Of course you can. Thing is, I never use healing items in RPGs myself. Why use items that cost GP when you can simply use healing magic or a healing skill... That or simply heal at one of the free healing/save points. In games where there is free healing, why waste money on inns? Anyway, in FF7, always having played this way I didn't use materia because since I was lazy I found it to cumbersome to learn... and I didn't want to use items because their healing properties sucked and cost money. So instead I grinded in the game and used inns to heal myself. It was only when I was about to face off against the last Dungeons that became interested in the materia since it seemed interesting... but by then there was no point in learning how it worked since the game was almost over and I didn't need it in order to win. So it was only after I had beaten the game and I started playing it to find all hidden secrets I had missed that I started using materia.
It is sad how the remakes were so badly handled. Why do so many game developers think it is a good idea to remove and change so many things in classic games that people wanted remakes of? The people that wanted the remake did NOT want a new changed game! They just wanted the old game but with better graphics and maybe some extra new bonus dungeons that didn't affect the actual game story. Like Ruby Weapon but more hidden and 100x more difficult to beat. But instead they give us crap nobody asked for.
If you name Aerith GONNA DIE then when you meet Hojo in Costa Del Sol then when he forgets her name she'll yell "I'm GONNA DIE, the least you can do is remember my name." which I find to be hilarious personally. I originally did this on my second play through because I was bitter about it, then that made it amazing to me. XD
Man... How dare you spoil a game from decades ago a year ago... Geesh... Lol Also, if you even watch this video, primal even covers this part of the story so really there are no spoilers here. Not sure if some of these comments are a joke or not, but it is really hard to claim something from over 20 years ago as a spoiler at this point...
@@michaelhanson5773 believe me though. Even if the game is over 20 years old a spoiler is still spoiler. I just played it for the first time, and the spoilers made me feel nothing when she died. The spoiler ruined the game for me.
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Biggest error I saw during the assault on Shinra arc, is that once you reach Wall Market, you can buy Hypers, allowing you to put I DIE D: in a fury status (usable out of battle and is persistent unless cured), which would have made the tower easier, because. Her limits would charge almost twice as fast.
Did you know that there is a 2nd Ribbon you can get without Morph? One of the bright blue ice caves has a hidden path if you try walking downwards. Yes yes.
I Actually did this challenge last year and mained Red XIII and Yuffie so i could have party haste with heal, But yeah i could see how Barret would do a lot in it too.
Fun fact: You can make it across the swamp without doing the save and reload glitch. You just have to time it perfectly. The snake needs to start a rebound it the opposite direction of you. If done correctly you will make it across with .2 seconds to spare.
I’m confused. At the Specimen boss fight in Shinra, grinding should’ve been free; you can fight enemies on the model Midgar floor, and the gym floor should have a free inn unless I’m misremembering.
necroing here I know, I have to assume the reason he didn't would be because it takes all the challenge out of it early game, it wouldn't be half as interesting if he grinding to 50 before leaving Midgard. @@BBee13
When I did this I grinded out to level 30 odd on cloud and barret in the reactor as you get enough potions to heal them outside battle endlessly (you can get to lvl 99 if you're masochist enough) this set me up for the rest of the game
NGPlus just did a Limits Only run and he actually needed Mindblow to prevent Rapps from using Aero3. I was amazed, but it did in fact have a critical use.
Mate, you’re built different hey. You just keep throwing yourself into the pits of hell so the rest of us don’t have to. Equal parts courageous as it is insane. All for the love of the game and of course, us..your fans. Much respect mate 🤙. Love the content. Always interesting to watch
My late dad, who played FF7 for many years on and off, like 20 yrs or something, would play no materia runs, or speedruns, to make the game more interesting. Sadly we don't have any recorded footage of it. No materia is possible, but requires lotsa EXP grinding and items farming - monsters at the Wutai continent drop a helluva lot X-Potion and Bolt Plumes and Fire Veils for instance. Plus, with no materia you can equip no slot weapons found at the Temple of Ancients, which are considerably strong. Try the no materia run for size! One thing to remember is to take Barret, Yuffie or Vincent, since they got long range weapons and some enemies, like Ultima Weapon, can only be damaged by such.
For a second there I thought you banned items outside of battle lol, I was wondering how on earth that would be possible without literally grinding to level 99 before leaving midgar and spamming inns
@@JoshRosario310 Yeah I was thinking of the dicktree situation. But that grind is beyond even primal's insanity. And for good reason - there's primal grinds, and then there's verifiable insanity. Getting to L99 before leaving midgar requires the latter.
You actually like yuffie? I've never used her ever. But then again I never could beat the very last version of sephiroth. I even had kotr on every player and maxed out gear
You don't need to swap parties on bizarro sephiroth. Did it many times as a kid and just kept going main party. Not easy since he has all of his spells though.
12:17 on my first play through of the game didn’t learn how to use materia so I had to grind till level 36 to beat the midgar zolom. I did let myself use healing items though so I spent all my money in hi-potions.
I estimate the break in the playthrough happened around the return to Midgar since at that point the script stops referring to the characters by their renames.
I’m guessing yes because you can be in fury heal with yuffie use omnislash and anger max and high wind and equip things like sprint shoes those barriers and ribbons on top of being able to equip things like tifa with the power soul and the cursed ring on top of being able to grind sources to just dodge every attack with speed and luck ... now I wanna do this run myself lol
There are a few weapons in the game that could have helped tremendously. Powersoul/master fist + cursed ring on Tifa is a low level/ speedrun stapple, with her lvl4 limit you one shot most bosses even at low level. And then you have the weapons where your attack is doubled or tripled when you have respectively 1 or 2 characters dead. The yoshiyuki for cloud and the princess guard for Aerith. Did you equip the missing score on Barret at the end? That the only explanation for the low damage since the missing score's attack power depend on the exp of the equipped materias. No materia on the weapon and armor = 1 atk. The damage formula uses the character level twice as a multiplier so going from lvl 70 to 90 increases the damage by 65% (actually more than that since strength also increases when you level up).
i just didnt want to cheese with tifa so i didnt go for that route, as for missing score, yes i had it on and the reason for that is the damage calculation for AP is scuffed (or just flat out ignored) for limit breaks, and i had planned to rely on them for the damage so i decided to keep it on since the damage increase over his 2nd best was still pretty major when using limits
I didn't even after the Power Soul/Master fist + cursed ring with a LV 65 Tifa even do 3000 per hit while still having HER use Knights of the round for 5000 to 6000 x13 hits.
I thought you'd be doing more limit jumping than you did. Aries(th)'s if I recall correctly Seal Evil stops not only the safe boss in Nibelheim but the Demon Wall for pretty much the entire battle. Then again it might be different for an attack only run.
Bloodfest, the move capable of dealing more damage to a single target than omnislash itself - if that single target is the only one left alive that is. Yuffie is boss
I HAD BOTH do CRAP for damage even at lv 65 I still barely had Omnislash do 2500 to 3000 per hit and I had Blood Fest/Doom of the Living barely top 500 to 1000 damage PER hit.
Except that CRAP for damage I had Yuffie do IS with the Conformer equipped I still had it barely do 500 per hit to EMERALD weapon vs KoTR STILL doing over 5000 x13 hits at lv 65.\ I still did that crap per Omnislash hits to Emerald weapon at full 9999 HP lv 65 and Cloud's Ultimate weapon equipped and still had KoTR do 5000 to 6000 x13 hits to bosses when I had Cloud summon it. So yes I HAD NOTHING outdamage KoTR at all.
Look at this guy, acting like lvl 65 is the lvl cap and that you can't possibly be any stronger than that, he probably doesn't understand that materia affects your stats too... but he for sure can't understand the words that i wrote down
It isn't but after using KoTR against Emerald/Ruby weapon I only hit lv 70 and did NOT LV all the way up to LV 99 at all. EVEN with NO materia that decreases Str besides KoTR used since HP and MP plus HP absorb and Mime don't increase/decrease Str I still only had Doom of the Living at my end of game lvs 65 to lv 70 barely top 500 damage to ANYTHING with the Conformer equipped including against Emerald/Ruby weapon. BUT NOTHING would outdamage a W summoned KoTR even if all 26 Knights via W summoning it ONLY did 5000 to 6000 per Knight. So I would NEVER NOT fight Carry armor even WITH the Infinite HP/MP/Limit cheat ON unless you KoTR it to death.
I think you took a break between the hydra and Fire Genova, around 18:05 Just going through your vids while waiting for the next FF12 randomiser video XD
Watched nearly every play through you have. Haven't seen a new threat mod for this game I thibk you would enjoy it I've just started it myself 12 hours just on disk 1 make sure choose the b option aswell it's same game bit different events happen its so much fun
Do you have any vids about FF5? It's one of my guilty pleasures, and my go to drunk solo game. Also you should absolutely try Lufia the legend returns, one of my absolute favorite rpgs. Either way your dedication is insane and I love your vids!
Not many know- for the final Sephiroth battle, you can flick a booger at him and he will die. It's in the programming whatever you choose to do, he will perish regardless. Stand there with your thumb in your ass, grab a beer, do a few jumping jacks, whatever- he will kick the bucket (even if your attack "misses", which i have never seen) Ofc, Omnislash works too.
I Did a no Materia No Grinding and No Exploits "including Slots" run Went well, Technically is completed, But My completion mark was Emerald.. Which at level 55 is just not possible especially with my lack of powerful equipment and level 1 limits. Which was a bit sad for me as technically its my first failed run
with no grinding id love to know how you got past shizo and managed to out damage bizaro's healing since you also say lack of powerful equipment, so that leads me to believe no ultimate weapons
@@Primalliquid92 Lack of powerful equipment meant Zidrich and .... i actually can't remember what the other high level stealable equipment is. i had Yuffies conformer, and that was the only ultimate weapon i had,... Shizo was no problem for me. Elemental absorbing equipment and focused down 1 head at a time. I figured it might be a difficulty spike boss but it was not for me. Bizzaro took forever -.- but yeah Conformer does the job, Actually was Semi responsible for the end of me at one point because he used Heartless angel just before he died and 2 others were poisoned, so i went in to safer with yuffie at 1hp. But with a combination of Clear tranquil and Lunatic High i had the healing and defence i needed as well as haste that with Fury is how i cleared most of the game what you said though, about it being harder in certain places than you thought it would be. and easier in others. i had the same feeling. It was not as hard a run as i thought it would be. But some of the Difficulty spikes far outweighed what i thought they would be. Sorry for the essay
If you were interested. my current Final Party for attempting Emerald is. Level 55 Cloud. Limit Level 2, Ultima Weapon. Mystile. Ribbon. 4331 hp. Level 52 Yuffie. Limit Level 1 Conformer. Imperial Guard. No acc currently 3556 hp Level 52 Red 13. Limit Level 1 Limited moon. Bolt Armlet. No acc currently and 4069 hp. That is what i am mostly locked in to now as everything else would be grinding by my parameters
Final Fantasy VII is the only one that's this easy. VI and VIII undeniably require a bit more strategy and planning. And even then, this no materia no items run was a severe handicap that caused a lot of game overs that wouldn't happen if you use materia or items. VII suffers from being too easy at times but it's not completely mindless.
yo Mr. liquid big fan of your channel i just started recording this same challenge of no Materia, was dumb and didnt check if anyone posted a vid on it is it okay if still do it and credit u??
Actually even in the FIRST battle Cloud still starts the game WITH Bolt usable so a materia only run would be too easy sure you can't use items in battle but you don't NEED items in order to use Knights of the round on every boss in game starting with Carry armor itself.
Very nice, good job with the challenge! I would be interested if you can beat the game with only limit breaks. No normal attacks, no materia, no items, just limit breaks. Is that possible?
This is pretty incredible 😲 I’m almost at the end of an Initial Equip/No Materia/No Accesories/Item Only challenge, but using items in battle. With only a limited number of elixirs, Magic Pots are off the cards for grinding. Did you seriously get Cloud to L99 outside Mideel? 10 months sounds about right…
Funny theory, Aerith is actually selling the flower you really wanted. It seem there is a correlation with flower and prostitution in japan. Plus how would someone live off selling a single flower basket
I was going to say that you failed the challenge because I DIE D: used the White Materia, but I'll let it slide because she wasn't technically in the party.
So, uh, about how I Die D:, well, died in that sewer boss fight... you put her in the back row. That boss only uses its physical attack on party members who are in the back row, and since I Die D: was the only one in the back row, she was the only available target for those physical strikes.
Fun fact! nobody has guessed the correct time i dropped and repicked up the challenge yet! will you get it right?
All Iknow is Barret is named twitter and it made me think of black twitter and I started laughing
You dropped at carry armor
*at least. Not "atleast". But otherwise, sweet content
Of course you can. Thing is, I never use healing items in RPGs myself. Why use items that cost GP when you can simply use healing magic or a healing skill... That or simply heal at one of the free healing/save points. In games where there is free healing, why waste money on inns?
Anyway, in FF7, always having played this way I didn't use materia because since I was lazy I found it to cumbersome to learn... and I didn't want to use items because their healing properties sucked and cost money.
So instead I grinded in the game and used inns to heal myself. It was only when I was about to face off against the last Dungeons that became interested in the materia since it seemed interesting... but by then there was no point in learning how it worked since the game was almost over and I didn't need it in order to win.
So it was only after I had beaten the game and I started playing it to find all hidden secrets I had missed that I started using materia.
It is sad how the remakes were so badly handled. Why do so many game developers think it is a good idea to remove and change so many things in classic games that people wanted remakes of?
The people that wanted the remake did NOT want a new changed game! They just wanted the old game but with better graphics and maybe some extra new bonus dungeons that didn't affect the actual game story.
Like Ruby Weapon but more hidden and 100x more difficult to beat.
But instead they give us crap nobody asked for.
If you name Aerith GONNA DIE then when you meet Hojo in Costa Del Sol then when he forgets her name she'll yell "I'm GONNA DIE, the least you can do is remember my name." which I find to be hilarious personally.
I originally did this on my second play through because I was bitter about it, then that made it amazing to me. XD
Dude spoilers!
Wait Aerith dies? WTF!!!
Lol
Man... How dare you spoil a game from decades ago a year ago... Geesh... Lol
Also, if you even watch this video, primal even covers this part of the story so really there are no spoilers here. Not sure if some of these comments are a joke or not, but it is really hard to claim something from over 20 years ago as a spoiler at this point...
@@michaelhanson5773 believe me though. Even if the game is over 20 years old a spoiler is still spoiler. I just played it for the first time, and the spoilers made me feel nothing when she died. The spoiler ruined the game for me.
I love it how in the 3rd act you stopped calling your characters Subscribe, Twitter and Flatty, casually switching to their default names.
So this is essentially an attack only run without any buffing materia. Whew that's rough. Awesome run!
Pray for those lucky crits! lol (and without luck materia - but yes luck sources since they're out of battle items)
I like to play FF games as primarily attack only - but no buffs - ugh
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No k
No ko
Biggest error I saw during the assault on Shinra arc, is that once you reach Wall Market, you can buy Hypers, allowing you to put I DIE D: in a fury status (usable out of battle and is persistent unless cured), which would have made the tower easier, because. Her limits would charge almost twice as fast.
Man I wish I could count how fast I click the notifications for your stuff. Thanks for all your work bud.
I appreciate that!
Did you know that there is a 2nd Ribbon you can get without Morph? One of the bright blue ice caves has a hidden path if you try walking downwards. Yes yes.
I found this 2nd ribbon on my own just a few years ago. I about pooped my pants. Was really cool.
Hmm... I don't remember this at all. Guess I'm gonna have to try another playthrough. 😅
Thou art correct! 1st one is in the Temple of the Ancients, where you have to go through the correct door(5, or 'V') in the "Clock Room".
There are 3!😊
@@CASPB third one from speed square prizes?
All you need is Tifa, curse ring, and powersoul weapon.
@Vegesther sure. Knights of the round takes a long time.
@Vegesther Jesus you're like a broken record.
@Vegesther but he's... Speaking in reference to this no materia challenge. I'm fairly sure KotR counts as materia.
I Actually did this challenge last year and mained Red XIII and Yuffie so i could have party haste with heal, But yeah i could see how Barret would do a lot in it too.
I thought of this too.
Boobs: "Did you fight with Twitter?"
Subscribe: "Yeah", "got canceled too"
Boobs: "Should have known"
gotta love the ol cancel culture
This helped me relax after an intensive surgery. You genuinley help folks even if its not your direct intention. Keep up the great work man.
Man i dont remember watching this at all. Those meds must had me fucked up
Great work! Keep it up, love these challenge videos.
Fun fact: You can make it across the swamp without doing the save and reload glitch. You just have to time it perfectly. The snake needs to start a rebound it the opposite direction of you. If done correctly you will make it across with .2 seconds to spare.
I did this unknowingly the first time I played lol
I’m confused. At the Specimen boss fight in Shinra, grinding should’ve been free; you can fight enemies on the model Midgar floor, and the gym floor should have a free inn unless I’m misremembering.
It has a save point and free inn/rest area in the gym.
Yeah I’m surprised he didn’t know that
necroing here I know, I have to assume the reason he didn't would be because it takes all the challenge out of it early game, it wouldn't be half as interesting if he grinding to 50 before leaving Midgard. @@BBee13
Primal liquid is at it again what beast keep up the insane challenges bro
When I did this I grinded out to level 30 odd on cloud and barret in the reactor as you get enough potions to heal them outside battle endlessly (you can get to lvl 99 if you're masochist enough) this set me up for the rest of the game
I love that this run revolves around Yuffie. Always been my favorite.
Thanks for the content encourage me to try this run myself. Gonna start it tonight I think will keep ya posted on progress
I can't think of a single encounter where Mindblow is useful
I think square was trying to be ironic with the naming of that limit (mindblowingly useless)
NGPlus just did a Limits Only run and he actually needed Mindblow to prevent Rapps from using Aero3. I was amazed, but it did in fact have a critical use.
Anybody who has ap duh are u dumb
Seriously 😂😅🤦 ur dumb 😂😅
Edge case, but it can be used to prevent Midgar Zolom from casting beta
Yes time to get comfy.
Thanks for your hard work ace, always appreciate these vids.
These videos are very interesting. I love these challenges makes you think differently about playing
What a legend, Primal. Hope you feel better soon!
thank you man, glad you enjoyed
Mate, you’re built different hey. You just keep throwing yourself into the pits of hell so the rest of us don’t have to. Equal parts courageous as it is insane. All for the love of the game and of course, us..your fans. Much respect mate 🤙. Love the content. Always interesting to watch
Well said
4:36 "Did you fight with Twitter?" man, I feel that.
bloody twitter man
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR SO LONG FOR A NEW LIQUID VIDEO!
i release videos daily :(
@@Primalliquid92 nonono ! i meant a overpowered video OR challenge run !
"Oh we have a full game?"
TH-cam immediately playing an ad: perhaps
the suspense huh
Reno used to wreck my team because why would I attack my own team mates… absolutely floored when I learned the trick
You work so fuckin hard primal, we love ya.
Thank you! enjoy the video
love the naming sense 😸and i think you stopped just after the ultimate weapon dreading the carry armour 💀
not quite at ultima
My late dad, who played FF7 for many years on and off, like 20 yrs or something, would play no materia runs, or speedruns, to make the game more interesting. Sadly we don't have any recorded footage of it.
No materia is possible, but requires lotsa EXP grinding and items farming - monsters at the Wutai continent drop a helluva lot X-Potion and Bolt Plumes and Fire Veils for instance. Plus, with no materia you can equip no slot weapons found at the Temple of Ancients, which are considerably strong.
Try the no materia run for size!
One thing to remember is to take Barret, Yuffie or Vincent, since they got long range weapons and some enemies, like Ultima Weapon, can only be damaged by such.
Love your dedication to the grind! 😁
For a second there I thought you banned items outside of battle lol, I was wondering how on earth that would be possible without literally grinding to level 99 before leaving midgar and spamming inns
i had considered the total ban of items but then the overall lack of healing spots would have made it virtually impossible to get anywhere
#dicktree
@@JoshRosario310 Yeah I was thinking of the dicktree situation. But that grind is beyond even primal's insanity. And for good reason - there's primal grinds, and then there's verifiable insanity. Getting to L99 before leaving midgar requires the latter.
@@od1401 grind defeats the purpose of a challenge
'No Materia' Oh yeah, that's a classic challenge run, suprised Primal is doing it 'And no items' Oh.... yeah, that's different
gotta add in these little twists
@@Primalliquid92 Hell yeah!
LLNMIENA - low level, no materia, initial equipment, no accessories is possible
@@leeswinburn yea because of item abuse and using cait sith slots
You actually like yuffie? I've never used her ever. But then again I never could beat the very last version of sephiroth. I even had kotr on every player and maxed out gear
2024 and still playing ff7. Love these vids. Just subscribed!
Commenting on and liking old videos for the algorithm 🤘🏻
Love the FF content! Keep them coming
How have I missed this release? I work too much lol, this will be a lovely lay down and relax vid on my day off xD
Hope you enjoy!
The run didn't die at carry armor??? I guess I'm not watching Clabe.
You slipped and called her Tifa at the fire Genova :)
My favourite game ever.
Diamond weapon, ultima weapon and carry armour possibly the hardest bosses in this challenge imo
You don't need to swap parties on bizarro sephiroth. Did it many times as a kid and just kept going main party. Not easy since he has all of his spells though.
12:17 on my first play through of the game didn’t learn how to use materia so I had to grind till level 36 to beat the midgar zolom. I did let myself use healing items though so I spent all my money in hi-potions.
I estimate the break in the playthrough happened around the return to Midgar since at that point the script stops referring to the characters by their renames.
close!
You are CRAZY my dude.
In a good way
Great vid a lot of effort into this :)
I did not realise you were doing all these challenges! Cant wait to binge thesee
yea challenge runs are fun and people like that
@@Primalliquid92 as long as your enjoying doing them. I love the grind as much as the next man but can it burn you out. Keep doing you, man
hell yeah primal liquid my favorite final fantasy creator. all the best challenge runs for the best game series of all time
:)
Man the horn was real during this run. What anime were you watching when going up the stairs?
I’m guessing yes because you can be in fury heal with yuffie use omnislash and anger max and high wind and equip things like sprint shoes those barriers and ribbons on top of being able to equip things like tifa with the power soul and the cursed ring on top of being able to grind sources to just dodge every attack with speed and luck ... now I wanna do this run myself lol
Yes to everything except grinding sources since that requires Morph materia, as no farmable enemies drop sources.
@@clerpington_the_fifth then why do I remember grinding Sources from enemies in that submarine? Maybe I'm misremembering.
4:30 “did you fight with twitter” yeah I’m pretty sure everyone does
"Did you fight with Twitter?" had me rolling
Another great video!
There are a few weapons in the game that could have helped tremendously.
Powersoul/master fist + cursed ring on Tifa is a low level/ speedrun stapple, with her lvl4 limit you one shot most bosses even at low level.
And then you have the weapons where your attack is doubled or tripled when you have respectively 1 or 2 characters dead. The yoshiyuki for cloud and the princess guard for Aerith.
Did you equip the missing score on Barret at the end? That the only explanation for the low damage since the missing score's attack power depend on the exp of the equipped materias. No materia on the weapon and armor = 1 atk.
The damage formula uses the character level twice as a multiplier so going from lvl 70 to 90 increases the damage by 65% (actually more than that since strength also increases when you level up).
i just didnt want to cheese with tifa so i didnt go for that route, as for missing score, yes i had it on and the reason for that is the damage calculation for AP is scuffed (or just flat out ignored) for limit breaks, and i had planned to rely on them for the damage so i decided to keep it on since the damage increase over his 2nd best was still pretty major when using limits
I didn't even after the Power Soul/Master fist + cursed ring with a LV 65 Tifa even do 3000 per hit while still having HER use Knights of the round for 5000 to 6000 x13 hits.
Love your channel man!
Glad you enjoy it!
Dude, I am impressed. You are quite the player.
Looking forward to this run enjoying watching your vids 👍
Hope you enjoy it!
loving these vids lol. those names though :p
Favorite challenge run content is back, time for another 30min banger!~
“Did you fight with Twitter?”
*Yes*
didnt play ff7 but love your work! bravo zulu
I thought you'd be doing more limit jumping than you did. Aries(th)'s if I recall correctly Seal Evil stops not only the safe boss in Nibelheim but the Demon Wall for pretty much the entire battle. Then again it might be different for an attack only run.
Dude this was gunna be my challenge run. I wanted to see if this was possible.
This dude DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH SUBS OR VIEWS. This is a great channel and the dude deserves more
Bloodfest, the move capable of dealing more damage to a single target than omnislash itself - if that single target is the only one left alive that is. Yuffie is boss
I HAD BOTH do CRAP for damage even at lv 65 I still barely had Omnislash do 2500 to 3000 per hit and I had Blood Fest/Doom of the Living barely top 500 to 1000 damage PER hit.
@@veghesther3204 You need to try harder. lmao
Except that CRAP for damage I had Yuffie do IS with the Conformer equipped I still had it barely do 500 per hit to EMERALD weapon vs KoTR STILL doing over 5000 x13 hits at lv 65.\
I still did that crap per Omnislash hits to Emerald weapon at full 9999 HP lv 65 and Cloud's Ultimate weapon equipped and still had KoTR do 5000 to 6000 x13 hits to bosses when I had Cloud summon it.
So yes I HAD NOTHING outdamage KoTR at all.
Look at this guy, acting like lvl 65 is the lvl cap and that you can't possibly be any stronger than that, he probably doesn't understand that materia affects your stats too... but he for sure can't understand the words that i wrote down
It isn't but after using KoTR against Emerald/Ruby weapon I only hit lv 70 and did NOT LV all the way up to LV 99 at all.
EVEN with NO materia that decreases Str besides KoTR used since HP and MP plus HP absorb and Mime don't increase/decrease Str I still only had Doom of the Living at my end of game lvs 65 to lv 70 barely top 500 damage to ANYTHING with the Conformer equipped including against Emerald/Ruby weapon.
BUT NOTHING would outdamage a W summoned KoTR even if all 26 Knights via W summoning it ONLY did 5000 to 6000 per Knight.
So I would NEVER NOT fight Carry armor even WITH the Infinite HP/MP/Limit cheat ON unless you KoTR it to death.
I think you took a break between the hydra and Fire Genova, around 18:05
Just going through your vids while waiting for the next FF12 randomiser video XD
Did you fight with Twitter?
Elon Musk: Yes.
Watched nearly every play through you have. Haven't seen a new threat mod for this game I thibk you would enjoy it I've just started it myself 12 hours just on disk 1 make sure choose the b option aswell it's same game bit different events happen its so much fun
A option is same story and bosses bit a bit harder. Option b is a twist on story events and very hard bosses etc haha
Do you have any vids about FF5?
It's one of my guilty pleasures, and my go to drunk solo game.
Also you should absolutely try Lufia the legend returns, one of my absolute favorite rpgs.
Either way your dedication is insane and I love your vids!
i have a blind playthrough of it but it was a stream series
Not many know- for the final Sephiroth battle, you can flick a booger at him and he will die. It's in the programming whatever you choose to do, he will perish regardless. Stand there with your thumb in your ass, grab a beer, do a few jumping jacks, whatever- he will kick the bucket (even if your attack "misses", which i have never seen)
Ofc, Omnislash works too.
His attack can't kill you, and Cloud auto-counters.
@@Rob_Thorsman I know👍🏻
I Did a no Materia No Grinding and No Exploits "including Slots" run Went well, Technically is completed, But My completion mark was Emerald.. Which at level 55 is just not possible especially with my lack of powerful equipment and level 1 limits. Which was a bit sad for me as technically its my first failed run
with no grinding id love to know how you got past shizo and managed to out damage bizaro's healing since you also say lack of powerful equipment, so that leads me to believe no ultimate weapons
@@Primalliquid92 Lack of powerful equipment meant Zidrich and .... i actually can't remember what the other high level stealable equipment is. i had Yuffies conformer, and that was the only ultimate weapon i had,...
Shizo was no problem for me. Elemental absorbing equipment and focused down 1 head at a time.
I figured it might be a difficulty spike boss but it was not for me.
Bizzaro took forever -.- but yeah Conformer does the job, Actually was Semi responsible for the end of me at one point because he used Heartless angel just before he died and 2 others were poisoned, so i went in to safer with yuffie at 1hp.
But with a combination of Clear tranquil and Lunatic High i had the healing and defence i needed as well as haste that with Fury is how i cleared most of the game
what you said though, about it being harder in certain places than you thought it would be. and easier in others. i had the same feeling. It was not as hard a run as i thought it would be. But some of the Difficulty spikes far outweighed what i thought they would be.
Sorry for the essay
If you were interested. my current Final Party for attempting Emerald is.
Level 55 Cloud. Limit Level 2, Ultima Weapon. Mystile. Ribbon. 4331 hp.
Level 52 Yuffie. Limit Level 1 Conformer. Imperial Guard. No acc currently 3556 hp
Level 52 Red 13. Limit Level 1 Limited moon. Bolt Armlet. No acc currently and 4069 hp.
That is what i am mostly locked in to now as everything else would be grinding by my parameters
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And people say modern Final Fantasy games are just "press square" and the older ones require strategy LOL
Final Fantasy VII is the only one that's this easy. VI and VIII undeniably require a bit more strategy and planning. And even then, this no materia no items run was a severe handicap that caused a lot of game overs that wouldn't happen if you use materia or items. VII suffers from being too easy at times but it's not completely mindless.
"We actually have a full game to play"
Lol
Love the work dude! Could you play the New Threat+ mod?
Great job mate
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Undisputed tier list
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90 seconds in and guessing whether or not we're going for the 7777 hp strat. Guess I'll watch to find out!
yo Mr. liquid big fan of your channel i just started recording this same challenge of no Materia, was dumb and didnt check if anyone posted a vid on it is it okay if still do it and credit u??
This guy is a beast
Just found your channel and I love your content!! Question: how much do you hate yourself lol
watch the videos and find out!
Loving the video Primal. Another great FF challenge as usual. How would a materia only, no attack, no limits, no items in battle run look…?
probably end sometime around the first battle since you cant flee
Actually even in the FIRST battle Cloud still starts the game WITH Bolt usable so a materia only run would be too easy sure you can't use items in battle but you don't NEED items in order to use Knights of the round on every boss in game starting with Carry armor itself.
@@veghesther3204 good luck breeding a gold chocobo without being able to throw a green at the 3 necessary plain chocobo
@@andrewrenshaw2741 I remember beating the game without any special Chocobos. Or am I wrong here?
Very nice, good job with the challenge! I would be interested if you can beat the game with only limit breaks. No normal attacks, no materia, no items, just limit breaks. Is that possible?
No, i've tried it, early game is impossible due to no healing
If u dont do anything when fighting the bonus sephiroth. After safer sep. Cloud will just attack. And you ll beat him aswell.
i like this just for the comment, wait this isn't the remake, we don't have to stop here
Im glad Primal is on "I Die" team and not "boobs"
A true man of culture.
This is pretty incredible 😲
I’m almost at the end of an Initial Equip/No Materia/No Accesories/Item Only challenge, but using items in battle.
With only a limited number of elixirs, Magic Pots are off the cards for grinding. Did you seriously get Cloud to L99 outside Mideel? 10 months sounds about right…
I dont know why but i cant stop laughing about Twitter-Subscribe-Boobs
Gg dude gg! Nicely done.
Thanks!
This is absolutely amazing. You are a grinding God.
I appreciate that!
@@Primalliquid92 Grinding God was, ironically, his nickname in school
24:56 Since english is not my first langage, I had to listen twice you know 🤔
How did you enter the Bizarro Sephiroth fight nearly completely healed and all three of your characters having limit breaks?
Funny theory, Aerith is actually selling the flower you really wanted. It seem there is a correlation with flower and prostitution in japan. Plus how would someone live off selling a single flower basket
So you can use Phoenix downs after battle?
Cool challenge thank you
4:00 Technically speaking, her dress is exclusively pink, it's her jacket that makes you think it's red.
the red dress is a reference to her dress in the remake at wall market
@@Primalliquid92 Ah right, yeah I forgot about that outfit. (mainly cuz my focus is on Cloud then, amirite guys?)
Great work! FF8 using only summons?! Sign me up!!
You're in!
I was going to say that you failed the challenge because I DIE D: used the White Materia, but I'll let it slide because she wasn't technically in the party.
I love these nicknames you’ve given the character lmao. My absolute favorite is DOGE
So, uh, about how I Die D:, well, died in that sewer boss fight... you put her in the back row. That boss only uses its physical attack on party members who are in the back row, and since I Die D: was the only one in the back row, she was the only available target for those physical strikes.