Of course she loved her, Maci was a damn catch. But then again, if she had really loved her, she would have told her to run and find a man that treats her with decency, which wasn't her son.
@@kimg2692 yea..Mackenzie does not want Maci to have a relationship with Ryan's parents so she is constantly stirring the pot..she is a snake in the grass
@@taradactule6052 yea I know Mackenzie is trash. That stupid letter she wrote claiming she didn't know he was on drugs n blamed Macy and everything else she does. Doesn't she have an older son she don't have custody of ??
Like Maci said once: "You can be the sweetest peach in the world and theres still gonna be someone who doesnt like peaches" And she said this to Taylor.
Same! But karmas a bitch now they’re both drug addicts(unfortunately) in & out of jail and the ladies are living real life fairy tales w amazing men who are even better step fathers. Everything happens for a reason, everyone got what they deserved that’s for sure
He wanted to keep control of her but never wanted to actually be with her. Him picking up from her mom's house is not a big deal at all, but he tried to make it out to be such an inconvenience. Because he knew he couldn't manipulate her if she wasn't around.
Did we all watch the same show? She didnt have to change a thing. He did . Than he had an idea for 3 days here 3 days there what not. She didnt support it at all. I'd be an addict to if I had to deal with her. He could have done his best and she would of picked whatev flaw she could and on reality television. Wow sorry but hell
@@davewoolman1424 "I'd be an addict to" yeah that disenfranchises your entire argument. I'm all for equal parenting privileges for the father but I'm sorry, if you're an addict and not making accommodations to let your coparent know that there's going to be his new girlfriend around the child, and being all around immature when handing off the child to the kid, you're not a good coparent. Gtfo.
@@ang_isnotcool liked your comment- wasn't going to respond until I read gtfo. You're right- I need to rephrase- I'd be an addict - to- I'd probably turn to drugs to ,as an escape if had to deal with Macy. Please start the video from time 6:50- Ryan- you can move from here to wherever you wanna go. Macy- What are you talking about? Also Macy- Ryan- Do you plan on moving? Macy- yeah* Next scene. Guy in Macy's car. If I understood you correctly- let's hope she had introduced him to Ryan immediately- he's going to be around Bently right? And I find it immature to constantly ask-(coming from Maci)"What are you talking about?" all the time when duh you know what's going on.
This is so true, he needs to be grateful for that. Because they’re a lot of baby momma’s out there that would do the complete opposite as to what Maci’s done. Maci has given Ryan chance after chance, and is still giving him chances to prove that he can be there for their son.
Absolutely, and to have Mackenzie now even though he is horrible to that poor woman. I remember her saying she was scared for him to get out of jail because he wouldnt like her anymore and leave her and then she was scared he wouldnt like her after gaining pregnancy weight and struggling to get it off.... my heart just breaks for her. Like girl you go get you a man that loves you unconditionally 😭
Honestly, Maci was raised right. Even when she first became a mum, she was so mature, respectfuland a great mother. Despite her issues with Ryan, she doesn't bad mouth him to Bentley to make Bentley resent his father. That's so important when co-parenting with someone who you're not with anymore.
@noname-4u Its def is a terrible thing. Your comment was a long time ago, but I just recently saw that he completely TRASHED his & his wife's house! Like I mean trashed the entire thing & wrote crazy paragraphs on the walls. Destroyed his kids toys & belongings to. He's really gone to a dark place now. Check that out if you haven't yet! It's very sad for everyone.
@anthonyhenderson3625 My favorites are Tyler & Taylor but the rest on the list have done a great job too. Cory finally got out of his player stage..always new he was a good guy.
MizzLizzyLiz I totally agree! She did it so that in case they were to badmouth someone in their kids lives, the kids don’t change their opinion on that person. Like just because I can’t stand your dad that doesn’t mean you can
She was meant to be with Taylor what a great guy I have a Taylor of my own!! Ryan made his choices!! Jen and Larry may have over done it but always meant well!!
Honestly he sounds like a teenager who is asked to babysit his little brother while moms away. Like, he talks and acts like a little kid even as an adult
Maci and Chelsea are my favorites! They both realized their self worth and walked away from toxic relationships. They were still mature and did their best to coparent without being the least bit petty, given the men they were dealing with. Two strong, badass women!!
I love them both but sadly Chelsea never left adam, he was done with her and she had to move on! I’m grateful she did but it’s sad she never put herself first enough to leave him and see her self worth.
@@alisonmcgann4009 Either way, she's not with him.... sometimes you have to let that person strip the relationship, you don't have to be the one to do it. She ultimately worked on herself and married someone that treats her well, doesn't really matter how she got there as long as she did.
He abused that by not having the balls to step up and not want to be a father, even if he didn't want to be with Maci. All he's ever cared about was putting himself and what he likes doing first. And also to top it off is that his parents brought him up to be a selfless dead beat of a father. They're are the ones that spoiled his butt and they probably always will. I'm so happy and proud to see that Maci was extremely mature for her age whenever she gotten pregnant and also throughout the tough times whenever all she wanted was for him to grow up and be a father to their son, but nope he didn't want that. Again he's all grown up and he's still being a jerk and it's all a front in front of the cameras. So I'm really happy that Maci has an amazing husband now that truly loves her and both children. Ryan will never grow up until everyone stop enabling him and supporting him. They all need to cut ties with him and stop all ties until he grows up and gets off drugs. I truly feel sorry for their son (Marci &Ryan's) because he's never going to know his biological father being a real father/daddy to him. And is his wife on drugs as well? Because what woman will stay with an drug addict and also why in the hell would she want a man like Ryan that doesn't want anything to do with his first born child? That's why i don't really Respect her eitherr. I don't like him and never did. I always thought she (Maci) could do so much better than him. But we all live and learn. Ryan just might regret everything one day in the future whenever he's all alone and don't have anyone there, by his side, but that's on him. Maci gave him way to many chances, more chances than i ever would have for Any Man. I spoke a little to soon because i feel bad for his parents in a way but still they are the ones that spolied the shit out of him. Ryan shouldn't have put anyone through what's he's done. And also what he put Maci through and especially his own son whenever he was with her, and even now. Drugs will take over your life and you become the devil himself instead of doing what's right. I pray that Ryan gets his crap/life together and evenually become a real man, son to his parents, and a father to his Maci's son Bentley and his other one.
@@chasitydickens6155 I think his dad puts up with him out of love for his wife. Ryan's mother babies him...it's very similar to the dynamic in my ex's family. I understand that Ryan has an addiction, but there's still some personal, individual accountability that needs to be taken on his part.
Maci puts her son first EVERY TIME!!!! She even told MTV “if Farrah is still gonna be on this show my son will not!” And for the rest of the time Farrah was on Bentley wasn’t filmed. When she was fired, Bentley started getting filmed again. She does not play when it comes to Bentley and that’s exactly how every mother should be.
maci’s communication skills are what i wish i had, she was so mature and such a good mother at her age. she deserves so much better then ryan’s lame ass😒
That's a self esteem and trust thing. I have issues with eye contact and it has nothing to do with drugs... People always assume and don't know shit.. Job interviews and regular conversations with people I do without eye contact. Nothing to do with drugs he has some awkwardness around her.
@@babygfeva You sound very certain, which is odd considering he ended up in jail for his heroin addiction. That tells you he’s had an issue with drugs for many years because people don’t have such a hard drug as their start-up drug. Either way it’s very tragic.
Boys get mad, men want a strong woman wo they feel they can rely on when shit gets rough. My father taught me that a strong woman will make you a better man and you as a man have to be strong to make her a better woman. That is why a responsible guy will take his repsonsibilties seriously and be there for his wife and kids. Ryan never grew up, he talks, walks and acts like a teenager. I am 21 years old and l find it weird how he didn't grow up, like he has been like this for a decade.
"do you think you bring more joy to my life, or more trouble?" Such a great question to ask your partner (and yourself) she is and has always been extremely mindful of what her worth is, I love and admire her strength and maturity..
Multiple reasons Ryan's parents wanted time w bent, and Ryan's new gf came around saw he was a deadbeat so that put pressure on him to change. Ryan Is a special breed of piece of shit
I respect the hell out of Maci. She’s always communicated assertively (not everyone can do this well), set clear boundaries, actually followed through with what she said she was going to do, and known her DAMN WORTH. Love it.
every teen mom gal: "I feel like we have some stuff we need to work through :( " every teen mom guy ever: 'I don't get it.... I just.... wow you're like psycho.."
@@miah9259 Nah, that’s too easy. I mean you don’t see Maci behave that way and she was also a teen. The guys are emotionally immature (the only one I remember having it more together was the Tayler guy who had to give up his daughter for adoption). But this is running deeper than it being a guy teen problem, after all he (Ryan) ended up in jail as an adult for doing heroin. Whatever he is running from took place way before his teen years.
I always felt that he has always been in love with her and that’s why he went off the rails because he lost her. He seemed to treat her worse when ever she got into a new relationship. He was bitter
Jesus I remember watching this show when I was 16 and I'm almost 30 now. Just seeing the years go by on this video and seeing Bentley turning into a preteen just brings home how much time is going by. I'm old lol
Ryan's parents are lucky macys been so generous with them. They ruined Ryan by spoiling and enabling him. The second I saw my kid behaving differently coming home from their house... That would be it. They'd be seeing him for a couple hours on Sundays once a week with their mom supervising just like most grandparents get.
gold dust woman exactly but kinda like my situation growing up my dad wasn’t there but my whole dads side has always been there for me they tried making him grow up but my dad just couldn’t be a man for his kids
Thry are good people and love Bentley. They associate $ with love. Its hard to change that but u can't deny they love that boy. With so many grandparents out there that cant be bothered its nice to see that they want the relationship. They make up for Ryans shortcomings. Any parent that denies their child a relationship with grandparents because they spoil them is using the child as a PAWN. HURTING ONLY THE CHILD. parents are the disciplinarians not grandparents we raised ours. We are there simply to love.
@@Rollimggiant grandparents still have a responsibility to respect the boundaries and morals that the parents set for their child and do occasionally need to discipline or they're just showing the kid that they don't need to listen to mom and dad. If the grandparents decide to just ignore that in favor of rules-free spoiling then no, they shouldn't be around the kid unsupervised. So many grandparents I've seen view it as their "right" to "ruin" the kid because they spent their time raising the parent (seriously, that's how I hear it phrased by the grandparents. I can't make this sh- up). obviously there are great grandparents who still spoil the kids while respecting the parents but treating grandparentship as an entitlement is a HUGE red flag.
I remember When i first saw this show i was crushing on ryan but after seeing how he treated maci and how he is so irresponsible. he became unattractive.
Ryan use to be so good looking, he just looks so wore out and tired Now. Like boy chill TF out take a nap and please just Be The Best Dad To Bentley for Christ sake.
You didn't have the scene when Ryan said "honestly, if we didnt have a kid, we wouldn't be together". My heart broke for her when I saw that. She's come a long way.
Yeah, that was definitely a scene that was so gut-wrenching. Another scene that was absolutely devastating was when Adam called Chelsea a “fat stretch-mark b*tch.” I couldn’t imagine the heartbreak and the psychological toll it took on her, when she read that text message. Especially when you factor in that she had just given birth to Aurbs just a few months earlier - and naturally, you’re already dealing with hormones, getting adjusted to your new body, becoming a new mom, etc - and I wouldn’t be surprised if she was dealing with PPD during that time in her life too.
My favourite. She started it all. The first girl we ever met and her story of getting pregnant was everyone’s worse fear; getting pregnant your first time. And she handled everything like such a grown woman. Even with her relationships she never let them change how she raised Bentley and he is just the most precious little man. His mothers child
Maci is my favorite! At 16 years old she was handling and walking through life like a 37 year old mom of 5 kids! Maci is a complete powerhouse of a mom, wife and person in general! The level of maturity she showed at only 16 years old baffled me, and it made me think...she was definitely here before!
I don’t think so she very controlling yes Ryan needs help but she can’t make that little boy stop loving his dad and his parents love Bentley she can’t take that away
Nae Si I would disagree with you on that... Yes, she was strict with the boundaries she set, but that order and structure is what she needed to be an effective parent. And even within those limits she was much more giving then most parents would be in that situation. Like she could have probably pushed for Ryan to only be able to see Bentley at a visitation center or even to have his rights as a father taken away. She had grounds for it given that Ryan was/is an addict, went to jail and even threatened Taylor’s life. Instead she kept trying to work with him and his family because she knew that having some relationship with his biological father and grandparents would help Bentley in the long run.
She has tried so hard for years for him to be a father for Bentley and he has never been able to do that, never. And she's giving him opportunity after opportunity, maybe he'll never do it but at least Bentley will grow up and see how much her mother tried to make a good environment for him and she was so mature, she has done so much for her son.
This just breaks my heart when she is literally crying right in front of him and Bentley is reaching for Ryan...I felt that. It really was killing her to know that was the end.
It was the saddest moment ever when maci Taylor and Ryan parents were having dinner and they all started crying. So frustrated to have such an amazing grandparents and bad dad. Love Ryan parents
And you can kind of see where Ryan’s emotional constipation comes from cause when his dad is crying, you can see a man that never let himself cry or be vulnerable and therefore was never able to teach his son that. Sad
i mean they’re super enabling to ryan but they’re rlly good with bentley except trying to force him to have a relationship with his dad when it makes him uncomfortable
Ryan "do you have any homework" *finds homework* Ryan "do it at your mums" Why ask if you are not going to bother supporting him through his education?
❤️ The way she handled that conversation at 7:59 was so boss. Straightforward, polite and didn’t take the bait he tried to give her. She has always been my favorite.
I hate to say it but as a person who's been clean and sober for 13 years, Ryan is never going to be able to stay clean until he starts taking full responsibility for his actions and not blaming everything on other people.. And that's never going to happen until his parents start holding him accountable. Who knows what that MacKenzie's doing, But I do know that his parents, especially his mother, have continued to let him get away with acting like an entitled teenager, and blaming all his self made problems on other people. Until Ryan gets some real focused help, not just for the addiction, but for his behavioral issues and until he has to actually deal with consequences instead of constantly being bailed out and pandered to by his mom and to a lesser extent his dad, He's going to continue to have the same brand of self destructive narcissism that has messed up his life so far.
First of all, congratulations to you! After I read “sober for 13 years” I dropped the phone and started clapping and it brought tears to my eyes. I am super happy and proud and don’t even know you. Congrats 🍾🎉🎊🎈2nd of all, I couldn’t agree with you more. The beginning of the clip where Maci poured her heart out about how it pains her that Ryan doesn’t acknowledge their son baffled me that his response was in reverse psychology telling Maci she’s never happy. His narcissism showed right there. I truly wanted them to make it but SO glad she dodged that bullet.
Maci was always my favorite, she didn't take shit from anyone, she expected adults to behave like adults, she was great with her kids, she was never disrespectful, amazing
Ryan will lose this year hunting now he will go to court this year and go to jail 900,000 likes and the mom no one this year MACI 900,000 likes and she keeps she keeps her son and that the dad then dad's going to jail and the mom is it watch it next Tuesday
Since she came on teen mom I’ve always loved her. Bentley is like 15 now, and she still seems to be an amazing human/mom. I hope she decides to share her life as reassurance that some people don’t suck.
Notice how all of the women in these shows actually try to talk and have relationships with the men and they want the guys to see their kids. The guys just flip out when they try to talk and call them crazy it is kind of humorous
I've always thought Maci was amazing. Not only is she a supermom, but she's just an amazing girl and wife. She's a lady - even with tattoos. lol She's a guy's girl, kind of a tomboy, and I can really relate to that. She's been great to Ryan, even when he doesn't deserve it. He should be thanking the Lord she's the mother of his son. She's shown him how a real parent should be. And despite their flaws, I love Jen and Larry. Clearly there is damage there, but every family has it's dynamic. Some aren't as rose-filled, but you just keep walking, Larry. Keep putting one foot in front of the other. Taylor is a great catch, Maci. What a GOOD man!!
I more so interpreted her sentence to mean that Maci has a sweet and feminine spirit about her - and can still be looked at as a feminine woman - despite being heavily tattooed, someone who likes sports, who is a tom boy, etc. More often that not, some people have this distorted perception that a heavily tattooed woman makes a woman less dainty or less feminine or less delicate, and she was trying to dispel that negative stereotype, and express that she doesn’t feel that way about Maci, despite the tattoos. The Original Commenter wasn’t intending to be rude or disparaging at all.
I cried when I saw Ryan’s parents talking to Maci and crying with emotion. They love her so much, It’s so sad about Ryan. I really hope he gets better. He has such amazing people in his life. Maci is such a mature woman. I love her.
Maci is so calm I don't know how shes stayed calm through all of the bs. Especially when Bentley was a baby and they were still together. Ryan treated her like crap. Glad she learned her worth
They have good hearts but they have set their son of for literal failure. It's ridiculous. He has never been accountable and as "cute" as they are, it is their own grandkids that suffer just because they couldn't have a backbone with ryan
The more I look at this the more I am so proud of her. I always felt like Ryan's parents felt like she should've felt privileged to be with him due to their status. And now she is doing a great job raising their grandson on her own with her new husband and business partner doing extremely well. Love it! She was always my favorite original! Even when I stopped looking at the show.
@@sharnashields7118 I dont look at the show consistently anymore but as far as I know. She is still with her husband doing well. Ryan I have no idea! But maybe a more devoted fan can answer your question after viewing it.
@@5proudmomof - 😂 Lol. No, Sharna wasn’t asking you what was Maci’s status as in her actual relationship status. I think she was asking you what you meant when you wrote “I always felt like Ryan’s parents felt like she should’ve felt privileged to be with him due to their status”. I was confused by that sentence too. Were you saying that because Ryan came from an affluent, wholesome family (a two parent household, that was upper middle class), Maci should have felt privileged by that? If so, that makes sense. (A lot of people have that mentally - they like to keep up appearances, as if everything is perfect, when behind close doors their life is in shambles.) Jen and Larry definitely fit that mold.
@@sabrina.natalie yes that's what I meant. I always felt like they were pompous and looked down on Maci at the beginning. It's amazing how the tables have turn.
I still believe that Maci’s story made the show. At one point everyone hoped her and Ryan could work it out. And Bentley is all of our baby! Haha But honestly, I believe Ryan knew/knows that he messed up big time when it comes to having a life with Maci and Bentley. Even throughout everything they’ve been through, I still believe he loves Maci. She’s the one who got away, for him. This show never would have made it without Maci, Ryan and Bentley tho, I’ll stand on that. Lol
Agree but Catelynn and Tyler was also a big part of it. I really applaud them for sticking together after they gave Carly away and are still together, even with the many hurdles they had to overcome.
I think Ryan acted like such a jerk to Maci because he thought she’d always need him and couldn’t live without him. When he saw her move on, get married, and live a happy successful life, he went downhill real fast. He realized what a great girl he lost, and he saw the great life he could have had if he’d treated her right. Same thing with Adam and Chelsea.
Addiction often comes from deep rooted trauma. In the reunion when he was crying, his mom told him to “stop that” instead of validating him or ask him what he was thinking. He finally opened up and his mom shut it down and didn’t want to acknowledge his emotions. His father yelling at him at games like that - often kids learn to shut up and to shut down when they are being yelled at like that. Kids feel like they don’t have control, they aren’t good enough, something is wrong with them etc. I would shut down my emotions too and learn not to speak up if my dad freaked out like that... especially in public. His dad has bad communication with Ryan and so does his mother. His father said that “I had to say some hateful things” “I wanted to hurt him” I mean like come on... you need to set boundaries but you don’t NEED to say hateful things to other people or want to hurt them. His parents had very angry and suppressed emotional communication with him. Also, he may just also lack empathy for other people. He does have psychopathic tendencies but that was enabled by his parents not wanting him to express emotion or his father yelling to the point where you need to emotionally shut down to get through a youth baseball game.
Yeah there was definitely some abuse going on when he was young, however that does not excuse addiction. Lots of people have a traumatic childhood and grown up fully functional, probably a combination of childhood stress and a weak personality.
J L Those people aren’t him. Can’t compare anybody to him unless they’ve lived his exact life, with his exact genetics, exact environment, exact hardships, etc. And no it isn’t an excuse, it’s an explanation. A valid one. People tend to demonize addicts without trying to understand them first. Understanding doesn’t mean enabling. It’s a way of finding compassion
Nu Mindframe Tarot I completely agree. You explained it beautifully. Once people understand trauma more... they can see the red flags and try to prevent it from happening to others. Hopefully, we can all show some love and compassion and try to intervene abuse at a younger age so we as a society can decrease depression, anxiety, antisocial personality tendencies, shame, hate, and addiction.
I really respected Maci and the way she handled everything. She came from a good family and knew she needed more in a relationship then the infatuation of being in love. She wanted a good father and no matter what worked with Ryan to have him in Bentleys life. Respect 💕
It's crazy to think about what kind of life Maci and Bentley would have now if she stayed with Ryan for the kid like a lot of women do. I'm so glad she was smart.
Ryan’s parents enable him still. Ryan’s wife wants to be Maci so badly and she can’t be. Maci you are an angel. Kuddos to you and how you said Ryan’s snake of a wife I busted out laughing because we all know Maci is right
She had soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch patience with hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiim!!!!!! Wow! She was raising a kid to be a parent! Lol! Kids wear condoms !
Ryan needs help 900,000 likes next Tuesday on teen mom Ryan will lose 900,000 likes and the mom keep Bentley ryan Will stay in jail for a long time and the mom will win in court 900,000 likes
Why did she let Ryan near her son then she should have went to court and filed for full custody of Bentley poor boy he loved Ryan but Ryan didn’t care about nobody but himself he should be in jail for good every woman he gets with will be like Maci leave Ryan file for full custody
One I can say is Maci is very mature and humble for her age. She how her and her son should be treated and didn’t depend on her bd for a lot. She actually handled her business. I hope Ryan eventually gets his life together for the sake of bentley.
What's the status with Ryan now. I feel for his parents but they created a monster. I am the child of one of those spoiled monsters that got everything and my nana just died 3 days ago with me being the only person by her side. When you raise children like Ryan it will haunt you for life. And from my personal experience people like that don't change. I think Bentley will grow to be like me... 33 years old wanting nothing to do with my parent who acts like a child. I haven't seen or spoken to my mother in 7 years. They think kids won't grow up to realize their toxicity but we certainly do. No matter how young, they're watching.
nylotus - Last I heard, he was still struggling with sobriety. He was addicted to Heroin at one point (allegedly), and had spent some time in jail. He married a woman by the name of Mackenzie Standifer back in 2017 - they recently welcomed a daughter together by the name of Stella. On his wedding day, he was high as a kite. He was driving under the influence and nearly falling asleep at the wheel, and Mackenzie reached over and turned the MTV car cameras off. After the cameras are turned off, she asked: “Did you take a Xanax.” And he says: “No. I put that on my kids life”. You can watch the full video here: streamable.com/mfjt1 The entire thing was extremely unsettling and disturbing to watch. You should check out the entire episode, it’s heartbreaking. I’m sorry to hear about your nana. I pray that you are healing and find peace in knowing she is in Heaven. I’m sending lots of love, light, and hugs your way.
@@sabrina.natalie Thank you so much for your kind words. She's 95, loved Jesus, and had the biggest heart. I miss her so much. You are absolutely right... and I do find comfort in knowing she's in heaven. Her father was a soldier in World War I and she always talked about how much she misses her Papa. Now she's with him. 💙 My mother's selfishness has still continued even after the death of my nana. She took the money my nana left for her funeral and now I'm left paying for everything. My mother's drug is money. She will do anything, cheat anyone, steal, lie, whatever to get money. Anything but work. She's pathetic! I feel bad for Bentley because I know what he'll have to deal with in the years to come. Like I said... people like that just don't change.
Problem is his parents have treated him like a baby just like Taylor said they have done to him like they have for 30 years, They make maci seem like the monster but unfortunately things will not change until jen and larry admit that their son is the problem, If I were his parents I would have given up on him a while ago
Maci’s calmness and maturity have always astounded me. She was here before for sure. I would have beat the brakes off Ryan a long time ago.
Ry 😭😂😂😂
Ry it’s all the Virgo in her birth chart. They always keep their cool😂
Ry it’s all the Virgo in her birth chart. They always keep their cool😂
Same
@@numindframetarot6046 they're the meanest zodiac sign they literally bully others for no reason
You can see in Ryan’s mother’s eyes how much she loved/loves Maci. Ryan sure did eff up a good thing.
Brooke Lynn yeah ikr? Instead hes got a wife now who is using him..
Of course she loved her, Maci was a damn catch. But then again, if she had really loved her, she would have told her to run and find a man that treats her with decency, which wasn't her son.
Yes she did but now she treat Macy differently because of Mackenzie and Ryan.
@@kimg2692 yea..Mackenzie does not want Maci to have a relationship with Ryan's parents so she is constantly stirring the pot..she is a snake in the grass
@@taradactule6052 yea I know Mackenzie is trash. That stupid letter she wrote claiming she didn't know he was on drugs n blamed Macy and everything else she does. Doesn't she have an older son she don't have custody of ??
Like Maci said once:
"You can be the sweetest peach in the world and theres still gonna be someone who doesnt like peaches"
And she said this to Taylor.
she was quoting Ditta Von Teese
@@jayaitch88 oh right! Lol
I read that in maci's southern voice lol
@@rachelyea5915 me too 😂
@@rachelyea5915 me too lmao
Nobody can break my heart as much as Ryan and Adam did when they treated Chelsea and Maci like they wasn’t shit
torii coleman omg Adam was the worst.
Both of them treated amazing women badly and now both of those men are doing horrible and look like crap. Karma is a bitch LOL.
torii coleman those two guys , man they are identical
Same! But karmas a bitch now they’re both drug addicts(unfortunately) in & out of jail and the ladies are living real life fairy tales w amazing men who are even better step fathers. Everything happens for a reason, everyone got what they deserved that’s for sure
@@chanparislynn9631 last I checked they was doing better I hope so
So glad Maci removed herself from him and got the family and life she deserves
I hope her and Taylor don't part ways
@@anthonyhenderson8371 Me neither🙁
And they got a business if she had stayed with Ryan she would be miserable as hell I’m happy she got away from Ryan
Her decision to pick up her son from each other’s parents houses was a smart move, and she didn’t want him to see fighting and I really respected it
emily sayphrarath she’s an amazing mother for sure, from a young age
Right and the way she kept dismissing Ryan when he wanted to argue was too funny
Same!
He wanted to keep control of her but never wanted to actually be with her. Him picking up from her mom's house is not a big deal at all, but he tried to make it out to be such an inconvenience. Because he knew he couldn't manipulate her if she wasn't around.
@@DizzyedUpGirl 100% AGREE
She shut his ass down when he tried to argue about picking up Bentley at the parents' house. Didn't even entertain fighting him. Nicely done
That’s how to drain a narcissist.
Did we all watch the same show? She didnt have to change a thing. He did . Than he had an idea for 3 days here 3 days there what not. She didnt support it at all. I'd be an addict to if I had to deal with her. He could have done his best and she would of picked whatev flaw she could and on reality television. Wow sorry but hell
@@davewoolman1424 "I'd be an addict to" yeah that disenfranchises your entire argument. I'm all for equal parenting privileges for the father but I'm sorry, if you're an addict and not making accommodations to let your coparent know that there's going to be his new girlfriend around the child, and being all around immature when handing off the child to the kid, you're not a good coparent. Gtfo.
@@ang_isnotcool liked your comment- wasn't going to respond until I read gtfo. You're right- I need to rephrase- I'd be an addict - to- I'd probably turn to drugs to ,as an escape if had to deal with Macy. Please start the video from time 6:50- Ryan- you can move from here to wherever you wanna go. Macy- What are you talking about? Also Macy- Ryan- Do you plan on moving? Macy- yeah* Next scene. Guy in Macy's car. If I understood you correctly- let's hope she had introduced him to Ryan immediately- he's going to be around Bently right? And I find it immature to constantly ask-(coming from Maci)"What are you talking about?" all the time when duh you know what's going on.
@@ang_isnotcool I think Ryan is way better than me at rephrasing.
Ryan was so handsome at the beginning but then he aged like 20 years in 5
Drugs will do that to you.
he really was😫😍
Drugs.
He literally has almost all grey hair now lol
I thought so too. He looks like a different person.
He lost Maci and aged 20 years 😭😂
Avery Bucchieri drugs bro, they do that to you 😂
and that’s called Karma🤣
Yeahhhh!!!
He has gray hair and everything lol
Ryan lost a really good woman
ryan is the definition of "peaked in high school"
Lmao the best example!! I was just talking to someone about how embarrassing that would be & here it is a live representation lmao
Oh come on...he was pretty fine after highschool as well it’s just the last 4 years that have been rough on him 😩
@@tonyamartin767 i didnt necessarily mean looks. just all around, that was his high point in life lol
honestly.
same as chelsea's ex
The red flag shoulda been Ryan still drinking milk with his dinner....
HAHAHHA I swear I said the exact thing in my mind word for word
😂🤣😂🤣But also the way he drank it
in a wine glass
Ong
Kasy23 😆😆
So sad when she was crying in his face and he could care less
And she like never cries, it was really killing her that's sad 😔
That shit hurts
I felt that.
*Couldn't care less*
Could care less doesn't make sense. But nonetheless, I agree completely.
I think because she knew deep down that was the end and as much as she wanted it to work it was just never going to happen
Ryan should be grateful to have Maci as Bentley’s mother.
Gwendolyn Leah sooo true, Bentleys manners are impeccable
Travis Bourg for sure! Big time loss for him.
This is so true, he needs to be grateful for that. Because they’re a lot of baby momma’s out there that would do the complete opposite as to what Maci’s done. Maci has given Ryan chance after chance, and is still giving him chances to prove that he can be there for their son.
Absolutely, and to have Mackenzie now even though he is horrible to that poor woman. I remember her saying she was scared for him to get out of jail because he wouldnt like her anymore and leave her and then she was scared he wouldnt like her after gaining pregnancy weight and struggling to get it off.... my heart just breaks for her. Like girl you go get you a man that loves you unconditionally 😭
Honestly, Maci was raised right. Even when she first became a mum, she was so mature, respectfuland a great mother. Despite her issues with Ryan, she doesn't bad mouth him to Bentley to make Bentley resent his father. That's so important when co-parenting with someone who you're not with anymore.
Can we all take a moment and just be proud that she left him and found someone WAY better then her ex? Her husband is AMAZING
Facts I love Taylor, Tyler,Corey,Gary, and Cole
Are they still together? Her last hubby?
@noname-4ufacts 👏
@noname-4u Its def is a terrible thing. Your comment was a long time ago, but I just recently saw that he completely TRASHED his & his wife's house! Like I mean trashed the entire thing & wrote crazy paragraphs on the walls. Destroyed his kids toys & belongings to. He's really gone to a dark place now. Check that out if you haven't yet! It's very sad for everyone.
@anthonyhenderson3625 My favorites are Tyler & Taylor but the rest on the list have done a great job too. Cory finally got out of his player stage..always new he was a good guy.
I’m so glad her and Ryan never got married
Sayyyyyy what???
So am I God could you imagine
What? I thought he was married?
Agreed! I'm glad Maci and Ryan didn't get married, either
@@amandagracecentner1542he married someone else and they got divorced and he is with a winner (trash bag Maury girl)
I was honestly soo proud of Maci when she stood up for herself and her son and finally left Ryan.
It makes me respect her frm day 1 her and chelsea gt there priorities straight they put their kids 1st an nt themselves
Cynthia Zavala i honestly never noticed that.. but that is sooo true! now thanks for pointing that out. I was more of a Teen Mom OG fan lol
i’m the 1k 😎
Facts I love southern women they beautiful and nice as hell.
You know you're a good parent when there is an issue between adults and you make the kids leave the room. I have a lot of respect for Maci.
MizzLizzyLiz Agreed, she’s actually an amazing mother and he lost out on an amazing woman and I think he’s starting to see that
MizzLizzyLiz I totally agree! She did it so that in case they were to badmouth someone in their kids lives, the kids don’t change their opinion on that person. Like just because I can’t stand your dad that doesn’t mean you can
I guess suck ..cause sometimes I just can’t…sometimes .
She was meant to be with Taylor what a great guy I have a Taylor of my own!! Ryan made his choices!! Jen and Larry may have over done it but always meant well!!
Maci: “I really just want you to spend more time with your son.” Ryan: “wtf do u want from me Maci damn!”🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Lmao
Klissaura Rodriguez Fr he a dumbass!!!😂😂😂
Honestly he sounds like a teenager who is asked to babysit his little brother while moms away. Like, he talks and acts like a little kid even as an adult
Lol he's so stupid.
Always hated when he did that
Maci and Chelsea are my favorites! They both realized their self worth and walked away from toxic relationships. They were still mature and did their best to coparent without being the least bit petty, given the men they were dealing with. Two strong, badass women!!
same!!!!
I love them both but sadly Chelsea never left adam, he was done with her and she had to move on! I’m grateful she did but it’s sad she never put herself first enough to leave him and see her self worth.
@@alisonmcgann4009 Either way, she's not with him.... sometimes you have to let that person strip the relationship, you don't have to be the one to do it. She ultimately worked on herself and married someone that treats her well, doesn't really matter how she got there as long as she did.
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Yeah, but Farah still is my favorite
Maci has always been wise beyond her years and doesn’t have an OUNCE of petty in her 💛
Tanea Bree soo true! That’s why she’s soo blessed now I’m her family life!
luckily bentley inherited maci's brain and not ryan's. maci and taylor are raising him well
Tanea I wish I could like your comment a million times!
Her momma and dad must be very proud!
Very true.
Maci did everything to let Ryan be a dad
He abused that by not having the balls to step up and not want to be a father, even if he didn't want to be with Maci. All he's ever cared about was putting himself and what he likes doing first. And also to top it off is that his parents brought him up to be a selfless dead beat of a father. They're are the ones that spoiled his butt and they probably always will. I'm so happy and proud to see that Maci was extremely mature for her age whenever she gotten pregnant and also throughout the tough times whenever all she wanted was for him to grow up and be a father to their son, but nope he didn't want that. Again he's all grown up and he's still being a jerk and it's all a front in front of the cameras. So I'm really happy that Maci has an amazing husband now that truly loves her and both children. Ryan will never grow up until everyone stop enabling him and supporting him. They all need to cut ties with him and stop all ties until he grows up and gets off drugs. I truly feel sorry for their son (Marci &Ryan's) because he's never going to know his biological father being a real father/daddy to him. And is his wife on drugs as well? Because what woman will stay with an drug addict and also why in the hell would she want a man like Ryan that doesn't want anything to do with his first born child? That's why i don't really Respect her eitherr. I don't like him and never did. I always thought she (Maci) could do so much better than him. But we all live and learn. Ryan just might regret everything one day in the future whenever he's all alone and don't have anyone there, by his side, but that's on him. Maci gave him way to many chances, more chances than i ever would have for Any Man. I spoke a little to soon because i feel bad for his parents in a way but still they are the ones that spolied the shit out of him. Ryan shouldn't have put anyone through what's he's done. And also what he put Maci through and especially his own son whenever he was with her, and even now. Drugs will take over your life and you become the devil himself instead of doing what's right. I pray that Ryan gets his crap/life together and evenually become a real man, son to his parents, and a father to his Maci's son Bentley and his other one.
@@chasitydickens6155 I think his dad puts up with him out of love for his wife. Ryan's mother babies him...it's very similar to the dynamic in my ex's family. I understand that Ryan has an addiction, but there's still some personal, individual accountability that needs to be taken on his part.
Oh sure she did. We just watched her tell Ryan that he couldn’t have half the time with Bentley because it wasn’t good for him which is just stupid.
@@boomds5602 yeah because if a kid is jumping around too much that doesn’t give children stability
10000000%
Maci puts her son first EVERY TIME!!!! She even told MTV “if Farrah is still gonna be on this show my son will not!” And for the rest of the time Farrah was on Bentley wasn’t filmed. When she was fired, Bentley started getting filmed again. She does not play when it comes to Bentley and that’s exactly how every mother should be.
She married a guy who will help take care of the kids
lol Bentley started filming the season after that, when Farrah was still on lmao
maci’s communication skills are what i wish i had, she was so mature and such a good mother at her age. she deserves so much better then ryan’s lame ass😒
Ryan's parents adored her I know they were hurt when she left him
Of course they adored her, she put up with their immature, reckless, emotionally unavailable son.
Ryan’s behavior is the result of his traumas
La pieuvre Venale or the result of his privilege
Hu Ssa bingo
Hu Ssa maybe only him and his parents know that
He missed out on an amazing woman.
Amanda he didn’t deserve her anyways
Carissa Hall most definitely. She got someone much better. I hope Ryan realizes.
The girl that gotta way
He still loves her. You can totally tell.
I'm so glad she got away from him.
Anyone else notice Ryan has a hard time even looking at Maci
He's like that with alot of people..probably to hide his druggy eyes.
When one is on drugs one has lots of shame
Even more if one has not donde things properly and other people have. Is just shame.
That's a self esteem and trust thing. I have issues with eye contact and it has nothing to do with drugs... People always assume and don't know shit.. Job interviews and regular conversations with people I do without eye contact. Nothing to do with drugs he has some awkwardness around her.
@@babygfeva You sound very certain, which is odd considering he ended up in jail for his heroin addiction. That tells you he’s had an issue with drugs for many years because people don’t have such a hard drug as their start-up drug. Either way it’s very tragic.
He seems like a socially awkward person who suffers from social anxiety. Sometimes people feel more nervous when looking people directly in the eye
Maci embraced motherhood and grew into an adult so quickly. She seems like a beautiful soul.
Maci has one of the best redemption stories in teen mom!
C W what an ignorant comment. It takes two people to make a child.
Katie A i think you misunderstood her comment. what does alexas comment have to do with anyone else but maci?
@@monayfromdabay she was replying to someone else who deleted their comment I’m pretty sure
And Chelsea
@@lilmisskere07 yes!
I've loved Maci since the beginning..
Queen CoCo agreed, she’s definitely my fave OG
Yes she’s always been my fave, since the 1st episode!!
Yes!! Her personality is everything
Me too. Her and Chelsea have always been my favorites ❤ I like them. They're the best.
@@katybay277 facts and the way she handles it
Men get mad when they can’t handle a strong woman.
Boys get mad, men want a strong woman wo they feel they can rely on when shit gets rough. My father taught me that a strong woman will make you a better man and you as a man have to be strong to make her a better woman. That is why a responsible guy will take his repsonsibilties seriously and be there for his wife and kids. Ryan never grew up, he talks, walks and acts like a teenager. I am 21 years old and l find it weird how he didn't grow up, like he has been like this for a decade.
Ain’t that the truth🙌🏾
Very true
💯 true
@@lucdemanmukenge6562 I hope your parents see this one day because wow👏🏿👏🏿
She was so mature even when she was younger
"do you think you bring more joy to my life, or more trouble?" Such a great question to ask your partner (and yourself) she is and has always been extremely mindful of what her worth is, I love and admire her strength and maturity..
Why the he'll is the guy fighting for more time with his son when he clearly never spent time with him from the get go.
It was his parents pushing for it. Half the time he wasn’t even there.
His parents wanted more time with Bentley and also without Bentley they have no reason to film him, his family and his wife
To piss off macy
Because he loves pissing Maci off and getting her attention in a negative way
Multiple reasons Ryan's parents wanted time w bent, and Ryan's new gf came around saw he was a deadbeat so that put pressure on him to change. Ryan Is a special breed of piece of shit
Maci is literally a Queen. I’m so happy she found her husband, they seem like a perfect fit.
Lisa Jones please be quiet like have a bit of respect just shut up I beg u fam
Lisa Jones YIKES
Lisa Jones all women are Queens. 🤷🏻♀️
Lisa Jones 🤷🏻♀️ Okay. They’re all a king to someone.
Lisa Jones someone failed primary school
I respect the hell out of Maci. She’s always communicated assertively (not everyone can do this well), set clear boundaries, actually followed through with what she said she was going to do, and known her DAMN WORTH. Love it.
Yes! She broke up w Ryan n never looked back! And she's nice but not too nice where she gets pushed over
This video should have been called, "Maci slowly loosing her accent for 24 minutes straight".
I thought I was the only one who noticed that lol
😂
Living in the south I’ve learned that twang is super bad in kids and dissipates as they get older.
He’ll always be “Rhine” though. lol 😂
I notice it 100% lmao always have , especially when she used to call him BINNNY LOL EVEN though everyone else still has one
I bet Ryan could talk to himself and still create an argument where he feels attacked..
💀
That does happen in every addicts head.
Based on experience with a man JUST like Ryan...I can confirm this is 100% true😂
Ahahahhahahahahahahahahahaah I’m sorry but this was funny!
😂
every teen mom gal: "I feel like we have some stuff we need to work through :( "
every teen mom guy ever: 'I don't get it.... I just.... wow you're like psycho.."
anonymousandcool spot on
Nooooo, Tyler is goals!!!!
What happens when kids have kids
@@miah9259 Nah, that’s too easy. I mean you don’t see Maci behave that way and she was also a teen. The guys are emotionally immature (the only one I remember having it more together was the Tayler guy who had to give up his daughter for adoption). But this is running deeper than it being a guy teen problem, after all he (Ryan) ended up in jail as an adult for doing heroin. Whatever he is running from took place way before his teen years.
I always felt that he has always been in love with her and that’s why he went off the rails because he lost her. He seemed to treat her worse when ever she got into a new relationship. He was bitter
Iriana Corona I agree but seems he was always on drugs from his actions and look at eyes probably just got worse so sad
I agree...I thought the same thing.
He hated seeing her happy
Iriana Corona but he didn’t even fight for her at all
@@womaninthewave He almost fought Kyle King over her
Jesus I remember watching this show when I was 16 and I'm almost 30 now. Just seeing the years go by on this video and seeing Bentley turning into a preteen just brings home how much time is going by. I'm old lol
I feel the same lol
We’re still young 🤷🏽♀️🤣
Girl same, it’s so weird 😭😭 Watching this brings me right back to high school
I feel the same way, I will be 30 in September
I was like 13 when this show came out
Maci is such a good parent and so calmly assertive in taking no shit
Ryan's parents are lucky macys been so generous with them. They ruined Ryan by spoiling and enabling him. The second I saw my kid behaving differently coming home from their house... That would be it. They'd be seeing him for a couple hours on Sundays once a week with their mom supervising just like most grandparents get.
gold dust woman exactly but kinda like my situation growing up my dad wasn’t there but my whole dads side has always been there for me they tried making him grow up but my dad just couldn’t be a man for his kids
Thry are good people and love Bentley. They associate $ with love. Its hard to change that but u can't deny they love that boy. With so many grandparents out there that cant be bothered its nice to see that they want the relationship. They make up for Ryans shortcomings. Any parent that denies their child a relationship with grandparents because they spoil them is using the child as a PAWN. HURTING ONLY THE CHILD. parents are the disciplinarians not grandparents we raised ours. We are there simply to love.
@@Rollimggiant grandparents still have a responsibility to respect the boundaries and morals that the parents set for their child and do occasionally need to discipline or they're just showing the kid that they don't need to listen to mom and dad. If the grandparents decide to just ignore that in favor of rules-free spoiling then no, they shouldn't be around the kid unsupervised. So many grandparents I've seen view it as their "right" to "ruin" the kid because they spent their time raising the parent (seriously, that's how I hear it phrased by the grandparents. I can't make this sh- up). obviously there are great grandparents who still spoil the kids while respecting the parents but treating grandparentship as an entitlement is a HUGE red flag.
gold dust woman
Yeah. I feel like they treat him like a thirty year old man child
Yeah if that was my situation I would hate to see my kid turn out like his dad.
he was never meant to be a parent
Still he has 3..
He acts like he doesnt wanna be in a relationship
he doesn’t know how to sacrifice, which is the greatest joy of all. he just thinks about himself
Who’s Ryan 3rd kid now. what’s his 3rd kid name
God makes no mistakes
Damn ryan went from 18-45 in 6 years 😂😂😂
She didn't do it for her happiness she did it for her sons.
Maci is my favorite mom from the *entire* series. Hands down, she's bad a*s and puts her children first; she always has 👏🏽
I remember When i first saw this show i was crushing on ryan but after seeing how he treated maci and how he is so irresponsible. he became unattractive.
Dee M not to mention lazy as hell
He was raised that way. Its not all his fault . his parents played a role by bringing him up doing everything for him.
Ryan use to be so good looking, he just looks so wore out and tired Now. Like boy chill TF out take a nap and please just Be The Best Dad To Bentley for Christ sake.
Dee M *Ryan went from being unattractive straight to repulsive with his petty cruelty and selfishness...* 🤷🏻♀️
@@anacatandbosshog7116 once you hit a certain age you’ve got to stop blaming your parents
You didn't have the scene when Ryan said "honestly, if we didnt have a kid, we wouldn't be together". My heart broke for her when I saw that. She's come a long way.
That was heartbreaking 💔. But look at where Maci is at and look at Ryan. Maci dodge a bullet. Taylor is a great man, and a father.
that was literally horrible. that’s like when adam said “where are the papers for me to sign my rights away to that mistake”
Yeah, that was definitely a scene that was so gut-wrenching. Another scene that was absolutely devastating was when Adam called Chelsea a “fat stretch-mark b*tch.” I couldn’t imagine the heartbreak and the psychological toll it took on her, when she read that text message. Especially when you factor in that she had just given birth to Aurbs just a few months earlier - and naturally, you’re already dealing with hormones, getting adjusted to your new body, becoming a new mom, etc - and I wouldn’t be surprised if she was dealing with PPD during that time in her life too.
Shout out to Macy's self esteem. She valued herself and her son enough to leave early before the relationship destroyed her.
Queen of teen moms
My favourite.
She started it all. The first girl we ever met and her story of getting pregnant was everyone’s worse fear; getting pregnant your first time. And she handled everything like such a grown woman. Even with her relationships she never let them change how she raised Bentley and he is just the most precious little man. His mothers child
Chanel Oberlin not close enough lol
@Chanel Oberlin Kailyn has 4 kids with 4 baby daddies... i think not.
Samantha Rovai you mean 4 kids and 3 baby daddies. her last baby is with chris
Maci is my favorite! At 16 years old she was handling and walking through life like a 37 year old mom of 5 kids! Maci is a complete powerhouse of a mom, wife and person in general! The level of maturity she showed at only 16 years old baffled me, and it made me think...she was definitely here before!
I agree , totally admire how in control she was
maci an Chelsea ❤
Maci was/is always putting Bentley first. Ryan thinks of himself
Sayyyy whatttt???
I don’t think so she very controlling yes Ryan needs help but she can’t make that little boy stop loving his dad and his parents love Bentley she can’t take that away
Nae Si I would disagree with you on that... Yes, she was strict with the boundaries she set, but that order and structure is what she needed to be an effective parent. And even within those limits she was much more giving then most parents would be in that situation. Like she could have probably pushed for Ryan to only be able to see Bentley at a visitation center or even to have his rights as a father taken away. She had grounds for it given that Ryan was/is an addict, went to jail and even threatened Taylor’s life. Instead she kept trying to work with him and his family because she knew that having some relationship with his biological father and grandparents would help Bentley in the long run.
Young Dylan say what... he cares more about drugs rather his own kids
Damn Ryan was really cute, sad how addiction took over his life I hope he’s doing better
He was until he opened his mouth
She has tried so hard for years for him to be a father for Bentley and he has never been able to do that, never. And she's giving him opportunity after opportunity, maybe he'll never do it but at least Bentley will grow up and see how much her mother tried to make a good environment for him and she was so mature, she has done so much for her son.
This just breaks my heart when she is literally crying right in front of him and Bentley is reaching for Ryan...I felt that. It really was killing her to know that was the end.
Maci ALWAYS put Bentley first in every situation. She is such a great mother. I’m very happy she found Taylor.
It was the saddest moment ever when maci Taylor and Ryan parents were having dinner and they all started crying. So frustrated to have such an amazing grandparents and bad dad. Love Ryan parents
FollowingMaria omg yessss 😭😭
And you can kind of see where Ryan’s emotional constipation comes from cause when his dad is crying, you can see a man that never let himself cry or be vulnerable and therefore was never able to teach his son that. Sad
i mean they’re super enabling to ryan but they’re rlly good with bentley except trying to force him to have a relationship with his dad when it makes him uncomfortable
Ryan "do you have any homework"
*finds homework*
Ryan "do it at your mums"
Why ask if you are not going to bother supporting him through his education?
I was like 😬🙄
He clearly wants to be the fun parent
lol had me cackle
Maci's communication is so clear and so clean👌🏾 if someone doesn't understand her its because they dont want to🤞🏾
❤️ The way she handled that conversation at 7:59 was so boss. Straightforward, polite and didn’t take the bait he tried to give her. She has always been my favorite.
I wish I could be as calm as Macy!
Right! And she’s a Leo, I do not know how she stays out together being a fire sign!!
@@lindsaysaunders7346 remember when Ryan made Maci fix the far when she was pregnant with Bentley
Me too…
I hate to say it but as a person who's been clean and sober for 13 years, Ryan is never going to be able to stay clean until he starts taking full responsibility for his actions and not blaming everything on other people.. And that's never going to happen until his parents start holding him accountable. Who knows what that MacKenzie's doing, But I do know that his parents, especially his mother, have continued to let him get away with acting like an entitled teenager, and blaming all his self made problems on other people. Until Ryan gets some real focused help, not just for the addiction, but for his behavioral issues and until he has to actually deal with consequences instead of constantly being bailed out and pandered to by his mom and to a lesser extent his dad, He's going to continue to have the same brand of self destructive narcissism that has messed up his life so far.
Congrats on your sobriety. You’ve done amazing. Really happy for you 💖
@@shannons956 thank you!
First of all, congratulations to you! After I read “sober for 13 years” I dropped the phone and started clapping and it brought tears to my eyes. I am super happy and proud and don’t even know you. Congrats 🍾🎉🎊🎈2nd of all, I couldn’t agree with you more. The beginning of the clip where Maci poured her heart out about how it pains her that Ryan doesn’t acknowledge their son baffled me that his response was in reverse psychology telling Maci she’s never happy. His narcissism showed right there. I truly wanted them to make it but SO glad she dodged that bullet.
Congrats 💖💖
You are such a wise soul. You were very articulate in explaining this complicated situation
Thank GOD Maci raised Bentley . Because he’s a truly amazing child .
She did a good job!!
That's nice how Maci did her job.
Maci was always my favorite, she didn't take shit from anyone, she expected adults to behave like adults, she was great with her kids, she was never disrespectful, amazing
facts same with Jade
Maci is the definition of a GOOD WOMAN. Glad she got her happy ending
Ryan will lose this year hunting now he will go to court this year and go to jail 900,000 likes and the mom no one this year MACI 900,000 likes and she keeps she keeps her son and that the dad then dad's going to jail and the mom is it watch it next Tuesday
This why I love Maci always has and always been mature , so happy she found her happiness
facts .
Since she came on teen mom I’ve always loved her. Bentley is like 15 now, and she still seems to be an amazing human/mom. I hope she decides to share her life as reassurance that some people don’t suck.
i remember seeing how calm maci always stayed and it literally changed the way i behaved. i aspired to be like her.
Maci is such a beautiful person. She knows her worth and did so much better for herself.
Notice how all of the women in these shows actually try to talk and have relationships with the men and they want the guys to see their kids. The guys just flip out when they try to talk and call them crazy it is kind of humorous
I've always thought Maci was amazing. Not only is she a supermom, but she's just an amazing girl and wife. She's a lady - even with tattoos. lol She's a guy's girl, kind of a tomboy, and I can really relate to that. She's been great to Ryan, even when he doesn't deserve it. He should be thanking the Lord she's the mother of his son. She's shown him how a real parent should be. And despite their flaws, I love Jen and Larry. Clearly there is damage there, but every family has it's dynamic. Some aren't as rose-filled, but you just keep walking, Larry. Keep putting one foot in front of the other. Taylor is a great catch, Maci. What a GOOD man!!
She’s a lady- even with tattoos.🙄
Gen Gg what I thought lmao having tattoos doesn’t make you less of a lady 🤦🏻♀️🤣
@@stretchyfingers lmaoooo I had the same reaction when I read that sentence
I more so interpreted her sentence to mean that Maci has a sweet and feminine spirit about her - and can still be looked at as a feminine woman - despite being heavily tattooed, someone who likes sports, who is a tom boy, etc. More often that not, some people have this distorted perception that a heavily tattooed woman makes a woman less dainty or less feminine or less delicate, and she was trying to dispel that negative stereotype, and express that she doesn’t feel that way about Maci, despite the tattoos. The Original Commenter wasn’t intending to be rude or disparaging at all.
I cried when I saw Ryan’s parents talking to Maci and crying with emotion. They love her so much, It’s so sad about Ryan. I really hope he gets better. He has such amazing people in his life. Maci is such a mature woman. I love her.
Maci is so calm I don't know how shes stayed calm through all of the bs. Especially when Bentley was a baby and they were still together. Ryan treated her like crap. Glad she learned her worth
Ryan should pay her money for all he’s done to her
I love Ryan’s parents. They’ve always been the cutest!!! Even though his mom is an enabler. She still adorable lol
They have good hearts but they have set their son of for literal failure. It's ridiculous. He has never been accountable and as "cute" as they are, it is their own grandkids that suffer just because they couldn't have a backbone with ryan
They both enabled him. Just in different ways.
Yes I agree and I was happy to see his dad was getting sick of his BS a few times. I like his dad alot
Yea his mom seems sweet, but a pushover
Maci has always been my favorite. I feel like she’s beyond her years and has always been super mature
The more I look at this the more I am so proud of her. I always felt like Ryan's parents felt like she should've felt privileged to be with him due to their status. And now she is doing a great job raising their grandson on her own with her new husband and business partner doing extremely well. Love it! She was always my favorite original! Even when I stopped looking at the show.
What's their status ?
@@sharnashields7118 I dont look at the show consistently anymore but as far as I know. She is still with her husband doing well. Ryan I have no idea! But maybe a more devoted fan can answer your question after viewing it.
@@5proudmomof - 😂 Lol. No, Sharna wasn’t asking you what was Maci’s status as in her actual relationship status. I think she was asking you what you meant when you wrote “I always felt like Ryan’s parents felt like she should’ve felt privileged to be with him due to their status”. I was confused by that sentence too. Were you saying that because Ryan came from an affluent, wholesome family (a two parent household, that was upper middle class), Maci should have felt privileged by that? If so, that makes sense. (A lot of people have that mentally - they like to keep up appearances, as if everything is perfect, when behind close doors their life is in shambles.) Jen and Larry definitely fit that mold.
@@sabrina.natalie yes that's what I meant. I always felt like they were pompous and looked down on Maci at the beginning. It's amazing how the tables have turn.
She was so mature at such a young age. Wow. She has really calm communication skills that *I’m* still working on even in my mid-20s.
Bentley is so big now 😭😅😢
I still believe that Maci’s story made the show. At one point everyone hoped her and Ryan could work it out. And Bentley is all of our baby! Haha But honestly, I believe Ryan knew/knows that he messed up big time when it comes to having a life with Maci and Bentley. Even throughout everything they’ve been through, I still believe he loves Maci. She’s the one who got away, for him. This show never would have made it without Maci, Ryan and Bentley tho, I’ll stand on that. Lol
Yes!!! Maci is the best and I just love Bentley!
Agree but Catelynn and Tyler was also a big part of it. I really applaud them for sticking together after they gave Carly away and are still together, even with the many hurdles they had to overcome.
The dinner with Maci, her husband and Ryan’s parents made me cry 😢
Maci was so mature from such a young age.
Well, yes that's nice that Maci sounds like she married another good guy. That's nice. I'm glad I'm supportive because it's meant to be.
I think Ryan acted like such a jerk to Maci because he thought she’d always need him and couldn’t live without him. When he saw her move on, get married, and live a happy successful life, he went downhill real fast. He realized what a great girl he lost, and he saw the great life he could have had if he’d treated her right. Same thing with Adam and Chelsea.
Addiction often comes from deep rooted trauma. In the reunion when he was crying, his mom told him to “stop that” instead of validating him or ask him what he was thinking. He finally opened up and his mom shut it down and didn’t want to acknowledge his emotions. His father yelling at him at games like that - often kids learn to shut up and to shut down when they are being yelled at like that. Kids feel like they don’t have control, they aren’t good enough, something is wrong with them etc. I would shut down my emotions too and learn not to speak up if my dad freaked out like that... especially in public.
His dad has bad communication with Ryan and so does his mother.
His father said that “I had to say some hateful things” “I wanted to hurt him” I mean like come on... you need to set boundaries but you don’t NEED to say hateful things to other people or want to hurt them.
His parents had very angry and suppressed emotional communication with him.
Also, he may just also lack empathy for other people. He does have psychopathic tendencies but that was enabled by his parents not wanting him to express emotion or his father yelling to the point where you need to emotionally shut down to get through a youth baseball game.
jeteaze great analysis
Yeah there was definitely some abuse going on when he was young, however that does not excuse addiction. Lots of people have a traumatic childhood and grown up fully functional, probably a combination of childhood stress and a weak personality.
J L Those people aren’t him. Can’t compare anybody to him unless they’ve lived his exact life, with his exact genetics, exact environment, exact hardships, etc. And no it isn’t an excuse, it’s an explanation. A valid one. People tend to demonize addicts without trying to understand them first. Understanding doesn’t mean enabling. It’s a way of finding compassion
Nu Mindframe Tarot I completely agree. You explained it beautifully. Once people understand trauma more... they can see the red flags and try to prevent it from happening to others. Hopefully, we can all show some love and compassion and try to intervene abuse at a younger age so we as a society can decrease depression, anxiety, antisocial personality tendencies, shame, hate, and addiction.
I think the father has got a drinking problem.
The mother plays happy family.
Ryan could have autism.
I really respected Maci and the way she handled everything. She came from a good family and knew she needed more in a relationship then the infatuation of being in love. She wanted a good father and no matter what worked with Ryan to have him in Bentleys life. Respect 💕
I have always liked Ryan’s parents. They seem like good people. We all have flaws. Nobody is perfect. They genuinely love Maci and Bentley.
definitely they’re amazing people but to a fault. they enable ryan so bad and that’s exactly what’s going to kill their son
It's crazy to think about what kind of life Maci and Bentley would have now if she stayed with Ryan for the kid like a lot of women do. I'm so glad she was smart.
Ryan’s parents enable him still. Ryan’s wife wants to be Maci so badly and she can’t be. Maci you are an angel. Kuddos to you and how you said Ryan’s snake of a wife I busted out laughing because we all know Maci is right
She had soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch patience with hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiim!!!!!!
Wow! She was raising a kid to be a parent! Lol! Kids wear condoms !
MS BOSS LADY cvff
MS BOSS LADY How about don’t have sex at at all. And wait for that on person
Condoms break use birth control also
Ryan needs help 900,000 likes next Tuesday on teen mom Ryan will lose 900,000 likes and the mom keep Bentley ryan Will stay in jail for a long time and the mom will win in court 900,000 likes
Why can’t Ryan ever care!! Maci was more the Lenient with him.
Because of his addiction. It makes you someone unrecognizable
Angela Scairato he was like that before his addiction
@@angelascairato8325 even before he was on drugs he was a piece of sh*t
Maci is the most patient person ever!
Ryan is a sociopath. Macy was so mature and was never mean or ignorant to Ryan. He always mistreats her and acts like such a child.
Harsh?
Not really.
@@jenniferhenry7467 was sarcasm
@@youngdylan5083 lol sorry just woke up
@@jenniferhenry7467 one of those days!!
Bentley’s probably watching this now like wow that’s my dad
gi822 poor thing
Ryan will lose this year on team Mom 900,000 likes and Ryan will go to jail for God 900,000 likes on teen mom
When he admitted he didn't care and the baby reach out to him at 4:03 Really got me
That was heart breaking
Why did she let Ryan near her son then she should have went to court and filed for full custody of Bentley poor boy he loved Ryan but Ryan didn’t care about nobody but himself he should be in jail for good every woman he gets with will be like Maci leave Ryan file for full custody
21:00 "Uncle Ryan" comment got Taylor almost laughing . Taylor knows that he is Bentley's father.
One I can say is Maci is very mature and humble for her age. She how her and her son should be treated and didn’t depend on her bd for a lot. She actually handled her business. I hope Ryan eventually gets his life together for the sake of bentley.
I love that the producers actually care about them and their kids.
What's the status with Ryan now. I feel for his parents but they created a monster. I am the child of one of those spoiled monsters that got everything and my nana just died 3 days ago with me being the only person by her side. When you raise children like Ryan it will haunt you for life. And from my personal experience people like that don't change. I think Bentley will grow to be like me... 33 years old wanting nothing to do with my parent who acts like a child. I haven't seen or spoken to my mother in 7 years. They think kids won't grow up to realize their toxicity but we certainly do. No matter how young, they're watching.
nylotus - Last I heard, he was still struggling with sobriety. He was addicted to Heroin at one point (allegedly), and had spent some time in jail. He married a woman by the name of Mackenzie Standifer back in 2017 - they recently welcomed a daughter together by the name of Stella.
On his wedding day, he was high as a kite. He was driving under the influence and nearly falling asleep at the wheel, and Mackenzie reached over and turned the MTV car cameras off. After the cameras are turned off, she asked: “Did you take a Xanax.” And he says: “No. I put that on my kids life”. You can watch the full video here: streamable.com/mfjt1
The entire thing was extremely unsettling and disturbing to watch. You should check out the entire episode, it’s heartbreaking.
I’m sorry to hear about your nana. I pray that you are healing and find peace in knowing she is in Heaven. I’m sending lots of love, light, and hugs your way.
@@sabrina.natalie Thank you so much for your kind words. She's 95, loved Jesus, and had the biggest heart. I miss her so much. You are absolutely right... and I do find comfort in knowing she's in heaven. Her father was a soldier in World War I and she always talked about how much she misses her Papa. Now she's with him. 💙 My mother's selfishness has still continued even after the death of my nana. She took the money my nana left for her funeral and now I'm left paying for everything. My mother's drug is money. She will do anything, cheat anyone, steal, lie, whatever to get money. Anything but work. She's pathetic! I feel bad for Bentley because I know what he'll have to deal with in the years to come. Like I said... people like that just don't change.
@@nylotus how did you turn out so level headed and mature despite your parent? x
Problem is his parents have treated him like a baby just like Taylor said they have done to him like they have for 30 years, They make maci seem like the monster but unfortunately things will not change until jen and larry admit that their son is the problem, If I were his parents I would have given up on him a while ago
if Ryan's could see himself actin like idiots
real talk
It's like does he not watch himself acting like a jackass
If i was Ryan's dad I'd be disguster if he treated his baby mama Maci like that same with how he talks down to Bentley
Maci has a beautiful spirit.
The irony of Ryan worried about Maci taking him away when he has stepped away.