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I bought the tundra just because it has less ,less means less can break, tundra hasn't changed because they don't need to ,it's rock solid. People only complain about small things ,but main things like reliability, power ,maintenance those are key factors.
Exact reason I just bought another Tundra... it is an amazing truck... doesn't mean that they can't improve a couple things here and there...but It is still the truck I go to.
It is funny how trucks have become luxury items instead of items for working class people. The funnier thing is that luxury vehicles are known to be unreliable and not very functional long term. I like function because it works over and over again.
@@yungzbuck3015 yeah that would be nice but to have the performance and reliability and great gas mileage is difficult. The smaller turbo engine with cylinder deactivation is not something that I want in a vehicle.
@Snake Plissken I know I’ve followed the depressing lazification of Americans in regards to vehicles closely. I don’t even care if it’s in a lower trim just give me a manual option. Almost all of the extras can be added later anyways.
@Snake Plissken I’m with you there. When I drive an automatic the vehicle is constantly hunting for gears. I often hit the gas expecting more power and then the car drops two gears a second before I’m at the speed I want to go. Automatics really confuse me.
@Snake Plissken fyi you could buy an 07 Chevy 1500 with the 4.8 v8 and a manual. Chevy offered a few sporty looking standard cabs with that setup. It was more of a dealer to dealer thing though. One of them was a Nascar theme.
I love the Tundra's minimalistic approach. I just got a '14 Limited with a 3" lift and 34's. It has 140k miles on it and drives like new - no rattles, no odd handling characteristics, it's just quiet, tough, and dependable.
The last thing I want is touch screen controlled environmental controls and radio. Loose your unit and you have nothing, please keep knobs and buttons! I really dig the old school the tundra has!
Updated interior would absolutely do nothing for the performance of the truck. Towing hauling and 4wd for challenging roads. What's the big deal? It's fine
This is a great review! I totally agree with everything said! I love toyota too for their reliabilty and not being very cheap when it come to material used so it lasts!
No problemo, use cups that fit.....Keep a couple of 'em in the huge center console.....If the drink you bought doesn't fit holder, pour it into your cup that fits.....Why am I even telling anybody about this.....No-brainer....
I have had so many problems come teatime. I can put the petit fours and biscuits on the console, but it doesn’t accommodate my tea service. What are we, animals?
All the other brands inflate their mileage numbers. My buddy's ecoboost 3.5 is getting 13mpg around town, same as my 1794 crew max 4x4. All factory lockers I've experienced are pretty much for show lockers. I've used them, and E lockers don't have great functionality . There is a reason Toyota is the most reliable.
This was awesome as I'm planning out the purchase of my next truck. It's really interesting your discussion about the fuel economy. The guy over at Tacoma Beast did a 500mile trip on the Pony Express. I think he said his Taco averaged 12mpg; even with extra cans he almost ran out of gas. My '97 Dodge averages about 12...maybe 15 on a flat freeway trip. And it doesn't seem to matter if I'm solo or have my boy, another dad, his kiddo and camping gear. Also, when drilling holes in aluminum...you do have to worry about oxidation/corrosion. Be particularly mindful if you are using steel or stainless steel bolts and washers on your aluminum rack. Then you will have dissimilar metals and resulting in galvanic corrosion. This will cause the aluminum to corrode pretty quick where the steel/stainless touches, especially in rainy environments. To reduce galvanic corrosion, paint the bare aluminum hole with some paint. In addition you can use some kind of plastic washer/insert (like a nylon shoulder washer) that will make sure that the steel hardware doesn't touch the aluminum. Definitely...never (if you can avoid it in any way) thread a hole and put a bolt of a different material in it (plastics excluded of course). Happy B-day. Oh, and thanks for making me doubt my original plan to buy a Tacoma DCLB. Now I'm back looking at a full size Tundra to replace my full size dodge.
Thanks for the info... obviously I don't work with Aluminum enough... that was super helpful. I'll try to get this into a future video to make sure I am steering people the right direction. On the MPG... yeah that Pony Express trip was a perfect example of how the Tacoma and Tundra are basically the same once under load. Good luck with your truck shopping.
Only thing I need on my Tank Tundra is a 6.7 L diesel engine and manual transmission. Everything else is like asking for nail polish when you work construction.
I agree about the mpg - 99 LEXUS LX470 loaded or empty: 13MPG / I had a 17 Tacoma 4wd loaded up with BFG KO2, bed rack, camping gear, roof rack: avg. 12-14mpg and the stupid transmission hunted for gears all the time and struggled up the slightest hill. I sold the Tacoma and still have the LX470 V8 with less HP than the Tacoma yet has more low end torque and rarely has to downshift on a hill. 292K and still runs like new!
I sold my Wrangler JKU which was a full overland build, because we wanted a vehicle we could tow a 4500 lbs. trailer behind. I chose a 2017 Tundra TRD Off-Road 4WD Extra Cab, and I love it!!!! I have already done a spacer lift (for now) 33' KO2's, Baja design ditch lights, and rack system on my shell. I was able to sell my RTT and can now just sleep in the camper. I haven't and won't do as technical of trails as I did with my Wrangler, but in watching your videos I can see it'll do what I need it to do, get me to some remote campsites and away from people! Thanks for the inspiration.
As a tundra owner for a few years I wish they made the crewmax with under seat storage and a 6.5ft bed. I personally like the simplicity of the interior, I just wish they added a few modern conveniences like more USB ports, some USB-C fast chargers, and a larger display. I prefer not to load up the car with features that will just break and cost a lot to fix and are not that useful. I don’t do much off roading or over landing but I work a lot with my truck and it never lets me down.
I agree with basically everything you said here... The lack of under seat storage is annoying because it seems like it would be so easy to pull off. Have you seen those plastic inserts you can add if you cut out the foam?
@@OutdoorAuto I have the double cab off road edition which comes with under seat storage. I kept debating between the crewmax and double cab but the 6.5ft bed was/is a big deal for me because I haul lumber and other construction material on a fairly regular basis and that extra foot makes a big difference. The under seat storage is also a big deal for me because it allows me to keep my basic tools stowed away without filling up my cabin. The 6.5ft bed also allows me to put a mattress in the bed if/when I take the truck on the road for a few weeks. at 5.5ft I could only fit crunched up and uncomfortable (but honestly that was a second thought not a serious consideration) I feel like they left out some other features in the double cab version for no good reason. No cooled/vented seats in any trim, and no sunroof in any trim. I have the limited and was disappointed that I could not get those features from the factory. At the end of the day those features are not deal breakers but I felt like they left them out for people who use the truck for work without any good justification. I will also add that the cooled/vented seats are not as needed as I expected for some reason I don't get sweaty in my leather seats even in the summer. In my other cars I have always been glued to the leather after a short drive.
Love my basic truck that I can rely on! You are spot on about adding a few more cup holders in the back and a couple USB ports. Also the mpg on my Frontier Pro-4X is not that much better, I will take the power over getting a couple mpg better!
Happy birthday! I love your content. I also have a 2019 tundra and I agree with what you said. In addition to what you mentioned on your dislikes, I would add that I hate how low the payload ratings are and I really hate how there aren’t predrilled holes for a roof.
Enthusiastic new subscriber here. Thank you for your videos! I’ve been a dormant off road-er since regretfully selling my lightly mod’ed 2nd gen TRD Tacoma 10 yrs ago and am about to pull the trigger on a new Tacoma TRD Off Road and found you while TH-cam researching Overlanding builds. Very much appreciate your detailed videos and realistic approach to mod’s. Nearly every popular channel seems to showcase these over the top mod’s that would cost $25k and max out or exceed payload capacity. I’ve already watched a few of your videos, planning on referring to you for more advice. Thank you and happy belated
It takes just a few screws to get the grill off, that’s how I get to the winch on my ADD. Great video, thanks for the Tundra content. Can’t wait to see more on the new one!
Happy birthday Nathan! I’ve got a 2019 Ram that I’m slowly but surely getting built up for overlanding. Recently added the Mopar lift and some 35s and it’s looking good. Doesn’t come with the same reputation for reliability as Toyota, but Ram seems to have brought their A-game with the 5th gens... and knock on wood, I’m at 27k miles without a single hiccup. The biggest disappointment for the Rams is the lack of aftermarket support, especially with niche items like lockers. Overlanding wasn’t on my radar when I bought the truck and I just went with the cheapest one on the lot that met my bottom line (4wd and the Hemi). I’m starting to regret it because there isn’t a single aftermarket locker available for the Rams! My last hope is seeing if there’s a dealer who can hook me up with the OEM locker... I’m in Ohio and unfortunately, it’s a beautiful state but there isn’t much room for overlanding anywhere near here. I’d like to take my truck out to the Rockys (like Idaho, Wyoming or Montana) as early as this summer but I don’t even know where to begin. Could you give me some advice, or maybe make a video about trip planning? The usual spiel I hear is to “just get out there” but when I’m at least a couple days’ drive from anywhere I want to go, that isn’t really an option. I see videos on your channel and others of Jeeps and trucks rolling through gorgeous valleys with the mountains in the backdrop, fording shallow streams and pitching camp next to beautiful blue lakes. I know immediately that’s the kind of place I want to escape to... maybe you can give me some destination pointers.
I keep hearing that Dodge is doing a lot right, right now... but you are right... that doesn't help with aftermarket immediately... good luck. As far as coming out West... Just DM me on Instagram... I am more than willing to hope on the phone and help trip plan... definitely come to Idaho... we can take you to some incredible places. But you are right... I need to do a video on trip planning.
@@OutdoorAuto Thank you! I honestly might have to re-download Instagram just for that purpose haha. It’s really refreshing to see a TH-camr not only making super quality videos, but responding to every comment and even willing to go the extra mile to help a subscriber. Keep doing what you’re doing, I hope your channel blows up!
I'm 3 years late to this video. Seeing this video is good timing for me in 2024. I'm going to look at a 2019 Tundra Limited this weekend. The info you provided was perfect, thank you!!
Totally agree with you on wanting Toyota in general to upgrade some of the interior conveniences to be on par with some of the other manufacturers, but yes, Toyota builds their trucks to last. So, I can give up some comfort to keep reliability. I love my Tacoma even without some of the tech features some others have.
@@OutdoorAuto Also...Happy Birthday! I ordered my UpTop Overland bed rack and roof rack recently for my Tacoma...now it's just the waiting game to get them delivered. I went with UpTop because the are aluminum, built pretty strong and look good. Hope you like yours when you get them in!
Loved this vid, a lot of thought went into it. And loved the footage as well showing you really USING your rig! It was funny to hear a few comments about the Raptor.. I'm a big Toyota fanboy that through an offer I couldn't refuse ended up in a Raptor. The interior comments are spot on. Driving a Tundra is like driving a brand new 15 year old vehicle. But you know 15 years from now everything will probably still work and look much like it does when you bought it. You mentioned the whole price and modded vs stock thing. But you didn't talk the upside of the raptor which is a VERY capable stock suspension, 35's stock, more power stock, more 4x4 modes (4auto is awesome in the snow!), factory locker, factory torsen front diff, 19MPG freeway. Factory warranty on all of it. It's a very good starting point. Can you build something 'better' for the same budget? Sure, but your example of needing to find someone that does a good install on the BP1's so they don't leak illustrates the tradeoffs. And if one of your modded items has issues will they be open on the weekend? Will they honor their warranty? How long will they take to get parts to you and will it ruin your trip? VS driving to the nearby ford dealership and get whatever it is sorted. No doubt the Tundra's drivetrain will last longer, probably with less to worry about. But I have similar miles on the raptor to your Tundra now and zero issue period. No interior wear, no drivetrain stuff, no nothing. But you'd expect that with any relatively new vehicle in the 20k-30k miles range.
I did the opposite. I traded my Raptor for a TRD Tundra Pro. 8500 miles in a year, 2 major warranty repairs later. I never seen 19 mpg, 16 average was my norm, but with 91 octane, so about the same cost per mile. Power, no question the Raptor is awsome, 35s stock, and great tires too, wins there. Tech, yep, has it, no doubt, but simplistic goes a long way and 25k cheaper. Enjoy your truck, it is a good one.
Man, I have reached the point that when your videos post I grab my pen and notebook. You are teaching me so much. You make it look easy, but you must spend hours to get the finished product. Thanks...
Thanks for the feedback... When you make these videos it takes like 10 - 20 hours each one... then you blast it out to the world and sometimes its hard to tell if it is helping anyone. Thanks for watching... I'll try to keep getting good videos out.
Lol, your seatbelt!! Love the video! I bought my 2021 SR5 4x4 today❤️!! Thanks for all the info and look forward to seeing all your vids! I’m so ready to start modifying my Tundra! Happy belated Birthday!! 😂
Started with a 1989 4Runner (fire engine red, manual trans, 4X4.....LUVVED IT!!).....Dementia driver pulled out in front of me--totaled my baby after 200K miles in 2007.....Got '07 pre-runner 2WD Taco.....Last week (after 109K mi), traded in Taco for used 2019 Tundra Platinum--freakin' HUGE!!...Probably overpaid.....Never had any issues with first two Toyota twucks; don't expect any problems with "new-to-me" Tundra.... Am aware of so called "drawbacks" of Tundras......Not drawbacks to me at all--right up my alley.....Don't care about mileage, since I'm downscaling from waterfront home to a "new" tow twuck and 19' travel trailer for nomad life.....Money not the issue, just needed a change....Used to have an adventurous life with no money in my wild, insane youth....Gonna hit the road in comfort with a gooood tow twuck....
You need those fancy interiors in the other brands to keep you busy while you wait for the tow truck. A month after you purchase your new vehicle all you care about is a comfy seat, decent stereo and a reliable experience. Toyota nails it for the long run.
Nate, I really think you do a great job with all your points and really enjoy your videos. Keep up the awesome work and thank you for taking the time to do these
Thanks for watching... I definitely dont want 25... I'll settle for 4 functional cupholders... literally all they need to do is copy the ones in the 4Runner.
My Power Wagon has 10 cup holders just up front and on long trips or camping, every single one gets used; water, coffee, keys, spit cups, phones, change.
Definitely agree on the cup holder thing. It’s one of my biggest gripes with my 2020 trd pro. You can’t even fit a regular Gatorade bottle in them. My f150 held them fine. Sounds like a small complaint, but it’s really annoying
The GX460 is getting more and more popular as an Overland platform... pretty cool to see the aftermarket starting to support it. I always like the Prado... so nice to see basically the same platform taking off in the US.
I wish more Vehicles would go with the Basic, Utilitarian, solid reliability interior setups. In the end this is what makes a vehicle drive-able for years. Durability and Reliability matters more to me.
they don’t quit and they hold their value very well. i don’t care about the mileage because the engine and 4.30 rear end pull like a champ. i had a 2012 SR-5 which i loved and still miss, but i traded it for a car for my daughter. i just bought a 2021 CrewMax Limited and am very happy. I had a 2019 F-250 SuperDuty Lariat which was great except for how the ride would beat you up and the dang death wobble on bad pavement. i like all the bells and whistles, but i’m much happier back in a tundra. the heated seats are nice right now too. also i’m fine with the 5.5’ bed. i just need to fit a pallet in the back end some days for hauling heavy parts from my foundry, and of course all the honey do jobs. planning on keeping it for about 8-10 years. then who the heck knows what will be out there then???
I went from a 2010 Tundra to a 2017 Tundra and find it frustrating how many interior things they got rid of - rear door storage, upper glove box, and even the small front door storage cubbies - all gone in the 2017. I will give them credit for adding a trailer brake controller and making the backup camera standard. How are your cam seals? Mine seem to be ok, but I know it has been an issue with Tundras these days.
I miss the upper glove box.. that was awesome. I have had no issue with Cam Seals. I will let you know if that creeps in. It will be interesting to see what they do in 2022.
AKgrowngal you’re spot on. I also just recently went from a 2011 to my 2017 and find myself missing my old rig a lot. I’d swap the interior in a heartbeat if I could
Still rocking my 2009, coming up on 200k. I’m a Contractor so the truck has been used heavily . It’s held up, and from time to time we still use it to go on ski trips when there is more than a couple of inches of snow. It’s been good. I wouldn’t go with a new Tacoma. My wife’s Highlander has the same engine and it just doesn’t have nearly enough low end torque. Tundra pulls hard from the rip. The Highlander/Tacoma have to be revved out to get full power. My buddy had a 14’ taco (or whatever the last year of the 4.0) and it has so much better low end. I can say I’m excited for the tundra refresh. People worry about reliability on potential turbo engines. I think the reason it has taken yota forever to update the truck is because the wanna get it right. If you guys remember when the gen 2 came out in 07’. It was light years ahead of competition. In fact it still has some of the best specs you can get from a base engine. I’ll keep mine until the refresh has a couple of years to work the kinks out. May just buy the new tundra and continue driving my current one as a work truck. All in all, great trucks
There is a lot of talk about the Tundra interior "falling behind". The real question, one might want to ask: What are you using your truck for. My family has a large ranch here in the Texas Pan Handle and we have a Tundra as a ranch truck (as well as several Fords and an older Dodge, pre-Ram). The Tundra has the most functional interior. The knobs and switches can be utilized with gloves on. The seats have proven to be very durable. In many ways, unless you do not actually utilize your truck, because you might live in the suburbs and think 20 or 22 inch, low profile tires are great, possibly never shifted into 4-wheel drive, then all the interior nitpicking is understandable. If you actually utilize the truck for its design purpose, then the Tundra interior shines in so many ways. What I wish (as I am the girl that got the damn thing stuck in a pasture before), is that it would have a true locking differential like both of our Fords. When the time comes to replace the Fords and the Dodge, we will probably buy another Tundra. Unless, we have to replace the heavy-duty one that pulls the cattle trailer, which the Tundra cannot.
Great editing man, I really enjoyed all your points. People need to realize that everyone has a different taste and I think all issues need to be addressed whether if they agree or not.
Thanks... Yeah I agree... I get that a lot of people think I'm a pansy for complaining about cup holders...etc. But the thing for me is I really am a Toyota guy... as they update the Tundra next year... I don't need what they did to the Dodges and everything... I just want it to stay competitive. My bet is that we get "just enough" to be happy... here is hopping the new power platform doesn't have any big kinks to work out.
To each its own. I dont drink and drive so the cup holder is not that important to me. I dont get why alot of people complain about the interior small price to pay for reliability i would say. I just sold my 2004 tacoma original owner 16 yrs no mechanical issues. 280k miles
Happy Birthday! Just installed my new UpTop Overland rack on my Tundra. Well made easy to install. Applied outward pressure when tightening the last 6 bolts on each crossbar, seated the supports helped make it very solid.
Good evening there bud 👍 I have a 2021 Tundra , TRD Off Road 4x4 SR5 and love it . You conveyed some excellent information for us , thank you 🙏. Great video
I totally agree with you on the bumper. I want a full brush guard on a full replacement bumper for the same reason. Only problem is not very many of them are very high clearance and they look ugly. I think I’m going to have to get a high clearance one and Fab up my own tube work.
Happy Bday Nate, great video! I’ll foot stomp the challenge with the rear suspension. I destroyed the Icon springs I bought first and went OME after that and in 3 years those are now done and I’m moving to custom Deavers. I have air bags as well and the product you’re referencing for detaching the bags from the axle are sometimes called “cups.” Checkout Daystar brand. On the Expedition One bumper I’ll add they need to redesign the swing arm retention pins and add a swing stop beyond that in case catch pins slip. Ask me how I have a huge dent in the rear fender panel 😂. Great video!
Good call out on the pins on the Expedition-One.. I actually talked though that on my Truck walk around video... I have snapped those tiny bolts a couple times. My "new" projects has custom Deaver springs and they are impressive... but I would say that they are overkill for a lot of new overlanders. Obviously it always comes down to actual use and abuse... sounds like you may do the kind of trips I do... 😂 - You will probably like the new project... I should have some stuff out in the next two weeks.
For me, as long as tundras stay the same"boring" I'll keep buying. Less electronics means less issues to deal with. I bought engine and transmission not fancy. A friend of mine that just bought a raptor said he bought it for the looks. Me on the other side what ever extra tech I need I'll I stall and replace if it breaks. Toyota please stay same. I will never understand why people complain do much, why not just purchase a ford, chevrolet or dodge that has everything you want. Very nice video, got a lot of useful information. Just subscribed.
Great review. I just bought a 2021 Tundra and I don't think your first "what I don't like" is that big of a deal. First, IT'S A TRUCK. If I wanted beautiful interiors I would buy a Mercedes or Audi. My other vehicles have been BMWs that I've been driving for 20 years and although their interiors have all the bells and whistles they also BREAK. The other point I wanted to make was when I compared the Tundra to the RAM 1500 the RAM had the cool 12 center screen. Big deal. Instead of displaying my Sirius XM channel on 12 inches it displays on 8 inches in the Tundra.. I also don't see what the big deal is with the instrument cluster. The new F150 has the LED cluster that shows the tack and the speed. My Tundra does not have the digital instrument cluster display but somehow I can still tell what speed I'm going down the highway.
I agree... OBVIOUSLY... that is why I own two Tundras... but the video was a review on the Tundra... not a WHY I love my Tundra video. Just trying to be objective.
Happy Birthday man! Keep up the great work! The content is very interesting (even for us non-Toyota guys). These videos/editing are put together very well.
@@OutdoorAuto Sorry it took a minute to reply, I'm here in Georgia and had to tuck the kiddos in. Speaking of kids... if Peter McKinnon and Jeff from Expedition Overland had a kid- I think you might would be him! Seriously though, the jump cuts/back lighting/audio/different angles/B-roll are all top notch. It along with your delivery is what made me subscribe as much as the content. I'm currently in a 2017 Ram Power Wagon w/Ram Box on 35's/ 4 Front runner load bars connected to the same cargo mngmt. system as the Tundra/ hold up a Roam 4 person tent. Built a DIY cargo slide last year to handle table/chairs/wood/propane. Wish list mods: White Knuckle sliders, diamond back tonnue, clamshell tent (for time) expedition one rear bumper, more whiskey...
I don't know what you are driving but my 2014 Tundra has two cup holders AND two 12v USB plugs in the rear seat.....along with two 12v DC 'lighter' plugs. I didn't even ask for them. I had to add running boards but that was it. It's a base model 2014 Tundra with a 4.6.
That's one of my complaints about my 2020 Tacoma. There are 11 cup holders in the truck and ZERO of them hold my water bottle which is relatively small!
Happy Birthday! Great video. I’ve been wringing my hands about switching from my 4Runner to a Tundra. Mostly for power while towing the trailer. Even with regear the 4Runner just lacks the power I’d like. But I do love my 4Runner and the Tundra plus Patriot would be quite long. Decisions...
Yup... it would be longer for sure. It would be a huge improvement in power though. I never even towed with my 4Runner and it still felt under powered. I guess it really comes down to how tight of trails/ extreme trails you run... then again... if you have a trailer at all... that is probably already decided for you. 🤷♂️
@@OutdoorAuto Arizona Tundras Group #AZTG found on FB... I'm coming off a 2019 RAM Rebel, yes great interior but I honestly don't miss much about it other then the back seat cup holders lol, 3 kiddos I need cup holders grrr otherwise my VOODOO Blue 2019 TRD Pro Tundra is great!
I say you can either have awesome interior..or..... I'll stick with the awesome Powertrain that goes forever... Toyota Tundra one badass truck on planet Earth... been in love with Japanese technology.
I pretty much agree... I mean the had cup holders figured out and then literally changed them and made them worse... so I think they can fix simple stuff like that... but I agree... I dont need a spacestation... but lets get some proven, slightly behind the times, tech updates... AND LOCKERS
I bet that it makes it in the Next Gen... there is no way Toyota hasn't heard this load and clear and with the popularity of "Overlanding" exploding and new Jeeps and Broncos, Raptors... they have to beef up the TRD package for the Tundra.
Would love to buy the Tundra, but payload is so weak it just will not work for me...And since Toyota likes to talk up it's off road ability for the Tundra, it wouldn't kill ya Toyo to put in a rear locker! Do that, I'm all in on the great Tundra!
I really like my Tacoma interior simple so I don’t baby it during some hard adventures, BUT a drivers seat with a built in hand rest would be amazing!!! It’ll fix my issue with having my seat mostly forward.
@@OutdoorAuto absolutely i will buy another one if I ever have to but I am excited to see what powertrain they come up with since the rumor is the 5.7 is no longer gonna be under the hood
Enjoying your content and channel. I'm moving to Boise in a few months so looking forward to seeing some local Idaho trail videos. Then again maybe not, can't let the world know :D
As always, your reviews are incredibly helpful. Completely agree with your front bumper comments. Look at C4 Fabrication. They have some awesome products. Looking forward to your old man the EMU suspension review as well. Thanks for all of your good work. Merry Christmas.
Funny you say that... C4 is what I am going with. I will work on getting the OME review out as fast as I can... there is an issue with install that can cause big issues... but the suspension itself is incredible for the price.
@@OutdoorAuto I am heading out to Bullhide 4 x 4 in Fort Collins for a build on my 2018 tundra. Doing the OME suspension etc. I decided on the C4 front bumper matched well to a ComeUp winch. I agree, seeing the winch is a very important part of using that tool. Love the Factor 55 equipment as well. Off to the mountains !! ⛰😎
I use the bed of my 2019 Tundra to store 55 gallons of gas so I can go around the block. 11MPG really! The only thing worse could be getting hit with a gas guzzler tax.
If I had to bet on the first thing I would break... I gotta say a seatbelt would not have been high on the list... If I avg one issue like that a year for the next 5 years... I'll take it.
Happy Birthday man! Appreciate the content and tips. Do you know of any companies that have winch visibility for Tacoma’s? I have an 06 that I’m hoping to turn into a nice rig but I didn’t even think of wanting to see the winch
It’s funny and all relative I guess. I have a ‘21 Tundra Platinum w/ 40K miles on it and absolutely love everything about it, interior is beautiful in its functionality & simplicity. The V8 w/ a 38 gal tank, the great turning radius, towing capability, the quality and reliability. Can’t get enough of it! As far as the lockers, good luck w/ that on the 3rd gen…3 years-in, they still don’t have tow hooks. Appealing to soccer moms out there, wonderful grocery-getters, what a dissapointment all the way around. Somehow Toyota abandoned their core competency w/ this 3rd gen.
Love the cup holders in my 2020 4Runner. They all have the little rubber thing that can stay or come out. Some cups work with the rubber in. Yeti coffee my works with rubber out. My 40 Oz HydroFlask fits in one with the rubber out. That’s weird about Tundra as I love the simplicity and a adaptability of them in my Runner.
Very thorough video and hit all the points that I’ve felt needed to be addressed on the aging platform. But either way, since it has aged well and performed extremely well over the years, it is a top choice for me. I’m looking for my next addition to my garage for a flatbed build and it’s hard to pick even a Power Wagon. Still waiting to drive the work truck version of the 2020+ PW. Maybe that will sway me over a lightly used Limited Tundra. As always, thank you for the content 👏
Narrow trails can be another drawback to a full-size truck. I have put some “pinstripes” on my Colorado on some of the narrow forest service roads here in Virginia.
@@12scars Funny you mentioned Bald Mountain. I was thinking about that trail when I was mentioning "pinstripes". Definitely got some "pinstripes" on my Colorado from that trail. All of the Mountain Laurel is tough on the paint.
I agree on the locker, for both the Tundra and Sequoia. Also, the payload capacity on the Tundra is embarrassingly low compared to the F150 with the EcoBoost.
Happy Birthday! You might have talked me out of getting that ADD bumper so keep us posted on what you go with including which winch. Seems like with the ADD bumper you are limited to only a couple winches because of cavity space but maybe that's true with any bumper? Also, I will be towing with my Tundra at times so I'm considering the detached airbags you mentioned. Wondering though with the ICON adjustable shocks if you think you can achieve a desirable ride quality off road by dialing to a softer setting and the opposite for towing?
ICON has some great systems... depends on what stage you go with but, Yes, you can definitely get there with them. I am going with the C4 hybrid bumper... it is a mix of a Baja style Tube bumper but beefed up to handle Overland. The ADD is a really great bumper if you aren't somebody that counts on your winch for really critical recoveries on a regular basis. I think the detachable airbag is the ultimate solution for max offroad capability but also being able to tow when you need to.
I’m not even an overlander, just wanted to see what the issues are. Water bottle holders (big 40oz ones like Hydroflask) don’t fit. Abs seatbelt ratchet. Pretty good considering you use the truck to the fullest
Not sure if someone has already commented on this but I guess your aware that Tundra is getting a complete ground up redesign going on sale this fall. One can only assume it will be very modern to compete with the big three. I know GM is replacing their horrible interiors for 2022 model year. I agree totally about Toyota and durability and focusing on it but you can have modern, and durable together. I owned 2007 Crewmax for 5 years and really liked it but it really did fall behind the times and competition. I really anticipating the new redesigned Tundra.
I am pretty excited to see what they do... Always a little worried about new engines and transmissions... but Toyota doesn't get that stuff wrong very often. I know a lot of people hate losing the V8 but with all the advancements out there... I could see it being a good thing. I just hope they ad the locker option.
I put a 35x12.5 under my bed on a 2nd gen, I just had to cut off the ears that hold the stock tire in place closer to the cab. Double cab w 6.5’ bed, not sure if that is the difference?
Really appreciate the candid review. It matches my experience with my 2018 cement limited tundra! Really love the v8. By putting 35s on yours, did you feel the need to regear? I was considering upgrading my stock 32” tires to only 33” based on my goal of light overlanding, but you’ve got me reconsidering.
35's don't need a regear at all... and I'm not just saying that... the V8 and 4:30 gears have no issue pushing 35's... I would draw the line at 37's for regearing... With the new build project... it has 37's and I will have some videos about that soon.
@@OutdoorAuto Awesome. Is the new build project on the existing Tundra or a different vehicle? Can't wait! I'm also looking to upgrade the suspension, but feel the BP51 is out of my price range and beyond what I need for forest service roads and very light rock crawling. Do you have a suggestion for a suspension between the stock Bilsteins and the OME suspension you're running, in terms of both price and capability?
-i have the ome kit (not the bp51) with the add a leaf in the new leaf packs -im going with that same size offset in 35s. i have 295s with stock wheels and spacers -went with a p&p sliders that are worth every dollar and rear duel swing out bumper and arb front bumper that i love. it has easy access to the winch too . -front runner roof rack i would redo to something else. every thing is stupid expensive and the quality is not to par. customer support is very poor too -removing the front sway bar is awesome and try it if you already have not already. rides smoother of road
Merci! 19:30 Hi, I do overland with a full seize truck to and I tow a lot to. Is it possible to have a link for the specific airbag system you talking about. I don’t want to last any travel.
here is a link - suspensionconnection.com/2007-2021-toyota-tundra-4x4-and-2wd-ride-rite-air-bag-helper-springs-rear?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw6auyBhDzARIsALIo6v9SK9dZ3WQ6B_Bu1Jjs19793d_nAbTuPIdpB0DXwERteZQVya4KPD8aAil8EALw_wcB&gyear=2016 You actually get the AirBags, leveling kit with a compressor and bluetooth and the daystar cradles...
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Your not a fan or smart ! The TUNDRA IS BEST BUILT TRUCK IN THE WORLD
TOYOTA WILL NEVER CHANG IT ITS A BEAST
Are you living in a trailer ?
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I was dumb forgot the password. I would love any assistance you can give me!
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I bought the tundra just because it has less ,less means less can break, tundra hasn't changed because they don't need to ,it's rock solid. People only complain about small things ,but main things like reliability, power ,maintenance those are key factors.
Exact reason I just bought another Tundra... it is an amazing truck... doesn't mean that they can't improve a couple things here and there...but It is still the truck I go to.
It is funny how trucks have become luxury items instead of items for working class people. The funnier thing is that luxury vehicles are known to be unreliable and not very functional long term. I like function because it works over and over again.
You have a good looking truck that seems to perform quite well.
They buy interior that’s why they buy crap
@@five18audio and fancy tech/infotainment screens
The only 3 things that I want in a Tundra are a manual transmission, locking diffs, and a 6.5 foot bed with the crew max.
Horrible gas milage
@@yungzbuck3015 yeah that would be nice but to have the performance and reliability and great gas mileage is difficult. The smaller turbo engine with cylinder deactivation is not something that I want in a vehicle.
@Snake Plissken I know I’ve followed the depressing lazification of Americans in regards to vehicles closely. I don’t even care if it’s in a lower trim just give me a manual option. Almost all of the extras can be added later anyways.
@Snake Plissken I’m with you there. When I drive an automatic the vehicle is constantly hunting for gears. I often hit the gas expecting more power and then the car drops two gears a second before I’m at the speed I want to go. Automatics really confuse me.
@Snake Plissken fyi you could buy an 07 Chevy 1500 with the 4.8 v8 and a manual. Chevy offered a few sporty looking standard cabs with that setup. It was more of a dealer to dealer thing though. One of them was a Nascar theme.
I love the Tundra's minimalistic approach. I just got a '14 Limited with a 3" lift and 34's. It has 140k miles on it and drives like new - no rattles, no odd handling characteristics, it's just quiet, tough, and dependable.
The simplistic interior is partially what sold me on the Tundra. It's a TRUCK!
The last thing I want is touch screen controlled environmental controls and radio. Loose your unit and you have nothing, please keep knobs and buttons! I really dig the old school the tundra has!
I actually agree with this! They designed it to work with work gloves on... I like that aspect of the interior.
For the Lexus LS430 it was $4k to fix the touch screen, so I agree with you on that.
Updated interior would absolutely do nothing for the performance of the truck. Towing hauling and 4wd for challenging roads. What's the big deal? It's fine
Never had a doubt about my tundra. Love the truck and couldn’t be happier with mine.
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Happy Birthday Nathan, love your videos keep up the great content!!
Happy birthday
This is a great review! I totally agree with everything said! I love toyota too for their reliabilty and not being very cheap when it come to material used so it lasts!
Agreed big time on the locker!
It really is a weird thing that an E-locker didn't make the cut.
Does Toyota put a posi trac in the rear?
My Tundra cup holders work fine...are you using a tea cup?
Yeah my cup holders work 100% of the time
No problemo, use cups that fit.....Keep a couple of 'em in the huge center console.....If the drink you bought doesn't fit holder, pour it into your cup that fits.....Why am I even telling anybody about this.....No-brainer....
I have had so many problems come teatime. I can put the petit fours and biscuits on the console, but it doesn’t accommodate my tea service. What are we, animals?
The cup holders are one of the things I loved about my Tundra
All the other brands inflate their mileage numbers. My buddy's ecoboost 3.5 is getting 13mpg around town, same as my 1794 crew max 4x4.
All factory lockers I've experienced are pretty much for show lockers. I've used them, and E lockers don't have great functionality . There is a reason Toyota is the most reliable.
This was awesome as I'm planning out the purchase of my next truck. It's really interesting your discussion about the fuel economy. The guy over at Tacoma Beast did a 500mile trip on the Pony Express. I think he said his Taco averaged 12mpg; even with extra cans he almost ran out of gas. My '97 Dodge averages about 12...maybe 15 on a flat freeway trip. And it doesn't seem to matter if I'm solo or have my boy, another dad, his kiddo and camping gear.
Also, when drilling holes in aluminum...you do have to worry about oxidation/corrosion. Be particularly mindful if you are using steel or stainless steel bolts and washers on your aluminum rack. Then you will have dissimilar metals and resulting in galvanic corrosion. This will cause the aluminum to corrode pretty quick where the steel/stainless touches, especially in rainy environments. To reduce galvanic corrosion, paint the bare aluminum hole with some paint. In addition you can use some kind of plastic washer/insert (like a nylon shoulder washer) that will make sure that the steel hardware doesn't touch the aluminum. Definitely...never (if you can avoid it in any way) thread a hole and put a bolt of a different material in it (plastics excluded of course).
Happy B-day. Oh, and thanks for making me doubt my original plan to buy a Tacoma DCLB. Now I'm back looking at a full size Tundra to replace my full size dodge.
Thanks for the info... obviously I don't work with Aluminum enough... that was super helpful. I'll try to get this into a future video to make sure I am steering people the right direction. On the MPG... yeah that Pony Express trip was a perfect example of how the Tacoma and Tundra are basically the same once under load. Good luck with your truck shopping.
Only thing I need on my Tank Tundra is a 6.7 L diesel engine and manual transmission. Everything else is like asking for nail polish when you work construction.
I agree about the mpg - 99 LEXUS LX470 loaded or empty: 13MPG / I had a 17 Tacoma 4wd loaded up with BFG KO2, bed rack, camping gear, roof rack: avg. 12-14mpg and the stupid transmission hunted for gears all the time and struggled up the slightest hill. I sold the Tacoma and still have the LX470 V8 with less HP than the Tacoma yet has more low end torque and rarely has to downshift on a hill. 292K and still runs like new!
There is definitely a Weight to Power ratio that gets overlooked...
We have the same truck trim level and all 4x4 package and all and same color, the "dated" look, It just works and that's what I like about it
I sold my Wrangler JKU which was a full overland build, because we wanted a vehicle we could tow a 4500 lbs. trailer behind. I chose a 2017 Tundra TRD Off-Road 4WD Extra Cab, and I love it!!!! I have already done a spacer lift (for now) 33' KO2's, Baja design ditch lights, and rack system on my shell. I was able to sell my RTT and can now just sleep in the camper. I haven't and won't do as technical of trails as I did with my Wrangler, but in watching your videos I can see it'll do what I need it to do, get me to some remote campsites and away from people! Thanks for the inspiration.
Well if your biggest issue is cup holders.. I think Toyota is doing pretty well.
I agree... that was kinda the point of the video... killer trucks... that’s why I have two
I run a full-size Titan and I love it, power, payload and overall room can’t be matched in a midsized truck or suv.
As a tundra owner for a few years I wish they made the crewmax with under seat storage and a 6.5ft bed. I personally like the simplicity of the interior, I just wish they added a few modern conveniences like more USB ports, some USB-C fast chargers, and a larger display. I prefer not to load up the car with features that will just break and cost a lot to fix and are not that useful. I don’t do much off roading or over landing but I work a lot with my truck and it never lets me down.
I agree with basically everything you said here... The lack of under seat storage is annoying because it seems like it would be so easy to pull off. Have you seen those plastic inserts you can add if you cut out the foam?
@@OutdoorAuto I have the double cab off road edition which comes with under seat storage. I kept debating between the crewmax and double cab but the 6.5ft bed was/is a big deal for me because I haul lumber and other construction material on a fairly regular basis and that extra foot makes a big difference. The under seat storage is also a big deal for me because it allows me to keep my basic tools stowed away without filling up my cabin. The 6.5ft bed also allows me to put a mattress in the bed if/when I take the truck on the road for a few weeks. at 5.5ft I could only fit crunched up and uncomfortable (but honestly that was a second thought not a serious consideration)
I feel like they left out some other features in the double cab version for no good reason. No cooled/vented seats in any trim, and no sunroof in any trim. I have the limited and was disappointed that I could not get those features from the factory. At the end of the day those features are not deal breakers but I felt like they left them out for people who use the truck for work without any good justification. I will also add that the cooled/vented seats are not as needed as I expected for some reason I don't get sweaty in my leather seats even in the summer. In my other cars I have always been glued to the leather after a short drive.
Love my basic truck that I can rely on!
You are spot on about adding a few more cup holders in the back and a couple USB ports.
Also the mpg on my Frontier Pro-4X is not that much better, I will take the power over getting a couple mpg better!
Happy Birthday man! You cleared all my doubts about my “Tacoma vs Tundra” question from the other day. Can’t wait to buy my Tundra now
They really are great trucks... I don't regret getting it at all. Good luck on your truck.
Wait for the new redesign
Happy birthday! I love your content. I also have a 2019 tundra and I agree with what you said. In addition to what you mentioned on your dislikes, I would add that I hate how low the payload ratings are and I really hate how there aren’t predrilled holes for a roof.
Great point on the roof rack... without anything up there it is a bit scary installing a Rack and drilling if you have never done it before.
Enthusiastic new subscriber here. Thank you for your videos! I’ve been a dormant off road-er since regretfully selling my lightly mod’ed 2nd gen TRD Tacoma 10 yrs ago and am about to pull the trigger on a new Tacoma TRD Off Road and found you while TH-cam researching Overlanding builds.
Very much appreciate your detailed videos and realistic approach to mod’s. Nearly every popular channel seems to showcase these over the top mod’s that would cost $25k and max out or exceed payload capacity.
I’ve already watched a few of your videos, planning on referring to you for more advice. Thank you and happy belated
Thanks for watching John... Hopefully your "dormant" phase comes to an end soon.
It takes just a few screws to get the grill off, that’s how I get to the winch on my ADD. Great video, thanks for the Tundra content. Can’t wait to see more on the new one!
This is a good point... worst case it is totally doable to get to it.
Word! Found out about that little gem when I had to choose between a screw driver and a muddy back when I had to reach the free spool
Re-geared w/ nitro gears was amazing for me.
Rear TRD anti sway bar
Rear Summo springs under the leafs were amazing for towing
That is a great setup!
Happy birthday Nathan!
I’ve got a 2019 Ram that I’m slowly but surely getting built up for overlanding. Recently added the Mopar lift and some 35s and it’s looking good. Doesn’t come with the same reputation for reliability as Toyota, but Ram seems to have brought their A-game with the 5th gens... and knock on wood, I’m at 27k miles without a single hiccup. The biggest disappointment for the Rams is the lack of aftermarket support, especially with niche items like lockers. Overlanding wasn’t on my radar when I bought the truck and I just went with the cheapest one on the lot that met my bottom line (4wd and the Hemi). I’m starting to regret it because there isn’t a single aftermarket locker available for the Rams! My last hope is seeing if there’s a dealer who can hook me up with the OEM locker...
I’m in Ohio and unfortunately, it’s a beautiful state but there isn’t much room for overlanding anywhere near here. I’d like to take my truck out to the Rockys (like Idaho, Wyoming or Montana) as early as this summer but I don’t even know where to begin. Could you give me some advice, or maybe make a video about trip planning? The usual spiel I hear is to “just get out there” but when I’m at least a couple days’ drive from anywhere I want to go, that isn’t really an option. I see videos on your channel and others of Jeeps and trucks rolling through gorgeous valleys with the mountains in the backdrop, fording shallow streams and pitching camp next to beautiful blue lakes. I know immediately that’s the kind of place I want to escape to... maybe you can give me some destination pointers.
I keep hearing that Dodge is doing a lot right, right now... but you are right... that doesn't help with aftermarket immediately... good luck. As far as coming out West... Just DM me on Instagram... I am more than willing to hope on the phone and help trip plan... definitely come to Idaho... we can take you to some incredible places. But you are right... I need to do a video on trip planning.
@@OutdoorAuto Thank you! I honestly might have to re-download Instagram just for that purpose haha. It’s really refreshing to see a TH-camr not only making super quality videos, but responding to every comment and even willing to go the extra mile to help a subscriber. Keep doing what you’re doing, I hope your channel blows up!
I'm 3 years late to this video. Seeing this video is good timing for me in 2024. I'm going to look at a 2019 Tundra Limited this weekend. The info you provided was perfect, thank you!!
I love the V8 Tundras... I can't get aways from them... they are just too solid.
Totally agree with you on wanting Toyota in general to upgrade some of the interior conveniences to be on par with some of the other manufacturers, but yes, Toyota builds their trucks to last. So, I can give up some comfort to keep reliability. I love my Tacoma even without some of the tech features some others have.
Totally agree... I will take utilitarian design that doesn't fail over fancy stuff that breaks any day.
@@OutdoorAuto Also...Happy Birthday! I ordered my UpTop Overland bed rack and roof rack recently for my Tacoma...now it's just the waiting game to get them delivered. I went with UpTop because the are aluminum, built pretty strong and look good. Hope you like yours when you get them in!
I'm excited as well... playing the same waiting game as you.
Loved this vid, a lot of thought went into it. And loved the footage as well showing you really USING your rig!
It was funny to hear a few comments about the Raptor.. I'm a big Toyota fanboy that through an offer I couldn't refuse ended up in a Raptor. The interior comments are spot on. Driving a Tundra is like driving a brand new 15 year old vehicle. But you know 15 years from now everything will probably still work and look much like it does when you bought it. You mentioned the whole price and modded vs stock thing. But you didn't talk the upside of the raptor which is a VERY capable stock suspension, 35's stock, more power stock, more 4x4 modes (4auto is awesome in the snow!), factory locker, factory torsen front diff, 19MPG freeway. Factory warranty on all of it. It's a very good starting point. Can you build something 'better' for the same budget? Sure, but your example of needing to find someone that does a good install on the BP1's so they don't leak illustrates the tradeoffs. And if one of your modded items has issues will they be open on the weekend? Will they honor their warranty? How long will they take to get parts to you and will it ruin your trip? VS driving to the nearby ford dealership and get whatever it is sorted.
No doubt the Tundra's drivetrain will last longer, probably with less to worry about. But I have similar miles on the raptor to your Tundra now and zero issue period. No interior wear, no drivetrain stuff, no nothing. But you'd expect that with any relatively new vehicle in the 20k-30k miles range.
Great points on the Raptor and the Tundra... I appreciate the balanced feedback.
I did the opposite. I traded my Raptor for a TRD Tundra Pro. 8500 miles in a year, 2 major warranty repairs later. I never seen 19 mpg, 16 average was my norm, but with 91 octane, so about the same cost per mile. Power, no question the Raptor is awsome, 35s stock, and great tires too, wins there. Tech, yep, has it, no doubt, but simplistic goes a long way and 25k cheaper. Enjoy your truck, it is a good one.
I've owned 8 Tundras since 2006 my , just bought. 2020 Trd Pro ,great trucks , beats the rest
Bow are you liking the 2020 trd i am looking at a lunar trd pro coming from a f 250 diesel. Does the exhaust get annoying ?
why would you need so many?
Fake ass story
What Toyota has just works
Man, I have reached the point that when your videos post I grab my pen and notebook.
You are teaching me so much. You make it look easy, but you must spend hours to get the finished product. Thanks...
Thanks for the feedback... When you make these videos it takes like 10 - 20 hours each one... then you blast it out to the world and sometimes its hard to tell if it is helping anyone. Thanks for watching... I'll try to keep getting good videos out.
Lol, your seatbelt!! Love the video! I bought my 2021 SR5 4x4 today❤️!! Thanks for all the info and look forward to seeing all your vids!
I’m so ready to start modifying my Tundra! Happy belated Birthday!! 😂
Thanks for watching!
Started with a 1989 4Runner (fire engine red, manual trans, 4X4.....LUVVED IT!!).....Dementia driver pulled out in front of me--totaled my baby after 200K miles in 2007.....Got '07 pre-runner 2WD Taco.....Last week (after 109K mi), traded in Taco for used 2019 Tundra Platinum--freakin' HUGE!!...Probably overpaid.....Never had any issues with first two Toyota twucks; don't expect any problems with "new-to-me" Tundra....
Am aware of so called "drawbacks" of Tundras......Not drawbacks to me at all--right up my alley.....Don't care about mileage, since I'm downscaling from waterfront home to a "new" tow twuck and 19' travel trailer for nomad life.....Money not the issue, just needed a change....Used to have an adventurous life with no money in my wild, insane youth....Gonna hit the road in comfort with a gooood tow twuck....
You need those fancy interiors in the other brands to keep you busy while you wait for the tow truck. A month after you purchase your new vehicle all you care about is a comfy seat, decent stereo and a reliable experience. Toyota nails it for the long run.
I totally agree... Great trucks... thats why I own 3 Toyotas :)
Nate, I really think you do a great job with all your points and really enjoy your videos. Keep up the awesome work and thank you for taking the time to do these
Thanks for watching... every video is a lot of work... but it is really fun fir me.
@@OutdoorAuto BTW, Happy Birthday, I did the comment before getting to that part of the video
Second time watching this video. I always wondered what insane people wanted vehicles with 25 cup holders. Now I know who to thank.
Thanks for watching... I definitely dont want 25... I'll settle for 4 functional cupholders... literally all they need to do is copy the ones in the 4Runner.
My Power Wagon has 10 cup holders just up front and on long trips or camping, every single one gets used; water, coffee, keys, spit cups, phones, change.
Definitely agree on the cup holder thing. It’s one of my biggest gripes with my 2020 trd pro. You can’t even fit a regular Gatorade bottle in them. My f150 held them fine. Sounds like a small complaint, but it’s really annoying
True is super annoying
I overland a GX460, I learned a lot here👊🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
The GX460 is getting more and more popular as an Overland platform... pretty cool to see the aftermarket starting to support it. I always like the Prado... so nice to see basically the same platform taking off in the US.
GX470 here.
I wish more Vehicles would go with the Basic, Utilitarian, solid reliability interior setups. In the end this is what makes a vehicle drive-able for years. Durability and Reliability matters more to me.
Ultimately you are right, it’s why I keep buying Tundras.
they don’t quit and they hold their value very well. i don’t care about the mileage because the engine and 4.30 rear end pull like a champ. i had a 2012 SR-5 which i loved and still miss, but i traded it for a car for my daughter. i just bought a 2021 CrewMax Limited and am very happy. I had a 2019 F-250 SuperDuty Lariat which was great except for how the ride would beat you up and the dang death wobble on bad pavement. i like all the bells and whistles, but i’m much happier back in a tundra. the heated seats are nice right now too. also i’m fine with the 5.5’ bed. i just need to fit a pallet in the back end some days for hauling heavy parts from my foundry, and of course all the honey do jobs. planning on keeping it for about 8-10 years. then who the heck knows what will be out there then???
I went from a 2010 Tundra to a 2017 Tundra and find it frustrating how many interior things they got rid of - rear door storage, upper glove box, and even the small front door storage cubbies - all gone in the 2017. I will give them credit for adding a trailer brake controller and making the backup camera standard. How are your cam seals? Mine seem to be ok, but I know it has been an issue with Tundras these days.
I miss the upper glove box.. that was awesome. I have had no issue with Cam Seals. I will let you know if that creeps in. It will be interesting to see what they do in 2022.
AKgrowngal you’re spot on. I also just recently went from a 2011 to my 2017 and find myself missing my old rig a lot. I’d swap the interior in a heartbeat if I could
Still rocking my 2009, coming up on 200k. I’m a Contractor so the truck has been used heavily . It’s held up, and from time to time we still use it to go on ski trips when there is more than a couple of inches of snow. It’s been good. I wouldn’t go with a new Tacoma. My wife’s Highlander has the same engine and it just doesn’t have nearly enough low end torque. Tundra pulls hard from the rip. The Highlander/Tacoma have to be revved out to get full power. My buddy had a 14’ taco (or whatever the last year of the 4.0) and it has so much better low end.
I can say I’m excited for the tundra refresh. People worry about reliability on potential turbo engines. I think the reason it has taken yota forever to update the truck is because the wanna get it right. If you guys remember when the gen 2 came out in 07’. It was light years ahead of competition. In fact it still has some of the best specs you can get from a base engine. I’ll keep mine until the refresh has a couple of years to work the kinks out. May just buy the new tundra and continue driving my current one as a work truck. All in all, great trucks
Subscribed! I just got a 21 Tundra & love it. I have many plans for my truck & your video's are very helpful/informative. Thanx a lot!
Tundra has less, does more... Sold. Thank you.
I need you on my videos... excellent, short summary.
Agreed. Interior falls short. So what? the rest of the truck is spot on.👍
There is a lot of talk about the Tundra interior "falling behind". The real question, one might want to ask: What are you using your truck for. My family has a large ranch here in the Texas Pan Handle and we have a Tundra as a ranch truck (as well as several Fords and an older Dodge, pre-Ram). The Tundra has the most functional interior. The knobs and switches can be utilized with gloves on. The seats have proven to be very durable. In many ways, unless you do not actually utilize your truck, because you might live in the suburbs and think 20 or 22 inch, low profile tires are great, possibly never shifted into 4-wheel drive, then all the interior nitpicking is understandable. If you actually utilize the truck for its design purpose, then the Tundra interior shines in so many ways. What I wish (as I am the girl that got the damn thing stuck in a pasture before), is that it would have a true locking differential like both of our Fords. When the time comes to replace the Fords and the Dodge, we will probably buy another Tundra. Unless, we have to replace the heavy-duty one that pulls the cattle trailer, which the Tundra cannot.
Great editing man, I really enjoyed all your points. People need to realize that everyone has a different taste and I think all issues need to be addressed whether if they agree or not.
Thanks... Yeah I agree... I get that a lot of people think I'm a pansy for complaining about cup holders...etc. But the thing for me is I really am a Toyota guy... as they update the Tundra next year... I don't need what they did to the Dodges and everything... I just want it to stay competitive. My bet is that we get "just enough" to be happy... here is hopping the new power platform doesn't have any big kinks to work out.
To each its own. I dont drink and drive so the cup holder is not that important to me. I dont get why alot of people complain about the interior small price to pay for reliability i would say. I just sold my 2004 tacoma original owner 16 yrs no mechanical issues. 280k miles
I totally agree that regardless of a "falling behind interior" Toyotas reliability makes up for it.
Happy Birthday! Just installed my new UpTop Overland rack on my Tundra. Well made easy to install.
Applied outward pressure when tightening the last 6 bolts on each crossbar, seated the supports helped make it very solid.
Can't wait to get mine.
Good evening there bud 👍 I have a 2021 Tundra , TRD Off Road 4x4 SR5 and love it . You conveyed some excellent information for us , thank you 🙏. Great video
Awesome, Glad it was helpful.
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I totally agree with you on the bumper. I want a full brush guard on a full replacement bumper for the same reason. Only problem is not very many of them are very high clearance and they look ugly. I think I’m going to have to get a high clearance one and Fab up my own tube work.
Happy Bday Nate, great video! I’ll foot stomp the challenge with the rear suspension. I destroyed the Icon springs I bought first and went OME after that and in 3 years those are now done and I’m moving to custom Deavers. I have air bags as well and the product you’re referencing for detaching the bags from the axle are sometimes called “cups.” Checkout Daystar brand. On the Expedition One bumper I’ll add they need to redesign the swing arm retention pins and add a swing stop beyond that in case catch pins slip. Ask me how I have a huge dent in the rear fender panel 😂. Great video!
Good call out on the pins on the Expedition-One.. I actually talked though that on my Truck walk around video... I have snapped those tiny bolts a couple times. My "new" projects has custom Deaver springs and they are impressive... but I would say that they are overkill for a lot of new overlanders. Obviously it always comes down to actual use and abuse... sounds like you may do the kind of trips I do... 😂 - You will probably like the new project... I should have some stuff out in the next two weeks.
For me, as long as tundras stay the same"boring" I'll keep buying. Less electronics means less issues to deal with. I bought engine and transmission not fancy. A friend of mine that just bought a raptor said he bought it for the looks. Me on the other side what ever extra tech I need I'll I stall and replace if it breaks. Toyota please stay same. I will never understand why people complain do much, why not just purchase a ford, chevrolet or dodge that has everything you want. Very nice video, got a lot of useful information. Just subscribed.
I don''t understand why people complain about the interior. Simple is more and less to break! I like the simple elegance.
It’s a common complaint, there are a few easy wins hey could get… but obviously I don’t care too much… I bought 2 Tundras
After 11 mins watching it finally came to my mind. You are the dude from GOT
Oh man... what one? What guy... girl?... I gotta know?? 🤔
@@OutdoorAuto The only one i can imagine he is talking about is Jamie Lannister. 😊
@@cathrine9900 yep. A little thinner
Great review. I just bought a 2021 Tundra and I don't think your first "what I don't like" is that big of a deal. First, IT'S A TRUCK. If I wanted beautiful interiors I would buy a Mercedes or Audi. My other vehicles have been BMWs that I've been driving for 20 years and although their interiors have all the bells and whistles they also BREAK. The other point I wanted to make was when I compared the Tundra to the RAM 1500 the RAM had the cool 12 center screen. Big deal. Instead of displaying my Sirius XM channel on 12 inches it displays on 8 inches in the Tundra.. I also don't see what the big deal is with the instrument cluster. The new F150 has the LED cluster that shows the tack and the speed. My Tundra does not have the digital instrument cluster display but somehow I can still tell what speed I'm going down the highway.
I agree... OBVIOUSLY... that is why I own two Tundras... but the video was a review on the Tundra... not a WHY I love my Tundra video. Just trying to be objective.
are you still using Cathode-ray tube TV, Plasma-TV , LCD-TV or OLED-TV ?
I like everything about the Tundra inside and out they lasts forever. Still the best truck out there
I keep buying them… so obviously I agree.
New to the truck lift game and thinking of overlanding. Thank you for the info, you will save me money.
Glad it was helpful.
Happy Birthday man! Keep up the great work! The content is very interesting (even for us non-Toyota guys). These videos/editing are put together very well.
Thanks... Even if you are not a Toyota guy... I hope the info translates... What platform are you running...?
@@OutdoorAuto Sorry it took a minute to reply, I'm here in Georgia and had to tuck the kiddos in. Speaking of kids... if Peter McKinnon and Jeff from Expedition Overland had a kid- I think you might would be him! Seriously though, the jump cuts/back lighting/audio/different angles/B-roll are all top notch. It along with your delivery is what made me subscribe as much as the content. I'm currently in a 2017 Ram Power Wagon w/Ram Box on 35's/ 4 Front runner load bars connected to the same cargo mngmt. system as the Tundra/ hold up a Roam 4 person tent. Built a DIY cargo slide last year to handle table/chairs/wood/propane. Wish list mods: White Knuckle sliders, diamond back tonnue, clamshell tent (for time) expedition one rear bumper, more whiskey...
that cup holder thing hit my kokoro
I don't know what you are driving but my 2014 Tundra has two cup holders AND two 12v USB plugs in the rear seat.....along with two 12v DC 'lighter' plugs. I didn't even ask for them. I had to add running boards but that was it. It's a base model 2014 Tundra with a 4.6.
Yeah... on the newer Tundras they actually dropped some of the finishes... they kinda went in reverse... 🤷♂️
Happy birthday man! Love the channel and photography.
Thanks for watching
That's one of my complaints about my 2020 Tacoma. There are 11 cup holders in the truck and ZERO of them hold my water bottle which is relatively small!
That rack slide @10:47 was unexpected. Simple and reliable will always win against "modern" tech. It's a vehicle, not a phone.
Ooh there is a whole video on that rack slide... it actually caused some decent damage - th-cam.com/video/Hw4wn5Vd_l8/w-d-xo.html
Happy Belated Birthday!!! I hope it was your best one yet.
No complaints... Life is good.
Happy Birthday! Great video. I’ve been wringing my hands about switching from my 4Runner to a Tundra. Mostly for power while towing the trailer. Even with regear the 4Runner just lacks the power I’d like. But I do love my 4Runner and the Tundra plus Patriot would be quite long. Decisions...
Yup... it would be longer for sure. It would be a huge improvement in power though. I never even towed with my 4Runner and it still felt under powered. I guess it really comes down to how tight of trails/ extreme trails you run... then again... if you have a trailer at all... that is probably already decided for you. 🤷♂️
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Really great video and solid real word review. Happy Birthday and keep up the good work, come down to AZ our Tundra AZ Group would welcome you!
Thanks 🙏 - where is the Tundra club in AZ... I want to get down there this winter some time... but probably not till Jan.
@@OutdoorAuto Arizona Tundras Group #AZTG found on FB... I'm coming off a 2019 RAM Rebel, yes great interior but I honestly don't miss much about it other then the back seat cup holders lol, 3 kiddos I need cup holders grrr otherwise my VOODOO Blue 2019 TRD Pro Tundra is great!
I say you can either have awesome interior..or..... I'll stick with the awesome Powertrain that goes forever... Toyota Tundra one badass truck on planet Earth... been in love with Japanese technology.
I pretty much agree... I mean the had cup holders figured out and then literally changed them and made them worse... so I think they can fix simple stuff like that... but I agree... I dont need a spacestation... but lets get some proven, slightly behind the times, tech updates... AND LOCKERS
Cool truck and cool Trabbi picture in the background.
I am always amazed how many people know what a Trubant is.
@@OutdoorAuto I was passenger in one in the 80's in the GDR. Greetings from Germany.
My buddies and I were just discussing why Toyota didn’t add a rear locker because I was telling them I want the Eaton rear locker next on my Tundra.
I bet that it makes it in the Next Gen... there is no way Toyota hasn't heard this load and clear and with the popularity of "Overlanding" exploding and new Jeeps and Broncos, Raptors... they have to beef up the TRD package for the Tundra.
Awesome video as always, Nathan! And happy belated birthday! Hope it was an awesome one. Can't wait to see your big new project coming up as well.
Happy Birthday. Great video. Can’t wait for the BP-51 video.
I'll try to expedite that... there are a few things really worth knowing.
Toyota should sponsor this guy.
I like this Cologne Guy... he has great ideas 💡
Would love to buy the Tundra, but payload is so weak it just will not work for me...And since Toyota likes to talk up it's off road ability for the Tundra, it wouldn't kill ya Toyo to put in a rear locker! Do that, I'm all in on the great Tundra!
I really like my Tacoma interior simple so I don’t baby it during some hard adventures, BUT a drivers seat with a built in hand rest would be amazing!!! It’ll fix my issue with having my seat mostly forward.
You make a good point... when the interior is Utilitarian you don't feel bad to really use a truck the way it should be used.
Nice review I have a 2010 doublecab long box as my daily and I love it
They really are great trucks... There is a reason I just bought another one...
@@OutdoorAuto absolutely i will buy another one if I ever have to but I am excited to see what powertrain they come up with since the rumor is the 5.7 is no longer gonna be under the hood
awesome… Happy Birthday
Thanks for the info
It was a big B-day this year... 40.... still kicking. Thanks
Enjoying your content and channel. I'm moving to Boise in a few months so looking forward to seeing some local Idaho trail videos. Then again maybe not, can't let the world know :D
I have a better idea... we should just grab coffee when you get here.
As always, your reviews are incredibly helpful. Completely agree with your front bumper comments. Look at C4 Fabrication. They have some awesome products. Looking forward to your old man the EMU suspension review as well. Thanks for all of your good work. Merry Christmas.
Funny you say that... C4 is what I am going with. I will work on getting the OME review out as fast as I can... there is an issue with install that can cause big issues... but the suspension itself is incredible for the price.
@@OutdoorAuto I am heading out to Bullhide 4 x 4 in Fort Collins for a build on my 2018 tundra. Doing the OME suspension etc. I decided on the C4 front bumper matched well to a ComeUp winch. I agree, seeing the winch is a very important part of using that tool. Love the Factor 55 equipment as well. Off to the mountains !! ⛰😎
My build starts next week. In short, what is the issue with the installation of the OME suspension ?
I use the bed of my 2019 Tundra to store 55 gallons of gas so I can go around the block. 11MPG really! The only thing worse could be getting hit with a gas guzzler tax.
Toyota Tundra number1
I really wish tundra had a 4,5l twin turbo diesel engine like the land cruiser 200! It gets amazing power and mpg
Me TOO! I wonder when the US will get Toyota Diesel options.
Lmao I was think "What can he possibly break on a Toyota Tundra!?!?" Not gonna lie. You had me there for a second.
If I had to bet on the first thing I would break... I gotta say a seatbelt would not have been high on the list... If I avg one issue like that a year for the next 5 years... I'll take it.
Happy Birthday man! Appreciate the content and tips. Do you know of any companies that have winch visibility for Tacoma’s? I have an 06 that I’m hoping to turn into a nice rig but I didn’t even think of wanting to see the winch
I would check out C4 and CBI Offroad Fab... they have a lot of options.
It’s funny and all relative I guess. I have a ‘21 Tundra Platinum w/ 40K miles on it and absolutely love everything about it, interior is beautiful in its functionality & simplicity. The V8 w/ a 38 gal tank, the great turning radius, towing capability, the quality and reliability. Can’t get enough of it! As far as the lockers, good luck w/ that on the 3rd gen…3 years-in, they still don’t have tow hooks. Appealing to soccer moms out there, wonderful grocery-getters, what a dissapointment all the way around. Somehow Toyota abandoned their core competency w/ this 3rd gen.
Love the cup holders in my 2020 4Runner. They all have the little rubber thing that can stay or come out. Some cups work with the rubber in. Yeti coffee my works with rubber out. My 40 Oz HydroFlask fits in one with the rubber out. That’s weird about Tundra as I love the simplicity and a adaptability of them in my Runner.
Happy belated Birthday! Enjoyed your video; a lot of thoughtful content!
Thanks 🙏 - Happy Holidays
Very thorough video and hit all the points that I’ve felt needed to be addressed on the aging platform. But either way, since it has aged well and performed extremely well over the years, it is a top choice for me.
I’m looking for my next addition to my garage for a flatbed build and it’s hard to pick even a Power Wagon. Still waiting to drive the work truck version of the 2020+ PW. Maybe that will sway me over a lightly used Limited Tundra.
As always, thank you for the content 👏
Oh and I almost forgot the most important part... happy birthday 🎂🎁🎉
I keep thinking... with how "aged" this thing is... it is incredible how well it has held up. Such a great truck.
Narrow trails can be another drawback to a full-size truck. I have put some “pinstripes” on my Colorado on some of the narrow forest service roads here in Virginia.
Yeah, especially Bald mountain/Big Levels. Tight in there.
@@12scars Funny you mentioned Bald Mountain. I was thinking about that trail when I was mentioning "pinstripes". Definitely got some "pinstripes" on my Colorado from that trail. All of the Mountain Laurel is tough on the paint.
I agree on the locker, for both the Tundra and Sequoia. Also, the payload capacity on the Tundra is embarrassingly low compared to the F150 with the EcoBoost.
Happy Birthday! You might have talked me out of getting that ADD bumper so keep us posted on what you go with including which winch. Seems like with the ADD bumper you are limited to only a couple winches because of cavity space but maybe that's true with any bumper? Also, I will be towing with my Tundra at times so I'm considering the detached airbags you mentioned. Wondering though with the ICON adjustable shocks if you think you can achieve a desirable ride quality off road by dialing to a softer setting and the opposite for towing?
ICON has some great systems... depends on what stage you go with but, Yes, you can definitely get there with them. I am going with the C4 hybrid bumper... it is a mix of a Baja style Tube bumper but beefed up to handle Overland. The ADD is a really great bumper if you aren't somebody that counts on your winch for really critical recoveries on a regular basis. I think the detachable airbag is the ultimate solution for max offroad capability but also being able to tow when you need to.
I’m not even an overlander, just wanted to see what the issues are. Water bottle holders (big 40oz ones like Hydroflask) don’t fit. Abs seatbelt ratchet. Pretty good considering you use the truck to the fullest
I agree... I have definitely tested it and it has been awesome. That’s why I have two now.
Happy Birthday and keep posting more videos
Thanks, will do.
Not sure if someone has already commented on this but I guess your aware that Tundra is getting a complete ground up redesign going on sale this fall. One can only assume it will be very modern to compete with the big three. I know GM is replacing their horrible interiors for 2022 model year. I agree totally about Toyota and durability and focusing on it but you can have modern, and durable together. I owned 2007 Crewmax for 5 years and really liked it but it really did fall behind the times and competition. I really anticipating the new redesigned Tundra.
I am pretty excited to see what they do... Always a little worried about new engines and transmissions... but Toyota doesn't get that stuff wrong very often. I know a lot of people hate losing the V8 but with all the advancements out there... I could see it being a good thing. I just hope they ad the locker option.
I put a 35x12.5 under my bed on a 2nd gen, I just had to cut off the ears that hold the stock tire in place closer to the cab. Double cab w 6.5’ bed, not sure if that is the difference?
Speaking of bumpers.... I am a HUGE ARB fan but I don't like the look on a Tundra. I am digging the look and strength of the Fusion bumpers.
Happy Birthday man!!
Thank you.
Really appreciate the candid review. It matches my experience with my 2018 cement limited tundra! Really love the v8. By putting 35s on yours, did you feel the need to regear? I was considering upgrading my stock 32” tires to only 33” based on my goal of light overlanding, but you’ve got me reconsidering.
35's don't need a regear at all... and I'm not just saying that... the V8 and 4:30 gears have no issue pushing 35's... I would draw the line at 37's for regearing... With the new build project... it has 37's and I will have some videos about that soon.
@@OutdoorAuto Awesome. Is the new build project on the existing Tundra or a different vehicle? Can't wait! I'm also looking to upgrade the suspension, but feel the BP51 is out of my price range and beyond what I need for forest service roads and very light rock crawling. Do you have a suggestion for a suspension between the stock Bilsteins and the OME suspension you're running, in terms of both price and capability?
-i have the ome kit (not the bp51) with the add a leaf in the new leaf packs
-im going with that same size offset in 35s. i have 295s with stock wheels and spacers
-went with a p&p sliders that are worth every dollar and rear duel swing out bumper and arb front bumper that i love. it has easy access to the winch too .
-front runner roof rack i would redo to something else. every thing is stupid expensive and the quality is not to par. customer support is very poor too
-removing the front sway bar is awesome and try it if you already have not already. rides smoother of road
Excellent content! Happy Birthday!
Thank you 🙏
Merci!
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Hi, I do overland with a full seize truck to and I tow a lot to.
Is it possible to have a link for the specific airbag system you talking about. I don’t want to last any travel.
here is a link - suspensionconnection.com/2007-2021-toyota-tundra-4x4-and-2wd-ride-rite-air-bag-helper-springs-rear?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw6auyBhDzARIsALIo6v9SK9dZ3WQ6B_Bu1Jjs19793d_nAbTuPIdpB0DXwERteZQVya4KPD8aAil8EALw_wcB&gyear=2016 You actually get the AirBags, leveling kit with a compressor and bluetooth and the daystar cradles...
Someone told me having a reliable drive train and power train is the ultimate luxury.
It is.