Well, if you need a full trunk space with 3 rows, then you buy a Navigator L. I have owned one since 2018 and it is a fantastic car! It is more comfortable than Escalade (the suspension is much better), more space in the 3rd row (good for a 6'2" person on a 7 hour trip), reliable and good off-roader (drove it in over a foot of snow). I'm extremely satisfied!
Note to Dealers (especially the one you bought it from): if I buy a car that doesnt start on that first day due to THEIR laziness or incompetence or shadyness or all three, I tell the delivery guy to take it back & cancel the order. Done.
@@williebender1895 I understand, not sure if applicable in ALL states, that once you sign on the dotted line when purchasing a car igt's a done deal. I always thought that in MD you had 3 days to cancel a large contract only to discover it doesn't apply on a car purchase. So check your state laws. I had issues with my Escalade and had to get rid of it. As much as I love those big trucks the quality is lacking and the manufacturer warranty isn't always what you think.
@@AttainingExcellence1 Exactly, especially since lincoln has a comprehensive premium warranty program through ford that covers electrical and electronics.
What kind of person buys an expensive luxury vehicle, notices problems, and doesn't have the dealer fix it immediately? Then just bends over and takes it when the dealer says some protective film voids the warranty. It was ~2 years old, so it should all be under warranty. Something doesn't add up. The camera issues seems to be a common problem with many Ford and Lincoln vehicles. Hopefully they have a fix for it by now.
I have a 2018 Navigator, more than 60k. I have no issues with my car. Regarding wireless charger: it does not work on Parking. Press D and it will work fine.
Something doesn’t add up here. Was this Navigator purchased used? Rebuilt or flood title? High mileage? He certainly left out some important details. All of these issues would be covered under warranty. Our Lincoln dealer rolls out the red carpet for its customers. Heck, they’ll even come pick up your vehicle for service and drop off a loaner at your home or office. This certainly cannot be taken as a credible review.
The wireless charging pad issue is due to iPhones with MagSafe not being compatible. Any iPhone 12 and above will have this problem. I tried my Samsung phone and that worked perfectly fine.
Not a fan of Fords but all those issues sound like something a manufacturer would fix under warranty without kicking up a fuss. You'd likely have similar issues on most newer cars
I personally would be leery about buying anything assembled during the pandemic. I’m not sure what the actual manufacturer date is on this particular truck, but with supply shortages, labor shortages and products being rushed through the final quality checks I would definitely be leery about buying anything without first seeing it in person and checking it out.
We are the proud owners of our own 2018 Navigator Reserve L and consider your purchase unfortunate. The L gives us sufficient trunk space. However, we have never had an adverse experience with it except the wireless charger and that seems to have been resolved. In fact all factory issues sent to our Navigator AP were expediently resolved. So sorry for your experience. Having owned Infinity models, I love our Navigator.
I feel like some of the issues he had was really with the dealership he had to interact with. Like the rear view camera clearly doesn’t work and I’m pretty sure they saw it, they just didn’t want to fix it. The thing about under warranty fixes is that the technicians are under paid to fix them and the dealership doesn’t make any more off of it. So if they can not fix it, they won’t. See what they did with the mirror? They clearly could have fixed it, but didn’t because the car was “wrapped”.
I've been seeing the beautiful Sky Blue Navigators alot. Love FORD as a family- Thanks 2 my Dad!!!! Sorry you had such an experience. I was candid about clicking bc I didn't want to be talked out of my future purchase but thanks for sharing.. Super Patient you are!!!
I have had 6 Navigators and just bought a 2023 and its amazing. Everything works and its incredible. Best car I have ever had. I also owned 4 Porsches including a [2012 911 turbo S] and like my Lincoln way more. This 2023 Lincoln Navigator reserve is the best SUV I have ever driven. It basically drives itself. Literally, "with the hands free". I cant wait to wake up every morning to drive my car. It has plenty of room in the back and it even massages my back while I'm driving. Wireless charger is perfect and the apple play is easy to use. Kudos to Lincoln for making the best SUV every made. It is a delight to drive this SUV every day. Disclosures - none. I don't have any relation to Lincoln or any of their dealers. I don't have a youtube channel or make any money on social media. Lincoln have never given me anything except free coffee at the dealer when I take the car for service.
Similar experience - on 4th and we have 2 right now (18 black label and 23 black label). Bad experience and seems like a dealer experience to me (they should make right or lemon / swap out).
Great post, I'm in the market for a large SUV, right now it's between the Platinum Escalade and the black label Navi. I owned a escalade years ago and it was a solid vehicle, but I like the look of the Navigators.
Had an 06 Navigator back in the day, drove it 170,000 miles, no problems and loved it!! Was thinking of getting another one, out of nostalgia, thanks for saving me the time and money. Should have already learned my lesson with ford and my Raptor that’s been nothing but engine problems since day one!!
I think the seller took advantage of you since the car was being delivered. This was prob their worst car on the lot and had to get rid of it somehow. My family had a navigator as well and it worked great except the lack of trunk space. It’s always a good idea to hire a mechanic to check everything out if you are getting your car delivered to you from elsewhere. Good stuff tho Ryan👏🏽
Happy to see this video..I want a new white Navi cause they're so gorgeous but I know deep down it's a nightmare waiting to happen. pS love that your a real estate family. I grew up in a real estate family. Driving around different neighborhoods is therapy !
Ford products are hit or miss on reliability. My parents bought one a while back and the running boards and one other thing were always having issues. It cost so much to repair the running boards that they sold it. Ford is NOT a quality product no matter what their truck buyers say. I noticed in my city the ones who are Ford cultists look like 60 year old hippies...
@@slamandgo Bruh, a PPI for a relatively new car?? ... Lincoln logic lmao. He wrapped the freaking car! He did nothing to the technological and mechanical components!
Never had any any of those issues with my Navi!!! Looks like you got a wrecked Navi, that someone had their janky shop fix..Seems like the Dealer played you for that amazing deal you got... Sounds like a Rebuilt title to me lol
I must say, other than the "limp mode" fuel pump issue, I don't see much to complain about. The phone charger issue could if fact be your phone rather than the vehicle, maybe not? Something could have happened to the mirror at any time, and if someone was doing something with it to alter its appearance, well?? However they should cover it under warranty. The rear camera is a software update or camera replacement, again warranty. I am sure this was purchased new???? You have comp "pick up and delivery" use it and it takes no time out of your life. Look, with any issues you may have encountered, it is still the KING OF THE HILL IN LUXURY SUVS!!
Thanks for making this comment so I didn't have to :-) I agreed, seems pretty nit-picky in an attempt to make a video to get views. As far as the $400, if you're not willing to go back in and get your money back then I wouldn't complain about it as it's not their fault you don't have the time. I do understand the frustration with dealers, I would prefer never to work with them but sometimes it's a necessary frustration to get things fixed.
Nailed it. He just needed a click-bait-y video title for his YT engagement farming "job". I rue the fact that my comment may send him an extra nickel as a reward for this BS.
Such a shame because they made a great vehicle. It would appear that you were unfortunate to possibly get a vehicle that was caught up in the issues that Ford had at some of their factories a year or so ago. I bet that's exactly what happened. What sucks is that the dealer leaves you hanging. I would contact Ford directly and see what they do. To be fair, Tesla also has some quality control issues. It happens in the industry. Again, unfortunately.
Charging for 30 mins vs 5 mins in and out to get gas, pass on the tesla!! Lincoln an Ford are only owned by the same owner. They aren't the same company .
@@MrNOAH504 not denying that , I would know. I sell the Lincoln for a living, an if your not buying from the Lincoln dealer, you may be buying someone’s issue…
What he experienced is what i am going through with my 2021 Aviator. Instrument cluster going dark while driving, car not starting, weird rattling noises in the dashboard area. The ride is not as good as the Navigator, mainly due to the large rims and low profile tires. The Aviator looks the part, but comes up a bit short with quality. I am now looking at Grand Highlanders as a replacement.
I have a Black Label L, plenty of storage space. One of the best vehicles I've ever owned. You bought the shorter version, I don't know what you expected...
I drive a 2021 Toyota Highlander, my side mirror also shakes. One of the mirrors fell off in the car wash. The navigation system has glitches…and the wireless charger is useless as well. I’ve also had several instances of hitting the brakes and it accelerating. Toyota, renowned for their quality, also has its issues.
We have a 2013, and as much as I love driving our truck, that thing has SO MANY weird electical issues. I love the way Lincoln feels, but they are so quirky.
This is not the L model right? Which is why there’s no room after the third row,.. same as most suvs these days. Without the extended wheelbase the 3rd row eats at the spare room.
We have a 2018 lincoln mkx for my wife and i love all the features but always have dumb electrical issues like the front camera not working intermittently, the auto highbeams not coming on for a while, the rear windshield fluid not dispensing the third brake lights burnt out… just to name a few, such a shame because it’s a really nice vehicle even has massage but these issues just make it feel cheap and make wanna get a old person lexus…
I have a '21 Navigator. Worst car purchase in my life. I haven't experienced any real problems like you have, but problems nonetheless. They're little things, but things you must deal with each and everytime you drive the car. I won't go into the details now. I totally regret buying a Lincoln. There is no way the premium you pay makes the purchase worth it.
Dumbest comment ever. “I won’t go into the details now”…..well then, STFU. You can’t describe the issues you have had, then you haven’t had any issues.
I’m not surprised you’ve been having these issues. Like mentioned from another comment Ford absolutely sucks for quality and inspection is basically non existent. On top of that your dealership experience is unfortunate, I would not settle for that but of course your very busy.
That’s super unfortunate. I have a Black Label Continental and though it’s been fantastic, I had 2 quality issues. One, the rear window screen stopped working and like yours, my backup camera is very wonky. They had a recall on it so I’m just waiting on the new camera. Everything else has been great. Much more reliable than my Bimmer.
I've owned 3 Navigators in the last ten years and wouldn't own anything else. No matter you're opinion, I wouldn't look back. I've never had an issue with any 3 I've owned and just kept up with regular maintenance.
I think ford was right for the mirror not being warranty, when you see mirrors painted if it’s done right that means you have to disassemble the mirror to paint it inside and out, then whoever put it back together didn’t put the glass on right, it’s most likely an easy fix just take back apart and tighten whatever it is that holds the glass to the assembly
Dude the Navigator usely have problems like this even with the mirror I drive and move thousands of them daily.. it look like the dealership purposely sold you a bad truck . These are uncommon problems with the Navigator
My Lincoln driver's side (left looking from inside the car) mirror did that...I took to the Dealer under the factory's warranty and Lincoln didn't want to pay... So I paid $300 because as "they said" they had to order a full mirror to change they couldn't take it apart to tight bolts or whatever... it had to be fully switched to a new one.
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I recently rented a almost new Lincoln Navigator. Was a great vehicle except that it rattled. Super comfortable. Drove great. I wouldn't think a luxury SUV with 5000 miles on it would rattle already. Also not crazy about the idea of a 6 cylinder engine in a big SUV. Would definitely rent another but I don't know if I'd buy one
Just chiming in on this old video for funsies: * The L solves the trunk space issue * The wireless charger is finicky af, basically this same issue on my 2020 Black Label * No mirror issue at all, that's weird * No backup camera issues like that, ever. Not once. Very weird. * Have, rarely, had to reboot the media system because it was being weird with Android Auto * Had a loaner drop dead at a stoplight once; the battery apparently chose that exact moment to fail catastrophically. Not our car, ours was in for annual maintenance * Have had a number of cosmetic and other small things that were our fault that Lincoln covered for us during maintenance, but maybe that's getting some credit for being Black Label? Overall we love the car.
Seems like the major lack of cargo space would've been solved if the right version would've been bought, the L, which has plenty of cargo space with all 3 seat rows up. The wireless charging, while nice, doesn't seem like a reason to ditch such a nice SUV. In reality, someone with common sense would've returned to the repair shop and asked them to properly fix the charging. Or, I'm sure you could've bought about 10 wireless charger USB pads, to keep around the interior, for under $100. The shaking drivers mirror, seems like a self inflicted issue honestly. As for the delivery issue where they couldn't start the SUV, which did you volunteer to jump it yourself? If you would've let the dealer handle that, they may have been forced to put in a new battery on their own.
Navigator vs Escalade? I'll pass on the Navigator but the escalade? I've heard some bad stories on the escalade as well ugh Great review helps out so much in my decision.
Why wasn’t your Warrenty covering. I would of called Lincoln complaint line. I had a air conditioning issue. I asked them to buy it back and they told me within 3 days they would. So I continue to buy them. I’ve never had other issues. Pray I don’t.
First 3 issues - nitpicking. Fourth issue - why is the back up camera not covered by warranty or fix it out of pocket? Third and Fifth issue - the Ford Dealer sometimes does not do the work but they charge you for it - happened to me and my brother.
Went to a trash dealer, there is a technical service bulletin out for the rear camera all of that should have been covered under warranty if you car was under 3 years 36,000 miles
It sometimes so happens that you're unlucky to get all the issues on an otherwise good-quality car. I am surprised there is no warranty for vehicles in the US!
Lucky guys having dealership, but I don't have it in Kazakhstan. Bought new Black label from San Diego and imporrted in 2019 and first one in my country, have the same problems. Additionally, front emblem doesn't lit and back door button is not working as well.
I’ve had issues with my Lincoln Navigator Black Label L. They just put a new transmission in a couple weeks ago, the phone charger is doing the same thing as yours. Everything else is great. But the service sucks at my dealership.
I didn’t buy a black label navigator due the issue with the back up camera… during the test drive it turns black like you show in the video… inaceptable in a $100 000 vehicle …no way
"it doesn't have a enough trunk space." Didn't you LOOK at the trunk BEFORE you purchased it? It is literally one of the two largest SUVs on the planet. Its competitor is BARELY larger on rear storage. But, you lose space for the rear seat passengers. We own the same 2020 and it is the "L" Black Label version because we knew we wanted the extra cargo space. Don't have any of the issues you mentioned. Our charger works fine with our iPhones. Down vote on your shallow review.
Since the car was bought new, you should have made Lincoln pay for everything. The issues other than limp mode are minor, but should all be fixed under warranty. Thats a 100k car. Also, you said you took it to ford? You need to go to a Lincoln dealer.
Sounds to me that the dealership you took it to sucks !!! I work for Ford motor company directly aka test vehicles and that dealership makes us as a whole look bad I’m surprised you Sydney look at the long wheelbase version though that would have fixed the cargo space problem
I have the L reserve and it has its issues that the dealership can’t seem to resolve as well!!! The electrical system is a nuisance!!!! And the blinker system!!!! OMG!! The nautilus we had as a rental had the same blinker and Bluetooth connection issues as well!!!! Great truck… but for the price and “luxury” affiliation ford Lincoln should’ve done wayyyyyyyy better!!!!! 🙄🙄🙄
These are all warranty issues, you should have gotten them fixed. Sounds like you are just chasing likes here. This is an amazing car with amazing service we get from our dealer. Any issues that arise, they will drive a loaner to the house and take the vehicle from us.
I love my navigator. Had an issue with the AC system. Covered under warranty. Would definitely go back with another navigator. The Ecoboost turbo blows the Escalade away and many other models away,.
The fact that the dealership states the battery is not covered on a brand new car that was just delivered is more than enough justification to NOT buy another ford product.
Watching this makes me even more happy I bought a Sequoia. Sure it's not nearly as posh and it wasn't cheap but what's there works incredibly well. As a minivan family I was a little worried but my worries got taken away when it drives like a beefy minivan and it's Toyota quality. So far money well spent. Oh and that beautiful v8 will easily throw you back in your seat making that purchase feel incredible. Just don't look for the SR5 model, go straight for Limited or Platinum. The premium is well worth it. Oh and it's not cheap on fuel. It's quite expensive but it is cheap on insurance. We owned Highlanders and Siennas, all have been cheap on insurance considering, but the Sequoia is somehow is only a few bucks more for us. So it was costly move but not a killer. It feels just as safe too.
The outdated interior, plastic canvas, and horrendous mpg on the Sequoia turned me away from it - and I was coming from a Sienna which I loved. But the last thing I wanted to do in my new car was endure another day with Entune and the overwhelmingly grey Toyota plastic. Now, the redesigned 2023 Sequoia would have definitely been on my short list when the 3 year leases came in 2026, but the space in the cabin isn't much better than a midsize SUV with 3 rows, so another Toyota swing and a miss. That only leaves Nissan (but the Armada is about as ugly as they come), Ford (turbo engine with high maintenance) and Chevy (cheap plastics) for full size SUV road trip comfort.
@wazatna If cheap plastics and MPG was my main concern I would have never bought a Saturn Relay years ago. It was far thirsty than our grand caravans of ore with far less power. This was quite possibly my most worst vehicle purchase to date. But it did one thing our grand caravan didn't.. it got me by good enough to pay off our home. No major transmission issues, no major rusting. It just kept going. I could have bought something else and damn near anything else could have been an upgrade from that. But I didn't and the slug Saturn just kept running. Cheap plastics, poor mpg and despite being heated and leather, the worst seats in any minivan I ever drove. Yet 20 below zero I could depend on that van to start. It might have drove like it was built on stilts and it had no power, it started and drove. That counts for something in my book. The Sequoia might suffer from cheap plastics and poor MPG, it too has been extremely reliable. You couldn't pay me to take a chance on these modern v6 models. It's not worth the few MPGs to risk. The Sequoia might be lacking in modern touches, it's as old school as it gets I assure you it will probably survive our environment much longer than any of these you mentioned. Nissan is the only other full size I would consider because of that. We loved the Landcruiser. I just can't do that 3rd row. We lovw camping up north and the Sequoia has been one of best camping vehicles we've ever taken. Sure I agree it's MPG is atrocious, it's the Sequoia's worst feature. But for my money it was a good choice. I've never gotten in and regretted buying it unlike our Saturn Relay.
Hi, I told you when you made your video when you bought your SUV to buy either the Toyota Sequoia, Land Cruiser, or Lexus GX or LX Series of SUV's. Those are roomy and everything on them is SUPER reliable. The 2UZ series engine that's in these SUVs is bulletproof, lasts over a half a million miles. Plus they don't depreciate like a rock like Ford products. A fuel pump replaced after just a year? Come on! What Ford garbage. Today's Ford and GM products are worthless money pits. They're always at the shop. Avoid them at all costs. They will sooner or later leave your wife stranded on the road. I kinda was expecting you were going to make another video regretting your Lincoln purchase. And I was right. Ask your car buddy to advise you to buy one of these. They don't depreciate. It's a smart buying decision. You can buy one that's a few years old and save a lot of money. They're basically new. You can buy an extended warrantee but with a Toyota product, your just basically wasting your money. Lexus trucks are so reliable. Make sure you get one built in JAPAN!
@@rashid138888Infinity is hit or miss but Toyota is about as reliable as a car can get. I owned a QX 56 and it was damn near garbage. I have owned a Sequoia and ran it raged on Nigerian horrible pothole cratered roads plus swamps and it never gave up in 200k + miles. I had to sell it when I returned to US. It was no where as nice as my infinity but I slept like a baby for almost a decade compared to the nightmares Infinity gave me for 2 years.
I owed a lot of luxury cars. 2022 Escalade, qx80, bmw x7 , lexus lx570 and much, Tahoe and all fairly new I owe Lincoln Blake label now, and this car is simply amazing. Best in its class. No issues at all of any kind. This guy is full of sh... or he got a lemon.
I loved the new Navigator when it got this top down redesign in 2018, but after this review I’m going to pass. These flaws are unacceptable in a luxury vehicle especially considering how much they refuse to fix.
I wouldn't write it off completely. The factories had some issues about a year or so go. He probably got one that was caught up in that. I would research that 1st.
Every manufacture have had issues with a car here and there. If everyone who owns one has issues with it I’d pass but one TH-camr wouldn’t be enough for me not to buy a car.
This is such a shame for how nice these trucks are. You would thing for a $90k+ truck they would work right. Our Denali has the same wireless charging issue, that is kind of annoying lol.
I’m confused, why buy a car after you go to the car lot and test drive it or go see if it’s a good fit for you in your family. So it’s not Lincoln fault it’s your you bought it.🤔
Never listen to someone with blue hair.
Agreed, what a fruit loop this guy is.
Well, if you need a full trunk space with 3 rows, then you buy a Navigator L. I have owned one since 2018 and it is a fantastic car! It is more comfortable than Escalade (the suspension is much better), more space in the 3rd row (good for a 6'2" person on a 7 hour trip), reliable and good off-roader (drove it in over a foot of snow). I'm extremely satisfied!
Looking into getting one over a suburban
The infotainment was a deal breaker for me. It's laggy
How reliable to compare Escalade or Tahoe? Just bought 5.4. Navigator 2014 Triton engine
More useful than the video - thanks :D
I have a 2019 Navigator and I’ve never had a problem with it. Currently have 162,000 miles on it.
Note to Dealers (especially the one you bought it from): if I buy a car that doesnt start on that first day due to THEIR laziness or incompetence or shadyness or all three, I tell the delivery guy to take it back & cancel the order. Done.
Me too
@@williebender1895 I understand, not sure if applicable in ALL states, that once you sign on the dotted line when purchasing a car igt's a done deal. I always thought that in MD you had 3 days to cancel a large contract only to discover it doesn't apply on a car purchase. So check your state laws. I had issues with my Escalade and had to get rid of it. As much as I love those big trucks the quality is lacking and the manufacturer warranty isn't always what you think.
Something is fishing with he's story, it sounds like he bought it used from a auction or something 🤔
@@AttainingExcellence1 Exactly, especially since lincoln has a comprehensive premium warranty program through ford that covers electrical and electronics.
Yes no way he should’ve jumped the car for them and took delivery
What kind of person buys an expensive luxury vehicle, notices problems, and doesn't have the dealer fix it immediately? Then just bends over and takes it when the dealer says some protective film voids the warranty. It was ~2 years old, so it should all be under warranty. Something doesn't add up.
The camera issues seems to be a common problem with many Ford and Lincoln vehicles. Hopefully they have a fix for it by now.
I have a 2018 Navigator, more than 60k. I have no issues with my car. Regarding wireless charger: it does not work on Parking. Press D and it will work fine.
Oil consumption?
Something doesn’t add up here. Was this Navigator purchased used? Rebuilt or flood title? High mileage? He certainly left out some important details. All of these issues would be covered under warranty. Our Lincoln dealer rolls out the red carpet for its customers. Heck, they’ll even come pick up your vehicle for service and drop off a loaner at your home or office. This certainly cannot be taken as a credible review.
The wireless charging pad issue is due to iPhones with MagSafe not being compatible. Any iPhone 12 and above will have this problem. I tried my Samsung phone and that worked perfectly fine.
Not a fan of Fords but all those issues sound like something a manufacturer would fix under warranty without kicking up a fuss. You'd likely have similar issues on most newer cars
this dude is super patient, a car is doa, they gotta take it back...especially one that cost so much money....
Patient or foolish?
Spund like a lemon
I personally would be leery about buying anything assembled during the pandemic. I’m not sure what the actual manufacturer date is on this particular truck, but with supply shortages, labor shortages and products being rushed through the final quality checks I would definitely be leery about buying anything without first seeing it in person and checking it out.
Definitely been my experience get pre 2020
It's all of the 2018+. Junk!
We are the proud owners of our own 2018 Navigator Reserve L and consider your purchase unfortunate. The L gives us sufficient trunk space. However, we have never had an adverse experience with it except the wireless charger and that seems to have been resolved.
In fact all factory issues sent to our Navigator AP were expediently resolved. So sorry for your experience. Having owned Infinity models, I love our Navigator.
I feel like some of the issues he had was really with the dealership he had to interact with.
Like the rear view camera clearly doesn’t work and I’m pretty sure they saw it, they just didn’t want to fix it. The thing about under warranty fixes is that the technicians are under paid to fix them and the dealership doesn’t make any more off of it. So if they can not fix it, they won’t. See what they did with the mirror? They clearly could have fixed it, but didn’t because the car was “wrapped”.
I've been seeing the beautiful Sky Blue Navigators alot. Love FORD as a family- Thanks 2 my Dad!!!! Sorry you had such an experience. I was candid about clicking bc I didn't want to be talked out of my future purchase but thanks for sharing.. Super Patient you are!!!
I have had 6 Navigators and just bought a 2023 and its amazing. Everything works and its incredible. Best car I have ever had. I also owned 4 Porsches including a [2012 911 turbo S] and like my Lincoln way more. This 2023 Lincoln Navigator reserve is the best SUV I have ever driven. It basically drives itself. Literally, "with the hands free". I cant wait to wake up every morning to drive my car. It has plenty of room in the back and it even massages my back while I'm driving. Wireless charger is perfect and the apple play is easy to use. Kudos to Lincoln for making the best SUV every made. It is a delight to drive this SUV every day. Disclosures - none. I don't have any relation to Lincoln or any of their dealers. I don't have a youtube channel or make any money on social media. Lincoln have never given me anything except free coffee at the dealer when I take the car for service.
Similar experience - on 4th and we have 2 right now (18 black label and 23 black label).
Bad experience and seems like a dealer experience to me (they should make right or lemon / swap out).
You have lot experience if compare how reliable are 3 Gen 5.4 engine 2014 year in other gens Or even ecobust? Thanks ❤
Own 2018 Navigator L and have had no issues - overall works fantastic, unfortunately seems like you got a Lemon
Yeah even I have a Navigator and it seems to work just fine
Great post, I'm in the market for a large SUV, right now it's between the Platinum Escalade and the black label Navi. I owned a escalade years ago and it was a solid vehicle, but I like the look of the Navigators.
D bag bought it for a tax write off.. then completed about trunk space umm fold the 3rd row you never use or need problem solved
Had an 06 Navigator back in the day, drove it 170,000 miles, no problems and loved it!! Was thinking of getting another one, out of nostalgia, thanks for saving me the time and money. Should have already learned my lesson with ford and my Raptor that’s been nothing but engine problems since day one!!
I think the seller took advantage of you since the car was being delivered. This was prob their worst car on the lot and had to get rid of it somehow. My family had a navigator as well and it worked great except the lack of trunk space. It’s always a good idea to hire a mechanic to check everything out if you are getting your car delivered to you from elsewhere. Good stuff tho Ryan👏🏽
His wife ordered it brand new. Not a bad theory but I think you missed that detail at the start, hence the pink accents on it
@@miketheless8167 nah he had it customized at a place in Las Vegas other than the dealer. He made a vid about it a while back.
Happy to see this video..I want a new white Navi cause they're so gorgeous but I know deep down it's a nightmare waiting to happen. pS love that your a real estate family. I grew up in a real estate family. Driving around different neighborhoods is therapy !
Ford products are hit or miss on reliability. My parents bought one a while back and the running boards and one other thing were always having issues. It cost so much to repair the running boards that they sold it. Ford is NOT a quality product no matter what their truck buyers say. I noticed in my city the ones who are Ford cultists look like 60 year old hippies...
@@slamandgo Bruh, a PPI for a relatively new car?? ... Lincoln logic lmao. He wrapped the freaking car! He did nothing to the technological and mechanical components!
Never had any any of those issues with my Navi!!!
Looks like you got a wrecked Navi, that someone had their janky shop fix..Seems like the Dealer played you for that amazing deal you got... Sounds like a Rebuilt title to me lol
I must say, other than the "limp mode" fuel pump issue, I don't see much to complain about. The phone charger issue could if fact be your phone rather than the vehicle, maybe not? Something could have happened to the mirror at any time, and if someone was doing something with it to alter its appearance, well?? However they should cover it under warranty. The rear camera is a software update or camera replacement, again warranty. I am sure this was purchased new???? You have comp "pick up and delivery" use it and it takes no time out of your life. Look, with any issues you may have encountered, it is still the KING OF THE HILL IN LUXURY SUVS!!
Bruhh it’s not 😂
Nowadays new phones require so much power to charge that the wireless might not be enough
Thanks for making this comment so I didn't have to :-) I agreed, seems pretty nit-picky in an attempt to make a video to get views. As far as the $400, if you're not willing to go back in and get your money back then I wouldn't complain about it as it's not their fault you don't have the time. I do understand the frustration with dealers, I would prefer never to work with them but sometimes it's a necessary frustration to get things fixed.
The wireless chargers don't work.
Nailed it. He just needed a click-bait-y video title for his YT engagement farming "job". I rue the fact that my comment may send him an extra nickel as a reward for this BS.
Unsubbed. Tired of these thumbnails that looks like you just got the shocker.
Exactly
Such a shame because they made a great vehicle. It would appear that you were unfortunate to possibly get a vehicle that was caught up in the issues that Ford had at some of their factories a year or so ago. I bet that's exactly what happened. What sucks is that the dealer leaves you hanging. I would contact Ford directly and see what they do. To be fair, Tesla also has some quality control issues. It happens in the industry. Again, unfortunately.
Charging for 30 mins vs 5 mins in and out to get gas, pass on the tesla!! Lincoln an Ford are only owned by the same owner. They aren't the same company .
@@Ali-kr2yn Ford Motor Company is the parent company. They definitely share some of the same parts and such.
@@MrNOAH504 not denying that , I would know. I sell the Lincoln for a living, an if your not buying from the Lincoln dealer, you may be buying someone’s issue…
What he experienced is what i am going through with my 2021 Aviator. Instrument cluster going dark while driving, car not starting, weird rattling noises in the dashboard area. The ride is not as good as the Navigator, mainly due to the large rims and low profile tires.
The Aviator looks the part, but comes up a bit short with quality. I am now looking at Grand Highlanders as a replacement.
you are lying! Navigator comes with a 100% free battery replacement for the first 2 years and 30K miles
@@S58985You are wrong too. Try 4 years, 50,000 miles.
You bought a used car without driving It and checking it out didn’t you.
Great video. I'm now a subscriber.
@0:22 who drives around with their 3 seat up? Mine is always down because I’m Always carrying stuff.
his hair matches the Bigfoot truck that he showed a little clip of… Really cute!!😂😂😂😂
What a patient person you are, I would've send the thing back right away
I have a Black Label L, plenty of storage space. One of the best vehicles I've ever owned. You bought the shorter version, I don't know what you expected...
Thank you for posting this video. What year is this Navigator in the video? Somehow I missed hearing what year it is.
I drive a 2021 Toyota Highlander, my side mirror also shakes. One of the mirrors fell off in the car wash. The navigation system has glitches…and the wireless charger is useless as well. I’ve also had several instances of hitting the brakes and it accelerating. Toyota, renowned for their quality, also has its issues.
I feel for you, bro. too bad you got so much issues on that navigator. The warranty sucked big time.😢
We have a 2013, and as much as I love driving our truck, that thing has SO MANY weird electical issues. I love the way Lincoln feels, but they are so quirky.
This is not the L model right? Which is why there’s no room after the third row,.. same as most suvs these days. Without the extended wheelbase the 3rd row eats at the spare room.
These new Navigators look awesome, but they are probably a nightmare reliability wise. I am not gonna touch one later than 2017.
They are more reliable than the older navigator
Saying Probably doesnt make it true
We have a 2018 lincoln mkx for my wife and i love all the features but always have dumb electrical issues like the front camera not working intermittently, the auto highbeams not coming on for a while, the rear windshield fluid not dispensing the third brake lights burnt out… just to name a few, such a shame because it’s a really nice vehicle even has massage but these issues just make it feel cheap and make wanna get a old person lexus…
The moment the car doesnt start you gotta return it. This was probably a car that rolled off the assembly line on a Friday lol
🤣🤣
Easier said than done
I have a '21 Navigator. Worst car purchase in my life. I haven't experienced any real problems like you have, but problems nonetheless. They're little things, but things you must deal with each and everytime you drive the car. I won't go into the details now. I totally regret buying a Lincoln. There is no way the premium you pay makes the purchase worth it.
What sort of problems
It's just a pretty Ford Expedition. I have a 2010 Navigator and experienced some problems early on, but I have had 10 years of no major issues.
Dumbest comment ever. “I won’t go into the details now”…..well then, STFU. You can’t describe the issues you have had, then you haven’t had any issues.
I’m not surprised you’ve been having these issues. Like mentioned from another comment Ford absolutely sucks for quality and inspection is basically non existent. On top of that your dealership experience is unfortunate, I would not settle for that but of course your very busy.
That’s super unfortunate. I have a Black Label Continental and though it’s been fantastic, I had 2 quality issues. One, the rear window screen stopped working and like yours, my backup camera is very wonky. They had a recall on it so I’m just waiting on the new camera. Everything else has been great. Much more reliable than my Bimmer.
When you buy something and never take it to the dealer to be fixed lol
I've owned 3 Navigators in the last ten years and wouldn't own anything else. No matter you're opinion, I wouldn't look back. I've never had an issue with any 3 I've owned and just kept up with regular maintenance.
at what milege point do they start nickle and diming as far as problems
Continuously calling that vehicle a car is annoying as hell.
He's full of sht all that's covered under warranty
I think ford was right for the mirror not being warranty, when you see mirrors painted if it’s done right that means you have to disassemble the mirror to paint it inside and out, then whoever put it back together didn’t put the glass on right, it’s most likely an easy fix just take back apart and tighten whatever it is that holds the glass to the assembly
Brother you gotta expose these sorry dealerships stop taking the high road
Dude the Navigator usely have problems like this even with the mirror I drive and move thousands of them daily.. it look like the dealership purposely sold you a bad truck . These are uncommon problems with the Navigator
My Lincoln driver's side (left looking from inside the car) mirror did that...I took to the Dealer under the factory's warranty and Lincoln didn't want to pay... So I paid $300 because as "they said" they had to order a full mirror to change they couldn't take it apart to tight bolts or whatever... it had to be fully switched to a new one.
While I didn’t have such a nice truck, I did have a 2008 Expedition that suddenly went into “limp mode”. Not fun at all!
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Apparently my view on the solution is to venture into business .
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I Have A 2020 Lincoln Navigator Brand New Off The Lot And Haven’t Had Any Issues. Yes The Trunk Space Is Not Big, But I Can Always Let Down My Seats
Nice video! I was planning on getting a Navigator I was already cautious but now thankfully I changed my mind!
I recently rented a almost new Lincoln Navigator. Was a great vehicle except that it rattled. Super comfortable. Drove great. I wouldn't think a luxury SUV with 5000 miles on it would rattle already. Also not crazy about the idea of a 6 cylinder engine in a big SUV. Would definitely rent another but I don't know if I'd buy one
Just chiming in on this old video for funsies:
* The L solves the trunk space issue
* The wireless charger is finicky af, basically this same issue on my 2020 Black Label
* No mirror issue at all, that's weird
* No backup camera issues like that, ever. Not once. Very weird.
* Have, rarely, had to reboot the media system because it was being weird with Android Auto
* Had a loaner drop dead at a stoplight once; the battery apparently chose that exact moment to fail catastrophically. Not our car, ours was in for annual maintenance
* Have had a number of cosmetic and other small things that were our fault that Lincoln covered for us during maintenance, but maybe that's getting some credit for being Black Label?
Overall we love the car.
Ooh my gosh, I was getting ready to buy one. I use my back up camera everyday. Don’t want any of these issues.
Seems like the major lack of cargo space would've been solved if the right version would've been bought, the L, which has plenty of cargo space with all 3 seat rows up.
The wireless charging, while nice, doesn't seem like a reason to ditch such a nice SUV. In reality, someone with common sense would've returned to the repair shop and asked them to properly fix the charging. Or, I'm sure you could've bought about 10 wireless charger USB pads, to keep around the interior, for under $100.
The shaking drivers mirror, seems like a self inflicted issue honestly.
As for the delivery issue where they couldn't start the SUV, which did you volunteer to jump it yourself? If you would've let the dealer handle that, they may have been forced to put in a new battery on their own.
Navigator vs Escalade? I'll pass on the Navigator but the escalade? I've heard some bad stories on the escalade as well ugh Great review helps out so much in my decision.
Why wasn’t your Warrenty covering. I would of called Lincoln complaint line. I had a air conditioning issue. I asked them to buy it back and they told me within 3 days they would. So I continue to buy them. I’ve never had other issues. Pray I don’t.
First 3 issues - nitpicking. Fourth issue - why is the back up camera not covered by warranty or fix it out of pocket? Third and Fifth issue - the Ford Dealer sometimes does not do the work but they charge you for it - happened to me and my brother.
Went to a trash dealer, there is a technical service bulletin out for the rear camera all of that should have been covered under warranty if you car was under 3 years 36,000 miles
There are issues currently with Lincoln and Ford due to recall repair of back up camera. All sales are on hold.
It sometimes so happens that you're unlucky to get all the issues on an otherwise good-quality car. I am surprised there is no warranty for vehicles in the US!
Good quality? Do i have to show you consumer reports?
you should reboot the system it might fix backup camera issue
Lucky guys having dealership, but I don't have it in Kazakhstan. Bought new Black label from San Diego and imporrted in 2019 and first one in my country, have the same problems. Additionally, front emblem doesn't lit and back door button is not working as well.
I’ve had issues with my Lincoln Navigator Black Label L. They just put a new transmission in a couple weeks ago, the phone charger is doing the same thing as yours. Everything else is great. But the service sucks at my dealership.
What state are you in?
I didn’t buy a black label navigator due the issue with the back up camera… during the test drive it turns black like you show in the video… inaceptable in a $100 000 vehicle …no way
Thanks for saying the truth people with influence should start exposing cars like these taking money from the hard working folks
"it doesn't have a enough trunk space." Didn't you LOOK at the trunk BEFORE you purchased it? It is literally one of the two largest SUVs on the planet. Its competitor is BARELY larger on rear storage. But, you lose space for the rear seat passengers. We own the same 2020 and it is the "L" Black Label version because we knew we wanted the extra cargo space. Don't have any of the issues you mentioned. Our charger works fine with our iPhones. Down vote on your shallow review.
That’s so weird my grandmother got a 2019 navigator and it did not have the shaking mirrors or the blank backup camera or any of the other problems
Since the car was bought new, you should have made Lincoln pay for everything. The issues other than limp mode are minor, but should all be fixed under warranty. Thats a 100k car.
Also, you said you took it to ford? You need to go to a Lincoln dealer.
Dude has blue hair, I’m surprised he didn’t take it to the Chevy dealer. What a fruit loop.
Sounds to me that the dealership you took it to sucks !!! I work for Ford motor company directly aka test vehicles and that dealership makes us as a whole look bad I’m surprised you Sydney look at the long wheelbase version though that would have fixed the cargo space problem
it fixed the 3rd row seating problem. I think if some one wanted the extra cargo go with the L version
Great review. I was looking at buying a Navigator today. This makes me second guess it.
Glad I could help!
Read everyone else’s reviews and you’ll be very happy, I’m sure..
Fantastic vehicle!
I have the L reserve and it has its issues that the dealership can’t seem to resolve as well!!! The electrical system is a nuisance!!!! And the blinker system!!!! OMG!! The nautilus we had as a rental had the same blinker and Bluetooth connection issues as well!!!! Great truck… but for the price and “luxury” affiliation ford Lincoln should’ve done wayyyyyyyy better!!!!! 🙄🙄🙄
I love mine man I’m sorry dude that sucks but u have had zero issues with mine I love it
I've hear a lot of bad stories of bad stories about cars made after 2019 iykwim. Best of luck fella
I had the limp mode issue at 108k miles in my 2018 navigator 😢
Then out of the blue, the car exploded and blew my arm off. I was like well, It's not that big of a deal,so i kept the car😂
Did you even put it in reverse to see the backup camera? My backup camera only comes on when I ACTUALLY PUT IT IN REVERSE GEAR.
These are all warranty issues, you should have gotten them fixed. Sounds like you are just chasing likes here. This is an amazing car with amazing service we get from our dealer. Any issues that arise, they will drive a loaner to the house and take the vehicle from us.
That sucks! I'm having similar stupid problems with my Yukon Denali. You'd think when you pay $100k it would be work the way it's supposed to.
Why would you pay for a battery? It’s part of the warranty. Silly. I have never heard of Lincoln not doing all they could to take care of clients.
I love my navigator. Had an issue with the AC system. Covered under warranty. Would definitely go back with another navigator. The Ecoboost turbo blows the Escalade away and many other models away,.
The fact that the dealership states the battery is not covered on a brand new car that was just delivered is more than enough justification to NOT buy another ford product.
Its just his local dealership, even if you buy a used Lincoln from the Lincoln dealer, battery is covered.
If this had a V8 at least as an option, I’d be all for it.
The 3.5 twin turbo is a raptor motor. And it’s more powerful than the escalade.
@@SloBimmers Yeah ig
Dude this thing is awesome
People always say that American cars are better now and there not lemons but Ryan story proves otherwise.
His story proves his hair is blue like his balls after you visit him.
Did you try the wireless charger without the case? overall, definitely got a lemon of a car. sorry to see it
Watching this makes me even more happy I bought a Sequoia. Sure it's not nearly as posh and it wasn't cheap but what's there works incredibly well. As a minivan family I was a little worried but my worries got taken away when it drives like a beefy minivan and it's Toyota quality. So far money well spent. Oh and that beautiful v8 will easily throw you back in your seat making that purchase feel incredible. Just don't look for the SR5 model, go straight for Limited or Platinum. The premium is well worth it. Oh and it's not cheap on fuel. It's quite expensive but it is cheap on insurance. We owned Highlanders and Siennas, all have been cheap on insurance considering, but the Sequoia is somehow is only a few bucks more for us. So it was costly move but not a killer. It feels just as safe too.
The outdated interior, plastic canvas, and horrendous mpg on the Sequoia turned me away from it - and I was coming from a Sienna which I loved. But the last thing I wanted to do in my new car was endure another day with Entune and the overwhelmingly grey Toyota plastic. Now, the redesigned 2023 Sequoia would have definitely been on my short list when the 3 year leases came in 2026, but the space in the cabin isn't much better than a midsize SUV with 3 rows, so another Toyota swing and a miss. That only leaves Nissan (but the Armada is about as ugly as they come), Ford (turbo engine with high maintenance) and Chevy (cheap plastics) for full size SUV road trip comfort.
@wazatna If cheap plastics and MPG was my main concern I would have never bought a Saturn Relay years ago. It was far thirsty than our grand caravans of ore with far less power. This was quite possibly my most worst vehicle purchase to date. But it did one thing our grand caravan didn't.. it got me by good enough to pay off our home. No major transmission issues, no major rusting. It just kept going. I could have bought something else and damn near anything else could have been an upgrade from that. But I didn't and the slug Saturn just kept running. Cheap plastics, poor mpg and despite being heated and leather, the worst seats in any minivan I ever drove. Yet 20 below zero I could depend on that van to start. It might have drove like it was built on stilts and it had no power, it started and drove. That counts for something in my book. The Sequoia might suffer from cheap plastics and poor MPG, it too has been extremely reliable. You couldn't pay me to take a chance on these modern v6 models. It's not worth the few MPGs to risk. The Sequoia might be lacking in modern touches, it's as old school as it gets I assure you it will probably survive our environment much longer than any of these you mentioned. Nissan is the only other full size I would consider because of that. We loved the Landcruiser. I just can't do that 3rd row. We lovw camping up north and the Sequoia has been one of best camping vehicles we've ever taken. Sure I agree it's MPG is atrocious, it's the Sequoia's worst feature. But for my money it was a good choice. I've never gotten in and regretted buying it unlike our Saturn Relay.
Same. It's either this or the Audi SUV for me.
Hi, I told you when you made your video when you bought your SUV to buy either the Toyota Sequoia, Land Cruiser, or Lexus GX or LX Series of SUV's. Those are roomy and everything on them is SUPER reliable. The 2UZ series engine that's in these SUVs is bulletproof, lasts over a half a million miles. Plus they don't depreciate like a rock like Ford products. A fuel pump replaced after just a year? Come on! What Ford garbage. Today's Ford and GM products are worthless money pits. They're always at the shop. Avoid them at all costs. They will sooner or later leave your wife stranded on the road. I kinda was expecting you were going to make another video regretting your Lincoln purchase. And I was right. Ask your car buddy to advise you to buy one of these. They don't depreciate. It's a smart buying decision. You can buy one that's a few years old and save a lot of money. They're basically new. You can buy an extended warrantee but with a Toyota product, your just basically wasting your money. Lexus trucks are so reliable. Make sure you get one built in JAPAN!
You would pick a land Cruiser over a Q80? I am not sure what to buy.
@@amyortiz279 Q80 is best choose
@@rashid138888Infinity is hit or miss but Toyota is about as reliable as a car can get. I owned a QX 56 and it was damn near garbage. I have owned a Sequoia and ran it raged on Nigerian horrible pothole cratered roads plus swamps and it never gave up in 200k + miles. I had to sell it when I returned to US. It was no where as nice as my infinity but I slept like a baby for almost a decade compared to the nightmares Infinity gave me for 2 years.
at least you had issue with accelerator, imagine if you try to hit the break while driving and finding out that its not working
Unless you're passing a car and your transmission just stops and you have no power for 5-7 seconds.
So he didn’t have time to bring his car back? And lost $400. His wife can’t take it? Lol.
Great vid, will appreciate some info about those wheels/tires!!
I’m not really nit picky, heads straight to TH-cam to complain about a Lincoln! 😂🤦🏻♂️
I owed a lot of luxury cars. 2022 Escalade, qx80, bmw x7 , lexus lx570 and much, Tahoe and all fairly new
I owe Lincoln Blake label now, and this car is simply amazing. Best in its class. No issues at all of any kind.
This guy is full of sh... or he got a lemon.
I loved the new Navigator when it got this top down redesign in 2018, but after this review I’m going to pass. These flaws are unacceptable in a luxury vehicle especially considering how much they refuse to fix.
I wouldn't write it off completely. The factories had some issues about a year or so go. He probably got one that was caught up in that. I would research that 1st.
Every manufacture have had issues with a car here and there. If everyone who owns one has issues with it I’d pass but one TH-camr wouldn’t be enough for me not to buy a car.
Every car has problems. Nobody makes a "perfect" car. If they did, they would go out of business.
@@PearlJamFanLV Lexus,/Toyota but theyre ugly
@@jayc4715 Stop by a local Toyota or Lexus store and check out their service department. My guess is it'll be full of vehicles being repaired.
No warranty?
This is such a shame for how nice these trucks are. You would thing for a $90k+ truck they would work right. Our Denali has the same wireless charging issue, that is kind of annoying lol.
I’m confused, why buy a car after you go to the car lot and test drive it or go see if it’s a good fit for you in your family. So it’s not Lincoln fault it’s your you bought it.🤔
I bought a 2018 navigator 6 months ago. I had it for 3 weeks transmission started shifting weird ford has had it for over 5 months can't fix.