Or someone wrote Lilith out of an original story. The Bible is full of reimagined stories. Also some blatant ones like Moses. There was no Moses it was made up
I had read the information about Lilith a very long time ago. However, she was counted as the second wife of Adam, the first being Ariel who was formed from the same substance as the angels and was rejected by Adam as being "too pure."
From my standpoint, it's like God turned the joke back to Adam and his kind... All the revelations that was given to Prophets, tell people to "be pure" so that they would one day enter Heaven and "wed" with the Angels, and most women here on Earth is like Lilith. Know that God won't neglect a pure heart!
@@MO-NO517 I mean, it's like having to date with an Astrophysicist... Every single phenomena discussed during the dates that you'll have, would be linked up to Space and astronomical occurrence. You'll be amazed at first, but then, when the topics strayed from Zodiacs to Quasars, you'll start asking yourself: "Why am I even here?"
no its not, lilith was first a phoenician godess and was also perceived as a benevolent goddess but in the second temple times she was percived as evil godess for the chaldeans and was percived as an evil entity when they try to adapt and sincretize her with the judaism
Sometimes either the earliest or most rejected stories and folktales carry the most truth. And Lilith was not wrong for attempting to choose her own independence. Not to mention the times in which these events occurred was before Satan's rebellion which means Lilith was not demonized by him. There is only two possible ways she could have been demonized. Either by fate or by God.
You know, I have this theory that rebellion is a part of existence. Like it isn't some human flaw or sin. Lucifer was an angel, a support perfect being when he rebelled. And the first humans sinned before sin even came into the world. 🤷 Think about it
This is not canonical, this was an attempt to adapt a Canaanite goddess to Judaism, Lilith was initially a Canaanite goddess considered the mother of demons but Judaism rejected her because she rejected strange gods, but in an attempt to syncretize the foreign gods with the Judaism they started with this liltih story
There is another version, when she is in red sea she meets a demon called Samael. I migth be wrong but i think succubus and íncubus folklore comes from the offspring of those 2.
Funny there is an (way) older version where Lilith DIDN'T want 2 be equal as Adam (as they were equals originally), but wanted 2 be his superior, as that didn't happen she walked away and later God made Eve from the rib and she was equal 2 Adam as well and she accepted that. The rest is pretty much same. There is a other story where Adam and Eve were like 1 hermaphrodic being and Lilith was part of something similar with Demon/archangel/fallen angel Samael, the former where seen as the good version and latter as evil version, God later splitted them off. Either a diff story that claims that Cain is actually Lilith's child with Samael (although there is a other 1 that claims is with Adam, at same time there is version that says Cain parents r Samael and Eve instead). In Summarian stories there is a race of Liliths, what can be translated as water spirits or owls. In some stories she is listed as a Goddess. They could've removed Lilith from bible because of the older version of her story or because both versions existed and back than they couldn't figure out which 1 was the older version, they just omitted it in order 2 avoid confusion.
@@kairinase You mean Iblis? So he forgives his other half Mephiles the Dark? How would work if they merge back into 1 being aka Solaris again? He would be half forgiven?
I think they removed her because she was a sign of female independence that well, the Bible was very misogynistic and don't wanna empower women readers to be such
@@damnkevindeaderthanamf6068 Is plausible if just going with the newer version of her story. But same time that would mean they would've most likely removed Ruth as well than. But who knows.
@Scarlet King Except they’re not. The canonical stories in the Bible actually fit together and honor God not blaspheme against him. In your attempt to seem clever with your non believer views, you just came off as foolish.
@Scarlet King Well for starters, we have eye witness accounts to the events of the gospels, the consistency of the Bible despite being scribed by 40 different authors throughout thousands of years (Which even skeptics of the religion have conceded), and the fact it has had objective truths that ring even today as opposed to the unreliable and subjective standards of the secular world. Furthermore I can’t consider the Lilith story canon, because the earliest findings about her date back to 500 AD, well past the scriptures. Nowhere found in the Dead Sea Scrolls. You can find more evidence from people like Inspired Philosophy.
@@KingNazaru but that's already playing into the game of "pick and choose what to say it's canonical or not" of the church, it all jsut makes it look more like a facade when something is excluded just out of convenience
No. Equating her to feminism is quite insulting as they represent two different things. Plus Lilith kills women out of spite which contradicts such a conclusion.
Is that the one where Asteria (don't know if this is who it is) bragged about having more children than Leto and Artemis and Apollo killed her kids as revenge for their mom?
@@elizabethmadrid405 I'm not sure, I haven't heard that version, the version I heard is that Asteria and Leto were sisters and even though they were Titans, they fought alongside Zeus. Asteria turned into a stork to escape from Zeus who wanted to have his way with her and then turned into an island so Poseidon couldn’t get to her either. She didn’t want to be owned by Zeus or Poseidon, she didn’t want any ties with the land or sea, that they ruled. Asteria’s sister Leto however, wasn’t able to get away from Zeus and became pregnant with Artemis and Apollo, Hera was livid and forbid any land to give refuge to Leto. Leto searched and searched for a place and she was about to give up, when she heard a whisper from Asteria, inviting her to live on her island, as she wasn’t afraid of Hera and she had no ties with the land or the sea and that’s where Artemis and Apollo were born. Asteria is also Hecate’s mother which I think is so cool.
@@OliviaT-h9p ah. Well then not sure what this is. Only heard three stories involving Leto. The birth of the twins. The peasant into frog over water issue. And the children massacre because of parent bragging thing
More in depth Assyrian mythologies please! As the first empire and civilization, there’s plenty of stories and mythologies to cover in both the Assyrian pagan past and their turn to Christianity. There’s so much more to offer besides the Epic Tale of Gilgamesh and the goddess Ishtar, who was also in the Gilgamesh tale and the Starbucks logo.
@@suburbansadboy9668 LOL! I'm not talking about Tyler Perry's Madea. I'm talking about Medea, the daughter of King Aëetus of Colchis and one of the most powerful sorceresses in Greek mythology.
I shouldn't have to clarify this but people these days can't do research to save their lives so: Lilith is not a true symbol of feminism. Feminism is about women receiving equal rights to men so we complete each other as equals. Lilith and Adam were more obsessed with who was "above" who, which likely represents authority/power. So she is just as bad as Adam in this scenario as she wants dominance just as much as he does. Additionally she literally kills women out of spite in various legends, so like...how this conclusion was reached is crazy.
I remember seeing a documentary years ago about when Cain was exiled after killing Abel he met Lilith and had children with her starting the first race of man that was wicked
it is also believed that Lilith is the wife of cain after cain was exiled for killing abel , the first murderer and the first women who turned away from her creator
@@psychedelicpayroll5412 thats why i said old scripts... theres so many versions of the story. other stories tells lilith is married to lucifer and became the mother of demons after getting the seeds of adam
I don’t know wether you all will believe but whatever differences in our religion- Islam, Christianity, Jews, there are so many stories and their origins are similar. Very similar. This means so many roots of our religion come same. People use religion to cause chaos and of course there are religious fanatics who go to another level. I am not even going to detail them.
Furthermore, since the "fall" hadn't occurred yet, Lilith was NOT inferior to Adam. Because of Eve's fall was she told her husband would rule over her, which makes sense because of the rib.
A woman is never inferior to a man but that man has authority over that woman that's God's order and always will be he ordained marriage and he established the standard of marriage and relationship
@@elderleon1844 It was also to try to explain things that people saw as too ambiguous in the Bible, like the first chapter of Genesis apparently saying that "woman" was created alongside Adam on the sixth day, but the next one says that it was from Adam's rib on a different day. All in all, I don't think that this particular interpretation should be seen as a negative thing. It doesn't change things too much. The whole thing about Lucifer being Satan is never stated in the Bible and yet is canonical because that's how people understand the context, I don't see why things should be different with Lilith.
@@hineraable In fact, the book of Genesis does not say on which day the woman being made from Adam's rib happened and it does not say that it was on a different day, but rather that everything could have perfectly happened on the same day and it was not said that both were made at the same time, but that they were created on the same day and again it is not said in genesis that the creation of woman was done on another day, and lilith comes from another culture as cultural appropriation so this interpretation is problematic in addition to lucifer and satam being something implicit in the Bible, as in the original text of Ezekiel, makes it clear that he is speaking to more than one person, however Lilith is not even mentioned in the canonical books and appears later as a result of the cultural appropriation of a Phoenician goddess, this in itself already leaves many problems with this interpretation, other than that it reinforces an idea that the Bible does not support because it must be made from Adam's rib and being flesh like yours already induces equality between the two
I view Liliths story as cannon imo To me it will make a lot of sense as to how the garden of Eden worked or if Satan came in, comfort her and said he will take her place as the serphent but as long as she became his wife
The problem was that both wished to rule above the other instead of respecting each other as equals, and even then it was her choice to leave Eden and rejected to return there, so in the end was a matter of choice, she did not need to become evil, but desire, egoism, envy, jealeousy and pride domed her, just like Adam and Eve, who whising to be equals to god broke his only law, and ended expeled from Eden to.
Personally, I think Lillith was actually Adam's sister not his wife as she was created in exactly the same time & manner as Adam, which also suggests she was possibly his twin.
Well in that case Eve was Adam daughter so. Yeah let just forget that. No they were created in the same way, that doesn't make them siblings, at least not genetically. Their relationship might had been siblings. But it clear that it's not the case and that it was wife/husband relationship. Or at least trying to be. But surprise A woman don't want to be considered as inferior to a Man. So let's demonise her and blame her for everything like scapegoat. Christiannity, we had sexism before, but we enforce it (and homophobia/racism too)
@@deinsilverdrac8695 boy it's not even like that, scene from how Lilith here was jealous about Adam and Eve being lovey-dovey together. She only got demonized when she did that demonic stuff by closing them to eat the fruits going by the lore here. So she got demonized she wanted to be alone right let her be alone, but she came back and was jealous and then cause them to do something great. Why wouldn't she be demonized.
@@deinsilverdrac8695 this wasn't the case. it wasn't because she wanted to be equal. It was she did not want to be with Adam for some reasons. Christians aren't homophobic. People just call them homophobic because they don't want to admit that homosexuality is wrong. So they try to make christians look to judgmental but that's not the case. When we notice something is wrong, we don't let it go unnoticed. And as a result people call us intolerable.
Before lilith there was another woman, but both adam and god were too annoyed by her. She is far too self entitled, like the whole world owed her, her name was karen. When she met adam, she immediately asked for the manager.
Well not to be that one historical pagan but agrat/adrat lili isn't one entity, they are separate entities. Spirits of unwedded women who were intimate in life but now haunt men in their intimate dreams
😕 : Mm..what ? Now I'm confused . First I've read a comment that the rest of the story is she started a family with Cain { who killed Able } and now ... This !? 🧐🤔 She must have married more than once . ♑️✍️🇦🇺🇸🇯
She's not actually a Jewish myth. A lilith used to be a demon in the ancient world, and a servant of the Babylonian Lamashtu, who was basically exactly the same as the myth of Lilith. Lamia and Obizuth were the same too, and not Jewish. The alphabet of ben sira was satirical and considered blasphemous. It wasn't until later on that the Jews became fascinated by her, and started writing fanfics. I think Lilith can be added to any pagan pantheon, as she's involved in similar fashions just with different names.
I feel there is enough to know about Lilith and not enough about what inspired her creation. Lilith was just a plagiarism of older myths. The Demon Goddess Lemashtu predates Lilith and was the main inspiration to her.
I will digress. I'd say that she was inspired by the lilitu instead of lamashtu. As lamashtu wasn't really into seduction and was rather there as a destroyer and killer.
syncretism not plagiarism, this were not fictional characters with copyrights they are religious figures that people believe in, they dont think in they as having copyright or a owner they think in they as real persons so they try to mix diferent narratives as the same big truth what was not aways a sucess since some religions like the judaism have no space for sincretism
Lol. The way 'submission' is portrayed is very antagonizing towards Adam within those animations. Like its immediately seen as abusive from him as a man while that doesnt have to be the case at all and is not the meaning behind this. Its her disobedience towards Gods will and and flies over Adams head which is immediate Blasphomy. Adam accepts his role as is without question while she does not and this is where she loses equality as well because she feels she stands above Adam otherwise why question what God has given you. Its an paradox where Lilith will always lose based on her mindset because her not accepting to submit under Adam is an immediate disobedience towards Gods will.
It’s a fictional story , calm down. I’ll humour you If they were made they same way why can’t they be equal. Yes they have ‘different roles’ but if she doesn’t want to then way cant she say no it?
@@Mf-wolf What's wrong with being an atheist but being interested in what other people believe in? Those videos are not only for religious people. Also there are many different versions of the same story. Adam might as well have been abusive towards her...Who really knows? And in the end those are just ficitional stories until the opposite is proven and since there are many versions of the same story proving their credibility is nigh impossible. lol.
I don't think she turned into a demon until eve arrived on the scene. It's the basic subconscious nature, people turns demonic in a mix of anger, despair and jealousy.
@@thechad7600Just like the Greek mythology, none of this is consistent. There's versions were she gets jealous, there's versions were she ends up with a demon and there's versions were she simply disappears. If anything, the whole "got jealous of the good girl Eve" version just seems made to demeanor the character and say "look what happens to women who don't want to submit to their husbands".
I'm a devotee to Lilith, write about her (2 books so far), and do videos here on youtube. The Jewish story of Lilith comes from the fact that Genesis 1 says that Man and Woman were created at the same time, then Genesis 2 says that Adam was created, he was alone, and later Eve was taken from his side. Lilith is called a demon at that point, but she is also said to be the sometimes consort of father God. Interestingly, she appears first in Mesopotamian mythology as a goddess/demon prior to the Jewish Bible and Midrash.
Genesis 1 does not say that man and woman were created at the same time but that God created man and woman and that's it, it does not say at any point that they were created at the same time
bruh, anything that isn't canon should not be treated as gospel truth. lilith isn't mentioned in the canonical 66 books of the bible, and will never be. she's merely a folktale, a bed time story for children.
Lilith, the first Feminist... I don't get it, Adam had a responsibility as a husband, and she had a responsibility as a Wife. Why did she feel she could rebel against God when, in all honesty, life may have been a lot better for her going forward? If she was jealous of Adam and Eve's relationship, maybe she learned she should've taken the role of the wife that God had planned for her. I don't think she's been unfairly demonized. Lucifer Rebelled against God (obviously for a different, more heinous reason) and he's demonized, why should Lilith get a free pass? Cause she's a woman? Well ain't that something... says a lot about Feminists.
Lillith was wrong. She was not a feminist but toxic. I get that the Bible have misogyny in it but Adam played his roles, she didn't, that's where she was wrong
How though? Adams main purpose was to make Lilith pregnant so mankind could reproduce Not to get nsfw, but their are many ways that it could have been done. Adam could have just enjoyed it while Lilith was being the dommy mommy
Nothing about Lilith is mentioned in the Quran, as far as I know; but, from the words of Prophet Muhammad PBUH, there's a creature that caused disease like fever and such, and she's called "Ummi Mildam". As to why she's called "Ummi" (mother), it might be an indication that she's connected to our Father, Prophet Adam... But, is she really Lilith? Only Allah and His Messengers know.
I love how Lillith is embraced and the poster girl of feminists. She is the perfect picture for them in modern era's. Claiming to be a strong independant woman, then ruining everything for others out of jealousy, hatred etc. She is the perfect poster girl for fourth wave feminists. XD
As a jewish we believe that in the end she married with the Satan... and Eve gave to Adan the apple because she was afraid that she will die. and he will merry with another woman. like what happened to Lilith. So she is the mother of all demons.
No it’s in the Kabbalah. It’s not in the apocrypha. In the Adam and Eve have their story extended where they beg to get back in the garden and God had to bring them back to life because they kept committing suicide. It also shows them experiencing darkness for the first time and how the cherub who witnessed the entire incident had to convince God not to destroy them.
@@KingNazaru There's no real difference between biblical canon and apocrypha. Just because the former has the approval of some old dudes from centuries ago doesn't make them any more valid than the latter.
Another way to look at it is it is a name that is associated with a strong female who may be considered a goddess, and did not consider herself inferior to anyone else.
Wait I thought lucifer took the role of the serpent in the garden, Bc I’m pretty sure in the Bible it said satan was the one that tricked Eve into eating the forbidden fruit
If I understand it correctly, Lilith is considered a folkloric figure, and because she does not appear in the Book of Genesis Christians do not consider her historically "canon".
@@savvythedivineyethuggable7493 expect they aren't really wrong. Sexism was really bad back in those days. Women were not only considered inferior to men, in most societies they were considered property. The way ISIS treated its women and how they made and treated slaves is actually very similar to how society was when the Old and New testament was written.
Lilith sound like Captain Marvel. Very independent. I'm surprised such story even existed thousand of years ago considering the society back then suppress women too much. Even for a folklore it is incredible that back then someone do wish women to have a stronger presence in society.
Actually,from what I heard, god send 3 angels to bring Lilith back to Eden, but when she refused, the angels cursed her that all her children be stillborn or be killed young. That why Lilith in revenge kills/steals others babies.
hebrew mythology's roots were taken from earlier mythologies. i am sure earlier creation myths contain stories similar to the garden. christianity's mythology is loosely translated jewish myths
Lilith might be the goddess Lalitha. She's portrayed sitting on her husband Shiva and like Lilith, she is shown with two lions. She's also known as Tripura sundari, the patronage of three cities which her husband Shiva destroyed. These cities might be outside India.
No. Disobeying God is not a good thing. Whether you believe she was real or not, her actions were not good. Understand the story better and you will see why she was in the wrong and Adam and God were in the right.
Do you know what’s “kinda dumb” people taking the bible seriously and believing it’s real. When it was written, edited and created by and for upper class males who owned slaves and married 13 year old girls. Who only created it and churches to control people and keep their wealth
She's not really tragic at all. She blatantly was like "I'm better than the person who is essentially my husband, I don't care what he says, and I know better than the god of the universe, and ruined the world all because I was jealous of a healthy relationship I could have easily had."
@@theblackcomrade surprisedly not. God personally give samael away to be Lilith husband and end up having many babies. Lucifer became involve in conflict with God little after God floated the earth. Making samael the father of demon
I find it kinda of interesting that in comedy show Fraiser; his wife who is Jewish is named Lilith and her relationship with him is, how shall we say it, Testy?
she is not canon, she was just a atempt to mix the judaism with an older pagan goddess, also she want to rule over adam, she never want to be equal to him
@@elderleon1844 that i know but i find her interesting, But I mean didnt Adam did the Same Not thinking as equal? So both are Not really really seeing as that
Lilith: I ain't gonna submit to no man!!!
Lucifer: Hey babe, I'm something of a master at rebellions myself.
Satan: “Sup Girl.”
Lucifer: what’s good shawty
I guess it's a good thing Lucifer is not a "man".
Soooo basically the first feminist
Lucifer: Hey bbg, you know.. You can be my queen...
It’s like someone from antiquity said, “I’m going to make a kickass prequel to Adam and Eve.”
@Serena Honey121
Facts, like... that's crazy narcissism
@Serena Honey121 Ariel caliber for sure
Or someone wrote Lilith out of an original story. The Bible is full of reimagined stories. Also some blatant ones like Moses. There was no Moses it was made up
This is not true
John Milton's Paradise Lost: "Am I a joke to you?"
I had read the information about Lilith a very long time ago. However, she was counted as the second wife of Adam, the first being Ariel who was formed from the same substance as the angels and was rejected by Adam as being "too pure."
Did he reject it for this reason? What do you mean?🤔
Too pure? What counts as that? Unable to hold hands? Look each other in the eyes?!
Wait, too pure? Lol, how? In what way? Why would he turn her down?
From my standpoint, it's like God turned the joke back to Adam and his kind...
All the revelations that was given to Prophets, tell people to "be pure" so that they would one day enter Heaven and "wed" with the Angels, and most women here on Earth is like Lilith.
Know that God won't neglect a pure heart!
@@MO-NO517 I mean, it's like having to date with an Astrophysicist... Every single phenomena discussed during the dates that you'll have, would be linked up to Space and astronomical occurrence.
You'll be amazed at first, but then, when the topics strayed from Zodiacs to Quasars, you'll start asking yourself: "Why am I even here?"
The story is also an example of how changes in time can change the views of stories.
no its not, lilith was first a phoenician godess and was also perceived as a benevolent goddess but in the second temple times she was percived as evil godess for the chaldeans and was percived as an evil entity when they try to adapt and sincretize her with the judaism
@elderjose9662, is that really true So Lilith is basically a fanfic character in Jewish mythology?
Sometimes either the earliest or most rejected stories and folktales carry the most truth. And Lilith was not wrong for attempting to choose her own independence. Not to mention the times in which these events occurred was before Satan's rebellion which means Lilith was not demonized by him. There is only two possible ways she could have been demonized. Either by fate or by God.
The bible may not have lilith bit it does have jezebel and diliah.
There's always a third option: By herself... Cause she was given free will.
You know, I have this theory that rebellion is a part of existence. Like it isn't some human flaw or sin. Lucifer was an angel, a support perfect being when he rebelled. And the first humans sinned before sin even came into the world. 🤷 Think about it
@@NK-dt1kp that’s an interesting thought/theory
It may just be some plot holes in what are very old story’s but it’s still cool syncretism to notice
@Marshal Marrs
I don’t know if that was a retcon or not
Lilith was also the “Mother of Demons”, as she willingly gave into 1, and spawned a whole demonic race.
This is not canonical, this was an attempt to adapt a Canaanite goddess to Judaism, Lilith was initially a Canaanite goddess considered the mother of demons but Judaism rejected her because she rejected strange gods, but in an attempt to syncretize the foreign gods with the Judaism they started with this liltih story
There is another version, when she is in red sea she meets a demon called Samael. I migth be wrong but i think succubus and íncubus folklore comes from the offspring of those 2.
You’re correct
Samael is more of fallen angel not demon but asmodeus that is both demon and angel
@@evanderzufarsetiawan2511
Originally demon are all fallen angels
Maybe the 2nd gen demon are just demon
@@chrixdigit that's true for christianity and judaism demon are fallen angel
Samaël is the angel name of Lucifer i think.
Funny there is an (way) older version where Lilith DIDN'T want 2 be equal as Adam (as they were equals originally), but wanted 2 be his superior, as that didn't happen she walked away and later God made Eve from the rib and she was equal 2 Adam as well and she accepted that. The rest is pretty much same.
There is a other story where Adam and Eve were like 1 hermaphrodic being and Lilith was part of something similar with Demon/archangel/fallen angel Samael, the former where seen as the good version and latter as evil version, God later splitted them off. Either a diff story that claims that Cain is actually Lilith's child with Samael (although there is a other 1 that claims is with Adam, at same time there is version that says Cain parents r Samael and Eve instead).
In Summarian stories there is a race of Liliths, what can be translated as water spirits or owls. In some stories she is listed as a Goddess.
They could've removed Lilith from bible because of the older version of her story or because both versions existed and back than they couldn't figure out which 1 was the older version, they just omitted it in order 2 avoid confusion.
It doesn't matter... as long they have been forgiven, they will be pardoned by God. The only creature who rejects this salvation is Iblees.
@@kairinase You mean Iblis? So he forgives his other half Mephiles the Dark? How would work if they merge back into 1 being aka Solaris again? He would be half forgiven?
I think they removed her because she was a sign of female independence that well, the Bible was very misogynistic and don't wanna empower women readers to be such
@@damnkevindeaderthanamf6068 Is plausible if just going with the newer version of her story. But same time that would mean they would've most likely removed Ruth as well than. But who knows.
No, they cut out her story because they didn't want women to think they were equal to men.
I always liked this more mythological aspect of the Bible. I'm gonna re-read the Book of Enoch.
You do know this and the Book of Enoch are apocryphal, right? Not to mention rather blasphemous.
@Scarlet King Except they’re not. The canonical stories in the Bible actually fit together and honor God not blaspheme against him. In your attempt to seem clever with your non believer views, you just came off as foolish.
@Scarlet King Well for starters, we have eye witness accounts to the events of the gospels, the consistency of the Bible despite being scribed by 40 different authors throughout thousands of years (Which even skeptics of the religion have conceded), and the fact it has had objective truths that ring even today as opposed to the unreliable and subjective standards of the secular world. Furthermore I can’t consider the Lilith story canon, because the earliest findings about her date back to 500 AD, well past the scriptures. Nowhere found in the Dead Sea Scrolls. You can find more evidence from people like Inspired Philosophy.
@Scarlet King Yes I did. You just didn’t accept my answer.
@@KingNazaru but that's already playing into the game of "pick and choose what to say it's canonical or not" of the church, it all jsut makes it look more like a facade when something is excluded just out of convenience
Sooo.......Lilith was the first feminist. It makes so much sense
No. Equating her to feminism is quite insulting as they represent two different things.
Plus Lilith kills women out of spite which contradicts such a conclusion.
@@humanity600 what do they represent I'm curious
@@humanity600 Feminist often use Lilith as beacon of independence plz.
@@humanity600 You lost that argument there.
No wonder.
I’m not sure if you have done this already but if you haven’t, can you do a video on the Greek Goddesses Leto and Asteria?
Is that the one where Asteria (don't know if this is who it is) bragged about having more children than Leto and Artemis and Apollo killed her kids as revenge for their mom?
@@elizabethmadrid405 I'm not sure, I haven't heard that version, the version I heard is that Asteria and Leto were sisters and even though they were Titans, they fought alongside Zeus. Asteria turned into a stork to escape from Zeus who wanted to have his way with her and then turned into an island so Poseidon couldn’t get to her either. She didn’t want to be owned by Zeus or Poseidon, she didn’t want any ties with the land or sea, that they ruled. Asteria’s sister Leto however, wasn’t able to get away from Zeus and became pregnant with Artemis and Apollo, Hera was livid and forbid any land to give refuge to Leto. Leto searched and searched for a place and she was about to give up, when she heard a whisper from Asteria, inviting her to live on her island, as she wasn’t afraid of Hera and she had no ties with the land or the sea and that’s where Artemis and Apollo were born. Asteria is also Hecate’s mother which I think is so cool.
@@elizabethmadrid405 Actually, the woman who bragged about having more children than Leto was Niobe. She's the queen of Thebes.
@@OliviaT-h9p ah. Well then not sure what this is. Only heard three stories involving Leto. The birth of the twins. The peasant into frog over water issue. And the children massacre because of parent bragging thing
More in depth Assyrian mythologies please! As the first empire and civilization, there’s plenty of stories and mythologies to cover in both the Assyrian pagan past and their turn to Christianity. There’s so much more to offer besides the Epic Tale of Gilgamesh and the goddess Ishtar, who was also in the Gilgamesh tale and the Starbucks logo.
The version I read of her story is she refused to submit to Adam and then married Lucifer, which all together means that Lucifer is a bottom
Awesome and cool! ^_^
This is not canonical, it was just a crude attempt to bring a much older Canaanite goddess to Judaism through syncretism
Can you cover the story of Jason and Medea, please?
Medea? She went back to jail. Then she had a big happy family reunion.
@@suburbansadboy9668 LOL! I'm not talking about Tyler Perry's Madea. I'm talking about Medea, the daughter of King Aëetus of Colchis and one of the most powerful sorceresses in Greek mythology.
@@calvinstaley0123 i know, that’s the joke😭🤣
I shouldn't have to clarify this but people these days can't do research to save their lives so:
Lilith is not a true symbol of feminism. Feminism is about women receiving equal rights to men so we complete each other as equals.
Lilith and Adam were more obsessed with who was "above" who, which likely represents authority/power. So she is just as bad as Adam in this scenario as she wants dominance just as much as he does.
Additionally she literally kills women out of spite in various legends, so like...how this conclusion was reached is crazy.
An obsession about who is above who? Some might say that’s what western feminism is all about nowadays🤷🏾♂️
dude... but.....isn't that exactly what feminism has came to nowadays.. lol
Feminism is not about equality. Feminists stand up for womens rights
@@griffiththechad9483 that is, unfortunately, what Western feminism has devolved into. The bad apples have destroyed the whole thing.
@@leysanmusagitova3042 I hope you aren't trying to justify this somehow.
I remember seeing a documentary years ago about when Cain was exiled after killing Abel he met Lilith and had children with her starting the first race of man that was wicked
The vampires, I'm assuming.
So a woman opposing a man is wicked? Lol. Men and their struggle for superiority
The Bible states he married his sister Awan.
@@savvythedivineyethuggable7493like George soros and Klaus Schwab!
So that's the Lilith I that makes an appearance in Neon Genesis Evangelion.
it is also believed that Lilith is the wife of cain after cain was exiled for killing abel , the first murderer and the first women who turned away from her creator
Thus making alot of offspring evil. Thanks lillith and cain
The Bible states Cain married his sister Awan and they left the tribe after he murdered Abel. The mystery is who were the people in the land of Nod.
@@psychedelicpayroll5412 thats why i said old scripts... theres so many versions of the story. other stories tells lilith is married to lucifer and became the mother of demons after getting the seeds of adam
I don’t know wether you all will believe but whatever differences in our religion- Islam, Christianity, Jews, there are so many stories and their origins are similar. Very similar. This means so many roots of our religion come same.
People use religion to cause chaos and of course there are religious fanatics who go to another level. I am not even going to detail them.
That makes more sense...
Furthermore, since the "fall" hadn't occurred yet, Lilith was NOT inferior to Adam. Because of Eve's fall was she told her husband would rule over her, which makes sense because of the rib.
A woman is never inferior to a man but that man has authority over that woman that's God's order and always will be he ordained marriage and he established the standard of marriage and relationship
This is not canonical, it was just a crude attempt to bring a much older Canaanite goddess to Judaism through syncretism
@@elderleon1844 It was also to try to explain things that people saw as too ambiguous in the Bible, like the first chapter of Genesis apparently saying that "woman" was created alongside Adam on the sixth day, but the next one says that it was from Adam's rib on a different day. All in all, I don't think that this particular interpretation should be seen as a negative thing. It doesn't change things too much. The whole thing about Lucifer being Satan is never stated in the Bible and yet is canonical because that's how people understand the context, I don't see why things should be different with Lilith.
@@hineraable In fact, the book of Genesis does not say on which day the woman being made from Adam's rib happened and it does not say that it was on a different day, but rather that everything could have perfectly happened on the same day and it was not said that both were made at the same time, but that they were created on the same day and again it is not said in genesis that the creation of woman was done on another day, and lilith comes from another culture as cultural appropriation so this interpretation is problematic in addition to lucifer and satam being something implicit in the Bible, as in the original text of Ezekiel, makes it clear that he is speaking to more than one person, however Lilith is not even mentioned in the canonical books and appears later as a result of the cultural appropriation of a Phoenician goddess, this in itself already leaves many problems with this interpretation, other than that it reinforces an idea that the Bible does not support because it must be made from Adam's rib and being flesh like yours already induces equality between the two
@@elderleon1844 More lilith appears in the Bible and Judaism in issais
I view Liliths story as cannon imo To me it will make a lot of sense as to how the garden of Eden worked or if Satan came in, comfort her and said he will take her place as the serphent but as long as she became his wife
Lilith's exile was before Lucifer fell though so he had nothing to do with it.
@@MysteriumArcanum I mean if that is what you believe then I will respect it
@@SuperDesmond12 I'm just saying what other people pointed out
Her story doesn't make sense to me, I consider her like a biblical Mary Sue
The name wouldn't make any sense because lilith just means night bird or night creature🦉there she cannot be Adam's first wife❌
Secondly do research
Lilith wasn't born evil
Adam was the reasons she became demonic Lilith deserves better
The problem was that both wished to rule above the other instead of respecting each other as equals, and even then it was her choice to leave Eden and rejected to return there, so in the end was a matter of choice, she did not need to become evil, but desire, egoism, envy, jealeousy and pride domed her, just like Adam and Eve, who whising to be equals to god broke his only law, and ended expeled from Eden to.
That's a funny view of the story you have.
@@truthspreader1996 She literally just wanted to be equal
@@thekodex1186 It's even funnier you believe that.
@@truthspreader1996 it’s EVEN funnier that you believe that too.
Personally, I think Lillith was actually Adam's sister not his wife as she was created in exactly the same time & manner as Adam, which also suggests she was possibly his twin.
Well in that case
Eve was Adam daughter so.
Yeah let just forget that.
No they were created in the same way, that doesn't make them siblings, at least not genetically.
Their relationship might had been siblings.
But it clear that it's not the case and that it was wife/husband relationship.
Or at least trying to be.
But surprise
A woman don't want to be considered as inferior to a Man.
So let's demonise her and blame her for everything like scapegoat.
Christiannity, we had sexism before, but we enforce it (and homophobia/racism too)
I think eve was adams daughter considering she came from his rib.
@@deinsilverdrac8695 boy it's not even like that, scene from how Lilith here was jealous about Adam and Eve being lovey-dovey together. She only got demonized when she did that demonic stuff by closing them to eat the fruits going by the lore here. So she got demonized she wanted to be alone right let her be alone, but she came back and was jealous and then cause them to do something great. Why wouldn't she be demonized.
Could be
@@deinsilverdrac8695 this wasn't the case. it wasn't because she wanted to be equal. It was she did not want to be with Adam for some reasons. Christians aren't homophobic. People just call them homophobic because they don't want to admit that homosexuality is wrong. So they try to make christians look to judgmental but that's not the case. When we notice something is wrong, we don't let it go unnoticed. And as a result people call us intolerable.
I really like the video you did on Valkyrie and I hope to see the origin of Brünnhilde.
Lilith: Doesn’t want to submit to Adam
Also Lilith: Gets Jealous of Adam and Eves love
Honestly that part doesn't make sense to me?
That wasn't canon. She ended up with Samael.
I think 'demon' is an apt description. She rejects any christian hierarchy, thus cannot be a 'devil'.
she was not canon, it was just an atempt of adapt a cananite goddess to judaism
they call any woman who doesnt submit to a guy a demon in the bible
Before lilith there was another woman, but both adam and god were too annoyed by her.
She is far too self entitled, like the whole world owed her, her name was karen.
When she met adam, she immediately asked for the manager.
🤣
This is not canonical, it was just a crude attempt to bring a much older Canaanite goddess to Judaism through syncretism
Yall don't know about the real story, Lilith had three other badass sisters called Agrat Bat Mahlat, Naamah and Eisheth Zenunim
Well not to be that one historical pagan but agrat/adrat lili isn't one entity, they are separate entities. Spirits of unwedded women who were intimate in life but now haunt men in their intimate dreams
Origin of the Prince of Darkness?
What about the part where she married samael and had ashmodai who fathered the rest of incubi and succubi
😕 : Mm..what ? Now I'm confused . First I've read a comment that the rest of the story is she started a family with Cain { who killed Able } and now ... This !? 🧐🤔 She must have married more than once . ♑️✍️🇦🇺🇸🇯
@@Friendship1nmillion Because she is either a myth or we don’t know her real story. Only the Kabbalah mentions her
This is not canonical, it was just a crude attempt to bring a much older Canaanite goddess to Judaism through syncretism
VERY WELL DONE 🙏✍️👍
She's not actually a Jewish myth. A lilith used to be a demon in the ancient world, and a servant of the Babylonian Lamashtu, who was basically exactly the same as the myth of Lilith. Lamia and Obizuth were the same too, and not Jewish. The alphabet of ben sira was satirical and considered blasphemous. It wasn't until later on that the Jews became fascinated by her, and started writing fanfics. I think Lilith can be added to any pagan pantheon, as she's involved in similar fashions just with different names.
THANK YOU!!! FINALLY SOMEONE KNOW THAT!!!!
Good job i love much history mythology I
I feel there is enough to know about Lilith and not enough about what inspired her creation. Lilith was just a plagiarism of older myths. The Demon Goddess Lemashtu predates Lilith and was the main inspiration to her.
I will digress. I'd say that she was inspired by the lilitu instead of lamashtu. As lamashtu wasn't really into seduction and was rather there as a destroyer and killer.
syncretism not plagiarism, this were not fictional characters with copyrights they are religious figures that people believe in, they dont think in they as having copyright or a owner they think in they as real persons so they try to mix diferent narratives as the same big truth what was not aways a sucess since some religions like the judaism have no space for sincretism
I can’t wait to hear about this fascinating story
Lol. The way 'submission' is portrayed is very antagonizing towards Adam within those animations. Like its immediately seen as abusive from him as a man while that doesnt have to be the case at all and is not the meaning behind this. Its her disobedience towards Gods will and and flies over Adams head which is immediate Blasphomy. Adam accepts his role as is without question while she does not and this is where she loses equality as well because she feels she stands above Adam otherwise why question what God has given you. Its an paradox where Lilith will always lose based on her mindset because her not accepting to submit under Adam is an immediate disobedience towards Gods will.
It’s a fictional story , calm down. I’ll humour you If they were made they same way why can’t they be equal. Yes they have ‘different roles’ but if she doesn’t want to then way cant she say no it?
@@mystic_mimi21 lol wow an atheist under a channel about religions
How’s being single doing for ya?
@@mystic_mimi21 if she doesn't want to then she could freely abandon all of God's will, hence she's in exiles, out of God's kingdom
@@Mf-wolf What's wrong with being an atheist but being interested in what other people believe in? Those videos are not only for religious people. Also there are many different versions of the same story. Adam might as well have been abusive towards her...Who really knows? And in the end those are just ficitional stories until the opposite is proven and since there are many versions of the same story proving their credibility is nigh impossible. lol.
I don't think she turned into a demon until eve arrived on the scene.
It's the basic subconscious nature, people turns demonic in a mix of anger, despair and jealousy.
This is not canonical, it was just a crude attempt to bring a much older Canaanite goddess to Judaism through syncretism
Plot twist:- Lilith and Eve met when Lillit being a gorgeous little snake, then they planned to dumify Adam
1:30 LOL@Adam... his eyes are about to pop out 🤣
Adam : BOOOBA! AWOOOGA MOMMY MILKIES JUST HUGE MILKJUGS MASSIVE MAMMARIES TITANIC TIDDIES!
God : *facepalms* Why did I create them?
I didn’t know Lilith was the first woman on Earth.
Im a guy and I enjoy Lilith as being someone who stands up for them self and has alot of courage to stand up against god,angels, and men.
Lol!
Then at the same time got jealous over Adams happiness so she tricked them and later was the creator of succubus and Incubus, yes real courageous.💀
@@thechad7600Just like the Greek mythology, none of this is consistent. There's versions were she gets jealous, there's versions were she ends up with a demon and there's versions were she simply disappears. If anything, the whole "got jealous of the good girl Eve" version just seems made to demeanor the character and say "look what happens to women who don't want to submit to their husbands".
she is not canonical she is just an attempt to mix an older goddess with Judaism
also she do not stand up for equality she want to rule over adam and dominate him like lucifer want to dominate the entire creation
A truly fascinating chick!
This is not canonical, it was just a crude attempt to bring a much older Canaanite goddess to Judaism through syncretism
💛 all your video's mate 👍.
I'm a devotee to Lilith, write about her (2 books so far), and do videos here on youtube. The Jewish story of Lilith comes from the fact that Genesis 1 says that Man and Woman were created at the same time, then Genesis 2 says that Adam was created, he was alone, and later Eve was taken from his side. Lilith is called a demon at that point, but she is also said to be the sometimes consort of father God. Interestingly, she appears first in Mesopotamian mythology as a goddess/demon prior to the Jewish Bible and Midrash.
she is not canonical she is just an attempt to mix an older goddess with Judaism
Genesis 1 does not say that man and woman were created at the same time but that God created man and woman and that's it, it does not say at any point that they were created at the same time
There are many Liliths in today's modern society.
Hail the Mother of the Night 🤘🏽
bruh, anything that isn't canon should not be treated as gospel truth. lilith isn't mentioned in the canonical 66 books of the bible, and will never be. she's merely a folktale, a bed time story for children.
and a pagan one
Lilith, the first Feminist... I don't get it, Adam had a responsibility as a husband, and she had a responsibility as a Wife. Why did she feel she could rebel against God when, in all honesty, life may have been a lot better for her going forward?
If she was jealous of Adam and Eve's relationship, maybe she learned she should've taken the role of the wife that God had planned for her.
I don't think she's been unfairly demonized. Lucifer Rebelled against God (obviously for a different, more heinous reason) and he's demonized, why should Lilith get a free pass? Cause she's a woman? Well ain't that something... says a lot about Feminists.
Charlie Magne: *Thats my mom!*
Lillith was wrong. She was not a feminist but toxic. I get that the Bible have misogyny in it but Adam played his roles, she didn't, that's where she was wrong
How though?
Adams main purpose was to make Lilith pregnant so mankind could reproduce
Not to get nsfw, but their are many ways that it could have been done. Adam could have just enjoyed it while Lilith was being the dommy mommy
Sweet , my kinda girl .
♡
she is not canonical she is just an attempt to mix an older goddess with Judaism
Thanks for the video
Nothing about Lilith is mentioned in the Quran, as far as I know; but, from the words of Prophet Muhammad PBUH, there's a creature that caused disease like fever and such, and she's called "Ummi Mildam".
As to why she's called "Ummi" (mother), it might be an indication that she's connected to our Father, Prophet Adam... But, is she really Lilith? Only Allah and His Messengers know.
Why does the Quran called everyone a prophet?
@@psychedelicpayroll5412 Because the term "prophet" can be applied to anyone.
Shekinah is also mentioned in the Quran, so I'm quite surprised.
Portland, JAMAICA in the Building !!!
Good timing bringing this out right when The Sandman finished airing which showed us Mazikeen of Illim who was liliths daughter in comics
As for me Lilith did nothing wrong.
Disobeying God is wrong and such an act never ends well.
I love how Lillith is embraced and the poster girl of feminists. She is the perfect picture for them in modern era's. Claiming to be a strong independant woman, then ruining everything for others out of jealousy, hatred etc.
She is the perfect poster girl for fourth wave feminists. XD
Exactly
As a jewish we believe that in the end she married with the Satan... and Eve gave to Adan the apple because she was afraid that she will die. and he will merry with another woman. like what happened to Lilith.
So she is the mother of all demons.
I congratulate Lilith for giving women fair share of equality, keep on fighting
Am still having a strong belief that it was satan who made the serpent in the garden of eden
The tales saying Lilith was the first wife of Adam is apocrypha. In other words, non canon falsehoods.
Or in a more amicable manner, it's called a fanfic.
No it’s in the Kabbalah. It’s not in the apocrypha. In the Adam and Eve have their story extended where they beg to get back in the garden and God had to bring them back to life because they kept committing suicide. It also shows them experiencing darkness for the first time and how the cherub who witnessed the entire incident had to convince God not to destroy them.
@@psychedelicpayroll5412 No I meant apocryphal as in not a trustworthy source.
@@KingNazaru Oh gotcha.👌
@@KingNazaru There's no real difference between biblical canon and apocrypha. Just because the former has the approval of some old dudes from centuries ago doesn't make them any more valid than the latter.
Can you please make a remake story of the Nephilim
Ohh damm this myth is my fave
It always brings me great perplexity when someone names their daughter Lilith...
Another way to look at it is it is a name that is associated with a strong female who may be considered a goddess, and did not consider herself inferior to anyone else.
@@hiromitailor8075 That's a bit of a stretch.
Wait I thought lucifer took the role of the serpent in the garden, Bc I’m pretty sure in the Bible it said satan was the one that tricked Eve into eating the forbidden fruit
If I understand it correctly, Lilith is considered a folkloric figure, and because she does not appear in the Book of Genesis Christians do not consider her historically "canon".
@@hiromitailor8075 yea im a christian she was never mentioned in the bible if I remember especially in the book of Genesis
@@hiromitailor8075 I focus on God Heaven Jesus Mother Mary all them more then I do on lucifer
I’m sure men rewrote the story of Lilith as they wanted to see it. Women’s independence was inconvenient to them so they just demonised her
Wow, everything has to be political correctness now, now doesn't it. First, it's your whining, then this channel paints Adam as abusive.
@@savvythedivineyethuggable7493 expect they aren't really wrong. Sexism was really bad back in those days. Women were not only considered inferior to men, in most societies they were considered property. The way ISIS treated its women and how they made and treated slaves is actually very similar to how society was when the Old and New testament was written.
Lilith sound like Captain Marvel. Very independent. I'm surprised such story even existed thousand of years ago considering the society back then suppress women too much. Even for a folklore it is incredible that back then someone do wish women to have a stronger presence in society.
more like a story to scare women about rebelling against their husbands.... 🥴
"Lilith sound like Captain Marvel"
That is quite the leap don't you think!?
“Unfairly demonized”
Dude you got horns on your head cmon Lilith
If Lilith was created from clay in the same manner as Adam, and was a demon, what does that make Adam?
Human.... "Fight your demon so you fall to sins"
she is not canonical she is just an attempt to mix an older goddess with Judaism
Actually,from what I heard, god send 3 angels to bring Lilith back to Eden, but when she refused, the angels cursed her that all her children be stillborn or be killed young.
That why Lilith in revenge kills/steals others babies.
Add in the Babylon please to cover all of Lilith story. Thank you
hebrew mythology's roots were taken from earlier mythologies. i am sure earlier creation myths contain stories similar to the garden. christianity's mythology is loosely translated jewish myths
The first wife of Adam and the first demon so carzy I love thdi story
Lilith might be the goddess Lalitha. She's portrayed sitting on her husband Shiva and like Lilith, she is shown with two lions. She's also known as Tripura sundari, the patronage of three cities which her husband Shiva destroyed. These cities might be outside India.
Wow that was amazing! Lilith is amazing. She's an icon hun.
Good for her.
No. Disobeying God is not a good thing. Whether you believe she was real or not, her actions were not good. Understand the story better and you will see why she was in the wrong and Adam and God were in the right.
@@andrewyerian214 I'm good. Thanks, though.
She deserves better 😢
Lilith lowkey is a W...
Nah she's in L
Can u do African mythology
Ngl Lilith's a baddie fr.
Lilith by all means tragic is still kinda dumb using Lilith as your Banner feminist movement
Do you know what’s “kinda dumb” people taking the bible seriously and believing it’s real. When it was written, edited and created by and for upper class males who owned slaves and married 13 year old girls. Who only created it and churches to control people and keep their wealth
She's not really tragic at all. She blatantly was like "I'm better than the person who is essentially my husband, I don't care what he says, and I know better than the god of the universe, and ruined the world all because I was jealous of a healthy relationship I could have easily had."
@@savvythedivineyethuggable7493 No Lillith wanted to be equal to Adam because they were created the same time and same ways
Do you have the story of Napoleon
They really hated women back in the day.
GO LILITH!!!!
No💀
Another feminist supporting it's masters, hilarious
Hollywood has all the stories
NOWI DONT FEEL SHE WAS BAD, AND THIS STORY ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE as to THE BEGGINIG
Bygvvir from Norse Mythology. I'd love to have more than the tiny bit from the Prose Edda.
Can you do Jason and the argonauts
Were Lilith husband's Samuel
I thought it was Lucifer
Samael
@@FantasmaOlvidado1 yes that what I mean samael
@@theblackcomrade surprisedly not. God personally give samael away to be Lilith husband and end up having many babies. Lucifer became involve in conflict with God little after God floated the earth. Making samael the father of demon
@@majesticgothitelle1802 Thanks for letting me know. I never knew that about Samael.
I find it kinda of interesting that in comedy show Fraiser; his wife who is Jewish is named Lilith and her relationship with him is, how shall we say it, Testy?
Girl power lilith.
she is not canonical she is just an attempt to mix an older goddess with Judaism
also she do not want equality in the mith she want to rule over adam and over the entire humanity
Well considering I’ve never met a feminist who isn’t a horrible person I think it’s fair to call her the 1st one lol
I love Lilith
she is not canon, she was just a atempt to mix the judaism with an older pagan goddess, also she want to rule over adam, she never want to be equal to him
@@elderleon1844 that i know but i find her interesting,
But I mean didnt Adam did the Same Not thinking as equal? So both are Not really really seeing as that
Adam and Steve
Lilith is Sumerian, so her myth actually predates the Abrahamic creation myth.
If I was Lilith I would go back to the garden of eden❤❤😊
This is a very common name in Armenia
I thought Gadreel was the Fallen Angel transformed serpent that made her eat the fruit, now i truly don’t know 🤔
Wonder how many children Adam and Lilith birthed.
Zero!
How very ironic this story is.....