No. That's not how animals work. If you have cats and or dogs, you do not have to worry about wild animals sneaking in. I have never had that issue and I live in the boonies.
I am so, so, so, so, so, so tired of pitchblack movies and shows. Like, they did "dark" so well in the seventies and eighties, and then once we got into digital filming, we lost all of that. Bring back nights we can see in!!
3:20 I lovingly refer to this phenomenon as "the Cinema Sins effect". Where filmmakers think Jeremy is the average movie goer and live in fear of their story being "misunderstood" by the masses. I miss movies and tv shows that treated me as an intelligent person.
I have a genuine question: do you remember a movie from the last 10 years that actually made you feel like it was treating it's viewers like reasonable, intelligent creatures and if so, I need recommendations 🌟
See, I like the idea of this movie. Being trapped in a house while someone you love is slowly becoming a werewolf. I like the idea of the transformation being slow and gradual, shown primarily through the WOLF'S point of view of how they're changing, losing control and their sense of self, feeling like they're a prisoner in their own body while it lashes out in ways they can't change. But it also feels like the movie didn't really have anything BUT that idea. So once it's played out, there's really nothing else to latch on to. It's a great idea. But an idea isn't enough to carry an entire movie's runtime.
Yeah, I think the biggest issue with this film is that the wife didn't get nearly enough set up development as she should have. Most of the time she kinda feels like she's just there, so once the dad stops being able to talk and the burden of being the protagonist is placed on her the rest of the film sort of just becomes a loosely connected series of events with no real arc to tie them together. Once the credits started rolling I heard someone in my theater laugh and yell out, "man that was some chat gpt ass written script", and honestly I feel like that accurately describes my thoughts about everything outside the dad's personal arc. A lot of things sort of just happen with no thematic or larger narrative arc tying it all together. Like sure, the progression from point A to B to C all makes sense, but a lot of it ended up feeling hollow because there was no narrative purpose or direction given to it. It feels like the structure of the film was made using chat gpt to create a passionless series of events for the characters to follow with only the dad's personal arc having a real human touch to it.
@@obyone878 people who are often deliberately denied a good education and then are fed nothing but increasingly dumbed-down media and propaganda are gonna be dumb, yeah.
On the one hand I agree, on the other hand I've seen some wild out there takes on movies and etc. also my dumb butt doesn't always make the connection even if it's obvious.(I am trying to be better about that)
I'm torn between theories: • filmmakers think audiences are either dumb; • filmmakers think audiences are distracted, perpetually looking at their cellphones and missing critical plot points.
It would've helped if the movie's idea of "causing mental trauma" wasn't just making reasonable requests and scolding your kid for not listening when you repeatedly tell them not to do stupid things that could get them maimed, killed, or in trouble...
Honestly, I might be in the minority on this... I'm kinda sick of "fantasy monster as allegory for-" I just kinda want a movie where the monster is just... fun? Like I feel you can still have the movie have depth and themes to it without having the monster itself inherently be an allegory for something else ya know? I dunno maybe I'm just tired...
@@AmandaTheJediI mean the son had a gun, so there should be at least one more in the house. But I buy that the husband doesn't think about it at the time and his wife doesn't know about it.
Not a perfect film and definitely doesn't hold a candle to Invisible Man, but I love the idea that the werewolf infection is essentially an allegory to neurogenetic disease like dementia. The idea alone of an illness that gradually takes away your body and mind from you is bad enough, imagine it causing you to actively desire to hurt and/or kill your loved ones.
The scene where Blake says “I got cut on glass” and Charlotte tells him that it didn’t look like a glass cut and you just see the denial on Blake’s face. It was honestly one of my favorite moments in the film, because you can interpret the look to mean that Blake knows he’s going to get sick and he was just lying to himself.
I agree, and I think the slow, gradual transformation really conveys the suffering that they're going through. To me, the Horror these characters faced was only partially "When will Dad suddenly lose it and try to kill us?" It was mostly "How much longer are we going to have to go through this?"
Their characters and their relationships were so underdeveloped. I wish they explored Julia Garner’s resentment and lack of connection with her daughter. Once the arm chewing went down, she should have quarantined herself and her daughter away from him. He sees this as a threat. The daughter learns to trust in her care after maybe trying to get back to the father. We end with the mother telling WolfDaddy that “I’ll always protect her” before having to kill him. The end.
Funfact about those wolf shirts! If you remember any of that standard galaxy wolf variant- The original artist put together a lawsuit and sued dozens of manufacturers for stealing his artwork and got enough money to buy himself a home and everything :)
Although the movie focuses on Blake, the more meaningful arc belongs to Charlotte, who chooses to confront an uncomfortable truth rather than hide it, as Blake and his father did. This choice is pivotal. Blake revisits his childhood home because his father’s secrecy left him unaware of the danger. The moment Blake runs off in the basement underscores how his father likely never addressed the incident again, further straining their relationship. The exposition scene where Charlotte tells her daughter that her dad is sick, often criticized by others, is actually a crucial character moment. In admitting the truth she couldn’t face herself, Charlotte breaks the cycle of generational trauma, achieving what Blake never could. This film effectively captures the emotional devastation of a family coping with dementia. The stages of grief are subtly woven into the narrative, and the depiction of werewolf vision mirrors the hyper-awareness and disorientation that real patients experience as they lose their cognitive abilities. Blake’s inability to communicate, soiling himself, and gradual loss of identity are haunting parallels. Even his final moments, gasping for air, echo the heartbreaking end stage of dementia, where patients often lose the ability to breathe unaided. I appreciated this film for the same reasons I loved The Invisible Man. It tells a deeply personal story that transgresses its source material, adding just enough horror, tension, and camp to satisfy genre fans. Those who have experienced similar struggles may relate more emotionally to the story, but I found it profoundly compelling and impactful. Whether this film works for you or not depends on whether you like films that use horror tropes that function primarily as a metaphor.
I'm glad at least one person out there actually understands this film and isn't just dismissing it. I feel that the movie will likely have a deserved critical re-evaluation in about a decade, either when a new audience discovers it or, sadly, when this generation begins to experience just how devastating disease is as friends and family start encountering it. I've lost two loved ones to cancer, and there are moments in the film that I almost couldn't sit through because of how close to reality they felt.
This comment made me reevaluate how I felt about Ginger watching Charlotte shoot Blake and watching Blake die. I hated that. I wanted to scream, tell her to look away! I'm rethinking.
That's fine and all...but I feel other movies did this better. The original wolfman for example, is a tale about a man that also experiences what you describe and tries to contain the beast within and retain his humanity. He ultimately goes through each film that he appears wanting to die and to get rid of the burden of lycanthropy. Another tragic tale is An American Werewolf in London, where you also have a man who goes through the torment of losing control to lycanthropy and has to also deal with the ghost of the people he has killed. This makes him lose his sanity and humanity until the last few minutes of the film where he's taken out of his misery from the curse. So respectfully, this remake of wolfman is not the first or last werewolf movie to have themes and context that "transgress" it's genre...whatever that's supposed to mean.
I can't believe it's by the same director of the invisible man. That movie is so well directed. This Wolf man which I saw in imax laser was more of a TV movie.
Whenever I see such a severe contrast in someone's work in film I cant help wondering if it didnt come down to the people around them getting in their head or executives interfering.
He's always kinda been up and down, like he wrote the first insidious, but also the most recent one. But this movie does feel like someone saying 'you need to spell out exactly what the allegory is because a lot of people will be watching this while on their phones'
I don't hate the concept they came up with but I feel like the werewolf as a metaphor for something else has been done better in other movies. Ginger Snaps (one of my all time favorites) did the concept of turning into a werewolf as an allegory for puberty was done better than this.
21:19 the funny thing about lost werewolf movies is that most of them don't have happy endings. In the end the protagonist (if inflicted) always ends up dying and killed by a loved one.
Interestingly, there’s some werewolf lore in I believe Celtic and Roman mythos that people turn into full wolves for several years! Interesting how this movie has a touch of that.
There are also werewolves in either Celtic or Gaelic lore who are completely benevolent! They turn into their half-man-half-wolf forms to be guardians and protect others, they're basically werewolf knights and I want a movie about THEM.
Ginger Snaps also had elements of the slow transformation, especially when she's first infected, and how it changes her personality. So that element of it infecting you and you slowly turn into that thing isn't entirely new to the werewolf genre. They at least made an antidote, though it still wasn't a happy ending.
This might be me going crazy while seeing nothing that isn't there, but with how the movie has certain colors to it and hints the Wolf man has two fairy tale stories in it to combined to be a narrative. First one being Little red riding hood. Examples: - Daughter is wearing red and soon the mother at the end of the movie. - The big bad wolf is the father. - the sick grandma is the sick grandpa. - the mother is the huntsmen with how her clothes look and how she puts down the wolf not with a ax but a gun. the other is the boy who cried wolf. - The father as a boy saw a wolf, and knew about it as a adult, but instead of talking about it. He refuses to tell his family or people about the wolf as he drives back to his old home. Putting him self and others at risk. Plus Derek also fits into this role as well but in the more canon story of it. A guy who knows about the wolfman tries to tell the family about people getting sick in the woods, which they do not care about until he is eaten.
I kinda hope we get more werewolf movies with more Underworld type werewolves and not just big wolf or furry man. Probably cost and budget issue, but man I miss those types of werewolves.
I can’t wait for the Nosferatu video. I had a great time with that movie, despite my personal tastes leaning toward more complex stories. But I’m happy to watch your thoughts on the Wolfman too, because while this movie had a lot of things I enjoyed, I was a bit disappointed but couldn’t put my finger on exactly why.
I thought from the trailers this was going to be an allegory for abusive father/husband. I think that suits a werewolf myth better than generation trauma.
I completely agree with the idea that an entertainingly terrible movie is more fun than a just alright but forgettable movie. Leave an impression, good or bad, but leave an impression.
It surpried me how much i liked this movie. The emotional bits hit well enough for me, and i was just sucked in by the sound design. They make a lot of creative choices to tell the werewolf story in a way that felt very unique to me. Christopher Abbot delivers such a great performance in the transformation, I was on the edge of my seat for the whole movie. The direction also had some really cool moments, like how the camera moves and the cgi dissolves when switching perspectives in the transformation scenes and how we see the POV of the characters through the scope of the gun in the beginning of the movie. If I had to criticize anything it would be the lighting, everything just looks so washed out. The exposition dialogues are not very good either. But overall, I had so much fun! I should probably go watch other Leigh Whannell movies. Also The Fly.
I don't really count it as a "werewolf" as 1: It's not a furry, but a hairy dude, hence "wolf-man" and 2: it's a disease, why could you turn it on and off?
Between Nosferatu, this, and Guillermo Del Toro's upcoming Frankenstein, I am very excited for all these classic horror tales resurging! Please give me Creature from the Black Lagoon and Jekyll/Hyde !!!
The existence of a Wolf Man implies a Wolf Boy, a Wolf Woman, a Night Bitch...wait, sorry, I'm just describing the history of authors tinkering with the werewolf myth.
I'm tired of the darkness in all of the movies. I haven't watched this one and maybe I could even logically defend this darkness, but watching Gladiator 2 I was squinting so much my head started to hurt. Tried to convince myself to relax and just accept that "the scene is barely lit with moonlight or candles or a torch somewhere in the distance" because it's the appropriate vibe for the epoch 😅
The lore of this movie reminds me more of the Wendigo myths, human slowly turns into a ravenous, bloodthirsty wolf like creature, rather than traditional werewolf myths, though there are some that tell of full permanent transformations.
Yeah honestly it does have more wendigo energy than werewolf energy I think you put it well. It doesn't give me werewolf (I do feel like going back and forth is inherent to werewolves as a concept) so I was trying to figure out really what it fit more as and I don't know why wendigo didn't cross my mind. I mean it does lack the key components of wendigo being the cold and intentional cannibalism but at least in VIBES it gives more wendigo.
The movie Howl did the same thing about it being an infection or disease and I’m not against that. I think it reinvigorates if it’s done well, the genre of werewolf based horror
Derek Cianfrance was originally set to direct this with Ryan Gosling starring, and in The Place Beyond the Pines, Cianfrance centers the narrative on generational trauma and the legacy of fathers and sons. I think that element of this movie is the only part of his concept that remained. If we got his full vision of the movie I think there would have been far more nuance fleshing that out.
From the way you describe it, it wouldn't surprise me if there's a director's cut that's more subtle, but that there were executives who decided it was too subtle and pushed for changes.
I think the thing that i remember the most from this is that none of the characters could "read the damn room" during conversations. I will give them credit though for the creative ways the came up with showing his condition from his condition. Especially when he first wakes up, walks down into the basement, and then shows that he can see in the dark.
I just got home from seeing this, and I think something's wrong with me because I actually cried a few times during it. 😂 I agree though, there really wasn't enough of the lore given to us and the character development was lacking a bit. I would be fine with some of the Stating the Obvious that they do if they had just edited it down a bit, like the "becoming the thing that scars your kid" conversation could have been half the length it was, and I'd be fine with it. Or with her asking why daddy is sick, if the mom had just said "I think he got it from his own dad," I wouldn't gripe much. I will say, I KNEW a bear trap was gonna have to come up at some point and I was irrationally angry about it because I'm just. Tired of them. But! I like that they didn't use it at the moment that I thought they were going to! There's a moment in the beginning where they focus on kid Blake's feet as he's backing up, and I thought "Ugh here we go 🙄" but they faked me out and I like that lol. I didn't even know about the Saw connection (those movies are not my thing) but of course that was the first thing I thought of when the trap came in later and he chewed his leg off. Overall I thought it was good, I loved the Wolf Vision like you mentioned, and I actually liked the slow transformation. I think it builds dread, which is different than tension, because you know that everything is going to keep getting gradually worse, you just don't know how long it's going to take to end. I didn't think of the dementia analogy, but I think sadly that is a really apt comparison.
His leg is gone after he chews it out of the bear trap. But when he's crawling to the treestand ladder it's clearly not missing. Then after the gun shot its gone again. Otherwise I loved the as a whole. Once im over the ridiculousness, I'm in. Ruthy killed it. I can't wait to see her as the slSilver Surfer. Also those glowy shirts from the 90's...."American Thunder"
Wolf man was the worst kind of mediocre movie; one where it actually had a lot of things going for it, and it just couldn't pull it off. It's the movie equivalent of "I'm not angry, just disappointed"
I will say, my husband did not realize that's what the movie was about. I told him after the movie and he said, "Oh...well, now I can't see it any other way."
That’s actually sounds like a pretty interesting take. I always enjoy it when the familiar is turned on its head to be something different. Great breakdown as always!
@@AmandaTheJedi yeah, I also thought of that movie from your review. It also made me realize how many werewolf movies use lycanthropy as an allegory for generational curses
@AmandaTheJedi Yes! It was interesting, I found it kind of slow but the concept overall is kind of cool. Still not quite sure what I believe "happens" but that's part of the fun I guess lol
The thing that bugged be was doing away with the "if you kill the werewolf that infected you, then you go back to normal" thing. I mean you CANNOT just bring in his dad as the wolfman that infects him and not have that be a factor. Unfortunately this movie does not do that and it feels like they lost the plot towards the end because of it.
Ginger Snaps still felt more traditional in the transformation and infection even though it was permanent but yes that’s one of my favorites! I should have clarified that I meant more for wolf man style lore
I love any film with Werewolves just cuz they're my fave Supernatural Creatures. This one was okay? Not as fun as some others I've watched but it was decent lol
1:50 I've seen people questioning the premise and all that trying to say that it's not a werewolf Even if it's not supernatural in this movie it still werewolf More akin to werewolves of the underworld series where once you turn you're stuck like that you have no humanity essentially left You're running on instinct and animal urges which I actually really enjoyed and I really enjoyed how we saw him slowly turning throughout his sense is going and changing I just wish they did a little more with the premise maybe set up the ending so we could have it open for a sequel or a wider universe like maybe the government discovers the body and starts investigating it or something like that
I would have loved this if it wasn’t SO heavy handed and the wolf man looked less like a rat The looking in to psychologically of transforming is dope, I love the color and design choices as his mind warps. Cool ideas but man are they wasted on this film.
That's my problem with so many werewolf movies lol. I'm like "I don't know what that is but it's not a man wolf." 90% I'm like "That's just a hairy man who needs a dentist" or "I don't know what that is but that is neither man nor wolf, you've missed both briefs."
@ Right?? How hard is it to get a werewolf down when it’s been done well before! I can forgive a wonky design for a good movie but man this one really misses and it makes that design REALLY stand out with how awful it is
You know that unwritten rule "Don't remind your audience of a better movie they could be watching instead of yours"? They just had to name the daughter after potentially the best werewolf film every made...
Loved your thoughts! I’m not much a movie buff or horror movie buff, but it was cheap night and popcorn was on for $5. I went in expecting an absolutely ridiculous movie, and I was surprised how much I enjoyed it for a werewolf movie. But after listening to your thoughts and reading some comments, it definitely could have been better. I also found parts VERY dark. As you said, it takes away from the tension and takes you out of the movie. There was also no real fear/exploration about where the werewolf was that but the dad. Niche reference here, but the dad at the beginning is Joel from Parenthood??? I always thought he was such a hot dad but not so much in this one😂
2:49 I will say I didn't like the fact that you could tell what the twist was going to be 10 minutes into the movie so throughout the entirety of the movie when we see Blake is an adult and they're getting to the town or the farmhouse I'm just sitting here thinking to myself this person is definitely the werewolf that just scratched Blake It was such an obvious twist coming that I just had that in the back of my head the entirety of the movie until it happened
I saw this movie at my Regal’s IMAX theater. Even in the really dark scenes, you could see what was going on. Like in a scene where they are in the basement, Blake is standing in the dark and his wife can’t see him. However, I could see him standing there. I guess it depends on the theater you go to? 🤷🏼♀️ I really enjoyed this movie. I thought the intense scenes were well done and I really liked the use of color that was used.
@@HiddenDarkHMmore importantly, hairless werewolves HAVE looked good and frightening before, like on the Quarry and Harry Potter. But because he looks so much like a person and not at all like an animal, the loss of hair took me out of the movie even more
I like to think that the reason that his Dad lived such a long life without finding and/or becoming wolfie was because that wasn't og wolfie's territory. Og wolfie coming near his house when his son saw him was just chance. But when papa wolfie gets turned, that's because after all the years of going out to search for og wolfie he finally gets scratched. But the reason the son meets papa wolfie immediately upon returning is because papa wolfie still remembers that that's his home. He's just hanging out near his house and eats anyone who comes near.
if there's one thing adult life has taught me it's that you should NEVER overestimate the moviegoing public's intelligence, because some of them just don't have any. i can't tell you how many times i've heard people complain about how confused they were by something the movie practically spelled out for them.
Ohh, this sounds a lot more fun than the trailer led me to believe! I might prefer to watch it after a few drinks, but still. Looking forward to the Nosferatu video, it was such a... *movie* (I mean that as a compliment)!
5:52 No, it wasn’t just your theater! It was SO dark at some points toward the end when it really didn’t need to be THAT dark. Movies/TV have been so bad with this in the last decade or so… The scene doesn’t have to be completely black for the audience to know it’s really dark 😭
I love the original Lon Chaney wolfman and was actually excited for this movie. I think the slow transformation is a good idea of transferring the originals tragedy to this story. It’s a shame the movie couldn’t come together to do what it needed.
So fun personal story, I didn't see the original Lon Chaney Wolfman until several years later but I did see Abbot and Costello Meet Frankenstein when I was VERY young, like I think 7 or 8 which has Lon Chaney Jr. playing The Wolfman. That movie gave me night terrors for YEARS. There's one scene in particular where Costello is tied down to a table and Talbot is rescuing him but sees the moon and transforms while standing right over him while this HELLISH musical score is playing and that scene lives rent-free in my brain as an adult, even just thinking about it makes the hair on my arms stand up and puts my body in Flight mode. And I mean I had full-on wake up screaming and crying night terrors. I had almost nightly nightmares about him for years. When my father (physically) forced me to watch The Wolfman a couple years later because he thought it was funny how scared I was, I cried through most of the movie. I adore werewolves, they're my favorite fantasy creature, but the original wolfman I can't watch even at 33 and even just seeing a picture, even just the flashes in this video Amanda showed made me flinch and close my eyes. It's wild how such a simple and comparatively not scary depiction can cause such a visceral reaction.
I actually really liked this movie. But I do feel that Julia Garner was extremely miscast and had an actress who had better chemistry with Abbott (like Margaret Qualley or Olivia Cooke or Mia Wasilowska) this movie would’ve hit so much harder. Actually, I feel like if the mom wasn’t in the movie, this movie might’ve been better and hit way harder. But Julia Gardner just had no emotion except when she was scared or when she was shouting at Blake. I didn’t buy her loving her kid or Blake. I bought her irritation. And that was it and it brought it down. Abbott and his relationship with his daughter was really well done I thought. THAT said, I think Ginger may have not read his mind at the end though. 😂 He didn’t seem thrilled by the idea of “ending it”.
@@AmandaTheJedi I agree. I wish that the scene where she’s saying he’s her best friend, she got closer to him, or was trying to comfort him or something. It might’ve just been poor direction. If The Fly was inspiration for this film, I think Whannell should’ve prioritized Abbott’s and Garner’s chemistry just as much as the father/daughter relationship.
There's this horror movie called "mind body spirit" on shudder and I think it's absurd and funny enough to be worth giving it a watch. It feels like it'd be right up your alley
The dialogue is clunky, for sure, but I think the movie had enough cool ideas and visuals to make up for it. Maybe not one of my favs, but I don't feel like my time or money were wasted. I'm pleased with it. Tbh, I found it oddly relatable? I too deal with stress by mostly freezing and wide eyed staring, so I started to put myself in Charlotte's shoes and think "Oh shit, what would I even do in that situation?". Every few minutes, I'd think "is that enough of a threat? would I bail there? He was a fine a few minutes before, does that earn him some grace?". You can tell that she doesn't want to immediately forsake him, but you can see her doing calculations in her head the whole time, trying to figure out when enough is enough and she needs to get away for their own safety.
I Honestly felt like this movie had a hidden meaning that i automatically resonated with. I had an abusive father and I always told myself that when I have kids I’d never treat them the same way. When you have a troubled relationship with your father, it’s very easy to pick up on those bad habits and become the same “monster” that he was. This might be obvious to some but I really had to stop and think after seeing the movie
3:14, Ironically, this is the second movie to come out recently where a father and husband living in the woods and becoming a werewolf was used as an allegory. The Beast Within, starring Kit Harrington, goes more into the beast form being an allegory for him being abusive and inheriting negative traits from men in his own family, but still, 5:16, the dad here being portrayed as far more of a victim of his condition and, before that, being an under-appreciated, struggling parent makes it more tragic (21:07, even if *this* being essentially what the film boils down to is darkly hilarious).
This is the second werewolf movie I've seen about generational trauma. The first was the beast within starring kit harington and I think wolf man does a better job. Sure the dialogue is off in places and eludes to deeper lore but never does anything with them, kinda like the Kristen Stewart movie underwater, but I enjoyed watching wolf man whilst the beast within had too many slow moments and dream sequences. It definitely did show don't tell better than wolf man but it got repetitive about the curse being an allegory for generational trauma just the same. The main difference between these two is wolf man fully commuts to the monster being real whereas the best within makes you question that for a bit but not enough to an extent where the ending has payoff. I liked wolf man despite its flaws and its definitely making me realize I need to educate myself on exposition cause I'm not catching it the same way others are catching it. I caught it in the m knight movie old but I missed it in the last airbender show and percy Jackson so yeah time for some educating. Also I didn't thihk showing the dad's tattoo was all that bad, the curse doesn't reverse at death or when the moon is obscured so unless his clothes say his name I would have only assumed it was him and not fully known.
How are we feeling about disease creature I think it's pretty neat
If real life happened like that I want to be put in a tight cage....
Hear me out… please
You don’t understand…
I love werewolves so badly
Maybe the real werewolf is the scars we made along way
@@creacherr yes… definitely
I think it's far more fun and less repetitive than Zombies. Just too bad they didn't make more out of the opportunity.
We always knew why the Wolf Man, but but we never considered Wolf Man's feelings. We never asked "How is the Wolf Man".
Or "where Wolf Man?" That's the most obvious question.
Justice for Wolf Men
Big brain!
Is Wolf Man? But not Wolf Man shaped
This is so deep omg.
Doing this video in a Team Jacob shirt is *chef's kiss*
it's 20 years since Bella moved to Forks also... So, perfect timing
i just could not with the doggy door in the woods. do yall not have raccoons?? come on
I live in the city and I'm worried about raccoons and coyotes
In rural Oregon. There's all kinds of critters that would be raiding that pantry.
He had electric fences
Stray cats and dogs, possums, random people, woodchucks, skunks, there’s many animals I prefer to be outside my home than inside
No. That's not how animals work. If you have cats and or dogs, you do not have to worry about wild animals sneaking in. I have never had that issue and I live in the boonies.
I am so, so, so, so, so, so tired of pitchblack movies and shows. Like, they did "dark" so well in the seventies and eighties, and then once we got into digital filming, we lost all of that. Bring back nights we can see in!!
I think the issue is theatres, at least when it comes to Wolf Man; I had no problems with visibility in the darker scenes where I saw the film.
I would love lights and seeing things clearly. And colors. And maybe CGI/VFX artists being allowed time to do their jobs in normal conditions.
Nosferatu was perfect in that sense
@@DavidHollandsI think it actually plays well into the changing perspectives from human to wolf
@@gabiluch87 When I saw it, it was PITCH BLACK. Whole stretches of the movie where I saw nothing.
3:20 I lovingly refer to this phenomenon as "the Cinema Sins effect". Where filmmakers think Jeremy is the average movie goer and live in fear of their story being "misunderstood" by the masses.
I miss movies and tv shows that treated me as an intelligent person.
The problem is...they're not wrong. We have examples of audiences utterly misunderstanding plots. Like Fight Club
Media literacy is at an all time low
@@ShadowSonic2 I like to think that those are a loud minority, hopefully most people got the message of movie like fight club or american psycho
I have a genuine question: do you remember a movie from the last 10 years that actually made you feel like it was treating it's viewers like reasonable, intelligent creatures and if so, I need recommendations 🌟
@@ShadowSonic2 that is also unfortunately true.
See, I like the idea of this movie. Being trapped in a house while someone you love is slowly becoming a werewolf. I like the idea of the transformation being slow and gradual, shown primarily through the WOLF'S point of view of how they're changing, losing control and their sense of self, feeling like they're a prisoner in their own body while it lashes out in ways they can't change. But it also feels like the movie didn't really have anything BUT that idea. So once it's played out, there's really nothing else to latch on to.
It's a great idea. But an idea isn't enough to carry an entire movie's runtime.
Ginger Snaps is the way better version of this idea.
It could serve as a cool metaphor for aging, illness, dementia, depression, or addiction slowly turning a loved one into someone unrecognizable.
Yeah, I think the biggest issue with this film is that the wife didn't get nearly enough set up development as she should have. Most of the time she kinda feels like she's just there, so once the dad stops being able to talk and the burden of being the protagonist is placed on her the rest of the film sort of just becomes a loosely connected series of events with no real arc to tie them together.
Once the credits started rolling I heard someone in my theater laugh and yell out, "man that was some chat gpt ass written script", and honestly I feel like that accurately describes my thoughts about everything outside the dad's personal arc. A lot of things sort of just happen with no thematic or larger narrative arc tying it all together. Like sure, the progression from point A to B to C all makes sense, but a lot of it ended up feeling hollow because there was no narrative purpose or direction given to it. It feels like the structure of the film was made using chat gpt to create a passionless series of events for the characters to follow with only the dad's personal arc having a real human touch to it.
right. it's a pseudo intellectual movie for people who don't like horror.
The amount of media that assumes we have all forgot how to make connections or think is insane
I mean, the world proves more and more that people are really, really stupid.
@@obyone878 people who are often deliberately denied a good education and then are fed nothing but increasingly dumbed-down media and propaganda are gonna be dumb, yeah.
On the one hand I agree, on the other hand I've seen some wild out there takes on movies and etc. also my dumb butt doesn't always make the connection even if it's obvious.(I am trying to be better about that)
I'm torn between theories:
• filmmakers think audiences are either dumb;
• filmmakers think audiences are distracted, perpetually looking at their cellphones and missing critical plot points.
Seems like a lot of movies are made for people who are on their phone
Werewolf as traumatic mental health or body changes is so cool there could be infinite movies with that concept, but you have to be smart about it
It would've helped if the movie's idea of "causing mental trauma" wasn't just making reasonable requests and scolding your kid for not listening when you repeatedly tell them not to do stupid things that could get them maimed, killed, or in trouble...
Honestly, I might be in the minority on this... I'm kinda sick of "fantasy monster as allegory for-" I just kinda want a movie where the monster is just... fun? Like I feel you can still have the movie have depth and themes to it without having the monster itself inherently be an allegory for something else ya know? I dunno maybe I'm just tired...
18:50 wow, way to terrify her daughter with the fear that she would inherit whatever her dad and grandfather had to make them “sick.”
I could not get over the lack of guns in that house...in central oregon??? Please!!! There would be so many guns
Looool great point. I assume the dad's gun was with him when he got bit, but he'd have more than one for sure
@@AmandaTheJediI mean the son had a gun, so there should be at least one more in the house.
But I buy that the husband doesn't think about it at the time and his wife doesn't know about it.
But you know what it DID have? Lots of FRILLY DIAPHANOUS CURTAINS. Because THAT makes sense.
@@Scipio488 really appreciate your usage of "diaphanous", underrated word
@@Musicanimedork01 Lycanthropy is also a nice one (as a non-native English speaker, I do like the more obscure English idiom)
Not a perfect film and definitely doesn't hold a candle to Invisible Man, but I love the idea that the werewolf infection is essentially an allegory to neurogenetic disease like dementia. The idea alone of an illness that gradually takes away your body and mind from you is bad enough, imagine it causing you to actively desire to hurt and/or kill your loved ones.
The scene where Blake says “I got cut on glass” and Charlotte tells him that it didn’t look like a glass cut and you just see the denial on Blake’s face. It was honestly one of my favorite moments in the film, because you can interpret the look to mean that Blake knows he’s going to get sick and he was just lying to himself.
I agree, and I think the slow, gradual transformation really conveys the suffering that they're going through. To me, the Horror these characters faced was only partially "When will Dad suddenly lose it and try to kill us?" It was mostly "How much longer are we going to have to go through this?"
"I know werewolves who use subtext, and they're all cowards."
Cool it, Sanchez.
“In the end, Blake was like a candle in the wind… useless.”
@@ashleybrooke2087or you’ll get a knuckle supper!
We were young, we were fit, we did our own stunts
Their characters and their relationships were so underdeveloped. I wish they explored Julia Garner’s resentment and lack of connection with her daughter. Once the arm chewing went down, she should have quarantined herself and her daughter away from him. He sees this as a threat. The daughter learns to trust in her care after maybe trying to get back to the father. We end with the mother telling WolfDaddy that “I’ll always protect her” before having to kill him. The end.
That alone would have gone a long way to better develop things.
Funfact about those wolf shirts! If you remember any of that standard galaxy wolf variant- The original artist put together a lawsuit and sued dozens of manufacturers for stealing his artwork and got enough money to buy himself a home and everything :)
Although the movie focuses on Blake, the more meaningful arc belongs to Charlotte, who chooses to confront an uncomfortable truth rather than hide it, as Blake and his father did. This choice is pivotal. Blake revisits his childhood home because his father’s secrecy left him unaware of the danger. The moment Blake runs off in the basement underscores how his father likely never addressed the incident again, further straining their relationship.
The exposition scene where Charlotte tells her daughter that her dad is sick, often criticized by others, is actually a crucial character moment. In admitting the truth she couldn’t face herself, Charlotte breaks the cycle of generational trauma, achieving what Blake never could.
This film effectively captures the emotional devastation of a family coping with dementia. The stages of grief are subtly woven into the narrative, and the depiction of werewolf vision mirrors the hyper-awareness and disorientation that real patients experience as they lose their cognitive abilities. Blake’s inability to communicate, soiling himself, and gradual loss of identity are haunting parallels. Even his final moments, gasping for air, echo the heartbreaking end stage of dementia, where patients often lose the ability to breathe unaided.
I appreciated this film for the same reasons I loved The Invisible Man. It tells a deeply personal story that transgresses its source material, adding just enough horror, tension, and camp to satisfy genre fans. Those who have experienced similar struggles may relate more emotionally to the story, but I found it profoundly compelling and impactful. Whether this film works for you or not depends on whether you like films that use horror tropes that function primarily as a metaphor.
Nice thoughts!
I'm glad at least one person out there actually understands this film and isn't just dismissing it. I feel that the movie will likely have a deserved critical re-evaluation in about a decade, either when a new audience discovers it or, sadly, when this generation begins to experience just how devastating disease is as friends and family start encountering it. I've lost two loved ones to cancer, and there are moments in the film that I almost couldn't sit through because of how close to reality they felt.
Hum, it's a metaphor for disorders like dementia and other mental illnesses?
This comment made me reevaluate how I felt about Ginger watching Charlotte shoot Blake and watching Blake die. I hated that. I wanted to scream, tell her to look away! I'm rethinking.
That's fine and all...but I feel other movies did this better. The original wolfman for example, is a tale about a man that also experiences what you describe and tries to contain the beast within and retain his humanity. He ultimately goes through each film that he appears wanting to die and to get rid of the burden of lycanthropy. Another tragic tale is An American Werewolf in London, where you also have a man who goes through the torment of losing control to lycanthropy and has to also deal with the ghost of the people he has killed. This makes him lose his sanity and humanity until the last few minutes of the film where he's taken out of his misery from the curse. So respectfully, this remake of wolfman is not the first or last werewolf movie to have themes and context that "transgress" it's genre...whatever that's supposed to mean.
The name of the daughter seems like it has to be a ginger snaps reference
Didn't catch that and I should have because I love Ginger Snaps
@AmandaTheJedi it's a Canadian classic
@@AmandaTheJedi That's crazy, because I really thought your line about how he "snaps at her" was a subtle reference to that movie.
I believe Whanell confirmed that it was deliberate.
I immediately thought that too lol
I can't believe it's by the same director of the invisible man. That movie is so well directed. This Wolf man which I saw in imax laser was more of a TV movie.
Whenever I see such a severe contrast in someone's work in film I cant help wondering if it didnt come down to the people around them getting in their head or executives interfering.
He's always kinda been up and down, like he wrote the first insidious, but also the most recent one. But this movie does feel like someone saying 'you need to spell out exactly what the allegory is because a lot of people will be watching this while on their phones'
I dunno man , half of the movie it was pretty stupid mediocre , like , the scene when he fights the guards was almost comical.
He also wrote and starred in the first Saw movie!!!
The sound design in this was fantastic. A lot of the other stuff was not great
That spider scene 😨 All the tippy taps sounding like thunderclaps. Wow.
I don't hate the concept they came up with but I feel like the werewolf as a metaphor for something else has been done better in other movies. Ginger Snaps (one of my all time favorites) did the concept of turning into a werewolf as an allegory for puberty was done better than this.
I really enjoyed the score I always appreciate a horror movie to have a cinematic score
21:19 the funny thing about lost werewolf movies is that most of them don't have happy endings. In the end the protagonist (if inflicted) always ends up dying and killed by a loved one.
There's a wide variety of werewolf transformations throughout history and folklore, so I can't really be upset about the transformation in this
Interestingly, there’s some werewolf lore in I believe Celtic and Roman mythos that people turn into full wolves for several years! Interesting how this movie has a touch of that.
Yes, first Greek, that's where it originates.
I also picked up some Ovid's Metamorphosis vibes of knowing that you are being turned into the monster
There are also werewolves in either Celtic or Gaelic lore who are completely benevolent! They turn into their half-man-half-wolf forms to be guardians and protect others, they're basically werewolf knights and I want a movie about THEM.
I thought Julia Garner was supposed to be his teen daughter when I first watched the trailer, she looks way younger than him.
She looks like she's in her 30's. IRL 8yrs apart isn't a huge age gap. Its not 18yo and 25/26yo
Thank you! I thought so too!
@@moxiemaxie3543She doesn't. She looks she is in her early 20s at the oldest
I know so many people, myself included, who thought she was the teenage daughter until she said the words “my husband”
I didn't watch the trailer but when I saw the cast I assumed she was either a younger girlfriend or the teenage daughter lmao
Ginger Snaps also had elements of the slow transformation, especially when she's first infected, and how it changes her personality. So that element of it infecting you and you slowly turn into that thing isn't entirely new to the werewolf genre. They at least made an antidote, though it still wasn't a happy ending.
Patiently waiting on your NOSFERATU review!
You are a badass, intelligent, witty and incredibly well spoken! Love your channel!
WerWulf by Robert Eggers next project movie after Nosferatu.
Agreed, didn’t love it, didn’t hate it, very middle of the road…which, apparently, is where wolf men like to stand. 😂
This might be me going crazy while seeing nothing that isn't there, but with how the movie has certain colors to it and hints the Wolf man has two fairy tale stories in it to combined to be a narrative.
First one being Little red riding hood.
Examples:
- Daughter is wearing red and soon the mother at the end of the movie.
- The big bad wolf is the father.
- the sick grandma is the sick grandpa.
- the mother is the huntsmen with how her clothes look and how she puts down the wolf not with a ax but a gun.
the other is the boy who cried wolf.
- The father as a boy saw a wolf, and knew about it as a adult, but instead of talking about it. He refuses to tell his family or people about the wolf as he drives back to his old home. Putting him self and others at risk. Plus Derek also fits into this role as well but in the more canon story of it. A guy who knows about the wolfman tries to tell the family about people getting sick in the woods, which they do not care about until he is eaten.
This wasn’t my favorite movie, but, I thought the performances of Christopher Abbott and Julia Garner were really good.
I kinda hope we get more werewolf movies with more Underworld type werewolves and not just big wolf or furry man. Probably cost and budget issue, but man I miss those types of werewolves.
Underworld really did an amazing job with their werewolves. So much of that I think is owed to their use of practical effects.
There was a movie like that that came out just several week ago called Werewolves and people hated it.
BIG fan of Underworld
@@politefan8141 Did people hate it cuz it had that kind of werewolf, or was it just a bad flick?
@@Taurusus it seems like the latter. If anything, the werewolves are the only thing people give it any credit for.
I can’t wait for the Nosferatu video. I had a great time with that movie, despite my personal tastes leaning toward more complex stories. But I’m happy to watch your thoughts on the Wolfman too, because while this movie had a lot of things I enjoyed, I was a bit disappointed but couldn’t put my finger on exactly why.
I thought from the trailers this was going to be an allegory for abusive father/husband. I think that suits a werewolf myth better than generation trauma.
I think the father was emotionally and verbally abusive
The 2010 Benicio Del Toro Wolfman movie has a bit of this from what I remember.
I completely agree with the idea that an entertainingly terrible movie is more fun than a just alright but forgettable movie. Leave an impression, good or bad, but leave an impression.
It surpried me how much i liked this movie. The emotional bits hit well enough for me, and i was just sucked in by the sound design. They make a lot of creative choices to tell the werewolf story in a way that felt very unique to me. Christopher Abbot delivers such a great performance in the transformation, I was on the edge of my seat for the whole movie. The direction also had some really cool moments, like how the camera moves and the cgi dissolves when switching perspectives in the transformation scenes and how we see the POV of the characters through the scope of the gun in the beginning of the movie. If I had to criticize anything it would be the lighting, everything just looks so washed out. The exposition dialogues are not very good either. But overall, I had so much fun! I should probably go watch other Leigh Whannell movies. Also The Fly.
Definitely watch Invisible Man if you haven't already and the first Saw is genuinely a good time
I don't really count it as a "werewolf" as 1: It's not a furry, but a hairy dude, hence "wolf-man" and 2: it's a disease, why could you turn it on and off?
Producers need to allocate more to the lighting budget. There are way too many movies and shows where it’s too dark to see.
"Please sir, could we buy just one candle for the set?" Says Barty Crouch, lead lighting supervisor.
Between Nosferatu, this, and Guillermo Del Toro's upcoming Frankenstein, I am very excited for all these classic horror tales resurging! Please give me Creature from the Black Lagoon and Jekyll/Hyde !!!
Maybe the real intergenerational trauma were the friends we made along the way!
The existence of a Wolf Man implies a Wolf Boy, a Wolf Woman, a Night Bitch...wait, sorry, I'm just describing the history of authors tinkering with the werewolf myth.
5:02 I only see these as The Chosen shirt after being a Smosh fan for years lol
Impressive...
I'm tired of the darkness in all of the movies. I haven't watched this one and maybe I could even logically defend this darkness, but watching Gladiator 2 I was squinting so much my head started to hurt. Tried to convince myself to relax and just accept that "the scene is barely lit with moonlight or candles or a torch somewhere in the distance" because it's the appropriate vibe for the epoch 😅
The lore of this movie reminds me more of the Wendigo myths, human slowly turns into a ravenous, bloodthirsty wolf like creature, rather than traditional werewolf myths, though there are some that tell of full permanent transformations.
Yeah honestly it does have more wendigo energy than werewolf energy I think you put it well. It doesn't give me werewolf (I do feel like going back and forth is inherent to werewolves as a concept) so I was trying to figure out really what it fit more as and I don't know why wendigo didn't cross my mind. I mean it does lack the key components of wendigo being the cold and intentional cannibalism but at least in VIBES it gives more wendigo.
Welcome back, girl 🖤
The movie Howl did the same thing about it being an infection or disease and I’m not against that. I think it reinvigorates if it’s done well, the genre of werewolf based horror
I'm glad I decides to sit this one out. I would not have enjoyed it. But I very much enjoyed this video.
Amazing work as always.
Yeah I feel like they’re just keep making it obvious and just rushed the plot
Derek Cianfrance was originally set to direct this with Ryan Gosling starring, and in The Place Beyond the Pines, Cianfrance centers the narrative on generational trauma and the legacy of fathers and sons. I think that element of this movie is the only part of his concept that remained. If we got his full vision of the movie I think there would have been far more nuance fleshing that out.
From the way you describe it, it wouldn't surprise me if there's a director's cut that's more subtle, but that there were executives who decided it was too subtle and pushed for changes.
I am TIRED of people expecting their audience to be dumb
I think the thing that i remember the most from this is that none of the characters could "read the damn room" during conversations. I will give them credit though for the creative ways the came up with showing his condition from his condition. Especially when he first wakes up, walks down into the basement, and then shows that he can see in the dark.
So... Nobody noticed Ginger is wearing a red hoodie and Charlotte a lumberjack shirt?
I just got home from seeing this, and I think something's wrong with me because I actually cried a few times during it. 😂 I agree though, there really wasn't enough of the lore given to us and the character development was lacking a bit.
I would be fine with some of the Stating the Obvious that they do if they had just edited it down a bit, like the "becoming the thing that scars your kid" conversation could have been half the length it was, and I'd be fine with it. Or with her asking why daddy is sick, if the mom had just said "I think he got it from his own dad," I wouldn't gripe much.
I will say, I KNEW a bear trap was gonna have to come up at some point and I was irrationally angry about it because I'm just. Tired of them. But! I like that they didn't use it at the moment that I thought they were going to! There's a moment in the beginning where they focus on kid Blake's feet as he's backing up, and I thought "Ugh here we go 🙄" but they faked me out and I like that lol. I didn't even know about the Saw connection (those movies are not my thing) but of course that was the first thing I thought of when the trap came in later and he chewed his leg off.
Overall I thought it was good, I loved the Wolf Vision like you mentioned, and I actually liked the slow transformation. I think it builds dread, which is different than tension, because you know that everything is going to keep getting gradually worse, you just don't know how long it's going to take to end. I didn't think of the dementia analogy, but I think sadly that is a really apt comparison.
Wait so in the trailer he wrote "changing" on the pad? I feel like writing "dying" like he did in the movie works better
I'm wondering if he wrote multiple things at different times and it got cut
@@AmandaTheJediI'd love to see some of the options they didn't use "wolf face man" "ahooo" "send nudes"
His leg is gone after he chews it out of the bear trap. But when he's crawling to the treestand ladder it's clearly not missing. Then after the gun shot its gone again. Otherwise I loved the as a whole. Once im over the ridiculousness, I'm in. Ruthy killed it. I can't wait to see her as the slSilver Surfer. Also those glowy shirts from the 90's...."American Thunder"
Wolf man was the worst kind of mediocre movie; one where it actually had a lot of things going for it, and it just couldn't pull it off.
It's the movie equivalent of "I'm not angry, just disappointed"
I will say, my husband did not realize that's what the movie was about. I told him after the movie and he said, "Oh...well, now I can't see it any other way."
That’s actually sounds like a pretty interesting take. I always enjoy it when the familiar is turned on its head to be something different. Great breakdown as always!
The long drawn out transformation and never turning back reminds me of ginger snaps (best werewolf movie ever)
Yeah, it was ok, and yeah, it was dark a lot, too dark.
You should check out The Beast Within. It gives me similar vibes and I'd be curious to hear what you think about it and the ending.
is that the one from last year with Jon Snow?
@@AmandaTheJedi yeah, I also thought of that movie from your review. It also made me realize how many werewolf movies use lycanthropy as an allegory for generational curses
@AmandaTheJedi Yes! It was interesting, I found it kind of slow but the concept overall is kind of cool. Still not quite sure what I believe "happens" but that's part of the fun I guess lol
The thing that bugged be was doing away with the "if you kill the werewolf that infected you, then you go back to normal" thing. I mean you CANNOT just bring in his dad as the wolfman that infects him and not have that be a factor. Unfortunately this movie does not do that and it feels like they lost the plot towards the end because of it.
This isn't the first time we've seen this kind of werewolf. Off the top of my head, Ginger Snaps and The Lord of Loss both did it decades ago
Ginger Snaps still felt more traditional in the transformation and infection even though it was permanent but yes that’s one of my favorites! I should have clarified that I meant more for wolf man style lore
Ginger? A reference to Ginger Snaps?
I love any film with Werewolves just cuz they're my fave Supernatural Creatures. This one was okay? Not as fun as some others I've watched but it was decent lol
1:50 I've seen people questioning the premise and all that trying to say that it's not a werewolf Even if it's not supernatural in this movie it still werewolf More akin to werewolves of the underworld series where once you turn you're stuck like that you have no humanity essentially left You're running on instinct and animal urges which I actually really enjoyed and I really enjoyed how we saw him slowly turning throughout his sense is going and changing I just wish they did a little more with the premise maybe set up the ending so we could have it open for a sequel or a wider universe like maybe the government discovers the body and starts investigating it or something like that
As far as the werewolf infection being a process and being permanent, I'm going to have to say Ginger snaps did it a million times better.
I would have loved this if it wasn’t SO heavy handed and the wolf man looked less like a rat
The looking in to psychologically of transforming is dope, I love the color and design choices as his mind warps. Cool ideas but man are they wasted on this film.
That's my problem with so many werewolf movies lol. I'm like "I don't know what that is but it's not a man wolf." 90% I'm like "That's just a hairy man who needs a dentist" or "I don't know what that is but that is neither man nor wolf, you've missed both briefs."
@ Right?? How hard is it to get a werewolf down when it’s been done well before! I can forgive a wonky design for a good movie but man this one really misses and it makes that design REALLY stand out with how awful it is
You know that unwritten rule "Don't remind your audience of a better movie they could be watching instead of yours"?
They just had to name the daughter after potentially the best werewolf film every made...
It's so unfair Leigh didn't credit Ginger Snaps, especially since he named the daughter Ginger!! 😂
This is internal conflict of two sides and urges slowly eating them. This will be a big hangover..... and a lost foot and fingers....
Loved your thoughts! I’m not much a movie buff or horror movie buff, but it was cheap night and popcorn was on for $5. I went in expecting an absolutely ridiculous movie, and I was surprised how much I enjoyed it for a werewolf movie. But after listening to your thoughts and reading some comments, it definitely could have been better.
I also found parts VERY dark. As you said, it takes away from the tension and takes you out of the movie. There was also no real fear/exploration about where the werewolf was that but the dad.
Niche reference here, but the dad at the beginning is Joel from Parenthood??? I always thought he was such a hot dad but not so much in this one😂
2:49 I will say I didn't like the fact that you could tell what the twist was going to be 10 minutes into the movie so throughout the entirety of the movie when we see Blake is an adult and they're getting to the town or the farmhouse I'm just sitting here thinking to myself this person is definitely the werewolf that just scratched Blake It was such an obvious twist coming that I just had that in the back of my head the entirety of the movie until it happened
That title is exactly it! The movie’s okay, but it thinks it’s way better than it is.
They should have given him a big dish of beef chow mein from Lee Ho Fook's. It's the cure all for lycanthropy.
I can never not laugh when I hear this song, thank you for this comment 😆
I saw this movie at my Regal’s IMAX theater. Even in the really dark scenes, you could see what was going on. Like in a scene where they are in the basement, Blake is standing in the dark and his wife can’t see him. However, I could see him standing there. I guess it depends on the theater you go to? 🤷🏼♀️ I really enjoyed this movie. I thought the intense scenes were well done and I really liked the use of color that was used.
I was actually surprised by this film, i thought i was gonna hate it, there was way too much backlash. I liked the angles the director went with.
(squinting at dark screen) You can see the angles?
I just want to know if the wolf man actually looks like that ugly goblin costume they had during Universals Halloween Horror Nights.
Not really
I didn't like the Wolfman design in this it didn't look like a werewolf more like a zombie
The fact that he LOST hair rather than gaining it bewilders me.
@@HiddenDarkHMmore importantly, hairless werewolves HAVE looked good and frightening before, like on the Quarry and Harry Potter. But because he looks so much like a person and not at all like an animal, the loss of hair took me out of the movie even more
The Ginger/Ginger Snaps thing was cool too.
I fear it’s one of my favorites but the vibes of this movie were so different I didn’t even make the obvious connection
I like to think that the reason that his Dad lived such a long life without finding and/or becoming wolfie was because that wasn't og wolfie's territory. Og wolfie coming near his house when his son saw him was just chance. But when papa wolfie gets turned, that's because after all the years of going out to search for og wolfie he finally gets scratched. But the reason the son meets papa wolfie immediately upon returning is because papa wolfie still remembers that that's his home. He's just hanging out near his house and eats anyone who comes near.
It is for sure a movie released in January.
The werewolf changing without ever changing back happened in Ginger Snaps as well
Ginger is totally a call back to Ginger Snaps. The best and underated teen girl coming of age story!
if there's one thing adult life has taught me it's that you should NEVER overestimate the moviegoing public's intelligence, because some of them just don't have any. i can't tell you how many times i've heard people complain about how confused they were by something the movie practically spelled out for them.
This movie would have emotionally destroyed me and also had me frustrated. When they hold your hand with dialogue it can get annoying.
Ohh, this sounds a lot more fun than the trailer led me to believe! I might prefer to watch it after a few drinks, but still.
Looking forward to the Nosferatu video, it was such a... *movie* (I mean that as a compliment)!
5:52 No, it wasn’t just your theater! It was SO dark at some points toward the end when it really didn’t need to be THAT dark. Movies/TV have been so bad with this in the last decade or so… The scene doesn’t have to be completely black for the audience to know it’s really dark 😭
I love the original Lon Chaney wolfman and was actually excited for this movie. I think the slow transformation is a good idea of transferring the originals tragedy to this story. It’s a shame the movie couldn’t come together to do what it needed.
So fun personal story, I didn't see the original Lon Chaney Wolfman until several years later but I did see Abbot and Costello Meet Frankenstein when I was VERY young, like I think 7 or 8 which has Lon Chaney Jr. playing The Wolfman. That movie gave me night terrors for YEARS. There's one scene in particular where Costello is tied down to a table and Talbot is rescuing him but sees the moon and transforms while standing right over him while this HELLISH musical score is playing and that scene lives rent-free in my brain as an adult, even just thinking about it makes the hair on my arms stand up and puts my body in Flight mode. And I mean I had full-on wake up screaming and crying night terrors. I had almost nightly nightmares about him for years. When my father (physically) forced me to watch The Wolfman a couple years later because he thought it was funny how scared I was, I cried through most of the movie. I adore werewolves, they're my favorite fantasy creature, but the original wolfman I can't watch even at 33 and even just seeing a picture, even just the flashes in this video Amanda showed made me flinch and close my eyes. It's wild how such a simple and comparatively not scary depiction can cause such a visceral reaction.
As someone who missed the whole opening scene of the hiker it definitely made the movie more interesting
The night vision pupils do look pretty cool.
I actually really liked this movie. But I do feel that Julia Garner was extremely miscast and had an actress who had better chemistry with Abbott (like Margaret Qualley or Olivia Cooke or Mia Wasilowska) this movie would’ve hit so much harder. Actually, I feel like if the mom wasn’t in the movie, this movie might’ve been better and hit way harder. But Julia Gardner just had no emotion except when she was scared or when she was shouting at Blake. I didn’t buy her loving her kid or Blake. I bought her irritation. And that was it and it brought it down.
Abbott and his relationship with his daughter was really well done I thought. THAT said, I think Ginger may have not read his mind at the end though. 😂 He didn’t seem thrilled by the idea of “ending it”.
I think the lack of chemistry helped early on when they're not supposed to be getting along but there wasn't enough time to build them back up
@@AmandaTheJedi I agree. I wish that the scene where she’s saying he’s her best friend, she got closer to him, or was trying to comfort him or something. It might’ve just been poor direction. If The Fly was inspiration for this film, I think Whannell should’ve prioritized Abbott’s and Garner’s chemistry just as much as the father/daughter relationship.
There's this horror movie called "mind body spirit" on shudder and I think it's absurd and funny enough to be worth giving it a watch. It feels like it'd be right up your alley
The dialogue is clunky, for sure, but I think the movie had enough cool ideas and visuals to make up for it. Maybe not one of my favs, but I don't feel like my time or money were wasted. I'm pleased with it.
Tbh, I found it oddly relatable? I too deal with stress by mostly freezing and wide eyed staring, so I started to put myself in Charlotte's shoes and think "Oh shit, what would I even do in that situation?".
Every few minutes, I'd think "is that enough of a threat? would I bail there? He was a fine a few minutes before, does that earn him some grace?". You can tell that she doesn't want to immediately forsake him, but you can see her doing calculations in her head the whole time, trying to figure out when enough is enough and she needs to get away for their own safety.
I Honestly felt like this movie had a hidden meaning that i automatically resonated with. I had an abusive father and I always told myself that when I have kids I’d never treat them the same way. When you have a troubled relationship with your father, it’s very easy to pick up on those bad habits and become the same “monster” that he was. This might be obvious to some but I really had to stop and think after seeing the movie
Nosferatu was so good that I went to see it twice. I never do that.
Please do interview with the vampire, it’s just so good!!
I would prefer the 2010 Benecio Del Toro Wolfman movie. It won Rick Baker his 7th and final Oscar for Best Make-up.
I know I saw it but I have no memory of that movie other than it being disappointing
3:14, Ironically, this is the second movie to come out recently where a father and husband living in the woods and becoming a werewolf was used as an allegory.
The Beast Within, starring Kit Harrington, goes more into the beast form being an allegory for him being abusive and inheriting negative traits from men in his own family, but still, 5:16, the dad here being portrayed as far more of a victim of his condition and, before that, being an under-appreciated, struggling parent makes it more tragic (21:07, even if *this* being essentially what the film boils down to is darkly hilarious).
This is the second werewolf movie I've seen about generational trauma. The first was the beast within starring kit harington and I think wolf man does a better job. Sure the dialogue is off in places and eludes to deeper lore but never does anything with them, kinda like the Kristen Stewart movie underwater, but I enjoyed watching wolf man whilst the beast within had too many slow moments and dream sequences. It definitely did show don't tell better than wolf man but it got repetitive about the curse being an allegory for generational trauma just the same. The main difference between these two is wolf man fully commuts to the monster being real whereas the best within makes you question that for a bit but not enough to an extent where the ending has payoff. I liked wolf man despite its flaws and its definitely making me realize I need to educate myself on exposition cause I'm not catching it the same way others are catching it. I caught it in the m knight movie old but I missed it in the last airbender show and percy Jackson so yeah time for some educating. Also I didn't thihk showing the dad's tattoo was all that bad, the curse doesn't reverse at death or when the moon is obscured so unless his clothes say his name I would have only assumed it was him and not fully known.
Ngl i would have loved if the movie was about the dad and son hunting the wolf