How The RoboCop Movies Changed
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- Robocop as a series consists of three films made from 1987 to 1993, and a remake from 2014. It’s tone and intended audience changed, sometimes radically, between movies and especially between the original series and the remake. Here, I’m looking at how and why.
Robocop, broadly, is about a policeman who gets gunned down by villains and rebuilt as a cyborg by an amoral corporation. OCP are, really, the driving antagonists of all four films, utilising Robocop as the PR pre-game to taking valuable defence and security contracts that will make their corporation king.
All four outings feature Alex Murphy, aka Robocop, dealing with life being not quite the man he once was, but also an incredible force of justice, and the thematic backbone of the series is the juxtaposition of man and machine together. Murphy is limited by directives and by direct control, but Robocop, you might argue, is limited by Murphy.
Films Mentioned:
Robocop (1987), Robocop 2 (1990), Robocop 3 (1993), Starship Troopers (1997), Robocop (2014).
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The first Robocop is a goddamn piece of art, and it still holds up to analysis
I agree 💯 it's a masterpiece of film making. Easily one of the greatest films ever made, it's massively overlooked as alot of people see it as a mindless action film, whilst it's anything but mindless. It's satire and political commentary still stand today.
Yup check out this new official documentary on it:
th-cam.com/video/ydgnM2fYAkA/w-d-xo.html
It's got the vfx people, actors, a lot of the crew
One of the greatest and most original movies ever created.
I hope the production isn’t part of why it’s a masterpiece, cuz then I’d have question why you’d rather have bad cgi and production and bad acting, over good cgi, production, and acting
@@Irrelevantusername000 Honestly, Paul Verhoven was on FIRE during that era with Robocop, Starship Troopers and Total Recall. Wish there were more film makers like him.
Why do they keep giving these prototype cop robots live ammunition during the demonstrations for executives?
To demonstrate their precision over traditional human platforms. Look at the range scene in the first film.
@@baker90338 that's fine for a range. But an office? Lol
Exigentable they probably forgot to give it blanks
Its OCP and OCP doesnt care.
He was probably planning to show off ED-209 at a firing range after the meeting, and got excited.
Even the name "Murphy" sounds like it's straight from a western
Murphy just sounds like an Irish cop
@@homelesssheltervidlogg74 Tap of the mornin to ya creeps you be coming with me dead or alive
@@kkay000 *ok that's a good one...*
Audie Murphy did westerns...
The "western" idea didn't resonate with me. I get the idea of a "western" that doesn't take place in the western US of the 19th century ( _Firefly/Serenity_ takes place in space in the future!). I think there has to be a "frontier" element to the setting that drives the plot. On what frontier is _RoboCop?_
To me, _RoboCop_ is more reminiscent of a sci-fi version of a _Brubaker_ or _Serpico,_ where a "cog" inside a "broken machine" has to try to find a way to bring some measure of reform to a corrupt system. Malcolm Gladwell dubs this style of a story an "eastern," although I don't know how much currency that carries
As a Detroiter, I can attest that we do in fact have a mega conglomerate running our police department. Also personally, my little league team was arrested by a cyborg.
How's the coach doing?
Shouldn't have been brandishing those uzi's.
Detroit is ruined because of democrats. Everywhere they go they destroy their areas.
@@subzero8679 The only difference between Democratic and Republican politicians that actually matters is that Republicans are transparent about being boytoys for lobbyists and corporations (though not through lack of trying).
@@dahkdm8787 yeah, at least Republicans don't try to stay on a high horse and admit to what they are doing. Democrats try to hold that moral high horse.
It's one of my favorite films and never thought of Robocop as a Western, until you pointed it out. Well done.
Same thing here: that was a brilliant observation that clicked in so many ways, for me :-)
Now I get why my dad and I watched it 1000 times and why he loved it so much. Dad’s from the spaghetti western era.
I always felt like the final line was what really nailed that it was a Western. The way the President of OCP asks "What's your name, son?" That always struck me as something out of a cowboy movie.
Yeah, good observation. Most movies do follow off of older types of movies though, Tarantino almost does this with every movie he's ever made.
I always had a hunch about 1 and 2 being westerns, but couldn't name it. Another well-deserved point for this channel. All Bodicker, Kane, and the Old Man bask in the idea that they are above the law. In the end only the Old Man gets away with his life as Robo brings the first two down for their crimes. Again, as mentioned in the video, the 3rd as the film to bring the Old Man and OCP to justice is so obvious. And the fact that the trilogy is not done justice, by not going that way, is so sad.
The scene that thugs shoot Murphy into pieces still haunts me! My parents were so stupid that they allowed me watch the original robocop movie at the age of 7!
@Bubba Sawyer yeah, and I watched the blade movie a year after! No wonder such mad person I've become!
I was 10 and even if I watch the movie now I either go grab a snack or skip that part when his hand gets blown off. I actually saw it in the theater with a friend, no parents with us. That's back when they didn't really check ID at the box office.
@@jackbits6397 I feel the same. I can't watch that scene even to this very day. It traumatized me in a way that the damage never heals!
My parents let me watch it when I was around like 5 or 6 or maybe younger than that
For me its the other way around.. Loved every minute of RoboCop 1 and 2 as a 5 year old.. And now in my early 30's.. Rewatching it is literally giving me nightmares.. Putting a psychopath into a machine that has gone completely rouge.. .. Yikes!!
I think and feel that Robocop 2 is the series saying "What have I become?" There was a Robocop Saturday Morning cartoon around the same time as this movie. And when Robocop electrocuted himself to reset himself, the series was saying "I am going to be an Adult R rated movie again."
Wow. That makes sense
The movie to the T. And yes, Robocop 2 is a different, yet very enjoyable movie to the 1st. The 3rd only has 1 or 2 ok scenes that does deserve notice, but other than that it was very toned down with a lot less satire than the other 2 films.
Of course Sony was behind the Robocop remake, of course they were.
Rods toy box Sony is actually a shortening of their actual name; roughly translated from Japanese: “indescribable motion picture bomb-factory failure festival, Sony.”
Say what you want about Sony, at least the aren't WB
Liver, Lungs, spine and Brain scene was the only good part of that.
Joshua Chap If you actually look beyond DCEU which I'm certain you only focus on when slacking WB, you'd come to realize that WB actually makes/are involved in making some great movies if not the greatest movies.
anything good that cones from Sony is the result of the director, but Sony is to blame for anything bad.
They give money to a lot of shit movies. You people realize that Sony isn't a person who makes these movies themselves, right?
Even the look of Robocop 2014 didn't look right. It looked like a human in a Nanosuit from Crysis, not a half human half machine cyborg.
Still haven't seen it but the design reminds me of Cyborg Ninja (Gray Fox) from the MGS games.
It was because they wanted the public reassured it was a man inside the machine in the movie he was basically a publicity stunt so OmniCorp can get drones on the streets of America
@@BiggMatt183 to me , there is no problem with the suit. It's just that we already have a re-imaginated version of the original suit in the earlier scenes in Robocop 2014.
If it had more funny moments akin to the original + PG 16 , with that suit of the earlier scenes , it could had been better. The black suit would work wonders for a Robocop 2 in which he faces the new version of Cain and was obliterated by it , so he had an upgraded version of it.
I never thought the jaw of Robocop was vulnerable. They keep the human look to help interact with the public. But especially the original, Peter Wellers face looks stretched. The scenes of Alex Murphy shows a very this, angular face and jawline. Robocops face is obviously larger. I always assumed OCP skinned Murphys face and stretched it over a titanium skull. Remember when Bob Morton argued against saving the left arm in the original? "I thought we agreed on total body prosthesis, now loose the arm."
First one was a masterpiece, second one was pretty good, rest were trash, that's how they changed...
The second one was terrible
Same with terminator
@Cyberdemon Mike 2014 wasn't horrible or bad at all, but it didn't have much to stand out.
wilcox tam yea only the first 2 r good
@Cyberdemon Mike You're definitely right, and I did enjoy watching it, but I genuinely think it was forgettable for a lot of people for pretty much no reason. I actually didn't even know it existed until March of this year, I apologize if you thought I was downplaying the movie as I noticed my choice of words that it "didn't really stand out" makes it seem like i think the movie was boring.
Robocop one is still the best. I still watch and enjoy it today. The others were a waste of film.
Part one is unbeatable. One of my all time favs. I do like Part 2 only for the RoboCain scenes. After that, I’m done.
I enjoy the original part 2 was cool and had its moments plus peter weller but after that it got ridiculous like after the first 2 Terminators lol
@@grimm_destroyer5566 I couldn’t have said it any better 💯
@@satishrobertson8771 well robocop 2 turned 30 last year now Terminator 2 is gonna be 30 years old this july cant wait for 2029 in 8 years lol
@@grimm_destroyer5566 I know right? Lol I remember being 10 n 11 yrs old when them movies came out time just flew right on by lol
I will defend the first Robocop movie all the way to my grave, as being one of the greatest sci-fi / action hero movies of all time. You’re move, creep!
I will help you out on that one I also agree it was the greatest sci-fi movie ever made
agreed.
*your
Same!!!
The "boot up sequence" is one of my favorite movie or tv moments of all time.
I read somewhere that Verhoeven's wife is what convinced him to give the script another look.
who Kitty?
You guys weren't wrong about the wife. It's #17.
screenrant.com/robocop-1987-original-secrets-facts-trivia/
"The studio, undeterred, sent a second copy of the script to Verhoeven and urged him to read it for subtext. Still unconvinced, Verhoeven instead decided to have his wife, Martine Tours, read it and give him her thoughts. When she recommended it, Verhoeven re-read it and realized there was more to the story than first met the eye. He signed on soon after."
I am so glad he reconsidered. That really gave substance to the movie.
And I heard, that Stephen King took its first draft of Carrie out of the garbage convinced by his wife too.. i see a pattern here...
Verhoeven said it himself at the documentary - th-cam.com/video/p980PaZjKng/w-d-xo.html
I remember watching this in the theater. And what affected me the most is when RoboCop came in, and the way they had the sound set, and with each step, the theater shook.
I saw the original robocop when I was far too young to see it, but it's my favorite robocop film.
People say Robocop is fascist... Because it has a positive authority figure.
Is that all it takes to be fascism now? a good guy who's got a government job?
Edit: I don't know why so many people are suddenly responding here a year later, or why a bunch seem to lack reading comprehension, but:
I am not saying this movie is fascist. Literally the exact opposite.
I am quoting this very video (11:15) when I mention that people claim this movie is fascist.
To anyone who responds to this comment with further instances of "You're stupid, that thing you think is true!" I will just tell you to learn to fucking read.
Who says that? I haven't heard anyone say that, ever.
@@Erik-vp5bm
My message is over a year old, so you'll forgive me if I can't remember the examples I had seen at the time.
But as of This message, we have people declaring "All Cops Are Bad.", So I doubt they'd approve of anything glorifying a policeman...
Edit: 11:15 in this very video claims it.
@@calemr pardon me if you've in fact gotten up to speed with the discourse, but i think the idea of him being fascistic is bcs of the government institutions he is doing bidding for
@@calemr You're just projecting bud, no one says that. Robo-cop is a commentary on the rich and powerful being corrupt, and Robo-cop's character arc is fighting with disobeying corrupt orders. Robo-cop is the ideal of what cops /should/ be. He upholds the law, he holds everyone to the law equally, and unlike other cop fetish figures, he believes that punishment must fit the crime aka not murdering someone for a petty crime like real cops do. The way he does things all badass isn't mean to be idealized either, it's like the Punisher and Judge Dredd. They are not heroes, they are anti-heroes. So anyone that blindly cheers them on is stupid anyway.
@@TheLinkandmarioshow
Well, take up your issues with the video creator. 11:15.
Also, why am I getting so many responses to an over year old response to a two year old video?
"Dead or alive, you're coming with me" - Alex Murphy/RoboCop.
That line is more than enough to scare criminals shitless!.
Anthony Lewis I’m off to buy the tshirt,,,,,,for a $
Robocop was too far fetched. Not only were there store fronts unboarded but they were opened after dark. Cyborgs i can believe but sometimes movie makers take it too far.
Also, a major corporation has its head office in Detroit? In real life the OCP head office would have fled for silicone valley.
You repeatedly mentioned Robocop's chin as being a weak point of exposed flesh which they specifically deal with in the first film. Only Murphy's brain and a minimal number of support organs were saved. His skull is metal, his face is a mask that OCP made. Robocop says"They made this to honor him."
I remember having a bunch of really bloody, ultra violent RoboCop Tops trading cards as a kid. When thinking back about it they would NEVER have those for children today, it was awesome.
It's hard to ignore the massive Judge Dredd influence on the Robocop character, lines etc.
It's rumored that Judge Dredd was the original idea of what the movie would be.
simontmn I'm rather disappointed that Georg didn't mention this in his introduction.
Yup, verhoeven was reading 2000ad before production, several catchphrases are straight up lifted from the comic, even his look is strikingly similar.
Pat Mills certainly thinks they ripped Dredd off, there's a bit near the end of the 2000AD documentary where he has a bit of a rant about it.
Yes but Robocop turned out so good that all that didnt matter att all. Like it was ment to be that way, only Dredd showed up before it.
I suddenly feel a great concern for The Predator.
Also, Robocop 2014's design looks like every wannabe concept artist's sleek-but-blurry photoshop-sketch portfolio, these days. Iconic designs have gone the way of iconic films.
That's one idea for the movie that I actually found good. There it actually seemed as if the movie was being aware of itself, but unfortunately the rest of the movie didn't match tone.
Looks like a wet suit
Like Wes said, The Predator is a forgettable piece of sh... fiction.
Had planned on seeing The Predator in the cinema, but after watching this & seeing who wrote it, I'm gratefully relieved to have saved some ££.
A great review of the greatest thing to happen to man=kind. As a man who treasures these films I must say that you were pretty much saying all the things that I was thinking. I love the first, I like the second, the third was okay, and the remake doesn't exist. I don't know how you got that footage for something that doesn't exist. Great work man, great work.
Three films and a remake? George, what are you talking about? There are two films, _and only two films._
Redgrave192
Yup. The original. And the underrated remake.
No shitty sequels. No shitty TV shows and cartoons. No shitty comics. Etc.
Redgrave192 you can read my thoughts xD
Robocop 1 & 2
Redgrave192 There's only one film. If they did make a Robocop 2 it would have been disgracefully bad.
Marcos Recio There is no Robocop 2.
What I learned from robocop... having two 50cal machine guns aimed at someone will generally make so they comply.
For those interested, the movie takes place in Detroit, but was filmed in Dallas, TX
As I understand it, the way RoboCop moves in 2014 is [basically] what was originally intended for Peter Weller's take on the character, but the costume was so constrictive, they had to rethink their entire approach, resulting in the slow, hydraulic, and deliberate movements that ultimately lend to the campiness of the film.
6:26 Basil Poledouris' film scores that matter most to the films they're in are "RoboCop" and "Starship Troopers"? Both scores are truly epic, but are you serious? "Conan the Barbarian" is the most monumental film score of all time and not only was it vastly more important to the film, it was vastly more important to cinematic history than all his other efforts combined.
I saw Robocop in 1987 at a local theater. Ever since, I've called it a "ground-breaking" film because it was unique and never done before. Not the premise; rather the TV ads for the Jarvik 7 Heart, the 2000 SUX, "I'd buy that for a dollar," the News Casts and other things. It was the way in which it was presented that was groundbreaking. I believe it changed the future of SciFi. And who doesn't HATE Clarence J. Boddiker yet LOVE Red Foreman? You say Western; that takes me to another Cyborg from the 70s played by Yul Brynner: West World. Ain't it all grand? Carefully crafted Sci Fi can lead to Sci fact... scary
Blomkamp doing the new film set as a sequel to the first Robocop sounds so gooood
Yessss!!!!!
The thing you keep mentioning about the mouth area, the face is preserved skin of Alex Murphy's face stretched over a metal skull. Just a way to give the Alex Murphy brain a recognisable face if he sees himself in the mirror, and to make him appear more human, it being exposed does not in any way make it a weak point. This is mentioned in Robocop 2 when his wife is brought in and he asks her to touch his face saying "They made this to honour him" the helmet is just further protection because despite having a bullet proof skull there are still sensitive points on the outside on the upper portion of the head, and his brain is in there.
For all of its faults, Robocop 3 has one one the best scenes in the franchise when the police begin quitting OCP.
I interpreted Robocop having two central messages. One you already covered. It was about someone discovering his humanity. However I think the central theme was actually anti capitalism. It showed the worst parts of the privatization of government, the greed in capitalism. It was a brilliant satire that got lost in the dumbed down remake.
For those who don’t know, RoboCop was filmed in Dallas, Texas. You can see The Ball (Reunion Tower) in several scenes
The first film is a masterpiece that continues to out do most sci-fi and action today
I'd love to see your take on Dredd and the 90s Judge Dredd.
I have to say that the joke about the credits theme in Robocop 2014 was the funniest thing ever.
Awesome. Very well constructed and written. Interesting insight.
Perfect movie - enjoyable to me both as a kid and as an adult. The social commentary it offers is superb.
Holy fuck. I never realized Robocop is actually a western film in its tone and roots, but you just put the movie in a whole new context that is somehow even cooler than before.
I get a real Jonathan Meades vibe from these videos (Which I mean as a great compliment!)
Perhaps Georg should start having some incongruous back-drops on certain beats. And wear shades x
Jill Hennessy was so beautiful 25 years ago. And Nancy Allan has always been underappreciated.
We need a Robocop video game based on the original series with Peter Weller returning for mocop and voice acting to reprise his role.
I remember watching this when I was 8 years old. When the gun came out of his leg - it blew my mind
🔫🦿🤯
Shooting Robocop in the jaw would be quite difficult from a distance and, more importantly, wouldn't accomplish anything. It's implied (and confirmed by the authors) that Murphy's face is just a skin mask stretched over a completely robotic head, and it's only there to prevent Robocop from goin' insane - OCP scientists thought the disconnection between the human brain and a completely artificial body would be too much to bear for the subject. Even Murphy's eyes are artificial - when he takes off his helmet, he still has "Robovision" and all its functions.
I loved the first two movies with Peter Macnicol as RoboCop.
RoboCop is living proof of how difficult it is to surpass, or even equal, the greatness of the original.
That’s what she said.
Executives "We want kids to be able to watch our movies" Kids everywhere "We already do, please give me my Robocop toy now."
Fun fact, in the UK it was renamed to RoboConstable.
First impression, this guy has the charisma one would expect from reading a script, and being an asocial movie nerd.
But his insights are really great. And the writing in the wits he makes is really funny.
My sickeningly intense yearning for you is finally fulfilled
Wanna buy some nuke? I can give you a good deal as a fellow Robocop fan.
A loved and misunderstood film similar to Fight Club. Generally the actual satire flies over people's heads. Imagine Fight Club 2, where they are solving crimes and good guys. It would make billions.
S C H M I D T B R A H
I might be one of the few people who legitimately enjoyed both the original Robocop and the remake. I feel they were both exploring different things with the same theme. But I didn't question much when I watched Robocop one: it made it clear that it was satire, and more like a comic book. It didn't need to be realistic science fiction. But the remake wanted to you believe it could be true which resulted in me questioning some of the decisions made in the film. Like: if emotions cause the hardware to desynch with the wetware, wouldn't that be considered a fail? Could you imagine if you had an artificial heart using that technology? RIP.
I realized two things while watching this: 1. Paul WS Anderson stole that thing were a directive protecting an executive from being harmed by the company tool for the last Resident Evil movie, and 2. Now I understand why Detroit: Become Human took place in Detroit--it was a homage to Robocop.
I've never cracked open a coconut... =o( However, the sickly, sludgy cracking of a moist skull IS most satisfying! And I'm guessing they're somewhat similar... Anyhow, carry on! =oD
10:20 I think Verhovans wife picked it up and read it and made Paul read it all the way through.
Yes, they were hanging on the beach. She read it while he went for a swim and then later explained to him why it was a good script.
Honestly the commentary in Robocop is as relevant today as it ever was.
Having a Robocop sequel where he says "call me Robocop" is like having a Terminator sequel where they say the future can't be changed.
Wait...
Murphy
Patients Lewis, we're only human
My friends call me murphy, u call me RoboCop
Sounds like a convo within it self,
Whoop whoop thats the sound of the police !
Hey, I just noticed! There's some COW BELL in ROBOCOP's theme!
MORE COW BELL!!!
You say Robocop has no humanity. That's where you're wrong. His very character is that he still has a tiny amount humanity left. It's the one thing driving him to carry on in the face of all the corruption by OCP. There's just that little glimpse of humanity and hope within Robocop to do the right thing, break his program and take down the bad guy.
You know what, sir, I enjoyed your prattle. You have a new subscriber. And I look forward to listening to your take on Terminater
You forgot the Robocop TV series & the 4 part series title Prime Directives
You totally glossed over the fact that Paul V.'s wife was the one who got Paul to see Robocop as a Frankenstein story of sorts!
Robocop returns baybayyyyyyy!!!
Oh, how naive I was.
I'll say this for the first Robocop... I'd buy that for a dollar!
It really weird to see the Father of That 70's Show is the leader of the bad guys in this movie. Very cool roles. Also only Robocop parts I and II were the only ones I like.
Robocop one and two are still fantastic to this day. I know two often gets lumped in with three but two is such a great time. Not the masterpiece as the first but it’s near its elder brother. Three is strange while the remake was a alright attempt but I don’t enjoy it much.
I even sit through Prime Directives over three and 2014 honestly. Not the best but it’s alright for me
Exellent reviews and very interesting.
I'm surprised you didn't discuss the big changes in Robocop between 2 and 3 as they introduced the action figures, comic books, and t-shirts for kids. Part 3 was doomed from the start by the desire to cater to the kids who shouldn't have been allowed to see the first 2 in the first place.
(Original) Robocop - most awesome!
As long as the money behind the studios keep catering to the lowest common denominator they will keep dumping out s**t. I'm not asking for arthouse cinema just a good script that remains that way through the creative process of the film's production. The original Robocop proved that could be done, why did they then fail time and time again?
Your analysis of the franchise is spot on btw - thank you.
Love this series. Keep up the awesome work. Subbed.
Robocop 2014 is more in line with first Robocop than R2 and R3.
Is it dark? Yes. Does it "treat itself seriously"? Yes. Why? First because world around us is surprisingly darker than it was in 1987, when we live under the shadow of mushroom cloud. Second because we didn't understand message Robocop 1987 was hiding under satire.
Great critique. I think I agreed with everything you said about the Robocop movies. The first one is amazing and the second one is okay. The third movie is just unwatchable, it's like drinking a warm, flat 20 oz of caffein free diet Pepsi that someone else has already sipped. The remake was... honestly, to tell you the truth, I did watch it, but I don't remember anything about that movie other than the fact that they poorly referenced, "I'd buy that for a dollar," from the original. I did enjoy the fact that Michael Keeton had returned to acting around this time.
Every Guardroom in the British army had a VCR copy of Robocop. Fact.
Most of us saw the original robocop as children, when O watch it again I see that it's not a children's film. #3 was OBVIOUSLY aimed at children.
Bad robot in robocop two was terrifying
I really enjoyed Robocop 2. I mean come on Robocop vs Robo Kane. That shit was dope. And when they fuck up Robocop that Shii had me 😢
DUDE! THEY FUCKED UP THE ROBOCOP SUIT IN 2014? I'M SO GLAD I DIDN'T WATCH A SINGLE FRAME OF THAT MOVIE!
what I liked about the remake it didn't have that weird comercials that were in the original as well as the weird stage when they were building him like the drill for the targeting system how did that work. the remake had more of workable as the limb replacement with sensor tied into the nerve as well that would work how science has evolved
The ending of this one is superb.
Always loved the first generation Taurus, particularly one of these models.
Best film ever. Always remember going in to a video store with my best friend when we were 8, he made me take it to the counter to be told your not 18... Made my mum rent it out, she asked if there was swearing and I said NOOOOOOOOOOOOO ;)
As much as i loved Robocop classic, i loved 2014 more, personally.
I saw in an interview the reason why the guy re read the script was because his wife read it and Said that he should give it another look this was and interview where the guy who plays robo
Robocop prime directives for me was the right conclusion to the original series!
Serve the public trust.
Protect the innocent.
Uphold the law.
Three simple statements but together with an amazing score gave us a great black and white super hero! We need more of that.
9:40 (Nitpick: shooting Robocop in the jaw wouldn't affect him unless it's with a high caliber, because his skull is pure metal. The face is grafted on top of it and is purely cosmetic. Until he regains his memory of Alex Murphy, he makes no special effort to protect his face. Afterwards, he can be seen raising his arm to his mouth to protect it during the shootout at OCP.)
Sorry man I just parroted what you wrote for some reason TH-cam likes to put everybody's comments out of order. You're 100% right
Yeah. The reason they grafted his face onto the metal skull was because even with erased memories, the brain wuld still remeber being human. Wish is partly why i think those two prototypes in R2 failed as they didn't have their mirror image. Cain was enough delusional already so for him it was pretty muchg the loss of his wang that he mourned. ^^
Plus shooting someone in the jaw, especially a moving target, is extremely difficult. Guns have a lot of recoil, some more than others, and hitting what you're aiming at, even with a stationary target, isn't as easy as movies make it look. That's why officers are trained to shoot at the torso as opposed to an appendage, it's a bigger target. Shooting at an appendage is pretty much a guaranteed miss. Like shooting at tires on a moving vehicle, it won't work in real life.
That said, this is a movie. Since we're using movie logic, maybe a shot in the jaw would work...
One could easily point out that it's likely he only began moving the arm to cover his mouth because that's when they first started trying to hit him in the mouth. Prior to that they were aiming center mass, and no mouth shielding was necessary.
Hes a walking tank with little to no weak spots, unless you shoot his gun, then he’s kinda just a zombie. Just walk away from him.
RC1 - Masterpiece
RC2 - Damn Great Film
RC3 - That Jet Pack was cool...
RCR - Human hand WTF?!
i do actually love the RCR design much more cyborgish if we do consider modern tech, but the hand was so annoying! why the fuk he need 1 hand?!! to get shoted in pieces when he is in fire fight with his hand straight forward! or was it so he could give some handjob to his lover?!
it looks similar to the Ironman suit
Bob Morton wasn't there to tell them to "lose the arm".
@@arshameghtedary344 I really disliked the black Robocop design. It just looks so fake. The original silver they had for him looked amazing. You could see the badge stamped on there and lines were incredible.
for me there's only RC1...
The original works on so many different levels: as a thrilling neo-western, as a smart satire on corporatism/media, as a thoughtful Sci-fi story on the nature of humanity and the soul. And Peter Weller's performance is so underrated. He adds so much subtle nuance to the character that really makes him feel human even as a cyborg.
yes your 100% right, and at the end when he is asked his name, he pauses fro a second and replys "murphy" instead of " robocop".
@@brucewayne7838 he also flips his guns around which was what Murphy used to do.
Robocop 2 is probably the only numbered sequel that uses its title in the movie. Not only that, but as a major plot point.
The Robocop 2 CHARACTER ITSELF is the living embodiment of the sequel movie: it's bigger, meaner, more extreme, it has chainguns because fuck you and when his face is shown, what do we see? Needless uncanny valley CGI.
@@drakkenmensch bigger, meaner with a drug addiction. 😂
The only way for me to solve this crisis is to be Superman 4: The Quest for Peace.
RoboCop 2 and Predator 2 are among my favorite movies, despite being terrible. Their vision of the future is just so fantastically dark. The Jamaican voodoo street gang in Predator 2 is one of the greatest/stupidest ideas ever put to film.
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"You guys really need to cut down!.
@@anthonylewis2080 ya you neeed some sativa mon.
robocop2 predator 2 came out in 1990 that time steven segal also made a movie about jamaican gang. Marked for death. Can anyone tell me wtf had hollywood vs jamaicans at that time?
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Short answer: They got worse
Long answer: I regret to inform whoever reading this comment that the movie series known as RoboCop has become gradually less enjoyable overall in each installment
Long answer: theeeeeeyyyyy gooooooooot wooooooorrrrrssseeeee
i 100% percent agree, even peter weller could not save robocop 2. maybe they needed paul verhoeven back to direct, but to be honest most sequels are ill thought out and just not needed, the first movie worked well as a low budget movie, and it shows that pumping more dollars in to a movie does not always make them better, you need a good story that adds to the original one in my opinion. regards the batman.
yeah that's sadly so true the first one was the best and after that they could never makes anything that was equally as good as the first they were just going down hill after the first movie
@@brucewayne7838 2 was fine. It wasn't the smart satirical take on corporate takeover that 1 was, but it worked fine as a film save some pacing issues. For having been done during the late 80s writer's strike, it worked out well.
Everything after that....and I do mean EVERYTHING....was trash.
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You could NOT have this kind of satire at ANY other time than the '80's. Absolutely perfect!
Apart from some fake limbs and armor, not much is different from real life
Now all we get is nihilistic parody.
@White-Van Helsing o.O ok consoomer.
You don't have to like it when a studio serves you a plate of dog shit, no matter how many bells and whistles they festoon it with.
I loved TFA, nostalgia bait that it was. I actually enjoyed parts of TLJ too, plate of dog shit that it was.
Ros was fucking insulting. As was TLJ, but still.
You could put it out today, and it would hit just as hard. But only to those who understand what's going on.
@White-Van Helsing I was almost positive that's what we were talking about. Certainly what I was talking about w my "nihilistic parody"
For the record, the OT is art. The prequels are parody, the new ones are nihilistic parody
Robocop (1987) is one of those classic movies that is near perfect. Also, it's a near documentary on 2018 Detroit.
Except modern Detroit is worse.
One of the most interesting things about the movie is how prophetic it was, although since that has little to do with cinema I can see how it got overlooked.
Have any of you ever been to Detroit?
You kids talk about it as if it's a huge ghetto. You do realize there are richer areas and commercial areas, right?
Robocop is eerie in it's prescience, on it's base level it's a cheesy cop revenge movie, but i think it is much deeper than that, something about losing our humanity in the name of progress and the ultimate descent into barbarity that causes.
That exchange was bottom barrel, even for TH-cam.
Robocop is too unrealistic for me to enjoy. I just can't imagine Detroit being such a nice place as portrait in the movie.
You sir, made me laugh. Well done.
I blame the filthy corporations, but I'll buy that for a dollar!
Way too many white people in the movie to be Detroit.
Now I just have to found this company called Universal Buyer Commodities or UBC. And sell a new product called the DroidLawman to the Detroit police.
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