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Is Robocop 2 The BEST Sequel Ever Made? - Film Review/Video Essay
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Hey do you like film reviews, video essays, retrospectives, and memes? Well you've come to the right place! Today ya boi has worked on a huge video review for the hit film Robocop 2 which may be the greatest sequel ever made. I hope you found the review fun, entertaining, and informative. Thanks for watching!
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I remember so vividly watching this as a kid and being scared absolutely shitless of Cain. That scene where he kills everyone in the warehouse was terrifying. Seven was probably too young to see this for the first time...
When Cain cut that cops chest open.
@@ashdoglsu dude... That was legit disturbing. Making the kid watch. So fucked up. Great movie.
Yup Duffy chest scene and Kane scenes ,I was 4 when I seen this lol
@@Djp2987 ditto
I was around 5 years old when I saw the first one and somewhere around 7 for the second one.
Not as good as the first one, but a worthy sequel.
Loved how they turned the "good old man" from the previous movie into someone just as an asshole as Dick, showing how there are no "good guys" in corporations as OCP.
The whole "anyone can buy our stocks, there is nothing more democratic than that" is an amazing line, one of the best in the series.
The satire on parents's reactions to the first movie is fantastic, so is Frank Miller's cameo which took me decades to notice.
Also, the new design! A lot of people still complains about how they changed Robocop's color, why? He is a cop, of course he has to be blue!
A great movie, underrated, even by the franchise's creator.
No the kid was terrible so was the main villain the score sucked blue outfit shitty
The robocop 1 suit also had a blue tint, but the film stock used didn't allow the tint to really show up.
Your comment reminds me of the time when I used to work for DIck Jones.
Come on man...there is no good people in a corporation? You don't really believe that nonsense right? There is good and bad everywhere in this world from the highest heights of the financial hierarchy to the lowest low. I happen to know two men that worked in big pharma (surgeons and board members) that helped me out as a kid for free. They saved my life and didn't ask my family for one red cent. They didn't publicize it when they had the chance and were apart of my life until I was well into my 20's. Without them or their expertise...I would either be dead or completely disabled. Because of them I am able to work with disabled children. So please...not all corporate climbers are bad people.
It only seems that way because the media at large has painted that picture for years. No, you want to talk about pure Dick Johnson's look at the media. Every corner of mass media is filled with scum. Robocop 1 and 2 are incredible films.
Well, in the first one OCP were not seen as good guys either. When the ED-209 killed one of the executives in the demonstration, they only cared about the time and money wasted producing the robot, particularly the old man. They couldn't care less that someone was just massacred.
The ending is abrupt but absolutely perfect. Murphy struggles with his humanity the entire movie and is literally reprogrammed to not be human, and its not until the end when we know, that he knows, with that single perfect line, "Patience Louis, we're only human." Gets me everytime 😢
Him using that socket wrench to remove his helmet is the perfect touch. He’s completely made peace with his reality of being both man and machine.
*_RoboCop 2_* will always be a favorite of mine since I was a lil kid. It may not be as perfect as the first film, but I do love how it focuses more on the themes of corporate corruption and how OCP and the Mayor fight over control over the city, and the lengths OCP are willing to go to achieve their goals, even if it means using a psychopathic drug lord for a new RoboCop model. And RoboCain was badass, he's like a walking tank, all thanks to Phil Tippet's amazing go-motion effects, something we will never see again in the age of CGI. That and the final battle between Murphy and RoboCain was one of the best robot fights in cinema history. "You're coming with me, Cain." And Leonard Rosemann's music score is amazing to listen to.
Good video! The great thing about RoboCop 2 that most don't pick up on is how it's basically poking fun at the idea of sequels and trying to top the original. OCP is trying to make a successor to RoboCop that's better in every way, but they can't. It also satirizes how companies water down their R-rated properties to make them family friendly, with RoboCop becoming family friendly to make the corporate interests happy.
However, I do feel Robo and Lewis don't have as much character development. Lewis feels more like a sidekick and the movie quickly abandons the idea of exploring RoboCop's humanity after the scene between him and his former wife. Despite this, I still love RoboCop 2.
Yeah, missed oportunity, Murphy just acepts how things are, and just move on.
I heard for years the studio changed A LOT from the original Frank Miller script, maybe they originally explored that?
there is a comic book that adapts the original script. its a mix of robocop 2 and 3, i s very good but still prefer the movie
@@Jose-se9pu I have the graphic novel of his original script....& its not very good. I loved how Murphy accepted the way things were, so his family could start moving on, & so dealing with that wouldn't slow down an otherwise very intense film.
I mean murphy by all means should be dead. He wouldnt be alive without ocp so its really out of his control to do anything but accept his situation. He gave his wife closure despite his lingering feelings.
That’s a cop out pun intended
Robocop 2 is one of the best sequels ever made. To be honest I don't think a lot of people understand it, and that's why it gets hated on. I'm glad I'm not the only one who puts it up there with Aliens, T2, and Godfather 2 as the best sequels ever made. And for the record, I dig the way you edited the original score into the outro into the credit. That worked really well imo.
I totally agree. And I like how it dared to be different, both in atmosphere and music, and that it was quite ballsy and un-P.C.
What would have made sense is Robocop remaining grey until he's torn apart by Cain's gang and the rebuild makes him more a softer, friendlier police officer blue by corporate committee (should have been a throwaway line in that board room scene). But Kershner, Miller and Company are no Verhoeven, Miner, Neumeier, on their best day.
Leonard Rosenman has the thankless job of following up Basil Pouledoris. A job he was destined to fail at, and forever be second best. The Robocop 2 theme is more optimistic and heroic, when Robocop's original first music score is supposed to be somber, cyberpunk, & dystopian.
Robocop 2 is too bright, too shiny, too clean, and not bloody enough to be a great sequel.
It's merely okay.
🇺🇸Robocop 2 is very underrated movie. I love both parts.
And they never made anything after 2. Nope nothing nada.
Robocop 2 was one of the best Sequels I've ever seen. 3 was a slap in the face to this awesome Sequel.
Yeah, Robocop 3 was terrible -- but probably had the best soundtrack out of all 3 films. Basil took the first movie's soundtrack and cranked it up to an 11.
You're mistaken. They never made a third one. You just dreamt it, or it's the Mandela effect or something and I refuse to accept otherwise.
i used to shit myself over robocain, even today he is still scary as fuck, his introduction in that warehouse...my god.
That warehouse sequence is the crown jewel of Robocop 2. Nothing stands out more than that scene. It has everything. Chills, thrills, suspense, action, emotion, tragedy. When I think of Robocop 2 it's the first scene I think of.
Great review. Love seeing Robocop content. Definitely agree that the sequel is good. However, I think the original Robocop is one of the greatest films ever made. The perfect balance of 80s B movie mixed with actual thought provoking commentary that's still relevant today. Robocop 2 is good but I think it lacks the satirical wit and soul of the original. The best sequel ever made I think is probably The Dark Knight. Even though I think Batman Begins' grit and atmosphere is far better.
Well said
@@ashdoglsu Thank you very much. I encourage the spread of the Gospel of Robocop.
Robo2 predicted the real life bankruptcy of Detroit....The Dark Night doesn't go five minutes w/out a plot hole at any point.
@@whaddyathink949 What plot holes?
Most overlooked sequel of all time is Young Guns II.
Robocop 2 is criminally underrated.
Putting a criminal’s brain in a killing machine is the dumbest idea ever.
Great that this movie is getting re-appraised. Excellent sequel. Crueler, more violent than the original, but also goes deeper into the themes of the original flick. 10/10 easy for me.
I always watch these 2 back to back. It's a must for me. It's funny how this movie predicted it's own future. Watered down, filtered again, represented with corporate messages... Would someone please electrocute this franchise!
Hopefully the game being made is a nice sequel
@@britishwordplay4335
Idk if you’ve played it yet but I’m playing it now and I think it’s a fantastic sequel worthy of being the continuation from 1-2
This Franchise is screaming out to be made into a video game. The robo cop game for the Amiga was so cool. Cyberpunk genre . It would be amazing!
I hope I don't disrespect anyone else's opinion, but I personally didn't think RC2 was even 10% what the first film was. Awesome practical effects, but lacking in every other area. Still enjoyed watching this video though!
It had great moments but clearly fell short of the first IMO. Climax being a 35 min action scene felt very, very odd.
A few notes;
They should have had Lewis get blasted almost to death heroically helping Murphy and then make her the first truly successful 2nd RoboCop. They should have had Murphy's son make the effort at the end to see him to tease his full return to humanity.
Then RoboCop 3 is about parenting. He parent/mentors Lewis in her transition to cyborg and rediscovers how to parent his son.
This movie gets a lot of unwarranted shit. I don’t like it better than the first one, but it deserves more credit than it gets. Either way, great video man
The ending really hurt this movie; It was a bizarre 30 minute bullet fest. Using more of that time to further the story and cutting the climax to
IMO, he starts the movie aggressive sounding, his voice gets less robotic, almost cartoony after the reprogramming and, by the end of the movie, hes back to a more normal human voice.
I agree the lack of the original theme hurt it’s value but I heard the lack of follow up to his stalking his family when he was human parts were edited out by Orion
I was genuinly shocked when I saw you only have 711 (make that 712) subscribers. This is the kind of quality I'd expect from a channel with tens of thousands of subs. Severely underrated channel.
Finally someone who appreciates this movie as much as I do .
Holy shit how does this channel only have 50 subs, your content is amazing dude. Def gained another subscriber and I'm excited to see this channel grow.
He’s got 243 now!
I really appreciate your analysis of the continuity. I hate when some movies' only continuity is the main character.
Thanks fam!
the first one was better, it had the Verhoven signature with that surreal, almost comedic violence
Well done. These are wonderful films. Casting and writing was superb.
Such a great sequel even though nothing beats the first one. I really enjoyed number 2.
This is my first introduction to your channel and I'm glad I found you. What a great run down and commentary. I can't wait to watch more.
RoboCop 2 forgot what made the original special. It just tried to outdo it on the violence and came across as mean spirited.
I think this movie was underrated by the critics in general. It has pretty much all of the first movie. Same main cast (those who survived the first movie lol), a completely new original score, as entertaining as the first one, good plot etc. The only thing that gets Robocop 2 away from being great or as good as the first movie it's his lack of real emotions. You don't feel the sadness, the darkness, the vengeance feeling and the madness of all the many villains. Cain is the only great villain of the movie. Everybody around him seems to act like puppies or having no personality.
22:16 Thats a motorcycle for kids it got extra sidewheels to keep its balance
I loved Hob in Robocop 2. Did you know that Hob's sub machine-gun is real and it's even cooler than you may think? It is a UC-M21 (real name DEB-M21)folding machine gun. It was designed to look like a handheld portable radiolike they used in the late 1980's. It has a quick release latch that enables the weapon to go from inanimate object to dealer of death in one motion. It can fold back together with one simple motion as well...I want one!
Fun Fact: The DEB-M21 has now been redesigned to resemble a portable hard drive but functions just the same. It fires a 9x19mm round from a detachable 30 round Uzi magazine. It's cyclic rate is 650-850 rounds per minute. As of the making of Robocop 2 there is one UC-M21 and 8 DEB-M21's in private collections.
Fun Fact #2- You can purchase a real life Auto 9 (Robocop's gun) from Collection Werks. We're talking a fully functional custom handgun built to spec.
Ghostbusters 2 is just as great as the first
Whenever I think back on RoboCop 2, there are moments that come to mind immediately that make me smile or make me think how clever they are. Then I rewatch the film and . . . it just doesn't cohere for me as a story. It feels like a bunch of interesting ideas jumbled together with a shoddy structure, and the tone is more cartoony than satirical like the Verhoeven original. Still, not the worst sequel in the world. They tried at least.
yep. they are clearly trying to make a "robocop" movie. they don't quite hit the mark, but you can see the effort
Loved your changes to adding his theme in a couple iconic moments. You are 100% right.
i wanted more from the family side. like maybe they work it in so that the wife see's that he's still Murphy, but their family can still never be whole again. he wouldn't have to lie to her and she could still move on
Considering the Christ references in the original Robocop, seeing him on a motorbike defines the saying 'Christ on a bike' 😂
I feel like Hobb & T2 John Conner were terrible influences on us as kids. They were so cool...
Still playing Rogue City, I love it and think it continues 2 fantastically. If you play it I’d love to hear your thoughts on how it continues the 1-2 films.
It is interesting how while violent af 2 definitely has less actual blood yet some critics claimed 2 was overly violent? Like did they even see 1 lmao?
I’m really glad you made this video. I didn’t agree with everything but your analysis was so great.
Robocop does absolutely have the greatest them ever. There’s a 27 second clip or Robos first ride on TH-cam and I could watch it on loop. The first time it comes on is pure cinema magic.
Does anyone else get the urge to want to try Nuke? It looks awesome lol
It definitely is up there in the top 5. If I come up personally have never seen godfather part 2 but from what I hear that would be pretty hard to beat.
I would buy this movie reedit if they added "Riding Dirty"
Your editing style and humor is second to none. 😏
I'm not sure if this is such a great movie. But it definitely contains one of the greatest insults ever said on film:
"Go f**k a refrigerator, peckerneck!!!" :))))
I'm gonna keep this simple.
EXCELLENT review!
EVERYTHING you pointed out is poignant and COMPLETELY on point.😁
BRAVO!!!
I thank you.
Other flaws is having all kids in this movie shown as unlikable characters is extremely unbelievable.
Very dumb that Cain decides to play Chicken with Robocop because he can’t win.
Also easily the worst flaw is Robocain a great villain is highly absent in the movie.
Because he has 2 action scenes.
The 1 in the warehouse, and the climax scene.
Terminator 2: Judgement Day and Spider Man 2 are the two best sequels ever made in My opinion
Peter Weller was 99% in this movie, something small was missing. All the corporate stuff has always been really hamfisted after the original.
Agreed. The one thing that really bugged me was the fact that OCP and the Old Man's stern, no-nonsense visions for OCP were half-lobotomized and had the missing chunks replaced with hamfisted "corporations bad!!!!" and half-baked Yahtzee imagery.
It would've been more interesting if the Old Man and Johnson's rivalry were much more apparent and it was the latter who ended up presenting RoboCop 2 in proper.
I agree with a lot of what you say about Robocop 2. However i feel like it lacks some of the substance that the 1st movie had. However I love how strong and resilient they show Murphy to be. Its Murphy who flings them off a 100 story building crashes through the street and is still the 1st to get up as well as after the gas line explosion. I donwish they explored his humanity a little more or had a closer connection to Cain.
28:40 murphy reverts to robotic speech after they fix him between parts 1 and 2
"We're only human."
It sounds like he destroyed Kelly's skull, but no, he only broke her neck lol
It's pretty damn underrated. The crack-addicted robot speaks for itself
Couldn't agree more!!!
... and empire strikes back? This man knows his sequels
Robocop 2 is closer to the problems you see in real life. OCP is like Blackrock
Unpopular vote...Desperado.
Honestly I'm surprised by the lack of blood. The first robocop was super gory. Wonder why they toned it down it in the second one? Not like it made it less intense. I remembered the kill scenes to scary as ever. But oh well I was hoping the CGI held up in the second but nah it didn't.
Lack of blood?did u see the movie??
I like the part about the theme song. So true. It's a wild west gunslinger type of theme. Never even occurred to me it was missing from the second film.
the first iteration was referenced in the reboot
Holy smokes, the (second) dude in the Magnavolt ad was Lionel Luther from Smallville!
The commercials and random cutaways were hilarious. What really takes the cake is the Roadrunner sfx during the end fight. >_
Best sequel ever is Terminator 2 Judgement day yo!
BEFORE WATCHING: no, its not the best sequal ever obviously because John Wick 2 and 3 exsist, also, Robocop was the best it was ever going to be, Robocop 2 was good, but not better than the first!
AFTER WATCHING:
everything i said was right :D good video, love that people still love this movie as much as i do after all this time!
I loved Robocop 2. Two questions though:
1. For what reason did OCP feel they had to create a Robocop 2 in the first place?
2. Why did RoboCain flip out and kill Angie after it seemed like they were reconnecting?
Biggest issue with robo cop 2 is ...NO BASIL POLEDOURIS. HOW DO THEY NOT PAY HIM TO BRING THE GREATEST HERO THEME EVER.... in fact Robocop 3 ...the only thing they did right was that theme. Lol
I do like RoboCop 2 a lot, Peter Weller really outdoes his performance in the first. Sometimes it can feel like it's all edge with no point, as you might expect with Frank Miller, but for the most part they do a great job continuing the world of RoboCop. My biggest problem is the ending, all the corrupt guys get away with it and Robo's final line doesn't feel significant
Yes! Add Aliens as a respectable #2.
Awesome analysis, specially in the corporated greed and the Robocop theme
Thank you! Hope you enjoyed the review!
Yeah Robocop 2 and Predator 2 are highly underrated. Robocop 2 was definitely more of an action film and a serviceable sequel. Cain was like a Hunter Killer from The Terminator future war in that warehouse scene.
I love how Nancy Allen played this. She is everybit a cop. Her motivation was to be a partner, and not just a sidekick. Women are often cast, but in a kneecapped kind of way. They're there to serve men. Not in these movies.
Irvin Kershner hated Nancy Allen. In an interview with her she recounts a bunch of times that he wouldn't even talk to her. I guess he has a thing against women.
@@VIDEOgameDROME I guess if you could surmise things on hearsay and label a situation we were never at, perhaps you're right.
example 2 is fine as is Imo. gives me chills when he steps
Great Review!!!!
Terminator 2 or Aliens. Funny enough, both directed by James Cameron.
Have to disagree with the theme placing as I enjoyed those music pieces for his entrance and movie ending. However I do agree the these should have been placed in the movie, perhaps when he gets fried and the directives are cleared.
T 2 is the best sequel ever
Robo Cain is about ALL you could do to follow up Clarence Bonniger*, imagine if Clarence had got that treatment FAR more ruthless.
THIS IS HILARIOUS!
I always thought Robocop 2 was the greatest sequel ever
No. Doesn't even use the Robocop theme.
Yeah, I'd say so. Or as good as any sequel ever made. Arguably better than the first, IMO, because it shows why Robocop isn't just a man unfortunate enough to be forced into life as a cyborg by OCP, but why he is a true superhero. His life as a cyborg is tragic, but Robocop's sense of duty compels him to transcend his circumstances. We see this when, after he's driven all OCP's programming from his mind and is free from all prime directives, he CHOOSES to be the ultimate police officer. I guess I'd say it is just as good as the first; the first introduces Robocop's circumstances, 2 shows how and why he deals with them and rises above them and what makes him special.
I dont think its BETTER than the first, but i do think it is a great movie, only complaint is the dated Stop Motion FX but the good far outweighs the bad on this one
What do YOU think is the best direct sequel ever made?
Probably spiderman 2-
Terminator 2
The Raid 2: Berandal
Star Trek 2 (or 6)
Aliens
It’s a good sequel. The best sequel ever?? Hell no. Aliens says hi.
So glad I caught this and Terminator 2 in the cinema when they came out, and the latter is the only sequel that may exceed it from a critical and revolutionary perspective, but this is the peak of the old school sci-fi action blockbusters.
Silly - everyone knows Gremlins 2 is the best sequel ever made!
"Hated for no good reason at all" sequel
Psycho 2, Terminator 2, Empire and Aliens are far superior sequels compared to Robocop 2.
But it's still a great sequel.
Bag king did you ever read the draft scripts (or screen play) for Robocop 2 ? its amazing, details that are left out of the movie, i love R2 but after reading the draft script its annoying knowing what was left out. Its crazy.
Robocop 2 is a masterful piece. It’s not only about the privatization of the government, but also about the privatization of the person. Alex Murphy was privatized, that’s why the Doctor Fax told him that without the pieces of mechanical body, he was only a few humans organs. Because of this privatization he never saw his family again. But at the end, the human spirit of fight won over the adversity when murphy said: “Patience Louis, we are only humans”.
facts!
I truly believe that Basil Poledouris would have made some adjustments to the music and make it more action like but still feel epic as heck.
Sometimes, there are times.
Don't forget The Empire Strikes Back and The Chronicles of Riddick, the other 2 excellent sequels
Great review💪🏼💪🏼
Earned a new sub
Definitely recommend Rogue City as the new 3.
Liked, subbed and sent this video to my girlfriend, I’ve been getting her into the series
itches all the spots hits all the notes Officer Murphy gets ALL the votes.
Great sequel. Idk why people crap on it. Robocop 2/Cain is a great villain. So is Hob with the briefcase submachine gun!..and it's cool they brought back a lot of the cast from the first film.
There's a coronation street actor as a extra playing a news reporter trying to get a quote off the old man as he leaves the building. He got into the movie because his wife is Liza gibbons, the news presenter throughout the movie.
This is honestly the truth, I blast the robocop theme tune absolute full blast with me daughters in the back seats of me Range Rover everywhere around town, and drop one liners at random people just to embarrass me daughters
I also do the same with mortal kombat, play the theme and one liners, me and the Range Rover are local heroes for doing this, and my daughters are directly connected to the crazy weirdo in the old Range Rover driving like a madman round town,
Win win