Robocop 2, Die Hard 2, and Predator 2 are what I refer to as the holy sequel trilogy. These were loud, mean spirited, foul mouthed, ultra violent over the top unnecessary sequels that are top tier guilty pleasures.
Robocop 2 is honestly my favorite. It's not as personal or focused as the first one, and the big tragedy is just how close it is to being on that level, the set up is there, his wife still wanting to cling to the idea that he's alive, the over bearing directives, and the police strike all could have come together in the 3rd act to make the already outstanding fight with Cain (already in my opinion one of the best fights in the 80s and 90s in general, like top 5 easily) not just spectacular but emotionally satisfying. That said, I think this movie is overlooked because people wanted another story about Murphys inner struggle, but what people ignore is just how excellent the world building is. Robocop isn't the main character, Detroit itself is. Every avenue of this world is explored here, from neglected children, to unfairly treated cops, to good people turned bad, to the corporate overlords who instigated all of this to begin with. Every level of Detroits economic and social hierarchy is on display here and it makes the movie feel very fleshed out in terms of world building. Finally, I wholeheartedly disagree about Hobbs. I think he's an excellent character who fits in perfectly here. Granted, you have to accept the suspension of disbelief that a 12 year old could become a criminal mastermind, but it fits in this universe, at least to me. The tragedy of his character is that he's insanely smart and talented, with charisma (for a kid) and business savvy way beyond his years. He could have been anything he wanted, but he somehow ended up in the most dangerous and illegal profession there is. The part that is supposed to be scary is that he likes it, the violence, the money, and the manipulation. That's why I think he's an outstanding character who fits extremely well in this dark Detroit they've set up. Also, RoboCain is just a near perfect design. I don't care if he's not structurally sound, he looks amazing and they utilize so many crazy powers of his. Such a good movie if you can ignore some silliness.
What makes Hobbs so interesting is his mysterious nature. He has no backstory (that’s explored). Who is this young man? How did he end up with the wrong crowd at such a young age? Isn’t it past his bed time?
If you look closely at the movie you can see subtle hints of inner struggle from Murphy. At the end of the first one he rediscovered his humanity but in this one he’s having to learn to cope with his new reality, on the inside he may be human but his body now has limitations and he’s depressed now. You can’t see the heart break when he watches his wife break down but you know it’s there, he did what he believed was right thing to do despite how hard it was!
I don't like it quite as much as the first Robocop, but I don't think it's that bad at all. Moreover, I think you hit the nail on the head regarding Hobbs's character. I wholeheartedly agree.
This is such a perfect review of Robocop 2 that it's scary. Honestly, now knowing it was directed by the same guy as Empire Strikes Back? Now I see parallels with the endings. There's also an aspect to the untied up storyline strings that rings true with real life, especially no follow up on the scene with his wife. (And I'm still internally waiting for it to happen! That's how good and on point that scene was, that I can still emotionally crave more of it over 30 years later.)
I have always found Robocop 2 to be hugely underrated. I think it was just due to action movie fatigue. Sure it didn't have the underlying theme's of the first movie which made it a classic... it was still a great action flick that delivered on all the actiony parts that made the first movie so popular.
It's way dumber than the first one for sure. So on that level it will always be inferior. I always felt like they were taking the piss out of being a sequel to begin with, anyway. The 'Robocop 2' scene alone, with all the robot suicides, is worth the entire movie.
@@TALCOLMINTHEMIDDLE It’s not dumb at all. It touches on economics, corruption, crime, and addiction. I wish screenwriters today would actually write scripts with those structures and themes.
I've watched this movie at least as many times as I've watched T2. The Hobb character was genius. He really showed the depravity of Cain and enhanced him as a villain. You actually feel sorry for Hobb if you have any imagination as to how grooming works and how kids are blank slates that can be turned good or rotten by their environment. I used to love the crazy comic book feel to the story, and now we live in a world similar to it in regards to how bonkers everything is now.
Yes they completely missed that aspect about the boy and the Cain thing. I actually get tired of the kid being brought up in reviews in a bad way. The world in this movie is fucked up so naturally he would be too!
RoboCop 2 is the ultimate meta movie, in that it’s all about how it would be impossible to make a RoboCop 2. If you watch it from that point of view, it is absolutely ingenious. Think about it - they keep trying to make a second RoboCop, but can’t figure out what made the first one work so well. They also acknowledge how stupid it would be to try to make it more kid-friendly.
Exactly! It’s a sequel about the futility of sequels and condemning corporate studio meddling. Hollywood movies today don’t have the kind of balls to attack it’s own industry like RoboCop 2 does!
This guy got it. It took me a long time to realize how self-reflective this movie actually is. It doesn't fully nail the execution, but damn at least it had the nerve to swing for the fences in that regard.
Wow I never saw that angle. I wish they were more aware of this and reinforced that idea with better execution. Overall, I liked the film, but didn’t like its mean spirit. Something that Alex Murphy did not have and the prequel had plenty of heart and spirit. The opening to the first one suggested you can replace the heart, but the movie showed you can’t
@@neonpop80 It's arguably pretty subtle, like by no means on the nose.. or maybe it's so on the nose it doesn't register. Regardless, if you watch it again you'll wonder how the hell it never occurred to you before.
Right, I see the first as like this perfect origin story, and the second you get to let loose and have fun! Be Robocop and Robocop it up! Bazookas, rocket launchers, he kept a Cobra rifle from the first movie?! And then it hardly dents Robocop 2?! It was just such a FUN movie thanks to keeping all the cursing and violence.
RoboCop 2 is an allegory for the treatment of the RoboCop IP. The new directives are the studio interference to market RoboCop to kids. Hobb is the children RoboCop is being marketed to. The villain of the movie is literally called RoboCop 2.
I would pay to see the original version of the movie where Robocop was supposed to get damaged at the beginning and wakes up even farther into the future
That brain surgery and robotic enhancement of unwilling people are the most terrifying movie sequences I have ever scene. Its like The Men behind the Sun
As a kid I liked both Robocop and Robocop 2 equally, though I probably shouldn't have been watching either. They certainly left an impression on my young mind, as I used to have nightmares of being chased through a massive building by ED 209. That thing was terrifying when it wasn't falling down stairs.
I'm from Chile and in the summer of 90' I came to visit my cousins in Miami. They showed me all the Rated - R action and horror movies from the time. I saw Robocop 1 and 2 back to back! And it was glorious! Some of my happiest memories as a kid, the 80's were so awesome! Lol.
I like Robocop 2 a lot. The first is better but 2 was still good in its own right. The failed Robocop replacement sequence never gets old to me. Or Robocop being so over programmed that he was shooting at a guy for smoking & reading miranda rights to a guy with a hole in his head. 😂
It was good at best but very disappointing... no robocop theme. And it had that batman forever touch of being to colorful and comic in a dark serious story. Peter Weller hated it
I enjoyed the sequel and still watch it from time to time.. But the original will always be my favorite. I think it handled the more emotional aspects of the story a lot better.
I just saw Robocop 2 for the first time, soon after Robocop 1, and I honestly had no idea opinions were so split on it until I looked it up. I actually really liked Robocop 2, and while I'm now noticing that there are some emotional beats that could've been capitalized on, such as the subplot with Murphy's wife, I think it's a really fun movie with some amazing ideas and a very good sense of humor. The part where they gave him tons of new directives was really funny to me. I also didn't mind Hob all that much, to be honest, I think it just kinda went to show that Detroit had deteriorated to the point where a 12 year old being the right hand man to a violent drug ring was a plausible thing. Overall, I liked it almost as much as 1.
The part when OCP uses a focus group to "reprogram" Robocop, that to me, was a very believable scenario. I know a lot of people hated that part, I did too. But I could see an entire Robocop movie based on that premise being successful, if done better.
If you saw Robocop 2 as a kid, Hobbs was the coolest character in the movie. Lol And I like it just as much as the original. It's not as good but it's not nearly that bad.
@@mrnygren2 Yeah, I could pretty much take or leave human Cane, but RoboCane was badass. Still one of the coolest robot/cyborgs ever put on screen, IMO.
Robocop 2 is the one I watch the most. Cain was freaking terrifying. I used to have nightmares all the time about the scene in the warehouse where Cain comes and hunts everyone down. OCP as a stand-in the for the movie studios was a cool meta reference. Trying to make Robocop kid-friendly and letting someone from research (marketing) tinker with his programming. Also the Robocop suit is improved a great deal in this one. He actually has a proper metallic jaw instead of rubber like in the first one.
At least it didn't shy away from the action and violence. It kept the spirit of the first one. It's entertaining and that's the point. Also the scene where Kane stalks in the wearhouse is suspenseful and awesome.
Back in the day this seemed so violent and I remember a DJ on the radio protesting about how violent this film was. I think having the sadistic kid somehow made it scarier. I watched it recently and it didn't seem that bad. The bit with the other failed robocops was a memorable scene.
The only thing that I didn't like about the production (not movie) for Robocop 2 was the decision to film in Houston and not Dallas, like in the original. Even though some matte paintings were used, Dallas played a huge part in giving Robocop that cyberpunk feel, especially the night scenes. This was missing in the 2nd movie.
LOL🤣😂 i like how in that news clip of ED-209 stuck in the pot hole, there's a dude waving in a tow truck to pick him up! 🤣 😂 seen this movie a dozen times or more since i was a kid but never noticed that little detail..
One odd scene I always remember as a kid is that hot dog guy who looks like Richard Pryor while Robocop is chasing Kain on the motor bike. I always thought it was him but I found out it wasn't him when I look it up on the internet.
I am a huge fan of ROBOCOP 2, loved it! Hated the 3rd one. I had subscriptions to Fangoria and Gorezone magazines and would like to add something from interviews from those mags. Apparently, Peter Weller was also very upset over the Hob's character and wanted it removed. They wouldn't bend and he would throw a fit. They said he threw lots of revised scripts across the room like they where frisbees. Regarding the RC2's excessive violence?,... pffft! C'mon now. Would you walk into a Rambo movie and say 'Gee,.. I sure hope Sylvester Stallone isn't as violent as in the other installments.' I want my Robocop movies to be violent and action packed. It is why the remake failed.
11:00 I feel like the stuff with the kid plays better today than at the time, probably because we're more jaded and cynical than in 1990. I think the core idea is pretty funny, and works well with the "80s excess gone horribly wrong" themes of Robo 1 + 2. Even his death scene plays like a SUPER dark parody of similar "deathbed regret" scenes.
Half-baked or not I loved how Murphy tried to reconnect with his family and realized he can't go back to them. "They made this to honor him. Your husband is dead. I do not know you." ~Robocop
The scene where officer Duffy gets sliced open scared the hell out of me. It's really masterfully done, the way it builds up the tension, when the surgeon comes in and reveals the tray of instruments, and you get the impression they're just trying to scare him. And then he starts cutting, and the screaming, the bone chilling, blood curdling screaming! What makes it also so memorable is how it leaves so much to the imagination. You only see the first few seconds of what would probably be hours of excruciating, agonizing torture, and your imagination fills in the blanks. If only there was a directors cut where you see what the surgeon was gonna do with all those other instruments!
One of my all-time favorite RoboCop moments is when Murphy is forced to face his wife after being told that he is nothing but OCP product. Separated by a chain-linked fence, Alex asks his wife to touch him. She reaches through the fence to place a trembling finger on his cheek. She pulls back in horror and whispers, "it's cold." In a stern voice, Murphy looks her dead in the eyes and says, "they made this to honor him. Your husband is dead." He then straightens up, and turns his back on her, "I don't know you," and he walks away leaving his wife is tears. HOLY CRAP!!! That was AMAZING!!! Chilling, haunting, and absolutely heart-breaking!! Then, that makes me think of the deleted scenes. RoboCop watching a female cop taking a shower, and realizing that he can no longer be the lover his wife needs. He can never touch and feel human skin again with his robot hands. Then you have the "nightmare" Robo has where after he visits the grave of Alex Murphy, he dreams of taking his own life by walking into a car-crusher at a junk yard. This is some pretty deep character stuff. I like a lot of the ideas that "RoboCop 2" presented. But, there was too much going on for one movie.
I actually felt for Murphy. That’s what Hollywood films are missing today. I don’t really care for the characters. With Murphy, I actually empathized and sympathized with him.
i loved this movie, i was maybe a year or two younger than the kid in the movie when it came out. i thought it was awesome there was a kid in the movie that was a bad guy. back in the late 80's and early 90's even action and horror movies were movies meant for the whole family and it was common knowledge kids would love this kind of movie. they made multiple lines of robocop toys and games. i never seen that kid as something to aspire to though, or someone i could use as an example of why a bad behaviour is acceptable. i find it hilarious someone would think that. i will say though as cool as the 80's and 90's were, there was equally some really angry parents and politicians who wanted to blame everyone but themselves for why america was going downhill. it's like, you run the place, and let tv's raise your kids, but when they lash out due to neglect its like: "no clearly its whats on the tv thats the core of this issue".
Yeah 1 is better, but 2 is still pretty awesome. And I didn't find the kid annoying at all. I always thought he was a great character, and the actor did a fantastic job. The whole moral ambiguity of dealing with a "bad guy" who is a child is one of the more interesting ideas in this series. Obviously the character was a naturally intelligent and charming child who adapted to the horrible environment he was thrown into, and just doing his best. But in the end, as he's dying, we see that he is still just a child after all.
A hundred percent agree. They should have just fleshed out where the kid came from. sold as a baby for drugs? to Kane who raised him as his protege. make the drug cult thing be a real cult, where Cain was grooming him to be the leader
What makes Hobbs so interesting is his mysterious nature. He has no backstory (that’s explored). Who is this young man? How did he end up with the wrong crowd at such a young age? Isn’t it past his bed time? LOL!!
I just wish they focused more on the Murphy/Robocop conflict with his wife and the human element, I also wish they kept the soundtrack from the first film. I do agree that Hob was probably the worst part of the film and I didn’t even consider till you said it, it does offer a confusing and bad message to children who might’ve seen the film
They go full comic book on this one and that's why I love it. Murphy realizes he's never going to be a family man anymore and just decides to be a good cop
It is a good movie and entertaining, but a lot of the plots and ideas go no where and seem to be abandoned pretty quick. The special effects are truly wonderful especially the kane robot. I took the day off school to go see this at the movies, Good times :)
Have always been a huge fan of Miller and the slightly 'off-kilter' darkness of his stories, characters and dialogue ~ so this film hit the mark for me.
I loved Robo Cop 2 despite all the problems it had during production. I'm a sucker for sequels.....follow ups that everyone consider terrible.....I myself LOVE. Robo Cop 2 Gremlins 2 Ghost Busters 2 All touted as bad sequels.....I loved them all.
I think Hob's death still had good emotional moment since it still taps into Murphy's humanity. You could argue that Hob was a product of society since it seems like Old Detroit was going to hell in a handbasket, but it also allowed Murphy to connect to his humanity and show remorse, even to someone like Hob. Being a father himself he wouldn't want to see a a kid die, especially as a result of being gunned down. That moment of him being there for Hob till the end even when they both knew he was done for was one of those few emotional scenes that made Robocop 2 worth watching; the other one was Murphy having to lie to his ex-wife even though you can see it hurt both of them emotionally.
What makes Hobbs so interesting is his mysterious nature. He has no backstory (that’s explored). Who is this young man? How did he end up with the wrong crowd at such a young age? Isn’t it past his bed time?
The final act would have been better if RoboCain had access to OCP records and knew about Murphy’s family and attacked them, to tie together with Murphy’s human side, biggest disappointment of movie for me was dropping the wife and son right at the beginning, was excited to see where that story went, unfortunately it went nowhere
Or, if I were revising the script, I'd have RoboCain be made earlier in the movie - around the time Robocop is disassembled and reconstructed, so the two characters' stories could run in parallel. The entire "dark Robocop" mirroring idea is largely lost when the bad guy doesn't even show up until like 15 minutes from the end.
I think Robocop 2 is just as good if not better than the original, it just has that thing that most other sequels wish they had. Personally i think it's way more violent than the first. And Cain being turned into that super menacing war robot, fuck that thing is scary. and then theres the sequence with the Robocop 2 versions, the ones that seem to hate their new existence, first one takes his helmet off with a screeching scream of pain and the other one shoots everyone that turned him into his "new" self and then off's himself as a last act.
Robocop 2 is a great film. The outlandish stuff is a response to a tough question “how do we make a sequel to robocop?” You try to turn it up to 11. I have a few problems with the film. the film’s tone did a 180 when the kid was dying in the truck…it’s a really weird undeserved moment. Also, Weller was right…the ending was just chopped off. Ok, Robocop says this and then the end. I think Porky Pig should have come out with a “That’s All Folks” sign and then drop curtain. There’s another weird moment that I didn’t catch until repeated viewings. Robocop is fighting Robocop 2 inside the building when they both fly out. Then Robocop 2 is fighting all the cops outside. Where is robocop? After a moment it is revealed that robocop is now taking cover behind a police car, watching? Lol. Rewatch it, it’s strange. An error in editing? Regardless, I think I’ve watched Robocop 2 more times than the original.
So like most of us who grew up in the 80's and 90's, I loved the first Robocop and I actually bribed my cousin to take me to see Robocop 2 after I accidentally bought the comic book adaptation (I didn't read the title carefully, I just thought it was a new Robocop comic). Either way, I enjoyed it. I was just upset when I found out that the magnavolt car security system was just a movie prop instead of an actual product. I still want one of those.
To be honest... its my fav robocop. Well... the original is classic but... ah cmon its epic. No matter what anyone says. Its particularly dark and gritty, the environments... everything. But those (edit: satirical) advert breaks throughout the movie are hilarious stuff.
I find this Robocop better than the original. Especially considering the feeling I felt when I watched 3 in the theaters. Robocop 3 focused more on Louis ( 12:14 ) and look how that turned out.
The appearance of the super violent kid has Frank Miller written all over it. It was a theme in both Batman and Robocop vs Terminator comics, and Im sure more. I liked Robocop 2 as much as the first one. The ending was a bit abrupt though
Out of the original Robocop trilogy, I enjoyed Robocop 2 more. It’s my favorite one. The villain scared a bit when I was a kid especially when his brain was in the jar, bit eerie. I give Robocop 2 8/10.
I thought Hob was an over the top ridiculous character in a good way. In a normal movie he would be terrible, but future Detroit is so messed up a 12 year old foul mouthed sociopathic gang leader is a natural fit for that sort of satirical dystopia.
The only subsequent Robocop project that was able to recapture the lightning in a bottle the first movie caught is the 1994 live-action Robocop TV series. It was like a Robocop from a similar but alternate universe from the movie Robocop yet it captured the feel of that first movie better than anything else that came after it did. Adding the character Commander Cash (mostly as a cartoon merchandising gimmick, but played in live-action by Roddy Piper in 1 episode) and a new theme song from Joe Walsh helped carve out this series' own legendary place as part of the Robocop franchise.
It’s been a minute since I’ve seen this one, but I always liked it. I liked the addition of Hob as well. I thought it made sense to add a kid to the drug gang because this was something that was happening in gangs then and still happens now. The youth of any area are easily susceptible to a quick dollar. So the added allure of rebelling against your parents is too strong and many young people find themselves in gangs. It makes a stronger message for RoboCop that as an almost will-less killing machine set out to stop crime, how can he achieve that goal against his most basic programming to protect children. It’s brilliant. And in the post-Reagan and the middle of the Bush dynasty in America, both the character’s inclusion and everyone’s reaction is apt. It’s like people have forgotten the Simpson’s Mrs. Lovejoy meme that is a satire of exactly what this movie is saying with Hob. Won’t someone please think of the children? Anyways…. I think the only part of RoboCop 2 that I feel falls flat is the lack of development for Tom Noonan’s character. We don’t really learn a whole lot about him as a man. Then he’s inside of an unstoppable killing machine and we don’t have any idea what that really would do to him. We just know “drugs bad” and this that it’s a bad decision putting him in there. And I think that’s where it misses the mark. If we are satirizing Reagan era politics here, why aren’t we coming for Nancy and her “just say no” dogma?
5:00 - that really sticks out as bizarre now. I remember RoboCop posters and merch was all over the place when I was at school yet I didn't see it till much later and was shocked how violent it was.
It wasn't quite as good as the first one. But I enjoyed the dark humor and the satire. And I thought the kid villain was one of the best parts of the movie. It was pretty good.
It falls into that trap of a sequel trying to live up to the high bar set by the first. Robo Cain’s design is amazing. All the visual effects are great in this film. the two suicidal “prototypes “ , Torso Murphy & Cain are all excellent. The story writing is where is falters. It’s an enjoyable film and will always hold a place in my childhood. I would highly recommend the Robocop Rogue City Video game. It’s worth a play through just for the story.
I always imagined that Hob was Cain's chosen successor, which is why he made him watch Duffy's torture to "harden" Hob and build a tolerance for violent stuff idk
Should've just had Clarence's brain used for Robocop 2, and maybe have Hob be his son, or some other tie to Clarence or Dick Jones. It would've mirrored the revenge plot of the first and raise the stakes, as Murphy barely defeated a human Clarence.
It's by no means perfect, but compared to all the other RoboCop sequels in cinema, in television series, or reboots, it's by far the best of a bad bunch.
I really enjoyed this movie. At the time, it was the most violent movie I had ever seen in my life. It was shocking and appealed to me greatly at the time. Not as much these days but it brings back good memories watching it every so often.
Orion's rush to make the sequel def hurt the resulting film. The RoboKane design was really awesome, but I wish we had gotten to see the Corporate Wars developed as the sequel.
The kid and Kane were awesome.Still have vivid images of them frightening the 20 year old me, just like Tim Curry on IT did it.Little kid kills all around?I say good job. Love the movie still.
The problem with anything that came after the original is they all ignore the fact that Murphy was on a journey to reclaim his humanity. We know he reclaimed it when he smiled and said, “Murphy” at the end. Every follow up made him a machine again.
Its awsome .great action ,ultra violent its up there with any follow up film .its got a very very sadistic feel to it and dosent pull its punches .the 1st is a masterpice but this is a worthly follow up
Maybe I'm biased because I lived around where RoboCop 2 was being filmed (I was in elementary at the time) but RoboCop 2 is one my favorites and will always have a special place in my heart.
It's not as good as the first, but s lot of sequels aren't. But it doesn't always mean they're bad either. There's a lot of great world building here and a lot of it still feels like it fits with what the first film laid down. Most importantly, this movie is just fun. I kind of wish maybe the finale did something with a bit more intelligent creativity to it rather than just a robot fight. But you know what it's a pretty sweet robot fight, it has one of the best implementations of switching from stop motion effects to practical effects and actors all in the same scene/shot. That one shot where he jumps off of the top of the truck onto Kane RoboCop is seamless how it transitions from live actor to stop motion model.
2 is a good movie despite retreading a lot of what made the first a great film. I didn't know people were so against the kid gangster. The Detroit depicted in the film is supposed to be an over the top dystopia. I always thought his character was fine in that framework.
Kane's gang should've been like Clarence Boddicker's gang, under someone in OCP! OCP the corporation should've been the main antagonist of all the movies!!
The first movie that i saw in a vhs as kid was Robocop 2, i was maybe 3/4 years old, my mother was against that i started seeing violent movies but my father didn't care 😂😂😂. Since then is my guilty pleasure movie. After Robocop 2 i saw T2, Predator and all Alien movies. What a great childhood... So many memories.
Robocop 2 was a good but flawed follow up to the original. I actually appreciated the Hob character - it is something that had never really been done before - a child being the leader of a drug gang.
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Robocop 2, Die Hard 2, and Predator 2 are what I refer to as the holy sequel trilogy. These were loud, mean spirited, foul mouthed, ultra violent over the top unnecessary sequels that are top tier guilty pleasures.
Came here to say precisely this. It’s one of those sequels that are seen as bad because the original was so good.
Batman returns, maybe? 🤔
@@AkilaeAK that’s another good one.
@@chrisgavin2794 Probably my favorite Batman film in all honesty.
100 percent agree I watched the sequels when I was younger. Had them on VHS and didn't have the originals . Would include gremlins 2 as well
Robocop 2 is very goofy but also very sadistic. The Kane robot is a masterpiece of practical effects.
It was very scary. I would run like crazy from that metallic monster.
Only it was CGI. 😂
@@robogreek3157 lol, no it wasn't.
That Goodsmile Cain figure is dope. 😁
I would argue that it's the best stop motion monster/bad guy ever, in the history of cinema.
Robocop 2 is honestly my favorite. It's not as personal or focused as the first one, and the big tragedy is just how close it is to being on that level, the set up is there, his wife still wanting to cling to the idea that he's alive, the over bearing directives, and the police strike all could have come together in the 3rd act to make the already outstanding fight with Cain (already in my opinion one of the best fights in the 80s and 90s in general, like top 5 easily) not just spectacular but emotionally satisfying.
That said, I think this movie is overlooked because people wanted another story about Murphys inner struggle, but what people ignore is just how excellent the world building is. Robocop isn't the main character, Detroit itself is. Every avenue of this world is explored here, from neglected children, to unfairly treated cops, to good people turned bad, to the corporate overlords who instigated all of this to begin with. Every level of Detroits economic and social hierarchy is on display here and it makes the movie feel very fleshed out in terms of world building.
Finally, I wholeheartedly disagree about Hobbs. I think he's an excellent character who fits in perfectly here. Granted, you have to accept the suspension of disbelief that a 12 year old could become a criminal mastermind, but it fits in this universe, at least to me. The tragedy of his character is that he's insanely smart and talented, with charisma (for a kid) and business savvy way beyond his years. He could have been anything he wanted, but he somehow ended up in the most dangerous and illegal profession there is. The part that is supposed to be scary is that he likes it, the violence, the money, and the manipulation. That's why I think he's an outstanding character who fits extremely well in this dark Detroit they've set up.
Also, RoboCain is just a near perfect design. I don't care if he's not structurally sound, he looks amazing and they utilize so many crazy powers of his. Such a good movie if you can ignore some silliness.
What makes Hobbs so interesting is his mysterious nature. He has no backstory (that’s explored).
Who is this young man?
How did he end up with the wrong crowd at such a young age?
Isn’t it past his bed time?
i love how everything in this world just seems evil!
If you look closely at the movie you can see subtle hints of inner struggle from Murphy. At the end of the first one he rediscovered his humanity but in this one he’s having to learn to cope with his new reality, on the inside he may be human but his body now has limitations and he’s depressed now. You can’t see the heart break when he watches his wife break down but you know it’s there, he did what he believed was right thing to do despite how hard it was!
I don't like it quite as much as the first Robocop, but I don't think it's that bad at all. Moreover, I think you hit the nail on the head regarding Hobbs's character. I wholeheartedly agree.
This is such a perfect review of Robocop 2 that it's scary.
Honestly, now knowing it was directed by the same guy as Empire Strikes Back? Now I see parallels with the endings. There's also an aspect to the untied up storyline strings that rings true with real life, especially no follow up on the scene with his wife. (And I'm still internally waiting for it to happen! That's how good and on point that scene was, that I can still emotionally crave more of it over 30 years later.)
I don’t care what anyone says, this sequel will always have a special place in my heart. Love this movie!
Fun sequel 😊
This film taught me that a rolling stone is worth two in the bush
Same. I actually like it more than Robocop.
The third movie sucked in comparison to this one.
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Me too.
I have always found Robocop 2 to be hugely underrated. I think it was just due to action movie fatigue. Sure it didn't have the underlying theme's of the first movie which made it a classic... it was still a great action flick that delivered on all the actiony parts that made the first movie so popular.
It's way dumber than the first one for sure. So on that level it will always be inferior. I always felt like they were taking the piss out of being a sequel to begin with, anyway. The 'Robocop 2' scene alone, with all the robot suicides, is worth the entire movie.
Totally agree, and I feel like Predator 2 suffers from the same fait.
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It's smarter than you think. It's a commentary on itself.
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It’s not dumb at all.
It touches on economics, corruption, crime, and addiction.
I wish screenwriters today would actually write scripts with those structures and themes.
@@DialloMoore503 Dumb movies can still have smart themes and be effective at delivering on them.
I've watched this movie at least as many times as I've watched T2. The Hobb character was genius. He really showed the depravity of Cain and enhanced him as a villain. You actually feel sorry for Hobb if you have any imagination as to how grooming works and how kids are blank slates that can be turned good or rotten by their environment. I used to love the crazy comic book feel to the story, and now we live in a world similar to it in regards to how bonkers everything is now.
Yes they completely missed that aspect about the boy and the Cain thing. I actually get tired of the kid being brought up in reviews in a bad way. The world in this movie is fucked up so naturally he would be too!
RoboCop 2 is the ultimate meta movie, in that it’s all about how it would be impossible to make a RoboCop 2. If you watch it from that point of view, it is absolutely ingenious.
Think about it - they keep trying to make a second RoboCop, but can’t figure out what made the first one work so well. They also acknowledge how stupid it would be to try to make it more kid-friendly.
Exactly! It’s a sequel about the futility of sequels and condemning corporate studio meddling. Hollywood movies today don’t have the kind of balls to attack it’s own industry like RoboCop 2 does!
This guy got it. It took me a long time to realize how self-reflective this movie actually is. It doesn't fully nail the execution, but damn at least it had the nerve to swing for the fences in that regard.
You are right. If more people knew this they would like it a bit more.
I always thought is was a decent sequal. Its still the 2nd best Robocop movie.
Wow I never saw that angle. I wish they were more aware of this and reinforced that idea with better execution. Overall, I liked the film, but didn’t like its mean spirit. Something that Alex Murphy did not have and the prequel had plenty of heart and spirit. The opening to the first one suggested you can replace the heart, but the movie showed you can’t
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It's arguably pretty subtle, like by no means on the nose.. or maybe it's so on the nose it doesn't register. Regardless, if you watch it again you'll wonder how the hell it never occurred to you before.
Robocain was and will always be just over the top awesomeness in both design and sheer screen presence.
An awesome villain/antagonist that was very well written.
That fucking gun!
The final fight is so damn fun to watch.
As a kid I LOVED 2 more than the first. The first was an incredible story; the second was like playing with action figures lol.
Right, I see the first as like this perfect origin story, and the second you get to let loose and have fun! Be Robocop and Robocop it up! Bazookas, rocket launchers, he kept a Cobra rifle from the first movie?! And then it hardly dents Robocop 2?! It was just such a FUN movie thanks to keeping all the cursing and violence.
The part when the 2nd failed Robocop 2 takes off its helmet and screams and falls outta frame still makes me laugh to this day.
I always laugh like a lunatic whenever I remember it.
Classic right there
#metoo. Lol
RoboCop 2 is an allegory for the treatment of the RoboCop IP. The new directives are the studio interference to market RoboCop to kids. Hobb is the children RoboCop is being marketed to. The villain of the movie is literally called RoboCop 2.
I would pay to see the original version of the movie where Robocop was supposed to get damaged at the beginning and wakes up even farther into the future
Would you buy that for a dollar?
I have it on VHS
@@MrMegatron85I got that reference 🤣🤣🤣 Mr Megatron 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
SEGA GENESIS
ROBOCOP vs TERMINATOR
pretty sure they made a comic series about the original version of this movie. I’ve never read it, but i’ve heard it’s crazy.
As a kid, I liked the first Robocop, but LOVED the second one. That Kane cyborg was just awesome.
What made him so menacing was how unhinged he was
That brain surgery and robotic enhancement of unwilling people are the most terrifying movie sequences I have ever scene. Its like The Men behind the Sun
This movie is most definitely a guilty pleasure for me. It also starred in live-action Mr. Burns and Smithers.
Excellent 😁
Same!
guilty? this movie is awesome, I have no guilt at all
As a kid I liked both Robocop and Robocop 2 equally, though I probably shouldn't have been watching either. They certainly left an impression on my young mind, as I used to have nightmares of being chased through a massive building by ED 209. That thing was terrifying when it wasn't falling down stairs.
Same here. As a kid I thought the dude getting cut up with a bone saw was cool to watch but it makes me cringe now
I had a nightmare of Arnold and t1000 chasing me while riding my Enduro bike😅😅😅
I agree. I can watch either and be totally happy.
I'm from Chile and in the summer of 90' I came to visit my cousins in Miami. They showed me all the Rated - R action and horror movies from the time.
I saw Robocop 1 and 2 back to back! And it was glorious!
Some of my happiest memories as a kid, the 80's were so awesome! Lol.
Lol you and me both 😂
Regardless of other aspects, I love the design of the Cain robot.
I like Robocop 2 a lot. The first is better but 2 was still good in its own right. The failed Robocop replacement sequence never gets old to me. Or Robocop being so over programmed that he was shooting at a guy for smoking & reading miranda rights to a guy with a hole in his head. 😂
It was good at best but very disappointing... no robocop theme. And it had that batman forever touch of being to colorful and comic in a dark serious story. Peter Weller hated it
Robocop 2 is a masterpiece, compared to Robocop 3.
Skateboard Kid 2 is a masterpiece compared to Robocop 3
Number 3 I couldn't watch
@@Fury851 robocop catches a bullet in 3. I laughed so hard when I saw that scene
I enjoyed the sequel and still watch it from time to time.. But the original will always be my favorite. I think it handled the more emotional aspects of the story a lot better.
I just saw Robocop 2 for the first time, soon after Robocop 1, and I honestly had no idea opinions were so split on it until I looked it up. I actually really liked Robocop 2, and while I'm now noticing that there are some emotional beats that could've been capitalized on, such as the subplot with Murphy's wife, I think it's a really fun movie with some amazing ideas and a very good sense of humor. The part where they gave him tons of new directives was really funny to me. I also didn't mind Hob all that much, to be honest, I think it just kinda went to show that Detroit had deteriorated to the point where a 12 year old being the right hand man to a violent drug ring was a plausible thing. Overall, I liked it almost as much as 1.
The part when OCP uses a focus group to "reprogram" Robocop, that to me, was a very believable scenario. I know a lot of people hated that part, I did too.
But I could see an entire Robocop movie based on that premise being successful, if done better.
If you saw Robocop 2 as a kid, Hobbs was the coolest character in the movie. Lol And I like it just as much as the original. It's not as good but it's not nearly that bad.
Same. Hobbs character was one of the best parts of the movie, after RoboKane and Murphy of course.
@@LastBastian I hated Cane as a character and only liked him as a Robot at the end.
@@mrnygren2 Yeah, I could pretty much take or leave human Cane, but RoboCane was badass. Still one of the coolest robot/cyborgs ever put on screen, IMO.
Robocop 2 Is my favorite. I loved Hob, his scenes were so funny. The third act was satisfying. All and all, a great followup to Robocop 1.
Robocop 2 is the one I watch the most. Cain was freaking terrifying. I used to have nightmares all the time about the scene in the warehouse where Cain comes and hunts everyone down.
OCP as a stand-in the for the movie studios was a cool meta reference. Trying to make Robocop kid-friendly and letting someone from research (marketing) tinker with his programming. Also the Robocop suit is improved a great deal in this one. He actually has a proper metallic jaw instead of rubber like in the first one.
As was the case in Rambo, Terminator, Rocky, StarWars and Evil Dead, i always felt that the second picture was the very best in the series.
At least it didn't shy away from the action and violence. It kept the spirit of the first one. It's entertaining and that's the point. Also the scene where Kane stalks in the wearhouse is suspenseful and awesome.
Back in the day this seemed so violent and I remember a DJ on the radio protesting about how violent this film was. I think having the sadistic kid somehow made it scarier. I watched it recently and it didn't seem that bad. The bit with the other failed robocops was a memorable scene.
It was violent, but not in a gratuitous way.
It was necessary.
One of my favorite movies of all time. A masterpiece ❤
The only thing that I didn't like about the production (not movie) for Robocop 2 was the decision to film in Houston and not Dallas, like in the original. Even though some matte paintings were used, Dallas played a huge part in giving Robocop that cyberpunk feel, especially the night scenes. This was missing in the 2nd movie.
Interesting.
Great comment and analysis.
Robocop 2 felt like it should have been a TV series. There were so many stories packed in that could have been an episode each.
LOL🤣😂 i like how in that news clip of ED-209 stuck in the pot hole, there's a dude waving in a tow truck to pick him up! 🤣 😂 seen this movie a dozen times or more since i was a kid but never noticed that little detail..
The second one is like an evil sibling to the first. Flick has a mean streak. I love it.
Is this a big goofy mess? Yes… and I love every minute of it
I love this film.The sequence where we first see Robo Kane in the dark warehouse is truly terrifying.
One odd scene I always remember as a kid is that hot dog guy who looks like Richard Pryor while Robocop is chasing Kain on the motor bike. I always thought it was him but I found out it wasn't him when I look it up on the internet.
"They goin to kick somebody ass!"
I am a huge fan of ROBOCOP 2, loved it! Hated the 3rd one. I had subscriptions to Fangoria and Gorezone magazines and would like to add something from interviews from those mags. Apparently, Peter Weller was also very upset over the Hob's character and wanted it removed. They wouldn't bend and he would throw a fit. They said he threw lots of revised scripts across the room like they where frisbees.
Regarding the RC2's excessive violence?,... pffft! C'mon now. Would you walk into a Rambo movie and say 'Gee,.. I sure hope Sylvester Stallone isn't as violent as in the other installments.'
I want my Robocop movies to be violent and action packed. It is why the remake failed.
11:00 I feel like the stuff with the kid plays better today than at the time, probably because we're more jaded and cynical than in 1990. I think the core idea is pretty funny, and works well with the "80s excess gone horribly wrong" themes of Robo 1 + 2. Even his death scene plays like a SUPER dark parody of similar "deathbed regret" scenes.
Half-baked or not I loved how Murphy tried to reconnect with his family and realized he can't go back to them.
"They made this to honor him. Your husband is dead. I do not know you."
~Robocop
haunting line. just the way he says it
The scene where officer Duffy gets sliced open scared the hell out of me. It's really masterfully done, the way it builds up the tension, when the surgeon comes in and reveals the tray of instruments, and you get the impression they're just trying to scare him. And then he starts cutting, and the screaming, the bone chilling, blood curdling screaming! What makes it also so memorable is how it leaves so much to the imagination. You only see the first few seconds of what would probably be hours of excruciating, agonizing torture, and your imagination fills in the blanks. If only there was a directors cut where you see what the surgeon was gonna do with all those other instruments!
One of my all-time favorite RoboCop moments is when Murphy is forced to face his wife after being told that he is nothing but OCP product. Separated by a chain-linked fence, Alex asks his wife to touch him. She reaches through the fence to place a trembling finger on his cheek. She pulls back in horror and whispers, "it's cold." In a stern voice, Murphy looks her dead in the eyes and says, "they made this to honor him. Your husband is dead." He then straightens up, and turns his back on her, "I don't know you," and he walks away leaving his wife is tears.
HOLY CRAP!!! That was AMAZING!!! Chilling, haunting, and absolutely heart-breaking!!
Then, that makes me think of the deleted scenes. RoboCop watching a female cop taking a shower, and realizing that he can no longer be the lover his wife needs. He can never touch and feel human skin again with his robot hands. Then you have the "nightmare" Robo has where after he visits the grave of Alex Murphy, he dreams of taking his own life by walking into a car-crusher at a junk yard. This is some pretty deep character stuff.
I like a lot of the ideas that "RoboCop 2" presented. But, there was too much going on for one movie.
I actually felt for Murphy.
That’s what Hollywood films are missing today. I don’t really care for the characters.
With Murphy, I actually empathized and sympathized with him.
i loved this movie, i was maybe a year or two younger than the kid in the movie when it came out. i thought it was awesome there was a kid in the movie that was a bad guy. back in the late 80's and early 90's even action and horror movies were movies meant for the whole family and it was common knowledge kids would love this kind of movie. they made multiple lines of robocop toys and games.
i never seen that kid as something to aspire to though, or someone i could use as an example of why a bad behaviour is acceptable. i find it hilarious someone would think that. i will say though as cool as the 80's and 90's were, there was equally some really angry parents and politicians who wanted to blame everyone but themselves for why america was going downhill. it's like, you run the place, and let tv's raise your kids, but when they lash out due to neglect its like: "no clearly its whats on the tv thats the core of this issue".
Yeah 1 is better, but 2 is still pretty awesome. And I didn't find the kid annoying at all. I always thought he was a great character, and the actor did a fantastic job. The whole moral ambiguity of dealing with a "bad guy" who is a child is one of the more interesting ideas in this series.
Obviously the character was a naturally intelligent and charming child who adapted to the horrible environment he was thrown into, and just doing his best. But in the end, as he's dying, we see that he is still just a child after all.
Exactly what I've always thought. Well said!
A hundred percent agree. They should have just fleshed out where the kid came from. sold as a baby for drugs? to Kane who raised him as his protege. make the drug cult thing be a real cult, where Cain was grooming him to be the leader
What makes Hobbs so interesting is his mysterious nature. He has no backstory (that’s explored).
Who is this young man?
How did he end up with the wrong crowd at such a young age?
Isn’t it past his bed time?
LOL!!
I just wish they focused more on the Murphy/Robocop conflict with his wife and the human element, I also wish they kept the soundtrack from the first film. I do agree that Hob was probably the worst part of the film and I didn’t even consider till you said it, it does offer a confusing and bad message to children who might’ve seen the film
I love robocop 2 it's really underrated and should definitely get more love
I loved part 2! I consider 1 and 2 the only really proper Robo tales in any medium outside of some of the old Marvel comics.
They go full comic book on this one and that's why I love it. Murphy realizes he's never going to be a family man anymore and just decides to be a good cop
It is a good movie and entertaining, but a lot of the plots and ideas go no where and seem to be abandoned pretty quick. The special effects are truly wonderful especially the kane robot. I took the day off school to go see this at the movies, Good times :)
Always loved the writing and performances in this flick. Kershner was the king of sequels.
March 1998 ... this script was sent back from the future!!! I knew it was ahead of its time!
Have always been a huge fan of Miller and the slightly 'off-kilter' darkness of his stories, characters and dialogue
~ so this film hit the mark for me.
I loved Robo Cop 2 despite all the problems it had during production. I'm a sucker for sequels.....follow ups that everyone consider terrible.....I myself LOVE.
Robo Cop 2
Gremlins 2
Ghost Busters 2
All touted as bad sequels.....I loved them all.
I’ve still only ever seen the first one. I should probably check this one out eventually
my favorite part of robocop 2 is where OCP acknowledges how they can't make robocop 2.
This should be too comment. I never connected the dots, but this is brilliant.
I think Hob's death still had good emotional moment since it still taps into Murphy's humanity. You could argue that Hob was a product of society since it seems like Old Detroit was going to hell in a handbasket, but it also allowed Murphy to connect to his humanity and show remorse, even to someone like Hob. Being a father himself he wouldn't want to see a a kid die, especially as a result of being gunned down. That moment of him being there for Hob till the end even when they both knew he was done for was one of those few emotional scenes that made Robocop 2 worth watching; the other one was Murphy having to lie to his ex-wife even though you can see it hurt both of them emotionally.
What makes Hobbs so interesting is his mysterious nature. He has no backstory (that’s explored).
Who is this young man?
How did he end up with the wrong crowd at such a young age?
Isn’t it past his bed time?
The final act would have been better if RoboCain had access to OCP records and knew about Murphy’s family and attacked them, to tie together with Murphy’s human side, biggest disappointment of movie for me was dropping the wife and son right at the beginning, was excited to see where that story went, unfortunately it went nowhere
Or, if I were revising the script, I'd have RoboCain be made earlier in the movie - around the time Robocop is disassembled and reconstructed, so the two characters' stories could run in parallel. The entire "dark Robocop" mirroring idea is largely lost when the bad guy doesn't even show up until like 15 minutes from the end.
@@jasonblalock4429 yeah there’s lots of ways to improve this movie, that’s probably why it’s disappointing, because it should have been great
@@travismiller4320 Many old characters returned but weren't used enough.. RoboCop 2 had awesome action but the story was indeed rushed or unfinished.
I see what you’re saying. You make an excellent point.
I think Robocop 2 is just as good if not better than the original, it just has that thing that most other sequels wish they had. Personally i think it's way more violent than the first. And Cain being turned into that super menacing war robot, fuck that thing is scary. and then theres the sequence with the Robocop 2 versions, the ones that seem to hate their new existence, first one takes his helmet off with a screeching scream of pain and the other one shoots everyone that turned him into his "new" self and then off's himself as a last act.
Hobb was a smart addition to the story. It plays into how crime knows no boundaries
Robocop 2 is a great film. The outlandish stuff is a response to a tough question “how do we make a sequel to robocop?” You try to turn it up to 11.
I have a few problems with the film. the film’s tone did a 180 when the kid was dying in the truck…it’s a really weird undeserved moment.
Also, Weller was right…the ending was just chopped off. Ok, Robocop says this and then the end. I think Porky Pig should have come out with a “That’s All Folks” sign and then drop curtain.
There’s another weird moment that I didn’t catch until repeated viewings. Robocop is fighting Robocop 2 inside the building when they both fly out. Then Robocop 2 is fighting all the cops outside. Where is robocop? After a moment it is revealed that robocop is now taking cover behind a police car, watching? Lol. Rewatch it, it’s strange. An error in editing?
Regardless, I think I’ve watched Robocop 2 more times than the original.
So like most of us who grew up in the 80's and 90's, I loved the first Robocop and I actually bribed my cousin to take me to see Robocop 2 after I accidentally bought the comic book adaptation (I didn't read the title carefully, I just thought it was a new Robocop comic). Either way, I enjoyed it. I was just upset when I found out that the magnavolt car security system was just a movie prop instead of an actual product. I still want one of those.
To be honest... its my fav robocop. Well... the original is classic but... ah cmon its epic. No matter what anyone says. Its particularly dark and gritty, the environments... everything. But those (edit: satirical) advert breaks throughout the movie are hilarious stuff.
I find this Robocop better than the original. Especially considering the feeling I felt when I watched 3 in the theaters. Robocop 3 focused more on Louis ( 12:14 ) and look how that turned out.
Today I learned there was a Robocop 3
I don't care what others say. I love Robocop 2 (1990) and Robocop: The Series (1994 - 1995) as much as the original masterpiece!
The appearance of the super violent kid has Frank Miller written all over it. It was a theme in both Batman and Robocop vs Terminator comics, and Im sure more. I liked Robocop 2 as much as the first one. The ending was a bit abrupt though
Out of the original Robocop trilogy, I enjoyed Robocop 2 more. It’s my favorite one. The villain scared a bit when I was a kid especially when his brain was in the jar, bit eerie. I give Robocop 2 8/10.
Actually, that initial script sounds kinda cool!
I thought Hob was an over the top ridiculous character in a good way. In a normal movie he would be terrible, but future Detroit is so messed up a 12 year old foul mouthed sociopathic gang leader is a natural fit for that sort of satirical dystopia.
This movie is the 90’s incarnate. Over the top and awesome.
The only subsequent Robocop project that was able to recapture the lightning in a bottle the first movie caught is the 1994 live-action Robocop TV series. It was like a Robocop from a similar but alternate universe from the movie Robocop yet it captured the feel of that first movie better than anything else that came after it did.
Adding the character Commander Cash (mostly as a cartoon merchandising gimmick, but played in live-action by Roddy Piper in 1 episode) and a new theme song from Joe Walsh helped carve out this series' own legendary place as part of the Robocop franchise.
Belinda Bauer was such a beauty back then.
Robocop 2 isn't nearly as good as the first, which was a masterpiece. But 18 year old me loved it. Had both on laserdisc.
It’s been a minute since I’ve seen this one, but I always liked it. I liked the addition of Hob as well. I thought it made sense to add a kid to the drug gang because this was something that was happening in gangs then and still happens now. The youth of any area are easily susceptible to a quick dollar. So the added allure of rebelling against your parents is too strong and many young people find themselves in gangs. It makes a stronger message for RoboCop that as an almost will-less killing machine set out to stop crime, how can he achieve that goal against his most basic programming to protect children. It’s brilliant. And in the post-Reagan and the middle of the Bush dynasty in America, both the character’s inclusion and everyone’s reaction is apt. It’s like people have forgotten the Simpson’s Mrs. Lovejoy meme that is a satire of exactly what this movie is saying with Hob. Won’t someone please think of the children? Anyways…. I think the only part of RoboCop 2 that I feel falls flat is the lack of development for Tom Noonan’s character. We don’t really learn a whole lot about him as a man. Then he’s inside of an unstoppable killing machine and we don’t have any idea what that really would do to him. We just know “drugs bad” and this that it’s a bad decision putting him in there. And I think that’s where it misses the mark. If we are satirizing Reagan era politics here, why aren’t we coming for Nancy and her “just say no” dogma?
5:00 - that really sticks out as bizarre now. I remember RoboCop posters and merch was all over the place when I was at school yet I didn't see it till much later and was shocked how violent it was.
It wasn't quite as good as the first one. But I enjoyed the dark humor and the satire. And I thought the kid villain was one of the best parts of the movie. It was pretty good.
The dismantled Robocop haunted me for a long time.
Some serious foreshadowing in RC2 from Detroit declaring Bankruptcy and protests for defunding the police.
It falls into that trap of a sequel trying to live up to the high bar set by the first. Robo Cain’s design is amazing. All the visual effects are great in this film. the two suicidal “prototypes “ , Torso Murphy & Cain are all excellent. The story writing is where is falters. It’s an enjoyable film and will always hold a place in my childhood.
I would highly recommend the Robocop Rogue City Video game. It’s worth a play through just for the story.
Unpopular opinion: RoboCop 2 is better than the original. At least it could have been if they had released the uncut Version of it.
I always imagined that Hob was Cain's chosen successor, which is why he made him watch Duffy's torture to "harden" Hob and build a tolerance for violent stuff idk
Should've just had Clarence's brain used for Robocop 2, and maybe have Hob be his son, or some other tie to Clarence or Dick Jones. It would've mirrored the revenge plot of the first and raise the stakes, as Murphy barely defeated a human Clarence.
This movie taught me that a rolling stone is worth two in the bush
Life lessons that I'd buy for a dollar
It's by no means perfect, but compared to all the other RoboCop sequels in cinema, in television series, or reboots, it's by far the best of a bad bunch.
I really enjoyed this movie. At the time, it was the most violent movie I had ever seen in my life. It was shocking and appealed to me greatly at the time. Not as much these days but it brings back good memories watching it every so often.
I think the kid gangster and the reprogram of Robocop are great jabs to the intention of making a More kid friendly movie
Orion's rush to make the sequel def hurt the resulting film. The RoboKane design was really awesome, but I wish we had gotten to see the Corporate Wars developed as the sequel.
that RoboCain pinchy hand when he's going to insert the nuke will never be not funny.
I love the 2nd movie as well. Hell,in terms of today, it is probably a masterpiece. The 3rd one is painful to watch
The kid and Kane were awesome.Still have vivid images of them frightening the 20 year old me, just like Tim Curry on IT did it.Little kid kills all around?I say good job. Love the movie still.
The problem with anything that came after the original is they all ignore the fact that Murphy was on a journey to reclaim his humanity. We know he reclaimed it when he smiled and said, “Murphy” at the end. Every follow up made him a machine again.
Almost like Deathlok the demolisher comics.
Its awsome .great action ,ultra violent its up there with any follow up film .its got a very very sadistic feel to it and dosent pull its punches .the 1st is a masterpice but this is a worthly follow up
It was much too violent for those under age seventeen. But Robocop 2 was a wild ride indeed.
Maybe I'm biased because I lived around where RoboCop 2 was being filmed (I was in elementary at the time) but RoboCop 2 is one my favorites and will always have a special place in my heart.
It's not as good as the first, but s lot of sequels aren't. But it doesn't always mean they're bad either. There's a lot of great world building here and a lot of it still feels like it fits with what the first film laid down. Most importantly, this movie is just fun. I kind of wish maybe the finale did something with a bit more intelligent creativity to it rather than just a robot fight. But you know what it's a pretty sweet robot fight, it has one of the best implementations of switching from stop motion effects to practical effects and actors all in the same scene/shot. That one shot where he jumps off of the top of the truck onto Kane RoboCop is seamless how it transitions from live actor to stop motion model.
2 is a good movie despite retreading a lot of what made the first a great film. I didn't know people were so against the kid gangster. The Detroit depicted in the film is supposed to be an over the top dystopia. I always thought his character was fine in that framework.
As a kid, I liked it more than No.1
But as I'm not a kid anymore, it's clearly not as good. But it IS underrated.
Kane's gang should've been like Clarence Boddicker's gang, under someone in OCP! OCP the corporation should've been the main antagonist of all the movies!!
The first movie that i saw in a vhs as kid was Robocop 2, i was maybe 3/4 years old, my mother was against that i started seeing violent movies but my father didn't care 😂😂😂. Since then is my guilty pleasure movie. After Robocop 2 i saw T2, Predator and all Alien movies. What a great childhood... So many memories.
Robocop 2 was a good but flawed follow up to the original. I actually appreciated the Hob character - it is something that had never really been done before - a child being the leader of a drug gang.
Well, at least Damon had some decent voice-over work ahead. XD =)
I actually like the sequel as much as the first, but in different ways. 3? Not so much.