The New Star Wars Trilogy (Plus Rogue One) - Nostalgia Critic
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- Disney's reboot of Star Wars was...um...interesting. With so many highs and lows, Nostalgia Critic gives his thoughts on what worked and what didn't with the newer films.
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0:00 The Force Awakens
18:42 Rogue One
39:04 The Last Jedi
1:03:35 The Rise of Skywalker
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Top 3 favorite/Top 3 worst Star Wars films?
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Huzzah🎉
Imo it would be probably be the Stars Wars II Attack of Clones, The Phantom Meance, and the OG's
A great upload this is🍻
Favorite:
1) Revenge Of The Sith
2) The Empire Strikes Back
3) Rogue One
Worst:
1) The Last Jedi
2) The Rise Of Skywalker
3) The Phantom Menace))
Top 3: Caravan of Courage, The battle for Endor, and The Christmas special.
Bottom 3: See top 3.
Rey`s final line could have been so much better if they had her say "just Rey", as if she stopped caring about bloodlines and is going to live for herself, now. Honestly, this movie could I think be summed up by what I said when the movie ended. "Well...that happened..."
Really wish Rey turned to the dark side and Kylo's redemption arc could have been joining the resistance to turn her back - or kill her. Felt like it was really building to something with the weird mirror scene and dark Rey.
They would have needed to have a plan for the trilogy to be able to lead to anything
That'll never happen under Disney, let alone Kennedy's regime
All we needed was her getting her own lightsaber at the beggining of episode 8 or 9 and make it that awesome double blade like we hoped for
It felt like it was building towards her embracing and using both sides to her advantage. That didn’t happen either.
@@WinkleAbiding Yeah. That's the HUGE problem I have with this trilogy, they had virtually no plan whatsoever or overall story with this trilogy and when you really think about it, it just gets worse and worse.
god we were so optimistic back with Force Awakens
I was ok with FA. R1 blew me away. TLJ is what killed me in the end. That's when I realized the people in charge had no idea what they were doing
I still love The Force Awakens. I may be one of the few but it still remains Disney Star Wars movie despite the sequel trilogy didn't work, but as solo movies I enjoyed all of them.
@@alessandrodamiani1867 And yet that's why they don't work. It's like each movie was retconing the previous one.
Don't know why admiral akbar warned ALL OF US
Fa was good the other 2 were bad
"I don't like Life Day. It's controversial, stupid, and Lucas doesn't want it everywhere"
- Anakin Skywalker (not really)
I think it’s the most stupidest idea ever put into Star Wars. The Holiday Special is one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen.
Palpatine: What is this… Life day non sense… Why are people afraid to say christmas!
I can't believe the tone of optimism at the end of the Last Jedi review... seeing it all back-to-back is one hell of a contrast.
Same... Not mentioning Rey's MAry Sue's character at all or how they treated Luke...
Not what he meant dude
That parody of the resurrected palpatine is... just a masterpiece.
Fun fact: Rogue One is the first live action Star Wars movie to not use scrolling text "crawl" at the opening of the movie. The animated film Star Wars: The Clone Wars (2008) also did not feature a crawl. Though, it does still have the standard "A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away...." opening text.
This was dumb. The reply was even worse.
@@LUCKO2022 you have a serious case of delusional.
It’s a side story, so they wanted to make it clear that was the case.
@@LUCKO2022 - You mean all 9 of them.
@@LUCKO2022 calling something a fact does not in fact make it a fact
“Wouldn’t you love to see how jar jar celebrates black history month?” That was funny as hell
Jar Jar was a sci fi minstrel show
honestly I would love to see that more
@@GSthe3rd
"REEEYYYYSA! REEYYYYSA!"
“I’d rather drive with jake loyd”
Really? Funny as hell? Lol ok. How about be original? Why do you feel the need to repeat what was just said in your attention seeking?
It's funny after all these years I can't believe you guys at "Nostalgia Critic" have not touched - The Land Before Time.
One of the biggest punch to your gut/ nostalgic movies of all time. The Land Before Time seriously makes Mufasa's death scene in Lion King look like an SNL skit.
And they did have some good sequels after it too unlike other movies which made crappy ones.
That movie got me laid
That's a really good question. I guess the original is seen as so good that it doesn't quite meet the original scope of the channel - making fun of bad movies. Then again, he's had episodes featuring bad sequels to great movies from the start, so ... yeah, I agree with you there.
What puzzles me the most is that he has never reviewed MacGyver. It was released during what the channel originally defined as the "cutoff period" of 1980-1997 or so, Doug has repeatedly talked about it off-hand so he knows what it's about, and the show *really* isn't as good as you might remember it to be. There even was a movie. It really was the sort of series someone else should remember so you wouldn't have to.
Yeah I’d be interested to see him review the sequels because I do think there’s some decent stuff there. The quadrilogy from Stone Of Cold Fire, Big Freeze, Journey to Big Water, and Great Longneck Migration is when the series had its best run outside the original.
Time of the Great Giving is also another favorite of mine.
THEY HAVEN'T WHAAAT THEY SHOULLDDD
Marzgurl reviewed all 14 back in the days of TGWTG. That may be a factor in why it never crossed onto NC's desk.
Chewie: "Do you want to play that weird Space Chess?"
R2-D2: "I'm tired of letting your ass win!"
This is canon now.
This comment is redundant and attention seeking.
So is your comment.
“Who the hell slept with him?”
- Malcolm/Mandalorian
@@danieldickson3215 D-Did you really just respond to a quote?
@@goodjob7745 D-Did you just pretend to stutter in TH-cam comments?
@@cdogthehedgehog6923 D-D-Do I care?
@@goodjob7745 D-D-Did I ask if you care?
@@cdogthehedgehog6923 At this point, you're either an adult living off the Stimulus and lazy AF or an edgy teenager. I'm done with you 🤣
Do a month reviewing all five of the Ice Age Movies.
yess
Yes
1-4 great, 5 garbage.
@@Phantron 4 was also garbage, don't kid yourself. 3 was bad, but not garbage like the last 2
@@4569packers nope, most of the characters in 4 are super entertaining
I would always happily watch these videos over the actual Sequel movies.
Ikr everyone says prequels are bad I think sequels are way worse
me too.
I agree
@@knoffke_07 They are kinda bad, especially phantom menace, but I can at least stand to watch the movies and have a fun time watching it. I cannot say that about the sequels
@@KayamaKoomori Phantom Menace has Qui-gon, Young Obi-wan, Palpatine, Darth Maul, battle droids, and The pod race. The sequels have nothing that holds a candle to that stuff.
I guess Solo was so forgettable that Critic thought it wasn’t worth doing a sketch video on?
EDIT: Just to clarify, I personally liked Solo, but in comparison to the other Disney Star Wars movies, it stuck with me the least (I still liked it, just not as much as the Disney trilogy and Rogue One). Plus, the movie was a bomb financially, so, it’s definitely under the rug in comparison to the others
>__>
@@danieldickson3215 I thought it was better than all of episodes 7-9, but not Rogue one.
Maybe thats what this omnibus is for; his next StarWars related NC episode.
Unless they are willing to deepfake Harrison Ford into the movie, it is unworthy of critiquing. Even then the movie will still suck, but at least suck with the real Han Solo.
@@kamehameharem I thought 7 was better than Solo.
When you realize Galen’s Sabotaging the Death Star meant nothing when someone installed turrets and towers
Edit: imperial minutemen, Vader himself, that random wall hidden in the trench for some fool to smash into too
I think those were largely there for against capital ships, to protect the hangars etc
@@sundhaug92 I’m talking about the trench sized ones
And yet it clearly DID mean something, because it worked.
@@Shadowkey392 only because a force user had outside help from a last second intervention (Han’s deus ex machina moment)
Small scale weaponry (also called point defense weapons) on a ship that size is pretty standard. Bigger weapons can't realign as quickly or accurately to track and shoot small, fast targets that can literally move like fleas on a dog.
“Don’t you have a million Storm Troopers?”
“Yeah, but I can ACTUALLY HIT SOMETHING!” I’m dead! 😂
9:48 - 9:51 I like how when he went "I'm all right, kid," he winked just like Indiana Jones did when he said that to Short Round in Temple of Doom. 😂😂😂😂😂
In hindsight, that subtle reference is pretty funny. Especially after Rise of Skywalker, where they essentially do Indiana Jones, IN SPAAAACE! Which I actually didn’t mind. I like those sorts of stories, even when I get confused when I see a truck explode just by tipping over. (Seriously, how is that possible?)
"They use Jolly Ranchers for badges" holy shit I'm cracked up 😂
whether u like/dislike, agree/disagree Channel awesome is still a very entertaining reviewer.
I still maintain that Rouge One is my favourite Star Wars film
Rouge leader standing by.
Do you like feeling like a pinball?
About the point about Star Wars potentially sliding into mediocrity at the end of the Rogue One review: After the divisivness of episode 8, the slapdash thing that was episode 9, and the relative return to form that was The Mandalorian. Star Wars definitely stuck to the script of "it's either awful or pretty good."
The thing that worked with Force Awakens is at the end it left a foundation to take the series in any direction... and then The Last Jedi wiped the slate clean again instead of building off of what was established, retroactively negating the most effective aspect of TFA. Which left TRoS having to desperately scrap together a climax out of 100% nostalgia with no narrative gas in the tank. Bottom line they needed to establish and stick to rough outline instead of winging it from film to film.
Rogue One and Mandalorian were the weak spots of recent years.
@@thegoodreylo4749 LOL, that's some grade A trolling.
@@Terminalsanity Those both gave us hauntingly bad CGI of beloved characters such as Luke, Leia and Tarkington. The characters from Rogue One are unmemorable and The Mandalorian has G*na C*rano in it.
@@thegoodreylo4749 I already congratulated your trolling you don't need to keep it up.
"Does the Jedi menorah have nine lightsabers?"
No, it does not. It only has seven.
Spaceballs reference was pure Perfection. 🍻
Where was the reference? Guess I missed it lol 😅
As someone who listens to NC in the background a lot, I love these videos in particular. It's so damn helpful to not have to worry about making sure the right video pops up next. 😅❤️
I could pedantically point out that you could just make a custom playlist, but that doesn't cut out the charity shoutouts or sponsorships of the originals, and honestly, for some short series like this, it's often not worth the hassle of making the playlist, searching out the videos on the channel, adding them then deleting the playlist later.
All of that to say, yea, agreed.
Old Luke: my father who cut off my hand, killed my mentor, tortured my sister and sold my best friend to a gangster isn’t beyond saving.
New Luke: my nephew is having a bad dream, I should kill him!
Also old Luke as soon as his sister is brought up : so you have chosen ... Death
@@Nebula2187 THANK YOUUUUU. Luke lost his damn mind and went full murder mode when vader brought up turning his sister to the dark side.
@@Nebula2187 Vader threatening to go after Leia is the same as Ben Solo literally sleeping in bed?
@@19kilo241 Luke had a vision of Ben threatening someone/thing he loved. Same level.
Vader threatened someone Luke loved = murder mode.
Vision of Ben legit murdering some folks and destroying what Luke loved = murder mode.
reasonable. don't tell me you wouldn't react the same way Luke did. Like everyone goes on about how "oh I'd just TALK it out" but how many of us have DONE something BEFORE thinking it through THEN hella regretting it?
@@TheRibottoStudios Dude, this is Luke Post OT. He already experienced the lesson of not acting too hastily on future visions and even if he goes for the saber, which is batshit, it's your responsibility to alert your allies of your rogue student. Also, get up and help like a few months after instead of fucking off to die alone while the galaxy burns.
You should do one for Solo: A Star Wars Story since you didn't do it between The Last Jedi's premier and The Rise of Skywalker's premier.
"What if Star Wars just becomes okay?"
Ah... hindsight...
Well it went from great to shit to ok, so thats an improvement.
@@Darkness1984 no it went from to great to ok to utter shit. No improvements
@@Darkness1984 It went from "fun" to "okay" to "dogshit".
I have officially disowned the sequel trilogy. To me, Star Wars is Episodes 1-6.
You know a trilogy is bad when people say the Prequels aren’t that bad 🤣
@@fireironthesecond2909 i always liked the prequels. They brought out so much content in comics in games, and eventually tv shows. The sequels can barely sell toys
That’s fair enough. I actually enjoyed the sequels.
For me it 1-6 and mando
If they really wanted to fix the sequel trilogy with 9, they should have subtitled it "From His Nap" and explained that the first two were some sort of bizarre Force nightmare Luke was having because he drank some spoiled Tatooine blue milk and shown all of the new characters to be his students in the new Jedi Temple, University and Weekend Barbecue Pit.
Also, that would make the sequel titles be "The Force Awakens" "The Last Jedi" "From His Nap" and that would have been funny.
Wow, I haven’t seen THAT JOKE BEFORE.
@@rmn070 *smile* Okay.
Frankly, I'm in favor of a full re-making. Keep the actors that they can. Make competent stories. Give us all a good sequel trilogy.
47:45 👌😂 "social commentary social commentary.... " and the guys reaction - hilarous
The Disney's Star Wars Trilogy is so bad that many genuinely prefer the star wars prequels over them.
I definitely do
Yeah the prequels were pretty lame except for the Revenge of the Sith in terms of dialogue and performances but at least it has established characters with actual arcs. There was a cohesive vision there albeit a flawed one. The sequel trilogy proved to be directionless and soulless there was nothing behind it beyond turn these films out make money.
How pathetic is it that someone only bothers appreciating the older movies because they've been giving something else to hate?
@Dylan Sharp Back in the 2000s, Star Wars fans acted like the prequels were the worst movies ever made, and that they "rUinED" Star Wars. Fast forward to today, and now they're acting like the prequels were actually these "underrated jems" the whole time. It's not like Lucasfilm released a "Director's Cut" of the prequels or anything. They're still the exact same movies that they were 20 years ago.
@@Terminalsanity the star-wars prequels do not have a single character in them.
no individual of them has any significant character trait that does not boil down to a profession or cooperation.
For those who think that The Last Jedi wrapped up everything too neatly too soon, read Colin Trevorrow’s leaked script for episode 9. It’s flawed but still better than TRoS
It's funny how the only good movie in this series is the one that's NOT part of the main series...
I guess being self-contained made it possible for the writers to create a script with a beginning, middle, and end, and then go back and fix things at the beginning if something didn't turn out right towards the end, and only start filming once it was written. The sequels had no overarching plan, and it shows. Episode 9 in particular was doomed from the onset. Episode 7 was too self-contained and didn't bother with a setup, and Episode 8 neglected what little setup there was, and left nothing to build upon. When you're building a house and the foundations are crooked, and the walls are even more crooked, the roof will also be crooked no matter what.
7: Make sense to why the sequel is so similar
8: still believing there's a chance for good
9: Done with everything.
53:46
"Uh... I don't know. That sounds very wrong."
"That feels so right..!"
That delivery was so amazing, so funny!
This reminds me how much I absolutely HATE The Last Jedi. Just thinking about it makes my stomach churn.
I've only seen it once and that was in theaters. I have ZERO desire to revisit it which is why it's gonna be hard to do those levels in Skywalker Saga and really the Disney Trilogy in general. I'll happily do TPM-ROTJ again though.
In the old canon, Rogue One was not just one ship but an entire squadron of fightercrafts. Just to let you know.
I noticed that myself. Even pointed out to my family that Luke or Wedge was Rogue Leader (dont honestly recall). And unless I'm mistaken, isn't it stated during the Hoth battle?
I’m feeling like a star,
You can’t stop my shine
I’m lovin’ Cloud City,
My head’s in the sky
I’m Solo, I’m Han Solo,
I’m Han Solo.
I’m Han Solo. Solo.
OH MY GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHD
So you have chosen death…
I don’t get it.
My dad actually considers Rogue One the best Star Wars movie ever. He loves the development of the environment of Star Wars, how it finally answered the plot hole of the exhaust port, and he loves all the action. He calls Andor the best show for the same reason.
I wander how many of us still remember Han shooting first. I actually remember being shocked Han Solo, shot the guy. I was... maybe 5 when I first saw Star Wars. Dad brought it home, a golden and black box containing 3 VHS tapes. We still have them and they still are in decent quality. We watched it together and I was in awe. And then... comes Han Solo's talk with Greedo. Han, who seemed like a really cool guy. The sort of good-hearted rouge who agreed to help our heroes... killed the guy in cold blood. My child mind was blown. I actually thought Han would turn out to be villain or he would sell our heroes for his own skin, but... he did not. He actually rushed to help Luke at the end. That moment... I knew I would love these new movies dad brought home.
It was more precious to me, since Dad did not live with me and mom. And that evening, we watched all 3 movies together. Even though I was so young... it burnt into my memory.
Thats crazy your dad put the original edits into the special edition packaging?!!?. Its clear that even at five you were not only extremely perceptive but righteous and introspective as well. Too bad your dead beat father played such an inane trick on you, cuz he made you sound ridiculous... talk about the 'long con' huh?
A different Star Wars than I remember but not different enough.Brilliant.
tldr is that they so desperately wanted to get away from the prequels while cashing on the OT nostalgia
Cinema Snob's portrayal of Snoke is like Jeff Goldblum played this character in the movie. Not a bad thing
Wtf are you talking about? The episode 3 space battle is amazing. If short.
Anyone else love the dancing Vader at the end of the Rogue One review? 😂
Extra sobbing dude said why does Doug even wear glasses anymore, that's not even canon, the hilarity.
It case anyone is confused (so many people saying "wow he made a really long episode") this is a compilation strating from Nostalgia Critics review of The force awakens from 2015 on to his review of the last film of the trilogy with the only good side movie within......
Here's a trick...clothing and age. Im not dissing it in anyway. I haven't seen them yet so it's in a great package. Instead of searching and switching.
Rouge one was the only good movie Disney has done so far from star wars
Solo and The Force Awakens where mediocre at least
What about The Mandalorian??? That was a great show!!!
It's mediocre at best and it was completely pointless. The opening crawl in A New Hope literally accomplished the same thing as Rogue One did.
@@killer92173 I said it was the only good "movie" , I agree with you mandolorian is great
@@okagron it was pointless to the continuity but it was a good movie. Not great but good
The Clipless trilogy!!!
It's kinda sad to see these reviews in order, watching the anticipation and excitement as the first couple movies started to develop things and then the Rise of Skywalker just crashed and burned so badly. The other movies were not perfect by any means but they weren't terrible. They weren't a lazy paint by numbers non interesting film that just tried to please everyone while ultimately failing it's own characters. And watching the reviews just shows that, and reliving the hype in 2015 just to be so let down by 2019 leaves a bitter taste.
Star Wars seems to be on a better path now and hopefully it stays that way. Also, the reviews are great! Lol
Definitely enjoyed watching these again
The Last Jedi is what gave us RoS. Seriously That film was a narrative void: Snoke, Phasma, even Luke all thoughtlessly snuffed out to little narrative impact. Kylo and Hux reduced to bumbling jokes, Rey was rendered even more of a blank slate, Fin and Poe were left spinning in their wheels while the Resistance was literally going to have to rebuild from scratch. There almost no narrative forward momentum going into RoS. Contrast that with end of TESB where you had the setup Han Solo's rescue and and a final confrontation with Luke and Vader with a whole new context to consider.
I mean I don't envy JJ having to salvage that shipwreck what could he do? Too late to make Kylo and Hux into credible villains, too late to make satisfying character arcs for Rey, Fin and Poe. All he could do is going back into the nostalgia well again but the good will that could bring in was spent in TFA. There was just so little to work with.
@@Terminalsanity Not necessarily. I think the blame goes more to Disney/Lucasfim's lack of confidence on Trevarrow's treatment for episode IX, a lot of ideas and concepts from his vision really fed off the Last Jedi. There weren't any real retcons, and even sounded like they were giving better ideas for concluding Rey's arc. They felt the backlash was too great from TLJ, that it really felt like they needed JJ for "damage control". It's a classic case of trying to please everybody, but ended up pleasing nobody. They should've just maintained the confidence to let Trevarrow take the helm - it certainly would've helped to the Sequels to truly feel like their own thing. Hell, we would've even got a major prequel/clone wars reference.
@@Bleh391 LOL the woefully incomplete Trevarrow script was pretty trash, lovecraftican Sith monsters, Hux and Kylo suddenly credible villains that work together? Rey ,Fin and Poe had no planned out arcs? Seems pretty much like it was similarly doomed just without the Palpatine blunder.
Also you do known the primary reason they fired Trevarrow is because they didn't want Luke to be so integral to the story, that was the deal the breaker.
Rogue one is good and that's all I need to know.
Honestly, I think the cast here would have done a better job in the actual movies than the actors that were actually used...
No, I think the acting in the sequels is the best acting in Star Wars ever.
I'd totally watch a series where beavis and buttthead were royal guards or storm troopers or something lol
They actually already did. They have different names, but they’re (indirectly) responsible for just about everything in the OT, and it’s even funnier than you think.
There’s a comic series called TAG & BINK that did this. These two lovable idiots indirectly cause most of the Original Trilogy, and it’s even funnier than you’re imagining. The situations are actually explained well, so even though it’s obviously non-canon, it makes more sense than you would think, which makes it even funnier. Honestly it’s so good I would put in the TOP 10 OF STAT WARS ANYTHING.
I like The Force Awakens and Rogue One, except The Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker.
I like Rogue one expect the rest.
I like everything except rise
the force awakens was a mediocre mess with ham-handed and awkward fan homages and unoriginal story that pretty much undermined the OT.
@@medalgear654
Honestly, The Force Awakens is more watchable than the Prequels. Sure it took much from the Original Star Wars, but at least it didn’t have bad dialogue and political stuff.
@@BlazerK1914 I disagree, I think the force awakens is more forgettable and less watchable than the prequels. I would be lying if I say the prequels were great films but in spite of the bad dialogue(u should hear Riverdale's dialogue), outdated cgi , clunky writing and boring political stuff(actually the best part imo since it involves Palpatine's rise to power) which btw is still better than the intersectionality politics Disney tried to shove in the sequels especially the last jedi, it was still at least very original, showed an interesting world of Star Wars, no forced down awkward fan services, and deep down tell a fundamentally good story with the fall of the jedi, the rise of the Sith and Anakin's rise to power and fall to the dark side being an actually a good piece of character work. It also ends in a bloodbath in episode 3 where a lot of characters die, the heroes lose and the villain wins and is left with a bittersweet moment that one day a new hope with arise from the ashes of the fallen.
The force awakens, like the rest of the sequels, was doomed from the start especially with the opening credits showing a terrible world building that basically sets the world back to ANH despite being a sequel.
If this film were made by another studio it would automatically be reprimanded for plagiarism but I guess disney can get away with it.
Honestly I remember really liking the force awakens but after watching the newest one it makes it hard too rewatch the new trilogy
Regarding Leia flying to safety, her brother is the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy. We also know Jedi ability is partly hereditary. Are we really supposed to believe the daughter of Vader and sister to Luke, two of the most powerful Force users the galaxy has ever seen, 1) has no ability to use the Force herself and 2) never bothered to learn anything about the Force in the last 34 years?
The point is that it wouldn't have saved her from being blown out into the vacuum of space. Her lungs are collapsed, and the water in her body is vaporized. And unless TLJ was done filming and editing before they knew Carrie was gone, they should have let Leia die there.
@@hysuka2 Scientific estimates show human can last 15-90 seconds in space unprotected. And those are people without Force abilities. Also Star Wars isn't exactly known for its scientific accuracy, just look at the whole ship chasing physics argument in this same movie for further evidence of that. My point is, given this universe there is no reason Leia could not have learned to use the Force and thereby used it to move herself and survive.
It was corny/weird.. on top of what the other guy said & the logic he implemented. Knock it off
It slightly triggers me that he refers to them as “Jar Jars” instead of Gungans
To be fair considering how the Tie Fighters are effectively the Star Wars equivalent of kamikaze planes it makes sense why they are so drunk 🤷♂️
it's all the better when you realize he turned off his life support so they wouldn't see the lights to make it even more menacing when the first light they see in that darkness, is his lightsabre igniting. he was actively dying and still went through them like they weren't there
the prequels were always at least decent movies, but when compared to the utter DRECK that are the disney wars movies, the prequels are masterpieces of cinema, and should be lauded as such.
The sequels made me realize that the prequels did one thing very right: Iconography. Have a look at any character, ship, or location from the prequels, and you can immediately tell "That's from the Star Wars prequels". In the sequel, everything looks and feels too much like the original trilogy, maybe with an extra stripe of red paint. There are Stormtroopers flying TIE fighters against "rebel" X-wings, there are AT-AT-like walkers, Star Destroyers, Imperial guards, Luke, Leia, Han ... but nothing that really looks original or new. Even the new characters had to share the screen with characters we already knew, giving less time to set up anybody. It's like the sequels leaned way too hard on the visual identity consumers were already familiar with, neglecting to make something unique for their own.
Oh, and at least the prequels had some sort of overarching story that was thought out before they started filming.
@@Codraroll yes, and yes, 100% agree
You guys sound like victims of abuse arguing which of their beatings was more tolerable.
The sequel trilogy was what introduced me to Star Wars and Force Awakens holds a special place in my heart bringing to the magical world full of lightsabers, starship battles, and droids from the galaxy that was far far away
Kudos to you for not getting driven away by the prequel babies
Astral projection? Fine, it's very spiritual.
It killing you? Funnily enough, there has been far less 'death by using the force' then you'd think.
You'd also think the effort would drive you unconscious first, before it kills you- as 'getting knocked out by over-extending the force' has been used before.
But it does open up a logic hole-
Why didn't the emperor just do that instead? He's older then luke, and stronger overall it seems, the guy could kill fleets with space lightning.
Though it is true Palpy could just have.
Not used it because it probably makes you real weak afterwords. When killing entire fleets with force lightning doesn't kill you, why would making yourself appear somewhere else do it?
Yes, that is the problem with constantly throwing new Force Powers into the mix and just accepting that to be the norm, it opens up previously existing stuff to an infinite amount of "what if" questions, so you got to be extremely careful or you do dumb things like making your main character bring somebody back from the dead which was the entire reason for Anaking Skywalker to turn into Darth Vader and Rey can just nilly willy do that instinctively.
Astral projection? sure why not... but over hundreds of lightyears? ...is the force faster than light now? does it connect things through hyperspace? ...Luke didn't even know where Rey flew off to... how did Luke end up on the right planet to begin with? Did he look for Leia through hyperspace force stuff? ...this is getting awfully stretchy the more i think about it.
It seemed less that he died from the strain as that he was subsumed or let himsellf be subsumed by the force. Maybe overusing the Force makes Jedis so zen that they sink into Nirvana or something. It would work as power limiter, for story telling perspective. Sith on the other hand having all sort weird powers which also turn them into disfigured abomination which are only keept alive by their refusal to die and in constant agony does also work in the same way. As for adding new Force powers, the good guys can do telekenesis and the bad guys can also throw lightning gets old after 30 years or so.
@@markusbarten455 Which is fair but then how did Yoda exist for so long?
And a power limiter? We've seen people take down star destroyers from orbit [sith/jedi boi from force unleashed, vidya]
We have had several dozen more times people doing pretty powerful things and, not get nom'd. It could be that. Luke just kind of died there- just a quick scene of the projection disappearing and him fading away i.e. Yoda.
I don't mind new powers, I just want them to line up with the old ones- Hell I was all for basilia's jedi battle meditation.
Because it worked well with the emperor having a constant influence on his empire much the same way. Or when Thrawn does it-
Hell [apologies for the second curse] I'm more disapointed in what they did to luke- the wealth of things he did after, the jedi academy, dueling against thrawn- It just seems that they killed Luke to get rid of him rather than anything else- and they did it poorly. I wouldn't be against him dying in the movies admittedly but.
You could have gotten a similar effect with a high tier hologram without needing to sacrifice luke sky walker- guy who regularly beat the shit out of worse odds in the comics, movies, games, books.
While it's true that he's old- several key people in the pantheon are already insanely old and it seems jedi and sith age more like a wine than everyone else.
Sorry for the wall of text, but in short-
New powers? Fine, powers killing you? Sounds like a dark side power at best, a sort of lich deal maybe.
It could just be that I enjoyed the books /etc because they had time to work it through than anything else however, but I can admit my bias in this.
@@nonya1366 You forget that Disney basically retconned almost everything after they bought the rights. Meaning that everyone involved in the sequels might've been told or downright ordered to literally ignore that and make up new shit (I am serious with that one). Instead of just stripe minnning, taking apart and putting back together like they did with the Marvel movies. I mean I heard about the original Thrawn or the Yuhza Vong but I haven't read those books so I'm less offended that they are gone. As for Luke, it is a shame that all we saw of his live was his biggest mistake and the broken wreck he was afterwards. Maybe they will give him his own CGI show, to have at least some adventures. I mean using series to fix the holes in the movies is kinda Star Wars thing now.
@@markusbarten455 I mean, heavily plagerize their own IP is on the table- ideas, scenarios, etc. Though that's where my bias lies.
Honestly? The only take away from this is to read the thrawn series. If nothing else. It's the one sitting close to the heart of the matter- though I admit I am a fan of him enough that I watched rebels for him.
It's worse seeing what Luke could be- Without spoilers, genuinely happy. Like. The actual good end.
Yeah shows always seem to fix the holes.
Rey healed Kylo before he died. Leia died by distracting Kylo and overdosing on the force, or by being connected to Kylo when Rey runed Anakin's lightsaber through Kylo's chest.
The way Rey defeated Palpatine was by using 2 lightsabers to redirect his lightning to him, and combiniantly Palpatine didn't stopped shoting his lightning 'cause he forgot.
Hey!, Gina's character appeared in a stupid scene, I think.
Luke is not the same Luke as in the trilogy. This is the person who only learned who Darth Vader was AFTER all the terrible things he had done and still wanted to save him because he is his father.
And now, this same person will train his cousin and kill him in cold blood in his sleep because he dreamed about him turning evil and he did NOTHING? And the only reason he returned was Yoda which makes you question. Why did Yoda wait over 20 years to pep talk Luke??
I love how they weren't able to use any real starwars music.
I loved Rougue One
Honestly the thing that pisses me off is that Disney had plenty of great EU content to work with and more than enough money to get rights to all of it if they needed to. They could have adapted some amazing stories to the big screen. Hell they COULD have written Dark Forces into a movie instead of making whatever the hell Rogue One was. I will never understand why they decided to retcon decades of solid lore in favor of the bland corporate secretions they ended up sneezing out.
1:14:58 - geez, I hadn't realised until that point that JJ Abrams had effectively turned into The Man in the Planet from 'Eraserhead' - initiating a series of events and then freaking out when it all starts going haywire... AND Snoke has a passing resemblance to the baby.
meanwhile me, preferred the prequals over anything the new trilogy did. 😂
Yeah, the prequels are at least funny
Do your thoughts on the Mandate series including the new Star Wars series Visions?
37:20 If only they knew about the Mandalorian season 2 final episode… and now I’m watching “that scene” for the 501st time. Like you haven’t.
There's a Lego holiday special done by Disney just FYI.
But I remember hearing a rumor once that Boyega claimed he was asked to reprise his role as Finn for chapters 10 - 13 but refused because of how he was treated while filming the movies. Supposedly the next set of trilogy was going to make him a Jedi and the force awakens was just setting him up to be. And that 7 through 9 was always focused on Rey.
But honestly; Finn being related to Mace Windu would be a great idea. Disney could reintroduce Windu in other live action format since Sam Jackson has been in constant talks to reprise his role. I'd actually enjoy a Mace Windu show or movie. And honestly; Diisney really needs to move past chapters 1 through 6. Star wars has so must lore that would give the franchise a breath of fresh air like using Revan. Show how the rule of 2 became important. I'd love to see a live action movie exploring why the G1 lightsaber was built in the 1st place. Thankfully star wars is about to explore the high republic era.
And would the father, daughter, and the son be concidered the Gods of the star wars universe? They are referenced in old Jedi temples. Although seeing a Lothal wolf in the Asohka show would be interesting.
7 was ok
8 as stand-alone look good, but as a series, it destroys all role beyond repair
9 I don't really care but it seems it at best he can do to try to fix a mass
I hope they will remake this
Hey critic since you finished CW and it's been a while since you did a top 11 list in a while, would love to see you do a list of best Clone Wars episodes/arcs
I forgot about the Gareth Edwards Indifference Warning... we need that as frequently as the "Alan!" raptor :D
I don't give a crap about what the rest of the fanbase says, I REALLY like the Star Wars sequels. They're a lot of fun, really good acting, not the WORST type of rehashing the original out there and when I saw The Rise of Skywalker in theaters, Palpatine gave me goosebumps since his first appearance and it easily became my favorite ending to a Star Wars movie because of how immersive that final fight felt to me. The Force Awakens is a really fun popcorn and outside of Revenge of the Sith and The Empire Strikes Back, the lore established in The Last Jedi is intriguing and interesting. I love all these movies to death and I don't CARE what other people say to make me sway away from it. This series came out when I was 12 and that was a perfect time to be a fan of the new Star Wars and I still love all the sequels to this day, especially The Rise of Skywalker when it made me push my analysis skills to the absolute limit of trying to find out why of all the Star Wars movies it moved me the hardest. The score and action is fun and I don't see it as a rehash of the original trilogy myself. I love all the characters and the stories and if you have a problem with my opinion, KISS MY ASS
"Road chip had the same plot"
"Really?"
"I don't know you'll never watch it to find out"
That you didn’t give one of the best moments in Rogue One, Donnie Chen owning a team of stormtroopers with a stick, some love… Channel Awesome, I am disappoint! 😂
I do love Ip Man
while the framing devices have always bugged me for these, rewatching the sequels, reevaluating them, and than watching these. I have to give points to doug for clearly paying attention and considering stuff. It sounds patronizing but it feels like most of the star wars fanbase didn't. It feels like most people especially the people who hate it (and I'll hold my hand up because I fell into some of these) either just stright up ignored stuff, misremembered stuff or took moments without the context. A prime example for me, is everyone (this is one I did as well) is yelling about rey being a mary sue. But upon watching the movies, she does have a personality, she does fail and she's honestly really fun. The problem is that in 8 she gets sidelined and in 9 its jumping around like someone who slammed back a gallon of coffee and ten pounds of sugar, so as a result she only gets a few scarce moments to show it. Hell I would argue much more that EU luke is much more of a gary stue with how he's the strongest character evah.
Another is luke "trying to kill kylo because of a bad dream" people forget that visions are a big thing is star wars and tend to be right. And luke got a vision that his nephew was going to become the next vader. Luke has aso shown bouts of the darkside so him having the moment he does is not out of character for him. But doug also gets something right that everyone else forgets. He didn't go through with it. It was a single moment, it was gone as quickly as it had arrived but the consequences were already done. Everyone forgets this and talks about the moment like luke really did try to kill ben, but he didn't.
There's also all the shit about 7 just being a new hope 2, and doug hits the nail on the head. Sometimes to tell a new story you have to tell an old one first, and star wars has always gone back to the well of a new hope. Than with 9, yeah, TLJ nuked every plotline and than poor JJ (even if I don't have any feelings for him as a director I feel bad for the hate he gets for stuff that really wasn't up to him) having to back track and try to fix a sinking ship that was already half way underwater . Let's be honest, with everything that happened TROSW was always going to be garbage.
I respect doug for being more open minded and genuinely realizing these points while most of the fanbase just screamed and bitched about everything. It's clear he was actually paying attention unlike a lot of people
This was more entertaining then the past 6 years of star wars
You guys put a lot work into this. Good job guys. I know Channel Awesome gets a lot of slack for missteps of the past but it's good you guys are keeping at it
shyte… cinemasnobs Harrison Ford impression isnt bad. wtf!?
1:06:00 perfect opportunity for Mando to ask if the new old Pilot (JJ) even knows if this is the way.
The general feeling I get is that there's so much crammed into the last movie because the Mouse only gave up money and green light to make one film. There's easily enough content, that if they slowed down and examined things more thoroughly, they could have stretched it into two or more movies.
This is kind of like when screenwriters put an entire novel into one 90 minute movie. Imagine if The Hobbit had been one film.
It was one film once. Animated, admittedly, but one film. It covered the main points and honestly, most of the stuff it skipped was unnecessary anyway, similar to Tom Bombadil in LOTR.
Edit: Typo.
57:56 For me, the 'force projection ' wasn't all that crazy. It's basically the same as any other astral projection ability, like a force ghost. And I'm certain it's been in Star Wars before through the Extended Universe (likely several times).
What bothers me is the 'drains his life force' thing, since using the force has never really been described as draining in that way. In fact, since it's about using the energy that flows through everything, there's no reason why it would drain his life in particular, since it should essentially be everywhere.
Basically, it's dumb how he 'dies'. At most, he should have passed out from concentrating too hard.
It was called Doppleganger in the EU and no it didn't kill the user. What hurts the most about that is that Luke never gets the chance to fix his mistakes. I was hoping he'd get picked up so he could continue Rey's training proper but he died...Not surrounded by his friends and family but on an island alone.
I actually was interested in The Force Awakens. It wasn't anything new, but it still seemed like an interesting start to a new age of Star Wars.
I personally didn't like The Last Jedi. However I could still respect the fans of it. I mean, the prequels were bad, but I loved them as a child. New fans were experiencing the thrill, the action, the wonders of Star Wars just like I did.
I didn't watch Rise of Skywalker. The Last Jedi broke my heart, and I didn't want the sequels to ruin Palpatine for me. After watching some reviews and clips, I think I made a good choice.
I don't hate the sequel fans, but I am disappointed by the creators of the sequels. They could've made something way better and some of their decisions divided the Star Wars fandom into two separate sides.
"What's your name?"
"Rey."
"Rey who?"
"Rey'd Shadow Legends!"
31:21 Storm Troopers can hit stuff, that scene in New Hope where they couldn’t hit the main characters in a hallway was because they were trying to let them get away because they put a tracker on their ship.
The trilogy would have beeing so much better if Jar Jar came out as the villain
I do hope this implies they're going to do a Solo review
Critic: will we ever get a Vader scene like Rouge One again
Me: Trila's death scene
Fun fact: This and last Jedi were the first Star Wars movies I ever saw since I wasn’t interested in stars aside from R2 as a kid but was convinced to see the last Jedi when it came out.
I’m surprised I’m now a fan after seeing mandolorian around a year after rise of skywalker.
Anything memorable about this trilogy?
Total shite.
@@liamlb92 Apart from Rogue One.
@@theprototype2518 I’d take the fanbase created stories then the new trilogy any day.
Throne room fight.
And maybe Hans death.
But idk definitely doesn't hold a candle to the PT and OT
@@cdogthehedgehog6923 the throne room fight is total crap. You can clearly see in frame that a guy throws a spear before kylo ren kills him
Tamara as Rey rather than Daisy Ridley would have made these films much, much better.
Wonder how hard it would be to create such a version...
" Darth Vader's going to die by your pussy ass fists, oh I'm so scared. Oh wait, I forgot I can choke a bitch"
😂😂 I await the day Malcolm ever officially gets into voice acting. Assuming he has in voice-acted already
The thing is, Star Wars has such a LONG timeline, that it can be ANYTHING, really. It can be a war movie, a heist movie, The Mandalorian started out as a Western. Let’s have… a Star Wars HORROR movie. And granted, I know genres are INSERTED into Star Wars movies, but they’ve never committed to actually just making a genre Star Wars movie. I guess it all comes back to PLANNING. The fact that Disney never had a concrete outline for this trilogy just baffles me. The “STAR WARS STORY” idea is genuinely good, so keep that. I do believe they won’t repeat their mistakes with this new Rey-centered trilogy, but it does mean that it’s time to FINALLY bring in the BEST Star Wars villains, and yes, even better than Vader and Palpatine: THE VONG. There’s just one problem: the Vong are the most interesting Star Wars villains, but they’re DEFINITELY the most R-rated, as well. They’re basically CENOBITES, and I don’t know how you portray them in anything less than an R-rated movie. Their technology is ENTIRELY biological. And they revere and enjoy pain. They look, act, and very much are TERRIFYING, and I’m not sure Disney is gutsy enough to do it. Plus, Rey is basically the ONLY Force user now, and they’re so powerful that, in the Legends books, even with all the OG characters (plus some allies we DIDN’T get) Leia’s kids, and an OVERPOWERED Luke, and it’s STILL BARELY enough to win. Maybe the Rebels crew from the AHSOKA show will take up the slack. They are bringing back Thrawn, and while Thrawn is AWESOME, Thrawn also ties heavily into the Vong’s introduction. Hell, there’s even a retcon that Palpatine took over the Galaxy just so he would have an enormous Imperial Army b/c he knew the Vong were coming, and, it DOES make a lot of sense. It doesn’t retroactively make him altruistic, but it does give a little more purpose to his actions. If you think about it, Palpatine does enjoy his power, but in the OT, he almost becomes a ghost to the Galaxy for years, and Palpatine DOES enjoy the fight. He wouldn’t be a Sith if he didn’t. And yet, he never gets to DO any of that after winning. So I do buy into the idea that he knew about them, no one believed him (people seem to forget anything that happened over 20 years ago in Star Wars, for some reason), and he did want revenge anyway.
I love Star Wars so much!😀
Man I love this channel so much this was probably the most hilarious review you've ever done
1:23 is that an e-5 blaster rifle? Is that guy secretly a battle droid?!?!
You know looking back, I kinda lowkey wished that the Huxley and Ben dynamic was more similar to how Chris and Jim did it in the review for jokes. Would've at least been funny, and entertaining to see at the very least.