Do You Need Adjustable Control Arms?? Jeep Gladiator Core 4x4 Install
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- Welcome back to another video!
In this video im going a little more in-depth on the "whys" and "hows" about Adjustable Control arms.
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Installing a set of adjustable control arms is a fairly simple project, and we gain alot from them.
After installing the 1.5" teraflex leveling kit on my 2020 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon, i wanted to add a set of front control arms to help add a little caster, as well as add some stronger components for offroading. I chose the Core4x4 arms for a few reasons, they are affordable, they are available in various powercoated colors, and they use Johnny Joints. Im a fan of Johnny joints on a Jeep like this because they are very versatile, great for offroad use (flex and misalignment) while still being quiet and soft on the street. Johnny joints are also very easy to rebuild if you ever need to replace them.
Like ive mentioned in various videos, we have offroad tested the Jeep Gladiator stock, as well as with 35s. Now that we have added a front bumper, winch, and control arms, its time to test it out offroading with 37s!!
So, in short. If you have a lifted Jeep (TJ,XJ,JK,JL,JT, or any Jeep with control arms) then i highly suggest a set of adjustable control arms. Even if your jeep is stock, this will be a great upgrade from factory components.
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How much lift are you running on your Jeep? What control arms are YOU running?
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JK Gear and Gadgets thanks I am trying to find an do the best set up for my JT Overland build an then do axels later, at least do good suspension, have a good Thanksgiving
I’m running a set of 8 teraflex adjustable arms with monster Jonny joints and 4 inch springs . Before the addition of the adjustable arms it rose terribly, after the arms much better along with teraflex track bars .
16-K mile JKU:4.5" AEV lift, 37's, stock axles, Tera Flex HD ball joints. Should I go for all lowers, or all 8 control arm to replace stock items? I've wheeled 4 times, moving up to blue, blue/black trails next month.
With a 4.5” lift I would suggest starting to upgrade all 8 arms, or look into a long arm kit
I put a spacer for the hanger bearing I'm running 4.5 evo lift. It worked like a champ
This is without question the best informative video on suspension I’ve seen without being mind numbing and boring. I already knew most of this stuff and still watched all of it. Great video!
Thank you 🤘
I think there is room for more of these type of informative videos. Very informative and well articulated. 👍
440 likes, 2 dislikes. Don't take it personal Ben. The two dislikes are probably because Cassie isn't in the video.
What 1.5 inch spacers are you were you running front and rear?
Ben I feel like you undersold these arms a little bit. Calling them "budget friendly" arms leaves a Rough Country taste in my mouth lol Core 4x4 are the real deal. Guys, if you just want a lift and big tires for the "look" the Tier 2 are your budget friendly option. If you want the real deal, beefy, beat on them, forged Johnny joints step up to the Tier 3 or Tier 4, they are great arms at a good price! Made in the USA and they all have an unbeatable "you break them, we replace them" lifetime warranty. Plus free shipping in the USA plus 5% off? You can't go wrong. I have no affiliation with Core 4x4, I've just owned them for four years and they've held up great.
I must be missing something because I don’t see tier 2 for the gladiator and I don’t see free shipping with that code or any.
@@BigRed804 This was posted over a year ago, so I guess they don't ship for free anymore. If you use the code "pajeeps1" you'll get 10% off vs 5, which will cover your shipping. And no, there is no Tier 2 for the Gladiator.
@@auntjanet2346 awesome thank you!
Lifetime warranty.. no questions asked, you break it they replace...not bad
Thank's Ben you're hard work is very appreciated.
Love my core4x4 short arms for my ZJ lift. I went with their tier 1 because I wanted rubber bushings as it was my daily driver. It was really nice to dial in the pinon angle.
Shout out to them, my track bar came with a larger johny joint than what would fit the bracket. I called them up, they asked for a pic, and had a replacement to me in two days. Excellent product, excellent customer service, and their prices are very fair in my opinion.
Edit, I'm running a 4.5 inch lift.
Excellent job explaining everything Ben.Windshield cracked already?
Yes 🤦🏻♂️. Not sure what I’m going to do yet.
@@JKGearandGadgets check out racing optics (racingopticsjeep.com): they offer a 3 layer laminated windshield tear-off and their customer service is phenomenal
I am running Core 4x4, TIER 4, front control arms on my JKU. 3.5" of lift. I am wanting to buy the rear arms soon. Great video Ben!
I just got a 2020 Jeep 2 door sport, yeah the cheapest one I could get. But I did add the 2” Mopar lift with 35” KM3’s. I really like the height but I do think I need a better track bar and maybe some upgraded control arms like the ones you just installed because I feel like there is a lot of play in the steering going around curves making it a little white knuckle while driving. And I’d like to add some JKS quick disconnects for it as well. But you make all the mods look so easy to install I’m jealous of your skills man.
Great video as always Ben, this info will help a lot of people.
JKS 3.5” lift with their fixed front and rear lower control arms. My Jeep is a once a month or two off roader so ride is more important than flex right now. Will be upgrading the uppers here real soon. Once the Jeep isn’t a daily driver I will be upgrading the lowers to adjustables with johnies.
How is the JKS with the full core arm kit? Mine is getting installed this week on my new Gladiator!
@@zacktravelstheworld I don’t have the Core arms, I have the JKS Manufacturing arms, fixed lowers and adjustable uppers.
Ben thank you for the explanation on different options. Many folks never open the hood or look at the underside of their vehicles so they’re clueless as to how it all works...
Really appreciate all of the upgrade videos you’ve been producing.
Very informative thank you so much!
I knew something from CORE 4x4 was coming. Im running 3.5" lift on 35s. Just got their front tier 3 track bar for my jk and that thing is pure beef, tier 3 controll arms are coming soon. Perfect discount for the holidays.
Thanks Ben, love your videos. I recently switched from Rubicon Express arms to Metalcloak adjustable front and rear, uppers and lowers along with their 3.5" lift. Jeep drives much better now.
I needed this info when I first lifted my Jeep. Would have saved me time, money and frustration. Invaluable information for beginners. Nicely done! Thanks!
I’m hoping this will help out some new jeep owners, especially since a lot of gladiator owners are new to the Offroad side
@@JKGearandGadgets I went with the Tier 3 btw. 3 years no issues. Rock solid.
Best information on jeep upgrades on utube. Yes i have moved to the dark side. I brought a JK. They not as popular in Aus than the US but wow they good off road. Not so much on road but i didnt buy it for that. Love your channel
Great info thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. I have Clayton Offroad's 2.5" Overland lift that I am getting ready to install.
PAJeeps1 gets 10% off anytime. Don’t mean to take over your discount code but 10% is better than 5%
Yes.. I would love some, can I afford the upgrade, probably not. Great video mate
Awesome video!! I like these type of videos because I learn a lot being a newb. Thanks!
I have a 2023 JT with 4.5" lift adjustable control arms and when i'm in 4x4 once i get upto 15 MPH i'm getting a pretty bad clunking noise up front. I didn't have stock so i'm thinking the pinion angle is not right. Any ideas.
great job Ben, always a wealth of knowledge
Great vid. Seen a ton of your videos, but this is the first time stumbling onto this one. Getting ready to order the red Core 4x4 set for my gf's show JKUR, and eventually get a set for my JLUR. Too bad your coupon code doesn't work anymore. Lol
So I've lifted my jku 3.5" and I'm running 35×12.5×17 tires. my steering is very flighty. Would I just need the front upper and lowers or should I order the rear as well? All new upper and lower ball joints, drag link, trac bar, tie rod. Also added a new steering stabilizer and synergy braces.
bought a set of core 4x4 front LCAs and they are great!
Do they make a double spool 2 winch from warn winch or any1 else. 2 winch for front add on bumper. Why way f-ing safer, bc u can hve 2 lines cutting wt about 1/2 load & pulling at extreme angle is not "extreme if both lines cancel each other extremeness out. I Am God & That is what I want. 120 ft spool *2 diff winches bitches, how u like Me NOW. JBM I like the bumper the guy had where winch was on top not down in hidden & want to b able to safely stand on bumper full length safe foot plant min 7" wide standing area. That way is u angle your feet apart u can stand facing hood or "I'm on top of the world big boat movie pose".
Thank you for this video and good information. You’re awesome!! I have a 2004 LJ that I would appreciate any advice you can give.
Planning for adjustable control arms for my JL four-door Rubicon. Considering the core brand you used versus one from synergy that uses a pinch bolt and adjustable collar that allows you to adjust caster without removing the control arm. They are 2x the cost .. do you think that feature is worth the extra money?
JK Gear: "1.4 degrees of caster... that would drive horrible on the street." Welcome to my world. Don't put a 3.5"-4' lift on your Jeep without doing the control arms. This is how I bought my Jeep and I am in the process of getting this correct. You've been warned. It does indeed drive like poop.
Had a rough country 4” lift installed. I also replaced front and rear adjustable track bars and replaced rear sway bar bushings and links. It rides like shit!! Been back to shop three times. So Fing frustrated!!!!!!!!! I have a lot of body roll and steering sway. Had some bump steer but dual stabilizer seems to have helped.
Buddy said CAs necessary and place caster to 6 degree to stop sway.
Any advice is desperately desired!!!!!!
The tj, lj control arms were a u channel to allow a twist and flex without cracking the arm and not wearing out the bushing. This gave a light weight long life rubber bushing that did not bind during flex.
Yes they were easy to damage when you landed on a big rock, but I have only personally seen two bent. Easy and cheap to replace.
Johnny joints are great. Strong, but costly. Lift and heavy wheeling with big tires.... yeah up grade.
Stock jeep up to 33s. The factory works great.
Gotta love the death wobble..Lol..Just purchased a set of Core 4x4 tier 4 w/bend for 98 ram diesel bent my stock ones.
Great video, I currently have the evo lower control arms but was looking at core for the rest. I see you have your zerk fittings facing down... seems to be at risk, but at least you can grease them. The evo zerk fittings have them faced up. Keep us updated on if they get damaged.
Exactly, it’s easier to grease like this, but also more prone to Offroad damage. It’s personal preference, some would rather have the Offroad protection (and remove the arm for greasing). Luckily zerks are cheap, and easy to replace, but if they break off in the threads then you have to deal with removing them lol.
I'm running 2,5" lift with Rubicon express adjustable reservoir shocks front and rear and only got the jks fixed length front lower controlarms. Thinking about upgrading to a full set of synergy arms.
I had Core4x4 tier 4 control arms and then went to a Clayton long arm kit on the WJ cant beat the quality of the Clayton kit
You talk about minimum of adjustable lower control arms but an alignment shop said I need upper adjustable control arms Rubicon express can you explain ? I’m running a Mopar/Teraflex stage 3 thanks
Just bought front and back tier 4 including both track bars. Waiting for shipment and should be in by Thursday
2.5" lift new 35s. Im getting a vibration over 55mph. Will this fix my issue?
I was looking at core4x4 greatmprices love the gladiator.
I dont understand how you are supposed to dial your shit in if you need to remove these control arms to adjust them. Seems to me it will be a shitload of work to do that, especiaply since your not able to see the results until you tighten everything back up and put the car on the road... like cant you buy ones that can be adjusted on the jeep?
Hello I have a 2020 Jeep gladiator with a RC 6” lift witch came with a trac bar relocated bracket after a few days of the lift I when ahead and bought a rubicon express adjustable trac bar to 6” I had the shop installed it but they didn’t remove the relocation bracket it witch has me thinking what’s the purpose of ajustable trac bar if the relocation bracket is still being used any info on that thanks
Thanks! I am planning to install control arms on my Gladiator and your video really helped me gain some vital knowledge.
You’re the man!!! Thank you for another great video. Very informative and entertaining. Love your channel.
So I have 2.5 inch lift and 35 tires and my caster is at 5 and pinion is at 0 . Not sure if that good or not and if I have to push control arms forward.Thanks
This is why I love your videos. I literally typed in “do I need adjustable control arms?” And BAM you pop up yet again and explain it the best. Keep it up man!
What rims are those on the JT? I like them, very subdued yet classy.
Edit: I can see when u Zoom in they are from vision
I had the same ones on my JK. Will also put them on my JL. Great company and great control arms. Love them!
So it's a balance between caster and pinion angle? I just put front lowers on my JK when I went from 3" to 4" of lift, and now it wanders on the road. The steering wheel is almost always cocked to one side or another and I have had it aligned.
Added Core4x4 control arms front and back to my TJ, even their base units are great!!
Thank you for this video exactly what I needed !! When you are done did you leave the heat shields off over the upper C/A’s? Did you wire tire any wires or just leave them
Awesome and such an informative video. I’ve been struggling trying to get caster right on my 3.5” lifted JL. Currently put lowers out a 1/2 longer at 24.5 but uppers are still at stock length 20 1/8, I guess I need to pull uppers out a bit for proper pinion angle and to get it handling right. I should be a roughly 6.5 degrees now but still doesn’t handle or track as straight as it should imo. Maybe I’ll play with uppers tomorrow. Thanks for sharing bro, love you Chanel and all your knowledge.
Awesome video! Your explanation was very easy to understand for a beginner such as myself. Thank you. I am going to order the whole set of T2 CAs. Was up in the air with the Rough Country, but you just sold me on the Core 4x4 set thanks to your thorogh explanation. Appreciate the time you took to do a great vid!! 🤘
Had these upper and lower on my TJ they were 👍
Running iron rock off road 3link on my xj with bout 6 inches of lift. Absolutely love them. Running stock control arms on my wife’s wj with a 3 in lift. Definitely gonna be looking at core 4x4 for adjustable front lowers for hers👍
Nice video and great job explaining it all. I have the Teraflex LCA but the fixed length ones since we’re just running a 2.5” lift. Castor is about 4.5 which is ok I think, drives great on the highway.
being an Alignment guy I was hoping to get the 4 Deg caster back on a JK I was working on, but the lift is so high I decided to go with pinion angle to get the front drive shaft lined up , still not sure it was the right moive, R and D for sure
What do you think about core 4 x 4 arms now? Would you buy them again?
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Fantastic explanation, very clear and easy understanding... reagrds from Mexico!
Thanks! Very clear and helpful so I can do it myself! Keep it up!
How necessary are rear. Control arms? I notice a fair amount of JT kits seem to only come with front correction. Could you get away with front correction only on a 3 inch lift?
Great explanation, thanks !!👍😀🇳🇱❤️🇺🇸💪🥇
Just came across your video, thank you for all of the explanations. I have a Wrangler JKU and will be putting on 3-inch coil springs and adjustable shocks, going to see how that works before going the route of adjustable lower control arms and a new track bar, only running 33in tires.
Just purchased all 8 control arms for my TJ from core4x4 and used your code! Thank you for the information and the discount!
You’ve got negative and positive castor backwards.
Thanks for the great information. really helpful.
You're the absolute best Ben💪
Great info for people who are new the jeep life and experienced offroaders
Look great. Not sure I'd want those grease fittings facing down tho. 😉
Hey Ben I’ve got a question. Is there some type of chart as to what the recommended pinion and caster angles are for a JKU for varying lift heights?
For example, I’ve got a JKU with a 3.5” lift. Is there specific pinion and caster angles I should be at? I know all my arms need some minor adjustments because I can visibly see the axles shifted too far forward or back etc.
And I’m running all 8 core 4x4 tier 4 arms as well!!!
It depends on your driveshaft. The stock CV style can handle more caster and less pinion angle (so 4.5 caster, 1.5 pinion). If your running aftermarket double cardan driveshaft you need to make sure pinion angle is closer (so probably 3.4-4* caster.
With 3.5” lift you can probably get mid 4s in your caster
Just came by to say how much I like more core arms. Been running their arms on the rear of my 14’ Ram for a good year or so. These are some beefy parts.
lol that's why I got them. nice knowing a company has faith in there product. I ordered full set be putting them on soon yay lol
Ben, great videos you are making, but I have a question since I am new to Jeeping. I have a 2022 Jeep Gladiator Mojave and I have installed a rough country 3.5 inch lift, keeping the fox shocks. If I wanted to do off road adventures, not extreme but maybe difficult, what else would you add to the jeep? Control arms etc?? Thanks and keep up the great work
Control arms, sway bar disconnects, winch, possibly some skids and then go out and have fun!
Great video! It cleared up my understanding.
as with a normal pinion angle at a minus 2 to 3 degrees..its been a long time but awesome vid bro!!!!
Did they come red or did you pay extra the ones I'm looking at are black
Oh come on Ben. You don't like turning into the Tin Man as soon as you unscrew the lid on the anti-seize?
Nice! Just got these same ones last week!
Just ordered these price wise thought it was a good option. How have they held up after 3 years
Helpful explanation. And the red control arms are a good look.
We are running Teraflex Apline upper and lowers.
I have a 2 door jk with 2.5 inch lift and 35’s tire. What would a recommended angle on it to ride better on highway.Will the control arm help with it swaying from left to right.Need help thanks
Swaying or body roll is going to be shocks. To help with high speed steering stability get some lower control arms and adjust caster to 5-6 degrees
Core, they are not good people to deal with. People find a different product then Core.
Nice presentation! Thank you!!!
Thank you
To adjust rear toe it seems you have to unbolt one end to turn it then put it back in. Is that correct?
Did u have to have alignment checked after install
Thank you for this video. Great video and learnt so much, if I could give it two thumbs up I would.
Thank you!
Turned the knuckles on a couple axles, not the most fun I've ever had, but worth it when I was able to dial caster in and had my driveshaft aligned with the pinion.😁
A lot of work! But worth it in the end
My daughter just bought a 2012 jeep rubicon and it has a rough country lift and I noticed it does not have adjustable control arms and it has 35"tired and it drives horrible and wobbles if she hits a bump.all the steering components are tight and solid.can you give us some suggestions.
I would suggest looking at the trackbar bolts. Have someone turn the wheel back and forth while you are underneath and make sure nothing is moving.
Running Teraflex control arms.
Enjoy following both y'alls channels.
Having you considered doing install for your subscribers? I'm sure you don't have time but thought I'd ask if it's a short term/long term goal for you.
eventually yes. My long term goal is to open a shop. Not a full blown public install shop, but a garage/shop for videos and case by case installs. Right now I’m limited by where I live, and my full time job. Hopefully in the next few years I can make it happen.
Thanks for taking the time to explain all of this in one solid video. I have shared it with my jeep crew as an FYI video. I noticed you pointed the zerks down on the lower arms. Do you think they will get damaged on the trail? Probably can't get to them if they are pointing up, eh? Hmm. Also, I've heard debate about where to put the adjustable end. I've heard typically it should be installed closest to the frame bracket, like you did here. What are the pros and cons of either way?
The zerks facing up or down is a common question. Some like the accessibility of greasing, some want the Offroad protection (which means you would have to drop the arm to grease). Either way it has pros and cons. Luckily zerks are cheap and easy to replace. The negative is when they break with the threads still in and you have to remove it (still not too hard since they should be installed loosely).
As for the adjustment end. I prefer it at the frame side since it’s a higher location and less likely to get damaged. In this case, the arm has a bend in it for tire clearance during turning, and the arm is designed to be mounted this way. Thanks for sharing the video!
Best explanation on the interwebs! Thanks!
Great video ben. Very basic, but important info
I put my jeep jk control arms adjustable my jeep is raised 6 inches and I don't know how much I have to put my control arms
Gotta adjust the lowers first to the length that will center your axle back where it should be. Then adjust uppers evenly to adjust pinion angle
I appreciate the longer informative videos. Great job as always Ben
Did core 4x4 send measurements by chance?
Not for lowers, but definitely for uppers.
Nothing I can say about the comprehensive content that hasn't already been said but Ive noticed the overall production value has gotten so much tighter & clean...transitions, jump cuts, edits, angles, close ups etc....everything just seems more cohesive. Good stuff Benjamin!
Thank you! Hopefully one day I’ll get a garage so I can make the videos even better. This winter is going to kill me lol
@@JKGearandGadgets the post production process is often the unsung "hero" of these videos. Shooting is the easy part, it's taking the raw footage, putting it in a pot and cooking it up for it's final presentation is where the tedious work is.
Ben's channel is on the threshold of blowing up. Aside from what you mentioned he can explain things in a way that even dummies like me can understand.
I know this is old.
But do adjustable control arms increase ride height at all?
I have a 3.5” skyjacker lift that seemed higher at first, and it came with front lower control arms. But I’m seeing others with 3.5” lift but have all control arms upgraded, and they seem to be riding higher than I am.
No really
@@JKGearandGadgets thank you!