Loved what she said about how young queer people should listen to older queer people's stories more! Also the "hey momma"... absolutely took my breath away.
To all our “old” lesbians out there, thank you from the bottom of my heart for being the one group of people who helped my friends & their friends back during the AIDS Epidemic (late 1980s/early 1990s) when no one else would!!! I would say 95% of “young” LGBTQ people have no idea that during the peak of the AIDS Epidemic, nurses and doctors REFUSED to provide healthcare for gay men dying of AIDS…but our amazing lesbians stepped up and gave them the love and attention they needed while some of them recovered, but more importantly when most of them died. My appearance belies my actual age, but being in my 50s, I remember how scary it was back then, and how straight ppl would spread lies about us gay men and I’m just thankful the internet wouldn’t really become popular for another decade ‘cause misinformation spreads like wildfire on here. These “old” lesbians will always be the ultimate queens to me ‘cause they’re just cut from a special cloth…they’ll always have the utmost respect from this “old” gay! ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜 Lotsa love and aloha from Honolulu! 😄🤙🏽❤️🌈😓
Thank you for sharing your story! I don't know a lot of older queer people, but I'm grateful for all of you who speak online. It means so much to me as a baby queer, to be able to hear from people like me in different stages of life
@@snem9381 You’re very welcome. So much has happened in my lifetime as a gay man, running the gamut from being rαped the first time I had (anal) sex to getting to compete at the Gay Games (had no idea so many gay men play sports!), from being an escort to pay for my tuition while I was in my doctoral program to meeting some of the best & most loyal friends anyone could ask for in this world. Take all of it in ‘cause it all shapes who we are, and strife only holds us back if YOU allow it to do so…YOU always have the option to to use strife to elevate yourself. Love & aloha from Kaimukī, Hawaiʻi! 😄🤙🏽❤️🌈☀️
Bella seems like a restless spirit that just needs peace, I feel like she's been fighting the fight for so long. I truly hope she gets the easy end of things from now on
I'm trans and I absolutely agree with that whole: don't give older queer people shit for missing a pronoun or not using the most modern language, for fuck's sake. A lot of young trans people are so used to malicious deadnaming and misgendering that they'll jump at the throat of people who are very clearly allies.
nah this is so real tho. i get misgendered all the time, but i know it's not malicious. the community i have around me in school is so supporting that sometimes i even feel comfortable enough to forget i'm trans for a few minutes and just enjoy being a teenager.
I feel compelled to answer "same" here too... But yeah, I grew up mostly without internalised homophobia, so that when I did get my first crush last year I wasn't in denial. I always had the "My sexuality? We'll see." mentality. And eventhough I'm asexual and (so) never had crushes on TV characters like people seem to have, I just always knew I was gay? Growing up I wanted short hair and I wore t-shirts, jeans and never pink. So yeah I guess I just wanna thank our predecessors who prepared the world for us :)
If there were more 'older' lesbians as TH-camrs, I feel like they could go viral with all the love, hope, and encouragement they could give to everyone including those who've lost or still lose families, friends, and communities for whatever reason. Plus, it would help remind people that even though the Trans movement is going through these issues now, 40-50 years later, we might just have a more accepting society as long as we continue being true to ourselves and supporting those who need it.
Right off the bat her first point really made me see stuff. We always talk about history of repressed minority groups but one that we don't talk about too much is the history of LGBTQ groups. We are really focused on the present, WHICH IS GREAT, but I think we should also put some time to look at what people back in the day had to go through. That almost means being considerate for those struggles and knowledgeable about them
i also think the lgbt community is really divided now, in my experience. we are hyper focused on labeling and boxing. most of the accounts I've seen or heard of older lgbt people give off an air of stronger unity within the community.
@@arijeanz it is really frustrating to see tbh. i understand the value of labels/words to truly understand your own and others' experiences... and at the same time, focusing on that too much can really take away from the fact that being lgbtqia+/queer is still not widely accepted let alone protected. i grew up during the time that the internet got real big on Discourse(tm) and i found that it's really easy for younger people (25 and younger) to get REALLY caught up in the minutia of it all because they have (understandably) very little personal experience just trying to find others like them and survive in the world. the internet is a blessing and a curse. living in a small conservative town, i likely never would've learned the labels that are comfortable for me; thanks to the internet, i did! but i've also seen how hive minds work and it's insanely sad the division & ignorance it perpetuates
@@arijeanz in my opinion I think that most of the topics being discussed online are lame and irrelevant, people waste time arguing about stupid things while ignoring actual problems and deep subjects that need to be addressed. Also, the amount of stuff that have been talked about over and over again it's tiring, can we please just move on and give attention to something else???
@@arijeanz Now being oppressed is a ‘trend’ and all the dumbasses at my scchool are like ‘im bi but only date men’ ‘im pan…would i date a woman? no…’ All the girls are bi/pan but only date men and are slightly homophobic like girl stfu i know you’re lying 🤥 🙄 Lol
@@charlie8432 yes!!! i wholeheartedly agree and my experience is really similar to yours. I'm from a young queer generation but i spent most of my formative years without being on social media, in a small town, knowing all the other queer people personally and being able to count them on two hands. this made my experience be more about connecting with the few other queer individuals i knew instead of trying to label myself perfectly. i was really uneducated about trans issues and intersectionality and things like that but at least i grew to learn all that with time. me and all the other queer people in my town were very different but we all stuck together and stood up for each other when people said nasty things about us. that was my first experience of being in the lgbt community and it really shaped me
It’s crazy to me how many queer folk don’t know queer history. I’m guilty of not knowing for a very long time, and it wasn’t until I met my partner at age 20 that I even knew any of it. It forever changed my view on the community though, and gave me a deeper respect and understanding of older LGBT+ people that I wouldn’t have had otherwise. It’s SO important to understand where we came from and how far we’ve come, and I wish schools would teach it rather than perpetuate an anti-LGBT+ agenda. Imo everyone should be required to read Stone Butch Blues
I recommend r/LGBTHistory as a starting point, but the thing is that our cultures are not perpetuated or inherited by newer generations because we rarely raise people who are like us. If I ever end up raising somebody, I would teach them, at least the basics, about gay, bi, trans, intersex, ace, aromantic, and polyamorous people, because I want them to understand and respect them, even if they were not born a part of any of these oppressed minority groups.
@CalThePaladin3733 Ungrateful? That's like saying because an older black guy lived through Jim Crow laws, which means I have to let him disrespect me lol. Uhh no.
it’s so interesting how 40 or 50 is seen to be old for queer people but not for cishet people because of the so many factors that mean we don’t see as many older queer people
I'm 42, straight, and a woman in her early twenties at work told me I was old as fuck when she asked me how old I was after finding out I have two adult kids. That said, I'm not as cool as Bella, so there's that.
I loved this ❤️ she was right tho about her time being much harder and now she has to calm others for getting their pronouns wrong. I get the respect but people like her made what we have today, possible
i think that being older and having had it harder doesn't mean that you should be exempt from things like respecting people's pronouns. yeah, people shouldn't attack her and other people for messing up once, but she is gay, she isn't trans, and being misgendered is a thing trans people had to fight against for so long... and still do! and an old lesbian being mad about it doesn't make things better. gay people still have it better that trans people in many cases and having fought for gay people's rights doesn't mean you can't be wrong about stuff that doesn't apply to you. i respect her for being so brave and doing so much when it comes to gay rights, but i don't think we should be okay with people messing up people's pronouns because they "had it rough". like... she had it rough so she thinks that other people are wrong when they ask her to not make things harder for them? sorry if it's chaotic, i just get annoyed with that kind of logic, "i had it rought and i made some things easier for you so you should be thankful and I should be exempt from criticism. otherwise you're just an ungrateful and entitled baby gay" lol
@@lvmln7843 I agree, older people of any orientation and community that are stubborn and reluctant to progress because of what they went through growing up, as if that isn't the point of progress.
yess, i feel like so many of us complain all the time about how difficult it is but if you stop and consider what it was like for the older generations we have it so easyyyy
Love the energy with these two. And for the ones who need to hear it, _if you have a bush that is okay!_ 💖 Maybe it's not ideal for certain positions, and everyone can have their preferences, but it can be worked with. You just need to find the right person for it. 😊
As the proud owner of a bush, I'd say it's courtesy to make way for the important bits if you expect someone to give you oral. Not shaving necessarily but like, trim it a little to avoid mouthfuls of hair? Obviously, you do you though and never change your body in a way you're uncomfortable with!
As a bi guy, I cannot understand how guys can be attracted to gay women. I don't care how pretty they may look, they're not into you, so why even spend the thought energy on it? I can only be attracted to those who I know are attracted to me though, so I suppose from that perspective I have other problems with finding people myself.
Siri seems so sweet and nice. Siri and Bella seem to have two different personalities that complement each other really well. So it was a great video. A friendly pair. Wholesome video.
I love the wisdom of older lesbians I grew up in my parents duplex and our neighbours were/are a lesbian couple and I always loved being around them. They always have at least 2 labs that are like their babies and it was just fun when they would invite us over. They are in their late 60s and their house is just full of really lesbian art and funky stuff. Definitely helped me accept being Bi because I had good role models of queer people growing up.
I was pretty surprised when Bella said her sex horror story was because a woman had pubic hair... I think this reflects an unfair societal standard that women or more femme people are supposed to be hairless? I've struggled a lot with my body hair in the past and have come to love it and let it grow untamed! And my girlfriend adores it. Let's try to promote body hair neutrality. It's not something to be afraid or ashamed of, it's totally natural and can even protect us against STD's (not pubic lice though hehe). If you're going down on someone with an untamed bush, you just need to move it out of the way 🤷♀
Not exactly true, it could be that, but I've met femme people upset at me for having pubic hair, and I'm masculine. Some people just aren't a fan of hair in those areas.
Bella is an amazing role model! I wish I had someone like her in my life growing up to help me accept my sexuality. Every queer person needs a support system like this 🙌🏻
Bella, I appreciate your strength and the struggles you've gone through, we wouldn't be here without you. Thank you from the bottom of my bi trans heart ❤ 🧡💛💚💙💜🤎🖤🤍
Bella reminds me of my aunties. I was blessed to grow up with a boomer lesbian aunt, who has been out since the early 70s, and her gaggle of lifelong friends. I was even at the wedding of two of them as a baby! They've taught me so much about life and relationships, and were a comforting influence while I was coming out and learning to be comfortable in my skin. Go find an older lesbian and give them a hug!
I just love Bella, she is so refreshing and positive 💕 you can tell she has been through alot but is still incredible Suri a little level of confidence, adorable smile
I’m in my late 20’s and have been out for awhile but I’m not an old gay - but god damn, I appreciate and honor our older lesbians so much. The shit you had to endure to just be YOU. I also hated the ‘hey mama’ shit on tiktok, never seen something so fucking cringy lmao 😂
I had an older person who lived in the nursing home i work at. I had so much respect for her and all the stuff she must have gone through with her wife. It was amazing to think about and I wish I could have sat and asked her and her wife some questions about the past. However, it wouldn't have been professional and the resident passed away in 2020.
it's such a shame how little is known about lgbt history despite the fact that so many people who lived it are still alive and not even that old. it's a combination of being silenced and neglected to death, but it's obviously not too late to listen and learn. i strongly recommend the making gay history podcast and reading stone butch blues!! more tips welcome 👀
Bella is a real one, I say this as a straight man. Being reqected by a lesbian is cool, because you just gain a new friend, and there is no negative from that.
What if they don’t want to be your friend? And why can’t the same be said about straight women? Can’t a straight woman reject you without it being cool and you being her friends and nothing negative coming from it?
i don't agree with bella's take when she generalised all of us and said that younger people have it easier now. i get that these videos are american/west - centric but people in some countries have to deal with objectively harsher conditions than she did growing up.
This was an amazing video! I absolutely love Bella! I definitely want to listen to her stories even though I'm a straight dude! She seems like she's seen life!
It’s true. Nowadays when I’m in a room with say, 15 people? I just assume at least 3 or 4 of them will be on some point of LGBTQIA spectrum. I couldn’t imagine growing up in a different time where it isn’t welcomed, expected, anticipated, or accepted as it is now. Like so many before us have…
@@Ri_5475 Honestly, I don't know how that's better. She said the worst sex she ever had was because the other woman wasn't clean shaven. I think that's pretty... hurtful, I guess.
I love Bella. I don't know how to explain it. She's got a strong presence and opinionated but not in a bad way. Also I wonder what she looks like with like a tank top on cause I see her art poking out the sleeve💜
Bella should do one of these videos with a young trans person. It would be interesting to see since she has said in a previous video if she was born during a different time she may have gone down a different road with how she expresses her masculinity.
with all due respect, you can 100% appreciate and understand the history of where queer culture was, and where it is now, and *still* care, correct, be hurt, etc etc w.e, towards pronouns. You are NEVER too old to learn. (unless you literally can't, i.e. something like dementia) If someone is using the wrong pronoun on purpose, deadnaming, w.e it does not matter how old they are. they don't automatically "get a pass".
(im sorry I wrote such a long comment) I agree that more young lgbt people should educate themselves on our history, and I am really grateful for a lot of the things we have now that older gays didn't/ had a harder time with. however, its so frustrating when you try to talk about your struggle with others in the community and people just brush it off because you're younger. lgbt people still get kicked out/ abused/ killed/ threatened/ bullied. good representation is barely starting to appear and there is still lots of pushback. even just unsupportive families raise the risk of suicide soo much higher. when you try to talk about people in those situations (or even more simple things like pronouns) and get told that you couldn't possibly struggle because it used to be worse, it's so invalidating. she isn't trans so she doesn't understand how transphobia feels. her struggle doesn't negate anyone else's. things being better doesn't mean we're done and it's all perfect now. there is a point where younger kids can be nitpicky and uneducated but it's older gays' job to help guide/ educate the younger ones. when cishet people turn their backs on them WE are supposed to help show them that there are people who share their struggles, or at the very least are willing to be there for and help them. I'm almost 20 now so I'm still pretty young but I definitely have a different experience than kids younger than me. that doesn't mean they cant struggle though. someone always has to worse but the 1st person in that line still has issues. it's not a pissing contest. I still remember looking up to this one gay family member and trying to tell them about some experiences that have in all honestly, changed me and my mental health for the rest of my life. all he had to say was that he had it worse and that he's never seen _______ or ______ happen to me. also, that hed take me to a gay bar when I'm 21. since I figured it out when I was 11 or 12, he was "the older gay" that I looked up to and it really fucked me up for him to just brush it off like that. all I needed was reassurance and support from someone in the community. if I had it "so easy" then why were my lgbt friends and I trying to talk each other out of suicide in middle school? why was I shamed and bullied? why did my parents make me swear on the bible and force me into the church? why did I try and force myself to act straight for years in fear of getting ostracized/ bullied worse? Why did I fear being kicked out, like some people I know were? why are gay bars still set on fire, and trans people especially (kids included) still being killed? wlw sexualized and assaulted? yes, general public opinion in a few countries has improved a lot, but these things STILL HAPPEN. I was alive when a lot of these protections were made (and some, taken away). I was 13/14 when gay marriage was legalized, aka a cognizant person. even shit like misgendering people and anti-gay laws in schools is invalidating and hurting lgbt kids. people make mistakes and say the wrong pronouns. people are uneducated. I don't think genuine mistakes should be shamed, and it is annoying when people focus on small issues. still, invalidating younger people's experiences as a whole is wrong and helping nobody. appreciating what we have doesn't mean negating all struggles that young lgbt people still face.
Omg I love Bella’s advice and honestly I understand what she’s saying about the younger community kinda having it easier but people are still like that where you and them have to take and throw a hit at least once bc everyone is so judgmental about it still
People who "have pronouns"* were taking and giving punches and being chased right along with Bella. Gender diversity is not a new or young thing! Some of the language has evolved, and we gotta make sure we're kind to people who aren't on the cutting edge of that. Respecting pronouns is work we all gotta do, at any age or gender. *Trans and other gender diverse people
You can clearly see that Bella has lived a life and taken the hits and grown in confidence. And Suri definitely has a different vibe of confidence.
Everyone reading this be blessed forever i hope you have a wonderful day and your dreams come true and you're healthy and wealthy!🧿🍀🧘🙏🏼💸🧜🏼🌈🥝
Folk that lived and fought through the 70s 80s and 90s know alll about difficult times.
@@rhiannonsubliminals thank you , you too!
duh
yh u. can
“all the traumas, it molds who you are, but it means nothing. the whole point is to be true to your heart” wow I didnt expect to fucking cry
It was sooo well said 🥺
SAME THIS HIT ME ALOT
Right? That's kickass advice. ❤
Anything with Bella is going to be golden. She's just so upfront and refreshing.
I love Bella!
Yess
I ❤️ Bella. She is so fine 😍🥰
Shes best!! 😍
I love Bella she’s the best
Loved what she said about how young queer people should listen to older queer people's stories more! Also the "hey momma"... absolutely took my breath away.
Everyone reading this be blessed forever i hope you have a wonderful day and your dreams come true and you're healthy and wealthy!🧿🍀🧘🙏🏼💸🧜🏼🌈🥝
Yep. Big time.
LMAOOOOO HEY MAMA
Yup
To all our “old” lesbians out there, thank you from the bottom of my heart for being the one group of people who helped my friends & their friends back during the AIDS Epidemic (late 1980s/early 1990s) when no one else would!!! I would say 95% of “young” LGBTQ people have no idea that during the peak of the AIDS Epidemic, nurses and doctors REFUSED to provide healthcare for gay men dying of AIDS…but our amazing lesbians stepped up and gave them the love and attention they needed while some of them recovered, but more importantly when most of them died. My appearance belies my actual age, but being in my 50s, I remember how scary it was back then, and how straight ppl would spread lies about us gay men and I’m just thankful the internet wouldn’t really become popular for another decade ‘cause misinformation spreads like wildfire on here.
These “old” lesbians will always be the ultimate queens to me ‘cause they’re just cut from a special cloth…they’ll always have the utmost respect from this “old” gay! ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜 Lotsa love and aloha from Honolulu! 😄🤙🏽❤️🌈😓
Thank you for sharing your story! I don't know a lot of older queer people, but I'm grateful for all of you who speak online. It means so much to me as a baby queer, to be able to hear from people like me in different stages of life
@@snem9381 You’re very welcome. So much has happened in my lifetime as a gay man, running the gamut from being rαped the first time I had (anal) sex to getting to compete at the Gay Games (had no idea so many gay men play sports!), from being an escort to pay for my tuition while I was in my doctoral program to meeting some of the best & most loyal friends anyone could ask for in this world. Take all of it in ‘cause it all shapes who we are, and strife only holds us back if YOU allow it to do so…YOU always have the option to to use strife to elevate yourself.
Love & aloha from Kaimukī, Hawaiʻi! 😄🤙🏽❤️🌈☀️
Well said. Much love to our ladies.
I review weed products on my TH-cam channel as my job, coulda been a dentist or something but that ain’t lit lmaooo
@@SevenHunnid how did you know stoners were reading this thread 👁👄👁
Bella better say hey mamma in the club when she sees her... periodt
Everyone reading this be blessed forever i hope you have a wonderful day and your dreams come true and you're healthy and wealthy!🧿🍀🧘🙏🏼💸🧜🏼🌈🥝
Bella seems like a restless spirit that just needs peace, I feel like she's been fighting the fight for so long. I truly hope she gets the easy end of things from now on
Truly love the sentiment of this comment, but why does it read like a eulogy lmao
@@ElizabethAngle Please write me a eulogy 'cause your comment killed me lol x.x
I'm trans and I absolutely agree with that whole: don't give older queer people shit for missing a pronoun or not using the most modern language, for fuck's sake. A lot of young trans people are so used to malicious deadnaming and misgendering that they'll jump at the throat of people who are very clearly allies.
As another trans person, preach. I personally don’t even care if someone misses my pronouns, the most important thing is simply respect.
@@crayonzii Exactly that. I never push my pronouns with people who refer to me with love/respect. That's all I'm looking for!
As an enby I totally agree. As long as someone is trying, I'm fine.
nah this is so real tho. i get misgendered all the time, but i know it's not malicious. the community i have around me in school is so supporting that sometimes i even feel comfortable enough to forget i'm trans for a few minutes and just enjoy being a teenager.
No literally, like as long as there’s no malicious intent it’s fine.
as a 16 year old lesbian i love hearing about older lesbians stories and what they went through
sameee
Same
I feel compelled to answer "same" here too... But yeah, I grew up mostly without internalised homophobia, so that when I did get my first crush last year I wasn't in denial. I always had the "My sexuality? We'll see." mentality. And eventhough I'm asexual and (so) never had crushes on TV characters like people seem to have, I just always knew I was gay? Growing up I wanted short hair and I wore t-shirts, jeans and never pink.
So yeah I guess I just wanna thank our predecessors who prepared the world for us :)
If there were more 'older' lesbians as TH-camrs, I feel like they could go viral with all the love, hope, and encouragement they could give to everyone including those who've lost or still lose families, friends, and communities for whatever reason. Plus, it would help remind people that even though the Trans movement is going through these issues now, 40-50 years later, we might just have a more accepting society as long as we continue being true to ourselves and supporting those who need it.
Right off the bat her first point really made me see stuff. We always talk about history of repressed minority groups but one that we don't talk about too much is the history of LGBTQ groups. We are really focused on the present, WHICH IS GREAT, but I think we should also put some time to look at what people back in the day had to go through. That almost means being considerate for those struggles and knowledgeable about them
i also think the lgbt community is really divided now, in my experience. we are hyper focused on labeling and boxing. most of the accounts I've seen or heard of older lgbt people give off an air of stronger unity within the community.
@@arijeanz it is really frustrating to see tbh. i understand the value of labels/words to truly understand your own and others' experiences... and at the same time, focusing on that too much can really take away from the fact that being lgbtqia+/queer is still not widely accepted let alone protected. i grew up during the time that the internet got real big on Discourse(tm) and i found that it's really easy for younger people (25 and younger) to get REALLY caught up in the minutia of it all because they have (understandably) very little personal experience just trying to find others like them and survive in the world. the internet is a blessing and a curse. living in a small conservative town, i likely never would've learned the labels that are comfortable for me; thanks to the internet, i did! but i've also seen how hive minds work and it's insanely sad the division & ignorance it perpetuates
@@arijeanz in my opinion I think that most of the topics being discussed online are lame and irrelevant, people waste time arguing about stupid things while ignoring actual problems and deep subjects that need to be addressed.
Also, the amount of stuff that have been talked about over and over again it's tiring, can we please just move on and give attention to something else???
@@arijeanz Now being oppressed is a ‘trend’ and all the dumbasses at my scchool are like ‘im bi but only date men’ ‘im pan…would i date a woman? no…’ All the girls are bi/pan but only date men and are slightly homophobic like girl stfu i know you’re lying 🤥 🙄 Lol
@@charlie8432 yes!!! i wholeheartedly agree and my experience is really similar to yours. I'm from a young queer generation but i spent most of my formative years without being on social media, in a small town, knowing all the other queer people personally and being able to count them on two hands. this made my experience be more about connecting with the few other queer individuals i knew instead of trying to label myself perfectly. i was really uneducated about trans issues and intersectionality and things like that but at least i grew to learn all that with time. me and all the other queer people in my town were very different but we all stuck together and stood up for each other when people said nasty things about us. that was my first experience of being in the lgbt community and it really shaped me
I love Bella. To be honest I only ever watch the videos she's in lol. Please have her more often!
she needs her own show, or a podcast, idk which she'd rather do but i'd love to see more of her
Yeah I always watch the videos with her in too. I just like her! lol
Bella's energy is amazing.
Agreed
As a young lesbian who is exclusively friends with older lesbians, Bella is exactly who I want to hang out with.
Same except I'm hetero.
I’m a 22 year old gay man but Bella just seems so cool and open i’d love to hang with her
It’s crazy to me how many queer folk don’t know queer history. I’m guilty of not knowing for a very long time, and it wasn’t until I met my partner at age 20 that I even knew any of it. It forever changed my view on the community though, and gave me a deeper respect and understanding of older LGBT+ people that I wouldn’t have had otherwise. It’s SO important to understand where we came from and how far we’ve come, and I wish schools would teach it rather than perpetuate an anti-LGBT+ agenda. Imo everyone should be required to read Stone Butch Blues
this!!!!
I would also like to promote jessica kellgren-fozard's Queer History 101 shorts!
do you maybe have a recommendation on where i could read online about the history? Or should i just simply look it up on Google?
I recommend r/LGBTHistory as a starting point, but the thing is that our cultures are not perpetuated or inherited by newer generations because we rarely raise people who are like us.
If I ever end up raising somebody, I would teach them, at least the basics, about gay, bi, trans, intersex, ace, aromantic, and polyamorous people, because I want them to understand and respect them, even if they were not born a part of any of these oppressed minority groups.
@@renadrv7218 stone butch blues is online for free! leslie feinberg wanted everyone to have access to it
I could listen to them both talk for hours their personalities are so authentic
I am on my hands and knees begging y’all to release an extended cut of this video
Bella made such a point about taking beatings for the gay community. Give them time to catch up.
we expect cis and straight people to respect our pronouns so no queer people don’t get “time to catch up”. they’ve had nothing but time
@@hannahmcdonald4561 just say you're ungrateful and move on
@CalThePaladin3733 Ungrateful? That's like saying because an older black guy lived through Jim Crow laws, which means I have to let him disrespect me lol. Uhh no.
it’s so interesting how 40 or 50 is seen to be old for queer people but not for cishet people because of the so many factors that mean we don’t see as many older queer people
I'm 42, straight, and a woman in her early twenties at work told me I was old as fuck when she asked me how old I was after finding out I have two adult kids. That said, I'm not as cool as Bella, so there's that.
when bella told her she was doing a great job i instantly cried. such kind souls.
I loved this ❤️ she was right tho about her time being much harder and now she has to calm others for getting their pronouns wrong. I get the respect but people like her made what we have today, possible
Not even LGBT, but MAD respect at what she went through regardless
i think that being older and having had it harder doesn't mean that you should be exempt from things like respecting people's pronouns. yeah, people shouldn't attack her and other people for messing up once, but she is gay, she isn't trans, and being misgendered is a thing trans people had to fight against for so long... and still do! and an old lesbian being mad about it doesn't make things better.
gay people still have it better that trans people in many cases and having fought for gay people's rights doesn't mean you can't be wrong about stuff that doesn't apply to you. i respect her for being so brave and doing so much when it comes to gay rights, but i don't think we should be okay with people messing up people's pronouns because they "had it rough". like... she had it rough so she thinks that other people are wrong when they ask her to not make things harder for them?
sorry if it's chaotic, i just get annoyed with that kind of logic, "i had it rought and i made some things easier for you so you should be thankful and I should be exempt from criticism. otherwise you're just an ungrateful and entitled baby gay" lol
@@lvmln7843 I agree, older people of any orientation and community that are stubborn and reluctant to progress because of what they went through growing up, as if that isn't the point of progress.
yess, i feel like so many of us complain all the time about how difficult it is but if you stop and consider what it was like for the older generations we have it so easyyyy
@@lvmln7843 exactly. trans people existed during that time as well, there's no excuse.
I loved their vibe and the way their conversation flowed, very well done.
It's always going to be good when Bella is in the video.
Love the energy with these two. And for the ones who need to hear it, _if you have a bush that is okay!_ 💖
Maybe it's not ideal for certain positions, and everyone can have their preferences, but it can be worked with.
You just need to find the right person for it. 😊
Yes!! We don't need to shame folks for their grooming styles!
I was literally scrolling for this comment. I love Bella but I was definitely upset when bush-shaming came in 😔
As the proud owner of a bush, I'd say it's courtesy to make way for the important bits if you expect someone to give you oral. Not shaving necessarily but like, trim it a little to avoid mouthfuls of hair?
Obviously, you do you though and never change your body in a way you're uncomfortable with!
@@MurasakiTsukkiNobody likes a mouthful of hair 💀
@@char1211the hair doesn’t grow where the mouth goes. You’re supposed to spread it open and make a seal with your mouth in the actual genitals.
the piece of advice Bella gave hit me so quick and made me cry sm bc it resonated with me faster than i could realize
As a bi guy, I cannot understand how guys can be attracted to gay women. I don't care how pretty they may look, they're not into you, so why even spend the thought energy on it? I can only be attracted to those who I know are attracted to me though, so I suppose from that perspective I have other problems with finding people myself.
they see it as a ‘challenge’ or something they can fix lol
Siri seems so sweet and nice. Siri and Bella seem to have two different personalities that complement each other really well. So it was a great video. A friendly pair. Wholesome video.
I love the wisdom of older lesbians I grew up in my parents duplex and our neighbours were/are a lesbian couple and I always loved being around them. They always have at least 2 labs that are like their babies and it was just fun when they would invite us over. They are in their late 60s and their house is just full of really lesbian art and funky stuff. Definitely helped me accept being Bi because I had good role models of queer people growing up.
I don’t know that I’ve ever resonated with someone’s queer experience more than Bella! I felt their power!!
I was pretty surprised when Bella said her sex horror story was because a woman had pubic hair... I think this reflects an unfair societal standard that women or more femme people are supposed to be hairless? I've struggled a lot with my body hair in the past and have come to love it and let it grow untamed! And my girlfriend adores it. Let's try to promote body hair neutrality. It's not something to be afraid or ashamed of, it's totally natural and can even protect us against STD's (not pubic lice though hehe). If you're going down on someone with an untamed bush, you just need to move it out of the way 🤷♀
Was scrolling for this comment 💜
Thank you for saying that
Not exactly true, it could be that, but I've met femme people upset at me for having pubic hair, and I'm masculine. Some people just aren't a fan of hair in those areas.
I don’t think she was trying to say she expects everyone to be hairless just that it was a lot more than she was expecting lol
yeah that part threw me off too, but the rest of the vid was great :)
Suri: I would be intimidated
Bella: good
Absolutely epic masterclass
Suri: I *won't* be intimidated
(is what she actually said)
Bella is an amazing role model! I wish I had someone like her in my life growing up to help me accept my sexuality. Every queer person needs a support system like this 🙌🏻
I just love Bella's vibe so much. Something bout her just keeps you wanting to hear more of her talks
This was extremely wholesome.
I’ve seen Bella in other episodes of The Cut and I just love her personality. She needs her own show/channel!
That was so cute...I love those intergenerational conversations...someone should just start a queer mentorship program to keep this going...
They have.
The older lady makes me think of Jeff Goldbloom if he was a she and with her confident attitude.
Oh this was great. I love them & the wisdom Bella imparted at the end 🥺
Bella, I appreciate your strength and the struggles you've gone through, we wouldn't be here without you. Thank you from the bottom of my bi trans heart ❤ 🧡💛💚💙💜🤎🖤🤍
I am obsessed with Bella I love her
Bella is the best! So humble, kind, respectful, caring, smart, wise and funny. So rare to see a person like that.
Ok, I think Bella is beautiful. She's like a lovely Steve Buscemi.
Are you implying Steve Buscemi isn’t already lovely?
I was thinking Jeff Goldblum, and I am here for it.
@@EvilResident777 NGL, I really, really do think he's adorable.
What a hilarious comment 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Bella reminds me of my aunties. I was blessed to grow up with a boomer lesbian aunt, who has been out since the early 70s, and her gaggle of lifelong friends. I was even at the wedding of two of them as a baby! They've taught me so much about life and relationships, and were a comforting influence while I was coming out and learning to be comfortable in my skin. Go find an older lesbian and give them a hug!
I love the inclusion of the “Hey Mamas,” those TikToks are so funny.
I just love Bella, she is so refreshing and positive 💕 you can tell she has been through alot but is still incredible
Suri a little level of confidence, adorable smile
I’m in my late 20’s and have been out for awhile but I’m not an old gay - but god damn, I appreciate and honor our older lesbians so much. The shit you had to endure to just be YOU.
I also hated the ‘hey mama’ shit on tiktok, never seen something so fucking cringy lmao 😂
I had an older person who lived in the nursing home i work at. I had so much respect for her and all the stuff she must have gone through with her wife. It was amazing to think about and I wish I could have sat and asked her and her wife some questions about the past. However, it wouldn't have been professional and the resident passed away in 2020.
Love this duo! It’s great to see more queer content, especially with Bella. She’s a hoot
it's such a shame how little is known about lgbt history despite the fact that so many people who lived it are still alive and not even that old. it's a combination of being silenced and neglected to death, but it's obviously not too late to listen and learn. i strongly recommend the making gay history podcast and reading stone butch blues!! more tips welcome 👀
I guess it's obvious, but the series POSE is a really good LGBT history class.
@@vokusa yessss one of my favorites
So sweet and powerful and empowering at the same time. Great dialogue and flow between them. Thanks!
That‘s literally the best, most entertaining and validating youtube video I‘ve ever seen
I would have killed to have had an older lesbian role model in my life growing up.
I love Bella. I about died during the pop up bush comment lmao
I love this. Im so thankful to see these two women, and see their dynamic! So fun
Bella is a real one, I say this as a straight man. Being reqected by a lesbian is cool, because you just gain a new friend, and there is no negative from that.
What if they don’t want to be your friend? And why can’t the same be said about straight women? Can’t a straight woman reject you without it being cool and you being her friends and nothing negative coming from it?
@@nataliaalfonso2662 yeah, nothing wrong with that
Hate is a strong word.
'What bothers me' is way better.
Bella is great and I love her style.
Its always a good vid when there's Bella in it
i love the dynamic between them what a sweet way to bring queer people of different generations together😭
There is something so attractive about Bella idk why. She's probably 20 years older than me but she could get it
I have so much respect and love for Bella! I truly enjoy all of her appearances!
I love every video Bella is in. They are such a great person! 😍👏👏👏
OMG I LOVE THIS! More of this please. Also maybe with some asexual people?! (I’m ace so I would love to see that)
yes me too!
The ‘and if I see you in a club I’ll say hi to you m’ is so sweet!😌
Bella never fails to make me smile
i don't agree with bella's take when she generalised all of us and said that younger people have it easier now. i get that these videos are american/west - centric but people in some countries have to deal with objectively harsher conditions than she did growing up.
She's talking about her experience in America, not about other countries
This was an amazing video! I absolutely love Bella! I definitely want to listen to her stories even though I'm a straight dude! She seems like she's seen life!
I love this. As a gay man I love my lesbians cousins. They’re the soundest thing.
It’s true. Nowadays when I’m in a room with say, 15 people? I just assume at least 3 or 4 of them will be on some point of LGBTQIA spectrum. I couldn’t imagine growing up in a different time where it isn’t welcomed, expected, anticipated, or accepted as it is now. Like so many before us have…
The “Heyy momma😉😃heyyy🤨😏 momma👉🏼😌😂” killed me
5:30 cant help it but think about Beast Boy here 😆😆✨️💚💚🙌
Beautiful interaction between these two women and important thing what bella said. I would love to talk and learn from her…
Love Suri's soft energy 😍😍😍
I've been WAITING for Bella to get to share more stories
Both of them have absolute peak sapphic energy
Bella's piece of advice hit me right in the chest
I love Bella's energy
"All the tramas that you go through, it molds who you are, but it means nothing" - Amazing description
Lesbians judging women for their body hair kinda breaks my heart, ngl
I don't think they were judging just laughing about it together
@@Ri_5475 Honestly, I don't know how that's better. She said the worst sex she ever had was because the other woman wasn't clean shaven. I think that's pretty... hurtful, I guess.
@@mrlnxf8455 true
@@mrlnxf8455 it's gross lol. When your mouth is stuffed full of pubes, it's kind of a turn off. Just the truth.
Well when it's exessive it really isn't practical
0:05 god i love her😂😂😂😂
I love Bella. I don't know how to explain it. She's got a strong presence and opinionated but not in a bad way. Also I wonder what she looks like with like a tank top on cause I see her art poking out the sleeve💜
Cut comes out with the most creative ideas .. so inspiring for us creators 🔥💯
These two were really hit it up. There is a chemistry between them
I knew someone that would say women of wisdom instead of old. It's something that I always was a great phrase.
I like what she said about pronouns. Like chill, getting punched in the face is the real violence.
Bella is awesome, hope we get to see more of her.
some of these comments DO NOT pass the vibe check! if you don’t like gay people why are you even watching this >:(
Bella politely trying to tell younger gay folks that they've run out of problems so now they're just making them 🥶
Bella should do one of these videos with a young trans person. It would be interesting to see since she has said in a previous video if she was born during a different time she may have gone down a different road with how she expresses her masculinity.
with all due respect, you can 100% appreciate and understand the history of where queer culture was, and where it is now, and *still* care, correct, be hurt, etc etc w.e, towards pronouns. You are NEVER too old to learn. (unless you literally can't, i.e. something like dementia)
If someone is using the wrong pronoun on purpose, deadnaming, w.e it does not matter how old they are. they don't automatically "get a pass".
I love that Bella uses her hands to talk idk it’s just really livings the conversation
I love when I have these moments when I remember why I am queer. Like when Bella said, "hey mama".
As a gay man, I’m obsessed with Bella!! She is truly a gay elder, no pun intended, that we should honor! I love her!! ❤❤❤
1:50 THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I love bella so much, like I want to hang out with her just learn about all of her lesbian knowledge ❤
(im sorry I wrote such a long comment) I agree that more young lgbt people should educate themselves on our history, and I am really grateful for a lot of the things we have now that older gays didn't/ had a harder time with. however, its so frustrating when you try to talk about your struggle with others in the community and people just brush it off because you're younger. lgbt people still get kicked out/ abused/ killed/ threatened/ bullied. good representation is barely starting to appear and there is still lots of pushback. even just unsupportive families raise the risk of suicide soo much higher. when you try to talk about people in those situations (or even more simple things like pronouns) and get told that you couldn't possibly struggle because it used to be worse, it's so invalidating. she isn't trans so she doesn't understand how transphobia feels. her struggle doesn't negate anyone else's. things being better doesn't mean we're done and it's all perfect now.
there is a point where younger kids can be nitpicky and uneducated but it's older gays' job to help guide/ educate the younger ones. when cishet people turn their backs on them WE are supposed to help show them that there are people who share their struggles, or at the very least are willing to be there for and help them. I'm almost 20 now so I'm still pretty young but I definitely have a different experience than kids younger than me. that doesn't mean they cant struggle though. someone always has to worse but the 1st person in that line still has issues. it's not a pissing contest.
I still remember looking up to this one gay family member and trying to tell them about some experiences that have in all honestly, changed me and my mental health for the rest of my life. all he had to say was that he had it worse and that he's never seen _______ or ______ happen to me. also, that hed take me to a gay bar when I'm 21. since I figured it out when I was 11 or 12, he was "the older gay" that I looked up to and it really fucked me up for him to just brush it off like that. all I needed was reassurance and support from someone in the community. if I had it "so easy" then why were my lgbt friends and I trying to talk each other out of suicide in middle school? why was I shamed and bullied? why did my parents make me swear on the bible and force me into the church? why did I try and force myself to act straight for years in fear of getting ostracized/ bullied worse? Why did I fear being kicked out, like some people I know were? why are gay bars still set on fire, and trans people especially (kids included) still being killed? wlw sexualized and assaulted?
yes, general public opinion in a few countries has improved a lot, but these things STILL HAPPEN. I was alive when a lot of these protections were made (and some, taken away). I was 13/14 when gay marriage was legalized, aka a cognizant person. even shit like misgendering people and anti-gay laws in schools is invalidating and hurting lgbt kids. people make mistakes and say the wrong pronouns. people are uneducated. I don't think genuine mistakes should be shamed, and it is annoying when people focus on small issues. still, invalidating younger people's experiences as a whole is wrong and helping nobody.
appreciating what we have doesn't mean negating all struggles that young lgbt people still face.
I think you took what she said to heart and immediately got offended
Bella Probably would’ve been trans if she was born later; she said that herself
GIVE BELLA HER OWN SHOW🥺😭
These convos are invaluable!
I love Bella! I was cracking up so hard when she was talking about the bush story 😂
Omg I love Bella’s advice and honestly I understand what she’s saying about the younger community kinda having it easier but people are still like that where you and them have to take and throw a hit at least once bc everyone is so judgmental about it still
People who "have pronouns"* were taking and giving punches and being chased right along with Bella. Gender diversity is not a new or young thing! Some of the language has evolved, and we gotta make sure we're kind to people who aren't on the cutting edge of that. Respecting pronouns is work we all gotta do, at any age or gender.
*Trans and other gender diverse people
Just the comment that I was looking for!
Well said!
Thank you
yeah but what bella was saying was its not such a big deal if someone slips up so dont give her shit if she slips us, or atleast thats what i think
Agreed, trans people also had to fight for themselves, she's not special
I've always liked Bella in these videos, she's one of my faves.