times, but I’ve seen Barbs still make excuses. They think holding her accountable is wrong, when we’re trying to help her salvage whatever’s left of her image. I hope they’re prepared to mass buy/stream by themselves because people are slowly leaving.
we were young but now that the OGs are older we can hold her accountable but that doesn’t mean we are turning/ leaving her side. She’ll get these lashings thou😂
I like seeing people holding their favs accountable. Far too often, Stans will try to deflect and excuse crappy behavior and antics, but really no one is above reproach
This is it . She honesty is her own downfall. You can tell she sits in the comments like her fans and loves the internet drama . I feel like people dont even take her seriously because we know nicki wont do shit at the end of the day
Some of us appreciate you holding Nicki accountable. Those of us who really fw her & have for so long, we don’t jus act like we have blinders on to the problematic stuff. BECAUSE.We know she’s above this.
Lil Kim was never nasty to Nicki, that't not true. You can't find any interview of Lil Kim just being mean, she always explained her experience. What she said then is very true to this day. That Nicki Minaj will say how much she love you one minute and the very next through subliminals at you and then PRETEND she did not. She is currently 15 years later doing the exact same thing to JT.
Girl, don’t nobody give a damn bout what Kim said. she says a lot, but never proves a lot. If you supposedly have all this tea and receipts post them! Her and remy and these other girls don’t because they don’t have no damn receipts, but they know that y’all simple minded ass heauxs in the GP are going to believe what the hell y’all want so you’re gonna run with it regardless if you have the facts or not
Thanks!! Cuz he really sat there and made it seem like Kim was just mean and nasty and only in the wrong. Nicki was throwing subliminal shots in records then saying “I love Kim” in interviews and denied Roman’s revenge being about Kim and made it seem like Kim was dissing (Black Friday) out the blue
@@brianarnold468 Some of y'all don't know what the fuck y'all be talking about. Y'all act like y'all know Nicki and Kim personally. Meanwhile, y'all got worst shit going on in y'all lives, but have the fucking nerve to talk about other people.
He's actually not wrong about Lil Kim being pretty upset and said some hateful things. It was my era too. But it didn't last and Kim carried on like the Icon she is.
Lil Kim has said countless times that Nicki is one way in public, and then completely a different way behind closed doors. She said that Nicki was doing backhanded things behind the scenes, which is what she had an actual issue with. Nicki can pretend like she loved Kim so much in front of the fans, but that wasn't happening off camera. This is also what quite a few other female rappers have stated about Nicki over the years. Nicki has always wanted to be the only one. She doesn't know how to exist among others. Unfortunately, to this day, people still want to paint Kim as bitter and old, when she was just telling her negative experiences with Nicki -- just like Remy has told hers; just like Cardi has told hers; just like Latto has told hers; and just like Megan has told hers. Folks keep wanting to ignore the pattern.
I feel like nicki got only child syndrome. They tolerate their siblings but deep down wish they were alone again. Edit: don't get me wrong, they want to get along with their siblings badly but as soon as something shifts, it's easier for them to push you out than work through it.
That’s fine if she doesn’t trust people but the same thing is happening again again is her fault stop trusting people and working e them ur too old to be not learning the same lesson it’s insanity
@@Ynhb996 I get you point but it's only so many times you can take people saying you don't like any new girls. So everytime someone new comes she thinks "hmm maybe she's gonna get me and be different." then boom it happens again. It's embarrassing and sad because think of it in an analogy of a workplace. You the manager and every worker says you can't work with any of them. So as soon as another gets hired you rush to work with them just for it to blow up in your face.
this dont make sense at all. new girls came in the industry say nickis name over and over, appeal to the barbz and tell the barbz to get nicki to let them on her lives (Megan) and then when its time for them to do something for nicki they flip the script.
@@stinarrr I know, it's insane. But sometimes it's the people in between too, who is a worm in their ears. Like this situation between nicki and the supposed feature on cowgirl. I feel like the problem could have been poor communication that causes them to flip against her. Either from the other's camp trying to capitalize off the fake that nicki doesn't like them or to make nicki look bad and have the latter look like a victim. The interview I'm referring to is the one with funny marco
I was done with Nicki when she defended jesy Nelson for blackfishing and got involved with the jesy and little mix drama for no reason? Like girl grow up.
As a mega barb, this is the most honest I feel you’ve ever been. Unbiased & honest, my fave is trippin, I still love her, but she got her ways, that could be detrimental to her brand
They’re not turning on her. They just want the shading to stop cause she doesn’t say names so barbz start dragging innocent ppl and it’s annoying. She needs to quit Twitter and SH
the problem with the way Nicki gave Lil Kim her flowers is that she was very shady about it. Nicki would say things like out with the old in with the new which was just a way to age shame Lil Kim
Yeah I agree the hate train did a number on her mental and confidence she put a great album out just for no one to congratulate her and people online besides the barbs to ridicule her so I think she got issues trusting these girls and congratulate them unless she really fuck with you
It didn't end in 2018 tho. We all know the industry is truly evil yet it's hard for ppl to see that they're still sabatoging her bc we like certain artists. Those artists are pawns for bigger entities. Those same entities pushed negative headlines about her tour and took sales away from her last album. It's a bigger game than being a girl's girl or being jealous. They've made it look that way for years and y'all fall for it every time
@@NOmyNAMEisChai no NICKI needs to start looking at them as collaborations only. She clearly expects these girls to stay under her foot and cape for her their entire career. The moment you become a big name, she sees you as a threat and starts to sneak diss just like a bully. We all know this.
They worked together. They aren’t friends. They are industry coworkers lmfao. And y’all are overly assuming that her and ice aren’t cool or that her and JT aren’t cool just because she’s busy and on an extremely packed and successful world tour.
@@Clearskies3848she's not busy enough to get on station head every other hour of every single day though just accept that nicki and these girls aren't cool anymore the moment has passed
I think a lot of her paranoia is likely to do with what happened in 2018/around that time - you touched on it with the industry trying to blackball her, but it was REALLY bad like there were female rappers making funeral celebrations for her career and putting up fake obituaries and everything - there were celebs that had been on nicki's side suddenly turning on her and radios refusing to play her music so it's one of those things where while her behaviour isn't great, it's also sort of understandable. At the end of the day, I hope she can move past that trauma and heal from it - she doesn't owe the new wave of female rappers anything, she's not a mentor, but also she doesn't need to beef with every single one of them either lol
right after all that you guys really think she gonna still be an open book for evb to come see and be friends with DUH she is going to be closed off and have a strict thing to follow because she knows a lot and has been through all they could offer and not to mention when that happen nobody really did anything but when she did something such as fragment foot everybody couldn't wait to hold her accountable and tear her down then she dropped a diss track after meg dropped hers and evb told meg ouu you ate her up and u gaged her and she lost but when she came back with straight direct stuff it was ohh you did to much and ohh you bitter or oh this is wrong its rap there's no rules to this its wtv you cant say sum then expect for people to not say something back to you simple.
They also has her video shoot/dressing room shot up but shes always very late thankfully. She has been swatted, this woman has been through so fucking much she doesn’t need to do anything for anyone
I’ve been a Nicki fan(not a brab) since “I get crazy”, and always loved Nicki and still do. What her music has done for me. Is something I can’t put into words. So my love for her work is genuine.
The problem is she leads with a friendship and not lead with a business so she gets hurt very easily but it also confuses people. When Drake got around Ice he automatically step in on business when her and her team didn't accept his offer he admittedly distanced himself from her. Soon the media connection between the two fizzled out he still take a pic here and there with her but far as working with her not happening. Now Sexxy gets all the benefits ever since she signed with his best friend label if Nicki just remembers that business is first then she wouldn't have to feel betrayed all the time.
I agree . It’s giving very controlling vibes . I understand she wants friends and business but she has to stop mixing the two. I feel like she needs to control her anger and get emotionally balanced lashing out and bullying people is not the way to do it . Period . It’s Like she has this God complex you can’t always have it your way and that’s ok . Sometimes rejection is Gods protection her perception is totally off
Zach, you were very well spoken on this topic. You hit every point so well! And brought so much background and clarity . You really know your stuff. I’m so proud
Nicki's behaviour turned me off years ago TBH. It's interesting to see you acknowledging this more (though you still offer an excuse lol). However, I have noticed in life, that if you have a problem with EVERYONE, the problem is not with them but you. We all can do some self reflection, why do I have a problem with EVERYONE, could there be something on my end? Mary J, Eve, Queen Latifah, etc, none of the previous hangs seem to mention Nicki. The common complaint over the years is the alleged behind the scenes issues from her. It also does appear to be true that you can only seem to like her and nobody else which as Zach says is childish. For me, her talent is UNDENIABLE. My issue is her antics has overshadowed said talent.
Crazy thing is Lil Kim said on the Breakfast Club that labels were putting it in girls contracts that if they want to sign, they have to come at her 💯 they laughed her off like she was crazy she said “whatever, you’ll see, everything in the dark comes to the light” fast forward bout 10 years later and Nicki Minaj is saying the same exact thing, she’s starting to realize the same way the industry used her to help take Kim down, they are now trying to use new girls to help take her down 💯
Nicki should not have married that man. I think her beefs are rarely with the girls, like Megan or Doja (I still think that beef ain’t real) are with the machines. I also think Nicki is a perfect example of the “curse being the only one” .
Y’all need to start holding that lady accountable. She falls out with every girl. It’s at the point where I don’t want her to work with anyone if it’s always going to be an issue.
I like how you’re a Barb but keep it real! Everything you said is all facts. Some fans be so delusional that they can’t even say that Nicki be wrong many times. She does make people pick a side and gets mad when things don’t go her way. Been saying this forever
I’m going to say something crazy..and maybe some barbs can agree (I’m not a barb) I don’t think she actually enjoys beefing with these girls. Is she a common denominator? Sure okay. But I don’t think Nicki wakes up and is GENUINELY seeking to destroy all female rappers. I think it’s a bunch of behind the scenes shit nobody knows about (or choosing to ignore) As Zach mentioned..Labels were pushing for girls to tear her apart. So imagine when a new girl comes. EVERY time a new girl comes the MEDIA automatically places them against her. Shit I wouldn’t f*** with these girls either. And let’s be honest every time she has some drama, the truth comes out that she wasn’t the issue. I.E Mariah Carey..Cardi..Trina..
The things lil Kim said about Nicki Minaj was very true. Lil Kim has always be supportive of other women and has worked with other women but only had an issue with Nicki and foxy brown. People calling her bitter weren’t listening to what she was saying and didn’t watch the breakfast club interview of her exposing the behind the scenes stuff that happened.
@@fendiszn oh please. No one’s going to get along with everyone in the business but to not get along with ANYONE who’s a female rapper is a different story. Like I said, Kim has been saying Nicki always wanted to be the only one since day one and now everyone is realizing it.
As an OLDER Barb!! I’m looking at my lil sista Onika like “ DAMN ITS ALWAYS SUMTHIN “ some one elses WINNING does NOT take away from who u are as the QUEEN my GOODNESS!!
The Barbs on X just got beside themselves because it was JT. As far as I saw, she didn't mention anyone's name and usually doesn't shout out people's projects like that. I think it was just another Friday for her lol. And I'll add Nicki may be a lot things but she ain't bitter.
Kim situation is a little different though bc she was working with Young Money first and they took her Black Barbie project and gave it to Nicki. Thats why she came in with that whole Barbie esthetics.
This is a whole lie when Nicki came in as Barbie with her first mixtape Playtime is over. Yal just run with a lie Lmaoo. She didn’t even work on Punk Friday with her team like she was supposed to because Wayne went to Jail. Again, this is documented lmao
Kim's barbie aesthetic was so hard and hood-fabulous while Nicki's Barbie aesthetic was kawaii and universal. I think it was meant for her to carry that aesthetic and she really made it into her own.
Damn this video is the prime example of someone who refuses to see things from another perspective. It’s been YEARS and he’s still holding onto many of the narratives of Nicki that are already proven to be lies and incorrect, I hope he understands how wrong and hurtful these narratives are one day.
If ppl are moving with ppl that are actively trying to ruin my career or tried and haven’t apologized publicly yet, why would I f with them? Like you said we don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes, so until the girls start coming forward and spilling all the tea we can’t just jump to conclusions. 🤷🏽♂️
the barbs that defend her behaviour are the issue. ppl aint gonna act like theyre wrong if their main supporters will support anything they do. she let the mean girl get ouuta control. she should be sitting pretty like bey.
I washed my hands from her when she came for Leigh ann from little mix for a blackfishing bih. Also unfollowing normani (literally the most unproblematic girl in the industry) for literally just working with cardi b.. which gave her fans a false "reason" to bully and attack the girl... yah just sad.
Nicki is honestly over. Fans are just trying to keep her afloat in sea full rap girlies with multiple #1s, Grammys, album chart positions etc. Her latest project just fell off the charts despite being on tour with a 2nd leg starting in sept. Yall better get Safaree on the line…
That's not even true 😂 Zach literally said Nicki came in showing love to those before her, mainly Lil Kim. Lil Kim messed it up by trying to compete with her.
I’m really worried for her. You can argue all day long that she always was like that. Maybe. But the show we attended here in Warsaw, Poland was a complete mess. She was almost 2 hours late and looked tired AF, messy wigs and costumes. It was such a huge shift from the last time we saw her in 2019. The endless stationehead rants are not helping either. And to be honest I’ve never got back to PF2. Something about this album was not hitting. And I’m a fan of hers since 2008. Maybe I just grew out of it all, idk.
Why can’t Nicki dislike people? Cardi don’t like all the girls. She talks shit about them on twitter spaces. Nicki talks shit about them on Station Head. So I don’t get why it’s not fair.
They act like Nicki gotta be cool with everyoneeeeee. She’s human. We all got friends or people we be cool with then fall out with as well. Like damn if she do damn if she don’t.
@@Nittawithlove exactly! Majority of us CANT STAND our coworkers. A lot of us , if we could we really get active with a colleague , so I’m lost. And what confuses me more is that, the root of the “Nicki isn’t a girls girl” starts from what happened with Kim. But, Kim WASNT A GIRLS GIRL either! 😂.
@@Ennegro none of these girls are “girls girl” and these people who type that shit knows for a FACT it isn’t true… shit they not even a girls girl in their own real life. I just hope Nicki and her team realize that moving forward she doesn’t need to collaborate with another Rap girl. She never has these issues with its with RNB female singer nor male rappers it’s always with the “girls girl”. And even if she stayed to herself they would still talk shit about ohhh she bitter and jealous and won’t collab with other female rappers. Sis just can’t win I swear
Lets talk about the girls are still finding ways to use Nicki, i just want her to stop being the generous Queen and let them find their own way in the business
I honestly noticed that Nicki switches up when she doesn’t get her way is when Doja didn’t want to do cowgirl for Pink Friday and the tone switched between Doja and Nicki after that. No shade to Nicki. I love Nicki so much one my faves but I kinda felt the switch
They way Doja declined is what Nicki switch bcuz how u gone send a verse take the verse back bcuz it no longer fits ur aesthetic then later clear the verse and take it back AGAIN telling ur team to inform Nicki u taking it back again bcuz u “think” Nicki doesn’t like u. Of course there would be a switch. Nicki kept in contact w Doja for 2+ years after the say so song to keep a their friendship and their working relationship only for Doja to fuck shi up
Not a barb but I have enjoyed nicki’s music over the years, but the last 7 years have been a bit odd. As you said, I’m just glad I’ve been Beyhive for most of my life cos she makes it so easy to be a fan 😂
Absolutely enjoyed this episode. I find “Woo Chile” to be far more entertaining than “Bop or Flop”. I agreed with (almost) every sentence and I love unbiased you are. Please keep doing these going 👍🏽
I think I say it every episode. But, Zach!!! Loving the direction of, Woo Chile! Your raw honest critiques, accountability, and strategic industry ideas that will help these artist. Someone needs to hire you on their creative team asap!!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾
Nicki dosent have to shout Anybody’s projects if she dosent want to y’all never do this with Beyoncé with the R&B girls but it’s always Nicki’s job to give people promo somehow ???? Make it make sense 💀💀 ..
Let’s talk about it…. Nicki always gotta do this and that for the rap girls but you don’t ever hear bloggers talk like that about Doja, Beyoncé, Taylor swift etc.. it’s so annoying
@@Nittawithlove Okay lets talk 1. Doja keeps to herself tbh, she doesn’t seem to be in with all that industry stuff 2. Bey and Taylor have been supportive to so many of their peers, Chloe, Halle, Megan, and Sabrina, Olivia, and Charli XCX respectively to name a few off the top of my head. They’re not threatened by the younger generation unlike Nicki who, let’s be real, has an issue with every girl who doesn’t worship her. I think the only reason she hasn’t started anything with Doja is because Doja has shown a ton of love while not being a bootlicker, because Nicki most definitely feels threatened by her. Nicki definitely has valid reasons for some beefs, but come on, it happens every few years now when a new girl hits the scene. She doesn’t have to be out here promoting and showing love to everyone, but she’s so antagonistic and we ALL see it. 3. Pop and R&B really aren’t the same as hip hop. Rap is all about one upping the competition half the time, it’s not really a fair comparison.
Nicki’s complements/props to Lil Kim was back-handed tho. Lil Kim was cool with her and wanted to work with her, but Nicki kept doing things behind the scene to push her out the picture. That’s why Lil Kim ended up having an issue with her.
All artists have a right to refuse to share their marketshare with other artists. Its obvious once Nicki stopped publicly acknowledging Ice & those texts leaked and barbz stop supporting, Ice's streams and sales have been down. Female rappers need to focus on building their own fanbase without following or dming Nicki fans. Id get annoyed too if I see girls that im just gettint to know mass following my fans and paying them to encourage my fanbase to support their release. Thats crazy. I prefer the girls that attack Nicki head on than the ones tryint to appear cool with her so the barbz support them
I don’t like all of my coworkers. Never probably will and I don’t want to. I dont want her to be a girls girl either because allot of these girls don’t like each other and it’s obvious. I think we just want her to ignore everything.
Foxy Brown is Nicki Minaj's biggest female influence, but y'all don't see it because she never beefed with her. Foxy's daughter has a room in Nicki's mansion, that's literally her auntie. They both have a Chinese tattoo in their arm. They both switch up accents and love to merge Dancehall with Hip-Hop (and Foxy was the first one to do all of that). Nicki Minaj wearing the curly black hair like Foxy Brown in the Broken Silence era (Nicki spoke about this in her interview with JT). THAT'S HER MAIN INFLUENCE, Kim was also an influence just not her main one. Y'all are too blinded by colorful clothes and wigs like the pop stars weren't already doing that.
Foxy Brown had a positive impact within Nicki Minaj's career being the first female rapper to support her in 2008, after Foxy got out of jail, she started speaking about Nicki being new and how that's like a homegirl to her. Even before all of this, Nicki started rapping in the Hoodstars because of Foxy Brown and her Caribbean influence. They were both Trinidadian, and Nicki felt identified with her. She always had Foxy as her friend in her mind, even though she never knew her personally. Nicki was forced into the Lil' Kim act when Big Fendi started managing her. It wasn't genuine and it wasn't real because that's not what Nicki wanted. Debra Antney spoke about this when she had a disagreement with Big Fendi as he was overs-xualizing her too much.
She opended up the doors for the biggest Caribbean girls in the industry, Rihanna and Nicki Minaj. You saw how Rihanna invited Foxy Brown to the Fenty Puma show in 2016 and called her the "OG Bad Gal" "The Bad Gal Number One." Foxy had a HUGE impact on both of these Caribbean girls, Rihanna was also sampling Foxy songs in her mixtapes just like Nicki was doing in the 2000s. You never saw Foxy beefing with neither of them, even though she is known for being the first controversial rap girl in the industry. She never felt threatened and let them blossom through her blueprint. Foxy and Rihanna were both signed to Def Jam, Nicki wanted to do the same thing but they didn't believe in her.
Nicki Minaj and Lil' Kim are receiving hate, yes, but that doesn't make them the same at all. Female rap was already dead ever since 2003-2005, they were having little moments here and there, but it wasn't the same impact anymore. The moments were not consistent enough and nobody was selling above 1 million in albums, they were not cracking those heights. When Lil' Kim felt offended and tried to re-claim her Queen of Rap title, it was pointless. The gap with the void and Nicki Minaj's takeover was light years apart. She didn't hold the same weight anymore, The Naked Truth from 2006 by Lil' Kim barely cracked 1 million in the United States and it tanked in the rest of the countries. And she wanted to have the same noise in 2010? It wasn't gonna happen.
They are not going to dethrone Nicki that easy, not the way they did Lil' Kim. Nicki has remained such a relevant figure in the music industry for a long time and that's something that the OG female rappers lacked. She is still the most successful, the richest, the most awarded, she is still setting the bar, etc.
Nicki will always make hits and have her legacy. However I’m definitely a FORMER barb, can’t take her seriously anymore. She’s offensive, messy, inconsistent, and problematic.
I think a lot of Barbs say things and not know Nicki’s reasoning for things. They want all the tea all the time and she simply can’t just put everything out there like that because she will ultimately look like the bad person. But allegedly, JT was messaging head barbs telling them to tell barbs not to buy her mixtape or support her because it’s annoying and she wanted to do it on her own. And allegedly she was saying she doesn’t like the barbs and I think Nicki caught wind of that. Plus tbh JT kinda did her whole lil rollout like a throwback Nicki mixtape rollout, not gonna lie lol so Nicki may have felt like she got close to her to get her sauce and dip on out 😂.
i'm just sick of the stationhead rants and subliminals. they just make her seem bitter, which so many of her haters accuse her of being. she's proving her haters right. overall, i think being on social media too much is toxic for nicki. she needs to log off and leave the house more. i love nicki and her music, but the entire pf2 era is exhausting! the album just left the charts, and all we're getting are those annoying stationhead lives. we want visuals and a proper era. we want artistry.
The reason they usually fall out is because Nicki gives “I want you to do good but not better than me” but it’s more so “I’m better than them so why would they do better than me?” Type of vibe. Which rap and lyricism wise she is better than them! However the way she carries on always makes her look like a hater. She was my fave for a long time but I had to stop and see the constant pattern. Everybody is good until they’re essentially not kissing her ass.
I realize this myself & sudden start catching on she’s good at what she does I’m rooting for her low-key , but she has to understand you can have remain humble no good being nasty & bitter when she’s doesn’t have to because there will be no other Nicki Minaj (Onika) other artist are going to flourish & her not working with people & upcoming female artist is messing up opportunities because her & Cardi could really take off & collab with the new girlies wishful thinking though
oh but when nicki bullied leigh anne from little mix and decided to defend jessy who was so obviously black fishing, y'all didn't wanna hold nicki accountable
I kneeeew the comments were gonna be “real barbz aren’t doing that” …you mean delusional celebrity obsessed barbz? Cus there are completely level headed normal barbz that can call it for what it is
Zach they're gonna try to make it seem like you're wrong, but you're really clocking. Nicki working with these new girls was def something that benefited her. Of course it benefited them more, but Nicki had two major top 10 hits with Ice Spice. Not to mention her hopping on the pound town song NOT because she thinks Sexyy is a great artist, but because it was the hottest song out at the time. So when barbz try to say Nicki did those girls a favor...yess 100%...but let's not act like it didn't do her one either
It’s actually strange for me tbh cause I grew up listening and watching Nicki, she lost me sometime a long the way but I myself seen the way JT and ice was using the barbs to get approval just bc Nicki acknowledged them prior, but in short, I don’t see Nicki as the problem THIS time. She’s not in the right every time but this instance her fans are dtm for the girls that Nicki quietly doesn’t like, but will bash the other girls with no issue, about the same things jt and ice do. It’s a strange thing
I don’t think nicki needed new genz fans bc she already has a lot, genz nicki fans are hardcore bc they’ve been listening to her their entire lives. Gen alpha fans I could see that pov of her gaining a younger audience,but genz been listening to nicki since childhood, I find genz nicki fans go the hardest for her.
This was such an informative and insightful video! When Zach is passionate about an artist and the trajectory of their career then he’s putting out his best work!
Nicki can never be the “I don’t like you new girls” kinda girl because every female that came out , she’s embraced them and supported them , it never started off being bitter or jealous
@@amysmith8043 This makes no sense tho bc her supporting them bring the attention and love. Look at the way the world went crazy when she posted Ice Spice.
Cardi, Megan, Kash Doll, Lil Kim, Dej Loaf, Mariah Carey, USHER, etc, and NOW JT. I get that everybody won't get a long, but at some point it's you that's the problem. With the exclusion of Azealia and Ericka Banks. Unfortunately her fan base is just as deluded and the hate every female rapper she doesn't publicly endorse. The parallels between the barbs and Maga supporters is wild! I used to be a barb until the Pulse tragedy happened. Gays love Nicki, but what has Nicki ever done to show that love back? Go on Rupaul? Chile cheese..
No shade, the same can be said about Beyoncé not posting Chlöe’s album who’s under her label. Where’s the video not calling Beyoncé a girls girl? What popular black female artist has Beyoncé done a video with and truly shined with over the years? Beyoncé told Chlöe it’s important for her to stand on her own. Maybe JT/Nicki see it the same way. Jt’s City Cinderella is amazing. Nicki Minaj’s Pink Friday 2 is amazing. Chlöe’s in pieces was amazing & Beyonce’s Cowboy Carter is amazing. The click bate is late Zach, next topic please.
Beyonce literally gives everyone her flowers. She doesnt have to beg people to kiss her ass or tell us she’s the queen every 2 seconds. She gave chloe creative freedom and she also isnt chloes management.. she just signed her.
Let me tell you something.. nicki now is managing her own self and that's why i think that she doesn't have a PR team (Pedro isn't a good choice so i will not count him) like we all love the Nicki Minaj brand like she's NICKI MINAJ but she needs to re-hire her 2012-2014 PR team that work for her image and control her socil media cuz I'm barb since i was like 5 years old (13 years being a barb) I've idolized this woman for a decade and ik the REAL BRAND OF NICKI MINAJ and Nicki needs to stop giving female rappers collabs cuz i miss when my bch used to WASH men on records
Nobody is turning on Nicki, we just wish she would put out music like she used to, and stop gossiping indirectly, which puts her in unnecessary drama & beef. It happens so often now
Not true it’s so many times she been off social media for months and ppl still brought up her name. So what’s your narrative now?
@@jasminesanders6034 that’s not the same thing at all. Those people rightfully got dragged because they couldn’t push a narrative about Nicki, when she’s not even online. Were talking about recently
@@jasminesanders6034 Nicki was still coming out of a hate train during those hiatuses. But there was a shift where the industry wanted her to win. It happened the moment she beat Jennifer’s case. There were so many messy moments during the roll out where her fans were switching up online after LTISY and none of the major publications reported on it. However! After the Megan rant the media put her in blackout like never before. Even during 2018 she was never in a blackout. BUT they turned a blind eye during red ruby disses, and super freaky girl remix disses. The backlash from the industry is because they did nothing but report favorably on her for an entire year. And they feel like she’s refusing to grow up. Even after the Grammys/ Big Energy situation where Nicki had to go on hiatus and build back all the momentum that she lost, because having a number one wasn’t enough. She had to bitch online.
Facts.
@@jasminesanders6034They called Ariana Grande all types of homewreckers and dragged her for filth, yet, she bounced back b/c she didn’t address anything. Nicki has to stop addressing everything. Put out some fun music and stop the opp talk and talking in circles on Stationhead.
the best thing that nicki can do is to delete social media!! she falls into the trap easily. she gives these girls life.
@legitjusticewhether or not that’s true, we can’t deny that these girls have careers because of her. Her unwavering relevancy should be studied
Have to agree. Over the petty shade
@@shashavengesayi6055they don't need her. She needs them to stay in touch with the younger generation
@legitjusticeim actually right. what happened after nicki responded to hiss? instant #1 for meggy. what happened after moolattoo got buck? instant career boost. she is the #1 and they all get life from her
At times but it's like when someone is trying to bug you and talk shit just for it to not be about you its hard first thing yall bring up is her husband or her child someone on Twitter kept saying he looks like he has Down syndrome like how do you think that is okay to say then yall still bash and try to bully a man that made a mistake years ago like Duh she gone say whatever she fells fits the situation
y’all are so annoying. it’s not about literally turning on her it’s about barbz finally taking the rose colored glasses off and holding her accountable for her nonsense. being a “real fan” doesn’t mean agreeing with everything your favorite artist does and says. i love nicki myself but she’s been wrong and is not the victim a lot of people make her out to be and it’s okay to say that and still be a fan.
this is true! I had to count myself out as a barb cause I cannot stand behind her antics, sometimes. like she needs real friends to tell her get off social media, let's do this instead. I pray for her
"Yes-men" mentality is cult behavior. It's not being a true fan. It's enabling.
😮but what's funny is us LOGICAL BARBS BEEN SAYING THIS SHYT AND THE DELUSIONAL ONES WOULD Outcast US
This! Nicki has been in the wrong so many times, but I’ve seen Barbs still make excuses. They think holding her accountable is wrong, when we’re trying to help her salvage whatever’s left of her image. I hope they’re prepared to mass buy/stream by themselves because people are slowly leaving.
@@JaeEliseEspecially after condoning Grape - Ist
as a Barb…i can confirm that the real barbz ain’t going nowhere chilleee 🎀
Thank you 🩷
you can stan anyone and you choose a r*pe apologist
NOWHERE!!!!
No damn where PERIOD!
Thank you someone said it
we were young but now that the OGs are older we can hold her accountable but that doesn’t mean we are turning/ leaving her side. She’ll get these lashings thou😂
I like seeing people holding their favs accountable. Far too often, Stans will try to deflect and excuse crappy behavior and antics, but really no one is above reproach
This
@@yageshabazz3456exactly . I really respect it
This is it .
She honesty is her own downfall. You can tell she sits in the comments like her fans and loves the internet drama . I feel like people dont even take her seriously because we know nicki wont do shit at the end of the day
ive been a fan since 09, nicki aint never did shit to these girls. stop lyin
Some of us appreciate you holding Nicki accountable. Those of us who really fw her & have for so long, we don’t jus act like we have blinders on to the problematic stuff. BECAUSE.We know she’s above this.
THIS...I just commented the same thing. Now the DALULU Barbz will see this as a problem
Chyyyle..
"Yes-men" mentality is cult behavior. It's not being a true fan. It's enabling.
This
Zach now you just lying. Nobody said she was late cause of a substance issue
nicki aint never been the problem, yall just talk, receipts always prove nicki never lies
The thing is, Nicki can drop a song tomorrow and everyone will be back to stanning her.
@@jerickv8911 literally her name in yall mouth regardless of what she does.
EXACTLYYYYY!!! these short lived hate trains be taking me out😭
rly cuz we all remember big foot
@@cazbryan2515 THAT WAS THE BEST EXPLANATION.
This is true. The barbs are crazy for her and will forget and eat everything up lol
Lil Kim was never nasty to Nicki, that't not true. You can't find any interview of Lil Kim just being mean, she always explained her experience. What she said then is very true to this day. That Nicki Minaj will say how much she love you one minute and the very next through subliminals at you and then PRETEND she did not. She is currently 15 years later doing the exact same thing to JT.
Girl, don’t nobody give a damn bout what Kim said. she says a lot, but never proves a lot. If you supposedly have all this tea and receipts post them! Her and remy and these other girls don’t because they don’t have no damn receipts, but they know that y’all simple minded ass heauxs in the GP are going to believe what the hell y’all want so you’re gonna run with it regardless if you have the facts or not
Thanks!! Cuz he really sat there and made it seem like Kim was just mean and nasty and only in the wrong. Nicki was throwing subliminal shots in records then saying “I love Kim” in interviews and denied Roman’s revenge being about Kim and made it seem like Kim was dissing (Black Friday) out the blue
@@brianarnold468 Some of y'all don't know what the fuck y'all be talking about. Y'all act like y'all know Nicki and Kim personally. Meanwhile, y'all got worst shit going on in y'all lives, but have the fucking nerve to talk about other people.
PERIOD 🎉
He's actually not wrong about Lil Kim being pretty upset and said some hateful things. It was my era too. But it didn't last and Kim carried on like the Icon she is.
Lil Kim has said countless times that Nicki is one way in public, and then completely a different way behind closed doors. She said that Nicki was doing backhanded things behind the scenes, which is what she had an actual issue with. Nicki can pretend like she loved Kim so much in front of the fans, but that wasn't happening off camera. This is also what quite a few other female rappers have stated about Nicki over the years. Nicki has always wanted to be the only one. She doesn't know how to exist among others. Unfortunately, to this day, people still want to paint Kim as bitter and old, when she was just telling her negative experiences with Nicki -- just like Remy has told hers; just like Cardi has told hers; just like Latto has told hers; and just like Megan has told hers. Folks keep wanting to ignore the pattern.
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Absolutely 💯
right! chile, she couldn't even coexist with Mariah Carey on American Idol, even after they did a song together.. like what is the problem??
@@Yecadecaliwell the producers of the show said Mariah was the problem
Also Remy started the beef with Nicki don’t try to change the history there
I feel like nicki got only child syndrome. They tolerate their siblings but deep down wish they were alone again.
Edit: don't get me wrong, they want to get along with their siblings badly but as soon as something shifts, it's easier for them to push you out than work through it.
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That’s fine if she doesn’t trust people but the same thing is happening again again is her fault stop trusting people and working e them ur too old to be not learning the same lesson it’s insanity
@@Ynhb996 I get you point but it's only so many times you can take people saying you don't like any new girls. So everytime someone new comes she thinks "hmm maybe she's gonna get me and be different." then boom it happens again. It's embarrassing and sad because think of it in an analogy of a workplace. You the manager and every worker says you can't work with any of them. So as soon as another gets hired you rush to work with them just for it to blow up in your face.
this dont make sense at all. new girls came in the industry say nickis name over and over, appeal to the barbz and tell the barbz to get nicki to let them on her lives (Megan) and then when its time for them to do something for nicki they flip the script.
@@stinarrr I know, it's insane. But sometimes it's the people in between too, who is a worm in their ears. Like this situation between nicki and the supposed feature on cowgirl. I feel like the problem could have been poor communication that causes them to flip against her. Either from the other's camp trying to capitalize off the fake that nicki doesn't like them or to make nicki look bad and have the latter look like a victim.
The interview I'm referring to is the one with funny marco
TH-cam was almost getting boring,when u came to the rescue😢
Riiight!
I was done with Nicki when she defended jesy Nelson for blackfishing and got involved with the jesy and little mix drama for no reason? Like girl grow up.
As a mega barb, this is the most honest I feel you’ve ever been. Unbiased & honest, my fave is trippin, I still love her, but she got her ways, that could be detrimental to her brand
Nicki got a #1 after literally defending blackfishing…. No matter how problematic she can be she will never be cancelled as if a white woman did it.
That came from her FANBASE. the general public doesn’t care about Nicki Minaj any longer. Drake is an example of that.
@@johnathanlewis3155 That's literally not true. Both are still selling out arenas and albums and get millions of streams.
I laughed at this comment like you're dead serious
@@Whereyoubelongg and im dead serious
@@johnathanlewis3155if the gp didn’t care bout Nicki she won’t be relevant anymore but it’s been 16 years and y’all still saying this
They’re not turning on her. They just want the shading to stop cause she doesn’t say names so barbz start dragging innocent ppl and it’s annoying. She needs to quit Twitter and SH
Ngl Nicki need to lets her team manage her social media bc it’s really gonna cause her fall frrr
It already is causing her fall
@@izzy350 well that's a lie. She's still winning
@@JaiK64she would be bigger if she had a team . She’s embarrassing asf
How is she falling when your watching a video about her , then taking your time to comment about her 😂😂
Girl a celebrity of that status can’t just “fall” trust her 229 million Instagram followers aren’t just gonna dip 😂
the problem with the way Nicki gave Lil Kim her flowers is that she was very shady about it. Nicki would say things like out with the old in with the new which was just a way to age shame Lil Kim
Nicki never said that
@@Nicki_Nicolexoxo1 umm she definitely did.
@@Nicki_Nicolexoxo1yes she did
I think that 2018 hate train really did traumatize nicki
Yeah I agree the hate train did a number on her mental and confidence she put a great album out just for no one to congratulate her and people online besides the barbs to ridicule her so I think she got issues trusting these girls and congratulate them unless she really fuck with you
Agreed but it was happening before then, and its 2024.
Time to heal, she’s a mother now. She needs to leave that man and focus on her son and health.
@@KoolSunray yeah understandable but she's retiring soon anyways I just hope all goes well for her and her family
It didn't end in 2018 tho. We all know the industry is truly evil yet it's hard for ppl to see that they're still sabatoging her bc we like certain artists. Those artists are pawns for bigger entities. Those same entities pushed negative headlines about her tour and took sales away from her last album. It's a bigger game than being a girl's girl or being jealous. They've made it look that way for years and y'all fall for it every time
Yes...she was crying in an interview over Cardi B
I don’t blame them. You can only have so many friends-turned-enemies before you have to wonder who the problem truly is
But they were never friends. Nicki never said they were. Yall have to learn to look at collaborations as collaborations and not people being “friends”
@@NOmyNAMEisChai no NICKI needs to start looking at them as collaborations only. She clearly expects these girls to stay under her foot and cape for her their entire career. The moment you become a big name, she sees you as a threat and starts to sneak diss just like a bully. We all know this.
I @@mrdayson
They worked together. They aren’t friends. They are industry coworkers lmfao. And y’all are overly assuming that her and ice aren’t cool or that her and JT aren’t cool just because she’s busy and on an extremely packed and successful world tour.
@@Clearskies3848she's not busy enough to get on station head every other hour of every single day though just accept that nicki and these girls aren't cool anymore the moment has passed
Holding someone accountable for their actions DOES NOT make you a hater.
REAL
I think a lot of her paranoia is likely to do with what happened in 2018/around that time - you touched on it with the industry trying to blackball her, but it was REALLY bad like there were female rappers making funeral celebrations for her career and putting up fake obituaries and everything - there were celebs that had been on nicki's side suddenly turning on her and radios refusing to play her music so it's one of those things where while her behaviour isn't great, it's also sort of understandable. At the end of the day, I hope she can move past that trauma and heal from it - she doesn't owe the new wave of female rappers anything, she's not a mentor, but also she doesn't need to beef with every single one of them either lol
That's enuff to send Nicki over THE EDGE
this !!!
exactly everything you said is facts
right after all that you guys really think she gonna still be an open book for evb to come see and be friends with DUH she is going to be closed off and have a strict thing to follow because she knows a lot and has been through all they could offer and not to mention when that happen nobody really did anything but when she did something such as fragment foot everybody couldn't wait to hold her accountable and tear her down then she dropped a diss track after meg dropped hers and evb told meg ouu you ate her up and u gaged her and she lost but when she came back with straight direct stuff it was ohh you did to much and ohh you bitter or oh this is wrong its rap there's no rules to this its wtv you cant say sum then expect for people to not say something back to you simple.
They also has her video shoot/dressing room shot up but shes always very late thankfully. She has been swatted, this woman has been through so fucking much she doesn’t need to do anything for anyone
I’ve been a Nicki fan(not a brab) since “I get crazy”, and always loved Nicki and still do. What her music has done for me. Is something I can’t put into words. So my love for her work is genuine.
Nicki needs to stop thinking if people don’t wanna do what she wants, that dosent mean they don’t love her, FGS these are adults !!!
These girls are so fake and they show hand too fast. Beyonce stealing from smaller artists don't make you side eye.
These girls needs to stop tryna use Nicki for clout and then throw her to the waste side. It always BACKFIRE!!!
The problem is she leads with a friendship and not lead with a business so she gets hurt very easily but it also confuses people. When Drake got around Ice he automatically step in on business when her and her team didn't accept his offer he admittedly distanced himself from her. Soon the media connection between the two fizzled out he still take a pic here and there with her but far as working with her not happening. Now Sexxy gets all the benefits ever since she signed with his best friend label if Nicki just remembers that business is first then she wouldn't have to feel betrayed all the time.
Correct
I agree . It’s giving very controlling vibes . I understand she wants friends and business but she has to stop mixing the two. I feel like she needs to control her anger and get emotionally balanced lashing out and bullying people is not the way to do it . Period . It’s Like she has this God complex you can’t always have it your way and that’s ok . Sometimes rejection is Gods protection her perception is totally off
im soooo glad u givin kim her 💐 bc a LOT of people like to think that there was NO kim before nicki
And that's a damn LIE 💯 ... THE ORIGINAL THE BLUEPRINT .. PERIOD 💯
FACTS on FACTS!!!
Zach, you were very well spoken on this topic. You hit every point so well! And brought so much background and clarity . You really know your stuff. I’m so proud
Actually he was completely wrong speaking on Lil Kim
Nicki's behaviour turned me off years ago TBH. It's interesting to see you acknowledging this more (though you still offer an excuse lol). However, I have noticed in life, that if you have a problem with EVERYONE, the problem is not with them but you. We all can do some self reflection, why do I have a problem with EVERYONE, could there be something on my end? Mary J, Eve, Queen Latifah, etc, none of the previous hangs seem to mention Nicki. The common complaint over the years is the alleged behind the scenes issues from her. It also does appear to be true that you can only seem to like her and nobody else which as Zach says is childish.
For me, her talent is UNDENIABLE. My issue is her antics has overshadowed said talent.
"Said talent" but her talent is undeniable lolol
@@dalvinalcide455yes, said talent. As in the aforementioned talent. Reading comprehension is crucial.
Crazy thing is Lil Kim said on the Breakfast Club that labels were putting it in girls contracts that if they want to sign, they have to come at her 💯 they laughed her off like she was crazy she said “whatever, you’ll see, everything in the dark comes to the light” fast forward bout 10 years later and Nicki Minaj is saying the same exact thing, she’s starting to realize the same way the industry used her to help take Kim down, they are now trying to use new girls to help take her down 💯
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& did !!!!!! & it came outtttt!
Fact! I remember that interview.
@@tyrabnotbanks folks quick to forget
@@whoiswalker8382 knew i couldn’t be the only one that remembered that 💯
Nicki should not have married that man. I think her beefs are rarely with the girls, like Megan or Doja (I still think that beef ain’t real) are with the machines. I also think Nicki is a perfect example of the “curse being the only one” .
Y’all need to start holding that lady accountable. She falls out with every girl. It’s at the point where I don’t want her to work with anyone if it’s always going to be an issue.
Exactly
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Nah she falls out with every girl that's somehow ALWAYS connected to Warner/Atlantic.
I like how you’re a Barb but keep it real! Everything you said is all facts. Some fans be so delusional that they can’t even say that Nicki be wrong many times. She does make people pick a side and gets mad when things don’t go her way. Been saying this forever
ok since you doing videos like this do a video on how cardi been going on rants 24/7
@@katherinethames5289 right let’s talk about that
Clock it they both can get the smoke. They both use social media the worst way possible.
ikrrr let us see if he will really talk about it cause cardi situation literally trended and that tiktok video of that girl checking her went viral
cuz most rap girls luv cardi
Yeah but her fans hold her accountable
Me, a non Barb watching this: 😗🍿
I’m not a brab but I am a fan of her music I don’t need to see her live nor do I want to but I will be streaming PF2
@@luxemeee3915same, i can’t stand who nicki is becoming as a person, but i can’t deny her artistry
Yesssirrr
@@jonyonce yes same here
I’m going to say something crazy..and maybe some barbs can agree (I’m not a barb) I don’t think she actually enjoys beefing with these girls. Is she a common denominator? Sure okay. But I don’t think Nicki wakes up and is GENUINELY seeking to destroy all female rappers. I think it’s a bunch of behind the scenes shit nobody knows about (or choosing to ignore)
As Zach mentioned..Labels were pushing for girls to tear her apart. So imagine when a new girl comes. EVERY time a new girl comes the MEDIA automatically places them against her. Shit I wouldn’t f*** with these girls either. And let’s be honest every time she has some drama, the truth comes out that she wasn’t the issue. I.E Mariah Carey..Cardi..Trina..
Facts! It's a really tough position because the narrative doesn't favour her but the truth always prevails. ALWAYS!
Whose I e?
@@ogbarb5303 I.e means For example
Talk about it!
Mariah ate nicki up lmfao
The things lil Kim said about Nicki Minaj was very true. Lil Kim has always be supportive of other women and has worked with other women but only had an issue with Nicki and foxy brown. People calling her bitter weren’t listening to what she was saying and didn’t watch the breakfast club interview of her exposing the behind the scenes stuff that happened.
Kim had problems with Eve and tried to unalive Foxy.
@@fendiszn oh please. No one’s going to get along with everyone in the business but to not get along with ANYONE who’s a female rapper is a different story. Like I said, Kim has been saying Nicki always wanted to be the only one since day one and now everyone is realizing it.
As an OLDER Barb!! I’m looking at my lil sista Onika like “ DAMN ITS ALWAYS SUMTHIN “ some one elses WINNING does NOT take away from who u are as the QUEEN my GOODNESS!!
We all know the barbz aren't going anywhere
No we are not 👑💕🎀🦄 like white on rice chile 💕💕
We arent going anywhere
The Barbs on X just got beside themselves because it was JT. As far as I saw, she didn't mention anyone's name and usually doesn't shout out people's projects like that. I think it was just another Friday for her lol. And I'll add Nicki may be a lot things but she ain't bitter.
Ouu this title. Let me go on my lunch 💅
i can tell some ppl just read the title of this vid and went STRAIGHT to the comments
Nicki was never a girls girl
who cares
bc all the “girls girl” stuff is fake, and none of these rappers rlly
like each other. it’s all about business…
Who is really a girls girl? Im sick of this term !
At all
@@Alexisdaneeplenty of females are that aren’t intimidated or jealous of each other.
Kim situation is a little different though bc she was working with Young Money first and they took her Black Barbie project and gave it to Nicki. Thats why she came in with that whole Barbie esthetics.
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Actually nicki had been with wayne way before Kim and birdman was working
This is a whole lie when Nicki came in as Barbie with her first mixtape Playtime is over. Yal just run with a lie Lmaoo. She didn’t even work on Punk Friday with her team like she was supposed to because Wayne went to Jail. Again, this is documented lmao
Thank you!
Kim's barbie aesthetic was so hard and hood-fabulous while Nicki's Barbie aesthetic was kawaii and universal. I think it was meant for her to carry that aesthetic and she really made it into her own.
And let’s not forget everytime Nicki feels away about someone the facts come out later that she was correct so
BINGO!!! But they don’t talk about that!!!!
THIS!
True!
Her team does not protect her. It makes me feel that they take advantage of her
“if you knew how these jealous btchs move” no one knows what happens behind scenes.
You look so good omg 😂😂😂 I am distracted and gagged!
Damn this video is the prime example of someone who refuses to see things from another perspective. It’s been YEARS and he’s still holding onto many of the narratives of Nicki that are already proven to be lies and incorrect, I hope he understands how wrong and hurtful these narratives are one day.
Respect your opinions always zach, it’s always so real
If ppl are moving with ppl that are actively trying to ruin my career or tried and haven’t apologized publicly yet, why would I f with them? Like you said we don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes, so until the girls start coming forward and spilling all the tea we can’t just jump to conclusions. 🤷🏽♂️
now THIS was a long awaited video. i’m sat!
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Chile! I've waited a longtime for this video.
Wait for what! He always bashes Nicki!
the barbs that defend her behaviour are the issue. ppl aint gonna act like theyre wrong if their main supporters will support anything they do. she let the mean girl get ouuta control. she should be sitting pretty like bey.
I washed my hands from her when she came for Leigh ann from little mix for a blackfishing bih. Also unfollowing normani (literally the most unproblematic girl in the industry) for literally just working with cardi b.. which gave her fans a false "reason" to bully and attack the girl... yah just sad.
Nicki is honestly over. Fans are just trying to keep her afloat in sea full rap girlies with multiple #1s, Grammys, album chart positions etc. Her latest project just fell off the charts despite being on tour with a 2nd leg starting in sept. Yall better get Safaree on the line…
Nicki came in the game hating on Lil Kim but copying her at the same time
That's not even true 😂 Zach literally said Nicki came in showing love to those before her, mainly Lil Kim. Lil Kim messed it up by trying to compete with her.
This the one!! A lot of people don’t know how Nicki was harassing kim behind the scenes
I’m really worried for her. You can argue all day long that she always was like that. Maybe. But the show we attended here in Warsaw, Poland was a complete mess. She was almost 2 hours late and looked tired AF, messy wigs and costumes. It was such a huge shift from the last time we saw her in 2019. The endless stationehead rants are not helping either. And to be honest I’ve never got back to PF2. Something about this album was not hitting. And I’m a fan of hers since 2008. Maybe I just grew out of it all, idk.
Why can’t Nicki dislike people? Cardi don’t like all the girls. She talks shit about them on twitter spaces. Nicki talks shit about them on Station Head. So I don’t get why it’s not fair.
They act like Nicki gotta be cool with everyoneeeeee. She’s human. We all got friends or people we be cool with then fall out with as well. Like damn if she do damn if she don’t.
@@Nittawithlove exactly! Majority of us CANT STAND our coworkers. A lot of us , if we could we really get active with a colleague , so I’m lost. And what confuses me more is that, the root of the “Nicki isn’t a girls girl” starts from what happened with Kim. But, Kim WASNT A GIRLS GIRL either! 😂.
@@Ennegro none of these girls are “girls girl” and these people who type that shit knows for a FACT it isn’t true… shit they not even a girls girl in their own real life. I just hope Nicki and her team realize that moving forward she doesn’t need to collaborate with another Rap girl. She never has these issues with its with RNB female singer nor male rappers it’s always with the “girls girl”. And even if she stayed to herself they would still talk shit about ohhh she bitter and jealous and won’t collab with other female rappers. Sis just can’t win I swear
@@Nittawithlove Bc she's the top girl and they want her to like everyone. It's the Beyonce effect except all she does is send flowers
Chilllllleeeee, we ain't going nowhere we here and we been here, PERIOD.
Cardi did not need a Nicki co-sign. Also Kim was neverever bitter over Nicki. Goggle does work. Now that's definitely my error.
She falls out with EVERYONE bc inside shes fighting herself!
I’m a barb and I’m not turning against her cause idc what she does on twitter I’m just here for the music 🤷🏽♂️🩷
You get it ❕
You hit the nail on the head! I’ve been saying this for years
Lets talk about the girls are still finding ways to use Nicki, i just want her to stop being the generous Queen and let them find their own way in the business
Thank you!!!
I honestly noticed that Nicki switches up when she doesn’t get her way is when Doja didn’t want to do cowgirl for Pink Friday and the tone switched between Doja and Nicki after that. No shade to Nicki. I love Nicki so much one my faves but I kinda felt the switch
They way Doja declined is what Nicki switch bcuz how u gone send a verse take the verse back bcuz it no longer fits ur aesthetic then later clear the verse and take it back AGAIN telling ur team to inform Nicki u taking it back again bcuz u “think” Nicki doesn’t like u. Of course there would be a switch. Nicki kept in contact w Doja for 2+ years after the say so song to keep a their friendship and their working relationship only for Doja to fuck shi up
heyy tired ass army 🫶🏾
We go thru this every 3 years ! Nicki Fans Ain’t Going No Where ..
Not a barb but I have enjoyed nicki’s music over the years, but the last 7 years have been a bit odd.
As you said, I’m just glad I’ve been Beyhive for most of my life cos she makes it so easy to be a fan 😂
Absolutely enjoyed this episode. I find “Woo Chile” to be far more entertaining than “Bop or Flop”. I agreed with (almost) every sentence and I love unbiased you are. Please keep doing these going 👍🏽
My thing is, there's no one left to even do the Nicki tribute at the BET awards lol. TF we gon' do!
😂😂😂 good point. All the girls who would do it best are on her no fly list.
Woo Chileeeeee let’s get into it Zach
I think I say it every episode. But, Zach!!! Loving the direction of, Woo Chile! Your raw honest critiques, accountability, and strategic industry ideas that will help these artist. Someone needs to hire you on their creative team asap!!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾
No ice spice was saying that she GAVE Nicki the Barbie deal. Popularity aside… they approached Nicki first!!! Ice spice is the true ungrateful one!
Nicki dosent have to shout Anybody’s projects if she dosent want to y’all never do this with Beyoncé with the R&B girls but it’s always Nicki’s job to give people promo somehow ???? Make it make sense 💀💀 ..
Let’s talk about it…. Nicki always gotta do this and that for the rap girls but you don’t ever hear bloggers talk like that about Doja, Beyoncé, Taylor swift etc.. it’s so annoying
Exactly!!!!!! U preaching!!👏🏽
Preach!
@@Nittawithlove
Okay lets talk
1. Doja keeps to herself tbh, she doesn’t seem to be in with all that industry stuff
2. Bey and Taylor have been supportive to so many of their peers, Chloe, Halle, Megan, and Sabrina, Olivia, and Charli XCX respectively to name a few off the top of my head. They’re not threatened by the younger generation unlike Nicki who, let’s be real, has an issue with every girl who doesn’t worship her. I think the only reason she hasn’t started anything with Doja is because Doja has shown a ton of love while not being a bootlicker, because Nicki most definitely feels threatened by her. Nicki definitely has valid reasons for some beefs, but come on, it happens every few years now when a new girl hits the scene. She doesn’t have to be out here promoting and showing love to everyone, but she’s so antagonistic and we ALL see it.
3. Pop and R&B really aren’t the same as hip hop. Rap is all about one upping the competition half the time, it’s not really a fair comparison.
😂😂😂 "WE BEEN DONE KNEW." 💯 Insight on point.
Nicki’s complements/props to Lil Kim was back-handed tho. Lil Kim was cool with her and wanted to work with her, but Nicki kept doing things behind the scene to push her out the picture. That’s why Lil Kim ended up having an issue with her.
Because Nicki is insecure
Zach you broke this down so well, you pulled it in from different aspects and everything, as a barb, I agree with everything you said!!!!
All artists have a right to refuse to share their marketshare with other artists. Its obvious once Nicki stopped publicly acknowledging Ice & those texts leaked and barbz stop supporting, Ice's streams and sales have been down. Female rappers need to focus on building their own fanbase without following or dming Nicki fans. Id get annoyed too if I see girls that im just gettint to know mass following my fans and paying them to encourage my fanbase to support their release. Thats crazy. I prefer the girls that attack Nicki head on than the ones tryint to appear cool with her so the barbz support them
That’s why I respect Glorilla. No nicki approval
I don’t like all of my coworkers. Never probably will and I don’t want to. I dont want her to be a girls girl either because allot of these girls don’t like each other and it’s obvious. I think we just want her to ignore everything.
Foxy Brown is Nicki Minaj's biggest female influence, but y'all don't see it because she never beefed with her. Foxy's daughter has a room in Nicki's mansion, that's literally her auntie. They both have a Chinese tattoo in their arm. They both switch up accents and love to merge Dancehall with Hip-Hop (and Foxy was the first one to do all of that). Nicki Minaj wearing the curly black hair like Foxy Brown in the Broken Silence era (Nicki spoke about this in her interview with JT). THAT'S HER MAIN INFLUENCE, Kim was also an influence just not her main one. Y'all are too blinded by colorful clothes and wigs like the pop stars weren't already doing that.
Foxy Brown had a positive impact within Nicki Minaj's career being the first female rapper to support her in 2008, after Foxy got out of jail, she started speaking about Nicki being new and how that's like a homegirl to her. Even before all of this, Nicki started rapping in the Hoodstars because of Foxy Brown and her Caribbean influence. They were both Trinidadian, and Nicki felt identified with her. She always had Foxy as her friend in her mind, even though she never knew her personally.
Nicki was forced into the Lil' Kim act when Big Fendi started managing her. It wasn't genuine and it wasn't real because that's not what Nicki wanted. Debra Antney spoke about this when she had a disagreement with Big Fendi as he was overs-xualizing her too much.
She opended up the doors for the biggest Caribbean girls in the industry, Rihanna and Nicki Minaj. You saw how Rihanna invited Foxy Brown to the Fenty Puma show in 2016 and called her the "OG Bad Gal" "The Bad Gal Number One." Foxy had a HUGE impact on both of these Caribbean girls, Rihanna was also sampling Foxy songs in her mixtapes just like Nicki was doing in the 2000s.
You never saw Foxy beefing with neither of them, even though she is known for being the first controversial rap girl in the industry. She never felt threatened and let them blossom through her blueprint. Foxy and Rihanna were both signed to Def Jam, Nicki wanted to do the same thing but they didn't believe in her.
Nicki Minaj and Lil' Kim are receiving hate, yes, but that doesn't make them the same at all. Female rap was already dead ever since 2003-2005, they were having little moments here and there, but it wasn't the same impact anymore. The moments were not consistent enough and nobody was selling above 1 million in albums, they were not cracking those heights.
When Lil' Kim felt offended and tried to re-claim her Queen of Rap title, it was pointless. The gap with the void and Nicki Minaj's takeover was light years apart. She didn't hold the same weight anymore, The Naked Truth from 2006 by Lil' Kim barely cracked 1 million in the United States and it tanked in the rest of the countries. And she wanted to have the same noise in 2010? It wasn't gonna happen.
They are not going to dethrone Nicki that easy, not the way they did Lil' Kim. Nicki has remained such a relevant figure in the music industry for a long time and that's something that the OG female rappers lacked. She is still the most successful, the richest, the most awarded, she is still setting the bar, etc.
Lil Kim never wrote he raps stop comparing her
Zach you’ve spoken soo well today 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Nicki will always make hits and have her legacy. However I’m definitely a FORMER barb, can’t take her seriously anymore. She’s offensive, messy, inconsistent, and problematic.
I think a lot of Barbs say things and not know Nicki’s reasoning for things. They want all the tea all the time and she simply can’t just put everything out there like that because she will ultimately look like the bad person. But allegedly, JT was messaging head barbs telling them to tell barbs not to buy her mixtape or support her because it’s annoying and she wanted to do it on her own. And allegedly she was saying she doesn’t like the barbs and I think Nicki caught wind of that. Plus tbh JT kinda did her whole lil rollout like a throwback Nicki mixtape rollout, not gonna lie lol so Nicki may have felt like she got close to her to get her sauce and dip on out 😂.
maybe cause she keeps trying to sign ppl to a shitty 360 deal and wants a portion of ALL their masters
This 🗣️🗣️🗣️
i'm just sick of the stationhead rants and subliminals. they just make her seem bitter, which so many of her haters accuse her of being. she's proving her haters right.
overall, i think being on social media too much is toxic for nicki. she needs to log off and leave the house more.
i love nicki and her music, but the entire pf2 era is exhausting! the album just left the charts, and all we're getting are those annoying stationhead lives. we want visuals and a proper era. we want artistry.
The reason they usually fall out is because Nicki gives “I want you to do good but not better than me” but it’s more so “I’m better than them so why would they do better than me?” Type of vibe. Which rap and lyricism wise she is better than them! However the way she carries on always makes her look like a hater. She was my fave for a long time but I had to stop and see the constant pattern. Everybody is good until they’re essentially not kissing her ass.
I realize this myself & sudden start catching on she’s good at what she does I’m rooting for her low-key , but she has to understand you can have remain humble no good being nasty & bitter when she’s doesn’t have to because there will be no other Nicki Minaj (Onika) other artist are going to flourish & her not working with people & upcoming female artist is messing up opportunities because her & Cardi could really take off & collab with the new girlies wishful thinking though
I hope her documentary still comes out soon. 🙏🏾
oh but when nicki bullied leigh anne from little mix and decided to defend jessy who was so obviously black fishing, y'all didn't wanna hold nicki accountable
Nicki never needed ice spice lol let’s not get ahead of ourselves
Your recollection of Kim and NM’s beef is slightly off
Very off
I kneeeew the comments were gonna be “real barbz aren’t doing that” …you mean delusional celebrity obsessed barbz? Cus there are completely level headed normal barbz that can call it for what it is
Zach they're gonna try to make it seem like you're wrong, but you're really clocking. Nicki working with these new girls was def something that benefited her. Of course it benefited them more, but Nicki had two major top 10 hits with Ice Spice. Not to mention her hopping on the pound town song NOT because she thinks Sexyy is a great artist, but because it was the hottest song out at the time. So when barbz try to say Nicki did those girls a favor...yess 100%...but let's not act like it didn't do her one either
It’s actually strange for me tbh cause I grew up listening and watching Nicki, she lost me sometime a long the way but I myself seen the way JT and ice was using the barbs to get approval just bc Nicki acknowledged them prior, but in short, I don’t see Nicki as the problem THIS time. She’s not in the right every time but this instance her fans are dtm for the girls that Nicki quietly doesn’t like, but will bash the other girls with no issue, about the same things jt and ice do. It’s a strange thing
I just read the caption and sounds like hell froze over lol …
I don’t think nicki needed new genz fans bc she already has a lot, genz nicki fans are hardcore bc they’ve been listening to her their entire lives. Gen alpha fans I could see that pov of her gaining a younger audience,but genz been listening to nicki since childhood, I find genz nicki fans go the hardest for her.
Im so tired and disappointed. How are u the rap queen and always acting mean. Even when something isnt direclty directed towards you. Its not normal
This was such an informative and insightful video! When Zach is passionate about an artist and the trajectory of their career then he’s putting out his best work!
Nicki can never be the “I don’t like you new girls” kinda girl because every female that came out , she’s embraced them and supported them , it never started off being bitter or jealous
Tttt
Nicki only supports the new girls until they start getting a lot of attention and love lol.
@@amysmith8043 This makes no sense tho bc her supporting them bring the attention and love. Look at the way the world went crazy when she posted Ice Spice.
that’s only what you saw on camera
You never heard about manipulation? Or taking advantage of someone? Lol I have been a fan of Nicki but that woman is clearly the problem
Cardi, Megan, Kash Doll, Lil Kim, Dej Loaf, Mariah Carey, USHER, etc, and NOW JT. I get that everybody won't get a long, but at some point it's you that's the problem. With the exclusion of Azealia and Ericka Banks. Unfortunately her fan base is just as deluded and the hate every female rapper she doesn't publicly endorse. The parallels between the barbs and Maga supporters is wild! I used to be a barb until the Pulse tragedy happened. Gays love Nicki, but what has Nicki ever done to show that love back? Go on Rupaul? Chile cheese..
No shade, the same can be said about Beyoncé not posting Chlöe’s album who’s under her label. Where’s the video not calling Beyoncé a girls girl? What popular black female artist has Beyoncé done a video with and truly shined with over the years? Beyoncé told Chlöe it’s important for her to stand on her own. Maybe JT/Nicki see it the same way. Jt’s City Cinderella is amazing. Nicki Minaj’s Pink Friday 2 is amazing. Chlöe’s in pieces was amazing & Beyonce’s Cowboy Carter is amazing. The click bate is late Zach, next topic please.
Beyonce literally gives everyone her flowers. She doesnt have to beg people to kiss her ass or tell us she’s the queen every 2 seconds. She gave chloe creative freedom and she also isnt chloes management.. she just signed her.
Let me tell you something.. nicki now is managing her own self and that's why i think that she doesn't have a PR team (Pedro isn't a good choice so i will not count him) like we all love the Nicki Minaj brand like she's NICKI MINAJ but she needs to re-hire her 2012-2014 PR team that work for her image and control her socil media cuz I'm barb since i was like 5 years old (13 years being a barb) I've idolized this woman for a decade and ik the REAL BRAND OF NICKI MINAJ and Nicki needs to stop giving female rappers collabs cuz i miss when my bch used to WASH men on records
Jts album was better than every rap girls album that dropped this year and appears to be much better than ice-spices
Im a Barb and I enjoyed JTs album
i liked the album but it wasn’t better than dojas deluxe (if we’re counting that since its a deluxe)
Nicki didn't feel the Album so no comment 😅
All right now.... people are starting to wake up and I love this
Ice spice was “the vibe” at the time SENT ME lol
Nicki being herself doesn’t surprise me 😂🤷🏽♀️ I like when she’s unhinged and speaks her mind