Missangelblanco a woman waiting for her husband in the snow, he is cheating on her and the dance ends when she dies frozen in grief. (If I am mistaken let me know)
This dance is based on an old Chinese story that was mentioned in the novel. Although it was told in Japan, it was told the same way. It tells the story about a wife who caught her husband having an affair with a courtesan in his concubine. Heartbroken, the wife walked in the show and commits suicide.
The movie took many liberties, because it's actually Mameha who performed this dance in Chapter 23. Although never fully elaborated on, the dance on stage that Sayuri performs, tells the story of a woman who suspects her husband of infidelity, and waits outside in the snow to catch her husband leaving his mistress. Unfortunately, a blizzard sweeps over the land and she succumbs to the elements.
I believe in the book, he did try to look for her after the War. After she was caught beneath that guy by the Chairman, word must have got out to Nobu, who clearly did not take it well because he just exited the narrative.
Dear Lord, its been 7 years I have been looking for the particular song where Geisha's are dancing in pink (stage performance) before Sayuri's dance, starts at 2:04 in this video. Please tell me if anyone knows at all.
id say it is a take on the famous kamogawa odori! it is a famous dance which is performed once a year in Kyoto! It is usually performed at the kaburenjo! Although like so many things in THIS movie which are kind of radically different to how things truly are in the hanamachi in Kyoto... this dance certainly has its basis in the Kamogawa Odori!
@@DIJITALSON true it is radically different, but they knowingly did so, because its the art of storytelling, the actress are not geisha so in order to make people think they are talented, they make the movement more exaggerated and lavish. in the end they did succeed making us think these women are talented and it makes us understand more about their story and struggle, same goes for the costume, they actually did the traditional geisha makeup and hair but it doesnt look good on mameha, so they changed it to what u see in the movie, sayuri and hatsumomo do look good though. and even though its different, it still retains some reference or an iconic movement that kinda existed in the dance ex the back bend.
Hatsumomo was jealous because as Sayuri gained popularity, she was becoming more unhinged over the fact that she will fade into obscurity and that Pumpkin wasn't doing a good job.
glad my Grandmother was a Geisha back then, she taught me how to perform almost like this scene during my Elementary School Days lol Show and tell Assembly
@musicjunkie2891 I don't know what this particular song is, but the style of singing in it is called "Min'you". Maybe if you search on that, you can find something that sounds similar!
Wow I was amazed by this dance and its history .... my sisters cant relate coz they beat up their husband if caught cheating with snoop dog singin in background 😅
Just imagine if they actually made them act and appear like geisha and not some interpretation of them. I hate that i cant enjoy this because of the inaccuracies through out. like ugh.
I can't help but wonder....once a Geisha gets their patron and serve their master for life, what happens to the geisha once they reach their feeble and final years? Do they finally retire? Or do they have to continue serving their patron until they simply pass out and die from old age? 0_o I must know!!!
Geishas do not have a Master per se. They have a patron who will help them pay for expenses and such, but the patron never becomes a "master." Just a benefactor. The geisha can retire really whenever, depending on their financial circumstances and such. Mineko Iwasaki details this more in her autobiography Geisha, A Life. Iwasaki was actually the geisha interviewed for Memoirs of a Geisha, but the author horrendously misrepresented geisha culture in order to appeal to his western audience. As a result, Iwasaki took it upon herself to come out of anonymity to write about her actual experiences to dispel the falsehoods that Memoirs perpetuated.
At first my one friend was mocking this dance like he was like "Here she comes walking in cold ice" 3:41,"here she looks behind and guess what she saw,goat poop!" 3:48,"after seeing the goat poop she's like not today Satan" But then he really gets into the dance and his mouth was wide open at the end of it in surprise,he then was looking at me Like I just showed him some sacred treasure
Lol okay Morgan it's a movie about Japan played by a Chinese woman written and directed by Americans, it doesn't take a "Japanese trained in traditional dance" to tell it's going to be inaccurate
it is grotesque what do u expect, this is the art of storytelling, do u think people would think that she is talented by showing the original dance in less then 60 seconds ( the original dance would have been at least 15 minutes of her flaying around)
@@rozee2561 If you watch the film "The tea house of the august moon" made by an american director, you have a dance scene and the actress dancing is giving not only an accurate performance, but the performance, by even the strictest Japanese dance expert is absolutely spectacular. It is Buyo at its finest. So this has nothing to do with the nationality of the director or the actor, this has to do with they ethic and the quality of their work. When Lucy Liu or the other actors of Kill Bill give their speeches in japanese, there is a single inaccuracy. That's because Tarantino and Daniel Mann pay attention to those details. The problem with Sayuri is that it is a shitty film director by a shitty director who couldn't have given less of a fuck about the accuracy of the rendition, based on an even shittier book written by a shitty so called author, who also couldn't have given less of a fuck about accuracy.
In the book, this dance represents the story of a woman waiting under the snow for his husband, who is cheating her. The dance finish when the woman died by freezing and sorrow.
What a joke, if a geisha really performed they way that Sayuri does here - they would think she had gone crazy. Leave it to Hollywood to drag tradition down for entertainment. This is how real maiko and geiko should look th-cam.com/video/K4Dcy69QFwk/w-d-xo.html now compare it to the movie.
Although beautiful, this is nowhere close to an actual dance performance by a geisha or maiko..in traditional dances, each step is fixed n has a meaning (unlike the freestyle nonsense that Sayuri is doing)..also the idea is to highlight the beauty of the kimono, not run around like crazy n damage it
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I always loved that scene it was done so lovely she did such a beautiful job on it
How in God's NAME did she keep such perfect balance in those giant platform shoes!?
Aisha Cameron I don’t know. I’ll give her credit though...I would have fallen off and broken my nose! Or my ankle!
Aisha Cameron Lessons, learning any type of dance includes learning how to keep your balance. It's difficult but not impossible.
Shizz I kept fearing she would fall
Aisha Cameron Practice. ;)
They are modeled after Oiran geta. It takes practice. like anything.
Im gonna be honest this movie is beautiful but i never understood this snow dance
Missangelblanco a woman waiting for her husband in the snow, he is cheating on her and the dance ends when she dies frozen in grief.
(If I am mistaken let me know)
Esmeralda The Griffin wow how did you know that I didnt saw nothing of that
Missangelblanco someone told me
This dance is based on an old Chinese story that was mentioned in the novel. Although it was told in Japan, it was told the same way. It tells the story about a wife who caught her husband having an affair with a courtesan in his concubine. Heartbroken, the wife walked in the show and commits suicide.
Nope
Read the book
That back bend tho.
"SPRING DANCE"
Written by Masakazu Yoshizawa
Performed by Masakazu Yoshizawa and Hiromi Hashibe
KaraCarsafliGelin I can’t find it. Are you sure it’s spring garden???
alus nova well no it's not spring garden its spring DANCE.
I `ve got the information from the end credits
i love the transition of the hand from squeezingly strong to glass like feeble, hand itself says a lot of story, this dance is an art
I remember being younger and always practicing this dance lol I love it so beautiful and deep
The movie took many liberties, because it's actually Mameha who performed this dance in Chapter 23. Although never fully elaborated on, the dance on stage that Sayuri performs, tells the story of a woman who suspects her husband of infidelity, and waits outside in the snow to catch her husband leaving his mistress. Unfortunately, a blizzard sweeps over the land and she succumbs to the elements.
Inaccurate but still moving and beautiful. The music is incredible.
She was that crazy girl in rush hour the one that blow her self up at the end
Jenay Bowen Ziyi Zhang. She was also in Hero, House of flying daggers and Crouching tiger hidden dragon
The woman with fan knives is also there too
She looked so beautiful in the snow dance.
I actually liked Nobu. I felt bad for him
Too bad sayuri prefers the chairman
Me too. He seemed to be a good honorable man. Ironically he saved both of their lives.
I agree too- finally I found someone who wished things were different!
I believe in the book, he did try to look for her after the War. After she was caught beneath that guy by the Chairman, word must have got out to Nobu, who clearly did not take it well because he just exited the narrative.
Actually it's Mameha who does this solo dance in the book.
No it's not, it was Sayuri
lol how can people who read the book, forgot xD
Sayuris dance is about a mystic lover who dies for her sake.
@@tunaqueen1346 You didn't read the book, obviously. Mameha performed it in Chapter 23.
i love this movie!
Beautiful
It's one of my favorite book and subsequently my movies
Dear Lord, its been 7 years I have been looking for the particular song where Geisha's are dancing in pink (stage performance) before Sayuri's dance, starts at 2:04 in this video. Please tell me if anyone knows at all.
id say it is a take on the famous kamogawa odori! it is a famous dance which is performed once a year in Kyoto! It is usually performed at the kaburenjo! Although like so many things in THIS movie which are kind of radically different to how things truly are in the hanamachi in Kyoto... this dance certainly has its basis in the Kamogawa Odori!
also if you are interested in such songs - nagauta, nihonminyo etc should provide you with fantastic examples of similar songs
Have you tried looking at the credits at the end of the movie?
th-cam.com/video/n6CwzULoJdc/w-d-xo.html this is the traditional dance, it's called the gion odori
@@DIJITALSON true it is radically different, but they knowingly did so, because its the art of storytelling, the actress are not geisha so in order to make people think they are talented, they make the movement more exaggerated and lavish. in the end they did succeed making us think these women are talented and it makes us understand more about their story and struggle, same goes for the costume, they actually did the traditional geisha makeup and hair but it doesnt look good on mameha, so they changed it to what u see in the movie, sayuri and hatsumomo do look good though.
and even though its different, it still retains some reference or an iconic movement that kinda existed in the dance ex the back bend.
Hatsumoto must be seriously peeved off, lol haha :D
Nyala Chamberlain Hatsumomo?
Montana Polke its a character from the story.
Hatsumomo not hatsumoto lol
Hatsumomo was jealous because as Sayuri gained popularity, she was becoming more unhinged over the fact that she will fade into obscurity and that Pumpkin wasn't doing a good job.
glad my Grandmother was a Geisha back then, she taught me how to perform almost like this scene during my Elementary School Days lol Show and tell Assembly
Kelly Yamaguchi really?! Wow!
Lucky you, my grandma was already dead when I reach middle school. God bless her soul.
Kelly Yamaguchi that's amazing!
+kim beverly villalobos sorry to here that -_-
Kelly Yamaguchi can you explain to me dance performance in video? What is the meaning behind it?
Thank you both! :) :)
THOSE ARE SOME BIG SHOES
coco loco Those shoes are commonly used by the Oirans
Em Trang So they are actually prostitutes?
No, the women in this are Geisha, but the Oirans usually wear those shoes is what they mean.
She is a geisha,dancing about an oiran.
They are modeled after Oiran geta.
ziyi this is one of my favorite movie from you you dance graceful
In the book, Mameha did the dance and it was somehow an awakening for Sayuri. The adaptation of this film could have been better.
Mesmerizing
mindblowing
@musicjunkie2891 I don't know what this particular song is, but the style of singing in it is called "Min'you". Maybe if you search on that, you can find something that sounds similar!
what if Beyonce used those shoes while dancing SINGLE LADIES...
Nathaniel Philippe Bucu Aquino She probably break a bone
Nathaniel Philippe Bucu Aquino Beyomomo....or Hatsuyonce
Then Beyoncé's ankle will break. That would be "ouch!".
she could do that with her eyes closed
Nathaniel Philippe Bucu Aquino she wouldn’t last two seconds
I wish they taught women to be good to each other.
@ChiAura did you ever find out what it was? i'm about ready to rip my hair out because i can't find it.
It’s like japanesse chandelier
I'm really not deep enough to understand this art. I'll just go punch myself in the face
forevr caustic could you film that? sounds like something I’ll enjoy watching
Wait, in the book Mameha does the snow dance
Gong li is love 💕 loved her character
Lady gaga and she have skill to walk on that thing, beautiful movie
Not when Sayuri dances, but when all the other giesha in pink... Whats that song called?
wat is the name of the song the other geisha's are dancing to before saiyuri is shown gettin ready???
Christian Raddler th-cam.com/video/KGrllrqx8e0/w-d-xo.html check the discription, you can see the title and artist of the song
¿Hay alguna razón por la que una geisha esté utilizando calzado de una Oiran en un intento de kabuki?
oh my god!!! its the grudge!!!!!
Je kiff ce film
Moi aussi
Wow I was amazed by this dance and its history .... my sisters cant relate coz they beat up their husband if caught cheating with snoop dog singin in background 😅
4:43 When the bus suddenly stops
Does anyone know the name of the first song that plays at the beginning?
Just imagine if they actually made them act and appear like geisha and not some interpretation of them. I hate that i cant enjoy this because of the inaccuracies through out. like ugh.
walk a mile in these louis vuittons
I can't help but wonder....once a Geisha gets their patron and serve their master for life, what happens to the geisha once they reach their feeble and final years? Do they finally retire? Or do they have to continue serving their patron until they simply pass out and die from old age? 0_o I must know!!!
Geishas do not have a Master per se. They have a patron who will help them pay for expenses and such, but the patron never becomes a "master." Just a benefactor. The geisha can retire really whenever, depending on their financial circumstances and such.
Mineko Iwasaki details this more in her autobiography Geisha, A Life.
Iwasaki was actually the geisha interviewed for Memoirs of a Geisha, but the author horrendously misrepresented geisha culture in order to appeal to his western audience. As a result, Iwasaki took it upon herself to come out of anonymity to write about her actual experiences to dispel the falsehoods that Memoirs perpetuated.
Ah. This really helped! Thank you!
aurinkossa These technical 'patrons' are called danna
Hannah Judges You some geisha are in business until their 80’s. But I’m not sure. Maybe the danna helps them find somewhere comfortable to retire...?
@@inkheart151 Those old ladies are like superstars. I think they don´t need a danna, because they have enough clients, and perhaps charge more?
At first my one friend was mocking this dance like he was like
"Here she comes walking in cold ice"
3:41,"here she looks behind and guess what she saw,goat poop!"
3:48,"after seeing the goat poop she's like not today Satan"
But then he really gets into the dance and his mouth was wide open at the end of it in surprise,he then was looking at me Like I just showed him some sacred treasure
Watching this as a Japanese trained in traditional dances , this is absolutely hilarious . I mean it is beyond grotesque .
Lol okay Morgan it's a movie about Japan played by a Chinese woman written and directed by Americans, it doesn't take a "Japanese trained in traditional dance" to tell it's going to be inaccurate
when the director isn't japanese and probably isn't an expert in traditional japanese dance, expect the inaccuracy.
it is grotesque what do u expect, this is the art of storytelling, do u think people would think that she is talented by showing the original dance in less then 60 seconds ( the original dance would have been at least 15 minutes of her flaying around)
@@angelabby2379 No this is grotesque because this has NOTHING to do with traditional Japanese dance.
@@rozee2561 If you watch the film "The tea house of the august moon" made by an american director, you have a dance scene and the actress dancing is giving not only an accurate performance, but the performance, by even the strictest Japanese dance expert is absolutely spectacular. It is Buyo at its finest. So this has nothing to do with the nationality of the director or the actor, this has to do with they ethic and the quality of their work.
When Lucy Liu or the other actors of Kill Bill give their speeches in japanese, there is a single inaccuracy. That's because Tarantino and Daniel Mann pay attention to those details. The problem with Sayuri is that it is a shitty film director by a shitty director who couldn't have given less of a fuck about the accuracy of the rendition, based on an even shittier book written by a shitty so called author, who also couldn't have given less of a fuck about accuracy.
What are thooooooose!!!!!
HAHAHAHA
Isn't it supposed to be Oiran's shoes, not Geisha's shoes?
no. oiran wear koma geta. they have three forks
3:43. she turned her head back.
i also like gong li
@TheMetapod LOL I KNOW
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Was she having a sezure?
what is the name of the song at 2:04?
Someone told me the character she plays on the stage is actually that of an Oiran falling from grace. Not sure its true though.
uh... no. she definitely isnt playing an oiran.
It's about a heron lady that got sent to hell for being so jealous over a man she cannot love.
she is posing like me 3:51.
sagi musume tamasaburo shimae soto hachi moji.
I thought she was drunk or something...
Labuh sia
6 months and still no answer....
slamerrill now six years
3:38.
3:36.
무서워
Hatsumomo does strike me as bisexual. 💜
I say, what’s with all those red lit lanterns? 🤷🏻♀️
what is depicted in this dance? some folk tale or something else?
Latika Sharma I was thinking about the legend of the queen of snow OwO but I'm not sure at all...
In the book, this dance represents the story of a woman waiting under the snow for his husband, who is cheating her. The dance finish when the woman died by freezing and sorrow.
Reminds me of the Yuki Onna
Annie K that’s sad....☹️
Latika Sharma There’s an excellent recording on here showing the Kabuki play this came from, complete with English narration.
Isn’t Gong Li way older than her character is supposed to be?
She was 40 when she played Hatsumomo but we don't really know how old is the character
@@a.g.demada5263 I'm pretty sure the book said Hatsumomo was in her 20s at some point.
@@Sawrattan I don't remember that but it's possible because in the movie, Auntie mentionned Hatsumomo managed to pay her debt when she was 20
She doesn't look it.
The hair is more of Chinese fashion thab Japanese.
A geisha woundn't really act like they want ti gain a man's or somones attention for love or lust
Gejsu uce da igra , lepo hoda da bude zenstvena . Ona nema nikakve odnose sa onima koji je gledaju . Nedodiruju je .
Gong Li
The Witch
Mulan
What a joke, if a geisha really performed they way that Sayuri does here - they would think she had gone crazy. Leave it to Hollywood to drag tradition down for entertainment. This is how real maiko and geiko should look th-cam.com/video/K4Dcy69QFwk/w-d-xo.html now compare it to the movie.
Although beautiful, this is nowhere close to an actual dance performance by a geisha or maiko..in traditional dances, each step is fixed n has a meaning (unlike the freestyle nonsense that Sayuri is doing)..also the idea is to highlight the beauty of the kimono, not run around like crazy n damage it