Katy Perry shouldve kept the sound of harley and hawaiis and delved into that. The funky 70s sound that acts like silk sonic and dua lipa were pushing into the mainstream again wouldve been new for her but also wouldve allowed her to be camp and with the retro aesthetic that she had during her debut and teenage dream
She has a decent album in 2017(isn’t on the same level has her albums before) and her last good song came out in 2019 which is Harley’s in Hawaii. But after 2020 with that HORRIBLE album (Smile) she fell of badly.
Yes!! I honestly think she's had some amazing album tracks off Witness and Smile like save as a draft, mind maze, only love, daises etc. Just songs that you can tell are really authentic and personal to her. My issue with her is most of the singles she chooses to release are horrendous and sound like something from 2010 (and not in a good way), and I think that's what lead to her downfall. I think Zach is exactly right - people like Gaga, Nicki and Rihanna have stepped away from that and look at them now they're still doing really well.
I disagree, her core fans just aren't as insane as the other girlies. They don't send death threats and can admit when their idol is wrong. Unlike Taylor or Beyonce.
@@MarianDown they are. Hence why NRO went top 20. Most if not all of her singles have charted on the BB hot 100 since 2017. She just doesn't have the GP behind her or a literally insane core fanbase. Part of the reason I like Katy more than the other girls is that "Katy Kats" aren't insane lunatics and don't pretend when she releases horrible songs unlike Bey and Taylor.
people just dont like katy anymore. but the dr luke situation made it worse. she never had a hardcore fanbase it seems like. mostly gp. a fanbase could have carried the valleys in her career
I liked her past empowerment anthems but this one didn't hit. Either because of the Dr. Luke factor or just because she's had quite a few gaffes since she last put out music and I think she needed to have a better single and less confusing video to come back with. This should have been the second single off the album once she reeled people back in
@@smithereens7105 i agree, womans world is okay at best. but thats the thing. hardcore fans/stans just support the music because its their fav. look at taylor and drake for example. they have not topped their best work with their most recent releases imo but the fans still support. witness and smile had standout songs on the album but the gp doesnt care for katy anymore.
I wonder why people still turn a blind eye to Beyonće working with The Dream who is not only a rap*st but also a domestic abuser who almost strangled his baby mama to death. I can never take performative activists seriously. Beyonće is about to give a music industry rap*st another Grammy for Cowboy Carter.
@@gonda3435It's crazy how people drag Katy for working with Dr Luke but literally turn a blind eye to Beyonće working with and giving Grammys to The Dream who is a notorious rap*st and domestic abuser. He has credits on Renaissance and Cowboy Carter but people will turn a blind eye to Beyonće working with and enabling industry rap*sts.
I used to love Katy Perry too, I was annoyed she let Taylor Swift get the best of her because Katy was truly that girl from 08-14! Ya had to be there. 😂
I’ve been saying this!! Katy was going to be what Taylor is now! After she released Prism, which was a huge hit, it started to go downhill and not because her music got worse, but i think a mixture of personal issues (divorce from that twit) and burnout maybe. Then she was MIA for a few years which allowed Taylor to swoop in, but people truly slept on Katy’s 2020 album SMILE. That album had SO MANY good songs and hits, frankly. “Harley’s in Hawaii” should have been top of the charts fight with the wall. But a bad release date and bad marketing of the album meant that it went unnoticed by soo many. Which is why this newest album is such a shock. How do you go from an album like SMILE, with brilliant tracks, to this cringe-fest of tone deaf girl empowerment. Did she read the zeitgeist currently? She needs to fire whoever is advising her, bc KATY YOU ARE BETTER THAN THIS GIRL 😭
I said the same thing last week! From the possibly unethical/murky/sus taking of other people's songs and reworking them into their own (Roar vs Brave; JLos numerous accusations), to the very disconnected grip on what's going on from a socio-poltical standpoint (Jlo mistreating laborers and accepting the gig of paying tribute to the Motown Soul tribute, and then Katy working with some very shady people including a violent rapist). Just so casually ignorant of all that surrounds her. It just kinda sucks, but alas-it's her own doing.
The probably is… Katy does not take criticism well. She seems to NOT care what people think or what people WILL think, based on their reactions and perceptions. Since the Witness era, she has made poor decisions. She made BAD singles for Witness (mainly Swish Swish and Bon Appetit; although the Bon Appetit music video ate, many people felt it was corny and I can see why), as well as making the Smile album art and promo look immature and inconsistent. And now, she’s leading herself into ANOTHER flop era, once again, with working with an abuser, along with using outdated/generic styling of music, as well as releasing CORNY music again. Katy failed to keep up with the current pop styles, along with keeping a decent reputations. As of now, she’s only a known pop star from the past, rather than today. Oh, Katy…
Unpopular opinion but I'll be the one to say it. Katy Perry does not 'NATURALLY' have a good ear for music. She struck gold the first half her career from amazing producers creating the concepts and sounds FOR her. But that can only go so far! So this decline we've seen since "Witness" is really just the producers/writers she continues to work with, running out of concepts for her. She needs to either learn to create more from her own ideas OR start working with radically different producers lol. Katy is talented but her strength is vocals, serving looks and performing the material. js 🤷🏾♀️
While I’m not a diehard Katy fan, she IS a lyricist in her own right and has a writing credit on all of her songs + some other artists’ materials, so she’s not just a pretty face and voice. That being said, I definitely agree that when it comes to production and artistry she absolutely needs help from the machine, which no longer wants to support her as much as before due to the gp’s lowering opinion on her.
@@catmania5 That's a fair point. I should've mentioned the lyricist that Katy is 💯. And for the very last point u mentioned is even more reason that she needs to work on the 'Artistry' aspect to compensate for that loss. Like u, I'm not die hard fan but I'm still rooting for her!
as a tired ass patreon member .. when you said “shexy confident” was the BEST moment .. and that it felt dated … I FELT THAT ! .. also i wish Zach would say “not like the GaGa’s, the Bey’s, and the Ariana’s…” instead of “the Rih’s” .. cause Rih hasn’t dropped in a minute!
WHY is everyone is singling Katy out for working Dr. Luke amid the sexual assault allegations in 2014 when Doja Cat, Nicki Minaj, Fifth Harmony, JLO, Kim Petras, Saweetie etc. have all worked with him? I'm not a Katy Perry fan, I'm just confused, I have not seen any backlash to this degree for anyone else.
Well i believe doja is contractually obligated to, im not sure about kim and 5th harmony doesn’t exist anymore, but none of the girls mentioned are known for their neoliberal political music and female empowerment anthems, while katy is. And katy trying to sell a song called Woman’s World with luke is beyond ironic and tonedeaf considering her message.
Because KATY was a close friend to Kesha, it’s not the same when your friend stabs you in the back and when it’s someone who doesn’t even know you (like doja, kim, saweetie) Katy and Kesha were friends and it’s even more evil what Katy did to her friend, you can not compare Katy to Doja and others.
@@angelacuebasmercado4036 Yes but that's seems little unfair considering all of these celebrities amid of the allegation, I guess because there was no evidence to charge him? Her song trash but bashing for working with a man hundreds of artists have worked with is odd
Katy should have went w the “Thinking of You” vibe a bit harder. That is my FAVORITE Katy Perry song of all time and I think that vibe would have been a lasting pivot
It's crazy how people drag Katy for working with Dr Luke but literally turn a blind eye to Beyonće working with and giving Grammys to The Dream who is a notorious rap*st and domestic abuser. He has credits on Renaissance and Cowboy Carter but people will turn a blind eye to Beyonće working with and enabling industry rap*sts.
I just have to laugh at the fact that Katy Perry was literally the queen of bubble gum fun pop music in the 2010s and the same artist who looked up to her as children are beating her at her own game like Sabrina Carpenter and chapel roan are literally giving us the music we wanted Katy Perry to come back with like how are you flopping in a genre you literally thrived in
Katy never had a solid fanbase like the beyhive, barbz, swifties & lil monsters A hardcore fanbase will carry your album even if its flopping, Katy is just like Adele her fanbase is the GP which means no loyal fanbase!
I used that line so much during Witness era because when Katy made that statement herself regarding Mariah back in the Prism era I knew it was the kiss of death for her career... u never shade the Queen MC and live to see another meaningful day on Billboard (i.e. J.Lo)😅
Dr Luke literally invented Doja Cat's Pop-Disco and bubblegum pop sound that everyone is praising her for. So I wouldn't say his sound is dated especially if he produced Doja Cat's biggest hits.
@@AG-fg1uk the sound is definitely not dated for sure cus we have songs like expresso that’s popular rn but in terms of Katie’s sound, it sounds like something from smile and witness or like a prism reject so we have baso heard it before. Dr Luke has made bops but he’s just not a good person and Katy choosing him to produce a female anthem just wasn’t a good choice in my opinion.
@@bengillies1030It's crazy how people drag Katy for working with Dr Luke but literally turn a blind eye to Beyonće working with and giving Grammys to The Dream who is a notorious rap*st and domestic abuser. He has credits on Renaissance and Cowboy Carter but people will turn a blind eye to Beyonće working with and enabling industry rap*sts.
@@AG-fg1ukit’s literally not people turning a blind eye but rather most of those not knowing. The general public isn’t checking album credits so be so damn serious right now. Katy openly admitted to working with Luke. That’s the difference.
@@AG-fg1uk Geez. The praise for this man 💀 Luke didn’t invent nu disco. And the only songs he actually produced for Doja was Say So, Rules, Like That, Shine & Juicy [from Hot Pink], as well as Need To Know, You Right & Tonight [from Planet Her]. Kiss Me More wasn’t produced by him, he only co-wrote it with 8 additional writers. The other songs from Planet Her are literally just vanity credits (2%-5% cuts) he recieved LAST YEAR from some supposed deal with Doja (rumoured to be why Doja managed to get him off Scarlet). He’s not in the original liner notes for Get Into It, Woman, Ain’t Shit etc because he originally had nothing to do with those songs. Also, the reason Espresso sounds like Say So is because of Oliver, who made those free splice loops Espresso was built on. Vaughn Oliver is a Luke signee and they began working together around 2017, so you can guess where Luke got that sound.
They had Judas playing in grocery stores during its heyday, and I remember I live in a country whose Archbishop actively tried to petition Gaga to be banned from entering (this was during her BTW era) as she was a "satanic harlot preaching blasphemy and evil to our impressionable youth" and my gay ass was resisting trying not to do dance the choreography everytime it played
I wish she would lean into the more rockish One of the Boys era, it really suits her and has more longevity than the 2010’s bubblegum pop she made. I Kissed a Girl had some grit and felt so fresh. Idk i feel like she’s missing authenticity and vision.
Katy Perry talked crap about Britney Spears when she was under her conservatorship and made fun of her mental illness that’s why a lot of people hate her🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️.
I put her in the same category of Eminem in the sense that: they both have talent and what they did in their time worked very well, but they haven’t learned to adapt it to the current year.
i don't think this is the end of her career by any means. for example, cher was 52 when believe came out, proving that age is irrelevant when it comes to making hits (and it also revived her career). katy just needs to make songs that reflect the times that we live in and i think she could have a decent comeback.
Cher was different though, she had the talent. Katy has talent but it’s not like she has an amazing voice that can wow people. She had fun pop songs but those are easily forgettable.
I wonder why people still turn a blind eye to Beyonće working with The Dream who is not only a rap*st but also a domestic abuser who almost strangled his baby mama to death. I can never take performative activists seriously. Beyonće is about to give a music industry rap*st another Grammy for Cowboy Carter.
Campy can’t be over when we’ve got Chappell Roan rising to stardom. Honestly, as a former Katy Kat I think that she shot herself in the foot during the Witness Era live stream in the Witness house. Something about it felt very staged and inauthentic when it came to pushing her new brand. as a fan I remember signing off during the Witness era. Especially after that live stream. There were so many memes about how cringe it was and I remember watching it in real time.
Katy is inauthentic. She always has been. She doesn’t care about anyone but herself. The fact that she partnered with that man for this ridiculous song and didn’t see how that would not go over well says a lot about her lack of character. She’s not a good person. I’m glad she’s revealed her true colors.
Katy started out as a Christian Signer being abused by her parents and then got dropped from her label, busted her butt to get a record deal that failed and then got the deal of a lifetime and actually wrote many of her songs. She has been working with Dr. Luke and so have many more after what happened to Kesha. She can make whatever she wants, you don't have to like it, but you also don't know her to say she is showing her true colors. Stop projecting your expectations on someone you don't know to say she is or isn't a good person. This is music, she is not in any lane to make actual decisions that impact people like a politician would. Ya'll need help.
She is a good person, i do not know why you even trying to make this random women be evil so damn bad but it really concerning to even jump start off her as a person immediately. That's a weird and kinda saying something about you but.. ANYWAYS~
@24kgoldplatedvermeil Why do you think you can just tell someone is lying because abused adds sadness to her life and it must not for you to have a point. Like girl, you're weird. I don't know if it true or not but i aint here being fxcking desrespectful.
@@raymondpastoral2311I don’t think she’s passionate about acting. Also there’s already an established actress that looks exactly like her named Zooey Deschanel so it’ll be hard for her to make a name on that industry.
The thing with Katy Perry is that she doesn't read the room. She is talented, she is beautiful, she has everything that a pop superstar needs, and that's what made her a pop superstar in the first place. But with times, she didn't gauge the environment around her and what people want from her. People were riding high on her nostalgia recently, and that was evident by the amount of viral tweets and social media chatter when she announced new music. Like there was GENUINE interest in her this time around, and this was her chance to come back with something that shows how she has grown as an artist and how motherhood and all the life experiences as well as being a veteran in the industry has shaped her in 2024. People were actually waiting for the pop-rock Katy to come back because that's where her artistry, her musicianship and her personality really shined. But nope, she came back with the same ass tired empowerment shite that came across as formulaic and not genuine. It only looked like she was chasing her past glory and mass appeal with this song, and not actually working on making music that's authentic to her or substantial. I'm sure this album will have some hidden gems like all her albums have, even Witness and Smile have those. But once again, her marketing and packaging of the era and the album as something having no substance has already made this era a disaster, and for that reason, she will flop commercially again.
what's funny is that Smile is a better album than Witness. Never Really Over was a bop immediately and i remember there was an article that said Katy's team doesn't know how to listen to her audience as we loved NRO's sound so much, but they then released after that a song that was a lot slower. Smile has so many good songs, but most of them are anthems and we have outgrown that empowering era of music, yet Katy hasn't. she is stuck sonically, and i think she went back to Dr Luke because he produced her last very successful hit, Roar.
It's crazy how people drag Katy for working with Dr Luke but literally turn a blind eye to Beyonće working with and giving Grammys to The Dream who is a notorious rap*st and domestic abuser. He has credits on Renaissance and Cowboy Carter but people will turn a blind eye to Beyonće working with and enabling industry rap*sts.
I love Katy, especially during the Teenage Dreams era. However, this new song is lazy and a water down version of roar, rise........girl, we're past 2011.
it is kinda wild that Katy's been getting dragged but Dr. Luke had plenty of hits with many artists just last year alone, so the fake outrage is crazy to see. She was stupid/tone deaf for creating a "woman's anthem" with him tho as if it wasn't gonna get clocked🤣
Every single artist that has worked with him has gotten clocked and dragged for it. If you personally haven’t seen it, you should look it up. The only reason people aren’t AS on other artists head about it is because most of them have been contractually obligated to work with him and obviously they can’t help or do anything about that when that’s the case. And most of them have been open about that and addressed in some way. As Zach pointed out, Katy has said exactly nothing about it. Also not every artist is katy perry. She is-or was-one of the biggest artists in the world. We don’t even know half the other people that was working with dr like no shade.
@@yoonbibaby1122 you’re right, I know for the most part everyone gets scalped a bit for working with him but you confirmed my point that the heat on Katy is higher, for reasons that you mentioned. My point is no matter the reasoning, the hypocrisy from the public has been wild to watch & it’s more so commentary on the fans than the artist. Because it seems like it’s only “boycott Dr Luke” “we stand with Kesha” when the song sucks or it’s an artist they don’t like, but if it’s their fav it’s “she was obligated, she didn’t know, they’re not as famous” etc.. I do think the argument of who Katy is/what she has been known for & still working with him is valid tho
I haven't been looking into the outrage but I personally think the optics of working with a known grapist on a woman's anthem song are outrageous. *_And_* to top it off, the song is fucking terrible?! Double homicide. I've never been so happy to not be a katy kitten or whatever she calls her fans.
Exactly. Dr Luke literally created Doja Cat's Pop-Disco sound that everyone is praising her for. Beyonće is still working with The Dream and giving him Grammys despite him being a rap*st and domestic abuser.
Witness was a great album with a terrible album rollout. Chained to the Rhythm, Bon Appetit, Swish Swish, and Tsunami. Smile was a great album to!!! I’ll never forgive the general public for paying Harley’s in Hawaii absolute dust. Unforgivable.
Something you mention in this video and your last on her……the writing. Katy left her dream team of writers and producers like Bonnie McKee, Benny, Martin and others to work with new people. Which is when she flopped. She could’ve brought back her entire dream team, but instead chose to work with the one person her label told her not to, Luke. She and Bonnie were writing magic, the writing has suffered since she stopped working with her.
I like the intro to swish swish & how she's singing and the melody during the first verse. the whole song should've sounded like that. Expanding on the sound the first verse gave.
Morally, working with Dr Luke is awful and such a mistake. Musically however, Woman’s World and the rest of the snippets are absolutely kind of brain less, yes, but they’re also fun. And that is exactly what Katy is known for. Since Witness ppl have been complaining when she changes things up but when she stays the same ppl say she needs to change. Alot of the problems with her career are the listeners. We are also kind of the problem here.
Dr luke is very active in the politics in Hollywood and the music industry, a lot of his albums have won Grammys. I think this is Katy metaphorically selling her soul to finally snatch a grammy
I think Katy never had a chance to have longevity. Her tacky aesthetic, her cringey humor, her out of touchness, her shallow music... She can't do what she did in 2010 cuz it's a different public and she can't grow out of that either.
The music post Witness has been great - it’s just the branding that has made it perform so poorly. She needs to rebuild and rewrite her narrative. That’s what puts other pop artists ahead of her and has kept them relevant.
There's a story where she allegedly sexually harassed one of his male dancers back in the day, lots of people don't pay attention to it because it was a male victim but the story is out there.
I don’t think it’s fair for everyone to be bashing and attacking Katy for having dr like credited. People give Doja a pass because she was apparently forced to put him on the credits whos to say Katy wasn’t obligated to put him on the credits as well or that she has a contract with him that she can’t get out of. It’s not fair for us to make a decision when we don’t even know the behind the scenes tea
This reading was EVERYTHING! Bc who was this video actually for, when the TikTok dancer said who are you.. I legit thought WHO THE HELL ARE YOU SIS?!? Because Katy this anthem was giving I’ll put some shit together with random writers and see if it sticks. Why did she think parading in a swimsuit and putting a gas pump in her cheek was a “funny” or “empowering” thing to do? It was VERY tired. I just sat in confusion the whole damn video. New Sub here!! 🤣
the album was doomed 🥴 her knowing Dr Luke's history in the industry and choosing to move forward with a whole collaborative project rather than work with someone that would actually enhance her sound to a point that's digestible to people other than hardcore Katy Cats is all you need to know about the creative process. It's just comes across HORRIBLY forced and over produced even in an industry plant way
I just wish she would delve more into sultry pop like Harley’s in Hawaii and 365!! If she has an album of just that type of music she would literally be blowing up rn
I feel like everyone is just taking it too seriously lol Katy Perry is known to make cute, fun, and corny pop songs... I understand she worked w dr Luke, but so have other artist in the past recent years, but she gets the most backlash for it. I don't think she takes her music too seriously, and she just enjoys making simple/corny pop music for the fun of it and fans at this point.
Katy Perry lost steam the moment she overfocused on her previous feud with Taylor Swift during Prism and Witness eras, the very same timeline where Meghan Trainor started going head-to-head with her in terms of cheesy, cringey bubblegum pop brand. But looking back, she was also massively set up by the global mainstream media when they tried to put her on a higher pedestal simply because Roar beat Lady Gaga's Applause on the charts but that was it. Fast forward to now and it's a far cry from Lady Gaga regaining momentum and resurgence across different fields of mainstream entertainment industry, music included.
I think Katy would still flop if she stayed in her bubblegum pop lane. Because let's be real, her bubblegum sound might be infectious but it's tired now. Like how Meghan Trainor tryna revive her mainstream success by releasing the same song. Katy would've been more respected if she improves her songwriting skills, collaborate with other producers rather than replicating hits and try to explore more genres that fit her voice. I also believe she's trying to capture the magic of her hits because she sold her discography years before and she'll be needing new moneymakers after leaving American Idol.
12:25 didn’t age well many men and women that have worked under Katy while on tour tried to press her with charges of being assaulted and her making suggestive and inappropriate comments to them
The same people who are attacking Katy for working dr like are the same ones who put money in his pocket by streaming and making songs like say so and kiss me more and even super freaky girl number 1. People who streamed or bought those songs directly put money into dr lukes pocket to use against Kesha.
Dr Luke steals production credits from his artists. Malibu Babie, the female producer that produced Super Freaky Girl is also signed under Dr Luke's label. That's why he has production credits on SFG.
This exactly. If we’re cancelling Katy for this, then everyone else needs to be cancelled too. Doja Cat and Kim Petras had contractual obligations, but Nicki Minaj working with him is just weird. She seemingly loves surrounding herself with abusers. So many others (Saweetie, Latto, etc.) need to be held accountable too.
i would love to see what you think of kesha’s comeback. with her being talked about through the release of woman’s world, i would love to see what you think of the music she’s making and putting out now that she’s finally out of the dr luke situation and on her own label
Also YES Zac with PRISM we started to see the foundation crack, but the music was still good and to brand so it was mostly overlooked .. but then it all came out in Witness and she's been in the basement ever since lololol
18:38 also a lot of people were listening to the radio now everyone has spotify or apple music so if they aren’t looking you up or you aren’t in their algorithm nbs really checking for you
Stan culture ruined everything!!! People forgot to have fun and the only conversation right now is about fkin stream, sells or charts!!! It’s exhausting… JUST HAVE FUN and if you don’t like it skip it
WOW, you took every word out my mouth and said it! It is very true this generation of listeners changed, they want to feel again! I think we are the same age Mr. Campbell everything you say is spot on. You did your homework, and Aced it. Katy Perry has been gone for too long, she needed go be active to be relatable in today’s Music.
you say everyone got tired of artists like olivia rodrigo and taylor swift but isnt it funny how they are both the most successful pop women of the 2020s?
@@leo2ube you can claim whatever you want, but at the end of the day, she’s the one that’s selling out stadiums across the world with the highest grossing tour of ALL TIME. period😘
Katy Perry shouldve kept the sound of harley and hawaiis and delved into that. The funky 70s sound that acts like silk sonic and dua lipa were pushing into the mainstream again wouldve been new for her but also wouldve allowed her to be camp and with the retro aesthetic that she had during her debut and teenage dream
Those were my thoughts exactly
I agree.
The retail stores that would have made this song triple platinum are all dying or out of business and I think that says a lot..
Oop!!
Clock it ⏰️
No shade, All Tea
Clock that shit 🔥🔥
Clock that shit 🔥🔥
She really made my Grandmother feel empowered! She been in a wheelchair for months and got the power to get up and turn off the tv!
😂
Man, you're grandma did not deserve that 😂
That made me giggle😂
I’m going to use that comment in other Katy Perry reviews or any other bad “women empowerment” videos 😅
I feel like her Super Bowl performance was her last big moment in the mainstream and then she started to flop
She might not hace anything more to give and that's ok
She has a decent album in 2017(isn’t on the same level has her albums before) and her last good song came out in 2019 which is Harley’s in Hawaii. But after 2020 with that HORRIBLE album (Smile) she fell of badly.
That’s what she gets for trying to sabotage lady gaga and marina and the diamonds/ charli xcx by trying to be them
@@Peterrdee how did she try to do that?
They're all queens and miss Perry is more of a court jester@@Peterrdee
I broke my ankle running to these comments
same 😭 i was waiting for his reaction lol
CRYING😂🤣
We are here for you! 😂😂
Get well soon ❤️🩹 😂
I almost spilt my beer clicking on this video 😂
don't these people do focus groups?! i feel like any gay man could have been like "NOPE!"
Exactly!
they got that trisha influencer girl and she was like omg this a hit 💀
i just not making any sense. even she doesn’t have. she should’ve know this would happen is she work with the alleged abuser
the song is about women, why do you think we gaf what some sissy men think? it doesn't concern you
😂😂😂@@guenori
IDC Harleys in Hawaii & Rise are one of my all time fav Katy songs!
Harley’s in Hawaii is a bop 🎉❤
Rise is sooo underrated, has been getting me through some things lately honestly..also Tucked is fun too
Harley’s in Hawaii was good it came out in 2019 right before her downfall in 2020 with the smile album after that she’s fell off badly.
🗣️🗣️🗣️🛵🛵 🌺 🎉
Yes!! I honestly think she's had some amazing album tracks off Witness and Smile like save as a draft, mind maze, only love, daises etc. Just songs that you can tell are really authentic and personal to her. My issue with her is most of the singles she chooses to release are horrendous and sound like something from 2010 (and not in a good way), and I think that's what lead to her downfall. I think Zach is exactly right - people like Gaga, Nicki and Rihanna have stepped away from that and look at them now they're still doing really well.
the problem with Katy is that while she was once consumed by the GP at a vast amount, she never solidified a "core" stan group like her pop peers
I disagree, her core fans just aren't as insane as the other girlies. They don't send death threats and can admit when their idol is wrong. Unlike Taylor or Beyonce.
@@jonova3360 so why aren't her "core fans" listening to what she does after 2017? Because they are non-existent.
@@MarianDown they are. Hence why NRO went top 20. Most if not all of her singles have charted on the BB hot 100 since 2017. She just doesn't have the GP behind her or a literally insane core fanbase. Part of the reason I like Katy more than the other girls is that "Katy Kats" aren't insane lunatics and don't pretend when she releases horrible songs unlike Bey and Taylor.
@@jonova3360her stans have literally been attacking Kesha and making fun of the abuse she endured
@@calci2679 very very few, and let's be real half the people are listening to Joyride not to prop up Kesha but because they hate Katy
people just dont like katy anymore. but the dr luke situation made it worse. she never had a hardcore fanbase it seems like. mostly gp. a fanbase could have carried the valleys in her career
I liked her past empowerment anthems but this one didn't hit. Either because of the Dr. Luke factor or just because she's had quite a few gaffes since she last put out music and I think she needed to have a better single and less confusing video to come back with. This should have been the second single off the album once she reeled people back in
@@smithereens7105 i agree, womans world is okay at best. but thats the thing. hardcore fans/stans just support the music because its their fav. look at taylor and drake for example. they have not topped their best work with their most recent releases imo but the fans still support. witness and smile had standout songs on the album but the gp doesnt care for katy anymore.
I wonder why people still turn a blind eye to Beyonće working with The Dream who is not only a rap*st but also a domestic abuser who almost strangled his baby mama to death. I can never take performative activists seriously. Beyonće is about to give a music industry rap*st another Grammy for Cowboy Carter.
@@gonda3435It's crazy how people drag Katy for working with Dr Luke but literally turn a blind eye to Beyonće working with and giving Grammys to The Dream who is a notorious rap*st and domestic abuser. He has credits on Renaissance and Cowboy Carter but people will turn a blind eye to Beyonće working with and enabling industry rap*sts.
I liked “You’re so gay and you don’t even like boys” and “why am I wearing your class ring?” Katy Perry but that girl is long gone.
That Katy Perry was just ughhhhh *chef's kiss*. You couldn't tell me nothing about Katyyyy.
I used to love Katy Perry too, I was annoyed she let Taylor Swift get the best of her because Katy was truly that girl from 08-14! Ya had to be there. 😂
Right, you really did have to be there, lol.
Yup! I was there lol
i was there
Most of us were there? This was only 15 years ago?
I’ve been saying this!! Katy was going to be what Taylor is now! After she released Prism, which was a huge hit, it started to go downhill and not because her music got worse, but i think a mixture of personal issues (divorce from that twit) and burnout maybe. Then she was MIA for a few years which allowed Taylor to swoop in, but people truly slept on Katy’s 2020 album SMILE. That album had SO MANY good songs and hits, frankly. “Harley’s in Hawaii” should have been top of the charts fight with the wall. But a bad release date and bad marketing of the album meant that it went unnoticed by soo many.
Which is why this newest album is such a shock. How do you go from an album like SMILE, with brilliant tracks, to this cringe-fest of tone deaf girl empowerment. Did she read the zeitgeist currently? She needs to fire whoever is advising her, bc KATY YOU ARE BETTER THAN THIS GIRL 😭
I feel like Katy is going down the Jlo road when it comes to how they're perceived
I said the same thing last week! From the possibly unethical/murky/sus taking of other people's songs and reworking them into their own (Roar vs Brave; JLos numerous accusations), to the very disconnected grip on what's going on from a socio-poltical standpoint (Jlo mistreating laborers and accepting the gig of paying tribute to the Motown Soul tribute, and then Katy working with some very shady people including a violent rapist). Just so casually ignorant of all that surrounds her. It just kinda sucks, but alas-it's her own doing.
Personally, her image shattered for me during her Witness promo & the fact that she got Me Too-ed.
except katy atleast has people going back to her older music still
@@Poufkimashoula1 Me too-ed? When was that?
The probably is… Katy does not take criticism well. She seems to NOT care what people think or what people WILL think, based on their reactions and perceptions. Since the Witness era, she has made poor decisions. She made BAD singles for Witness (mainly Swish Swish and Bon Appetit; although the Bon Appetit music video ate, many people felt it was corny and I can see why), as well as making the Smile album art and promo look immature and inconsistent. And now, she’s leading herself into ANOTHER flop era, once again, with working with an abuser, along with using outdated/generic styling of music, as well as releasing CORNY music again. Katy failed to keep up with the current pop styles, along with keeping a decent reputations. As of now, she’s only a known pop star from the past, rather than today. Oh, Katy…
I also DID just STARE at the music video….. I wasn’t sure wtf I was watching.
Katy is a talented singer, but I feel like her music just won't evolve with the times.
Teenage Dream is a staple album of my life. I hate how her career has progressed since that era
Unpopular opinion but I'll be the one to say it. Katy Perry does not 'NATURALLY' have a good ear for music.
She struck gold the first half her career from amazing producers creating the concepts and sounds FOR her. But that can only go so far!
So this decline we've seen since "Witness" is really just the producers/writers she continues to work with, running out of concepts for her.
She needs to either learn to create more from her own ideas OR start working with radically different producers lol. Katy is talented but her strength is vocals, serving looks and performing the material. js 🤷🏾♀️
While I’m not a diehard Katy fan, she IS a lyricist in her own right and has a writing credit on all of her songs + some other artists’ materials, so she’s not just a pretty face and voice.
That being said, I definitely agree that when it comes to production and artistry she absolutely needs help from the machine, which no longer wants to support her as much as before due to the gp’s lowering opinion on her.
@@catmania5 That's a fair point. I should've mentioned the lyricist that Katy is 💯. And for the very last point u mentioned is even more reason that she needs to work on the 'Artistry' aspect to compensate for that loss. Like u, I'm not die hard fan but I'm still rooting for her!
She was a huge Alanis Morissette fan; she originally wanted to have a sound like that. She does have a good ear…just not for pop (unless it’s 365)
The "Who is this for" took me😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
“Sexy confident.” I spit my food out! 😂😂😂
I was eating doritos and almost choked 😂🤣😭
he sounded like rupaul 😭
as a tired ass patreon member .. when you said “shexy confident” was the BEST moment .. and that it felt dated … I FELT THAT ! .. also i wish Zach would say “not like the GaGa’s, the Bey’s, and the Ariana’s…” instead of “the Rih’s” .. cause Rih hasn’t dropped in a minute!
I think he's including relevancy and stardom rather than just the music.
rih will always have her spot, she solidified herself 👑
Lmaoo I thought about that when I was editing! I was like girl now Rihanna ain’t dropped in almost 10 years 😂 She’s truly just that girl!
WHY is everyone is singling Katy out for working Dr. Luke amid the sexual assault allegations in 2014 when Doja Cat, Nicki Minaj, Fifth Harmony, JLO, Kim Petras, Saweetie etc. have all worked with him?
I'm not a Katy Perry fan, I'm just confused, I have not seen any backlash to this degree for anyone else.
Well i believe doja is contractually obligated to, im not sure about kim and 5th harmony doesn’t exist anymore, but none of the girls mentioned are known for their neoliberal political music and female empowerment anthems, while katy is. And katy trying to sell a song called Woman’s World with luke is beyond ironic and tonedeaf considering her message.
Because KATY was a close friend to Kesha, it’s not the same when your friend stabs you in the back and when it’s someone who doesn’t even know you (like doja, kim, saweetie) Katy and Kesha were friends and it’s even more evil what Katy did to her friend, you can not compare Katy to Doja and others.
@@angelacuebasmercado4036 Yes but that's seems little unfair considering all of these celebrities amid of the allegation, I guess because there was no evidence to charge him? Her song trash but bashing for working with a man hundreds of artists have worked with is odd
@@angelacuebasmercado4036but is Doja really in an obligation? How many she got left? I honestly wanna know.
yep just said this, its interesting to see the goal post get moved and excuses be made based on who people like
Katy should have went w the “Thinking of You” vibe a bit harder. That is my FAVORITE Katy Perry song of all time and I think that vibe would have been a lasting pivot
That, Harleys in Hawaii, and Unconditionally are my favorite songs of her because they seem the least corny or bubblegum like.
you are so right
Agreed! 💯💯💯
Yes!
THIS.
Besides working with Dr Luke, the song was just incredibly generic and dated
It's crazy how people drag Katy for working with Dr Luke but literally turn a blind eye to Beyonće working with and giving Grammys to The Dream who is a notorious rap*st and domestic abuser. He has credits on Renaissance and Cowboy Carter but people will turn a blind eye to Beyonće working with and enabling industry rap*sts.
The was revealed after cowboy Carter was released. Katy brand literally conflicts with working with Dr. Luke. @@AG-fg1uk
@@AG-fg1ukwhere’s the article ?
It’s giving grown up JoJo Siwa 😅
😂 that's the perfect description of katy right now.
THAT'S IT! I couldn't find the words, but you just did it.
😂😂😂😂😂
idk why she couldve just got max martin, like baby you have to money
She did also work with him on this album
SHE DID!! Everyone just has to be patient 🙏
Max is on the album.
Control your excitement, if Dr. Luke is prod. Everyone will cancel the song even tho he’s produced hundreds of songs for other artists. 🙄
@@whippyicewillofficial5nobody has to patient
Your "sexyyy, confident!" at the beginning sounded like deceased Broadway legend Carol Channing
I heard it but I thought it sounded like detox or a drag race snatch game impression of Carol channing 💀
I just have to laugh at the fact that Katy Perry was literally the queen of bubble gum fun pop music in the 2010s and the same artist who looked up to her as children are beating her at her own game like Sabrina Carpenter and chapel roan are literally giving us the music we wanted Katy Perry to come back with like how are you flopping in a genre you literally thrived in
Katy never had a solid fanbase like the beyhive, barbz, swifties & lil monsters
A hardcore fanbase will carry your album even if its flopping,
Katy is just like Adele her fanbase is the GP which means no loyal fanbase!
case in point, pink friday 2. The only reason it did so well was bc of the barbz who’ll support nicki all the way til the end
Katy is cute for a throwback.
overused and lame joke. you'll never be on her level bby
@@KatyPerryDailythey are talking about Mariah Carey who is only relevant around the Christmas period 😂
I used that line so much during Witness era because when Katy made that statement herself regarding Mariah back in the Prism era I knew it was the kiss of death for her career... u never shade the Queen MC and live to see another meaningful day on Billboard (i.e. J.Lo)😅
Unlike Katy who's irrelevant all year round
@LewisPerry2001 And when is Katy relevant???🎤
Working with dr Luke and her sound being stuck in 2010s/ not evolving is why she will flop to me
Dr Luke literally invented Doja Cat's Pop-Disco and bubblegum pop sound that everyone is praising her for. So I wouldn't say his sound is dated especially if he produced Doja Cat's biggest hits.
@@AG-fg1uk the sound is definitely not dated for sure cus we have songs like expresso that’s popular rn but in terms of Katie’s sound, it sounds like something from smile and witness or like a prism reject so we have baso heard it before. Dr Luke has made bops but he’s just not a good person and Katy choosing him to produce a female anthem just wasn’t a good choice in my opinion.
@@bengillies1030It's crazy how people drag Katy for working with Dr Luke but literally turn a blind eye to Beyonće working with and giving Grammys to The Dream who is a notorious rap*st and domestic abuser. He has credits on Renaissance and Cowboy Carter but people will turn a blind eye to Beyonće working with and enabling industry rap*sts.
@@AG-fg1ukit’s literally not people turning a blind eye but rather most of those not knowing. The general public isn’t checking album credits so be so damn serious right now. Katy openly admitted to working with Luke. That’s the difference.
@@AG-fg1uk Geez. The praise for this man 💀 Luke didn’t invent nu disco. And the only songs he actually produced for Doja was Say So, Rules, Like That, Shine & Juicy [from Hot Pink], as well as Need To Know, You Right & Tonight [from Planet Her]. Kiss Me More wasn’t produced by him, he only co-wrote it with 8 additional writers. The other songs from Planet Her are literally just vanity credits (2%-5% cuts) he recieved LAST YEAR from some supposed deal with Doja (rumoured to be why Doja managed to get him off Scarlet). He’s not in the original liner notes for Get Into It, Woman, Ain’t Shit etc because he originally had nothing to do with those songs.
Also, the reason Espresso sounds like Say So is because of Oliver, who made those
free splice loops Espresso was built on. Vaughn Oliver is a Luke signee and they began working together around 2017, so you can guess where Luke got that sound.
"Judas" at the grocery store is insane 😅😂😂
lol they used to putt it in Paris at malls haha
They play Bloody Mary in my local supermarket LOL
They had Judas playing in grocery stores during its heyday, and I remember I live in a country whose Archbishop actively tried to petition Gaga to be banned from entering (this was during her BTW era) as she was a "satanic harlot preaching blasphemy and evil to our impressionable youth" and my gay ass was resisting trying not to do dance the choreography everytime it played
It would be a whole mood though 😂😂😂
I'd break into the choreo. Such an iconic song.
I wish she would lean into the more rockish One of the Boys era, it really suits her and has more longevity than the 2010’s bubblegum pop she made.
I Kissed a Girl had some grit and felt so fresh. Idk i feel like she’s missing authenticity and vision.
i wanted that SOOO BAD😩
Yes! She sang so well on that!
She could’ve gotten Juliette Lewis to produce a track for her
I Kissed a Girl is a banger
Yeah, Katy has a raspier voice that matches pop rock better.
My favorite KP era only second to Teenage Dream.
I completely agree with 365, love that song! ✨️
Loooove that song dooown
Katy Perry talked crap about Britney Spears when she was under her conservatorship and made fun of her mental illness that’s why a lot of people hate her🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️.
She has been a bully all along!!
Finally someone said this
I put her in the same category of Eminem in the sense that: they both have talent and what they did in their time worked very well, but they haven’t learned to adapt it to the current year.
Damn, this is so true. I played Eminem's new album last week and had secondhand embarassment.
Yes, Katy has evolved with her audience. It feels really juvenile.
i don't think this is the end of her career by any means. for example, cher was 52 when believe came out, proving that age is irrelevant when it comes to making hits (and it also revived her career). katy just needs to make songs that reflect the times that we live in and i think she could have a decent comeback.
Cher was different though, she had the talent. Katy has talent but it’s not like she has an amazing voice that can wow people. She had fun pop songs but those are easily forgettable.
I wonder why people still turn a blind eye to Beyonće working with The Dream who is not only a rap*st but also a domestic abuser who almost strangled his baby mama to death. I can never take performative activists seriously. Beyonće is about to give a music industry rap*st another Grammy for Cowboy Carter.
Yes, justice for 365! Such a banger.
365 is an epic song, still a banger imo.
I loved many songs on SMILE.
Teary eyes,
Harleys In Hawaii,
Not the end of the world,
Daisies.
Yess! I liked cry about it later and tucked too ❤❤
Never Really Over
Campy can’t be over when we’ve got Chappell Roan rising to stardom. Honestly, as a former Katy Kat I think that she shot herself in the foot during the Witness Era live stream in the Witness house. Something about it felt very staged and inauthentic when it came to pushing her new brand. as a fan I remember signing off during the Witness era. Especially after that live stream. There were so many memes about how cringe it was and I remember watching it in real time.
After Teenage Dream Katy became a singles artist .
Even though her Prism era was successful, only 2 singles were listened to by the general public.
she’s always been a singles artist? lol
Love love love 365! “I think about you all the time, 24/7, 365” it’s intoxicating the further you get into it in the best way
Katy is inauthentic. She always has been. She doesn’t care about anyone but herself. The fact that she partnered with that man for this ridiculous song and didn’t see how that would not go over well says a lot about her lack of character. She’s not a good person. I’m glad she’s revealed her true colors.
Couldn't have said it better.
Katy started out as a Christian Signer being abused by her parents and then got dropped from her label, busted her butt to get a record deal that failed and then got the deal of a lifetime and actually wrote many of her songs. She has been working with Dr. Luke and so have many more after what happened to Kesha. She can make whatever she wants, you don't have to like it, but you also don't know her to say she is showing her true colors. Stop projecting your expectations on someone you don't know to say she is or isn't a good person. This is music, she is not in any lane to make actual decisions that impact people like a politician would. Ya'll need help.
She also copied tf out of Gaga and got away with it.
She is a good person, i do not know why you even trying to make this random women be evil so damn bad but it really concerning to even jump start off her as a person immediately. That's a weird and kinda saying something about you but.. ANYWAYS~
@24kgoldplatedvermeil Why do you think you can just tell someone is lying because abused adds sadness to her life and it must not for you to have a point. Like girl, you're weird. I don't know if it true or not but i aint here being fxcking desrespectful.
I feel like Katy should be an actress now
Now girl you know the acting skills aren’t there for her to get into that😂💀
@@ozyvillanueva9277 I dunno....if u watch her mvs her acting is kinda cute
for real! she should follow gaga and transition to acting now. she may not act as good as gaga but honestly she really can
@@raymondpastoral2311I don’t think she’s passionate about acting. Also there’s already an established actress that looks exactly like her named Zooey Deschanel so it’ll be hard for her to make a name on that industry.
Don't put that into the universe??
The whole MV was a fever NIGHTMARE girllll
The thing with Katy Perry is that she doesn't read the room. She is talented, she is beautiful, she has everything that a pop superstar needs, and that's what made her a pop superstar in the first place. But with times, she didn't gauge the environment around her and what people want from her. People were riding high on her nostalgia recently, and that was evident by the amount of viral tweets and social media chatter when she announced new music. Like there was GENUINE interest in her this time around, and this was her chance to come back with something that shows how she has grown as an artist and how motherhood and all the life experiences as well as being a veteran in the industry has shaped her in 2024. People were actually waiting for the pop-rock Katy to come back because that's where her artistry, her musicianship and her personality really shined. But nope, she came back with the same ass tired empowerment shite that came across as formulaic and not genuine. It only looked like she was chasing her past glory and mass appeal with this song, and not actually working on making music that's authentic to her or substantial. I'm sure this album will have some hidden gems like all her albums have, even Witness and Smile have those. But once again, her marketing and packaging of the era and the album as something having no substance has already made this era a disaster, and for that reason, she will flop commercially again.
what's funny is that Smile is a better album than Witness. Never Really Over was a bop immediately and i remember there was an article that said Katy's team doesn't know how to listen to her audience as we loved NRO's sound so much, but they then released after that a song that was a lot slower. Smile has so many good songs, but most of them are anthems and we have outgrown that empowering era of music, yet Katy hasn't. she is stuck sonically, and i think she went back to Dr Luke because he produced her last very successful hit, Roar.
It's crazy how people drag Katy for working with Dr Luke but literally turn a blind eye to Beyonće working with and giving Grammys to The Dream who is a notorious rap*st and domestic abuser. He has credits on Renaissance and Cowboy Carter but people will turn a blind eye to Beyonće working with and enabling industry rap*sts.
@@AG-fg1uksis you wrote this already
I love Katy, especially during the Teenage Dreams era. However, this new song is lazy and a water down version of roar, rise........girl, we're past 2011.
He sounded like Bob the Drag Queen when he said “Sexy Confident” part 😭
I completely agree 😭😭 I thought the same thing
it is kinda wild that Katy's been getting dragged but Dr. Luke had plenty of hits with many artists just last year alone, so the fake outrage is crazy to see. She was stupid/tone deaf for creating a "woman's anthem" with him tho as if it wasn't gonna get clocked🤣
Every single artist that has worked with him has gotten clocked and dragged for it. If you personally haven’t seen it, you should look it up. The only reason people aren’t AS on other artists head about it is because most of them have been contractually obligated to work with him and obviously they can’t help or do anything about that when that’s the case. And most of them have been open about that and addressed in some way. As Zach pointed out, Katy has said exactly nothing about it.
Also not every artist is katy perry. She is-or was-one of the biggest artists in the world. We don’t even know half the other people that was working with dr like no shade.
@@yoonbibaby1122 you’re right, I know for the most part everyone gets scalped a bit for working with him but you confirmed my point that the heat on Katy is higher, for reasons that you mentioned. My point is no matter the reasoning, the hypocrisy from the public has been wild to watch & it’s more so commentary on the fans than the artist. Because it seems like it’s only “boycott Dr Luke” “we stand with Kesha” when the song sucks or it’s an artist they don’t like, but if it’s their fav it’s “she was obligated, she didn’t know, they’re not as famous” etc.. I do think the argument of who Katy is/what she has been known for & still working with him is valid tho
I haven't been looking into the outrage but I personally think the optics of working with a known grapist on a woman's anthem song are outrageous. *_And_* to top it off, the song is fucking terrible?! Double homicide. I've never been so happy to not be a katy kitten or whatever she calls her fans.
@@yoonbibaby1122 katy is also under contract with dr luke tho...shes not diff than a doja cat
Exactly. Dr Luke literally created Doja Cat's Pop-Disco sound that everyone is praising her for. Beyonće is still working with The Dream and giving him Grammys despite him being a rap*st and domestic abuser.
Zach's "Sexy, confident" gives Bob The Drag Queen as Carol Channing on Snatch Game, lolll.
Witness was a great album with a terrible album rollout. Chained to the Rhythm, Bon Appetit, Swish Swish, and Tsunami. Smile was a great album to!!! I’ll never forgive the general public for paying Harley’s in Hawaii absolute dust. Unforgivable.
Smile era was a flop but harleys in Hawaii was a masterpiece and i need more of that
And here you go delivering me .... nothing ... I screamed 😅
😂😂😂😂
Since the day this music video dropped I have been IMPATIENTLY waiting 😭🤣
Something you mention in this video and your last on her……the writing. Katy left her dream team of writers and producers like Bonnie McKee, Benny, Martin and others to work with new people. Which is when she flopped. She could’ve brought back her entire dream team, but instead chose to work with the one person her label told her not to, Luke. She and Bonnie were writing magic, the writing has suffered since she stopped working with her.
tsunami from witness is a bop for me
I like the intro of swish swish and how she sings and the melody during the 1st verse. That's how the song should've sounded.
I like the intro to swish swish & how she's singing and the melody during the first verse. the whole song should've sounded like that. Expanding on the sound the first verse gave.
Tsunami is that girl on Witness! So glad someone else loves it as much 🎉
Love Tsunami! It’s a chillwave influenced bob, that should have gotten more attention
Yes, mee too! I also like Deja Vu
Morally, working with Dr Luke is awful and such a mistake. Musically however, Woman’s World and the rest of the snippets are absolutely kind of brain less, yes, but they’re also fun. And that is exactly what Katy is known for. Since Witness ppl have been complaining when she changes things up but when she stays the same ppl say she needs to change. Alot of the problems with her career are the listeners. We are also kind of the problem here.
Sounds like she needs to release a “greatest hits” album with all the good songs off the last 3 albums AND her bops.
i think dua lipa has officially took katy perry place in bubble gum pop music its just different eras, 2010s and 2020s
Dr luke is very active in the politics in Hollywood and the music industry, a lot of his albums have won Grammys. I think this is Katy metaphorically selling her soul to finally snatch a grammy
I think Katy never had a chance to have longevity. Her tacky aesthetic, her cringey humor, her out of touchness, her shallow music... She can't do what she did in 2010 cuz it's a different public and she can't grow out of that either.
I’ll stand on this hill, Smile had bops. Champagne problems, cry about it later, Harley’s in Hawaii?!! A crime honestly
man now zach's voice saying "shexy confiDent" will always be in my head now
and it sure has ever since
I’m excited for her new album, more than I was for witness and smile
I really liked Smile it had great songs. Never bought Katy album except that one, it just had good vibes. Very solid pop record.
Mmm even Miley done reinvented herself and sound… oh baby! A risk taken to guarantee rewards!
everytime i video start i be singing the zoom call tune like its a real song!!!😹😹 BWAP BWAP BWAP BWAP
Let’s all stream JOYRIDE by KESHA !!!!!!!!!!!
Loved how he dragged katy this whole video ❤
I need a time machine to take me back to when Patreon never existed. 😔
Right... We are broke
We NEED alternatives to youtube, their chokehold on the video market is insane and their rules and algorithms are down right tyrannical
@@fedegerman1690well it’s not a obligation to join
Thank you for calling out the BS. The misogyny, working with a an abuser and all that.
The music post Witness has been great - it’s just the branding that has made it perform so poorly. She needs to rebuild and rewrite her narrative. That’s what puts other pop artists ahead of her and has kept them relevant.
There's a story where she allegedly sexually harassed one of his male dancers back in the day, lots of people don't pay attention to it because it was a male victim but the story is out there.
I don’t think it’s fair for everyone to be bashing and attacking Katy for having dr like credited. People give Doja a pass because she was apparently forced to put him on the credits whos to say Katy wasn’t obligated to put him on the credits as well or that she has a contract with him that she can’t get out of. It’s not fair for us to make a decision when we don’t even know the behind the scenes tea
This reading was EVERYTHING! Bc who was this video actually for, when the TikTok dancer said who are you.. I legit thought WHO THE HELL ARE YOU SIS?!? Because Katy this anthem was giving I’ll put some shit together with random writers and see if it sticks.
Why did she think parading in a swimsuit and putting a gas pump in her cheek was a “funny” or “empowering” thing to do? It was VERY tired. I just sat in confusion the whole damn video.
New Sub here!! 🤣
6:53-7:02 has me DYING!🤣🤣🤣 I re-watched it like 5 times Zach you are hilarious!🤣
😂😂😂😂 saaame
the album was doomed 🥴
her knowing Dr Luke's history in the industry and choosing to move forward with a whole collaborative project rather than work with someone that would actually enhance her sound to a point that's digestible to people other than hardcore Katy Cats is all you need to know about the creative process. It's just comes across HORRIBLY forced and over produced even in an industry plant way
“Every day is Groundhog Day-OO GIRL SMILE WAS BAD” 😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣
Let's not forget "DeJa Vu" from Witness! A WHOLE entire bop! And "Resilient" and "Not The End Of The World" from Smile were absolute bops as well!
I agree we are tired of the anthems girl 😩
you are a dude why would you comment on something you know nothing about? like what...
@@VLuava5v5 Sonically, Katy Perry’s anthem songs sound the same 🤔 what does being a dude have to do with anything ?
your a man. the anthem isnt even for you. you are not regina george youre just george reginold
@@michelangelowthey probably mean how can you be tired of her “female empowerment anthems” when they are presuming your gender of not being a female
I just wish she would delve more into sultry pop like Harley’s in Hawaii and 365!! If she has an album of just that type of music she would literally be blowing up rn
I feel like everyone is just taking it too seriously lol Katy Perry is known to make cute, fun, and corny pop songs... I understand she worked w dr Luke, but so have other artist in the past recent years, but she gets the most backlash for it. I don't think she takes her music too seriously, and she just enjoys making simple/corny pop music for the fun of it and fans at this point.
Katy Perry lost steam the moment she overfocused on her previous feud with Taylor Swift during Prism and Witness eras, the very same timeline where Meghan Trainor started going head-to-head with her in terms of cheesy, cringey bubblegum pop brand. But looking back, she was also massively set up by the global mainstream media when they tried to put her on a higher pedestal simply because Roar beat Lady Gaga's Applause on the charts but that was it. Fast forward to now and it's a far cry from Lady Gaga regaining momentum and resurgence across different fields of mainstream entertainment industry, music included.
I think Katy would still flop if she stayed in her bubblegum pop lane. Because let's be real, her bubblegum sound might be infectious but it's tired now. Like how Meghan Trainor tryna revive her mainstream success by releasing the same song. Katy would've been more respected if she improves her songwriting skills, collaborate with other producers rather than replicating hits and try to explore more genres that fit her voice.
I also believe she's trying to capture the magic of her hits because she sold her discography years before and she'll be needing new moneymakers after leaving American Idol.
365 is sooooo underrated truly
"no Catherine no ummm ummmmmm" print this on my grave stone
12:25 didn’t age well many men and women that have worked under Katy while on tour tried to press her with charges of being assaulted and her making suggestive and inappropriate comments to them
The same people who are attacking Katy for working dr like are the same ones who put money in his pocket by streaming and making songs like say so and kiss me more and even super freaky girl number 1. People who streamed or bought those songs directly put money into dr lukes pocket to use against Kesha.
Dr Luke steals production credits from his artists. Malibu Babie, the female producer that produced Super Freaky Girl is also signed under Dr Luke's label. That's why he has production credits on SFG.
This exactly. If we’re cancelling Katy for this, then everyone else needs to be cancelled too. Doja Cat and Kim Petras had contractual obligations, but Nicki Minaj working with him is just weird. She seemingly loves surrounding herself with abusers. So many others (Saweetie, Latto, etc.) need to be held accountable too.
i would love to see what you think of kesha’s comeback. with her being talked about through the release of woman’s world, i would love to see what you think of the music she’s making and putting out now that she’s finally out of the dr luke situation and on her own label
Also YES Zac with PRISM we started to see the foundation crack, but the music was still good and to brand so it was mostly overlooked .. but then it all came out in Witness and she's been in the basement ever since lololol
18:38 also a lot of people were listening to the radio now everyone has spotify or apple music so if they aren’t looking you up or you aren’t in their algorithm nbs really checking for you
No Katherine 😂😂😂
Stan culture ruined everything!!! People forgot to have fun and the only conversation right now is about fkin stream, sells or charts!!! It’s exhausting… JUST HAVE FUN and if you don’t like it skip it
“Who is this fouuuur” “ What is going on” 😂😂😂 I’m weakkkk
that took me outtttt 😭 like I felt him let’s ask the real questions!
@@Isaiahaiss literally tho 😂😂
Idk I feel like Katy needs to grow. Her music sounds like 2016 pop, and no one is trying to hear that.
Zac now that all the Little mix girls have dropped their debuts…. PLEASE REVIEW THEM ALL THAT WOULD EAT
As an 80's baby looking in, all the pop girls sound like sabrina carpenter. They all sing talking, talking singing. 🤷🏽♀️Imo
WOW, you took every word out my mouth and said it! It is very true this generation of listeners changed, they want to feel again! I think we are the same age Mr. Campbell everything you say is spot on. You did your homework, and Aced it. Katy Perry has been gone for too long, she needed go be active to be relatable in today’s Music.
you say everyone got tired of artists like olivia rodrigo and taylor swift but isnt it funny how they are both the most successful pop women of the 2020s?
Everyone is tired for reals 🙄🤦🏼.
@@leo2ube yup that’s why taylor has been on top for over a year but keep dreaming
@@shinyy160 y’all been pushing. Everyone knows she’s bland
@@leo2ube you can claim whatever you want, but at the end of the day, she’s the one that’s selling out stadiums across the world with the highest grossing tour of ALL TIME. period😘
@@shinyy160 okay still bland and overrated🤣🤣😂😂😂
SHE NOT GETTING THE RADIO PLAY SHE USED TOO I PROMISE i remember hearing katy at every store
I’ve heard judas in the grocery store.