The 9th KER of the LUO COUNCIL OF ELDERS, Jaduong’ ODUNGI RANDA
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- This is my exclusive interview with the 9th KER of the Luo Council of Elders [KENYA]. It is all edged that he is the cultural lead for all the Luos in East Africa and the world at large.
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To all brothers and sisters, elders in Kenya Luo/Lwo blood, we hear with sadness the troubles you are going through in Kenya and we are standing with you. Wa kwayo YAWE pa Icarael me cung kwedwu, me po pi wu ducu macalo jo mere. Kaman.
It shall be well.
My BRO am from Gulu Uganda I like the way you are bringing back our LUO nation back together
Thank you so much. Well, it’s about time someone does it, and that someone is me. I will come back to Gulu too to do the same with the Acholi Elders. Kindly share my video with your friends and family. I want more luos here.
lwo circumcised before even the ugandan Acoli men did this practice. It was stopped by european missionaries. Do not feel inclined to translate all things in Eng we need to keep these knowledge in various dialects of Lwo we can pick it up bit by bit. It is good to keep secrets too.
Keeping secrets is very good. Remember our ancestors gave secrets of the Afrikan people to the muzungu and that's how they conquered us
@@queenwere1 Sure, that is why we should be promoting our varius luo dialects,children are very quick in learning langauges - they will hear everything by the time they grow up. We warn them not to translate things in foregn languages. Did you notice how the roman priests started penetrating through the children? Our elders should not have allowed this. We do not need their religion nor politics. They deceived us and made us worship pictures of their relatives, calling it Jesus or Mary. These are lies.
Thanks so much. I was honestly caught up between translating to ensure wider understanding by all luo subgroups or not translating to keep secrets. In the future, I'll do selective translations.
Mainly, Ugandans run a strong LWO organization in the diaspora! Kenya's Luo and the Ker should seek an audience with this group! Scholars such as Professor Humprey Ojwang should help Ker to lead us! I visited Homa Bay and met Mr. Jared Wendo of Kanyada; I listened to his vast knowledge of the Luo clans & history of Luo from Ramogi to Nyada to myself! I hope such men are competed into the more excellent Luo Council!
The position seems more political than cultural.
To be honest Mr Kogot, I am not impressed by that Ker of Kenya. He seems to be very much in a hurry. He is not keen on questions and not as humble as his fellow elders from TZ, UG, Ethiopia etc.
Well, many have expressed the same. Maybe I'll have to redo the Interview.
What we need is lobby groups for the advancement of Luo around the world ranyisi maber en kaka Israel timo operations mage ei US kod around the world
This will definitely a good move. Love for the tribe without economic advancement is ZERO.
Jaduong onge kod vision malongo
😅😅😅 don't limit jaduong'.
And the worst politician is luo😂😂😂raila 😂😂😂
Thanks for the comment but this platform isn't political. So political opinions aren't appreciated.
Wach Jaramogi kuong'o Raila en gima iwacho gi 1.mwache 2.ng'at moramora mokdwa neno joluo kanyakla 3.political opponents of luos so that gi discourage you from voting so that you think that your vote is in vain (joPNU ndalo Kibaki,joJubilee ndalo Uhuru, to en mana mano ema nyaka joKenyaKwanza tiyogo nyaka sani ei PinyOwacho masani)...Onge kamoro ei history ma Jaduong' Jaramogi nokuong'o jakom... that is a lie
This guy is too shallow, his answers are rushed maybe look for an elder from siaya or bondo
I said that, very very shallow and knows very little.....Check my comment above. He's saying that he's Ker for all Luos in the world and thar Luos are in Nigeria which is not correct.
Mr bro you heard Ker kowachoni...jaluo en jaluo ... Dana nen nyakogwang' to nenen manopwonjowa dholuo mar mihia
It is unfortunate that the current Luo elder doesn't know the real stories of the Luos and the symbolic meaning of Ker.
Hi brother. As always you're doing very very very good work. My question is unless i missed one of ur episodes, i've not heard you mention Luos in TZ yet i've heard many times that there are Luos in TZ specifically referred to as Jouyoma of TZ. Kindly clarify if there are Luos in Tanzania.
Thanks for bringing this up at the right time. I'm going to Tanzania next week to meet the luo of Tanzania. So subscribe and share my channel with friends and family. Next week I'll bring the Tanzanian episode
@@KPtravels001 Thank you. I will definitely share and I look forward to that and many more episodes.
Brother, you are luo ambassador. Keep up the good work 🙏🙏❤❤🥰
Thank you so much. Kindly share my videos widely with your friends and family. I need more luos on board.
Wonderful seeing my elder talking 😊, however the younger people are the ones who will unit us together. It would be beautiful to have a Luo conference to begin the dialogue. Student exchange will be one such thing. Thank you bro for your wonderful work.
Absolutely!!Atleast the unity conversation has been started.
Werruok ne oknyalre kaluo
One Ugandan Luo tribe...Adhola have their own king Called Tieng Adhola.
Are you among them right now? Can you help me reach him on Monday?
I'm going to Tororo tomorrow
Ker iyiero kod juogi. Juoka noseyieri
Ere kaka en Ker mar piny mangima to oyiere gi Joluo ma Kenya kende?
Go to Egyb you will met with Lou groups in it
I've been to Egypt but I didn't find any luo. Do you want to specify the region?
I just learned that “nindo” or “nhindo” in Luo Kenya means death. In Acholi South Sudan, it means sleep. It makes a massive difference when used in a news context.
It means the same thing in luo of Kenya (to sleep). And death is "tho". But we feel that "tho" is too harsh. So we tend to use "nindo" as a polite way of expressing "death". It like using "he passed on" to mean "he died".
It is just euphemism.....
Mot bot'i(u) omera a Ocira..
Meno dong caro lok..
Ma oto = dong "oywee"/"onino ma twal(a)"..
Dako onywal = "oyabo wang'e".. ki mukene..
I Kiswahili (Tanzania).. it is very common where.. "ame[isha]lala mtu.." = a/the person is dead/has died.. is the norm in every day conversations..
I think that is really where from Ladit/Jadhuong Odungi Randa got to using the word "nindo" (for "to"/"tho" (dead/died)) ..
Thank you for your constructive view..
Yot kom...
@ocengoyugi4578 Apwoyo matek omina. Menu kom lok. Yot kom boti bene.
@@KPtravels001Ooh, I see! I really enjoy your videos. I have been telling all my South Sudanese Acholi people about them. We (my family) laugh our hearts out when watching many of your interviews with the different groups. Because the way other luo groups call some things sounds like they are just learning my dialect - we understand just enough to laugh out loud 😂
Bro great job
Thank you so much. Kindly share my videos with your friends and family. I need more luos on board.
Hello Peter...amor kodi pile ka pile kendo an gi adier ni ibiro loso a good Luo repository ka seche ogik...one question from me, In Luo Kenya we do have a philosophy "Od wadu" that has always regarded us as ONE, if you get back to our brothers from different parts of EA please let us know if there are such philosophical pillars they abide with.
Regards
Mophat Omere
Thank you so much Mophat. I will definitely put the question across. Also, should you have any question I'll be happy to know.
Don't forget to share my videos widely with your friends and family. I need more luos on board.
Revised Luo Dictionary...wachore ni entie....en kanye? En ng'ama use??
This mzee is full of wisdom. I've enjoyed listening to his narrative of Luo history
He is not detailed you have more knowledge in the subject than Ker...he needs good brief that post require good understanding the Kenyan Luo History is a serious distortion. J still strain to understand the importance of this position. This old man is accepting everything yet structures are not there to deliver all that he is promising. J still need to hear from other Luo nations about circumcision they seem pure on the cultural issues than the Kenyan Luo.
Thanks for the insight. Well, my hands were tied at some point because the goal was to interview not to debate so I couldn't refute some of his points. However, I also didn't agree with some of his points like being the leader of ALL the luo in the world. I thought he is the leader of the Kenyan luo. Nonetheless, he is an important figure and I treat his words with great honour and respect.
Oginga Odinga started efforts to unite the Luo diaspora by expanding branches of Luo Union to Tanganyika , Uganda, Congo DRC with future plans for CAR, Chad ,Ethiopia/Eritrea and Lower Egypt/Sudan. By 1957 he had become the Luo Ker(leader) and would relinquish the post to Joel Omer after he became Kenya VP in 1963 following independence .
Yes, that is true. He started a good journey, and we’ll help to finish it.
I’ve not heard of the Luo presence in Eritrea though
@@KPtravels001 Great work you are doing! He (VP Oginga Odinga) was also involved in Luo Thrift to promote economic empowerment among Luo peoples of Central ,East ,North and North East Africa . He travelled extensively with his young children and sons across the region including Uganda Entebbe ,Kampala, Pakwach, Lira,Gulu, Agoro, Kitgum, Lango, Pader etc . To this day his family has vast business interests in the region particularly Uganda .
@@KPtravels001 The Luo-Anywaa are found in Sudan and Eritrea(very minimal migrants) but concentrated in Ethiopia where in 1912 they fought and defeated the British . Historically Eritrea has Nilo-Saharan ,Cushitic and Semitic groups . The first groups in Eritrea from Upper Nile were Nilo-Saharan(Nilotics) . Some scholars consider the Luo Nilo-Semitic under Nilotics while others see it Nilo-Saharan like Nuba but still under Nilotics . In contemporary literature those of Hebrew extraction are considered semitic . Prof Bethwell Allan Ogot is an expert in Luo history and despite being a graduate of Makerere was Banned from Uganda by Yoweri Museveni for criticizing the treatment of Northern and Eastern Uganda Luo during LRA Luo-Acholi JOSEPH KONY rebellion .
@@KPtravels001 Consider producing a documentary on Luo and work with experts together with the elders . You can then produce app on Luo history and a Language app for the younger generation to learn the language for a download fee . For the elders they can consider building museums and learning/language centers like the Chinese Confucius centers in regions occupied by Luo peoples and also urban centers in Tanzania, Kenya ,Uganda, Congo, Sudan, Ethiopia etc where younger populations can learn the language from elder teachers .
Good interview over there. I see my questions were all asked. Thanks man and keep up the good work.
Glad you enjoyed it jayadha. Kindly share my videos with friends and family. I need more luos. And, ofcourse I'll be happy to know if you have more questions.
Thank you Kogot for the interview, however, Ker was not precise with his responses. He was too general and yet we wanted specifics. Take an example of the question on joka jok, owiny and omollo. I actually got more information on Luo migration from the videos on "Duond Luo on Lolwe TV by Nick Okello"
I personally wasn't satisfied with the response on that specific question. I will organise another Interview with him and his council (the entire luo council of elders)
@@KPtravels001 Thank you
He however was right on the Joka owiny who settled mostly in Alego.
Thank you very much as always KP.. it was a wonderful discussion..
I believe.. as stated by Jadhuong Odungi Randa.. that it is possible to organise events and conferences [from time to time] that will bring and improve on the unity of Luo Peoples from different parts of East Africa.. South Sudan.. Ethiopia.. Congo-Zaire (DR Congo).. etc..
The number1 obstacle to the whole process is/[are] COST[s].. the financing of the various organisational processes that will be involved..
It's true that quite sizeable amounts of money will be needed for - transportation & communication (air & surface).. accommodation.. overall maintenance (feeding.. health issues.. safety & security..) during the duration of the events..
There are [a good number of] very wealthy (millionaire) Luo individuals.. whose generosity could be called upon to help in many ways in providing the greater parts of all the financial requirements..
Erokamano.. Apwoyo..
Good health to all the team..
Yeah that's true. Planning and logistical costs is a big barrier (has been a big barrier overtime to be honest) but let's hope to find away though. Some sacrifices here and there will make it happen. I'll be traveling to Uganda to attend the Luo Union festival in Uganda in August. It's my bit of sacrifice I'm doing to contribute to the course.
@@KPtravels001
Very sincerely omera.. you are completely SPECIAL.. and that is absolutely true deep deep within myself inside my heart.. I totally mean just that..
The personal sacrifices you are making are PRICELESS..
The total costs.. financial and otherwise to date.. you have had to self finance.. since you started this project.. is quite a quantity..
I remain totally committed.. and will continue to endlessly look for every appropriate sources of financial and logistical means and support as we slowly move along forward..
Apwoyo.. Erokamano..
Good health...
Umira Kogot Peter, I suggest that you create Luo Kingdoms Cooperation between the Luo Kingdom in Kenya, Alur Kingdom of Uganda, Alur Kingdom of the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Japadhola Kingdom of Uganda, Oyo Kingdom of Uganda, Acholi Kingdom of Uganda, etc, etc. I am from the Royal Family of Alur Kingdom of the Democratic Republic of the Congo, but grew up in both Ugandan part and partly in the Congo part.
Hello, I'll definitely put this into account. A step at a time.
I'm trying to write true history and I need help sometimes. I need people like you to help me reach out to the right people in authority.
Yawa nitiere luomoko ma ne onyuolgi Mombasa, gi Nairobi. Joluogi timore ni gin gikiya dho luo. Koro ere kaka luo gi inyal konygi ? To buch luo mane oket chon iyalo vijana ma obam ila ma onyuol Mombasa gi Nairobi ne ogol nang'o?!!
Well, the city assimilation menace is not only for the luo but all other groups of people. It's probably their parents' responsibility to ensure that they visit home atleast once per year to bridge the gap.
Amor
Jopadhola
Acholi
Alur
Luo , Sudan
LUO,Kenya
Luo,TZ
Luo , Egypt
Etc
Are you sure there are luo in Egypt?
Can you please give us your real correct name[s].. to bring about any meaningful conversation/communication with you..
Thank you..
Stay well...
Am getting mzee very clear from Gulu
Thank you so much. I’ll soon have to hear from the Wazee from the Acholi group. I might be there in August
@@KPtravels001if you link upp with Deben of Lakwed TV on you tube he will be able to link you up with some elders
En kamano kaka Obama noriwre gi jomoko US kucha miwayudo Ker mokwongo ma Jaluo ei SuperPower
Obote obedo Lango Nilo-Hamites not a Lwo/Luo. Obwolo Luo me Kenya, Acoli ki Luo me Zambia gin lumone pa Lwo/Luo.
But Lango are assimilated luo.
@@KPtravels001 no, they are not Luo please, remember what that commenter said they learned the language for British plans? google Lango master plan and see this is what Obote used, Amin, now M7 uses against Lwo/Luo. They pretend, some marry a lwo just to spy according to that plan. If you got this please let me know so I may delete this as it is sensitive.
Mano twak malong'o K'ogot. Think of meeting his council. I believe the other Luo groups also have councils. Plan to have discussions with them and ask similar questions- possibility of having a Luo conferences.
Thank you. We agreed that I'll meet him with his council.
Did you know that .the longest River in Africa people call it with the name of Britains Queen Victoria .let change it River of Lou’s that is good name
Did you mean Lake Victoria? Or River Nile?
Ker mar Luo we exaggerate
Dhi mos omera🤣🤣
I am happy you asked about the Pharaohs. Though I did not get the precise answer of yes or no.
I think he insinuated a NO, but went ahead to imply that civilisation in Egypt had a luo influence.
@@KPtravels001 my honest take is that the Ker is less informed. I was not satisfied with most of his answers. He falls short of what a true Ker should be.
I think it is extremely difficult to be certain whether or not the very ancient Luo ancestors were part of the Pharaohs..
So much time (many thousands of years have) has since passed.. so any correct original oral information has naturally become too much diluted.. and in most cases has wholly disappeared (died out..)
Thank you for your thoughts..
Stay well...
The way we build huts,ot atota, has pyramid shape and the culture is coherent with ancient civilization although it has been fought.
Have been waiting to hear how LUO from Kenya speak your accent has changed a bit
Yes, and KER has admitted it that we’ve mixed up with the bantus and this has led to the differences we have today with most luos of Uganda.
Great mission! But you're being unfair to Luos in Tanzania. Have you ever found it pleasurable to visit and engage Luos in Tanzania?
Omg, I felt that. I will definitely come to meet the luo of Tanzania. I just felt it's the exact same dialect and accent as the luo of Kenya. I think of luo of Kenya and Tanzania as one group.
Kindly send me a private message and we can plan this Tanzania visit.
@@KPtravels001 You're right. We speak the same dialect as our brothers in Kenya. But I still feel that fact is unknown to many especially Luos in Kenya therefore a vist would expose some thrilling moments.
@@KPtravels001 How do I send this private but direct message?
@@eng.makolal1367 kindly check my TH-cam profile. I have some contact information up there.
Amor ahinya
Erokamano. Kindly share my videos widely with friends and family. I need more luos on board.
Respect your self and elders.
What do you mean?
😊😊
He's telling a lot of fiction, the oldman should be promptly advised the we have no luos in Nigeria and those other places he has mentioned, he's also not head of all Luos in the world, only Luo Kenya. En Ker mar Joluo ma kenya kende..
He is not telling lies. We knew from when we were kids that Lwo/Luo were lost in West African countries, they speak the languages of those people but they are luo who got lost in West Africa. Some still retain Luo names with same meanings of words as Luo/Lwo of East Africa to date.
Hi Okwash1.. seems you're impulsively extremely negative to any person.. and (very likely) all the people around you.. at all times..
You sound like 1 of those who talk all kinds of irrelevancies when their minds are fully drenched in alcohol+..
Please be a little more thoughtful when commenting on such an intellectually very important issue..
Keep safe and well..
Thank you...
@ocengoyugi4578 Oh dear.....You are writing a whole book yet you know nothing about me. I stand by what I've said. The Oldman handpicked by Raila seems to be very ignorant about a lot of issues....Period!!
@Mrpwocber Seek knowledge brother. Onge Jaluo kata Nilotes in Nigeria.
@@Okwash1 It seems you think I am your age group. If you have not been brought up to respect the elders and to learn from them then do not disturb us either. Thanks. I am not a Luo/Lwo of Kenya, but Kenya Luo are our blood relatives.
This mzee is just full of himself.
Hahaha what makes you say that🤣🤣?
Wife inheritance is in the bible if I'm not wrong and also i feel there is something unique about luos worldwide that's why their clear history can't be found. Lots of love KP.
Thank you so much. Could you point out the biblical verse? Anyway, thanks so much and kindly share my videos with friends and family. I need more luos on board.
@@KPtravels001 read the story of Abel n Cain deeply
Erokamano KP
You're welcome. Please share my videos with your friends and family. I need more luos on board.
Okebe en ang'a ?
Okebe is treasurer (I think). Well, don't ask me about "karan"😅😅
@@KPtravels001 Kwara ne en jagoro e luo union ndalo ma Jaramogi Odinga ne en Ker. Kasto obedo Ker mokwongo mar Luo council of elders after it was revived. Ber winjo from another Ker. Be iparo ni you can get a session with the whole council together ? Or at least other members ?
@@widdzz well, I’m very confident that I can get a platform with the whole council. I might just have to have some “envelops” though because members of the council live in different places and I suspect I might be expected to fund their travels. SO yes, possible but might be expensive.
idi Amin notimo marach kwom Kerwa 🤣
He crashed his crush 😅😅. Very bad😊
Idi Amin targeted Acholi people. Many people fled to Tanzania to organise a guerilla war against Amin
@@odochokee9856 Was it just Acholi or the entire luo fraternity?
Is John Kony an Acholi? Just curious
@@KPtravels001 Yes Kony is Acholi
There is evidence the Luo of Kenya used to circumsize but they replaced it with removal of the teeth - I have the evidence/or you can search online "kenyastockholm.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/luocircumcisionrites_03.pdf". The culture of the Luo/Lwo world-wide is exactly what you read in the bible which christians call Old Testament. It should not be taken lightly this is the real culture of the Luo/Lwo which europeans documented and fought against.
Well, the given link doesn't open.
@@KPtravels001 copy it and paste on google search or search under LUO CIRCUMCISION RITES