Hey bafael i was messing around with v skill 2 in training and i learned it can dodge some raw critical arts even after the animation plays such as kens.
As a Vega player, I would say that his 2º V-Skill is pretty wack on wake up. They really have time to punish you easely. But it's really good on neutral against characters with slow attacks or spammable specials on neutral (such as Honda). You can preemptively do a V skill, and if you see they whiffing a slow attack, just punish!
@@thebeluvdtrex i definitely prefer this over vs1 but i wish it had a chain combo or some way to use outside whiff punishing so that i can build v meter...if nothing else, let it work with his current chain combos
@@Af0 well seems that whiff punishing quite a few good attacks for several characters is more of a thing now...your videos inspired me to continue despite all the "revisions" from season 2 onward
Looks like it used meant to be used on offence. Strikes/wall dive cross up on knockdown, throw/command throw, and V skill 2. That's a strike, throw Dodge, rock paper scissors right there. I'm getting yomi vendetta, a claw clone, vibes.
If invicibility starts on frame 1, what prevents Vega from doing this on every wake up? I suppose Ryu could read the vskill 2 wakeup and do a tatsu to punish, but not all characters have a forward-moving special to punish a move that goes that far back. What am I missing? I suppose I could go online with Vega and mash vskill 2 every wakeup to find out myself.
I'm guessing he would get punished if he does this in a corner 100% of the time. I'm not sure about mid-screen though but it's good for Vega to finally have some kind of defensive option when he gets knocked down (even though I don't play the character)
Some people might find option selects for it, or bait it by dashing then blocking. But overall I think this would be an amazing v skill for Vega. He felt really fragile before so I'm glad he has this
If you read the vskill just use a move with forward movement (ryus solar plexus) or just a hadoken. If they cancel into the kick you can get a crush counter.
Compared to most SFV defensive options it’s really good, but throws beat it, and you can bait it like ex reversals, though you do have to chase it down.
I show it escaping a frame 1 meaty in the video. Maybe it can be meatied by lows or throws or something but it definitely dodged Ryu stand strong on frame 1
Its sooo Garbage since it moves back, it makes him run into projectiles. Its only usable on wakeup. Very lackluster compared to all the other v-triggers, he should have gotten a better more reliable anti-air
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the move is -3 to -6 depending on spacing. just a small addendum
Back to ST it is, when men were men and Vega had a claw.
Vega had V-Shift before it was cool
Hey bafael i was messing around with v skill 2 in training and i learned it can dodge some raw critical arts even after the animation plays such as kens.
2:11 i think the purpose Capcom wanted the special cancel to be used for is to bait invincible EX DPs
Bafael: "EX Spin Edge"
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Thank you very much for this @Bafael
As a Vega player, I would say that his 2º V-Skill is pretty wack on wake up. They really have time to punish you easely. But it's really good on neutral against characters with slow attacks or spammable specials on neutral (such as Honda).
You can preemptively do a V skill, and if you see they whiffing a slow attack, just punish!
Ricardo Niclas Lopes yea also multi hitting moves beat it out as well
This will not save the character, but so far looks far better than Vs1.
Why wouuld anyone pick Vskill 1 if this is invincible. V-skill 1 was always trash. Huge risk for minimal reward.
Good to see you are back around, my friend : )
The simple fact that you can get punished using VS1 is enough to make me use VS2 over it.
@@thebeluvdtrex i definitely prefer this over vs1 but i wish it had a chain combo or some way to use outside whiff punishing so that i can build v meter...if nothing else, let it work with his current chain combos
@@TheFightingGentleman haha i wouldn't call it "back" but let's see what happens
@@Af0 well seems that whiff punishing quite a few good attacks for several characters is more of a thing now...your videos inspired me to continue despite all the "revisions" from season 2 onward
I think this moves should be the Move That Guy had in the Final Fight One Nes version
Cosmic heel is back
They buff my homie yet?
Thanks 😊
Honestly, this an d the buffs make me want to try vega
Looks like it used meant to be used on offence. Strikes/wall dive cross up on knockdown, throw/command throw, and V skill 2. That's a strike, throw Dodge, rock paper scissors right there. I'm getting yomi vendetta, a claw clone, vibes.
WHAAAAOH
If invicibility starts on frame 1, what prevents Vega from doing this on every wake up? I suppose Ryu could read the vskill 2 wakeup and do a tatsu to punish, but not all characters have a forward-moving special to punish a move that goes that far back. What am I missing? I suppose I could go online with Vega and mash vskill 2 every wakeup to find out myself.
It's basically a free CC punish for your opponent if you do it in the corner. But mid screen? Yeah this seems kinda nice
I'm guessing he would get punished if he does this in a corner 100% of the time. I'm not sure about mid-screen though but it's good for Vega to finally have some kind of defensive option when he gets knocked down (even though I don't play the character)
Some people might find option selects for it, or bait it by dashing then blocking. But overall I think this would be an amazing v skill for Vega. He felt really fragile before so I'm glad he has this
If you read the vskill just use a move with forward movement (ryus solar plexus) or just a hadoken. If they cancel into the kick you can get a crush counter.
If they read it they can just use a slower move to catch the recovery.
I mean, it's better than VS-1, but that's not a high bar to begin with...
How tf do I counter this shit
Doesn’t this seem broken as a wake up option?
you can throw it
Compared to most SFV defensive options it’s really good, but throws beat it, and you can bait it like ex reversals, though you do have to chase it down.
Most meta characters can punish it.
DKombet27 yeah I was messing around with it and it actually doesn’t go far at all, pretty easy punish. Still nice to have though
Yes, totally broken on a character with no invincible reversals.....
It’s frame 2
I show it escaping a frame 1 meaty in the video. Maybe it can be meatied by lows or throws or something but it definitely dodged Ryu stand strong on frame 1
Bafael it’ll escape lows frame 1 too, but throws beat it. It only has strike and projectile invincibility
Nothing should have invincibility for its entire duration and be able to be spammed like this
Unless it's given to a strong contender for worst character in the game? 😋
Throw him a bone! Give him hope. 🙂
Retro_WrathX13 lariat be like
Chat Lord you mean the Gief one? At least that can be ducked and only has fireball invinc in the middle of the animation
Its sooo Garbage since it moves back, it makes him run into projectiles. Its only usable on wakeup. Very lackluster compared to all the other v-triggers, he should have gotten a better more reliable anti-air
i thought being a fakeout/whiff punish was the point of his first v-skill...?
Yikes if at first you don’t succeed.....