Hi there, loved the video! Maybe you could help(really hope so), I'm riding a scooter for about 13 years, Feeling really comfortable on the road(especially in Thailand, crazy drivers), and finally about to buy my first bike now!(32 years old) Was planning to buy the z400, went for a test drive, and it was so fun! Stupidly I tested the z650 too, and was even more fun(powerful of course). Now have to say, both were about 10min ride, can't really understand from it (although surprisingly felt comfortable with both). After this long intro (sorry), do you think the z400 will be enough, and better learning curve? Or I'll get bored fast? Kinda like speed(at least in the city, still a scooter). And planning to go for out-of-town rides (I'm 6ft ,180lb).
sobo250687 if you have the money and can be a smart / safe rider, you should buy the Z650. The weight and power isn’t overwhelming for a beginner. The Z400 is a good bike, but you will grow out of it. Plus if you want to put a ladyboy on the back, you will not have enough power. ;-). A cheaper option is a nicely used Suzuki SV650. Watch my video on the SV: th-cam.com/video/Fb8sDu3hl6U/w-d-xo.html
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Great review... well stated points when looking to buy. Honestly your review videos are better then anything the pros make.... seriously, how can they expect to compete against your banana score!
My buddy had one several years back. Switching between my FJR and his, there was one thing that stood out like a hard on at a #metoo convention, his bike FELT like a motorsickle. While the FJR was undoubtedly tons more powerful, anything short of 6 or 7k rpm, it felt car like by comparison. The little twin just felt groovy everywhere in the powerband.
Sir Galahad the price for these bikes is crazy. 2020s with the tft dash can be purchased for under $6k right now. I just don’t want to regret my purchase with the vibration when I can spend $1500 more and get the z900. It’s an amazing bargain, I’ll really have to them out in person for sure
@@MarvFitBikesKicks damn you can get one under 6k? Think I paid 6299$. You could pay a bit more for the z900 or Yamaha's fz09 and it might be worth it. There are times I'd like a bit more power but I'm in my mid 40s now and I've slowed down a lot lol. I guess I would say if you can spend a little more go with the z900!
Kawasaki done a good job on improvements over the Er6n, 30 pounds lighter and updated styling, it's just a pity they didn't up the power as the SV has 9 bhp more and the MT/FZ has 7 bhp more, which is a lot on a bike with less than 70 bhp.
I have the 2016 kawasaki ER6N,love the bike.My 1000 Fireblade stands and hardly gets ridden now.Just love everything about the 650.Experienced rider riding for 20 years and 6 foot tall but have np with the 650 naked.Even do some long trips on the bike.
I'm new to motorcycling. I own Kawasaki Z650 made in 2019. and I'd like to know what tires would suit my bike better concerning my riding style. Stock tires are Dunlop Sportmax D214 Front 120/70 ZR17 58W (32PSI) Rear 160/60 ZR17 69W (36PSI) I don't ride super speed agressively and I'm more interested in higher mileage and improved traction during rainy weather rather than speed. Also, I want those tires to be reasonably secure during technical maneuvers like swerving, tight turns, fast braking.
Michelin Road 5 are the ones you're looking for. Excellent in rain weather and great allround tire for the road. I have them on my Z650 and they are great imo. :)
Like comparing a bacon-wrapped fry to a bacon double cheeseburger. The 400 is a great little machine, but more or less a stepping stone to the 650. If you're level headed and have the cash, Z650 for the win.
Is there a quickshiter and auto blipper somewhere for this bike? Arthritis in my left hand holds ,e back from buying anything and I don’t want a Ktm 390 given low power
I really want either this or the sv650, but I hate it how the rad of the sv kinda sticks out and not a fan of this tach, and it seems every1 notice the slight down in hp as well... Decisions decisions... How about the HD street 750 as a comparison?
HD can't build an all around capable naked bike. They're still just cruisers. You buy the SV for the engine and trellis frame, the Z650 for comfort, and the MT07 for handling. But any of the bikes can be mildly tweaked to be equal. SV will give you the most customization and cheap parts.... been around for 20 years.
I've ridden the Z650 and the Ninja 650. In fact, after several demo rides and LOTS of research I bought the '18 Ninja 650. Loved everthing about the bike but sold it after a month. The buzzy, high-end vibration through the bars put my hands to sleep very quickly. I tried several remedies and nothing worked. It's a buzzy, vibraty (is that a word?) parallel engine I'm afraid.
Interesting. I didn't notice any tingling or numbness after the 30 minute ride, but I'm not surprised. What are you riding now? I have an old Honda CB700 that does the same thing. Loosening the grip helps with hand fatigue in general.... as well as every other riding characteristic.
@@FancyAnimal Really!! Interesting.....900 twin isn't a bad change though! I'm after a 2nd hand Tuono next!! All the bike you'd ever need....for me anyway!
Bro that’s me on the left in the beginning! On the Z900RS Cafe! Check out my IG @renelopez___ (3 underscores) and that’s my dad in the red flannel! This is great!
I have an ER6F. same engine as the Z650 and honestly it's a superior bike in most aspects, sure it's heavier and it's a sport tourer and not a naked, but it flicks just as easily, better fuel range, better wind protection, higher top speed due to aerodynamics and most importantly I got a 2011 for 2.5k which apart from small nicks to the paintjob is in flawless condition and actually at 1:33 the numbers you said, sounds like the z650 engine is weaker cos the er6f is 72 bhp
You're literally the only person who can determine that. Everyone wants something else out of their bike and it always comes down to personal taste. Personally? I'd say yes.
You said the stock tires are sh*%, does that come with the same Dunlops as the 2019 Ninja 650? I was thinking to change mine, but after a ride to the twists... seemed the tires were good?
less torque and bhp but more weight and smaller rear tire than the MT07. It's a nice bike but it's not as much fun and sounds no where near as awesome as the MT with a decent exhaust fitted 😉
@@FancyAnimal The MT07 doesn't take any #1 spot for me with how bad the suspension is and how flat the top end is. The SV650 and Z650 definitely take first and second place
It's not that huge of a difference I own a FZ O7 and my little brother owns a z650 both have full exhaust systems. The FZ is definitely louder, but the z650 sounds good as well and is very similar in speed with the FZ having a small advantage power wise.
Love the bike. Hate those goofy angular pointy mirrors that most bikes come with today. I wouldn't want to watch a movie or TV show or use a computer monitor or a cell phone shaped like that, so why would I want to look at the world behind me in a mirror shaped like that? There are some things that exist for function, not everything should be a fashion accessory.
Not bad up to about 80 mph due to the tank shroud/fairing and the headlight bezel. Head buffeting is minimal. But it's not a 1200GS. You're going to want a windscreen for long trips.
@@FancyAnimal that's why I asked. Sometimes if you get hit with clean air you don't get buffeting and you're better off than a small windshield that puts turbulent air into your face. Thanks for the response!
Between 4500 and 6000K yes. High buzzy vibes that made my hands go numb. Loved my '18 in every way but couldn't handle those vibes and sold it after six weeks.
@@hawkrider88 this is exactly what i dont want happening to me, i dont want to be throwing money away switching between different bikes. guess ill take this off my list and look at z900
2017 z650 was my first bike. I ride it every day and love it as much as the first day I got on it. Good power, but not too overwhelming. The handling is great and should help you gain confidence for other bikes if you decide to change up in the future. The "low" top-speed keeps you from being a complete idiot by accident or on purpose. It's a great bike and for the price you absolutely won't regret it. You may feel the need to go with a bigger displacement bike in the future, but you'll get years out of a 650 as a starter bike. Good luck on yours and be sure to go take an MSF course if you haven't already. They really help out in the beginning.
For those seeing this comment but don't want to scroll through the video, he never says the Z650 is better than the KTM or Ducati. He ruled them out of the peer comparison due to the sizable difference in pricing, and he narrowed the comparison down to just the Z, MT-07, and SV650.
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Hi there, loved the video!
Maybe you could help(really hope so), I'm riding a scooter for about 13 years, Feeling really comfortable on the road(especially in Thailand, crazy drivers), and finally about to buy my first bike now!(32 years old)
Was planning to buy the z400, went for a test drive, and it was so fun! Stupidly I tested the z650 too, and was even more fun(powerful of course). Now have to say, both were about 10min ride, can't really understand from it (although surprisingly felt comfortable with both).
After this long intro (sorry), do you think the z400 will be enough, and better learning curve? Or I'll get bored fast? Kinda like speed(at least in the city, still a scooter). And planning to go for out-of-town rides (I'm 6ft ,180lb).
sobo250687 if you have the money and can be a smart / safe rider, you should buy the Z650. The weight and power isn’t overwhelming for a beginner. The Z400 is a good bike, but you will grow out of it. Plus if you want to put a ladyboy on the back, you will not have enough power. ;-). A cheaper option is a nicely used Suzuki SV650. Watch my video on the SV:
th-cam.com/video/Fb8sDu3hl6U/w-d-xo.html
@@FancyAnimal lollll, loved that reply!!
Thanks man!!
@@FancyAnimal "ladyboy" has me DYING ! LOL.
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Great review... well stated points when looking to buy. Honestly your review videos are better then anything the pros make.... seriously, how can they expect to compete against your banana score!
I may go banana split someday. I'm debating fudge or caramel though.
Oh and keep up the great material. Enjoyed your video on cam timing.
Got a 2018 in covert green last year. Put a yoshimura alpha exhaust system on and the roughness at 4-6.000 rpm is history 😉
I believe you...but my question is why that would be?? I noticed the same thing on a demo bike that had an Akro exhaust system.
got a 2019 z650 and it totally buzzes around 4 rpm when in neighborhoods - guess I do need that yoshi.
My buddy had one several years back. Switching between my FJR and his, there was one thing that stood out like a hard on at a #metoo convention, his bike FELT like a motorsickle. While the FJR was undoubtedly tons more powerful, anything short of 6 or 7k rpm, it felt car like by comparison. The little twin just felt groovy everywhere in the powerband.
Love my 17 z650.. smoothest clutch/gearbox I've ever had
Yup it's top shelf. Cheers!
is it true theres vibration on the highway?
@@MarvFitBikesKicks there is a bit of vibration around 6k rpm but I hardly notice it anymore. I love this bike. For under 7k I really cant complain!!
Sir Galahad the price for these bikes is crazy. 2020s with the tft dash can be purchased for under $6k right now. I just don’t want to regret my purchase with the vibration when I can spend $1500 more and get the z900. It’s an amazing bargain, I’ll really have to them out in person for sure
@@MarvFitBikesKicks damn you can get one under 6k? Think I paid 6299$. You could pay a bit more for the z900 or Yamaha's fz09 and it might be worth it. There are times I'd like a bit more power but I'm in my mid 40s now and I've slowed down a lot lol. I guess I would say if you can spend a little more go with the z900!
Love your videos bud, keep them coming.
From your intro, I don't doubt you liking parallel twins. IYKWIM
I love mine I got it Saturday and love the handling,MPG,comfort and just the power of this torquey HP. I’m definitely traveling on this bike.
Congrats chief. Enjoy and ride safe!
Death Troopers Congrats chief. Enjoy and ride safe!
Fancy Animal
Thanks man I appreciate it, I will and same to you be safe ✌️
Hi Which mpg you have ?
Awesome review! Loves the banana scores and pac man sounds.
People always say the mt07 is more powerful but it has slightly higher displacement.
Kawasaki done a good job on improvements over the Er6n, 30 pounds lighter and updated styling, it's just a pity they didn't up the power as the SV has 9 bhp more and the MT/FZ has 7 bhp more, which is a lot on a bike with less than 70 bhp.
Hey man you're doing some good work here. Much superior to the guy who seems to be dominating these TH-cam bike reviews.... Keep it up!
Thanks Chief!
The Yamaha XSR 700 is another candidate in this range. Naked, upright and retro look
Great review . Liked and subscribed !
Nick Clark thanks chief!
You should do a review of the mt-07.
Yamaha has a Demo in LA next Saturday. MT10, 09, and 07 are on the list capt.
What beautiful scenery for a ride.
I have the 2016 kawasaki ER6N,love the bike.My 1000 Fireblade stands and hardly gets ridden now.Just love everything about the 650.Experienced rider riding for 20 years and 6 foot tall but have np with the 650 naked.Even do some long trips on the bike.
Middleweight twins are definitely in the sweet spot of motorcycling. Maybe you should trade-in that Fireblade for an L-twin Ducati 1299 Panigale.
Good in depth review.
Sweet video!
Hey Fancy, U should do a review on a Ducati panigale 959.
I'm new to motorcycling. I own Kawasaki Z650 made in 2019. and I'd like to know what tires would suit my bike better concerning my riding style.
Stock tires are Dunlop Sportmax D214
Front 120/70 ZR17 58W (32PSI)
Rear 160/60 ZR17 69W (36PSI)
I don't ride super speed agressively and I'm more interested in higher mileage and improved traction during rainy weather rather than speed. Also, I want those tires to be reasonably secure during technical maneuvers like swerving, tight turns, fast braking.
Michelin Road 5 are the ones you're looking for. Excellent in rain weather and great allround tire for the road. I have them on my Z650 and they are great imo. :)
@@gamebred8513 thanx man, I'll follow your advice.
Which did you prefer, the z400 or the z650? I think the z650 looks a bit outdated with no led headlight etc..
Like comparing a bacon-wrapped fry to a bacon double cheeseburger. The 400 is a great little machine, but more or less a stepping stone to the 650. If you're level headed and have the cash, Z650 for the win.
PS - questions asked after midnight make me hungry.
Fancy Animal haha, it’s early morning here :) thanks for the reply
I am owning a z650... and i have to say I never regretted buying her. ^^ Fun little bike and perfect for beginners!
@@oesimarkus5456 it's a great all around machine. Cheers!
Nice review sir..what kind of gloves are those!?
Here you go chief!
www.ebay.com/itm/Ducati-REVIT-Tour-Leather-Textile-Gloves-Gloves-TEX-BLACK-NEW-/162737988245
Is there a quickshiter and auto blipper somewhere for this bike? Arthritis in my left hand holds ,e back from buying anything and I don’t want a Ktm 390 given low power
Great street bike just a really fun machine.
I really want either this or the sv650, but I hate it how the rad of the sv kinda sticks out and not a fan of this tach, and it seems every1 notice the slight down in hp as well... Decisions decisions... How about the HD street 750 as a comparison?
HD can't build an all around capable naked bike. They're still just cruisers. You buy the SV for the engine and trellis frame, the Z650 for comfort, and the MT07 for handling. But any of the bikes can be mildly tweaked to be equal. SV will give you the most customization and cheap parts.... been around for 20 years.
Looking at this for my first bike
I got the 2019 z650 as my first. Definitely not to big or expensive for a first. I think its perfect to grow into.
@@natgpower Word !!! How you liking it ?! Trying to decide between your bike and an SV650...
@@TopshelfJunior man I'm enjoying the hell out of it. I'm glad I got it though I do want a 4stroke now to get an actual rumble.
Nice review.
I've ridden the Z650 and the Ninja 650. In fact, after several demo rides and LOTS of research I bought the '18 Ninja 650. Loved everthing about the bike but sold it after a month. The buzzy, high-end vibration through the bars put my hands to sleep very quickly. I tried several remedies and nothing worked. It's a buzzy, vibraty (is that a word?) parallel engine I'm afraid.
Interesting. I didn't notice any tingling or numbness after the 30 minute ride, but I'm not surprised. What are you riding now? I have an old Honda CB700 that does the same thing. Loosening the grip helps with hand fatigue in general.... as well as every other riding characteristic.
@@FancyAnimal SV650, my third. It doesn't fit me anywhere near as well as the Kawi....but the motor is gem.
Shiver 750 also a twin and sounds like thunder with a good slip on!
Great bike. It's in my 12 Inglorious Basterds list, but I think the Shiver 900 is the only bike currently available from Aprilia.
@@FancyAnimal Really!! Interesting.....900 twin isn't a bad change though!
I'm after a 2nd hand Tuono next!! All the bike you'd ever need....for me anyway!
Rich Twell Tuono is a great machine. The Ducati V4 street fighter should be interesting.
Do some riding reviews on bikes that compare with your Ducati !!!
Hows about a 2020 z900 review
Bro that’s me on the left in the beginning! On the Z900RS Cafe! Check out my IG @renelopez___ (3 underscores) and that’s my dad in the red flannel! This is great!
Watch my wheelie on my z650 stil learning!
I have an ER6F. same engine as the Z650 and honestly it's a superior bike in most aspects, sure it's heavier and it's a sport tourer and not a naked, but it flicks just as easily, better fuel range, better wind protection, higher top speed due to aerodynamics and most importantly I got a 2011 for 2.5k which apart from small nicks to the paintjob is in flawless condition and actually at 1:33 the numbers you said, sounds like the z650 engine is weaker cos the er6f is 72 bhp
What website was he showing at 9:34? It looks so familiar but can't think of the name
Ha ha CRAIGSLIST!
I just bought a ninja 650 2019 was it worth?
You're literally the only person who can determine that. Everyone wants something else out of their bike and it always comes down to personal taste. Personally? I'd say yes.
I just bought one too, fucking love it
you're the one who owns one, you tell us
I'm happy with my Ninja 650, I guess I'm to old to want a naked bike. ...
You said the stock tires are sh*%, does that come with the same Dunlops as the 2019 Ninja 650? I was thinking to change mine, but after a ride to the twists... seemed the tires were good?
Man, I feel like the older I get the more I want a naked bike.. I dont wanna be 40 riding on a neon green or yellow arrowrocket lol.
#1
less torque and bhp but more weight and smaller rear tire than the MT07. It's a nice bike but it's not as much fun and sounds no where near as awesome as the MT with a decent exhaust fitted 😉
MT-07 offers the best performance, SV650 is the best sounding / revving, Z650 offers the most comfort.
@@FancyAnimal The MT07 doesn't take any #1 spot for me with how bad the suspension is and how flat the top end is. The SV650 and Z650 definitely take first and second place
It's not that huge of a difference I own a FZ O7 and my little brother owns a z650 both have full exhaust systems. The FZ is definitely louder, but the z650 sounds good as well and is very similar in speed with the FZ having a small advantage power wise.
@@DylanVBWRX what exhaust does the z650 have ?
@@jordanh5368Two Brothers S1R Carbon and it sounds fantastic. I've got the hotbodies mgp growler
Love the bike. Hate those goofy angular pointy mirrors that most bikes come with today. I wouldn't want to watch a movie or TV show or use a computer monitor or a cell phone shaped like that, so why would I want to look at the world behind me in a mirror shaped like that? There are some things that exist for function, not everything should be a fashion accessory.
They make the bike look like a wasp or a mantis I guess, and I like them. But what you say makes sense, they're not the best shape to see behind you.
Average mpg for 2019 z650 model ? )
Around 40-50 depending on how you ride, I average 51.2 after 2500 miles
How's the wind at highway speed?
Not bad up to about 80 mph due to the tank shroud/fairing and the headlight bezel. Head buffeting is minimal. But it's not a 1200GS. You're going to want a windscreen for long trips.
@@FancyAnimal that's why I asked. Sometimes if you get hit with clean air you don't get buffeting and you're better off than a small windshield that puts turbulent air into your face. Thanks for the response!
I think your Ducati has hazards by holding the left signal over for a few seconds... at least that is how the 1299 works.
Tried it. No go. Don't see it in the manual either. But was exciting to think about for 30 or so seconds.
@@FancyAnimal guess that was a new 1299 feature - hopes dashed - gutted. I guess you're not allowed to be a hazard. ha ha
Ducatis don't have hazards because they obviously never break down.
Does it vibrates a lot?
Between 4500 and 6000K yes. High buzzy vibes that made my hands go numb. Loved my '18 in every way but couldn't handle those vibes and sold it after six weeks.
@@hawkrider88 this is exactly what i dont want happening to me, i dont want to be throwing money away switching between different bikes. guess ill take this off my list and look at z900
@@MarvFitBikesKicks Good luck. And consider at least testing riding an SV650.
looks like you answered my question at the end. sorry!
Slipper Clutch?
Yes, slipper clutch.
is this too much for a starter bike?
Patrick O'Connor not at all. I have one, they're confidence inspiring, and certainly not overwhelming, but have a very nice turn of speed.
@@warplanmotivation9804 buying mine tomorrow!
2017 z650 was my first bike. I ride it every day and love it as much as the first day I got on it. Good power, but not too overwhelming. The handling is great and should help you gain confidence for other bikes if you decide to change up in the future. The "low" top-speed keeps you from being a complete idiot by accident or on purpose.
It's a great bike and for the price you absolutely won't regret it. You may feel the need to go with a bigger displacement bike in the future, but you'll get years out of a 650 as a starter bike. Good luck on yours and be sure to go take an MSF course if you haven't already. They really help out in the beginning.
@@musicwv already picked a z650 up thanks i completely agree with you on everything thanks!
@@OCo16 Did you actually buy it ? How you liking it, the Z650 ?!
Sounds like pooping in Antarctica
What is up!!...
It still has the least exciting sound of the middlewieght. Put a another can wont help. Yamahas twin sounds way better
MissMan666 SV650 sounds better than them both.
@@FancyAnimal i agree, awesome sound
Best than MT, Monster and Duke? Come on...
Viewing comprehension = F
For those seeing this comment but don't want to scroll through the video, he never says the Z650 is better than the KTM or Ducati. He ruled them out of the peer comparison due to the sizable difference in pricing, and he narrowed the comparison down to just the Z, MT-07, and SV650.
@00:39 🤣🤣
And dude doesn't mention the best bike there is in the class......... the 2019 Honda CB650R. And of course he picks a Ducati, not surprised there.
Announces to the world that he didn't read the video title. CB650 isn't a twin genius.
@@FancyAnimal hahahahaha
u sound like seinfeld
I see you like them strap on's
Wrost clutch ever built in a bike