I know Michelle Yeoh because she is a good friend of my mother in law, and once she told me that when they did this scene she was furious at the director and the staff because on chicken got killed and the other got a broken leg. She demanded that the one with the broken leg was taken to a veterinarian and that the dead one was cooked and eaten by the staff. She said that if they didn't conform to her request she would leave the set right there and then and would not return. Michelle Yeoh is vegetarian but she said that she has often been invited to restaurants by people who don't know she is and always ate whatever meat was served to her with tears in her heart, because the worse thing than eating what she was served would be to refuse it and risking having it thrown away. Then the animal would have really died for nothing. I already liked her but the day she told me that, she became my hero.
I believe in this way for vegetariana to be consecuent with their beliefs on life being sacred. If the animal is already dead and is going to be thrown away if they don't eat it (provided no one else Will) then its more disrespectful for the animal to have died for nothing
@@lovelyfrancesquita6603 A friend of mine who is a vegetarian would put the meat to the side and take it to her work or church or give it to a friend for the same concept. She understands that some animals are only bred and raised to be eaten, and as bad as that is it would be pointless for their existence if they weren't eaten and wasted.
You can actually see the chicken get killed. I remember watching this when it came out, one of my favorite movies but that part always made sad, because I knew one of the chickens got hurt.
There is a fact with the film Sunshine, where Danny Boyle was so delighted with her acting at the screen tests that they allowed her to choose any role and rewrite the script for her.
According to DVD commentary, there was a conscious design effort made by the art direction team to include elements of water whenever possible for Sayuri to reflect the ‘water of her eyes’ bc water is the most adaptable of the elements (and also considered the most powerful bc it can work to tame or build up the other element’s)
@@cazia9 Efforts on what ? That's literally how geisha and maiko wear their kimono. They should have made more efforts to make accurate hairstyles on the other hand...
@@shizukagozen777 art direction - set design of the environments the action takes place in Costume design is a whole other element which I was not referencing
The title says 'transformation into a Geisha.' Ironically in this clip, Ichiyo/Sayuri (ZiYi Zhang) is not yet a Geisha, but a 'Maiko.' Her make ups, her accessories & the kimono she wore; were all in Maiko style. Geishas don't wear that much of make ups & accessories and a Geisha's kimono is very different. P/S; Maiko is a term for the apprentice of a Geiko/Geisha.
What's sad about Hollywood is when they cast foreign actors they keep casting the same actor again and again and again for everything. It's like there were no other asian women alive in the industry during that 4-5 year period. These 2 and Ken Watanabe were literally in all movies where an asian was needed. It got boring. It's so lazy and narrowminded.
THANK YOU. They'd rather hire a Korean actress and a Chinese actress for the main roles of a story about an important part of Japanese culture just because they're more famous instead of hiring a Japanese cast (which they obviously made no effort researching since there were so many famous Japanese actresses at the time and not to mention it would have avoided an unnecessary cost of training the said actresses to speak Japanese and catch a Japanese accent). It has a disturbing "meh they all look the same anyway, now let's talk money" vibe to it which is a little too common in Hollywood.
Big names sell movies. It's honestly not that deep. And to ignore how amazing of an actress Michelle yeoh is a disservice. She works hard and is talented. I'm very happy for her. The actual sad thing about Hollywood is that there aren't many roles to go around for people of colour. To let smaller names get bigger over time naturally. To blame a top actress like Michelle yeoh for her taking her rightful place as a bankable actress in the industry saying it's taking from other that could be casted instead is small minded!
But I also hear that no Japanese actress will take on the role since Geisha's world is a well kept secret and important culture that they were afraid to sullied those things and getting bad feedback from japanese citizens.
@@Janedoesasmr1 actually they tried to search for japanese actresses that would take the roles of sayuri mameha and hatsumomo but all refused. The general sentiment of the japanese public is that a. It was a secretive world and they didn't want it to be exposed through a western lens b. That the west usually assumed geishas as prostitutes so they didn't want the stigma to be floating around and c. Many actresses thought that taking on the role would bring them criticism so it wasn't worth it. In the end the filmmakers decided to open up the casting to other asians and that how we got the actual female cast
I watched this movie as a kid, and even then I remember feeling so sad for her and for every woman in the movie.... what a limited life... to me this was never a pretty film, it was always tragic
I read the book before the movie was made and it is heart wrenching. I recommend everyone read it because it explains so much that the movie can't. There are a lot of heavy themes.
I absolutely loved the book, memoirs of a geisha. I loved it so much I looked more into the history and found out that the the author did not respect the original story. I then read quickly, The Geisha of Gion, by Mineko Iwasaki-by whom this story was based off of. I loved her story even more. Please give it a go if you liked this story.
They really took some liberties to make geisha look more westernized because its clear the costume designers and director valued aesthetic over accuracy. I'm aware they toned down a lot of how a maiko and geisha really appear due to thinking it would scare western audiences but this entire film and the portrayal of geisha during that time period is such a drastic oversight filled with unnecessary melodrama under the guise of this being a memoir when it is a man who made up things about a real geisha to sensationalize the profession he failed to understand.
@@ultron374 All oiran were high class, its an umbrella term for high class courtesans it ignores their actual unique ranks like Koshi, Tayuu, and Yobidashi-chuusan (not in order of anything). The term "Oiran" just lumps them all together. The lower class or common ones were called yujo. Some geisha also practiced as yujo in country areas or poor districts of Japan typically onsen.
@@janebelikoff206 Well- all of them are trying to tell a story while not focusing entirely on geisha as a whole - rather the individual. The best documentary might be anyone of them featuring actual geisha, but stay clear of anything with arthur golden. the 2013 documentary "becoming a geisha" on BBC is perfect. also not terrible but The Secret World of Geisha is decent. My favorite one is about a proprietress of a restaurant that often hosts geisha and their clients but I dont think its on youtube anymore. Another good one is Being a Maiko: Kyoto's Fukunae-san
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Жаль, что большая часть истории - ложь. Понимание этого всегда огорчает меня, когда я смотрю этот фильм, не смотря на то, что он очень красивый. Жаль, что автор книги исказила реальную историю.
As someone who have watched this for the first time, I am stunned by her beauty, and also for the build up of her clips of slowly dressing to become a geisha is just so impactful + the music
I almost forgot... can we get a shout out for young Sazuka Ohgo, who played Chiyo with incredible charm? What a beautiful little girl she was in this. You just want to gather her up and adopt her.
I thought the same thing!!!!! Lol Ken Watanabe is the only lead Japanese actor in this movie but my guess is because they both got a huge come up from Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon they wanted to put well known actors in the movie as opposed to unknowns who nobody recognised
@@todoroki3781 because the Japanese wouldn't audition for this movie. Its banned over there for its historical inaccuracies. And the author of the book is hated for taking advantage of and lieing about geisha.
Remember: MoaG is a work of fiction. Sayuri and all of the characters are made up, Golden did this so that if he had a slip up or failed to understand something culture wise, the fiction part comes into play. He admitted to filling in details and making things up and went as far to say that he did not use Mineko as a direct source only inspiration. I personally think he may have used Sayo Masuda's story as the real inspiration for Sayuri and her geisha sister as Pumpkin but didn't credit Sayo. There are more parallels with moag and Sayo's autobiography than there are with Mineko Iwasaki. Sayo, was not a famous geisha in Kyoto so her story didnt have the draw I suppose. She was an average onsen geisha in Suwa, Nagano, Japan pre WWII and she had very little positives in her life; Mineko was the complete opposite. Iwasaki was near royalty even before her tenure ship as a geiko began and she belonged to a higher class hanamachi unlike Sayo. I do not think Golden ever intended to tell an accurate account of Mineko's life which is where I think the problems arose. She likely assumed he was wanting to know about her life and experiences in details but in reality he had a predetermined idea of the narrative of his story. - He also had Liza Dalby's expertise, but did little to use her knowledge appropriately or because moag is a work of fiction maybe he felt he could get away with more. Golden has stated in the past that his book is accurate but the characters are made up but we know that his book and accounts are not accurate because he cannot know what life in Kyoto was like pre WWII. I think much of what he fails to understand or relate on paper was simply lost in translation. He writes the entire story with an overtly negative tone, which I think is his overall view of the geisha as a whole. Otherwise, I feel he would approach it in a neutral matter of fact way in the way that Liza Dalby does in her book Geisha.
I didn't notice it when I first watched this movie, but they really westernized her makeup here which is sad. In the books they are still doing the half moon lip where you only mark your lower lip and leave the upper one white. Her eye makeup is also obviously western liner and mascara. Geisha switch to using that style of makeup after the war in the book, sans white face makeup. I believe the robe is technically wrong too. You can't wear a robe that drags along the ground when you're running around the streets of Gion. I'm pretty sure those dresses were special for dance performances.
2:30 Her kanzashi is westernized too, inaccurate but still beautiful, cause if it was accurate it wouldn't be made of fake flowers but folded silk ones instead, also, I don't think there are any orchid kanzashi that geisha wear.
Youki Kudoh auditioned for the role of Sayuri, but she got the role of pumpkin instead. Out of all the main geisha/maiko in the movie, she was the only Japanese actress.
I read that alot of japanese did not even audition and that it was banned in Japan because it was so inaccurate. I also learned the author was sued by the real geisha's because of the liberties he took when writing.
This scene has zero Japanese aesthetic. The movie should have been called Memoirs of a Foreign Geisha. It's just too big of a misrepresentation of anything Japanese.
@@xena3474 Same w/ me, I read the book when I was 13, I'm now 21, this movie brings me back memories of my Japanese culture phase, I even bought a kimono and some kanzashi (the hairpins they wear) because of this movie.
The transformation was much more explanatory in the book, the movie barely touches it And Mamea is always shown with no makeup, as a geisha she’d always wear the appropriate makeup to parties. Men paid to be dazzled as well as entertained, plain Jane just wouldn’t make any money
Well, if Hollywood wants to fantasize and modernize looks with queens and kings, I guess there’s no limit to taking liberties with 1920s geisha. Still, I have to say this scene is aesthetically pleasing….
@@inkheart151 this was the 1930s and 40s, and they certainly took liberties when geisha are all about appearing traditional. the movie makes them very westernized.
This is one of those instances where the book is a lot better than the movie. I understand it’s two different mediums and I usually think of books and movies as two separate and distinct things bc most adaptations are loosely based on their source material and make big changes or leave a lot out, but I didn’t feel like this movie brought the source material alive at all. I saw it once and read the book at least six times. I couldn’t put the book down. I was working long shifts the first time I read this book and I remember reading it on every break I got and sometimes reading it when I wasn’t busy. I didn’t want to put it down at all. I found the movie to be boring and I was disappointed bc I liked the book so much. If I remember right there weren’t a whole lot of changes, it just didn’t come alive. The way it was done made it seem boring to me. The characters weren’t at all like I imagined them to be and it just didn’t hit like the book did.
The book is just as bad as the film since both do not properly represent geisha. It's a known fact that the author changed much of the subjects original accounts to make them more sad and melodramatic he even admitted to "filling in the gaps" on parts that she didn't disclose in her life and entirely making up the mizuage part. This story is based on one of the most illustrious geisha districts that did not engage in this practice. She has come forth to say that this story poorly reflects her accounts and time as a geisha and in her words it was "an injustice" to her life.
There have been many people who have written the author, asking whatever happened to Sayuri. This is fiction, people... she never existed. One of my top ten favorite movies of all time.
@@kayleighbrown965 no, she didn't... the geisha that sayuri is based off of did... the woman that arthur golden got his info from. but sayuri herself is a fictional character.
Sayuri is based off of two distinct geisha: Mineko Iwasaki and Sayo Masuda. Mineko was the most popular geisha from Kyoto during the 1960s and 70s. She even entertained Audrey Hepburn, Prince Charles and Twiggy. She lived the life of a celebrity essentially, and had a hot and cold affair with a Japanese movie star who pursued her for a decade before they got together - after they ended the relationship they remained good friends until his death. She was not forced to sell her virginity and in her words her career as a geisha was largely positive. Sayo Masuda was a tragic geisha during the 40s and 50s. She was sold into a poor geisha house in Nagoya where she was abused and beaten, and sold under the false pretenses of being a virgin at least 3 times to different men. She witnessed the death of another geisha who allowed herself to die due to toxic shock poisoning from an untreated STD. She survived alcoholism after her best friend and former geisha sister died suddenly. She nearly got married to a well off man, who treated her with nothing but respect and kindness but he could not publicly announce his engagement to her due to it possibly ruining his reputation as mayor elect due to her being an onsen geisha - onsen geisha often acted as yujo or licensed prostitutes.
A japanese grilfriend of mine said to me that I was a little afraid of going to watch this movie at the moment it was released because of the American distorted vision of the japanese world. She said it was because she had earlier watched The Last Samurai (with Tom Cruise) and she didn't liked it at all because of that... I can relate as a Spaniard when I watched Mission:Impossible 2 (also with Tom Cruise) and Knight & Day (yeah, Tom Cruise again) when they showed a surrealistic mixture of Seville, Valencia and Pamplona's very different traditions and festivities... I remember the laughter in the audience in front of that all-American utter ignorance.
A “real” Geisha world is almost really forbidden to talk about for them & forgotten, now a days it’s a “tourist attraction”, but it’s not what a simple Geisha would talk about. This movie is based on the novel. Stop taking things so serious.
I recently visited Gion in Kyoto, Japan and saw some working maiko and I can tell you, the makeup, hair, 5 inch shoes, gorgeous kimono-- as she walked past every single person including myself stopped and stared
That was wax they were dipping the comb into. She’s supposed to sleep with her head up to keep the hair. They stopped doing that because it caused their hair to fall out. Now they use wigs
Years later, I cannot get over how inaccurate the hairstyles are and how sloppy their kimono look. The only real Japanese actors and actresses are all supporting and the mains are all Chinese. Pumpkin, the only Japanese actress to play a maiko/geisha in this movie, had the only near authentic appearance of a real geisha. Was this a deliberate choice of the director? The Chinese actresses’ hairstyles were so glaringly inaccurate, anyone who’s actually seen a geisha would know right away.
The problem is that they couldn't find Japanese actresses for the film because they didn't speak English and didn't want to learn it. This was the situation with the film Kill Bill, when Japanese actresses refused the role of Gogo due to the fact that they did not know English, where only after Tarantino himself assured that the role would not require knowledge of English, they finally found an actress.
People complaining about how they have the same Chinese actresses in many movies during this period and should have allowed other actors in these role don’t understand how many films are made. These actors paved the way to allow for Asian films to be shown and made due to their success and talent because these films were created with them in mind as the talent. If they can’t guarantee a film will be profitable then it wouldn’t be made. There’s more people who work on a film than just actors and actresses. Additionally, the film is based on a book written by a Caucasian guy so I am not sure what authenticity you are looking for. The role of an actor and a story teller is to play a part and to write a story.
Geisha must also learn how to play musical instruments and dance. They must learn to pour tea and talk to men in private dining areas. This takes approx x2 years to learn.
In the late 90's when this movie was made, the world wasn't so fucking uptight with a stick up their ass about everything like they are today. You could still make and enjoy satirical movies like those from Mel Brooks. I mean a movie like Blazing Saddles had Richard Pryor as one of the principal writers of the film. We used to be able to laugh as a society and enjoy ourselves. Now we have people charging the stage and assaulting comedians because they can't laugh. So tell me in all 100% honesty. Does it really actually matter that a Chinese actress plays the roll of a Japanese woman from 100 years ago? Be honest! No it doesn't matter and you know it. Why because at the end of the day, IT'S A MOVIE!!!! It's not a documentary by David Attenborough on the life and times of a Geisha. It's a fictional story, like the Batman movies. So no it doesn't matter, they could have used anybody they wanted. It's their movie. If you don't like it, nobody is making you watch it. Get over yourself.
Dont like it dont watch it xd I personally think the acting is much more important. Otherwise people will start to think that race is more important than skill.
There is also the fact this movie was banned in Japan for its historical inaccuracies as well as the author of the book being hated as well for all the lies he printed in the book as well. There were very few if any Japanese that auditioned for this movie.
That " look" they say- when women glimpses a man then drops her eyes- is said to be the look to stop man in his track in general. And you don't have to be geisha to do it. The look speaks of invitation, yet timidness and innocence, mystery and intrigue. It is but a second but it hides so many secrets, secrets that man wants to find out. It is an art of seduction, the first step to invite man to courting., to interest him and to catch his eye.
As Japanese, it hurts my patriotism lol I feel almost ashamed to watch this Japanese cultural movie with Chinese actresses. Don't get me wrong I'm not against them. They are absolutely beautiful!
In 1999, I took my Japanese girlfriend to Kyoto, where she dressed as a Maiko. We walked around old Kyoto for a few hours, where we were stopped by a magazine photographer, who took photos of us together. We were sent the travel magazine containing our pictures.... On the 3rd of August, we celebrate 22years of marriage... She is and will always be my “Maiko-san”....💕💕
As a Maiko, shouldn't she have more kanzashi in her hair? Especially for her debut? I've never seen a Maiko with only one. Also her hair is WAY too flat to her head for a Maiko or Geisha. It's also kind of annoying that the film always uses the term Geisha even when she's clearly a Maiko.
@Remi4Eva Yeah, a Maiko is an apprentice Geisha that is going to the parties and making contacts while still taking the lessons and learning the craft. Their kimonos and jewelry are on loan from their teachers as they haven't earned enough to buy their own, yet. Considering she's only just gotten the hair style (inaccurate as it was) and this was her first time going out in public on a job, she SHOULD be a Maiko. 🤷🏻♀
Japanese people find it extremely distasteful when Chinese people play the role of Japanese people to represent what Westerners consider to be Japanese culture. This film is just such a case.
@@no.1fan156 I LOVE Japanese culture and their customs. And as finicky and fussy as I am about food, I love Japanese food. I really enjoyed the film, I found it to be really super interesting. There is a channel here on TH-cam that talks about everything Japan. Like for example, what the Japanese think about tourism in their country,,,,what the Japanese think about other customs from other places,,,,, what the Japanese do when your speaking Japanese and you mess up your words,,,,what Japanese think about blonde people,,,,,etc. but absolutely EVERYTHING is always negative,,,, Japanese people hate this they hate that, the weather is awful, Japanese films are awful, Japanese people hate Americans,,,,they hate me they hate you,,, so I just unsubscribed, as it was just way too negative for me. But I would love a channel like that that would talk all about Japanese culture etc, and NOT be so negative about absolutely EVERYTHING.
The old lady striking the flint and saying “For Luck”, made me think of the grandma from the animated Disney movie from Mulan who gave Mulan a cricket for luck.
Asian and Eastern culture gas always impressed me eventi if i'm a western but i appriciated and all those things that they sais and do and this movie is the best example to discribed
I'm kinda upset they didn't hire the right race for this. I grew up in Japan and can tell the difference between Asians. She ain't Japanese. (Not talking about the geisha)
This came in my recommendation. I always knew this film existed but never watch. it didnt seem to attract me that much. but love reading everyones comments here. i know i can google but id love if any of u who loves this film so much tell me synopsis. As i love reading it. Tq in advance.
i do prefer the part in the book where Chio began training young and worked with Mameha for years. But I understand why they wanted to accelrate things here
I love the book & the movie a lot. This movie is so beautiful, but I agree that so many things are inaccurate in this movie. Hairdo/hairstyle, make up, even the geisha culture. The author, Golden, caused misconception & misunderstanding about Geisha. He also ruined Mineko Iwasaki’s name & her relationship with the geisha’s world.
Actually yes. Some who live in thr Mongolian and East Siberian regions have blue eyes and blonde hair despite having prominent "East Asian" facial features like monolid eyes and short nose.
@@Whats_in_a_name_1 We should do some research, but so far all we know is that he is a pure product from the south Kyoto and Nagasaki. His mother is a former Geisha born in Pontocho, with a family originally from Nagasaki, and his father is descending from the Taira clan in the Ise province.
I love the book too, but I always read it knowing that it was mostly pure fiction and not indicative of geisha life at all. I open it expecting that, and am not disappointed that way. I have other books by Liza Dalby and Mineko Iwasaki for when I want to read about how it REALLY was to be a geisha.
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I know Michelle Yeoh because she is a good friend of my mother in law, and once she told me that when they did this scene she was furious at the director and the staff because on chicken got killed and the other got a broken leg.
She demanded that the one with the broken leg was taken to a veterinarian and that the dead one was cooked and eaten by the staff. She said that if they didn't conform to her request she would leave the set right there and then and would not return.
Michelle Yeoh is vegetarian but she said that she has often been invited to restaurants by people who don't know she is and always ate whatever meat was served to her with tears in her heart, because the worse thing than eating what she was served would be to refuse it and risking having it thrown away. Then the animal would have really died for nothing.
I already liked her but the day she told me that, she became my hero.
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I believe in this way for vegetariana to be consecuent with their beliefs on life being sacred. If the animal is already dead and is going to be thrown away if they don't eat it (provided no one else Will) then its more disrespectful for the animal to have died for nothing
@@lovelyfrancesquita6603 A friend of mine who is a vegetarian would put the meat to the side and take it to her work or church or give it to a friend for the same concept. She understands that some animals are only bred and raised to be eaten, and as bad as that is it would be pointless for their existence if they weren't eaten and wasted.
You can actually see the chicken get killed. I remember watching this when it came out, one of my favorite movies but that part always made sad, because I knew one of the chickens got hurt.
I forgot Michelle Yeoh was in this movie. She's again an AMAZING actress.
There is a fact with the film Sunshine, where Danny Boyle was so delighted with her acting at the screen tests that they allowed her to choose any role and rewrite the script for her.
She was also in "Strike Back" (as a villain) and she was INCREDIBLE!
She's top class actress, I was drawn to her more than the whole story
I've heard that she was quite arrogant towards flight attendants like "don't you know who I am?!?!" type. She sends huge Ellen Degeneres vibes to me.
Your comment is a contradiction in terms !
0:55 I only just realised how their clothes, while they walk, mimic the fish tails in the fish bowl. Amazing
Good observation!
Wow if only I was good at observing such good filmography...
According to DVD commentary, there was a conscious design effort made by the art direction team to include elements of water whenever possible for Sayuri to reflect the ‘water of her eyes’ bc water is the most adaptable of the elements (and also considered the most powerful bc it can work to tame or build up the other element’s)
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Efforts on what ? That's literally how geisha and maiko wear their kimono. They should have made more efforts to make accurate hairstyles on the other hand...
@@shizukagozen777 art direction - set design of the environments the action takes place in
Costume design is a whole other element which I was not referencing
The title says 'transformation into a Geisha.' Ironically in this clip, Ichiyo/Sayuri (ZiYi Zhang) is not yet a Geisha, but a 'Maiko.' Her make ups, her accessories & the kimono she wore; were all in Maiko style. Geishas don't wear that much of make ups & accessories and a Geisha's kimono is very different.
P/S; Maiko is a term for the apprentice of a Geiko/Geisha.
She is still transforming into a geisha, she starts as a maiko but her goal is to become a geisha so it’s not wrong
Sim realmente esse filme teve, muitos erros.
Yeah, but she is transforming here.
When you simply MUST show off that you know something.😂😂😂
Are you this annoying offline
What's sad about Hollywood is when they cast foreign actors they keep casting the same actor again and again and again for everything. It's like there were no other asian women alive in the industry during that 4-5 year period. These 2 and Ken Watanabe were literally in all movies where an asian was needed. It got boring. It's so lazy and narrowminded.
THANK YOU. They'd rather hire a Korean actress and a Chinese actress for the main roles of a story about an important part of Japanese culture just because they're more famous instead of hiring a Japanese cast (which they obviously made no effort researching since there were so many famous Japanese actresses at the time and not to mention it would have avoided an unnecessary cost of training the said actresses to speak Japanese and catch a Japanese accent). It has a disturbing "meh they all look the same anyway, now let's talk money" vibe to it which is a little too common in Hollywood.
Big names sell movies. It's honestly not that deep. And to ignore how amazing of an actress Michelle yeoh is a disservice. She works hard and is talented. I'm very happy for her. The actual sad thing about Hollywood is that there aren't many roles to go around for people of colour. To let smaller names get bigger over time naturally. To blame a top actress like Michelle yeoh for her taking her rightful place as a bankable actress in the industry saying it's taking from other that could be casted instead is small minded!
But I also hear that no Japanese actress will take on the role since Geisha's world is a well kept secret and important culture that they were afraid to sullied those things and getting bad feedback from japanese citizens.
@@Janedoesasmr1 actually they tried to search for japanese actresses that would take the roles of sayuri mameha and hatsumomo but all refused. The general sentiment of the japanese public is that a. It was a secretive world and they didn't want it to be exposed through a western lens b. That the west usually assumed geishas as prostitutes so they didn't want the stigma to be floating around and c. Many actresses thought that taking on the role would bring them criticism so it wasn't worth it. In the end the filmmakers decided to open up the casting to other asians and that how we got the actual female cast
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I watched this movie as a kid, and even then I remember feeling so sad for her and for every woman in the movie.... what a limited life... to me this was never a pretty film, it was always tragic
@Reghan Mineko Iwasaki wrote her own book, actually! It's interesting.
I read the book before the movie was made and it is heart wrenching. I recommend everyone read it because it explains so much that the movie can't. There are a lot of heavy themes.
In real life it is very different. I'd recommend watching some videos on here about real Maiko / Geisha / Geiko and what their lives look like.
I absolutely loved the book, memoirs of a geisha. I loved it so much I looked more into the history and found out that the the author did not respect the original story. I then read quickly, The Geisha of Gion, by Mineko Iwasaki-by whom this story was based off of. I loved her story even more. Please give it a go if you liked this story.
They really took some liberties to make geisha look more westernized because its clear the costume designers and director valued aesthetic over accuracy.
I'm aware they toned down a lot of how a maiko and geisha really appear due to thinking it would scare western audiences but this entire film and the portrayal of geisha during that time period is such a drastic oversight filled with unnecessary melodrama under the guise of this being a memoir when it is a man who made up things about a real geisha to sensationalize the profession he failed to understand.
True, geisha was just for entertainment purposes- dancing, singing, arts but oiran was a high class prostitute ( well, not all were that high class)
@@ultron374 All oiran were high class, its an umbrella term for high class courtesans it ignores their actual unique ranks like Koshi, Tayuu, and Yobidashi-chuusan (not in order of anything). The term "Oiran" just lumps them all together. The lower class or common ones were called yujo. Some geisha also practiced as yujo in country areas or poor districts of Japan typically onsen.
are there any historically accurate and interesting geisha movies/documentaries you would recommend? or even ones about Japanese history in general?
@@janebelikoff206 Well- all of them are trying to tell a story while not focusing entirely on geisha as a whole - rather the individual. The best documentary might be anyone of them featuring actual geisha, but stay clear of anything with arthur golden. the 2013 documentary "becoming a geisha" on BBC is perfect. also not terrible but The Secret World of Geisha is decent. My favorite one is about a proprietress of a restaurant that often hosts geisha and their clients but I dont think its on youtube anymore. Another good one is Being a Maiko: Kyoto's Fukunae-san
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They drove off.[...]
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The Concrete Mixer by Ray Bradbury
One of the many beautiful scenes in this movie. And this movie is basically made up of every possible beautiful scene you can think of
Жаль, что большая часть истории - ложь. Понимание этого всегда огорчает меня, когда я смотрю этот фильм, не смотря на то, что он очень красивый. Жаль, что автор книги исказила реальную историю.
As someone who have watched this for the first time, I am stunned by her beauty, and also for the build up of her clips of slowly dressing to become a geisha is just so impactful + the music
I almost forgot... can we get a shout out for young Sazuka Ohgo, who played Chiyo with incredible charm? What a beautiful little girl she was in this. You just want to gather her up and adopt her.
... you mean suzuka?
I'm Japanese and one of Ziyi and Michelle's big Fan, but it's weird to watch these movies which non-Japanese playing as Japanese...
I thought the same thing!!!!! Lol Ken Watanabe is the only lead Japanese actor in this movie but my guess is because they both got a huge come up from Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon they wanted to put well known actors in the movie as opposed to unknowns who nobody recognised
Ralph Fiennes played a German Nazi. Daniel Day Lewis played a native American. Ben Kingsley played an Indian in a loincloth. It's called ACTING.
@@Model_Roe and Youki Kudoh
I'm so confused...why did they choose non Japanese people to play Japanese
@@todoroki3781 because the Japanese wouldn't audition for this movie. Its banned over there for its historical inaccuracies. And the author of the book is hated for taking advantage of and lieing about geisha.
Remember: MoaG is a work of fiction.
Sayuri and all of the characters are made up, Golden did this so that if he had a slip up or failed to understand something culture wise, the fiction part comes into play.
He admitted to filling in details and making things up and went as far to say that he did not use Mineko as a direct source only inspiration.
I personally think he may have used Sayo Masuda's story as the real inspiration for Sayuri and her geisha sister as Pumpkin but didn't credit Sayo. There are more parallels with moag and Sayo's autobiography than there are with Mineko Iwasaki.
Sayo, was not a famous geisha in Kyoto so her story didnt have the draw I suppose. She was an average onsen geisha in Suwa, Nagano, Japan pre WWII and she had very little positives in her life; Mineko was the complete opposite. Iwasaki was near royalty even before her tenure ship as a geiko began and she belonged to a higher class hanamachi unlike Sayo.
I do not think Golden ever intended to tell an accurate account of Mineko's life which is where I think the problems arose. She likely assumed he was wanting to know about her life and experiences in details but in reality he had a predetermined idea of the narrative of his story.
- He also had Liza Dalby's expertise, but did little to use her knowledge appropriately or because moag is a work of fiction maybe he felt he could get away with more. Golden has stated in the past that his book is accurate but the characters are made up but we know that his book and accounts are not accurate because he cannot know what life in Kyoto was like pre WWII. I think much of what he fails to understand or relate on paper was simply lost in translation. He writes the entire story with an overtly negative tone, which I think is his overall view of the geisha as a whole. Otherwise, I feel he would approach it in a neutral matter of fact way in the way that Liza Dalby does in her book Geisha.
The background score is beautiful. It's perfect for the aesthetic of the movie
JOHN WILLIAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My favorite scene😍😍😍 She has blossomed so beautifully, and continued to grow ever so powerfully there after
I didn't notice it when I first watched this movie, but they really westernized her makeup here which is sad. In the books they are still doing the half moon lip where you only mark your lower lip and leave the upper one white. Her eye makeup is also obviously western liner and mascara.
Geisha switch to using that style of makeup after the war in the book, sans white face makeup.
I believe the robe is technically wrong too. You can't wear a robe that drags along the ground when you're running around the streets of Gion. I'm pretty sure those dresses were special for dance performances.
2:30 Her kanzashi is westernized too, inaccurate but still beautiful, cause if it was accurate it wouldn't be made of fake flowers but folded silk ones instead, also, I don't think there are any orchid kanzashi that geisha wear.
Accurate or not I love this movie
Let this be a sign to watch this movie. It is visually STUNNING and the story is so good!
Read the book, the movie is as beautiful as the book even if the ending is different
I love this movie so much. Beautifully done
i knew this would pop up in my homepage after the name “hatsumomo” kept replaying in my mind 😂😂 she’s so evil but i get her.
I can't understand why they couldn't find a real Japanese actress to play these roles lol.
Youki Kudoh auditioned for the role of Sayuri, but she got the role of pumpkin instead.
Out of all the main geisha/maiko in the movie, she was the only Japanese actress.
Yeah it looks really off that they cast non-Japanese people, and on top of that type casting actresses with a specific kind of face and body.
I read that alot of japanese did not even audition and that it was banned in Japan because it was so inaccurate. I also learned the author was sued by the real geisha's because of the liberties he took when writing.
It's Hollyweird. What did you expect? Randall Park was playing a Chinese in Fresh Off the Boat.
This scene has zero Japanese aesthetic. The movie should have been called Memoirs of a Foreign Geisha. It's just too big of a misrepresentation of anything Japanese.
Just watched this movie the other day , and it’s just amazing to look at , love it ❤️❤️❤️
Where did you watch it? I've always wanted to see it
Between Zhang Ziyi, Michelle Yeoh and Gong Li ... you have a movie starring three of the most beautiful women on the planet.
This is truly one of the best movies ever made. A real piece of art. I cannot possibly counf how many times I've seen it and I cannot get enough
Compared to Tokyo Bordello, this looks like a cheap knock off. THAT film was utter beauty.
I loved the book and the movie ❤️
I seriously want that makeup box🥰😂
That'd be a pain to bring around
I agree, for me the book was an experience! Nostalgic now...
@@xena3474 Same w/ me, I read the book when I was 13, I'm now 21, this movie brings me back memories of my Japanese culture phase, I even bought a kimono and some kanzashi (the hairpins they wear) because of this movie.
The transformation was much more explanatory in the book, the movie barely touches it
And Mamea is always shown with no makeup, as a geisha she’d always wear the appropriate makeup to parties. Men paid to be dazzled as well as entertained, plain Jane just wouldn’t make any money
Well, if Hollywood wants to fantasize and modernize looks with queens and kings, I guess there’s no limit to taking liberties with 1920s geisha.
Still, I have to say this scene is aesthetically pleasing….
@@inkheart151 this was the 1930s and 40s, and they certainly took liberties when geisha are all about appearing traditional. the movie makes them very westernized.
@@Oshidorinohina Oh. I thought this was before the FIRST world war. Thanks for the correction.
God her beauty is freakin ugh….. i wish i could go back in time to see her
This comment is really sweet
Mineko Iwasaki is the real geisha this story is somewhat based off of, there are photos of her online.
This is one of those instances where the book is a lot better than the movie. I understand it’s two different mediums and I usually think of books and movies as two separate and distinct things bc most adaptations are loosely based on their source material and make big changes or leave a lot out, but I didn’t feel like this movie brought the source material alive at all. I saw it once and read the book at least six times. I couldn’t put the book down. I was working long shifts the first time I read this book and I remember reading it on every break I got and sometimes reading it when I wasn’t busy. I didn’t want to put it down at all. I found the movie to be boring and I was disappointed bc I liked the book so much. If I remember right there weren’t a whole lot of changes, it just didn’t come alive. The way it was done made it seem boring to me. The characters weren’t at all like I imagined them to be and it just didn’t hit like the book did.
The book is just as bad as the film since both do not properly represent geisha.
It's a known fact that the author changed much of the subjects original accounts to make them more sad and melodramatic he even admitted to "filling in the gaps" on parts that she didn't disclose in her life and entirely making up the mizuage part.
This story is based on one of the most illustrious geisha districts that did not engage in this practice.
She has come forth to say that this story poorly reflects her accounts and time as a geisha and in her words it was "an injustice" to her life.
There have been many people who have written the author, asking whatever happened to Sayuri. This is fiction, people... she never existed.
One of my top ten favorite movies of all time.
Have they read the novel?
She did exist.
@@kayleighbrown965 no, she didn't... the geisha that sayuri is based off of did... the woman that arthur golden got his info from. but sayuri herself is a fictional character.
Maybe they wondered if the author had written more about the character.
Sayuri is based off of two distinct geisha: Mineko Iwasaki and Sayo Masuda.
Mineko was the most popular geisha from Kyoto during the 1960s and 70s. She even entertained Audrey Hepburn, Prince Charles and Twiggy. She lived the life of a celebrity essentially, and had a hot and cold affair with a Japanese movie star who pursued her for a decade before they got together - after they ended the relationship they remained good friends until his death. She was not forced to sell her virginity and in her words her career as a geisha was largely positive.
Sayo Masuda was a tragic geisha during the 40s and 50s. She was sold into a poor geisha house in Nagoya where she was abused and beaten, and sold under the false pretenses of being a virgin at least 3 times to different men. She witnessed the death of another geisha who allowed herself to die due to toxic shock poisoning from an untreated STD. She survived alcoholism after her best friend and former geisha sister died suddenly. She nearly got married to a well off man, who treated her with nothing but respect and kindness but he could not publicly announce his engagement to her due to it possibly ruining his reputation as mayor elect due to her being an onsen geisha - onsen geisha often acted as yujo or licensed prostitutes.
idc what anyone says... this is one of the most beautiful movies of all time
Not enough Academy Awards were given to this MASTERPIECE!!!🔝🔝🔝❤️
I can watch this movie over and over, it's such a good movie. The book was amazing too
A japanese grilfriend of mine said to me that I was a little afraid of going to watch this movie at the moment it was released because of the American distorted vision of the japanese world. She said it was because she had earlier watched The Last Samurai (with Tom Cruise) and she didn't liked it at all because of that... I can relate as a Spaniard when I watched Mission:Impossible 2 (also with Tom Cruise) and Knight & Day (yeah, Tom Cruise again) when they showed a surrealistic mixture of Seville, Valencia and Pamplona's very different traditions and festivities... I remember the laughter in the audience in front of that all-American utter ignorance.
A “real” Geisha world is almost really forbidden to talk about for them & forgotten, now a days it’s a “tourist attraction”, but it’s not what a simple Geisha would talk about. This movie is based on the novel. Stop taking things so serious.
I absolutely loved this film.
This was a great book! I didn't know they had turned the book into a movie
Book was fantastic..
2:25 Oh, little and sweet Chiyo, you made it. You reach your commitment to became the most beautiful Geisha.
I recently visited Gion in Kyoto, Japan and saw some working maiko and I can tell you, the makeup, hair, 5 inch shoes, gorgeous kimono-- as she walked past every single person including myself stopped and stared
Who else loves the hidden culture of a hidden world. The book is fabulous. I couldn't put it down 📖. 👀👄
❤❤❤❤ Love this movie
I love Zhang Ziyi 🥰🥰
That was wax they were dipping the comb into. She’s supposed to sleep with her head up to keep the hair. They stopped doing that because it caused their hair to fall out. Now they use wigs
Maiko use their own hair, Gaiko use wigs.
これは海外の目線で捉えられた、ただのメロドラマです。
It’s a shame they cast non Japanese actors first this film
Years later, I cannot get over how inaccurate the hairstyles are and how sloppy their kimono look. The only real Japanese actors and actresses are all supporting and the mains are all Chinese. Pumpkin, the only Japanese actress to play a maiko/geisha in this movie, had the only near authentic appearance of a real geisha. Was this a deliberate choice of the director? The Chinese actresses’ hairstyles were so glaringly inaccurate, anyone who’s actually seen a geisha would know right away.
The problem is that they couldn't find Japanese actresses for the film because they didn't speak English and didn't want to learn it. This was the situation with the film Kill Bill, when Japanese actresses refused the role of Gogo due to the fact that they did not know English, where only after Tarantino himself assured that the role would not require knowledge of English, they finally found an actress.
People complaining about how they have the same Chinese actresses in many movies during this period and should have allowed other actors in these role don’t understand how many films are made. These actors paved the way to allow for Asian films to be shown and made due to their success and talent because these films were created with them in mind as the talent. If they can’t guarantee a film will be profitable then it wouldn’t be made. There’s more people who work on a film than just actors and actresses. Additionally, the film is based on a book written by a Caucasian guy so I am not sure what authenticity you are looking for. The role of an actor and a story teller is to play a part and to write a story.
Geisha must also learn how to play musical instruments and dance. They must learn to pour tea and talk to men in private dining areas. This takes approx x2 years to learn.
Gosh, this movie is so inaccurate.. So many mistakes and it portrayed geisha totally wrong.
For Mr, this is the best film, I see it many and many times...
Then go ahead and remake it accurately then.
Years later and no one has a problem with Chinese actresses playing Japanese characters. This show how tone deaf Hollywood is
Thank you! That was the first thing I noticed looking at this video. Like, oh! They look 'Asian'; they'll do.
In the late 90's when this movie was made, the world wasn't so fucking uptight with a stick up their ass about everything like they are today. You could still make and enjoy satirical movies like those from Mel Brooks. I mean a movie like Blazing Saddles had Richard Pryor as one of the principal writers of the film. We used to be able to laugh as a society and enjoy ourselves. Now we have people charging the stage and assaulting comedians because they can't laugh.
So tell me in all 100% honesty. Does it really actually matter that a Chinese actress plays the roll of a Japanese woman from 100 years ago? Be honest! No it doesn't matter and you know it. Why because at the end of the day, IT'S A MOVIE!!!! It's not a documentary by David Attenborough on the life and times of a Geisha. It's a fictional story, like the Batman movies. So no it doesn't matter, they could have used anybody they wanted. It's their movie. If you don't like it, nobody is making you watch it. Get over yourself.
@@garygsp3 this movie is from 2005 🙄
Dont like it dont watch it xd I personally think the acting is much more important. Otherwise people will start to think that race is more important than skill.
There is also the fact this movie was banned in Japan for its historical inaccuracies as well as the author of the book being hated as well for all the lies he printed in the book as well. There were very few if any Japanese that auditioned for this movie.
That " look" they say- when women glimpses a man then drops her eyes- is said to be the look to stop man in his track in general. And you don't have to be geisha to do it. The look speaks of invitation, yet timidness and innocence, mystery and intrigue. It is but a second but it hides so many secrets, secrets that man wants to find out. It is an art of seduction, the first step to invite man to courting., to interest him and to catch his eye.
As Japanese, it hurts my patriotism lol I feel almost ashamed to watch this Japanese cultural movie with Chinese actresses. Don't get me wrong I'm not against them. They are absolutely beautiful!
She's so stunning!
In 1999, I took my Japanese girlfriend to Kyoto, where she dressed as a Maiko.
We walked around old Kyoto for a few hours, where we were stopped by a magazine photographer, who took photos of us together. We were sent the travel magazine containing our pictures....
On the 3rd of August, we celebrate 22years of marriage...
She is and will always be my “Maiko-san”....💕💕
These beauties. True beauties. No make up needed and they are gansta ❤
They are wearing heavy makeup
As a Maiko, shouldn't she have more kanzashi in her hair? Especially for her debut? I've never seen a Maiko with only one. Also her hair is WAY too flat to her head for a Maiko or Geisha. It's also kind of annoying that the film always uses the term Geisha even when she's clearly a Maiko.
@Remi4Eva Yeah, a Maiko is an apprentice Geisha that is going to the parties and making contacts while still taking the lessons and learning the craft. Their kimonos and jewelry are on loan from their teachers as they haven't earned enough to buy their own, yet. Considering she's only just gotten the hair style (inaccurate as it was) and this was her first time going out in public on a job, she SHOULD be a Maiko. 🤷🏻♀
Brilliant movie brilliant acting
I wanted to watch and read this until I learned I learned that this is a product of the author's exploitation of the geishas he interviewed.
Yep. He sensationalized and profited off of several former geisha to sell a false story.
Japanese people find it extremely distasteful when Chinese people play the role of Japanese people to represent what Westerners consider to be Japanese culture.
This film is just such a case.
The music is pretty cool. For a long time, I had no idea that John Williams scored this film.
While the book was a hot mess of lies the movie was beautiful to look at.
What did it lie about?
@@Mr.EmeraldTheGreen it gets some things wrong about Japanese culture
@@Mr.EmeraldTheGreen It's VERY historically inaccurate.
@@no.1fan156
I LOVE Japanese culture and their customs. And as finicky and fussy as I am about food, I love Japanese food. I really enjoyed the film, I found it to be really super interesting. There is a channel here on TH-cam that talks about everything Japan. Like for example, what the Japanese think about tourism in their country,,,,what the Japanese think about other customs from other places,,,,, what the Japanese do when your speaking Japanese and you mess up your words,,,,what Japanese think about blonde people,,,,,etc. but absolutely EVERYTHING is always negative,,,, Japanese people hate this they hate that, the weather is awful, Japanese films are awful, Japanese people hate Americans,,,,they hate me they hate you,,, so I just unsubscribed, as it was just way too negative for me. But I would love a channel like that that would talk all about Japanese culture etc, and NOT be so negative about absolutely EVERYTHING.
You are GEISHA! 😆 That is what I remember from this movie.
The old lady striking the flint and saying “For Luck”, made me think of the grandma from the animated Disney movie from Mulan who gave Mulan a cricket for luck.
Asian and Eastern culture gas always impressed me eventi if i'm a western but i appriciated and all those things that they sais and do and this movie is the best example to discribed
Great film. Not on my list but still a gem 💎 Always Queens. 🙏🏾
One of my favorite films on Japanese culture
My favourite book and my fav film.
God....such beautiful women * speechless*
They are Chinese not japanese
A woman older than her has long hair hanging down her shoulders. Such a hairstyle is impossible for a woman in a kimono.
Are these two the same women who in another movie had The Best fight scene everrr?
Do you mean 🐅🐉? I think they are... Thank you for reminding me of that 💎!
@@Lulph Yes.
I love the book!😍
And the movie☺
Damn I didn't know Geishas wore contact lenses back in Edo
In the movie, that's the character's natural eye color.
....??? this was set in the 1920s to 1940s, not in the Edo period lmfao
@@BriarMaeriSibyle oh shit u'r right, I forgot they invented contacts already in the 1920s lmfao
Edo was 1602 - 1867. This would have been the Taisho and Showa era. Even though the geisha appear largely westernized in this film.
The soundtrack slapping tho
I'm kinda upset they didn't hire the right race for this. I grew up in Japan and can tell the difference between Asians. She ain't Japanese. (Not talking about the geisha)
This movie is amazing 😍
This came in my recommendation. I always knew this film existed but never watch. it didnt seem to attract me that much. but love reading everyones comments here. i know i can google but id love if any of u who loves this film so much tell me synopsis. As i love reading it. Tq in advance.
目付きが違うのよ。これじゃない感。アメさんにはわからんやろな。
We are looking for constant transformations
athe music is so iconic as the movie
Say it isn’t so it’s a beautiful movie from fox pictures.
I love that movie!
I’ve watched it many time!!
この映画は本当にがっかりした、着物の着付けも作法も全くなってなく美しくない。間違いだらけの芸者を描いてる
Such a wonderful touching movie
i do prefer the part in the book where Chio began training young and worked with Mameha for years. But I understand why they wanted to accelrate things here
I loved this movie it was so sad of what she went threw but at the end she was with him!💞💞
Casting Chinese actresses for Japanese roles was a mistake.
they had no choice if they wanted to make the movie. japanese women wouldn't even touch the geisha character roles.
"Eet haaaugd!".... "No Sayuri! "You must try hawdA!!!"
the nicest part is before this clip starts
Those contact lenses make her look cross-eyed and tacky. It looks so ridiculously bad.
この女優はとても美しいです。
美しいですが、日本人の顔立ちではありません。
街並みも、日本らしく感じません。
どうしても中国の華やかさが混ざってしまいますね。
ゴーストオブツシマの「日本っぽさ」には、日本人も驚いています。
やはり、日本のスタッフの活躍が重要です。
私自身はヨーロッパ人ですが、多くの日本人は外見が中国人に非常に似ています。 私にとって日本人のルックスは松たか子や伊藤英明に似ています。
チｪンｯイーさんの芸者さんとっても素晴らしく古風なお姿美しい‼️ミｯシェルヨーさんさんとっても素晴らしいグリーンデｨスティニーで２人が剣術で戦っていたイメージとはまた違った素晴らしい魅力あふれる演技ですね‼️最高に素敵で素晴らしいシーンがありますねぇ‼️チｪンｯイさんはどのような演技でももの凄く映像を見ている人々を魅了する素晴らしい演技カ持ていますねぇ‼️ラバーズなどのアクシｮンシーンや中国拳法のシーンをいとも簡単にこなしてしまう凄い運動能力をもっておられるラバーズの打楽器を衣で叩くシーンなど圧巻ですね‼️そのお方がサユリさんという芸者さんの役になると凄い女性の色香を発揮するところがまた凄く素晴らしいチｪンﾂィーさんの魅力あふれる演技ですね魅了されてしまいますね‼️最高ですね‼️
It would be so good if another film could be made that showed the real life of a geisha.
I love the book & the movie a lot. This movie is so beautiful, but I agree that so many things are inaccurate in this movie.
Hairdo/hairstyle, make up, even the geisha culture.
The author, Golden, caused misconception & misunderstanding about Geisha. He also ruined Mineko Iwasaki’s name & her relationship with the geisha’s world.
Also, these actresses were not Japanese
Is it even genetically possible for an East Asian to have blue eyes?
Actually yes. Some who live in thr Mongolian and East Siberian regions have blue eyes and blonde hair despite having prominent "East Asian" facial features like monolid eyes and short nose.
@@Whats_in_a_name_1 Finns don’t count! They only have a tiny amount of East Asian admixture. They’re overwhelmingly European genetically.
My husband is Japanese, he has blue eyes.
@@Whats_in_a_name_1 We should do some research, but so far all we know is that he is a pure product from the south Kyoto and Nagasaki. His mother is a former Geisha born in Pontocho, with a family originally from Nagasaki, and his father is descending from the Taira clan in the Ise province.
@@Whats_in_a_name_1 Thank you. You have a great day and a good life !
This was such a beautiful story, I read the book and watched the movie which I have seen a dozen times or more.
Ah, yes, Memoirs of Chinese Geisha, my favorite movie.
kek
One of my favourite books and a visually stunning movie
В книге автор изменила факты. Позже была выпущена другая книга от другого автора, где рассказчик рассказала реальную историю. Обязательно прочтите
Me too
Me too. Nabu will never forgive her.
visually stunning, but not accurate at all :S
I love the book too, but I always read it knowing that it was mostly pure fiction and not indicative of geisha life at all. I open it expecting that, and am not disappointed that way. I have other books by Liza Dalby and Mineko Iwasaki for when I want to read about how it REALLY was to be a geisha.
They invented the eyebrow shaping?
i don’t think so 😂
It's probably quite impossible to track which culture did that first
百均の造花みたいな簪、肩揚げのよれよれした着付け。。。安っぽい半襟、しまいには、着物の裾を引きづって玄関を通る、、、ホント、これがハリウッド映画なの？