It seems like the difference between these pedals is just the expression pedal. And physically that's pretty much it, true. But making the right decision now might save you a lot of hassle down the track.
I ordered the G1X4 but haven't received it just yet. I have the older G1XN already and appreciate it so much I had to order its big brother. Being able to assign different effects to the pedal was the deciding factor for me on both of them.
I got a g1x four today,I'm using it with a pair of skull candy crusher headphones and it sounds amazing,sounds just as good through a pair of average studio monitors,really impressed
I have a new g1x four pedal, I noticed that most of the clean patches sound well when using for live gigs, but whenever I switch to distortion patches, it begins to make some weird noises, please, what can I do to stop this phenomenon
Bought the G14... bottom line you don't need the expression pedal. If you ever do, buy an external one. The one that comes with this is cheaply made, but does the trick if you want some sort of wah or volume control with your feet.
I just bought G1x4. And i kinda regret buying one because of it's limitations. I missed the times i can use expression pedal (esp. Volume) without having it on chain, just by going to settings. But the tones i get with it is great, it sounds awesome! I think the mooer ge150 is a great option tho.
It was a great feature on the G1Xon to be able to assign a function to the expression pedal. I;ve been trying to find a way to use the pedal to dampen a tremolo in a chain but have had no luck.
Sorry but it wasn't clear: Do I need to add a volume pedal to the chain, or is the expression volume when not in use? And do you know where in the chain it is?
You don't need a volume pedal, but if you add one you'd probably put it before the G1FOUR. Many other Zoom pedals have an input to add a volume pedal, but not this one. You'd have to connect your volume pedal to the line-in.
I've been playing guitar for a month now, I havent taken any lessons. My setup: ibanez grx40 cherry apple red, orange crush 20. My question is; which one of the zooms on this video should I buy?
I wouldn't buy either of them, personally. I'd look at what's selling second hand, many of the older Zoom pedals sounds just as good but are easier to use, and they'll only cost you about $30
Gearfacts, what do you think about modding a G1 Four to use an external 5 button foot switch, to control the on / off of the 5 effects ( so there wouldn't be a need for scrolling ) ?
That's beyond my skill level to be honest! In my opinion though, rather than going to the expense/effort of doing all that I'd buy a second-hand Boss GT-6 or Line 6 Floor Pod which will sound better and probably last longer :) #gearfacts
This is much easier than it sounds. I made.some YT on how to determine some settings and subsequently met more people - can use Midi to control parameter, program change, tempo, master volume and just about most other things.
Check out my YT on experiment with G1X four th-cam.com/video/qf1ShHphDrc/w-d-xo.html I added links to other who are more advanced and am.collaborting with a group to explore the control parameters. My plan is to hook a massive touchscreen to a Raspberry Pi 4 and use it to control a ton of stuff. I will post more on my channel as I find it.
Yeah and it can make changing effects a bit of an uncertain thing. I didn't mean to say that the expression pedal made it 'less good', I just wanted to point out that it adds certain pitfalls to the operational flow.
Alot of people say the unit can feel a bit cheap being made out of plastic but how does the expression pedal feel? Is it sturdy enough or do you feel like you have to really be delicate with it?
Not great. I guess it's sturdy enough, but it's so small that it feels like it's not even engineered for an adult foot. If I owned one again I'd be inclined to screw a metal plate on top of it... :) #gearfacts
Amazing idea for a video! Just one question: why didn't you go through the effects listed in the G1X manual as being more versatile withe the use of the pedal - those effects with the written "P" (i.e. effects for pedals only)? I really wanted to know the details about pitch shifting (that table/tables at the end of the manual.) I don't want to buy a G1 to later discover that specific pitch shift parameters (besides throwing them up and down according to the parameters of the table on the manual) are in fact indispensable...
Thanks man. I guess all I can suggest from here is to google the manuals and check the effects parameters in there - just search the model name followed by PDF :) #gearfacts
Hi, I'm from Brazil and here the difference between the two models is bigger ... I'm still a beginner, should I expect for an price drop on G1xFour or the volume/expression pedal isn't that important for an inexperienced player? Should I search for an simpler pedalboard (I kinda liked the sound of this model)?
I think the expression pedal is worth getting. There are lots of cheap Zoom, Boss, Digitech, and other brands of pedals on the second-hand market. Start this way. Start cheap and then every step up will be exciting :)
I'll buy G1 four because the expression pedal is causing a lot of trouble during lives , I'd add a cry baby if I need to , I think they sound great especially with headphones great sound for practice, as you might not know that one of designers are the ex Manager of Malmsteen and he's also guitarist . I believe it's a great deal to have that amp and cabinets simulator they sounding good by just plugging in direct into the mixer and especially if you are good guitar player not a beginner , I use it in lives and its really sounding good , of course cannot replace the real amplifier and pedals but still...
I'm mostly interested in the pedal effects that can swell distortion and other effect parameters ... although my Boss GT-1 really does that kind of thing well (ie, set up a patch where the rocker pedal can swell distortion/gain and also decrease overall volume so it doesn't get too loud too ... it's a great thing to just organically swell distortion and other effects .... I think the Boss GT-1 or other Boss multi-effects is the most capable for fine tuning that kind of thing). Still the Zoom G1x four might be good in combination with that .... and I like the Zoom as lopper since it has one pedal to stop the loop .... many pedals have you tap the pedal twice to stop the loop and that is just soooo annoying in my opinion!
@@mountainstartemple6041 I just setup the G1Xfour for a non-technical friend.. spent 6-7 hours on it but sounding very good. That said, yes the Looper is very good! I own a Strymon Timeline, $450 pedal and it has a Looper. I found it very very hard to get a clean loop and I thought I was the problem.... noooo the pedal is the problem. This Zoom unit nailed a almost 30 sec loop first shot! After setting up my friends and saving the patches to a computer I will buy one of these for myself!
Hello! How are they? Can someone tell me what the effect settings of the LushAcoustic are? I accidentally changed it and I don't want to reset the Zoom G1X because it generates some effects and I don't want to lose them.
I love this patch. If I remember I will write it up for you. I am playing with remote control - see here th-cam.com/video/qf1ShHphDrc/w-d-xo.html I have added links to other who are more advanced - I hope to get a prototype working with touchscreen and Pi 4 over Xmas - you can see hints on the FX for Lush Acoustic but not the values in my video.
2023 and the decision is not easier. The difference in price is only 20€ and for that money you will not find a expression or volume pedal. I suppose I'll go with the G1 because I'm not the biggest fans of wah and to limit extra bulk. Any other interaction with the interface, I could probably have gone with the g1x because price is quite close.
@@gearfacts I just discovered they hadn't a lot more models on the G series 4 years ago and they discotinued most of them. I just wanted something similar to my old 505. I suppose G1four will be butt the entry range pretty much doubled prices since the late 90s. Sad they discontinued G1u
I find it a bit annoying that these new multi-effects pedals from Zoom have cabinet sims separate .... on my Zoom G1on, the cabinet sim is just a setting that is part of the amp simulation! So that there takes up one effects slot where it didn't before. Still I think I'm wanting to get the Zoom G1x Four for various improvements with knobs and buttons and layout and some new delays and such (although I'd miss the particle reverb). I wish one could just go online and delete and replace various effects and whatever to get just what you'd want ... I'd be ditching the "bomber" ~ most useless effect ever ~ for sure and adding something else!.
I have both (g1xand b1x in pedal form). Turns out they are pretty much the same - just different FX and it is possible to swap FX between them and some of the other Zoom pedals.
It was intentional that most facts were repeated twice. This is for various reasons which I won't go into, but I can assure you than when you have as much experience as I do, it's necessary and saves a LOT of correspondence in the long run!
No, I really have to deny that, I went into quite a lot of detail about the benefits of the pedal, and also warned that with the G1FOUR you can't connect external expression control. I made it clear that you're missing out on a LOT if you don't have the expression pedal. #gearfacts
@@gearfacts 1)in india, the two pedals sell for 75usd and 91usd... so not much of a difference there. 2) the pedal allows to assign any effect parameter from a given patch(not just volume or wah)... you can even control the gain of the distortion effect or the delay and reverb parameters in a patch where no wah or volume change is required... and thats useful and cannot be done by using an external pedal. 3)these are beginners pedals and putting them on a pedalboard having better effects isn't the goal of it... anyways i use a g1xon and felt that the expression pedal is extremely useful... however can you suggest that will upgrading to a g1xfour be worth the pain?i got pretty excited about the 5 button for 5 effects control and 4 knobs to control parameters.
Rajarshi Ghosh Dastidar No, it’s not worth upgrading, there are better/cheaper/older options. And it wasn’t bias, it’s just a level of detail I didn’t get into.
@ddur well its in individual patch settings... you can assign any one effect parameter to the pedal... I generally use it to change the gain because then I can play the distorted and relatively cleaner parts on the same patch and it sounds better because the tone matches... I own the g1xon i got for 5000inr on amazon... Its pretty decent
I ordered the G1X4 but haven't received it just yet. I have the older G1XN already and appreciate it so much I had to order its big brother. Being able to assign different effects to the pedal was the deciding factor for me on both of them.
I got a g1x four today,I'm using it with a pair of skull candy crusher headphones and it sounds amazing,sounds just as good through a pair of average studio monitors,really impressed
Yep, I just got another one (the one in the video was just purchased for review at the time) and I'm looking forward to giving it another go :)
You could try Samson Sr850 out Kz edx
Great distinctions in this video. Well done. Thanks.
Thanks MD, hope it was helpful /GF
Jeez, my hands just don't stop ...I'm like THING from the Addams family... :/
Great review!
Maybe I should've stuck with the G1FOUR, (without the X). :)
Cheers!
Very good thoughts on product position👍🏻 looking forward to sound comparison of this and other zoom multis
I have a new g1x four pedal, I noticed that most of the clean patches sound well when using for live gigs, but whenever I switch to distortion patches, it begins to make some weird noises, please, what can I do to stop this phenomenon
Thanks for the video!
You're welcome!
Bought the G14... bottom line you don't need the expression pedal. If you ever do, buy an external one. The one that comes with this is cheaply made, but does the trick if you want some sort of wah or volume control with your feet.
the default tone settings aren't good enough, but if you are good at doing manual settings and making your own tone, G1X4 it's pretty good.
True:) #Gearfacts
100% true
I've had full size floor effects with expression pedal and never used it. G1 Four is perfect for me.
Yeah I prefer them without the expression pedal too. Each to their own :)
I just bought G1x4. And i kinda regret buying one because of it's limitations. I missed the times i can use expression pedal (esp. Volume) without having it on chain, just by going to settings.
But the tones i get with it is great, it sounds awesome!
I think the mooer ge150 is a great option tho.
It was a great feature on the G1Xon to be able to assign a function to the expression pedal. I;ve been trying to find a way to use the pedal to dampen a tremolo in a chain but have had no luck.
i will buy one tonight (: probably without integrated pedal.. i hope it will work with my cerwin vegas floorspeakers
It'll work fine with those speakers :)
@@gearfacts Thank You for Your answer. I hope i will get everything whats inside in the same quality like on the mono guitar speaker ?
@@kominbatorego1716 possibly better - you’ll hear all the glorious stereo delay sounds!
I came from another video. Very informative.
Hello again, glad you liked it :)
I came from jacking off
Sorry but it wasn't clear: Do I need to add a volume pedal to the chain, or is the expression volume when not in use?
And do you know where in the chain it is?
You don't need a volume pedal, but if you add one you'd probably put it before the G1FOUR. Many other Zoom pedals have an input to add a volume pedal, but not this one. You'd have to connect your volume pedal to the line-in.
I've been playing guitar for a month now, I havent taken any lessons. My setup: ibanez grx40 cherry apple red, orange crush 20. My question is; which one of the zooms on this video should I buy?
I wouldn't buy either of them, personally. I'd look at what's selling second hand, many of the older Zoom pedals sounds just as good but are easier to use, and they'll only cost you about $30
Gearfacts, what do you think about modding a G1 Four to use an external 5 button foot switch, to control the on / off of the 5 effects ( so there wouldn't be a need for scrolling ) ?
That's beyond my skill level to be honest! In my opinion though, rather than going to the expense/effort of doing all that I'd buy a second-hand Boss GT-6 or Line 6 Floor Pod which will sound better and probably last longer :) #gearfacts
@@gearfacts Cool, thanks for the feedback. Is GT-6 better than GT-8 or GT-10?
This is much easier than it sounds. I made.some YT on how to determine some settings and subsequently met more people - can use Midi to control parameter, program change, tempo, master volume and just about most other things.
Check out my YT on experiment with G1X four th-cam.com/video/qf1ShHphDrc/w-d-xo.html
I added links to other who are more advanced and am.collaborting with a group to explore the control parameters. My plan is to hook a massive touchscreen to a Raspberry Pi 4 and use it to control a ton of stuff. I will post more on my channel as I find it.
Very wise info dude!
Hope it was helpful!
The expression pedal doesn't limit the unit in any way, the expression pedal is an extra.
It limits the amount of effects that you can use
Yeah and it can make changing effects a bit of an uncertain thing. I didn't mean to say that the expression pedal made it 'less good', I just wanted to point out that it adds certain pitfalls to the operational flow.
Alot of people say the unit can feel a bit cheap being made out of plastic but how does the expression pedal feel? Is it sturdy enough or do you feel like you have to really be delicate with it?
Not great. I guess it's sturdy enough, but it's so small that it feels like it's not even engineered for an adult foot. If I owned one again I'd be inclined to screw a metal plate on top of it... :) #gearfacts
Good video! A question: may I use the pedal in the G1X Four to control effects parameters without erasing one effect from the chain?
Nope, the wah pedal will occupy one space in the chain so you have to use your effects efficiently :) #Gearfacts
yes,if you dont use the wah effect... or the wah gets it... or you can keep your wah at its default and set the pedal to something else...
With g1x4, will i got only 4 slots?
I have both 😊
Surprising there's not an exp. Input.
For beginner THe expression on G1X Four neccessary or not? (On the way to buy).
Here Diff cost 20.USD
I think it's worth the extra 20, yes :) GF
Amazing idea for a video! Just one question: why didn't you go through the effects listed in the G1X manual as being more versatile withe the use of the pedal - those effects with the written "P" (i.e. effects for pedals only)? I really wanted to know the details about pitch shifting (that table/tables at the end of the manual.) I don't want to buy a G1 to later discover that specific pitch shift parameters (besides throwing them up and down according to the parameters of the table on the manual) are in fact indispensable...
Thanks man. I guess all I can suggest from here is to google the manuals and check the effects parameters in there - just search the model name followed by PDF :) #gearfacts
Effects are same in both ? Is there any extra effects in g 1x four
Just a few, associated with the wah pedal
Nice
Hi, I'm from Brazil and here the difference between the two models is bigger ... I'm still a beginner, should I expect for an price drop on G1xFour or the volume/expression pedal isn't that important for an inexperienced player? Should I search for an simpler pedalboard (I kinda liked the sound of this model)?
I think the expression pedal is worth getting. There are lots of cheap Zoom, Boss, Digitech, and other brands of pedals on the second-hand market. Start this way. Start cheap and then every step up will be exciting :)
@@gearfacts Thank you, I appreciate the effort ... Nice channel by the way
@@leomarco1287 Thanks so much for watching!
I'll buy G1 four because the expression pedal is causing a lot of trouble during lives , I'd add a cry baby if I need to , I think they sound great especially with headphones great sound for practice, as you might not know that one of designers are the ex Manager of Malmsteen and he's also guitarist .
I believe it's a great deal to have that amp and cabinets simulator they sounding good by just plugging in direct into the mixer and especially if you are good guitar player not a beginner , I use it in lives and its really sounding good , of course cannot replace the real amplifier and pedals but still...
Yep, true. Hope you enjoyed the video :)
I'm mostly interested in the pedal effects that can swell distortion and other effect parameters ... although my Boss GT-1 really does that kind of thing well (ie, set up a patch where the rocker pedal can swell distortion/gain and also decrease overall volume so it doesn't get too loud too ... it's a great thing to just organically swell distortion and other effects .... I think the Boss GT-1 or other Boss multi-effects is the most capable for fine tuning that kind of thing). Still the Zoom G1x four might be good in combination with that .... and I like the Zoom as lopper since it has one pedal to stop the loop .... many pedals have you tap the pedal twice to stop the loop and that is just soooo annoying in my opinion!
@@mountainstartemple6041 I just setup the G1Xfour for a non-technical friend.. spent 6-7 hours on it but sounding very good. That said, yes the Looper is very good! I own a Strymon Timeline, $450 pedal and it has a Looper. I found it very very hard to get a clean loop and I thought I was the problem.... noooo the pedal is the problem. This Zoom unit nailed a almost 30 sec loop first shot! After setting up my friends and saving the patches to a computer I will buy one of these for myself!
Please show the Gate Reverb tks!
Will the amp sim and cab occupy 2 slots in yhe effect chain? tia
2 at the most. Some of them are integrated drive/sim effects
Hello! How are they? Can someone tell me what the effect settings of the LushAcoustic are? I accidentally changed it and I don't want to reset the Zoom G1X because it generates some effects and I don't want to lose them.
You might be able to retrieve it by using the software and USB :) #gearfacts
I love this patch. If I remember I will write it up for you. I am playing with remote control - see here th-cam.com/video/qf1ShHphDrc/w-d-xo.html
I have added links to other who are more advanced - I hope to get a prototype working with touchscreen and Pi 4 over Xmas - you can see hints on the FX for Lush Acoustic but not the values in my video.
Not sure if you found it already. I just reset my pedal:
33 LushAcoust, patch volume 61
Aco.Sim
Top: 80
Body: 82
Tone:100
Vol:80
StereoCho
Depth: 80
Rate: 30
Tone:
Mix: 50
RackComp
Threshold: 18
Ratio: 3
Attack: 7
Volume: 40
ZNR
Detect: GTRIN
Depth: 100
Threshold: 30
Decay: 0
Plate
PreD; 9
Decay: 38
Mix: 37
Tail: off
hope this helps
2023 and the decision is not easier.
The difference in price is only 20€ and for that money you will not find a expression or volume pedal.
I suppose I'll go with the G1 because I'm not the biggest fans of wah and to limit extra bulk.
Any other interaction with the interface, I could probably have gone with the g1x because price is quite close.
Yep I made the same decision, but with the G2.1u and the simpler G2.
@@gearfacts I just discovered they hadn't a lot more models on the G series 4 years ago and they discotinued most of them.
I just wanted something similar to my old 505. I suppose G1four will be butt the entry range pretty much doubled prices since the late 90s.
Sad they discontinued G1u
Yeah there were heaps of them. I just loved the tone of the G2, I guess it suited my style :)
@@xavisimon3095
You can get the G1on very cheap second hand. Might be a good option, it has 95% the same effects as the G1FOUR.@@xavisimon3095
I find it a bit annoying that these new multi-effects pedals from Zoom have cabinet sims separate .... on my Zoom G1on, the cabinet sim is just a setting that is part of the amp simulation! So that there takes up one effects slot where it didn't before. Still I think I'm wanting to get the Zoom G1x Four for various improvements with knobs and buttons and layout and some new delays and such (although I'd miss the particle reverb). I wish one could just go online and delete and replace various effects and whatever to get just what you'd want ... I'd be ditching the "bomber" ~ most useless effect ever ~ for sure and adding something else!.
Yeah I find that pedantic details like that detract from the fun :/
In fact you can delete effects and amps with zoom software
The bass version is it available in your country?
No, I haven't even seen it from Japan retailers yet. GF
I have both (g1xand b1x in pedal form). Turns out they are pretty much the same - just different FX and it is possible to swap FX between them and some of the other Zoom pedals.
Does g1 four has auto wah?
Yep
Those two huge buttons are plastic?
Yep, the whole thing is plastic but pretty solid
@@gearfacts
maybe i should buy this and try to connect this computer speaker maybe it will work?
Just route the g1four through the g1xfour...10 effects; problem solved!
haha actually I did something similar to that: th-cam.com/video/KuT_2TkPZhg/w-d-xo.html
Does this have pitchshift?
Yep
can this do USB recording like with Audacity?
Sadly no, it's just for interfacing with Zoom's Guitar Lab software :/ #gearfacts
@Ruby Baby using an external soundcard? I think the question meant using the zoom as the sound capture device.. which some devices can
wah is torally lousy i only like the whammy and vibe
you say the same over and over. Preparation!!!!!
It was intentional that most facts were repeated twice. This is for various reasons which I won't go into, but I can assure you than when you have as much experience as I do, it's necessary and saves a LOT of correspondence in the long run!
extremely biased on the g1four... skipped the benifits of the pedal entirely...
No, I really have to deny that, I went into quite a lot of detail about the benefits of the pedal, and also warned that with the G1FOUR you can't connect external expression control. I made it clear that you're missing out on a LOT if you don't have the expression pedal. #gearfacts
@@gearfacts 1)in india, the two pedals sell for 75usd and 91usd... so not much of a difference there.
2) the pedal allows to assign any effect parameter from a given patch(not just volume or wah)... you can even control the gain of the distortion effect or the delay and reverb parameters in a patch where no wah or volume change is required... and thats useful and cannot be done by using an external pedal.
3)these are beginners pedals and putting them on a pedalboard having better effects isn't the goal of it...
anyways i use a g1xon and felt that the expression pedal is extremely useful...
however can you suggest that will upgrading to a g1xfour be worth the pain?i got pretty excited about the 5 button for 5 effects control and 4 knobs to control parameters.
Rajarshi Ghosh Dastidar No, it’s not worth upgrading, there are better/cheaper/older options. And it wasn’t bias, it’s just a level of detail I didn’t get into.
@@gearfacts What do you think is the best multi-effects pedal, including used, that can be had for around $100 USD?
@ddur well its in individual patch settings... you can assign any one effect parameter to the pedal... I generally use it to change the gain because then I can play the distorted and relatively cleaner parts on the same patch and it sounds better because the tone matches... I own the g1xon i got for 5000inr on amazon... Its pretty decent