@@ScottJund "Everytime I cast Elden Stars I start healing. It must be an unknown effect of the ability". Hilarious when you know that Royal Remains only heals you at low health lol
It took me like 100 hours to find out some armor had effects. Was always used to just mage hats having all the effects so I didn't bother checking and just used randomized for the fashion
It’s just so fast, like black flame in DS1, plus with poise being basically gone it’s great at stopping people. Shame longer windups aren’t that viable.
@@kathleendeen9611 poise isn't 'basically gone', it is meta defining in this game. the highest poise armor has been banned in many of the competitive circles
Catch Flame is unironically the best incantation in the game, you can hit->rollcatch with it and clear over a third of a dude in full veteran's healthbar. As an ARC build. For 20 FP.
@11:35 Etiquette question - I'm new to the series and still learning. My understanding is that using healing flasks is not allowed. Why is it that people using seppuku or double-seppuku as part of extremely powerful meta builds feel entitled to heal back up after using it? Taking damage is part of the tradeoff of the weapon art, no??
They shouldn't heal, if it's a duel, the self damage is part of the buff, they choose to seppuku, they chose to start off with less health. Doesn't stop dicks being dicks tho, smh. q.q
there 100% are people who use cheat engine to raise their stats without raising their level. Got invaded by someone at level 26 who had 2100 health, full bullgoats, and enough into to cast the moon spell.
One of my first invasions I ran into a CE user. I was in Sellia and found this guy who was naked except for a knight's helmet and who auto-parried every attack, including spells, but it never caused a parry react in me, just canceled the damage on him. Then, after it was clear I couldn't actually damage him, he hit some button on his end and I took damage from nowhere until I died. I'm on PC and Bamco went through all this rigamarole to put in 3rd party anti-cheat software due to that RCP exploit, but it's doing absolutely nothing to stop actual cheaters. You also constantly run into players with armor and gear they shouldnt' have at extremely low levels, or doubles of things they can't get doubles of unless they're on new game + which is either due to cheats or trades.
I love the confusion from Elden Stars possibly having a healing buff, but in reality Elden Stars is just so punishable you have no health and the royal remains buff kicks in.
As somebody who just beat the game as an INT/FAI hybrid with a focus on death and frost….yes the death spells blow for the most part. Explosive Ghostflame takes a million years and only does OK damage, Tibia Summons also take forever to come out and their tracking is absolute ass, Fia’s mist doesn’t build the status effect fast enough to matter and it dissipates pretty quickly, and the more powerful rancor spell is….fine for covering an advance since it can stagger repeatedly as long as somebody isn’t a poise monster and it’ll make them evade, but the damage still isn’t anything to write home about. Hopefully they buff those incantations, because putting them behind Hybrid stats for so little actual payoff is ROUGH.
Same here. I beat the game on this build. It’s super niche but I like it as it plays to my advantage. People panic roll AF with this build meaning I can capitalise on it
I really don't get why int/faith builds are now so bad that they get outperformed by basically anything at most levels... I mean technically the prince of death staff has the highest damage multiplier of all staffs but you literally need 80/80 int faith for that to work, so that's some bs...
It’s really helped my PVP to listen to what you’re thinking mid combat. It’s really interesting and so good even when you mess up and you acknowledge it. Much respect ✊🏻 moar vidz pls 👹
I have to say I have used the moon in duels, gotten kills with it and also absorbed my opponents spells with it. It's unlikely to hit but when it does it slaps. The best part however is that even if they roll the damage they still get the magic damage debuff, much like how status procs happen when you roll the hits, so it's not useless.
Best start to any video so far haha this is an awesome combo, been considering trying an int/faith hybrid this will be a perfect start to try out. Thanks man.
The one time I faced an INT/FAI hybrid, I didn't know what Elden Stars was and panic rolled myself out of existence. Not gonna fall for it again, considering the damage is piss weak, but due to the fact nobody uses INT/FAI I have no doubt that absolute chad has been finding huge success with his build.
My main lv 150 mage is int/faith. Been invading and dualing like mad, and honestly. Everyone panic rolls projectile spam. Despite it doing like 12 damage a hit..
@@draconiandraco Honestly? I think people might be afraid of getting stun locked by projectiles. I have no idea if the dude casting sorceries has a comet azur or some other loony bullshit up their sleeve.
@@The1Undying for me personally, opening with an Elden stars into a death rancour, followed by bairn into a free aimed delayed magma fireball to catch their panic rolls works best. And if they roll away from the fireball? Knock them into it with a Cannon of Haima
If none of that works, some star spells generally finish the fight. It even works really well against Carian retaliation since running/rolling towards me normally means you're about to get clapped by everything at once.
9:41 The magma mine I think is decent for protecting yourself, preventing people from getting up on you. At least, it would be if it didn't take forever to cast. Have you thought about incorporating stars of ruin on this build? That plus ancient death rancor plus elden stars seems like it would be super annoying to dodge.
This is exactly how I expected this build to go. I really wish they had a mixed casting tool or weapon casting tool like DS3. I was really disappointed when I specced into it on my first playthrough because I ended up just cheesing with the sword of night and flame and using mostly incantations.
And at 50/50 int/faith it hits like a truck . A straight sword that smacks harder than great swords then you buff it with the fire boost and magic boost in your flask . Highest AR duel wield I’ve found so far
Also wish they had a “Dark” magic type. Dark builds were so Chad in DS3 because sooo many weapons had great dark infusion scaling + you had stats to run an assortment of utility spells.
Same. I really hope all those spells get buffed. Death Rancor should be much faster, Ancient Death Rancor should cost less FP and do more damage. Explosive Ghostflame needs a bigger AOE, much faster cast, and to have the backswing removed entirely. Prince of Death Staff needs better scaling. Really hope we get some more Int/Fth weapons in a patch or DLC too, because there are only 2 afaik, and SONAF was nerfed into the ground for stupid reasons(like being OP only against surprised stationary bosses with huge hitboxes, on flat terrain, with like 6 buffs stacked including bugged ones).
Yes! Hybrid caster is my go to build since late ds3. This is my exact build but totally different spells than you for the most part, it’s such an interesting fast-paced build. Carrian piercer and the crucible incants (except breath) have hyper armor, interestingly-gives the build some much needed support up close
To counter BH step on this build carry a noble estoc with storm stomp. When they step in stomp, catch flame, poke. They'll get stunned and true combo'd into combustion, then when they roll away the tracking will have your estoc land true
Using a cold Misericorde to pair with ancient death rancor to proc frostbite is really nice, the 20% dam absorption reduction is huge when you follow up with sword of night and flame. Great video
@@SuperCatacata with frost proc it does well, obv still doesn’t one shot but it’s works really well. I’ve been using it on a RL 83 invading at capital outskirts. I have 71 rune arcs, so I think I’ve gotten a successful 50-60 or so invasions with it. I don’t ever use the Magic weapon art, I use the Flame art to disperse groups when overwhelmed. Otherwise, I just use basic lights and heavies to follow up after frostbite if I can proc it since the damage shines with frostbite.
this is great. I really appreciate this a lot for the viability of a fluid and varied meta. I know power is a certain kind of way today, but I do feel better about the bracket at least in general when something like this is shown and expanded upon, and at least presented as being possible. Respect.
Unsure if anyone else commented this, but from what I have heard (and so far have seen? haven't tested every level range though) the Prince of Death Staff outperforms every other staff if your Int & Faith are within 5 points of each other. If they are further apart, either Lusat's or another staff will have higher Sorc scaling. I think similar data has been shown with the Golden Order Seal vs. something like the Erdtree Seal. So yeah at 80INT the Lusat's is best, but if you are 80/75 (Int/Fth) the Prince will have higher scaling. Obviously high level monster stats, but yeah... lol
Using an Int/Faith build myself (Level 250 now) I've found it to be very useful to have the buffing staffs/seals on the opposite hand of that primary casting hand. E.g. Your main seal is in your right hand, and then the other 2 weapon slots have staves and your primary staff is in your left hand while the other 2 slots have seals. In this way you can cast both spells and sorceries, while also having the ability to hot swap your off hand for bonus damage. I mostly use the holy order seal (primary) with off hand dragon communion and gravel stone seal for dragon cult. As far as staves I use the Prince of Death's Staff primarily now with the Meteorite Staff and Carian Glintblade Staff offhand, but other useful staffs also include Staff of Loss for invisibility spells, or Carian Glintstone Staff for spells like Adula's moonblade or Carian Slicer if you favor the sword sorceries.
Playing a build very similar to this for pvp at lv.190 (with some arcane) I usually run a fluid 4-5 spell combo of Elden Stars (skippable) -> Stars of Ruin -> Ancient Death Rancor -> Rykard’s Rancor -> Rot Breath/Loretta’s Greatbow/Cannon of Haima. I’d say it’s mostly a scare factor combo but still loads of fun.
I would love to see you do a Clearnrot Knight Inspired build. While they may not be the toughest enemies in game I found them to be interesting enemies to fight, with them usually combining a thrusting sword with either their halo sythe or spear to usally keep you far away. Watching your Narrated thoughts duels with the pike made me want to try out the cleanrot. While I couldn't really get a build to work, I also have no idea what I am doing as this is my first FS game. Anyways, been loving the work you do and I am looking forward to see what kind of builds you do decide to do next.
Scott the only sorcery you used was a pointless death sorcery. I feel like a faith build with the crystal staff that increases cast speed would be more viable and have the same effect of throwing your opponents off guard.
I've done a lot of tweaking for this sort of INT/FTH hybrid, I've found its best to go for Arcane scaling (since you can easily get +13 Arcane) over INT/FTH scaling (Albinauric stave is 320 at 37INT/50ARC, the seal is about 330 at 32FTH/50ARC) which grants you the full suite of spells with only minimal loss of the useful high-level spells (really just Comet). The biggest help for this build is to build around the sheer amount of chain casting sorceries and incants (can't use sorceries to chain cast into incants and vice versa), flame catch+bloodflame talons, bestial sling+honed bolt or theodrix's magma, swift glinstone shard/night shard+cometshard/shard spiral/glinstone arc. Also, Ancient Death Rancor out ranges Stars of Ruin and due to the poise damage you can cast 2-3 of them uncharged and then run up and do a jumping dragon breath while they try to avoid it or are getting stunlocked by trying to tank it.
Not sure about the sorcery scaling, but there's a gelmir's glintstone staff that has much lower soft caps for int and faith scaling. It also buffs lava sorceries if any of those are worth anything at all. Edit: Yeah the prince of death's staff actually scales pretty poorly until 60, and then from 60 to 80 you get better gains. The gelmir staff might be better for a hybrid that's not level 180
to add to ideas for this build: sorceries/incantations that have the "can be cast repeatedly" trait can actually combo into each other most terrifying caster i've fought in PvP so far used running beast sling into a combo'd honed bolt, which comes out way faster
i saw someone doing something similar to this build but he was doing the spell startup cancel exploit to throw skulls out like a maniac. was super cool but looked pretty OP. id really like them to fix the exploit and just add faster cast animation to some of the slower spells. maybe increase cast speed by two handing catalyst? the crazy projectile build is actually kinda neat tho.
Your videos are great! I've watched your other 3 narrated thought duels/invasions. I spent 4-5 hours setting up a PvP character last night. Settling at RL ~50-60 for invasions. I'm slightly nervous about the deuling/invading landscape so watching these videos has been a god-send. Thanks for taking the time to make them!
a very important part of creating a pure caster is the synergy between spells, if you have a good idea of how your opponent will react to certain spells then you can flowchart out interactions with your spell lineup. A good example of this is ancient death rancor, the two most common reactions to it are to strafe it, or to aggress the caster, so you can run spells to deal with these flowchart options (something like crucible breath for an aggressing opponent, and poking tools like flames of frenzy for passive opponents), ancient death rancor is an incredible neutral tool and absolutely one of the best spells you have available on an int/fth caster
Making an INT/FAI build has been my dream for Elden Ring since the moment the game came out - it's really cool to see one taken to PvP! And, yeah, really wish that Prince of Death & Mt Gelmir staves had better scaling - whole build archetypes shouldn't be relegated to being New Game+, IMO. Curious about the decision not to use the Sword of Night and Flame - was Catch Flame more reliable as a close-range attack? Love seeing the Regal Omen Bairn get some love, too - I think it's easy for people to forget about it.
Healing after seppuku makes me call into question the whole 'allow your opponent to buff before' thing. If people are going to do that, think the most fair option is just not expecting to be able to buff, and just going ham from the first second possible. Think if you have to rely on someone letting you buff, balance goes out the window right there. Duels should be anything goes from the player side of things, and devs should balance anything else beyond that.
When the self-damage is intended as part of the 'balance' on such a blatantly overpowerd imbalanced ability, don't think I'm ever going to assume I can buff, or let anyone get away with it. Not allowing healing flasks in duels is kinda stupid also, since having a lot of defenses and mobility makes flask usage more worthwhile, which nerfs an aspect of a build potentially. If your opponent can do it too, it should be considered alright to use. In a lot of other multiplayer games, burst damage is balanced by 'sustain'. Some builds will be stronger simply because nobody is expected to use heals in the fight. If you're not using something very FP efficient, healing will partially counter you.
@@charlesbronson8112 Some people allow healing spells because of their long cast time, some don't. It depends on the people you're playing with but as a general rule they normally aren't allowed. People I normally play with think if you can get off a heal spell or buff mid match it's fair game but pre buffing is cringe.
Hi Scott! I can't play Elden Ring yet because 2022 has not been my year, but I've been living the game through my little brother and your videos! I think a INT/FAI build that specializes in frost magic to slow the opponent to make powerful incantations land more consistently would be great!
I dare you to try noble’s presense. It’s fast, good damage with foreskin noble armor and you can charge it for the memes. Any kind of close range fast punish on a caster have been really good so far.
Giant's Flame Take Thee and Flame Fall Upon Them I've been finding are very fun incants in duels, especially randomly pulling out a charged Flame Take Thee which has a huge AOE blast
Ok so you could also int spec a polearm with the phantom slash because it’s a ghost, and that’s what originally gave me MY idea for the death sorcery thing, and the mist isn’t actually the worst thing ever. But I kinda connected death and cold so I mixed in the cold spells and frostbite on my weapons.
Scott Jund. The only YT to do duels in pvp and choose armor due to how it looks and not knowing any effects it can do. xD Sorry, I just found that idea funny.
"every time i cast elden stars i start healing" judging by how everybody is saying its the royal remains armor providing regen, this says alot about how bad elden stars us
the guy that you were curious about cheating or not but was suspect of his health not being maxed may have been using that one talisman that reduces FP cost at the cost of a chunk of health taking away several hundred HP but still leaving him at over 2k.
I have an idea that's not really related to this video but wouldn't buffing "Resistances" (I.E. the thing that's supposed to negate status effects) by having them reduce the effect; as in having higher Robustness reduces the health loss when it procs and of course tune down Hemorrhage so it's still a good threat against builds that trade survivability for damage and not the absolute dread that it is....maybe?
I’m pretty sure the level cap only works for invasions and You can still summon/ be summoned by higher players for duels. I’ve been in a few duels where guys were impossibly strong Also the Royal remains armour has passive heal
0:52 I SHOULD HAVE PUT MY SIGN DOWN DAMN! I fought HEAT, in the exact same place, where that sign is exactly. It was even around the time would have been recording this. Sad I missed you by *that* much. Also HEAT, if you read this. I was the Shadow Queen. Yes I am a nerd. Two whips was fucking hilarious, but I really didn't know what to do while I was using the zweihander. Edit: 3:20. I saw that guy too! I didn't fight him though as I saw the two katanas and blurred out name and said "nope"
I actually main an Int/Fai death build, and Explosive ghostflame is actually quite good as a finisher. The AOE explosion is very large and it does around 750 damage for me at around 55/55 int/fai. Additionally, it cant be rolled through! Also, the skeletons can't hit a moving target, but due to their range you can use it to punish people casting elden stars or frenzied flame burst. But as you found, Ancient death rancor is the best death spell out of all of them. I haven't really tried Fia's mist in pvp, but I know it is a useful zoning/disengage
Glad to see someone use this in pvp, I did the whole death socerery thing in the story and didn't dare take it into pvp, fia's mist was something I wanted to try, as it only works in pvp / tarnished.
I’ve honestly find Int/Faith not to be that hard. Your melee is very limited of course, but you can easily make up for that in Golden Order Seal and Death Prince Staff both having pretty nice Spell Scaling on them with the right stats. Talismans that buff spells are also always on the table. As for my final note, I’ve found that the Gelmir Glintstone Staff is actually a bit better than Staff of The Death Prince around the 40/40 Int/Faith Range. Hope this helped anyone who reads this wanting to try Int/Faith
Have you tried the Triple Rings of Light spell? Its fairly fast, covers a wide area and is very good at zoning opponents because it goes out and back to you like a boomerang. The damage isn't the highest but its enough to make opponents have to stay at a distance or roll away. It stops a lot of pressure because of the boomerang effect they can't pressure you because the rings will hit them in the back.
OH NO, I was curious about int/fth spells while starting my new character, though they still seems possibly fun. I’ve more slack going a little over meta for invasions, so I was trying to lower the int and get an arc catalyst for Fia’s mist and madness/bleed incantations (silver tear mask and Marika’s helping a little), and adding weapons/infusions, but idk. Since death resistance seemed low I was curious for this unusual theme, but it’s so gimmicky. Shame the deathblight weapon needs so much dex too. I’ll make the build fun somehow
Would love to see you show off the Giant's Red Braid alongside mostly fire spells. Granted it's mostly gonna be Catch Flame but I think the whip has one of the coolest WA's out there.
regards to the "why can't i drink" you can't really queue combined inputs from rolling (y+rb, y+dpad) learned this the hard way trying to 2hand for bloodhound step when i had to roll from a gonker 3v1.
At 50/50 FTH/INT the Gelmir Glintstone staff has about equal damage although without the boost to death spells. After that is where prince of death overtakes it.
For the guy who cast a million things but low health, I think there is a talisman that lowers fp cost but reduces health. From what I remember its not that much reduction so maybe they are just cheating
I tested out using Elden Stars on a halberd faith build. It was basically something I used when they over spaced and then while they panicked, I'd rush them down. It was honestly working really well.
You can do 70 int/50 faith and the mixed scaling casting items will still have the same scaling as 60/60 while being able to cast any spell. Also, the healing comes from your armor: the royal remains pieces all give regen when below about 25% or so HP. It seems like you get regen from elden stars because you tend to take damage when you try to cast it xD
I'm surprised that you don't use the triple rings spell. I think it might count as a fundamentalist spell (most of the faith/int spells). It also can cover you quite well because not only do they go out, but they come back which could give you some extra time to cast even more spells. If I am right about them being fundamentalist I think you then would get a buff based on your seal.
20:57 Fair point, but at the same time without bloodhound step there wouldn't be much of a way to avoid builds like the type of build you're using in this video. It's fairly annoying yes but with certain things it's more necessary than regular rolls.
for the dude that you thought was cheating, he MAY have been using the winged crystal tear which multiplies your equip load max by 4.5 with a int/faith build
I tried to make a carian spell sorc build with earth spells, and it was fun, but yes using the right cast tool just breaks your brain sometimes in the middle of combat.
Tried the same build. You are 1000% correct. The death spells suck and need a huge buff. I've found I get 90% of all my kills with catch flame and Bestial Sling. I would've kept the sword of night and flame on the offhand. It's a good melee weapon for that build. Wrath of Gold is good too. Good damage and comes off fast and can be charged for mixup. Also the breath and the horns are better crucible spell imo
My main PvE/Fuckaround build is Int/Faith (although I'm closer to lvl 200) and the option to use lots of incantations AND sorceries is very fun Elden Stars is pretty meh for PvE but when I did the invasions you have to for the one dudes quest it's pretty fun. Guaranteed way to make someone run away
INT/FTH seems like it's better for invasions than duels. Stuff like Radagon's Rings of Light are more about attacking groups than single characters, and most of the death spells also work better for AoEs rather than single targets. I'm currently setting up this build to invade myself, mostly to have fun.
I've used Dragonmaw to GREAT effect in invasions because of the hyperarmor it gives. It's really good at punishing running R1 poke from thrusting swords and spears. I've done 1200 dmg using the dragon communion seal +10 @ 40 faith/40 arcane. IDK effectiveness in duels but it is fun to throw out every now and then to mix things up when they think you're going for a breath attack.
Rykard's Rancor is actually very underrated in pvp. You can cast it and follow its tail and roll past the enemy they will get hit by the multiple blasts and take massive dmg.
I wish in these games they'd build in some deliberately overleveled OP spells, like a spell that requires 70 int + 70 faith and is obviously better than every other spell.
I've been only utilizing bloodhound step on a light weapon like a whip in a secondary slot, for 1 to get away from fat aoes/unavoidable like ruin of stars. Also, if you have a dupe weapon with a quick attack w/a or shout, you can use a mix up mid series of dashes on a weapon swap for extra style, and a confusing experience for your foe lol.
Imo slicer is the better option than catch flame if you're running both cause slicer has slightly more range on it, and even with the death staff its better to run stars of ruin than death rancor. Also why no upgraded rot breath?
I wonder if it might be better to go albanuric staff and dragon seal, meet min req for the spells you want, then just use arcane to cast... isn't the arcane Scaling cap only like 45?
The thing about the Prince of death staff is that you don't actually have to use it to cast the incantation to get the bonus for death spells. Just hold it in your off hand and use it actually good staff.
@@Jadeviper00 right.. so let me just have to constantly switch weapons EVERY time I want to cast a specific type of sorcery while I'm already fumbling between juggling incants with L1 and sorceries with R1 in a quick pace fight..
Int+faith is mostly good for PVE and Coop for the buffs. But spells are kind of a bit easier to i-frame. I tried the discus as well, they don't deal much damage.
What if you used Albinuric staff(Primarily Arcane scaling) Dragon communion seal(Primarily Arcane scaling) and only raised your int/faith enough to qualify for the spells you want to use?
The royal remains armor has some health recovery when you are low health. Pretty cool effect
Oh it's only at low health? I thought it was just not working when I tried it. Good to know.
oh no shit, had no idea, neat
Yeah I wore it for a long while because “haha skeleton armor” but then I noticed the healing which was pretty neat.
@@ScottJund "Everytime I cast Elden Stars I start healing. It must be an unknown effect of the ability". Hilarious when you know that Royal Remains only heals you at low health lol
@@ScottJund It's aight, I can't read either lol
I like how, because Scott didn't know what his armor did, that means he picked it for pure fashion. Chad.
my characters name is I Like Skulls, i had to
It took me like 100 hours to find out some armor had effects. Was always used to just mage hats having all the effects so I didn't bother checking and just used randomized for the fashion
Facts
@@NinjapowerMS That's kinda sad.
@@TheSuperbhs True, but acting as if anything in a game matters is equally as sad.
I love how Scott has all these cool spells but everything always seems to come back to just good ol’ reliable Catch Flame
It’s just so fast, like black flame in DS1, plus with poise being basically gone it’s great at stopping people. Shame longer windups aren’t that viable.
@@kathleendeen9611 poise isn't 'basically gone', it is meta defining in this game. the highest poise armor has been banned in many of the competitive circles
also bleed sidesteps poise. maybe thats what they meant
Catch Flame is unironically the best incantation in the game, you can hit->rollcatch with it and clear over a third of a dude in full veteran's healthbar. As an ARC build. For 20 FP.
@@goldster100 Losers xd
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@11:35 Etiquette question - I'm new to the series and still learning. My understanding is that using healing flasks is not allowed. Why is it that people using seppuku or double-seppuku as part of extremely powerful meta builds feel entitled to heal back up after using it? Taking damage is part of the tradeoff of the weapon art, no??
They shouldn't heal, if it's a duel, the self damage is part of the buff, they choose to seppuku, they chose to start off with less health.
Doesn't stop dicks being dicks tho, smh. q.q
That's actually a really fair and interesting question haha
"out of my comfort zone" *still has catch flame and bestial sling*
there 100% are people who use cheat engine to raise their stats without raising their level. Got invaded by someone at level 26 who had 2100 health, full bullgoats, and enough into to cast the moon spell.
I fought someone with around 5200 HP. I can believe it.
imagine cheating just to use the moon lol
imagine cheating just to be bAd
@@servalkorion686 That's kinda why those losers cheat in the first place
Can't git gud
One of my first invasions I ran into a CE user. I was in Sellia and found this guy who was naked except for a knight's helmet and who auto-parried every attack, including spells, but it never caused a parry react in me, just canceled the damage on him. Then, after it was clear I couldn't actually damage him, he hit some button on his end and I took damage from nowhere until I died.
I'm on PC and Bamco went through all this rigamarole to put in 3rd party anti-cheat software due to that RCP exploit, but it's doing absolutely nothing to stop actual cheaters. You also constantly run into players with armor and gear they shouldnt' have at extremely low levels, or doubles of things they can't get doubles of unless they're on new game + which is either due to cheats or trades.
I love the confusion from Elden Stars possibly having a healing buff, but in reality Elden Stars is just so punishable you have no health and the royal remains buff kicks in.
As somebody who just beat the game as an INT/FAI hybrid with a focus on death and frost….yes the death spells blow for the most part. Explosive Ghostflame takes a million years and only does OK damage, Tibia Summons also take forever to come out and their tracking is absolute ass, Fia’s mist doesn’t build the status effect fast enough to matter and it dissipates pretty quickly, and the more powerful rancor spell is….fine for covering an advance since it can stagger repeatedly as long as somebody isn’t a poise monster and it’ll make them evade, but the damage still isn’t anything to write home about. Hopefully they buff those incantations, because putting them behind Hybrid stats for so little actual payoff is ROUGH.
Same here. I beat the game on this build. It’s super niche but I like it as it plays to my advantage. People panic roll AF with this build meaning I can capitalise on it
@@thepermanentshockedface9177 aren’t slow spells that are used for pressure shit at roll catching?
I really don't get why int/faith builds are now so bad that they get outperformed by basically anything at most levels... I mean technically the prince of death staff has the highest damage multiplier of all staffs but you literally need 80/80 int faith for that to work, so that's some bs...
@@rigel9228 probably overcorrection from ds2-3, same reason why quality is worse at meta lvls compared to ds1-3
"What the hell is all this!"
Exactly what you want to hear at the beginning of a video explaining a build.
the royal remains armor has a healing affect when your health gets low, so in a way it is elden stars, just you almost die every time you use it.
This build is the "RANDOM BULLSHIT GO!" meme personified and i'm fucking here for it
So this build is basically "The most random spells possible before whipping out Catch Flame"
It’s really helped my PVP to listen to what you’re thinking mid combat. It’s really interesting and so good even when you mess up and you acknowledge it. Much respect ✊🏻 moar vidz pls 👹
I have to say I have used the moon in duels, gotten kills with it and also absorbed my opponents spells with it. It's unlikely to hit but when it does it slaps. The best part however is that even if they roll the damage they still get the magic damage debuff, much like how status procs happen when you roll the hits, so it's not useless.
Best start to any video so far haha this is an awesome combo, been considering trying an int/faith hybrid this will be a perfect start to try out. Thanks man.
The one time I faced an INT/FAI hybrid, I didn't know what Elden Stars was and panic rolled myself out of existence. Not gonna fall for it again, considering the damage is piss weak, but due to the fact nobody uses INT/FAI I have no doubt that absolute chad has been finding huge success with his build.
My main lv 150 mage is int/faith. Been invading and dualing like mad, and honestly. Everyone panic rolls projectile spam. Despite it doing like 12 damage a hit..
@@draconiandraco Honestly? I think people might be afraid of getting stun locked by projectiles. I have no idea if the dude casting sorceries has a comet azur or some other loony bullshit up their sleeve.
@@The1Undying for me personally, opening with an Elden stars into a death rancour, followed by bairn into a free aimed delayed magma fireball to catch their panic rolls works best. And if they roll away from the fireball? Knock them into it with a Cannon of Haima
If none of that works, some star spells generally finish the fight. It even works really well against Carian retaliation since running/rolling towards me normally means you're about to get clapped by everything at once.
@@The1Undying precisely why I love it! People become too afraid to engage and panic roll. I ensure I have a mix of close and long range.
9:41 The magma mine I think is decent for protecting yourself, preventing people from getting up on you. At least, it would be if it didn't take forever to cast.
Have you thought about incorporating stars of ruin on this build? That plus ancient death rancor plus elden stars seems like it would be super annoying to dodge.
Thanks for messing around on these new builds Scott. Its great to see people getting creative.
This is exactly how I expected this build to go. I really wish they had a mixed casting tool or weapon casting tool like DS3. I was really disappointed when I specced into it on my first playthrough because I ended up just cheesing with the sword of night and flame and using mostly incantations.
I think the magma spells also are Int/Faith. And of course on the Faith side, there is the Golden Order spells
Really like this series, I've never done much pvp so hearing your thought process during a fight really helps me understand things to look out for.
This build really wants like... an Elite controller for the paddles on the backside.
You should run the Sword of Night and Flame on this character, runs on the same stats you have on this build
And at 50/50 int/faith it hits like a truck . A straight sword that smacks harder than great swords then you buff it with the fire boost and magic boost in your flask . Highest AR duel wield I’ve found so far
@@Juice2Juiced yea i think alot of people think the weapon is not strong anymore lol. Imagine powerstancing them my goodness.
fantastic video. its awesome to see a skilled player using a less optimal/more rare build to see what it can do
Also wish they had a “Dark” magic type. Dark builds were so Chad in DS3 because sooo many weapons had great dark infusion scaling + you had stats to run an assortment of utility spells.
Same. I really hope all those spells get buffed. Death Rancor should be much faster, Ancient Death Rancor should cost less FP and do more damage. Explosive Ghostflame needs a bigger AOE, much faster cast, and to have the backswing removed entirely. Prince of Death Staff needs better scaling. Really hope we get some more Int/Fth weapons in a patch or DLC too, because there are only 2 afaik, and SONAF was nerfed into the ground for stupid reasons(like being OP only against surprised stationary bosses with huge hitboxes, on flat terrain, with like 6 buffs stacked including bugged ones).
Yes! Hybrid caster is my go to build since late ds3. This is my exact build but totally different spells than you for the most part, it’s such an interesting fast-paced build.
Carrian piercer and the crucible incants (except breath) have hyper armor, interestingly-gives the build some much needed support up close
To counter BH step on this build carry a noble estoc with storm stomp. When they step in stomp, catch flame, poke. They'll get stunned and true combo'd into combustion, then when they roll away the tracking will have your estoc land true
Using a cold Misericorde to pair with ancient death rancor to proc frostbite is really nice, the 20% dam absorption reduction is huge when you follow up with sword of night and flame. Great video
Sword of night and flame for PvP duels?
Good luck with that.
Unless you are posting PvE strats on a mostly PvP channel. Lol
@@SuperCatacata with frost proc it does well, obv still doesn’t one shot but it’s works really well. I’ve been using it on a RL 83 invading at capital outskirts. I have 71 rune arcs, so I think I’ve gotten a successful 50-60 or so invasions with it. I don’t ever use the Magic weapon art, I use the Flame art to disperse groups when overwhelmed. Otherwise, I just use basic lights and heavies to follow up after frostbite if I can proc it since the damage shines with frostbite.
12:08 That is actually the grossest thing I've seen in this game holy shit
this is great. I really appreciate this a lot for the viability of a fluid and varied meta. I know power is a certain kind of way today, but I do feel better about the bracket at least in general when something like this is shown and expanded upon, and at least presented as being possible. Respect.
Unsure if anyone else commented this, but from what I have heard (and so far have seen? haven't tested every level range though) the Prince of Death Staff outperforms every other staff if your Int & Faith are within 5 points of each other. If they are further apart, either Lusat's or another staff will have higher Sorc scaling. I think similar data has been shown with the Golden Order Seal vs. something like the Erdtree Seal. So yeah at 80INT the Lusat's is best, but if you are 80/75 (Int/Fth) the Prince will have higher scaling. Obviously high level monster stats, but yeah... lol
Using an Int/Faith build myself (Level 250 now) I've found it to be very useful to have the buffing staffs/seals on the opposite hand of that primary casting hand. E.g. Your main seal is in your right hand, and then the other 2 weapon slots have staves and your primary staff is in your left hand while the other 2 slots have seals. In this way you can cast both spells and sorceries, while also having the ability to hot swap your off hand for bonus damage. I mostly use the holy order seal (primary) with off hand dragon communion and gravel stone seal for dragon cult. As far as staves I use the Prince of Death's Staff primarily now with the Meteorite Staff and Carian Glintblade Staff offhand, but other useful staffs also include Staff of Loss for invisibility spells, or Carian Glintstone Staff for spells like Adula's moonblade or Carian Slicer if you favor the sword sorceries.
I can’t believe he turned elden ring into a bullet hell game
Playing a build very similar to this for pvp at lv.190 (with some arcane) I usually run a fluid 4-5 spell combo of Elden Stars (skippable) -> Stars of Ruin -> Ancient Death Rancor -> Rykard’s Rancor -> Rot Breath/Loretta’s Greatbow/Cannon of Haima. I’d say it’s mostly a scare factor combo but still loads of fun.
I would love to see you do a Clearnrot Knight Inspired build. While they may not be the toughest enemies in game I found them to be interesting enemies to fight, with them usually combining a thrusting sword with either their halo sythe or spear to usally keep you far away. Watching your Narrated thoughts duels with the pike made me want to try out the cleanrot. While I couldn't really get a build to work, I also have no idea what I am doing as this is my first FS game. Anyways, been loving the work you do and I am looking forward to see what kind of builds you do decide to do next.
Scott the only sorcery you used was a pointless death sorcery. I feel like a faith build with the crystal staff that increases cast speed would be more viable and have the same effect of throwing your opponents off guard.
i mean yes, i know. the death spells are all terrible. im just trying stuff out dude
@@ScottJund waiting for a 2.0 version of this build, with viable sorcery to utilize that 56 int
@@ScottJund yes, but you only used 1 sorcery, that's my point.
I've done a lot of tweaking for this sort of INT/FTH hybrid, I've found its best to go for Arcane scaling (since you can easily get +13 Arcane) over INT/FTH scaling (Albinauric stave is 320 at 37INT/50ARC, the seal is about 330 at 32FTH/50ARC) which grants you the full suite of spells with only minimal loss of the useful high-level spells (really just Comet). The biggest help for this build is to build around the sheer amount of chain casting sorceries and incants (can't use sorceries to chain cast into incants and vice versa), flame catch+bloodflame talons, bestial sling+honed bolt or theodrix's magma, swift glinstone shard/night shard+cometshard/shard spiral/glinstone arc. Also, Ancient Death Rancor out ranges Stars of Ruin and due to the poise damage you can cast 2-3 of them uncharged and then run up and do a jumping dragon breath while they try to avoid it or are getting stunlocked by trying to tank it.
Not sure about the sorcery scaling, but there's a gelmir's glintstone staff that has much lower soft caps for int and faith scaling. It also buffs lava sorceries if any of those are worth anything at all.
Edit: Yeah the prince of death's staff actually scales pretty poorly until 60, and then from 60 to 80 you get better gains. The gelmir staff might be better for a hybrid that's not level 180
Lava sorcerys are asshole trash garbage
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"I respect people who go up in my ass"
-Scott Jund
to add to ideas for this build: sorceries/incantations that have the "can be cast repeatedly" trait can actually combo into each other
most terrifying caster i've fought in PvP so far used running beast sling into a combo'd honed bolt, which comes out way faster
Scott's done a video about that glitch, and using it's pretty cheesy, ngl.
i saw someone doing something similar to this build but he was doing the spell startup cancel exploit to throw skulls out like a maniac. was super cool but looked pretty OP.
id really like them to fix the exploit and just add faster cast animation to some of the slower spells. maybe increase cast speed by two handing catalyst? the crazy projectile build is actually kinda neat tho.
Your videos are great! I've watched your other 3 narrated thought duels/invasions.
I spent 4-5 hours setting up a PvP character last night. Settling at RL ~50-60 for invasions.
I'm slightly nervous about the deuling/invading landscape so watching these videos has been a god-send. Thanks for taking the time to make them!
a very important part of creating a pure caster is the synergy between spells, if you have a good idea of how your opponent will react to certain spells then you can flowchart out interactions with your spell lineup. A good example of this is ancient death rancor, the two most common reactions to it are to strafe it, or to aggress the caster, so you can run spells to deal with these flowchart options (something like crucible breath for an aggressing opponent, and poking tools like flames of frenzy for passive opponents), ancient death rancor is an incredible neutral tool and absolutely one of the best spells you have available on an int/fth caster
Making an INT/FAI build has been my dream for Elden Ring since the moment the game came out - it's really cool to see one taken to PvP! And, yeah, really wish that Prince of Death & Mt Gelmir staves had better scaling - whole build archetypes shouldn't be relegated to being New Game+, IMO.
Curious about the decision not to use the Sword of Night and Flame - was Catch Flame more reliable as a close-range attack? Love seeing the Regal Omen Bairn get some love, too - I think it's easy for people to forget about it.
How you didnt tbag that dual naginata user is beyond me, they each deserve atleast 1 bag, multiple if they heal after seppuku
Healing after seppuku makes me call into question the whole 'allow your opponent to buff before' thing. If people are going to do that, think the most fair option is just not expecting to be able to buff, and just going ham from the first second possible. Think if you have to rely on someone letting you buff, balance goes out the window right there. Duels should be anything goes from the player side of things, and devs should balance anything else beyond that.
When the self-damage is intended as part of the 'balance' on such a blatantly overpowerd imbalanced ability, don't think I'm ever going to assume I can buff, or let anyone get away with it. Not allowing healing flasks in duels is kinda stupid also, since having a lot of defenses and mobility makes flask usage more worthwhile, which nerfs an aspect of a build potentially. If your opponent can do it too, it should be considered alright to use. In a lot of other multiplayer games, burst damage is balanced by 'sustain'. Some builds will be stronger simply because nobody is expected to use heals in the fight. If you're not using something very FP efficient, healing will partially counter you.
@@Ajmes Healing flasks aren't allowed because summons have half the flasks that hosts have
@@guts2630 is it allowed to use healing spells? It would be cool if in duels only, each player gets 1 heal
@@charlesbronson8112 Some people allow healing spells because of their long cast time, some don't. It depends on the people you're playing with but as a general rule they normally aren't allowed. People I normally play with think if you can get off a heal spell or buff mid match it's fair game but pre buffing is cringe.
Hi Scott! I can't play Elden Ring yet because 2022 has not been my year, but I've been living the game through my little brother and your videos! I think a INT/FAI build that specializes in frost magic to slow the opponent to make powerful incantations land more consistently would be great!
I dare you to try noble’s presense. It’s fast, good damage with foreskin noble armor and you can charge it for the memes. Any kind of close range fast punish on a caster have been really good so far.
Giant's Flame Take Thee and Flame Fall Upon Them I've been finding are very fun incants in duels, especially randomly pulling out a charged Flame Take Thee which has a huge AOE blast
Yes it's actually not terribly if you aim it freely
Ok so you could also int spec a polearm with the phantom slash because it’s a ghost, and that’s what originally gave me MY idea for the death sorcery thing, and the mist isn’t actually the worst thing ever. But I kinda connected death and cold so I mixed in the cold spells and frostbite on my weapons.
I've found that the flame breath aspect of the crucible spell has helped with bloodhound step as long as they don't uber poise stack.
Scott Jund. The only YT to do duels in pvp and choose armor due to how it looks and not knowing any effects it can do. xD Sorry, I just found that idea funny.
"every time i cast elden stars i start healing" judging by how everybody is saying its the royal remains armor providing regen, this says alot about how bad elden stars us
I realllllyyyy wish they had a lighting arrow faith spell like from DS3. That was my favorite spell in the whole game.
the guy that you were curious about cheating or not but was suspect of his health not being maxed may have been using that one talisman that reduces FP cost at the cost of a chunk of health taking away several hundred HP but still leaving him at over 2k.
I have an idea that's not really related to this video but wouldn't buffing "Resistances" (I.E. the thing that's supposed to negate status effects) by having them reduce the effect; as in having higher Robustness reduces the health loss when it procs and of course tune down Hemorrhage so it's still a good threat against builds that trade survivability for damage and not the absolute dread that it is....maybe?
I’m pretty sure the level cap only works for invasions and You can still summon/ be summoned by higher players for duels.
I’ve been in a few duels where guys were impossibly strong
Also the Royal remains armour has passive heal
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I SHOULD HAVE PUT MY SIGN DOWN DAMN!
I fought HEAT, in the exact same place, where that sign is exactly. It was even around the time would have been recording this. Sad I missed you by *that* much.
Also HEAT, if you read this. I was the Shadow Queen. Yes I am a nerd. Two whips was fucking hilarious, but I really didn't know what to do while I was using the zweihander.
Edit: 3:20. I saw that guy too! I didn't fight him though as I saw the two katanas and blurred out name and said "nope"
I actually main an Int/Fai death build, and Explosive ghostflame is actually quite good as a finisher. The AOE explosion is very large and it does around 750 damage for me at around 55/55 int/fai. Additionally, it cant be rolled through!
Also, the skeletons can't hit a moving target, but due to their range you can use it to punish people casting elden stars or frenzied flame burst.
But as you found, Ancient death rancor is the best death spell out of all of them. I haven't really tried Fia's mist in pvp, but I know it is a useful zoning/disengage
The Elden Ring version of that meme with Moon Knight chucking his entire arsenal while saying “Random bullshit, go!”
Glad to see someone use this in pvp, I did the whole death socerery thing in the story and didn't dare take it into pvp, fia's mist was something I wanted to try, as it only works in pvp / tarnished.
I’ve honestly find Int/Faith not to be that hard. Your melee is very limited of course, but you can easily make up for that in Golden Order Seal and Death Prince Staff both having pretty nice Spell Scaling on them with the right stats. Talismans that buff spells are also always on the table. As for my final note, I’ve found that the Gelmir Glintstone Staff is actually a bit better than Staff of The Death Prince around the 40/40 Int/Faith Range. Hope this helped anyone who reads this wanting to try Int/Faith
Have you tried the Triple Rings of Light spell? Its fairly fast, covers a wide area and is very good at zoning opponents because it goes out and back to you like a boomerang. The damage isn't the highest but its enough to make opponents have to stay at a distance or roll away. It stops a lot of pressure because of the boomerang effect they can't pressure you because the rings will hit them in the back.
The royal remains outfit gives you Hp regen when your Hp is low the more you wear the better it is.
OH NO, I was curious about int/fth spells while starting my new character, though they still seems possibly fun. I’ve more slack going a little over meta for invasions, so I was trying to lower the int and get an arc catalyst for Fia’s mist and madness/bleed incantations (silver tear mask and Marika’s helping a little), and adding weapons/infusions, but idk. Since death resistance seemed low I was curious for this unusual theme, but it’s so gimmicky. Shame the deathblight weapon needs so much dex too. I’ll make the build fun somehow
Would love to see you show off the Giant's Red Braid alongside mostly fire spells. Granted it's mostly gonna be Catch Flame but I think the whip has one of the coolest WA's out there.
regards to the "why can't i drink" you can't really queue combined inputs from rolling (y+rb, y+dpad) learned this the hard way trying to 2hand for bloodhound step when i had to roll from a gonker 3v1.
At 50/50 FTH/INT the Gelmir Glintstone staff has about equal damage although without the boost to death spells. After that is where prince of death overtakes it.
If you use 3 to 4 pieces of the crucible armor it buffs crucible incantations by quite a bit. My tail does around 800 something damage.
I love these so much. I only dabble in pvp these days but I still learn a lot.
For the guy who cast a million things but low health, I think there is a talisman that lowers fp cost but reduces health. From what I remember its not that much reduction so maybe they are just cheating
I tested out using Elden Stars on a halberd faith build. It was basically something I used when they over spaced and then while they panicked, I'd rush them down. It was honestly working really well.
You can do 70 int/50 faith and the mixed scaling casting items will still have the same scaling as 60/60 while being able to cast any spell.
Also, the healing comes from your armor: the royal remains pieces all give regen when below about 25% or so HP. It seems like you get regen from elden stars because you tend to take damage when you try to cast it xD
Wait so the numbers just even out then?
The guy "Kenzen" at 16:00 wasnt using lusats staff he was using prince of deaths staff, he was 100% cheating
Very cool build! Interested to see what other combos you can create with so much versatility.
Kudos for winning to the double sepuku naginata build. Anyone that tries that hard deserves to lose and you can’t change my mind
3:36 - the 'ole faith/int death turn & burn, A.K.A, the Catch Flame Bait Build
Can’t you just send the guy home if he is cheating? I thought devs allowed to disconnect when you summon through red signs.
Yes every player gets a finger severer you can use it to send a summon back.
I'm surprised that you don't use the triple rings spell. I think it might count as a fundamentalist spell (most of the faith/int spells). It also can cover you quite well because not only do they go out, but they come back which could give you some extra time to cast even more spells. If I am right about them being fundamentalist I think you then would get a buff based on your seal.
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Fair point, but at the same time without bloodhound step there wouldn't be much of a way to avoid builds like the type of build you're using in this video. It's fairly annoying yes but with certain things it's more necessary than regular rolls.
for the dude that you thought was cheating, he MAY have been using the winged crystal tear which multiplies your equip load max by 4.5 with a int/faith build
he was not, it has a distinct effect
Try the albinauric staff. It scales off of arcane so you can use it with the dragon communion seal
I tried to make a carian spell sorc build with earth spells, and it was fun, but yes using the right cast tool just breaks your brain sometimes in the middle of combat.
I’m pretty sure rykard’s sorcery is int/faith as well. It seems like it’d be cool to make people panic.
Tried the same build. You are 1000% correct. The death spells suck and need a huge buff. I've found I get 90% of all my kills with catch flame and Bestial Sling. I would've kept the sword of night and flame on the offhand. It's a good melee weapon for that build. Wrath of Gold is good too. Good damage and comes off fast and can be charged for mixup. Also the breath and the horns are better crucible spell imo
The healing comes from that armor set you have on. It kicks in when health is low
My main PvE/Fuckaround build is Int/Faith (although I'm closer to lvl 200) and the option to use lots of incantations AND sorceries is very fun
Elden Stars is pretty meh for PvE but when I did the invasions you have to for the one dudes quest it's pretty fun. Guaranteed way to make someone run away
INT/FTH seems like it's better for invasions than duels. Stuff like Radagon's Rings of Light are more about attacking groups than single characters, and most of the death spells also work better for AoEs rather than single targets. I'm currently setting up this build to invade myself, mostly to have fun.
I made a Quan chi cosplay and used only the death spells... let's just say, it did not go well.
Scott, do you think it's fair for people to heal after using seppuku? I think you should be allowed to heal yourself if a seppuku user does.
Doesnt matter, you get one shot
@@drachenklnd True lol
I've used Dragonmaw to GREAT effect in invasions because of the hyperarmor it gives. It's really good at punishing running R1 poke from thrusting swords and spears. I've done 1200 dmg using the dragon communion seal +10 @ 40 faith/40 arcane. IDK effectiveness in duels but it is fun to throw out every now and then to mix things up when they think you're going for a breath attack.
Rykard's Rancor is actually very underrated in pvp. You can cast it and follow its tail and roll past the enemy they will get hit by the multiple blasts and take massive dmg.
I wish in these games they'd build in some deliberately overleveled OP spells, like a spell that requires 70 int + 70 faith and is obviously better than every other spell.
I've been only utilizing bloodhound step on a light weapon like a whip in a secondary slot, for 1 to get away from fat aoes/unavoidable like ruin of stars. Also, if you have a dupe weapon with a quick attack w/a or shout, you can use a mix up mid series of dashes on a weapon swap for extra style, and a confusing experience for your foe lol.
I'd love to see you use the Raptor in the Mist art of war, its so dope.
Imo slicer is the better option than catch flame if you're running both cause slicer has slightly more range on it, and even with the death staff its better to run stars of ruin than death rancor. Also why no upgraded rot breath?
I wonder if it might be better to go albanuric staff and dragon seal, meet min req for the spells you want, then just use arcane to cast... isn't the arcane Scaling cap only like 45?
The thing about the Prince of death staff is that you don't actually have to use it to cast the incantation to get the bonus for death spells. Just hold it in your off hand and use it actually good staff.
Except he has to hold a seal in his other hand
@@mysterymaster180 you know you could hit left or right to cycle through weapons, right?
@@Jadeviper00 right.. so let me just have to constantly switch weapons EVERY time I want to cast a specific type of sorcery while I'm already fumbling between juggling incants with L1 and sorceries with R1 in a quick pace fight..
@@Jadeviper00 you're just creating more opportunities for you to make mistakes and for your opponent's to capitalise on.
@@mysterymaster180 You're right, it would require a little bit of skill so you should probably not try this.
Int+faith is mostly good for PVE and Coop for the buffs. But spells are kind of a bit easier to i-frame. I tried the discus as well, they don't deal much damage.
What if you used Albinuric staff(Primarily Arcane scaling) Dragon communion seal(Primarily Arcane scaling) and only raised your int/faith enough to qualify for the spells you want to use?