How To Bookmatch a Guitar Top Using a Shooting Board
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- Welcome back to Crimson Guitars and another Mini-Torial with Ben Crowe. This week, Ben demonstrates how to bookmatch a guitar top using a shooting board.
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You don't have to be a guitar maker to appreciate your content, Ben. There's plenty of useful things helping guitarist to better understand their instrument. Such is my case.
This!!!Also, it helped me (after about 3+ years of watching Ben) to take up my first real woodworking project and built an amp head!!!!!You never know!
I've used the Maskingtape-Glue method to fix my acoustic panels to the door. Nothing else nonpermanent worked.
THERE ARE FEW THINGS MORE SATISFYING THAN WHEN A HAND PLANE IS SET UP PERFECTLY AND YOU GET THOSE NICE CLEAN AND CRISPY PASSES. I'VE GONE THROUGH MANY A CROOKED 2BY4 JUST PRACTICING MY TECHNIQUE AND SHARPENING SKILLS. PROBABLY MY FAVORITE PART OF THE BUILD, DIMENSIONING THE LUMBER IS SO GRATIFYING.
Thanks much. I don’t have a joiner so I needed this video for courage because my boards are too nice to screw up.
I basically just watched this to bring back the memories...I look forward to seeing what you're going to make with the burl tops! Ben, did you see the final pictures of our guitars that I sent to Shaun? We are very happy with them!
you own my like when you said to drop my friends to spend more time on luthiery stuff.... lol! nice content as always! thanks, ben! (and crew!)
Yes im number 500 like! Thanks again for my new Crimson Centre rule! shipped to Canada in a week with free stickers! AWESOME
Always informative, interesting and executed flawlessly, Ben. Subscribed and watching intently, thank you!
I believe Ben needs an on-call fire extinguisher man whenever he's handling fire.
Love these videos of yours Ben. They are always informative and professionally produced and edited. I have learned so much from watching your tutorials. In fact I've learned more from you than anyone or anywhere else. I look forward to your videos very much..... However lol....... When I'm sat down and looking forward to learning something else, it can be a little annoying when you loose focus and go off on a tangent leaving me waiting, patiently, anxiously for the promised tutorial. Apart from that your videos are awesome. One day I will have some spare money in my bank account. I will be in touch with you to design my very own custom Crimson Guitar. Made by you and with your permission I will spend a little time watching you do your luthier thing..... One day my friend. I've promised myself..
Best line I've heard in a long time: "Who needs a social life when you have a workshop?"
Great video, thanks for the details!
Very good video as usual Ben. I have been a custom cabinet maker ie furniture 30yrs I have made & used alot of shooting boards & planes, I learned a long time ago Simple is best I have always used an impeccable sharp #4 or #5 plane My joints fit butt ass tight hardly no clamp pressure just as you said. So I say Ben sell the bloody shooting plane. Love your vids from USA.
I would love to go on your guitar building course but I've never used a power tool. Well there was that time i used a drill but we never talk about that.
Best device in a workshop? A decent ruler... beyond a shadow of a doubt.
In his video on restoring a bench plane, Paul Sellers remarks in passing that for jointing the cheeks of the plane don't need to be square to the sole. I haven't found out what he does when they aren't: what do *you* do?
BTW, re that Veritas jointing plane, "not expensive" = damn near 300 quid. I'll stick to my N° 6.
Final question: how flat does the plane sole have to be? I've got mine to the point where toe & heel are bright & shiny, and in between the felt-tip marks have been sanded to peely-wally grey but are still visible. I've gone through ~3 metres of 120-grit and I'm fed up.
Thank you for another fantastic video!
I think it's best if I don't go near a plane again.
On the instrument I'm currently working on, I planed a hump into my wood and then I worked out that by the time I've made it flat again it wouldn't be wide enough anymore.
So the solution I came up with was to add another piece of wood in the middle.
I cut a piece of maple and put it through the planer thicknesser (because that can plane wood properly). Then when it was down to the size I needed I used it as a template to route the edges of the wood I was using for the body.
The three pieces fit together perfectly :)
you need the "who needs a social life when you have a workshop on tshirts and mugs
I'd buy one of those!
Excellent video. Keep it up!
Thank you! That was just what i needed 🙂
prefer this kind of video so much compared to that one with no talking for the cross inlay. if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Mikail Elchanovanich i like them both to be honest
the other has it's merits, but i come here for Ben's personal take on techniques, digressions, enthusiasm for tools, it's been part of the style of this channel from the beginning.
For speed and because I don't own a number 7, I superglue and masking tape the sides face to face with the edges as close as poss, then fix to a reference joint and run a flush trim router bit along it. Close enough for rock 'n' roll.
Welcome to Crimson Guitars And My Side Gig Is Selling Vintage tools!
If you dont want to buy a number 7 or 8 or cant justify the cost for a one time build, the sandpaper leveling beam is ideal.
"Who needs a social life when you have a workshop!" Im going to frame that and put it up in my workshop.
Excellent video! Daft question but what so of clamps are they?
June 08, 2022: I just bought a Guild D-150CE Westerly Collection Dreadnought Acoustic-Electric Guitar Natural ($1,049.00 + tax). this is a nice sounding all solid wood guitar. But, one side of the top is a lighter color than the other side. I would think if I was truly book-matched, then it would be the same color. What do you think? If it is book-matched, then why are two different shades?
Forgive my ignorance - and I'm a luthiery pre-novice, so the ignorance is strong in this one - but why is the 'centre' side not made perfectly flat and square prior to slicing the block to create the two halves? Would this be a better way to ensure a perfect centre match, particularly for flamed and quilted wood, that often show a clear discontinuance and a too obvious centre line on the top? Have I missed something, or, much more likely, what have I missed? Cheers.
Keith Wallis assuming your cut is perfectly square yes. However a band saw, particularly when splitting wide planks like this cuts at a slight curve. And wood this thin bends by itself very fast.
Birki gts Makes sense. Thanks for explaining :-)
Just wondering do u also do left handed guitars be awesome to do one
Great video and talk through Ben, awesome, thank you. What type of glue do you prefer to use?
Paul Mathias I believe he's quite fond of Alcolin wood glue, they're owned by Titebond.
Ah, cheers Joe, thank you for the info. Much appreciated.
What's the music at the beginning of the video ?
I only have #6's, end of the world if they are well set up?
Would the levelling beam not be more accurate. And it also removes less material ?
Ian MacPherson It works just as well as a plane. Only problem you get is when you're jointing anything thicker than a drop top, you'd need a very wide leveling beam, and the thicker the board, the longer it takes with a leveling beam.
A plane iron leaves a much cleaner finish and with practice is much quicker than sandpaper. A plane can remove very little material when set up to.
The doubling up of the boards in a bookmatch is done to make everything less critical to the joint being out of square. On thin boards, like those of an acoustic guitar top, it can be hard to measure if you are perfectly square.
Hey! Where can I get these clamps? Great!
Is that Bill Bailey.?
"This is the best thing to have when building a guitar!" -Ben about everything...
Does anyone know where I can get these clamps in Canada?
Hi Ben, are the levelling beams machined precisely enough to give you that 90 degree finish you demonstrated in the video?
I can answer this one as I've got a bunch of them. No, they're not. They're close, but they vary and they're not consistent.
A1BASE I suppose the way around it would be to flatten 1 of the book-matched sheets, flip the levelling beam round and flatten the other sheet. Then whatever inaccuracy is on the levelling beam, it will be cancelled out when sheets are glued together. Does it make sense?
I can see where you're coming from, but how do you work out where your 'parts' stop and start. Sounds pretty inaccurate to me.
My solution was to go to a local kitchen counter supplier, tell them your problem and ask if they might have something like a 6x2 inch offcut (or longer) with a 90 degree edge you could have. I bet you they give you 3 or 4... ;)
attach sand paper to that and you have a 90 degree edge that cant move.
While we're talking about freebies, my dentist gives me old dental burrs for free. They're carbide or diamond tipped, autoclaved so they're sterile and more than sharp enough for wood or shell. They use them once then thrown them out...
Instant engraving / inlay toolset.
Wait, you weren't lining up your material with the stop on the shooting board, how are you preventing spelching?
One day Ben will make a video without being sidetracked.
And then we die XD LOL
Question! why are guitar tops in general almost always two piece bookmatched? Is there a reason why we don't really see one piece tops?
Mitch people prefer the look of a symmetrical top. And planks wide enough for a 1 piece top are not nearly as common.
Birki gts interesting. so it's not a structural thing. I'm not saying I don't like bookmatched tops, I've just always wanted to try and find a one piece if I was going to do a build. probably nearly impossible to get though I guess.
Well, it depends on what specie you're looking for and what shaped body, but generally yes, very hard to find.
A single piece wide enough to cover a guitar top with any quality of figure would be ridiculously expensive!
A video about book matching and not one word about grain alignment or back lighting the joint to make sure it's tight?
Dane Nichols Well we do now.
Thank you, Ben, for great videos! I can only understand your speech, about 95%, while absolutely do not understand what other members of your team are saying. Ask them to speak more clearly! Especially Christopher - I do not take a word from him :-(
Helps to have a sporty Stanley skew iron shooter like that, but I suppose it can be done with the old Bailey. Yawn.
Now then, I am to wood working what Donald Trump is to running a country. I like to have a crack at it but I really shouldn't.
However... if a skewed mouth plane is preferable but you don't have one, would it help if the part of the shooting board that the piece of wood rests on was angled like a ramp. So the part where you start planing, being the bottom of the ramp, is thinner and would go up to normal height? Does that make sense (even if it's wrong does what I am describing make sense?).
It seems to me that making a new shooting board would be cheaper than a new plane.
KingBollock Short answer: yes and they do make those. Problem is that it limits the thickness of material you can use because geometry.
YOU MUST BE THE BEST WOOD WORKER EVER IF YOU ARE COMPARING YOURSELF TO PRESIDENT TRUMP!
If you fingers aren't getting sticky then your doing it wrong!
William Byrd that's what she said :P
14:38 I agree
😂 is it weird that I am watching this even though I don't have any freaking idea on what he is really talking about?
Not really. He talks about wood and everyone likes a bit of good wood now and then.
Nah, not at all. You'll eventually learn what he's talking about just by watching. For me, he's replaced Norm Abrams' New Yankee Workshop for my entertainment. I love watching people woodworking.
kronos6948 Don't forget the most important safety rule....... safety glasses. Good ole Norm!
well, I knpw anlittle bit about guitats and I can play guitar but yeah these things are just too advance for me
I thought that too so I bought a Guitar 2 weeks ago and a 12 string build it yourself kit.
Now I have 2 guitars and can't play XD
Hi Ben, you might find this method interesting : th-cam.com/video/yZaeuRQYdog/w-d-xo.html. In particular the 'joining without clamps' method from time index about 12:00.
well your channel has made me think making good guitars out of scrap old gitfiddles that also sound good unfortunately I had a stroke about 8 years ago but I can't remember how to play as well as I USED to do I can't remember how to play the blues rifts and finger pick I have an sg standard by epiphone the paint work is kack bush lines plus 2 Japanese lawsuit guitars the columbus les paul and an les paul sg I have Seymour Duncan humbuckers and polyweb strings I damaged the head stock don't know to paint it or touch up the head stock or Plasti dip it would love a plane wood finish it's a black beauty les Paul from Japan. the sg standard yes I would love a plane wood finish and convert the head stock to a Gibson
what you think I worked for immigration the rodesian / zimbabwe people were the best an very polite and manerly got loads of contacts for breaks might be my neck though not racist but would go to the white family's as I value my life
I started with Woodprix plans.
this video would have been useful two weeks ago
Hi
Thanks for all what you're doing.
Where can i buy those tops? please. Nikitta.com?
Thanks again for your Videos, and the positive feeling that you are transmitting.
So all you need is some scrap wood and a $400 - $600 plane! Simples!
I'll stick to my Sears jointer....
www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/no-7-plane
lol - that is absolutely the least expensive No. 7 I've ever seen.
Do you ever say oh I say as you sound really poss my missus thinks you are I think your from southern hemisphere
He is from Zimbabwe.