Hello, nice routine. I have shure that are probably at their peak right now as in not new but still have life left in them. I think they hold the groove better than the VNL even at 2 grams. The VNL are great value but like yourself I dont like having to turn the gain up and I also think the VNL sound kind of flat which some may like. I will stick with the VNL until a really close reproduction of the m44-7 is produced. Shure output sound is the best for real vinyl scratching in my opinion.
Word, it’s the bet value for money available on the market right now, even the reproduction of the M44-7 stylus from Germany or Japan are not as good as the Shure and they are expensive....
@@DjKlin To throw in my 2 cents, I've heard the "Jico/Tonar ain't as good as they used to make em" argument many times before, but maybe that held true when Shure manufactured in the USA. My newer Mexican-made "original" needles were slightly crooked from the factory, so there's that. The Tonars I have are spot on IMO, and work just fine. Levels and frequency response are identical. If your record is warped to shit it'll skip. Like, wow, big surprise innit. I also still have hope that, if Shure's needles ever WERE as god-tier as people make them out to be, Jico puts in enough R&D to entirely match or even surpass that. They're planning to release a whole 44-7 replacement *cartridge* so it doesn't seem like they're abandoning the design just yet.
@@samuelhackson828 I found the Jico needles very good but when it came to using them with time code vinyl i found them very poor, constant calibration issues and 'poor signal' errors. My genuine M447's are now at their end of life and i'm torn between VNL,Ortofon scratch or Digital. I think i'll go with the scratches as i don't see any difference (spec wise) between them and the digital to justify the extra money.
@@DjKlin thanks for getting back to me brother. I mix old skool hardcore from early 90’s and have been using the ortofon concorde dj mk2’s but i want to have as old skool feeling as possible. Would you go VNL over the concordes ?
@@23lnp yo! I would keep the concord, but, if you want to go old school you can get a pair of Shure M44-7, the sound would be a little less rich but would have the exact feeling of back in the days. You can style find some in the used market here and there but watch out if they are destroyed! Make sure you can test them before.
@@DjKlin i always thought the firmer the needle the better but ive since learnt this isn’t the case before viewing your video i had only used 3 (with control vinyl) but since trying two i find a little more clarity in the scratches. Ill give number one a go for a week and report back.
Next time you want to test skip resistance, try using a real record, not a skipless scratch tool, lol!!
hahaha good one, but you can still hear the skips!
Hello, nice routine. I have shure that are probably at their peak right now as in not new but still have life left in them. I think they hold the groove better than the VNL even at 2 grams. The VNL are great value but like yourself I dont like having to turn the gain up and I also think the VNL sound kind of flat which some may like. I will stick with the VNL until a really close reproduction of the m44-7 is produced. Shure output sound is the best for real vinyl scratching in my opinion.
Word, it’s the bet value for money available on the market right now, even the reproduction of the M44-7 stylus from Germany or Japan are not as good as the Shure and they are expensive....
@@DjKlin To throw in my 2 cents, I've heard the "Jico/Tonar ain't as good as they used to make em" argument many times before, but maybe that held true when Shure manufactured in the USA. My newer Mexican-made "original" needles were slightly crooked from the factory, so there's that. The Tonars I have are spot on IMO, and work just fine. Levels and frequency response are identical. If your record is warped to shit it'll skip. Like, wow, big surprise innit.
I also still have hope that, if Shure's needles ever WERE as god-tier as people make them out to be, Jico puts in enough R&D to entirely match or even surpass that. They're planning to release a whole 44-7 replacement *cartridge* so it doesn't seem like they're abandoning the design just yet.
@@samuelhackson828 I found the Jico needles very good but when it came to using them with time code vinyl i found them very poor, constant calibration issues and 'poor signal' errors. My genuine M447's are now at their end of life and i'm torn between VNL,Ortofon scratch or Digital. I think i'll go with the scratches as i don't see any difference (spec wise) between them and the digital to justify the extra money.
Can the VNL be used for standard mixing over scratching ?
Hi yes my man, no problem at all
@@DjKlin thanks for getting back to me brother.
I mix old skool hardcore from early 90’s and have been using the ortofon concorde dj mk2’s but i want to have as old skool feeling as possible. Would you go VNL over the concordes ?
@@23lnp yo! I would keep the concord, but, if you want to go old school you can get a pair of Shure M44-7, the sound would be a little less rich but would have the exact feeling of back in the days. You can style find some in the used market here and there but watch out if they are destroyed! Make sure you can test them before.
Klin tu testes tout :)
Yeah! Le plus le mieux!
Which stylus of the VNL was your preferred??
The smooth, number 1 I guess. The number 3 is the one I liked the least, skipping too much for me. Have you tried them? Which stylus do you like?
@@DjKlin i always thought the firmer the needle the better but ive since learnt this isn’t the case before viewing your video i had only used 3 (with control vinyl) but since trying two i find a little more clarity in the scratches. Ill give number one a go for a week and report back.
@@mac8050 Yep! Let me know what you think after a week, I really jammed with it only few minutes but felt a difference right away
@@DjKlin number 1 is now my favourite for sure. Feels good cutting with it and the sound is ace.
@@mac8050 Nice! Thanks for sharing, they will be next on my list
Does anyone know what the gold record he has is?
Yo my man! The gold record (it’s clear yellow) is the scratch break from the homie Dj Skillz « You Know My Skillz » very dope I strongly recommend ;)
Hello how are you? which one do you prefer om qbert or vnl?
I think the VNL, that’s the one I use the most for now
Does the vnl come with a headshell?
nope my friend....