Lane Regulators - Pt. 2-3 Coil Compression Springs v Belleville Spring Washers.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ก.ค. 2024
- This video aims to give a comparison of both the Plus + Positives & Minus - Negatives of Coil Compression Springs v Belleville Spring Washers within their role in the Regulation of the modern PCP Airgun.
Having designed & manufactured both mass produced & one off special purpose regulators as part of my Product Design job on & off for near 20 years, I can say that both Coil Compression Spring v Belleville Spring Washer have their part to play in the Regulation of your PCP Airgun, Both have Plus + Positives & Minus - Negatives.
I hope that this video doesn't waffle on to much but helps you to understand more the differences between them both.
I also hope that if you have a lathe or access to a lathe & are planning to manufacture your own regulator that the information within this video is of some help. This also goes for you if you are suffering regulator issues upon a production rifle & that this information may help you track down the fault & correct it more easily.
In Summary:
Coil Compression Springs.
Positives + Very Durable & Reliable, Often Easily Trackable Pressure Output & Self Adjustment by the user 'i.e. Adjustment isn't fiddly with micro scopic movements of the adjuster', Due to their Round Section I have never seen any wear / scrapping caused on the inside of regulator body by the Spring, Due to their Power / Pressure to Piston Travel Ratio - The pressure output is not ever really affected by years of use, Easy to Service & Maintain.
Negatives - You can find yourself very limited in design by both the physical size & compression strengths of the conventional coil spring due to manufacturing constraints & so regulators are slightly larger. Also you cannot reach such high regulation pressures with the Coil Compression Springs as you can the Belleville Spring Washers.
Belleville Spring Washers.
Positives + You are not so limited in the size, shape & design of your regulator as you are with a Coil Compression Spring. The physical size can vary enormously & they are idea for use in Very Small Regulator. The Belleville Spring Washers can be selected & stacked in order to give much high Pressure output than can be reached with a conventional Coil Spring.
Negatives -
Often more tricky to adjust & estimate the pressure output unless you have a test reg set up to use, as great pressure variation may take place over a very small adjustment of the Pressure Adjuster Screw (Nut) etc. Can sometimes be a little temperamental on pressure output over time due to wear & tare & also if not kept under some compression force if all air is let out the air reservoir. Can be harder to service & maintain, depending upon the design.
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You are really out there to help people.
That's amazing and I seriously appreciate your mentality.
You're a very good man, thanks.
Having had a bsa R10 reg fail several times & now my old bsa hornet one acting up i can now see why you prefer the coil spring design, thanks Robert.
Also something to think about with Belleville washers is as the compress they expand so if the tube i.d.is not large enough the washers will bind on the tube. Same for the i.d. If the i.d. of the rod isn't small enough the washers will bind on that too.
Pat
Thank you SO much for taking the time to put up this great information. I have been researching building my own regulator for some time now and have spent the last couple of nights viewing your videos. I agree with your views on using coil spring over belliville washers. Could you please either put up a video on the specification of the coil spring or could you please let me know of a supplier of the springs. I would also like to know how to calculate the specification of the spring force.
Yes: The Belvilles can though up many issues in comparison to a conventional spring, which is why we stick to the spring were ever we can.
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Thank You - For your kind comment :-) I am just putting up a video that I should have made at the same time explaining & demonstrating why you don't see Gas Filled / Gas Spring Regulators at all.
Mr. Lane, do you still manufacture Regulators? I've visited your eBay Store in Search of a Regulator for a Brocock Concept, to no avail. Great that someone knowledgable like you explains these often misunderstood mechanical pieces!
the hw100 uses the Belvilles but can it be converted to use a spring ??
hola soy de argentina he fabricado un regulador pero me falta la medida del resorte por lo que veo es bastante grueso quiero que mi valvula trabaje en 100 bares me podrias pasar una medida aproximada del resorte, saludos.
Hi , I have 10 spring washers in my regulator , with a pattern 1 facing away the next 8 are facing each other and the last 1 facing away. You said about if you change the pattern the psi will change, what are the patterns to 900-1000psi as mine is at 850
I cannot answer that as it all varies with the size of the piston head, shaft, size of Bellevilles and thickness of them etc. etc. You configuration sounds very odd. Normally they are ()()() (())(()) ((())) (((())))
@@robertlanedesign Hola amigos de Lane reguladores les felicitó por tan buen proyecto, por favor si me pueden ayudar con las medidas de los resortes, yo me hice un rifle pero no tiene regulador
Soy del país de Ecuador un abrazo a todos y que Dios los bendiga
Hello, do you still make springs?
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