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Hey Ben Great video very informative as always! Are you still going to do a follow up video on your anti-rock sway bar setup on the JK? I would really love to see that and hear your opinion. Thank you!
JK Gear and Gadgets I like your videos and all the information you give out, I just got a 97 TJ and wanting to do upgrades and mod it all out and make it mine. Was the dirt rd around Lake Anna? Spotsylvania?
Hey Ben, would you mind me asking if a damper can be installed on the IFS version of my car doesn't have one? The solid axle one does, though, and road feedback is nasty on the IFS.
I ordered a JLRU in September and brought it home on Oct 19. I put this stabilizer on my jeep on Oct 21, when I had the Teraflex lift installed. I've had it on my jeep for almost 2 months and love it. It's so much better than stabilizers I have had in the past on other jeeps. When I hit railroad crossings, pot holes, or gaps going on and off bridges, my steering wheel does not move and everything stays in line. Very different than what I have experienced in the past. Well worth the money.
After researching stabilizers, it turns out my Bilstein 5100 stabilizer was the cause of my swaying on the highway since it was pressurized. It kept pushing my Jeep left and I always had to correct it causing it to sway and be unstable. It was not neutral like normal stabilizers. Thanks for this vid!
This video is exactly what I wanted to see, actual experience in different setting. Thank you so much for always providing real life experience and input. Keep ou the good work buddy.
Another successful crocs in socks install. Maybe that’s where I’m going wrong. Buying sneakers instead of crocs. Then I could have afforded the nexus 2.2 instead of the 2.1 I bought with all the shoe money saved. Honestly being way up here in the rust belt I figured the adjustable would just seize up in no time but after watching this I kinda wish I just spent the extra bit of dough.
I had a pretty bad death wobble on myJLRU with a small lift and 37’s when hitting potholes and bumps. They just did a recall to replace the damper and now it’s perfect.
I just installed one of these last week on my JLUR - very impressed with it! It allows driving with minimal input vs. the 'hands tightly on the wheel' feel of the stock stabilizer. Highly recommend it - money well spent!
@@bubb25211 The new Wranglers have two problems; the 'wander all over the road like a drunk sailor', and the steering wheel 'dead spot'. Replacing the stabilizer keeps the jeep from wandering, but the dead spot in the steering is still a problem. Jeep has a TSB for replacing the steering box with a new all steel version to fix that though.
@@mickeythompson8770 Two different issues; the factory steering stabilizer had a recall due to 'death wobble' with some jeeps - this is a better upgrade vs. the factory fix/replacement for that issue. For the slop in the steering, they did away with the aluminum steering box, and replaced it with a steel one; part# 68507569AB. I believe there is a PCM flash that must be performed after the upgrade as well, due to different gearing in the steel box.
I’m running the very similar Fox Race Series 2.0 ATS Steering Stabilizer for about 5000miles now and love it. It definitely improved the on-center feel at highway speeds. The Fox is also adjustable, but has like 24 settings which is way too many. The low/med/hi concept seems like plenty. For daily driving, I run the Fox stabilizer at the 16/18 setting. For rock crawling, I go at 4-5
if your front geometry is correct, you do not need one. Sometimes a stabilizer will mask real issues. I run a fox stabilizer. They are good for dampening off-road driving and stiffening your steering.... You are correct about death wobble,, usually the track bar bushings affect this. Bump steer is always an issue as well (wandering from mis-aligned track-bar to pitman and passenger side outer tie rod - should be parallel with each other ) - a great fix, is again correcting your geometry. Anyway - nice video - Cheers....
I just added to the steering!! I added the steering brace and this one day apart and both where money well spent the steering is so much better now!! i live where we have 15-25 MPH wind every day and now its not blowing me all over the ROAD.
For someone that says "That's what she said" all of the time, this video literally drove me nuts. So much material I could've used but my favorite is at 20:05
Been running this on my jku (2010) for almost a year! Love way better than my factory one which was leaking! 😂 I leave mine on medium pretty much 99% of the time
I went from the Fox ATS to the Red Neck Ram and didn't care for it for a daily driver. I now have the PSC Big Bore and it's amazing. It pushes the 37s around like nothing and they're 13.50 wide. I just watched your video on the track bar brace and I think adding that will really help tighten everything up. Thanks for the videos, great channel.
I've not run one on my 28 year old YJ 35" tires , 4" lift for the last year. No issues. For the most part stabilizers masks / hides issues you may have.
I have a 2022 high altitude gladiator and on the high way at speeds like 70+, if I would hit a typical like either pot hole or even just a regular interstate bump or sum it would at least shake slightly for 1 second and sometimes it would give me an unmanageable wobble that would last for 30 seconds to a minute. I got a rough country steering stabilizer with my new 35 inch tires and 2.5 inch suspension lift - and so far I can tell the difference is worth it. Very affordable.
FCA sees the steering stabilizer as a cure for death wobble. Our 2019 is on it's third steering gear and it's fourth steering stabilizer. The good news is that the dealership installed a Fox® Racing Shox 983-02-148 Factory Race Series 2.0 ATS Steering Stabilizer out of desperation. So now we have a $450 steering stabilizer with a Mopar warranty.
@@42WallabyWaySydney So far it has. I had it well above the speed limit on a rough patch of highway that had previously induced the wobble and it was solid. Still, my confidence in it was low. Once bitten, twice shy, y'know?
I’ve always had terrible luck with stabilizers. Ever since I tried to move my stock stabilizer out of the factory location and mount it above the tie rod I’ve never had luck. Every bracket I’ve tried to use either gave me some wobble or it didn’t sit straight with the tie rod making the stabilizer bend in weird ways causing clearance issues, or just some other nonsense reason. Now I’m one of those guys that just doesn’t run a stabilizer. With new ball joints in both my steering and the C’s on the ends of my axle, no stabilizer has been driving fine for me. I’m sure I’ll put one on again soon, but hopefully I’m on hydro assist before that time comes.
Yea, definitely not going to spend that kind of money and have it hanging low enough to whack on a rock or use as a shovel the first time out. Just got a synergy steering setup today 😁, going to raise the stabilizer up a bit to the track bar axle bolt.
Awesome video Ben! Just one thing that I wanted to mention that you did not fully explain. The stock stabilizer is hydraulic. Not active hydraulic with hoses and pumps, but passive hydraulic. The Falcon Nexus is also hydraulic. Both work really well to stabilize the steering. Hydraulic stabilizers push in and out evenly like you demonstrated in your vice. Most other "upgrade" stabilizers are not hydraulic like they should be, and are simply gas charged shocks (teraflex 9950, Rancho, any other aftermarket steel body twin tube, and cheaper Fox models). These gas charged models do work sort of, but tend to cause the jeep to veer off the road when you let go of the steering wheel, and make you feel like you are fighting the steering wheel to keep the Jeep straight. They also might not be as effective in dampening the steering from both directions. This is why most of these wrong options are offered in dual kits... to even out the veer. I would personally stick with a stock hydraulic stabilizer over a gas charged option.
I just replaced my duel stabilizer set up with the falcon nexus 2.2 stabilizer. I can say it's definatly different that the old set up. Even on the soft setting there's more resistance to the old duel set up. It's going to be interesting to see how this works out.
Hey brother I thought I would add something you left out: Leaf Sprung Jeeps, Blazers, Ram Chargers and Broncos were and are rigs that you tend to see dual steering stabilizers on JK G&G doesn't have a rig like that everything they have has link type suspension so it wasn't something you needed to cover so I will attempt to explain it. When you put dual steering stabilizers on one of these rigs it helps drivability on and off road because leaf springs can move side to side. What I mean to say is leaf springs allow for sway side to side to a certain degree. Anyone who's ridden in the seat of an old wagon of buggy has felt this first hand as their butt wiggled side to side in the seat going down a smooth road. Since this happens with leaf sprung vehicles the dimension between the Passenger knuckle and the steering box changes when transitioning from a right and left turn as the suspension causes the springs the flex side to side. On a smooth road this is not an issue as things respond in a linear fashion and the driver just adjusts the angle of attack to compensate for this. When the road is rough this issue becomes an "Issue" because as the load increases on a leaf spring the resistance to sway also increases so the sweet spot in whoops turning with leaf springs can be difficult to find. That's where the old school dual steering stabilizers came into play. When I was a little boy Dad had an F250 solid axle truck on 40's and in those days purpose built off road equipment wasn't really available to the common man so many kits were just repurposed OEM. Basically they took an off the shelf middle of the road stabilizer and made brackets to use two of them to control those large bias-ply tires. By placing two stabilizers inline with the tie-rod they could dampen the steering feedback by using a dimension that doesn't change no matter what that leaf spring suspension is doing and that made a night and day difference with those trucks because the factory caster angle for Bias ply tires was less aggressive than the caster angle we see today for Radials so when degree wedges were used to correct front drive line angles things really got bad. The dual steering stabilizer was the band-aid needed to fix this issue and allowed decent handling even when lifted on radials and it still does. Since it made such a difference back then the trend has been carried forward to today because there are still people wheeling now that started in the mid 70's when this was the trend. You will also see it used on you 3/4 and 1 ton Trucks because it still works well on them. I wouldn't be surprised if that Falcon stabilizer is a stiff as two OEM stabilizers on it's firmest setting so in a way it's like having two when set that way. I agree with you that two shouldn't be needed on a linked coil sprung Jeep like yours. I hope this Information helps someone.
You should get the clear vinyl wrap for your windshield Help out on rock breaking the glass it works pretty good i live in Phoenix and there's tons of rock on the highway i haven't had a window crack in 2 years
We have a brand new 2021 Gladiator. All the parts are new and we still experience the "death wobble". So I don't necessary believe it's due to worn out parts in our case. I'm going to change the steering stabilizer first and then go from there.
@@seanmoreno5576 Yes. I ordered a new one from Rough Country and installed it myself. It's worked perfectly ever since. No more death wobble and I have a happy wife.
Last fall while shopping for a JLU I drive 2 different brand new JLU that experienced death wobble at almost the exact same highway speed, so there is more to death wobble than just worn parts
Thank you for making this video, I was debating on getting an upgraded steering stabilizer and your video helped me a lot on making the final decision. Always amazing explanation.
Great review. This is the first review of the Falcon Nexus 2.2 I have seen on the inter-web. This is exactly what I am getting for my JK. But waiting for my aluminum tie rod. Agree 100% about the double trouble. The previous owner of my Jeep had installed an RC Duel (Same as you pictured in the video) and it is total crap. Also worn out and useless. I can feel every bump and dip in my steering. Looking forward to the steering upgrades.
With a 1.5” tie rod (aluminum) you will have to get creative since for some reason TF doesn’t make a 1.5” clamp mount. So options are to get the 1-3/8” mount and have a shop machine it out to 1.5”, or go with the Fox stabilizer
@@JKGearandGadgets Doetsch-Offroad makes one. They offer the Falcon Nexus 2.2 with billet clamp bracket with their aluminum tie rod and D-Link steering Flip Kit. doetschoffroad.com/products/jeep-jk-heavy-duty-aluminum-steering
Seems like a pretty expensive stabilizer to keep in the stock location hanging under the tie rod where it can be hit by rocks. Any reason why you didn't make a relocation part of the upgrade?
Thank you, Ben just in time video. I just had my 08 JK upgraded to the 7 slot custom tie rod and drag link kit. The only issue is now my Teraflex steering stabilizer will not fit, so after fixing the ball joints (Teraflex now) and new wheel bearings from Dan's Spicer. I am NOT running a stabilizer and the driving is tight and no issues, so far. Maybe down the line I will add the Teraflex Nexus 2.1 but for now it is good. Can't wait till Uwharrie opens up to test it out. Thanks again for the videos.
I have the same stabilizer on my JT on 37's. I run in on medium but I have noticed medium on 37 is much stiffer than Medium on 33's lol. I even considered giving soft another try to see. I haven't tried firm on 37's lol
Bought a 2006 LJ BRAND NEW. Lifted it and got death wobble immediately. A couple times a day I'd have to hit the brakes to calm it down. I bought an OME HD stabilizer, and NEVER had DW again. I cannot say it in plainer English. Ymmv
I noticed the difference for sure in my Falcon stabilizer when i installed. I am on medium to give myself a stiffer steering. I tried the firm and it was too much and was more difficult to turn at a dead stop.
Great video! I have been wondering if the steering stabilizer would be worth it and I am definitely going to check out the falcon one you reviewed for my JK!
I like the adjustable stabilizer I ran the fox pass through adjustable on my jku on 37" and it was a dream on and off road. I ran a little higher than medium
Damn, you just made me spend $350 on myself for christmas..... I didn't know about this product and if it helps with the sloppy JL freeway driving I'm all for it! Read a bunch of other reviews and they say this stabilizer really cleans up the road and freeway driving.
I have bump steer where my Jeep WJ wonders on uneven roads or bumps and there is slack of 3-4" in my steering wheel before it engages the wheels when turning. My issue is tie rod ends on Center Link and Drag Link, Lower Control Arms worn and the track bar bushings are worn. My steering stabilizer is shot and bent from the center link having g 2 inches of slop. It's a combination of all these things but I think the steering stabilizer contributes at least 30% to my problems.
I bought this stabilizer last summer and had it on for 6 months then the seal came loose and all the hydraulic fluid leaked but I will be buying another one because it's amazing
Dude for your info. I have a Cherokee. And a jk. Both HAVE HAD death Wobble from a bad steering stabilizer!!!! And yes all other front end parts were new. And the only time it would be remotely ok to not run one. Is with stock tires. It helps save the gear box and frame since both are weak points on Cherokees and wranglers.
I had been running a steering stabilizer for years. The bushings finally went out so I pulled it to replace it, but found that it didnt really change the way the truck drove so its been off for about 1.5yrs and have yet to see any difference in steering or handling. Maybe one day I will put it back on, but for now I dont see a need. If anything it was binding my steering at full flex.
Wow, thanks for sharing your knowledge, install and review of this product. My wife has a 15 JK 35s her steering is a little loosy goosy on the factory stabilizer, I think I'll get her this, I love the simplicity of the design, install and the way you can change the setting on the fly, thank you for this video!
Kayos told me years ago to change my steering stabilizer. I let it go got the ball joints fixed. Then a week later got the transmission service done. The dealership stated I needed a new stabilizer. Under 60mph it's not too bad 60+ and taking a turn at highway speeds is scary as shit. It feels like it's loose and has bad bushings and a floaty feel.
I have the 2.0 (not adjustable) for my TJ - didn’t offer the adjustable, but, believe it made a difference. I am still on 33 x 12.5’s but been beefing the suspension so I can go to 35’s if I decide to.
Great video, I’m currently running the Fox adjustable stabilizer. I love it for on road driving, which I do most of the time. I’m contemplating going to hydro assist. A lot of people trying to talk me out of hydro assist claiming it is too twitchy for freeway driving. Curious on your thought.
Hey boss, I am wanting to get a 3.5 inch lift on my JLU. BUT, I keep hearing many different things on what to get if I upgrade to that height. It’s all confusing and I am a beginner and would love if you made a full video explaining what I truly need.
Recently purchased a 2009 Jeep JK that already has a lift and 35” tires. Got the death wobble a couple times. Before I start changing track bars and bushings or the steering stablizer etc should I get the tires aligned first. Appreciate the video!!
Got my lift on my glady recently and started experienced my very first death wobble. Got this stabilizer on, it eliminated completely!! My only issue now is that the tip of where the adjustable knob is, it hits my after market ARB diff cover slightly. Any suggestion??? Love your videos as always! And welcome to Texas!!!
@JK Gear and Gadgets, I just purchased a 2020 JL. I'm curious if you know or have thoughts on 3m clear bra on the windshield will help prevent cracks or rock chips ..or maybe a video on that... love the channel and keep them coming . Thanks
@@JKGearandGadgets then why the duel system unless it doesn't hard mount to frame or gives more shock/hit or max flex. Mixing up tie rod w/ prt u can disconnect too.
We will be flat towing our Gladiator behind a motorhome. Wouldn't you think we would want to choose the "SOFT" setting so the steering could adjust the easiest while towing? As usual, thanks so much for great videos!
Been driving my 07 2 door with 33s and no stabilizer. Wanders a bit but have had no problems otherwise. Death wobble was fixed after getting rid of the stock tires
Great job love the info, I'm about to put one on mine with a 4" lift and 35s, but everybody I come across like bilistein wonder the difference is wouldn't mind that adjustable one to
So do you think that this has helped the floaty feeling in the stock steering? I’m personally very uncomfortable driving the Jeep the way it stands at high speeds ( 70 ) and inclement weather .. so I’m researching the best fix for it .. thanks for the info!
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Hey Ben Great video very informative as always! Are you still going to do a follow up video on your anti-rock sway bar setup on the JK? I would really love to see that and hear your opinion. Thank you!
Great video as always Ben! I just posted a new video let me know what you think! Still learning but hey gotta start somewhere! Thanks dude!!
JK Gear and Gadgets I like your videos and all the information you give out, I just got a 97 TJ and wanting to do upgrades and mod it all out and make it mine. Was the dirt rd around Lake Anna? Spotsylvania?
Hey Ben, would you mind me asking if a damper can be installed on the IFS version of my car doesn't have one? The solid axle one does, though, and road feedback is nasty on the IFS.
What bumper is that Ben? Awesome video!
I ordered a JLRU in September and brought it home on Oct 19. I put this stabilizer on my jeep on Oct 21, when I had the Teraflex lift installed. I've had it on my jeep for almost 2 months and love it. It's so much better than stabilizers I have had in the past on other jeeps. When I hit railroad crossings, pot holes, or gaps going on and off bridges, my steering wheel does not move and everything stays in line. Very different than what I have experienced in the past. Well worth the money.
After researching stabilizers, it turns out my Bilstein 5100 stabilizer was the cause of my swaying on the highway since it was pressurized. It kept pushing my Jeep left and I always had to correct it causing it to sway and be unstable. It was not neutral like normal stabilizers. Thanks for this vid!
This video is exactly what I wanted to see, actual experience in different setting. Thank you so much for always providing real life experience and input. Keep ou the good work buddy.
Another successful crocs in socks install.
Maybe that’s where I’m going wrong. Buying sneakers instead of crocs. Then I could have afforded the nexus 2.2 instead of the 2.1 I bought with all the shoe money saved.
Honestly being way up here in the rust belt I figured the adjustable would just seize up in no time but after watching this I kinda wish I just spent the extra bit of dough.
I had a pretty bad death wobble on myJLRU with a small lift and 37’s when hitting potholes and bumps. They just did a recall to replace the damper and now it’s perfect.
I just installed one of these last week on my JLUR - very impressed with it! It allows driving with minimal input vs. the 'hands tightly on the wheel' feel of the stock stabilizer. Highly recommend it - money well spent!
Do you mean tighten the play in the steering wheel?
@@bubb25211 The new Wranglers have two problems; the 'wander all over the road like a drunk sailor', and the steering wheel 'dead spot'. Replacing the stabilizer keeps the jeep from wandering, but the dead spot in the steering is still a problem. Jeep has a TSB for replacing the steering box with a new all steel version to fix that though.
Can you send a link for this steering box please..a steering stabilizer is just a shock to dampen not correct..
@@mickeythompson8770 Two different issues; the factory steering stabilizer had a recall due to 'death wobble' with some jeeps - this is a better upgrade vs. the factory fix/replacement for that issue. For the slop in the steering, they did away with the aluminum steering box, and replaced it with a steel one; part# 68507569AB. I believe there is a PCM flash that must be performed after the upgrade as well, due to different gearing in the steel box.
@@Ebbyman413 I definitely know they are 2 different issues..I was just wondering why all these people insist on the high dollar steering stabilizers
i like watching his videos at 1.75 speed... he gets to the point faster lol
Better at 2x I wish they had 2.5x...
I'm dead 😭😭😭😭
I was happy with 1.5x. I still want to understand the finer points.
Great now I can’t watch at a normal speed anymore
Give it a go a .25, really let's you take in all the information
I’m running the very similar Fox Race Series 2.0 ATS Steering Stabilizer for about 5000miles now and love it. It definitely improved the on-center feel at highway speeds.
The Fox is also adjustable, but has like 24 settings which is way too many. The low/med/hi concept seems like plenty. For daily driving, I run the Fox stabilizer at the 16/18 setting. For rock crawling, I go at 4-5
if your front geometry is correct, you do not need one. Sometimes a stabilizer will mask real issues. I run a fox stabilizer. They are good for dampening off-road driving and stiffening your steering.... You are correct about death wobble,, usually the track bar bushings affect this. Bump steer is always an issue as well (wandering from mis-aligned track-bar to pitman and passenger side outer tie rod - should be parallel with each other ) - a great fix, is again correcting your geometry. Anyway - nice video - Cheers....
Everytime I have a question about my jeep, You have the answers... love your channel... thank you both...
You will love it! It performs 50x better than the factory shock
I just added to the steering!! I added the steering brace and this one day apart and both where money well spent the steering is so much better now!! i live where we have 15-25 MPH wind every day and now its not blowing me all over the ROAD.
The crack in the windshield was definitely getting to me! 😂
This man is the king of, "but we will talk about that later" 😂
For someone that says "That's what she said" all of the time, this video literally drove me nuts. So much material I could've used but my favorite is at 20:05
I have the same stabilizer on my JT with 35's and I have been impressed as well.
Been running this on my jku (2010) for almost a year! Love way better than my factory one which was leaking! 😂 I leave mine on medium pretty much 99% of the time
I went from the Fox ATS to the Red Neck Ram and didn't care for it for a daily driver. I now have the PSC Big Bore and it's amazing. It pushes the 37s around like nothing and they're 13.50 wide. I just watched your video on the track bar brace and I think adding that will really help tighten everything up. Thanks for the videos, great channel.
Hmm, wasn't planning on upgrading the steering stabilizer with my upcoming lift and 35s, but going to consider it after this.
I've not run one on my 28 year old YJ 35" tires , 4" lift for the last year. No issues. For the most part stabilizers masks / hides issues you may have.
Highly recommend TF Falcon line their shocks are amazing as well
Again, great video. I also upgraded to the same stabilizer you just reviewed - the Falcon adjustable - Love it - Medium is my daily driver setting.
I have a 2022 high altitude gladiator and on the high way at speeds like 70+, if I would hit a typical like either pot hole or even just a regular interstate bump or sum it would at least shake slightly for 1 second and sometimes it would give me an unmanageable wobble that would last for 30 seconds to a minute.
I got a rough country steering stabilizer with my new 35 inch tires and 2.5 inch suspension lift - and so far I can tell the difference is worth it. Very affordable.
FCA sees the steering stabilizer as a cure for death wobble. Our 2019 is on it's third steering gear and it's fourth steering stabilizer. The good news is that the dealership installed a Fox® Racing Shox 983-02-148 Factory Race Series 2.0 ATS Steering Stabilizer out of desperation. So now we have a $450 steering stabilizer with a Mopar warranty.
Lol, so did it fix the death wobble?
@@42WallabyWaySydney So far it has. I had it well above the speed limit on a rough patch of highway that had previously induced the wobble and it was solid. Still, my confidence in it was low. Once bitten, twice shy, y'know?
@justgonnastay Stumbled across this video again. How has it held up?
Appreciate the honesty of your videos and product reviews.
I’ve always had terrible luck with stabilizers. Ever since I tried to move my stock stabilizer out of the factory location and mount it above the tie rod I’ve never had luck. Every bracket I’ve tried to use either gave me some wobble or it didn’t sit straight with the tie rod making the stabilizer bend in weird ways causing clearance issues, or just some other nonsense reason.
Now I’m one of those guys that just doesn’t run a stabilizer. With new ball joints in both my steering and the C’s on the ends of my axle, no stabilizer has been driving fine for me. I’m sure I’ll put one on again soon, but hopefully I’m on hydro assist before that time comes.
Yea, definitely not going to spend that kind of money and have it hanging low enough to whack on a rock or use as a shovel the first time out. Just got a synergy steering setup today 😁, going to raise the stabilizer up a bit to the track bar axle bolt.
Awesome video Ben! Just one thing that I wanted to mention that you did not fully explain. The stock stabilizer is hydraulic. Not active hydraulic with hoses and pumps, but passive hydraulic. The Falcon Nexus is also hydraulic. Both work really well to stabilize the steering. Hydraulic stabilizers push in and out evenly like you demonstrated in your vice. Most other "upgrade" stabilizers are not hydraulic like they should be, and are simply gas charged shocks (teraflex 9950, Rancho, any other aftermarket steel body twin tube, and cheaper Fox models). These gas charged models do work sort of, but tend to cause the jeep to veer off the road when you let go of the steering wheel, and make you feel like you are fighting the steering wheel to keep the Jeep straight. They also might not be as effective in dampening the steering from both directions. This is why most of these wrong options are offered in dual kits... to even out the veer. I would personally stick with a stock hydraulic stabilizer over a gas charged option.
I just replaced my duel stabilizer set up with the falcon nexus 2.2 stabilizer. I can say it's definatly different that the old set up. Even on the soft setting there's more resistance to the old duel set up. It's going to be interesting to see how this works out.
My steering stabilizer was bad.
So much death wobble. It was nearly undrivable over 50mph.
Hey brother I thought I would add something you left out: Leaf Sprung Jeeps, Blazers, Ram Chargers and Broncos were and are rigs that you tend to see dual steering stabilizers on JK G&G doesn't have a rig like that everything they have has link type suspension so it wasn't something you needed to cover so I will attempt to explain it.
When you put dual steering stabilizers on one of these rigs it helps drivability on and off road because leaf springs can move side to side. What I mean to say is leaf springs allow for sway side to side to a certain degree. Anyone who's ridden in the seat of an old wagon of buggy has felt this first hand as their butt wiggled side to side in the seat going down a smooth road. Since this happens with leaf sprung vehicles the dimension between the Passenger knuckle and the steering box changes when transitioning from a right and left turn as the suspension causes the springs the flex side to side. On a smooth road this is not an issue as things respond in a linear fashion and the driver just adjusts the angle of attack to compensate for this. When the road is rough this issue becomes an "Issue" because as the load increases on a leaf spring the resistance to sway also increases so the sweet spot in whoops turning with leaf springs can be difficult to find. That's where the old school dual steering stabilizers came into play.
When I was a little boy Dad had an F250 solid axle truck on 40's and in those days purpose built off road equipment wasn't really available to the common man so many kits were just repurposed OEM. Basically they took an off the shelf middle of the road stabilizer and made brackets to use two of them to control those large bias-ply tires. By placing two stabilizers inline with the tie-rod they could dampen the steering feedback by using a dimension that doesn't change no matter what that leaf spring suspension is doing and that made a night and day difference with those trucks because the factory caster angle for Bias ply tires was less aggressive than the caster angle we see today for Radials so when degree wedges were used to correct front drive line angles things really got bad. The dual steering stabilizer was the band-aid needed to fix this issue and allowed decent handling even when lifted on radials and it still does. Since it made such a difference back then the trend has been carried forward to today because there are still people wheeling now that started in the mid 70's when this was the trend. You will also see it used on you 3/4 and 1 ton Trucks because it still works well on them. I wouldn't be surprised if that Falcon stabilizer is a stiff as two OEM stabilizers on it's firmest setting so in a way it's like having two when set that way. I agree with you that two shouldn't be needed on a linked coil sprung Jeep like yours. I hope this Information helps someone.
Ben thank you for the install/real world review, it’s better than wading thru advertising hype.
You should do the high line mod to the DRL on the fenders to get some extra clearance for flexing. Also it looks awesome
These also good for high windy driving. I hate the loose feeling and fighting to keep in my lane..
You should get the clear vinyl wrap for your windshield Help out on rock breaking the glass it works pretty good i live in Phoenix and there's tons of rock on the highway i haven't had a window crack in 2 years
Cheapest I found it for was 199.99. I’m definitely going to get this. Thank you great video
We have a brand new 2021 Gladiator. All the parts are new and we still experience the "death wobble". So I don't necessary believe it's due to worn out parts in our case. I'm going to change the steering stabilizer first and then go from there.
Check the trackbar bolts and steering components and make sure everything is tight with no play while someone shakes the wheel
Hi, Did this fix your death wobble?
@@seanmoreno5576 Yes. I ordered a new one from Rough Country and installed it myself. It's worked perfectly ever since. No more death wobble and I have a happy wife.
I’ve been real curious about this stabilizer. Thank you for the video, this will definitely help me make my decision! 👍✌️
Geez. Just ordered two replacement cylinders for my Rough Country dual stabilizer. Should have watched this first. Great stuff.
I hadn't the Teraflex stabilizer on my 19 JL and it is a noticeable difference on the highway. Very smooth driving experience!
Did you get the lower control arms too?
@@litoornelas6409 Yes.
Last fall while shopping for a JLU I drive 2 different brand new JLU that experienced death wobble at almost the exact same highway speed, so there is more to death wobble than just worn parts
great vid! I have the same on my JLUR, and love the adjustability. soft on the trails, firm on the highway 👌
Thank you for making this video, I was debating on getting an upgraded steering stabilizer and your video helped me a lot on making the final decision. Always amazing explanation.
Great review. This is the first review of the Falcon Nexus 2.2 I have seen on the inter-web. This is exactly what I am getting for my JK. But waiting for my aluminum tie rod. Agree 100% about the double trouble. The previous owner of my Jeep had installed an RC Duel (Same as you pictured in the video) and it is total crap. Also worn out and useless. I can feel every bump and dip in my steering. Looking forward to the steering upgrades.
With a 1.5” tie rod (aluminum) you will have to get creative since for some reason TF doesn’t make a 1.5” clamp mount. So options are to get the 1-3/8” mount and have a shop machine it out to 1.5”, or go with the Fox stabilizer
@@JKGearandGadgets Doetsch-Offroad makes one. They offer the Falcon Nexus 2.2 with billet clamp bracket with their aluminum tie rod and D-Link steering Flip Kit.
doetschoffroad.com/products/jeep-jk-heavy-duty-aluminum-steering
Seems like a pretty expensive stabilizer to keep in the stock location hanging under the tie rod where it can be hit by rocks. Any reason why you didn't make a relocation part of the upgrade?
Thank you, Ben just in time video. I just had my 08 JK upgraded to the 7 slot custom tie rod and drag link kit. The only issue is now my Teraflex steering stabilizer will not fit, so after fixing the ball joints (Teraflex now) and new wheel bearings from Dan's Spicer. I am NOT running a stabilizer and the driving is tight and no issues, so far. Maybe down the line I will add the Teraflex Nexus 2.1 but for now it is good. Can't wait till Uwharrie opens up to test it out. Thanks again for the videos.
I have the same stabilizer on my JT on 37's. I run in on medium but I have noticed medium on 37 is much stiffer than Medium on 33's lol. I even considered giving soft another try to see. I haven't tried firm on 37's lol
Firm on 37s was a little much lol. Great on the highway, but making slow turns was pretty noticeable
Correction @2:45 "nothing like it"...it is another version of the Fox ATS that has been out for years.
I upgraded mine to a fox unit. Took out all the bump steer. Way better than stock.
Bought a 2006 LJ BRAND NEW. Lifted it and got death wobble immediately. A couple times a day I'd have to hit the brakes to calm it down. I bought an OME HD stabilizer, and NEVER had DW again.
I cannot say it in plainer English.
Ymmv
I noticed the difference for sure in my Falcon stabilizer when i installed. I am on medium to give myself a stiffer steering. I tried the firm and it was too much and was more difficult to turn at a dead stop.
Great video! I have been wondering if the steering stabilizer would be worth it and I am definitely going to check out the falcon one you reviewed for my JK!
Great video!!! I like the way the stabilizer behaves by changing siffness. Thanks!
Thanks, great video. I been thinking of upgrading mine on my jl and this video just helped me on the info I need it
I like the adjustable stabilizer I ran the fox pass through adjustable on my jku on 37" and it was a dream on and off road. I ran a little higher than medium
Damn, you just made me spend $350 on myself for christmas..... I didn't know about this product and if it helps with the sloppy JL freeway driving I'm all for it! Read a bunch of other reviews and they say this stabilizer really cleans up the road and freeway driving.
I have bump steer where my Jeep WJ wonders on uneven roads or bumps and there is slack of 3-4" in my steering wheel before it engages the wheels when turning.
My issue is tie rod ends on Center Link and Drag Link, Lower Control Arms worn and the track bar bushings are worn.
My steering stabilizer is shot and bent from the center link having g 2 inches of slop.
It's a combination of all these things but I think the steering stabilizer contributes at least 30% to my problems.
I bought this stabilizer last summer and had it on for 6 months then the seal came loose and all the hydraulic fluid leaked but I will be buying another one because it's amazing
GREAT INFO 👍
GREAT INFO 👍
I have the 2019 JL Rubicon running 35's.
Anyone able to give a long term review of this? I’d like to know if any side effects presented themselves like from additional stress.
I have it on my JL and I thinks it one of the best I have ran.
To improve my steering, is there anything else I need to combine ?
@@litoornelas6409 synergy suspension
steering brace
another good informative video Ben. Good job
Dude for your info. I have a Cherokee. And a jk. Both HAVE HAD death Wobble from a bad steering stabilizer!!!! And yes all other front end parts were new. And the only time it would be remotely ok to not run one. Is with stock tires. It helps save the gear box and frame since both are weak points on Cherokees and wranglers.
I had been running a steering stabilizer for years. The bushings finally went out so I pulled it to replace it, but found that it didnt really change the way the truck drove so its been off for about 1.5yrs and have yet to see any difference in steering or handling. Maybe one day I will put it back on, but for now I dont see a need. If anything it was binding my steering at full flex.
I put a fox 1 on and it made a amazing difference Haven’t has death wobble again
Wow, thanks for sharing your knowledge, install and review of this product. My wife has a 15 JK 35s her steering is a little loosy goosy on the factory stabilizer, I think I'll get her this, I love the simplicity of the design, install and the way you can change the setting on the fly, thank you for this video!
How did that work out? Kind of tired of the “loose/sloppy” steering as well.
Did it work for you?
@@MM-gm2yk never worked, haha I didn’t buy it, instead I got a divorce, best decision ever!
Kayos told me years ago to change my steering stabilizer. I let it go got the ball joints fixed. Then a week later got the transmission service done. The dealership stated I needed a new stabilizer. Under 60mph it's not too bad 60+ and taking a turn at highway speeds is scary as shit. It feels like it's loose and has bad bushings and a floaty feel.
I have the 2.0 (not adjustable) for my TJ - didn’t offer the adjustable, but, believe it made a difference. I am still on 33 x 12.5’s but been beefing the suspension so I can go to 35’s if I decide to.
"Aww man this is really really stiff!"
Ben--2019
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@@JKGearandGadgets "I'm gonna blast it off soft!" that must take some talent lol
zmann1026 haha did I say that? Wtf does that mean 😬😂
@@JKGearandGadgets well you were saying blast it off to the soft setting, but I'm mentally 12 years old and thought it was funny lol. Great video btw
zmann1026 haha I didn’t realize I said that 😂. Makes no sense at all.
That looks great! Now I just need a Jeep Gladiator to put it on....
Love the videos, such good information! Thanks for making these videos.
I had a stock one on JK. Was planing to upgrade it, but sold the Jeep before I got to do it.
i have this stabilizer on my 18 JL, Medium is def the best overall setting.
Great video, I’m currently running the Fox adjustable stabilizer. I love it for on road driving, which I do most of the time. I’m contemplating going to hydro assist. A lot of people trying to talk me out of hydro assist claiming it is too twitchy for freeway driving. Curious on your thought.
Not too twitchy at all!! It’s great for highway driving.
I have that exact same welder AND I have the exact same magnet sitting on top of it also...hinky!
Hey boss, I am wanting to get a 3.5 inch lift on my JLU. BUT, I keep hearing many different things on what to get if I upgrade to that height. It’s all confusing and I am a beginner and would love if you made a full video explaining what I truly need.
"We'll talk about that in a minute." Needs to be a patch or shirt or something 😄 You got your catchphrase.
Recently purchased a 2009 Jeep JK that already has a lift and 35” tires. Got the death wobble a couple times. Before I start changing track bars and bushings or the steering stablizer etc should I get the tires aligned first. Appreciate the video!!
I went with the dual stabilizer simply because I like the stiffer feel of the steering. It comes down to personal preference IMHO
I just got a dual rancho put on my 07 wrangler. Steering feels way better. Hopefully it doesn't kill the steering pump..
Hey _ for the windshield you may want to wrap it with some protective film. It worked for me... thanks for sharing
TERAFLEX HD BALL JOINTS fixed my Death Wobble. Although pricey... Well worth it.
Got my lift on my glady recently and started experienced my very first death wobble. Got this stabilizer on, it eliminated completely!! My only issue now is that the tip of where the adjustable knob is, it hits my after market ARB diff cover slightly. Any suggestion??? Love your videos as always! And welcome to Texas!!!
@JK Gear and Gadgets, I just purchased a 2020 JL. I'm curious if you know or have thoughts on 3m clear bra on the windshield will help prevent cracks or rock chips ..or maybe a video on that... love the channel and keep them coming . Thanks
Thanks for the good info, I like the option between soft and medium dampening and probably get this when I do my lift.
Great, informative video Ben as usual. Thanks for that brother I sure could use this stabilizer on my JT Rubicon.
You say thats a soft factory stabilizer, you should see mine on my jk. I can move in and out with maybe 5 lbs of pressure replacing it this weekend
they should sell in pairs protection both sides & both adjustable mayb med is right *2 but cheaper buy the pair.
One will protect both sides since the tie rod goes to both sides.
@@JKGearandGadgets then why the duel system unless it doesn't hard mount to frame or gives more shock/hit or max flex. Mixing up tie rod w/ prt u can disconnect too.
We will be flat towing our Gladiator behind a motorhome. Wouldn't you think we would want to choose the "SOFT" setting so the steering could adjust the easiest while towing? As usual, thanks so much for great videos!
Those lights on the TJ are dope
Awesome video. I was thinking of the fox stabilizer for my Mojave but I think you just changed my mind
Been driving my 07 2 door with 33s and no stabilizer. Wanders a bit but have had no problems otherwise. Death wobble was fixed after getting rid of the stock tires
You should get a pair of the Pro Comp S15-w 3.8 wide angle cube LED and do a review so I can see if they are worth it!
i just order a new Fox® Racing Shox Factory Race Series 2.0 ATS Steering Stabilizer. my old is not ok with the new 37" tire
Great job love the info, I'm about to put one on mine with a 4" lift and 35s, but everybody I come across like bilistein wonder the difference is wouldn't mind that adjustable one to
So do you think that this has helped the floaty feeling in the stock steering? I’m personally very uncomfortable driving the Jeep the way it stands at high speeds ( 70 ) and inclement weather .. so I’m researching the best fix for it .. thanks for the info!
Yes for sure! My steering kind of had a mind of its own. I also added the synergy brace (check out my most recent video) and it drives 100% better
Thank you for the review, I’ve been looking at that for my Jk for a whiel
"Hold on guys, l have to adjust my steering stabilizer before I hit this trail" 🤣
Well I mean we already air down and disconnect our sway bars. What is one more thing haha
@@AustinH7 that’s what I was thinking. It’s quick and easy too.
I am running 35's with the stock stabilizer. Been considering upgrading.
Bryan Rensi do it! I’m running 35’s on my JLUR, and it made a noticeable difference. soft on the trails, firm on the highway ftw! 👌